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>actual 2d animation
>not rigged shit
>no beanmouth
holy based, finally a good cartoon
>A show by a tiny ass company that has probably 10x less budget then any of the Disney/CN/Nick shows looks far better animated then anything out now with hand drawn animation and not using Toonboom
This is just embarrassing at this point, it's showing how the power cabal is holding the medium back
you guys are so easily impressed by anything that has the "2D "traditional" animation made by conservatives" marketing label slapped on it, aren't you? animation quality doesn't even look all that outstanding, all things considered.
it even looks like something that would've been easily forgotten about had it premiered in the 90's or the '00s, much like a lot of similar shows present in those eras.
>it even looks like something that would've been easily forgotten about had it premiered in the 90's or the '00s
It’s already better than most cartoons today then
>It’s already better than most cartoons today then
if you're willing to lower the bar even more then it currently is, I guess.
>Your just upset because your shitty owl show, and shitty ghost show is about to get dethroned.
lol sure thing
>Stage 1 denial
Your just upset because your shitty owl show, and shitty ghost show is about to get dethroned.
enjoy the 5 stages of grief arsehole.
No, I'm stating an obvious.
The big corporations are having shows with 150 million dollar budget and they only use insanely limited Toonboom puppet rigging. There's shows I've liked this decade that were clear Toonboom. This looks like actual hand drawn.
Is it better then the beautiful cel animated shows of the 90s? No, but that had huge money behind it and this is the smallest as frick company doing this. It's giving me Veggietales vibes in that they are so discontent with modern kids entertainment they are making their own and it's actually having more effort put in then the major players.
>There's shows I've liked this decade that were clear Toonboom. This looks like actual hand drawn.
This is clearly digital animation anon, come on
"Hand drawn" means drawn with the hand and not puppet rigged. It does not mean paper and pencil since exactly zero companies do that now
>exactly zero companies do that now
Anon, please
still has to be scanned into the computer and traced.
Anon was talking about Cel animation.
>It does not mean paper and pencil since exactly zero companies do that now
Wasn't talking about inking, I was talking about Cel
Oh no I wasn't talking about you, I was replying to the other anon saying there are no animations drawn on paper today
Owl House uses Toonboom and photoshop
I think this is for coloring and backgrounds.
Yep, just look at the job title.
Most likely they use it for compositing as well.
and even then that's implying that just because something is hand-drawn means it's automatically better, when obviously fricking Family Guy and a whole quantity of shitty cartoons from past eras were also hand-drawn yet their animation always almost looks stiff and robotic as any low-tier boom/flash cartoon.
Storyboards are not animation
That's not a storyboard, anon...
Yeah, but apparently they trace storyboards for most of their keyframes so anon's not too far off.
I don't watch Amphibia but as far as I know that show has layout artists.
If it does, it's most like probably BG layout which is pretty common for the average TV production pipeline.
>The big corporations are having shows with 150 million dollar budget and they only use insanely limited Toonboom puppet rigging. There's shows I've liked this decade that were clear Toonboom. This looks like actual hand drawn.
ironically much of the Toonboom stuff I've observed does far more ambitious things in regards to character and fx animation, and few times even camerawork, than anything this teaser has shown so far. Even fricking Canadian cartoons tend to be more ballsy these days.
>No, but that had huge money behind it and this is the smallest as frick company doing this.
if this is what they're spending that'huge budget' on then no wonder the tides have largely changed throughout the last decade-and-a-half. If it was another Prince Valiant adaptation or something of the sort, then I could at least understand.
>wishful thinking
>"2D "traditional" animation made by conservatives"
back to /leftypol/ for you, moron
I'm not even aligned to either side, I'm just simply baffled by the praise it was getting early on is all.
>Hamleton reaction image
Go back to your dead lore show general
>Hamleton
Didn't even know where it came from before you've brought it up lol
Are you going to respond to every reply to tour post like a homosexual, anon?
You are just as bad as Steamboat Bill from Kiwi Farms
Who?
The animation quality looks better than adventure time tbh.
It'll probably be shite though.
>Because it doesn't have my views, it must be le evil rite!!!
Shut up. Just shut up. There is a such thing as centrism.
actual show would probably be rigged to save money, or secure only a few episodes because it's too expensive, or just outright cancelled
Ben Shapiro has an axe to grind with disney and is going to make sure the content his studio puts out can compete with the big boys right out of the gate.
