Honestly as far as new Star Wars goes, it is a good show, 7/10 so far. The vast majority of it is really well produced and looks really visually appealing. The pacing is fine. I agree the Leia chase scenes really didn't look good. I'll also agree that all scenes of kid Leia being a girl boss seem a little out of place. But I think some of the hate is undeserved. Reva isn't meant to be a particularly likeable character and I think that's why Moses Ingram is getting so much flak. Same thing happened to Lena Headey when she played Cirsei. She got a shit load of hate for portraying a total b***h character well.
Villains are either meant to be scary, sympathetic or enjoyable to watch in some manner, whilst Reva is just angry and belligerent in a way so typical to her appearance - the issue is that rather than believing this is a force of danger in a sci-fi universe, you are reminded of the sullen, annoying black people you are forced to interact with in real life. I shouldn't be watching Star Wars and getting reminded of being a cashier at a retail job near a ghetto.
A white liberal from California doesn't understand this because they have never had to actually interact with this group of people they simp for.
imagine being a guy spending time on a project called "star wars takes". a fricking nerd crew irl. and i guess we partake a little by even acknowledging they exist. This is a motivational speach for myself , first and foremost : time to let go. i know the score, we know it, they do cashgrabs and its all awkward and hardly have any charm. its time for me to stop. the best way to really quit is to use filters to hide star wars content... but there is so much of it, and the board is shit enough with all the other crap movies maybe its time to let go of fricking /tv for a while. maybe the pool of good movies and tv shows will have time to replenish somewhat if i stay away for 2 or 3 years
what are the stages of grief of the star wars fan since the prequels and didney:
1. you know there is very little chance you will be pleasantly surprised but will watch because you have not much else going on
2. you speed watch em to be meme ready
3. you just listen to RLM and misc boards shit and review em for a giggle
4. you stop watching the reviews
5. touch grass.
I actually like the rose actress and think she is decently cute outside the movie and was a good raya. People hated how terrible of a character she was in star wars and how that entire subplot was horrible. Topple in the fact that her message makes no sense. Dont sacrifice yourself its not worth it as a laser beam in the background blows up her friends/ ten minutes later LUKE SACRIFICES HIMSELF.
Also the part where she throws a b***h fit about animals being used against their will to a literal slave child.
The people harassing her were black teens who were mad at being cheated, in their eyes, out of Finn-Rey pairing. Disney had to cover that up so muh racist nerds
Yeah wtf was that? She gets people killed by saving him when he kamikazed, then in the next episode he just ends up with someone else with no explanation. She must have been vexed.
every insult used by the right seeds its way into popular vernacular, so you have people like joe rogan calling other simps and cucks, etc
but "chud" is so cringeworthy and pathetic that it reveals more about the troony using it than anything else
Most insults with teeth have a double meaning which makes it transcend the literal insult.
Calling someone a cuck just means they’re spineless, in this case to the point that they’ll not intervene when someone fricks their wife.
Simp is a loser who gives while getting nothing
troony is an ugly lunatic, etc.
To contrast, chud is literally meaningless in both senses of the word.
i don't know where "incel" originated from but i saw it thrown around here on Cinemaphile long before every leftist and roastie on the planet started using it as their go-to as well
isn't that everyone now that mobile devices have taken over? normies would lose their fricking minds if there was an internet blackout. they would spill more spaghetti than anyone has seen before if they had to directly interact with anyone.
As someone who swore off Disney Star Wars after TLJ it is easily worse. I haven't watched a minute of nuWars since TLJ, but I fell for the prequel nostalgia with Kenobi and wasted 3 hours of my life watching the first 3 episodes. It's fricking horrendous.
I think they would if they could, and they’d dearly love to milk the current conflict, but they probably grasp that even the most moronic normalgay would think it in poor taste, or question why the frick the Kremlin thinks shitposting about a bad tv series is really a top priority right now
>hire black actress >she sucks at ating >people generally disliked the character and called actress acting bad >disney instantly blames people for being racist >cherrypick few actual racist comments from people who are clearly in minority >normies fell for that again like its was with Kelly Mary Tran
Its all so tiresome, and im tired to see normies being so easily manipulated and refusing to think on their own
Rather than pointing out the flaws in TLJ, I find it easier to list the positives of which there are none
It did have me laughing my ass off the whole time just from how unapologetically bad it all is though
I’ve never met someone who legitimately liked Black folk
The most I’ve seen is grudging tolerance.
Even people who claim to like Black folk cannot forget explain why.
It’s all makebelieve
Where was all the fan-racism against the Boba Fett show with its two leads being minorities? Or the Mandalorian with Pedro Pascal, Carl Weathers, and Giancarlo Esposito? These "all SW fans are racists" claims are absurd on their face with only the slightest introspection, its almost as if only bad *characters* are being critiqued, and that the Disney PR machine is running the standard critique-deflection playbook.
