Anyone else get salty over the MCU relationship between Tony and Peter? Because after Tony screwed Peter over so fricking hard in the civil war storyline.. man I don't know it just ticks me off.
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Anyone else get salty over the MCU relationship between Tony and Peter? Because after Tony screwed Peter over so fricking hard in the civil war storyline.. man I don't know it just ticks me off.
This, but the opposite. The character assassination that 616 tony faced due to being a proxy target for millar's bush hateboner was always a mistake and the sooner it's forgotten and overwritten by stuff like mcu cw, the better.
I mean you can dislike both right?
Why was Tony all ass mad about it again? Its been a while.
in 616 or mcu? and yeah, both suck, because the sides are wrong. cap should be pro government and stark pro individual
>Cap should be pro government
Nah.
Cap is more for the American ideal than the government.
I'm more familiar with the mcu cw than 616, but it wouldn't strike me as odd for cap to be the government one. The world is new and odd and confusing and loud and weird and him deciding the people ought to be kept safe from the absurd current dangers that exist in the new time, as opposed to his own, by relying on what he always knew (army) seems more understandable to me than stark becoming a lap dog, after all his "muh privatized peace, don't touch my stuff" schtick.
In fairness, Cap's second movie was all about him learning he can't blindly trust people in authority, and that American establishments that were supposed to do good had been infiltrated, subverted and corrupted during the decades he missed.
And if that was the argument he put forth against the accords in cw, it would have been fine. But that's never the case. It's either
>muh bucky
>we're morally infallible
>wanda on house arrest is evil.
Cap should have talked about the HYDRA infiltration and how they're a present danger still. Instead, Rhodey just goes
>we're talking about the UN, not HYDRA
and then the disagreement is over things that are shallower than a puddle.
STRICTLY speaking for the MCU, it makes sense that Cap is against him. See because Cap in the MCU didn't join the army to be an armyman, he joined it because someone on the otherside of the world needed help. Stark on the other hand has worked side-by-side with government contracts and military arms so he can see the potential of bilateral co-operation between the two rather than mucking about with the little guys that get left out which Cap has always represented.
"If cap didn't act like cap, it would make sense"
cap being as you imply isn't something built in the mcu
No. You move.
I will keep wearing the mask so frick off /misc/
Enjoy carbon dioxide poisoning I guess.
Enjoy monkeypox, homosexual
No mask will protect your ass.
>enjoy something that doesn't exist
Just you bro
Tony got Aunt May killed.
Yeah, MCU shit feels like insult on so many levels. But then again, Cebulski’s Comic-Con panel proves that you can shit in comicgay’s mouth, and he’ll consoom it and demand more
This, too. Peter is turned into manchild again and forgot what Stark did to him, haha, so funny
This panel always bugged me because it takes place during either
>Superior Spider-Man: Otto wouldn't act like this nor wear that costume
>Big Time: Where Peter actually had money and the Avengers knew it
You do understand that the characters themselves got over this over ten years ago? Staying mad about old stories that aren't even relevant to the characters anymore isn't healthy. I'm not saying I like the MCU dynamic between Tony and Peter, but they shouldn't have been under any obligation to adapt what Civil War did with them.
Yeah I understand status quo sucks.
Are you honestly saying that when some stupid event story trashes a character you actually want them to get the Hank Pym or Scarlet Witch treatment where we have to keep pretending it's still important and relevant decades later and they're never allowed to move past it, because "going back to the status quo would be bad"? Marvel and DC would have no likeable, heroic characters left if they treated everyone like that.
I don't mind Spider-Man detesting Tony Stark but not understanding why until OMD is undone.
They didn’t get over shit. Marvel just swept it under the rug with OMD and amnesia and never mentioned it again. That’s not what getting over means.
If they're working together again with no problems, they've gotten over it, even if you didn't get an on-panel story addressing how they go over it, because most writers don't want to keep characters obsessing over things that happened years ago that aren't relevant to their run. This is especially true in Marvel's modern continuity-lite approach where most books get a new writer every 2-3 years and little from the previous run stays relevant. Do you actually want every interaction between Spider-Man and Iron Man to always be them arguing over things that happened in 2006-2007 forever?
The more I think about Civil War the more it reeks of a rebranded Ultimate event.
>Mark Millar written story feels like an Ultimate comic
I wonder why that is?
I don't particularly care about Ultimate crap or Millar, so yeah, now I know.
After OMD and Tony's memory dump/old files backup restore, how much of that even still exists in people's memories?