While I'm all for hating Disney (Bluey isn't even theirs), pushing a show as a political mouthpiece for your radical views isn't doing him any favors in my eyes.
I can only hope the show ends up good despite this. I need more wholesome animation in my life, and I'd rather it not all come from Japan.
I think people are taking the intent for making it way too seriously without considering what it actually has
Mister Rogers was created for the same exact reason, a disliking for what animation for children existed at the time
America was radically different in the 1960s. It's incomparable to modern times. It's not unreasonable to believe everyone has a political agenda now, especially since they all now have platforms to share it with some and force it onto others.
They had their political agendas too, just more discrete. Mr Rogers was heavily christian
The point is they might not put that in the show specifically, since it has a very specific purpose
>since it has a very specific purpose
Brainwashing kids to become right-leaning.
>it has a very specific purpose
that purpose is right-wing propaganda because if it's "politics in kids media is bad", then kids can just watch braindead pajeet shit on youtube
That's probably because ideology is more assumed now since social media gives us more access to people than we had before. Surprise surprise, people feel certain ways about things and also surprise; people understand media influence is a thing. People say "agenda" and "social engineering" now because there's been such a slide from traditionalism to liberalism in media when progressivism has always been ingrained in media culture and it became more apparent that creative control let people express their views and show issues that mean something to them. Before it was exec driven and focus group tested to the sensibilities of the more conservative types. Ironically the "free speech" option is the one where "agenda" is more assumed.
Hey, remember when a couple of years ago the right was memeing about "activist judges"? What happened to that phrase? What did it mean?
Just gonna say that returning unenumerated privileges to States and limiting undelegated powers of bureaucracies is not activism.
How so? I'm a states rights activist.
>Inventing a right to abortion in the constituion out of thin air
>Activism
>Interpreting the law according to the constitution as stated in your job description
>Not Activism
The constitution was invented and so were all of our laws. "Activist" is a contemporary loaded term that further loses meaning with decades of Roe v Wade and "pro-life activism" being a real and accepted concept.
please, remember comicsgate? these kinds of guys say they're tired of politics in media but then create propaganda themselves
>radical
Benny boy’s views are pretty normie conservative all things considered
Looks cute honestly. Reminds me of Bluey.
'cept this time they named it after the REAL main character, the dad.
By the Daily Wire? This seems like a folly.
you can read what they have to say about it here
https://www.cartoonbrew.com/streaming/daily-wire-streaming-chip-chilla-teaser-218442.html
>We’re creating kids’ entertainment parents can trust, with a $100 million investment into shows that help young minds flourish. No divisive narratives. No insidious ideologies. Just safe, fun programming the whole family will love. Hop on in.
>Why does it matter? It matters because kids go to school for 40 hours a week and then they engage in pop culture for 40 more hours every week. That means for 80 hours of a child’s week, you are turning them over to the left. And good parents might spend 15 minutes a day in meaningful conversation with their kids. A great parent might take their kid to church for one hour, or two hours, or three hours a week. The other 80, they’re watching Disney, they’re online, they’re in public schools.
>We have to challenge the “left” every single place that it lives. You have to help us. You can wait and subscribe when the content is there. I would ask you to subscribe today at Daily Wire+ and help us actually bring this content to life.
>comments seething about muh natzees
>"No divisive narratives"
>"That means for 80 hours a week, you are turning them over to the left."
>"We have to challenge the left every single place that it lives."
Well shit, seems like he already did some division. I've never seen a kids' cartoon really bash conservatives or comment on current topics, the most subversive thing is two girls kissing when a show's already bound to be canceled, anyway. Advertisers, being the de facto regulators of what's seen on TV, do a much more effective job throwing their weight around and making networks antsy about what they show compared to anything on the political boilerplate. I remember back in like 2005, people threw a shitfit over Buster's Travels on PBS just because it had the audacity to show gay people existing, two moms raising a couple kids. No commentary on how there should be equal rights for gays, no calls for political activism, just two parents. And people still wanted to cut PBS' funding.