Put it this way, where was the accusations of racism from the *Rey* criticisms?
But thats the point - there are definitely racists but where was the Disney spin to protect other minorities, why does the PR squad only seem to spring into action for characters that just happen to be bad characters?
There will always be fringe takes, I have zero doubt that every minority actor has got racist tweets and emails. But its a country of 330 million people, its a planet of 8 billion people, you're going to find some vocal minority for every imaginable mindset. I once heard a kook on that old Coast to Coast AM show speaking of why we've never caught a Bigfoot is because they are fay creatures and turn into deer or squirrels if cornered. In a world where *that* mindset exists, racism is barely a blip on the radar. It doesn't mean we should elevate those edge cases and pretend like they're the norm, and it definitely doesn't mean that megacorporation public relations departments should be able to weaponize those edge cases to bash their own fanbase.
It just astounds me when folks come running to the defense of Disney, a company they were just bashing in a previous breath.
>There will always be fringe takes,
anon Black folk are unpopular. ooogaboogayega was unpopular, lesslie harmbe ghostbuster was unpopular. You are just coping. Dont you remember dey hea? or the reactions finn coiming out of the dunes? The moment anyone seen sheeboon taking over obiwans its clear its gonna be shit. And it wouldnt be like that if she was white.
so stop coping and come to terms, no one likes them
I farted and a whole bunch of splattery poop came out and it's all over my ass and is now running down my legs but I don't want to move because it's nice and warm and I can't be bothered cleaning it up. Help me bros.
How the frick are they retconning TLJs reviews to be about racism? If it was RACISM why the frick wouldn't it affect the first sequel movie? Only the second?
This all-criticism-is-invalid-becos-roycism narrative is so fricking stupid.
maybe, but republican leadirship is fully on board with globohomo. even le based desantis is a homosexual that wants kids after 4th grade to hear about trannies and gay sex
>Ewan said racists have no place in this fandom
But the series got shit on way before that for being garbage. He is right either way. Star Wars manbabies are racists and they are cancer including that StarWarsTakes moron.
>the ghetto nigress we shat into our show to fuel racial tensions is fueling racial tensions >deploy twitter outrage for free brownie points and publicity >all according to plan
>UHHH WE HIRED A BLACK CHICK SO YOU CAN’T POSSIBLY HATE THE 400TH STAR WARS CASHGRAB SHOW!!!
nobody said that
I said it
Uh based?
I’m going to need a line to the based department right now
I got us King
Hello Anon?
you cant do that!
It's literally what they say
Yes they did.
Literally the OP you moronic homosexual.
Learn subtext moron
Yeah they did LMAO
Literally what Disney are saying you fat jobless ugly c**t. Get a wash.
nobody said kenobi sucked because black woman either you gay
i say that
Honestly as far as new Star Wars goes, it is a good show, 7/10 so far. The vast majority of it is really well produced and looks really visually appealing. The pacing is fine. I agree the Leia chase scenes really didn't look good. I'll also agree that all scenes of kid Leia being a girl boss seem a little out of place. But I think some of the hate is undeserved. Reva isn't meant to be a particularly likeable character and I think that's why Moses Ingram is getting so much flak. Same thing happened to Lena Headey when she played Cirsei. She got a shit load of hate for portraying a total b***h character well.
I think you misunderstand
Villains are either meant to be scary, sympathetic or enjoyable to watch in some manner, whilst Reva is just angry and belligerent in a way so typical to her appearance - the issue is that rather than believing this is a force of danger in a sci-fi universe, you are reminded of the sullen, annoying black people you are forced to interact with in real life. I shouldn't be watching Star Wars and getting reminded of being a cashier at a retail job near a ghetto.
A white liberal from California doesn't understand this because they have never had to actually interact with this group of people they simp for.
Reva reminds me of an angry black woman that didn't get the right order at Popeyes
imagine being a guy spending time on a project called "star wars takes". a fricking nerd crew irl. and i guess we partake a little by even acknowledging they exist. This is a motivational speach for myself , first and foremost : time to let go. i know the score, we know it, they do cashgrabs and its all awkward and hardly have any charm. its time for me to stop. the best way to really quit is to use filters to hide star wars content... but there is so much of it, and the board is shit enough with all the other crap movies maybe its time to let go of fricking /tv for a while. maybe the pool of good movies and tv shows will have time to replenish somewhat if i stay away for 2 or 3 years
what are the stages of grief of the star wars fan since the prequels and didney:
1. you know there is very little chance you will be pleasantly surprised but will watch because you have not much else going on
2. you speed watch em to be meme ready
3. you just listen to RLM and misc boards shit and review em for a giggle
4. you stop watching the reviews
5. touch grass.
4 you stop
Star wars always fricking sucked
/trek/chad's, assemble
Star Trek is 99% shit.