Just know there was a time as recently as the mid 1960s when episodes were edited in southern states to cut out any shots to black people unimportant to the plot or had episodes removed from airing entirely. That's why the original Star Trek was done with long shots that showed most of the crew, to make editing impossible without losing crucial plot points. Again, no promotion of racial equality, just the audacity of showing black people existing.
Advertisers and shareholders are the bane of the entertainment industry.
>I've never seen a kids' cartoon really bash conservatives or comment on current topics
Either you don't watch modern cartoons or you're lying
That movie is a very condensed look at conflict between three generations of family, and it had to be at least three to help the audience understand Ming's motivations and why she's as concerned for her daughter as she is, to the point of stifling her. Combined with how each generation was more "western". Note how the oldest, Grandma Wu, wears a qipao, while her daughter also wears one, but inside of a blazer. And then Meilin wears western clothes entirely. The movie shows validity to both cultures and that it's not an either-or proposition. Meilin can be herself and still be respectful and loving to her family.
I don't see it as bashing traditionalism since Meilin shares so much with her mother in terms of mannerisms (take a closer look at the body language). "Who do they think they are, Celine Dion?", and then later, "You want the panda? You're getting the panda!" Watch how they gesticulate. Little touches that add up.
It was briefly hoped that maybe streaming could solve the problem, but unfortunately, no.
Pretty much.
It's not even set in America.
What do you think "my panda, my choice" means?
She kept her spirit panda pal inside her as opposed to sealing it inside something like her other female relatives
that's because american culture is just identity politics based on a conservative-liberal dichotomy of their political system, and being offended at anything that seems to support the views of the opposing side
>I've never seen a kids' cartoon really bash conservatives or comment on current topics,
Gumball
>"You have to help us."
why do they sound so desperate?
Seems like the better plan would be to get your kids into hobbies and not staring at a screen all day after school.
I love how they bring up some numbers about kids TV time like a business suit shilling a new product, and it's not just a knee jerk reaction to wokeshit on Sesame Street
so I'm guessing this is either
>teaching the same regurgitated non-political lessons as woke cartoons (listen to your parents, eat healthy, don't do bullying)
>insidious ideologies but right-wing, hopefully with completely bungled metaphors like that PragerU cartoon that said Galileo was hated by the scientific community
This is exactly why I can't wrap my head about how would you approach a "right-wing show"without making it political.
Any general basic lessons you would teach to a kid are already things the left also do (Be kind to others, brush your teeth, don't be mean to your classmates, eat healthy etc.), but because the left do them, then by their own terms is something "woke" that must be fought against.
So, the only way for something to be considered "right-wing" is if it's either mostly focused on Christianity or a show that directly teaches people to hate others and to never share. One sounds boring and the other sounds like it wouldn't be a good role model for young kids which was the whole point of the plan.
For me one of the biggest conservative signalling in this is the mother's design; the mom wearing a dress is rare and it's a sign of tradition. She's a tradwife.
>Be kind to others, brush your teeth, don't be mean to your classmates, eat healthy
These aren't leftist teachings lmao
>a show that directly teaches people to hate others and to never share
These are though, and they already happen
What do you mean? Michelle Obama was hated by the right for promoting healthy eating Sarah Palin was applauded by republicans for chugging soda on stage.
Natural eating is promoting by right-wing fitness while leftoids promote eating the bugs
https://www.vice.com/en/article/j5e3z7/gym-bros-more-likely-to-be-right-wing-buttholes-science-confirms
>source: gym bro stats
Eating bugs is traditional in some parts of the world and is natural. Gym bros drinking whey protein formula is soi as frick and unnatural by most standards.
>Eating bugs is traditional in some parts of the world and is natural.
There's a reason why literally no one wants to emulate those part of the world you dunce.
Cultural norms and feelings. Eating dogs "natural" in some places and eating pigs and cows is "unnatural" in others. Tying "eat the bugs goy" politics into your appeal to aesthetics just shows how fricking moronic you are.
>Eating dogs "natural" in some places
Largely only fricking china and they've been relentlessly fricking mocked upon by the whole world
>eating pigs and cows is "unnatural" in others.
By Muslim and then Hindus respectively. Otherwise they've eat other natural food just fine
Your idea of "natural" is what's globally decided to be deemed normal by a majority vote.
Are you literally saying that cow meat, porks and chickens are not natural?
I was raised by very conservative and right leaning parents and a catholic school and they taught me one should lend a hand to the poor and unfortunate or that I must respect my teachers or that I should vaccinate for the flu.
Now all vaccines are the devil, teachers are all bad and want to indoctrinate us and the poor should fend for themselves.
What at some point were basic "Common manners, healthy tips and Christian Values" now are evil doctrines of the liberals, so I wouldnt be surprised if someday Republicans start saying toothpaste gives you autism and that brushing your teeth is part of the queen agenda
queer*
>Republicans start saying toothpaste gives you autism
Hi, have you not seen people talking about how fluoride in the drinking water lowers IQs? Guess what side of the political spectrum they tend to lean on? The answer may shock you!
Incidentally, Alex Jones has been selling 'fluoride-free' toothpaste for years.
galileo WAS hated by the scientific community. he was considered a crackpot loon and was banned from Universities for like 15 years, and was imprisoned. Eventually, the community accepted him.
>No divisive narratives. No insidious ideologies.
Okay, so it's a right-wing propaganda cartoon like that PragerU shit.
>no divisive narratives
>WE HAVE TO CHALLENGE THE LEFT
Dumbass. I hope the cartoon is good though, it looks nice.
This show is going to be destroyed by Twitter leftards isn't it.
Imagine if Mr Rogers or Veggietales came out now what Twitter leftists would do
They'd love Mr. Rogers because he's an old pedophile that made you feel special for doing absolutely nothing of value. He likes you just the way you are; a complete moron.
They'd call Phil Vischer a racist for "blackface" via Mr. Nezzer and Pa Grape would be seen as antisemitic. He was susceptible to the first one and Nezzer got recast in 2019.
No. Just no.
Veggie Tales and Mr. Rogers didn't have a Thanksgiving cartoon about how indians are savage and murderous cannibals that don't contribute anything to society.
https://twitter.com/SomeMoreNews/status/1183822856624304128?t=h5mpInzpBvli7mm8k6M6gg&s=19
Until now, it was Daily Wires first and only cartoon. This is their Steam Boat Willy.
It's either going to be the American answer to Bluey or turn into the next VeggieTales. Either one is good.
Looks like Bluey which is good. If this as good as that this could actually work.
>Hand drawn animation
>Art style looks good
Wow I'm actually impressed.
How long until Twitter collectively has a schizo meltdown over this?
It hasn't really gotten their attention yet, most posts have at most 20 likes
But from the few I've see they are already talking about doxxing/harassing people who work on this so it's already going great
Has crimson or Animat b***hed about it yet?
Who is this fox b***h? I keep seeing her time to time here...
>they are already talking about doxxing/harassing people who work on this
Why do i get the feeling that all that "harassment" is going to end in nothing
this. shitlibs are too stupid around computers to actually doxx anyone
implying it's actually a thing of course
Gen Z is getting pretty serious about doing this stuff to people who don't share their politics
>troony flag
Of course.
Honestly? Good.
Why? Shit's embarrassing. You're a generation of wannabe radicals who can't wipe themselves.
You say that until the tides turn and it starts happening to you
Based, at least they’re getting shit they put their mind to done unlike millenisharts
No source for any of this, kys moronic twitterposter.
Hey, remember what happened when Boomers got mad towards people who don't share their politics?
and it was fricking based
Based on what? Not any metrics of success, going by how many people have gone to jail so far. Oh, and how Pence is still president. But you don't strike me as a 'details' kinda guy
>Pence is still president
Que?
Good. At least they're doing something
IT IS NOW A RACE AGAINST THE CLOCK TO DRAW PORN OF THE MOM.
She only engages in loving Christian sex with her husband when they ready to make another homeschooled child
FORGIVE ME FATHER FOR I HAVE SINNED
yall are fricking quick
lmao
anon you forgot something...
Someone actually fricking did it.
I'm sad now
bruh
I HAVE A BAD CASE OF CHIN-CHUSSY FEVER
Frick I need more of her.
Why? She looks ugly as shit.
>Paint it black and DM it to Ben Shapiro
logo from the dw site
Wow its actually like theys got talented people workin on this.
I believe Ethan Nicole (Axe Cop) is directing.
I want to inflate the mom to an enormous size.
The son to the left of the dad reminds me of Buster Bunny.