/lexx/perienced kinosseurs, assemble.
>/lexx/perienced kinosseurs, assemble.
holy frickin' based
Trek is just bad, if not more. A few good episodes and plots in a pool of shitty ones does not make it good
Farscape on the other hand is the best sci fi and anyone that questions that is wrong and gay
>Farscape on the other hand is the best sci fi
only because it yet has to recieve a "love letter" from "genuine" "fans" in hollywood.
Same thing happened with Rose in TLJ, people called it shit so now they're deflecting by trying to say any negative reviewers are actually racists
Yeah Rian was right, most of them were bots
all that hate was cute and valid
No chud and now it gets fixed
Have fun watching Rians trilogy
>our serie is good because frick racists
ok
I actually like the rose actress and think she is decently cute outside the movie and was a good raya. People hated how terrible of a character she was in star wars and how that entire subplot was horrible. Topple in the fact that her message makes no sense. Dont sacrifice yourself its not worth it as a laser beam in the background blows up her friends/ ten minutes later LUKE SACRIFICES HIMSELF.
Also the part where she throws a b***h fit about animals being used against their will to a literal slave child.
The people harassing her were black teens who were mad at being cheated, in their eyes, out of Finn-Rey pairing. Disney had to cover that up so muh racist nerds
Yeah wtf was that? She gets people killed by saving him when he kamikazed, then in the next episode he just ends up with someone else with no explanation. She must have been vexed.
>AHHHHH ALL OF OUR -ISMS HAVE LOST THEIR POWER
>SAVE ME ROTTEN TOMATOES
Star wars is for queers and women. Men bros, stop consuming media. Rape steal and murder
Check em
>release show
>its shit
>play race card
"Chud" is still the weakest forced insult
every insult used by the right seeds its way into popular vernacular, so you have people like joe rogan calling other simps and cucks, etc
but "chud" is so cringeworthy and pathetic that it reveals more about the troony using it than anything else
Most insults with teeth have a double meaning which makes it transcend the literal insult.
Calling someone a cuck just means they’re spineless, in this case to the point that they’ll not intervene when someone fricks their wife.
Simp is a loser who gives while getting nothing
troony is an ugly lunatic, etc.
To contrast, chud is literally meaningless in both senses of the word.
i don't know where "incel" originated from but i saw it thrown around here on Cinemaphile long before every leftist and roastie on the planet started using it as their go-to as well
Incel basically just means socially inept shut-in.
isn't that everyone now that mobile devices have taken over? normies would lose their fricking minds if there was an internet blackout. they would spill more spaghetti than anyone has seen before if they had to directly interact with anyone.
It's like someone calling you "normal".
yeah incel has a lot more sting and actually gets them mad
kek not at all
I have sex with my wife most nights of the week and get called an incel here constantly
it means nothing
using incel as an insult implies that women's only worth is being penis recievers
>implies that women's only worth is being penis recievers
i've still yet to see any evidence to the contrary
>bait: the article
>review bombed
Based disneycopers
I think Kenobi is WORSE than TLJ, possibly. We'll see by the end.
As someone who swore off Disney Star Wars after TLJ it is easily worse. I haven't watched a minute of nuWars since TLJ, but I fell for the prequel nostalgia with Kenobi and wasted 3 hours of my life watching the first 3 episodes. It's fricking horrendous.
i thought they blamed russian bots for TLJ RT score?
why not blame russian bots for moses ingram?
They can only milk each excuse for so long before they have to come up with a new one
I think they would if they could, and they’d dearly love to milk the current conflict, but they probably grasp that even the most moronic normalgay would think it in poor taste, or question why the frick the Kremlin thinks shitposting about a bad tv series is really a top priority right now
Get with the times, grandpa.
>First it was Gamergate
>Then Russian bots
>Now its the racist incels from Cinemaphile
>Gamergate
gamergate did review bomb tho, there was also a campaign to strip journos of ad revenue. did you just forgett that?
PUTO
>hire black actress
>she sucks at ating
>people generally disliked the character and called actress acting bad
>disney instantly blames people for being racist
>cherrypick few actual racist comments from people who are clearly in minority
>normies fell for that again like its was with Kelly Mary Tran
Its all so tiresome, and im tired to see normies being so easily manipulated and refusing to think on their own
Take a long nap.
exactly, perfect breakdown
Getting compared to the last jedi, the film that killed the most profitable franchise in the world, is not what Disney wants.
>racists have no place in this Fandom
Wow I thought they liked diversity but I guess they don't
It’s has been fun watching Star Wars slowly devolve to CW Batwoman tier.
israelite wars still using the same characters lucas made 50 years ago. The people still watching cause it has star wars in the title need a lobotomy.