Same
This is gonna make the cartoon community seeth so much
>it's another Daily Wire shill thread
Cinemaphile is dead.
Please let Shapiro or Walsh voice one stupid character, that's all I ask.
Will Johnny the Walrus make an appearance?
Don't know if it'll be that kind of cartoon where animals and people live together. They could also just go full kino and make Jordan Peterson the grandpa or some shit since he just got hired by them.
The way the kids almost never change expressions is pretty distracting and the movement seems a bit stiff and mechanical at times. In general, it feels like they cut some corners but in a way that a lot of people won't notice.
If this is typical of how the show is going to look, it;s likely to be really noticeable over the length of an actual episode. Seems more likely that this is probably some of the best quality they can reach though since it's a promo for the series and the actual show will look cheaper.
>babyshit that looks like canuckshit from y2k
I think I'll pass
but anon what about gon juk and his conservative overseers :'< they're trying to work their hardest to make animation great again!
so who are ben shaprio and jordan peterson going to voice?
Totally headcannon here but Ben has to play the annoying bullshit neighbor like Ed Bighead.
Looks adorable. Just hope it doesn't turn into political propaganda.
> Daily Wire
Look anon, I try to remain optimistic. Thinking everything will be shit isn't a way to go through life. And if it turns out to be a disappointment, oh well. I move on to the next thing.
The best outcome is it’s Nu-Veggietales.
anything conservatives make the promises to be free of any political propaganda is actually full of it
Right they turn the self actualization you get from giving them money into a job. It's like donating to BLM but instead of police reform you're supporting people who tell you why blacks in Star Wars is now "woke" and therefore bad.
>It's like donating to BLM but instead of police reform
Like BLM actually cares about police reform and not just giving black people immunities and putting them on a pedestal
Nice try, Cinemaphilemblr
So do you get boots delivered pre-flavoured, or do you like to add your own just to mild things up?
What's that based on?
On looking at what they really do and having common sense
https://blavity.com/blm-activists-call-attention-to-graphic-video-of-daniel-shavers-death-at-the-hands-of-arizona-police
They really call for police reform and mobilize around white people being killed too. Your "common sense" is just memes and feelings.
https://www.npr.org/2022/04/07/1091487910/blm-leaders-face-questions-after-allegedly-buying-a-mansion-with-donation-money
They really call for embezzling their influence for their personal benefit. You are full of shit to fall for their trickery.
>Like BLM actually cares about police reform and not just giving black people immunities and putting them on a pedestal
That doesn't support this statement, it just shows that there are leaders who are scumbags. You look for unrelated points like "did you know Trump was on the e-girlta express" or any story about rightwing child sex trafficking as if that tangent has anything to do with the goal or the ideas of the right. That doesn't dismantle most rightwing talking points. The fact remains that you'll find yourself agreeing with BLM if you support police reform.
>The fact remains that you'll find yourself agreeing with BLM if you support police reform.
I found myself disagreeing with BLM, despite supporting police reform, because their solution is blatantly black supremacist marxism.
>despite supporting police reform
lmao
Hiring more police after a police walk out makes reform easier. It's actually cheaper than putting them through CRT informed classes and making them licensed therapists with high quality body cames and nonlethal self defense training. I'm not saying any of that is effective, I'm saying the force in form of reform leaving and more recruits coming in to a post BLM riot world, gives an opportunity for reform in just the orientation and reality of what could happen to funding alone. Not saying it's automatically effective or meaningful.
>t. uvalde cop
>supremacist marxism
Marxism is anti-supremacist; if you're promoting marxism you're promoting equality and equity and you're dismantling hierarchy. If hypothetically black women were the most disadvantaged demographic in the country, they'd need more measures and help to create that equity and equality. To a complete moron ignoring all context, that would look like black female supremacy the same way a complete moron would see kpop inclusion as Korean supremacy.
I showed you proof of blm supporting a white victim and you've shown me you base your opinion on memes and feelings while making it known you don't know what supremacy and marxism are.
>Hero is named Kamen America
>Not a fat sweaty landwhale in a suit that's barely holding itself together
I will not read your comic nor will I fap to it.
Looks much better than the PragerU kids stuff, looks worse than Daily Wire's Thanksgiving cartoon where they said Indians were savages and wouldn't have anything good without the white man.