Rather than pointing out the flaws in TLJ, I find it easier to list the positives of which there are none
It did have me laughing my ass off the whole time just from how unapologetically bad it all is though
I’ve never met someone who legitimately liked Black folk
The most I’ve seen is grudging tolerance.
Even people who claim to like Black folk cannot forget explain why.
It’s all makebelieve
Diversity is the ultimate trump card
>write low budget shit story
>add blacks
>any negative reviews can now be dismissed
doesnt make the actual show any less shit. who cares what twitter says
Where was all the fan-racism against the Boba Fett show with its two leads being minorities? Or the Mandalorian with Pedro Pascal, Carl Weathers, and Giancarlo Esposito? These "all SW fans are racists" claims are absurd on their face with only the slightest introspection, its almost as if only bad *characters* are being critiqued, and that the Disney PR machine is running the standard critique-deflection playbook.
Put it this way, where was the accusations of racism from the *Rey* criticisms?
anon do you realize where you are? do you seriously think a nons around these parts are not racist?
But thats the point - there are definitely racists but where was the Disney spin to protect other minorities, why does the PR squad only seem to spring into action for characters that just happen to be bad characters?
There will always be fringe takes, I have zero doubt that every minority actor has got racist tweets and emails. But its a country of 330 million people, its a planet of 8 billion people, you're going to find some vocal minority for every imaginable mindset. I once heard a kook on that old Coast to Coast AM show speaking of why we've never caught a Bigfoot is because they are fay creatures and turn into deer or squirrels if cornered. In a world where *that* mindset exists, racism is barely a blip on the radar. It doesn't mean we should elevate those edge cases and pretend like they're the norm, and it definitely doesn't mean that megacorporation public relations departments should be able to weaponize those edge cases to bash their own fanbase.
It just astounds me when folks come running to the defense of Disney, a company they were just bashing in a previous breath.
>There will always be fringe takes,
anon Black folk are unpopular. ooogaboogayega was unpopular, lesslie harmbe ghostbuster was unpopular. You are just coping. Dont you remember dey hea? or the reactions finn coiming out of the dunes? The moment anyone seen sheeboon taking over obiwans its clear its gonna be shit. And it wouldnt be like that if she was white.
so stop coping and come to terms, no one likes them
It really wouldn't be a problem if they cast black people instead of Black folk.
there is no difference
Black folk are talking apes
black people are people who happen to be black.
>black people are people who happen to be black.
doesnt exist, unless you count coalminers right after shift
I farted and a whole bunch of splattery poop came out and it's all over my ass and is now running down my legs but I don't want to move because it's nice and warm and I can't be bothered cleaning it up. Help me bros.
Fans don't like it because it sucks.
Disney deflects criticism by calling people who don't like their products racist, sexist, russian bots.
>get review bombed because you're fricking shit
>blame some made up bogeyman instead
Now where have I seen this one before?
>it can't be "review bombed" for being bad
How the frick are they retconning TLJs reviews to be about racism? If it was RACISM why the frick wouldn't it affect the first sequel movie? Only the second?
This all-criticism-is-invalid-becos-roycism narrative is so fricking stupid.
It’s getting review bombed cuz it sucks
>"if you don't like the globohomosexual slop, you're a racist!!!"
I hate Black folk.
>if you don't like the globohomosexual slop, you're a racist!!!
most modern lefties believe this
most republicucks do too. they all agree that le racism bad
Less so with republicans. It’s more of a left thing
maybe, but republican leadirship is fully on board with globohomo. even le based desantis is a homosexual that wants kids after 4th grade to hear about trannies and gay sex
>Maybe
No, it’s a fact. And you really love to seethe about Republicans, eh?
yeah a genuinly dislike republicans for reasons i gave above. even if its 90% for dems and 50% for republicucks, it ainthing to write home about
WHAT IF....
I HATE Black folk!
*AND*
NU STAR WARS SUCKS?
WHAT IF...
BOTH ARE TRUE?
WHAT IF...
Black folk ARE DISGUSTING AND STAR WARS IS GARBAGE TOO?
WHAT IF....
please report back to your containment thread
They're shoveling shit in their mouths and forcing a smile thinking it's an "own" on nazis or whatever and I love it.
>racists have no place in this fandom
Why do these gays think they get to decide who likes Star Wars? Pathetic impotent losers.
I didn’t see any of it. But I’ve seen constant people defending her. Barbara Streisand effect or what?
>Ewan said racists have no place in this fandom
But the series got shit on way before that for being garbage. He is right either way. Star Wars manbabies are racists and they are cancer including that StarWarsTakes moron.
whos to blame for this, it can't be Cinemaphile
Jesus, it's like they had everything planned out from the beginning.
They absolutely did
>the ghetto nigress we shat into our show to fuel racial tensions is fueling racial tensions
>deploy twitter outrage for free brownie points and publicity
>all according to plan