I'm actually surprised this thread has been civil so far, usually shit hits the fan by now.
Daily wire makes kids shows?
If I even hear a word regarding some political shit in this show, I'm dropping it fast.
>you WILL frick the chinchilla
Less politics, more chillalewds
bump
We can do both if you make gay porn with the dad
The chillalewds are inherently political; when the implication is "free your mind from liberal propaganda" and you make a show about furries, it can be assumed that your nuclear family with lots of kids and no gay neighbors or black friends is meant to groom your kids into colorblind frick machines fighting the great replacement with the babies they'll be making.
Not really. I just want to frick the mom.
>Both
Sketched this up. DM for uncensored :^)
hot
https://files.catbox.moe/nfvl82.png
>First porn of the christian show is futa
God this is going to be the funniest porn scene in awhile
I thought this was the 1st one
Do you think this is gonna beat Elinor Wonders Why in terms of popularity?
Unless they link an unedited version i'm assuming it doesn't exist
This was for
>futa
I sleep
Perfection
How do I DM? Do you have a handle?
homie just catbox or imgur that shit
I can't wait for threads about this cartoon to get instantly banished to /misc/ or /trash/ because this board can't control itself.
>implying there will even be threads
You know some chucklefrick wanting to sneak /misc/ into Cinemaphile like a fricking trojan horse is going to be making threads about it nonstop once it airs.
we get Kamen America threads and storytimes from time to time but nothing happens to them, I don't even think people really care
Kamen America doesn't have furgay appeal so of course it isn't as bad as it could be.
So what you're implying is that if a cartoon features anthropomorphic animals chances are it gets talked about more on Cinemaphile than humanshit?
I'm saying talking animals are a much bigger autism magnet than humans are, and that can be attributed to autists' general lack of empathy for other humans as well as unhealthy attachments to simple objects and concepts (which can be easily observed in fandoms like Pokemon, Thomas the Tank Engine, GR15, etc.)
So just so we're clear: themes of inclusiveness in cartoons is 'indoctrination' but the Christian theocracy The Daily Wire usually peddles is a-ok, is that right? Because if you think this isn't going to be any kind of pipeline into their other content, you're an idiot or wilfully naïve.
Do you really think they are going to teach "troony bad" in this cartoon for 4 year olds?
you get told that in church, of course they can
Funny how Veggietales never talked about "abortion bad" or "troony bad" but this cartoon will because reasons
please learn the difference between "can" and "will" before posting
>Because if you think this isn't going to be any kind of pipeline into their other content, you're an idiot or wilfully naïve.
The Baymax cartoon literally implied men can get periods.
They can.
They can’t.
They can.
Where do these men keep their menses? I’m willing to learn. Where are male menses?
Post up females to males do. You calling him a male is progressive.
My mistake then. The lady on cross-sex hormones.
Isn't it weird for it to be promoting Christianity if the owner is israeli?
Benny Shaps gets all his money from Christian conservatives. A lot of the people who appear on his shows and videos are Christian conservatives. Most of his views and values align with those of Christian conservatives.
I think he's going to promote whatever they say without question.
No. He gets his money from oil companies. Conservatives already have that AM/FM radio market and Daystar.
Yes, and if we know anything about Conservatives and Christians, it's that they inevitably reach a point where they say 'yeah, we have enough of the market' and just stop. They never try and control every market open to them, no sir.
No because "Judeo Christian values" is a neocon concept that allies Christian conservativism with Israeli nationalism in hopes to make global theocratic super powers. It's not really about religion as it is about using religion as cultural tools to direct government and policy towards preserving the existing power structure without challenge. It makes it so that social issues can be used to distract from real issues that make most people poorer and few people richer.
Neocons are getting their shit kicked in by Trump and he already humiliated them in such a way that nobody would take the Secret Service or CIA seriously.
Maybe it's better to just use the term Chrsitian Nationalist because you're right, there has been a departure from Bush type neoconservative, though there are strong similarities like Trump's strong support of Israel.
Specifically, White Christian Nationalists. I don't see many of the black churches getting involved. Maybe Pastor David Manning, but he spends a lot of time talking about how homosexuals are trying to turn him gay with their billboard ads and sending him literal buckets of shit, so he's his own kind of crazy.
Clarence Thomas is literally the Black supremacist who watch Spike Lee movies, reads Native Son, and likes Black Panther while quoting Malcolm X.
Aww, lookit the big strong keyboard warrior! How many libs you owned today son? Are you winning the Culture War?
The content of the "teaser" here looks bland and uninteresting, I don't think I'll bother watching it, but it's refreshing to see actual animation in the form of individually drawn frames, rather than the rigging and tweening garbage that we've had to endure for decades at this point.
No, don't try and tell me that rigging and tweening is fine because it "saves animators work", or that it "looks good enough", both techniques look bad when used improperly (which is 90% of the time) and just feel very lazy when it's obvious they are being used. They are techniques that results in lower quality work, which might be fine to placate general audiences, but for internet autists like me, it'll always look bad.
People are right that this wouldn't stand out as anything remarkable in the 90s or 00s, but that's more a commentary on how low the standards for 2D animation have been consistently falling amidst people trying to pretend that everything is fine and nothing is wrong.
90s and 00s was when cartoons were peak comfy. The problem with leftists is that they are making Captain Planet or other edutainment shows made during that same period
>but it's refreshing to see actual animation in the form of individually drawn frames
We've already had that in several TV shows by this point and again, a majority of it looks about as bland and uninteresting as any low-tier Toonboom work due to the "nature" of the usual production process (coughKoreacough)
>No, don't try and tell me that rigging and tweening is fine because it "saves animators work", or that it "looks good enough"
Not my argument. I've just said that much of the -best- stuff I've seen allows for a higher degree of ambitiously executed cuts, even those that would be usually expensive to pull off in a hand-drawn TV production setting, when utilized well. I guess it helps that retakes are also much easier to do due to its inherently digital pipeline and all
>both techniques look bad when used improperly (which is 90% of the time) and just feel very lazy when it's obvious they are being used. They are techniques that results in lower quality work
Well of course, it's like badly utilized frame-by-frame, or 3DCG (also 90% of the time for both). If they treat the process like shit, or course it's gonna look like shit in the final work. A tool is only about as good as the people using them, after all
>but for internet autists like me, it'll always look bad.
Of course it'll always "look bad" for you when you consciously avoid the good done with it, not unlike those who similarly fearmongered about 3DCG during the Toy Story days.
The comparison with 3D animation is invalid, they are different mediums in animation. Rigging + tweening are animation techniques and they generally look bad, I agree it's usually down to funding and talent, that they can look good when properly used, but it always seems like these shortcuts and cost-saving measures deliver a lower quality product than if funding was properly allocated and more cost prohibitive techniques were used.
Frame by frame doesn't magically "make good animation", but it generally causes animators to rely less on bad-looking (to internet autists like me) shortcuts, and it's something that's become more scarce in recent times, which is why I thought this was refreshing, even for a product as uninteresting as this.
I felt similarly about the recent(ish) revival of the Looney Tunes, where they released an initial pilot(?) that looked like it was using frame by frame animation, and looked great, but they cheaped out on production costs and it ended up looking pretty bad.
>The comparison with 3D animation is invalid, they are different mediums in animation.
They're still both inherently digital mediums that utilize similar methods of animating characters and get a similar amount of flak time after time, so of course I'd compare the two.
>Rigging + tweening are animation techniques and they generally look bad, I agree it's usually down to funding and talent, that they can look good when properly used, but it always seems like these shortcuts and cost-saving measures deliver a lower quality product than if funding was properly allocated and more cost prohibitive techniques were used.
While you're not wrong, I feel a majority of hand-drawn TV animation suffers from a largwly similar dilemma.
>but it generally causes animators to rely less on bad-looking (to internet autists like me) shortcuts, and it's something that's become more scarce in recent times
I dunno, a lot of the shortcuts done in TV hand-drawn still looks as bad to me as any shortcut used in low-tier ToonBoom shit. I mean, it's bad enough that the animation quality in general has barely advanced beyond how it was in the '80s. Most shows still move like either Little Clowns of Happytown, or 80's G.I. Joe, and that's baffling to me.
>I felt similarly about the recent(ish) revival of the Looney Tunes, where they released an initial pilot(?) that looked like it was using frame by frame animation, and looked great, but they cheaped out on production costs and it ended up looking pretty bad.
Even if it still did frame-by frame, I doubt the results would look as good as what Termite Terrace did nearly a century ago
>I felt similarly about the recent(ish) revival of the Looney Tunes, where they released an initial pilot(?) that looked like it was using frame by frame animation, and looked great, but they cheaped out on production costs and it ended up looking pretty bad.
Just to be clear, the show uses frame by frame animation most of the time, but one of the four studios doing the animation happens to use puppet rigs. The "pilot" you saw was animated by Tonic DNA, and the tweening clips you saw were animated by Yowza.
Not of a fan of those stationary holds that occur when Bugs is trying to make a fire (?)/ the Lion character reacting in shock from having his instrument broken. Just goes to show that even these dated Kennedy-era/animu shortcuts can affect what should be high-priority productions.
Kennedy Cartoons gets a bad rap but it's honestly pretty cool. Heart was in the right place but didn't have the crew necessary. He got the kick dance from Dumbo and a lot of the other elements are very common in cartoons of the era.
Bashing Glen Kennedy aside, these two look like they're made of gelatin. Stop wobbling, damn it. More frames does not equal better.
>Kennedy Cartoons gets a bad rap but it's honestly pretty cool.
Their drawing quality could be a bit janky at times but honestly they aren't as offensive as say, AKOM in terms of output.
>More frames does not equal better.
It's more how the frames are timed/spaced that decides the output. But yeah, some pretty piss poor decision making on those fronts there. Almost Zelda CD-i level movement even.
I do, you're admitting you don't and that this isn't even about children to you, it's about ethnic politics.
>but what about the fetus
It's not a child, it's a fetus. If you can catch it early enough, before 8 weeks, the fetus has less brain function than a shrimp. Unless you're a vegan, shut the frick up. If you're a vegan, also shut the frick up.
You're both moronic libs and you should just stfu about your obvious malding at losing the culture war thanks to based Cornpops overturning RvW.
Anyway, I hope the series have a consistent quality and doesn't portray any sort of neocon politics in it.
Oh look, the NPC's resorting to buzzwords and catchphrases. Imagine my shock.
>Oh look, the NPC's
ironic, also I can't find the tweet said by Crowder here
>Using a meme created by right wingers
>trying to call anyone for using buzzwords
And for the millionth time, lefties proving yet again that they can't and will never be able to meme.
Oh yeah, I remember that. Their victim came forward thanks to #metoo but the right wants to think that movement was bad.
Nice try Amber but that shit doesn't work here
What doesn't work? Their victim really came forward thanks to #metoo.
"hey kids, do you like feet?"
All of you people bringing up politics here deserve to be meat grinded
So... Ben gets bullied by his own kids right, they force him to eat at the small table right?
Meanwhile, his Doctor wife dines with the poolboy.
>Guys look it looks well made!
Sure you'll be saying that when it comes out and the episodes are literally just a kids show doing the same kids show stuff but talking about patriotism alongside the usual kids stuff like sharing and whatnot. Or worse, going full "HEY KIDS, ABORTION IS BAD" where it is clearly talking to the parents to get their money/attention.
It's gonna be forced hokey propaganda with no nuance for sure, even if it's well made visually.
If I want some cute animal fun times for kids with a mom character people wanna frick I'll just stick with the PBS rabbit.
If I want some decent quality with patriotism with nuance I'll just rewatch King of the Hill.
Cringe
>It's gonna be forced hokey propaganda with no nuance for sure
so like everything on american tv then
lol based Texas.
>you weren't put in chains Black person
>you were just involuntarily relocated here by your granpappy while you were asleep in your mudhuts.
I don't let my kids watch propaganda.
As Frank Miller once said. "People only call something Propaganda when they don't agree with it."
What do you let your kids watch
Think about this very carefully
I think an interesting question for anyone to consider is at what point does something become "propaganda"? Is it anything that expresses the author's ideology or personal views propaganda? Would that include Orwell? Seuss? Dickens? What is the threshold of nuance that is required before something can no longer be considered propaganda?
TALK ABOUT THE CARTOON, WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT POLITICAL GARBAGE
The cartoon is inevitably going to invoke these kind of discussions considering the studio behind it.
>Cinemaphile is impressed by literal israeli money and politics injected into diet Bluey