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>commits war crimes
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>commits war crimes
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Rape and murder is le hecking awesome if the person being raped or killed doesn't share my neo-liberal views
When I was a kid I knew so many WWII vets who served in Japan and Europe and they don't share those Neo-lib views either.
In High School I worked at a nursing home at this one old ass man who served at Iwo Jima told me that he thinks all the blacks should be sent half-way back to Africa without parachutes lmao
Sure but they weren't supposed to take prisoners in the first place.
He is doing it for trans women and St. Floyd though so it's okay
>the actual state of western leftists
I love how all these years later juvenile wehraboos found out about Band of Brothers and believe they can make people dislike it because it hurts their precious feelings.
>juvenile
love it when you bioleninists throw this NPC buzzword as if being braindead propaganda churning orifices is a sign of adulthood to be proud of, hilarious
Its objectively an exploitative and ahistorical show. What they did to Sobel, Blythe and Dike was unforgivable. It's like a fanfiction of the well documented war of Easy Company where they just decided to write people in as bad guys or cowards because the intended viewer was too stupid to appreciate complex characters.
Which is why The Pacific is better.
Sometimes they didn't have the information at the time and sometimes Ambrose didn't like some people he interviewed or tried to interview like Shames.
There is no excuse for them not looking up service records, exspecially for main characters. Blythe got a whole episode and they didn't even know he went on to fight and get decorated in Korea. Dike got painted as an inexperienced coward and he had been previously awarded medals for gallantry prior to Foy.
It just reeks of scummyness and the need to rewrite people's contributions for entertainment.
>Blythe got a whole episode and they didn't even know he went on to fight and get decorated in Korea.
Blithe likely fabricated large parts of his service and was photographed wearing unauthorised awards.
The military is honestly kind of scummy when it comes to how they gossip about each other. Chances are the more demonized members of the unit would have their own opinions and stories about the others that are much less flattering. For example Sobel as far as I know never really said much about his side of the events we see, and we’ll never know if he would’ve truly been bad in the field, sometimes people demonstrate their strengths at different times. It reminds me of Generation Kill and how everyone shit on Kasem but then later many of the people that did said they saw him again later and he was a great leader, but in the show he’s treated like a complete dumbass.
Winters shat on a lot of people he had petty grievances with. He really was a cunt and was aloof form the men for decades - aside from Nixon whose family was going to give him a job.
gnomish propaganda like this is why we think that our war crimes were limited to this mild sort of transgression, of shooting a few prisoners that moments before were trying to kill you.
How about US soldiers going from home to home in Germany and the Pacific raping women and girls with impunity? Sometimes mutilating them, torturing them, killing them after.
Or fire-bombing Dresden and murdering 25,000 civilians.
How about torturing the U-546 crew to death?
>How about US soldiers going from home to home in Germany and the Pacific raping women and girls with impunity? Sometimes mutilating them, torturing them, killing them after.
That was the Soviets
>Or fire-bombing Dresden and murdering 25,000 civilians.
The Brits.
>How about torturing the U-546 crew to death?
Seems like the crime was killing a few prisoners who very recently were trying to kill them.
Imagine feeling sympathy for literally an U boat crew
You’d fucking hate the shit out of any submariner if you were a traditional sailor at the time, they floated around blowing shit up
Everyone hates everyone in war. Imagine thinking that only one side tortured, mutilated, raped, stole, and acted like humans.
Oh, I forgot, the Nazis were LE EVIL
>they floated around blowing shit up
Is there something I'm not understanding about Naval warfare for the past 500 years?
Yeah the part where U boats where new, and struck without even being seen, it was a terrifying prospect, and a lot of the time they didn’t care what they targeted so long as they blew up something
So I can perfectly understand if some sailors got a hold of a u boat crew they’d make it personal. I would, only a coping gay wouldn’t.
>need to torture artillery crews due to "muh indiscriminate"
>need to torture pilots due to "muh unfair"
>need to torture sumbariners due to "can't see you"
Just torture people. Stop having to justify it through a lens of fair vs unfair. Is it fair to use guns against illiterate natives with bows and spears?
Most natives used guns as soon as they got their hands on them, they were primitive but not retarded anon.
So replace it with drones vs insurgents for a modern analogy.
The point is that any military will use every conceivable resource possible to maximize enemy casualties and minimize their own. The feelings of enemy combatants should never enter the equation.
No, the only reason you continue to seethe and post is because you cannot control how others perceive things. Nazis were gays that lost and you losers continue to seethe 80+ years later. This isn’t a real argument about ethics, continue to shit self, no one cares.
I'm not the anon that is seething about nazis and allied warcrimes. Do whatever you want to do in war.
I was just e-boing at the fact that submariners are considered especially hateable and deserving of torture. How reality works is that soilders decide to torture already and then justify it during/after the fact.
>capture nazi sailors
>torturing them because your crew is unhinged
>someone is uneasy about it
>"it's okay petty officer these guys were submariners"
Lol what do you not understand about context at the time? I can understand why a 1940s sailor would really fucking hate a U boat crew, it’s not hard to understand why they’d hate them with such intensity they’d torture them. That is what I said. It’s very, very easy to understand it.
So in the original context of the thread and the OP, why did spears gun down those Germans? Were they submariners? Were they artillery crew?
Torture/Warcrimes happen and doesn't need a justification for it.
Dunno, I just said I can understand why people in a situation who see something like a U boat crew might get the inclination to torture them when the opportunity arises. Someone else brought up U boat torture as an allied war crime, but imo I can understand why someone might do it. They targeted anyone and anything if they thought it would cause disruption of supply. The sailors of the time would’ve absolutely despised them, and they did not restrict their targeting to military vessels. Basically asking to be tortured if they were ever caught.
>U boats where new
They were not. Submarine warfare was very important during WWI.
How fortunate are we that in all of recorded history, it has always been the good guys that won?
what about when Russia didn't lose WW2?
Clearly it was both retard. Anglo-Americans hugely exaggerate the Soviet rapes and hugely downplay their own. It's something any army in enemy territory is going to do.
Dresden was a valid military target.
Cope
bro the firebombs and the tactic of waiting for firetrucks to come out so they could be hit was absolutely a war crime. They couldn't get away with that in Iraq.
I get we all want to own the nazis but don't be a retard when you do it
if Dresden was a valid target, then so was Birmingham.
gay.
It absolutely was, same way punching a guy in the face is a valid move, just don't start crying it's not fair when he pulls a flamethrower on you
>How about US soldiers going from home to home in Germany and the Pacific raping women and girls with impunity?
german girls sucking dick for pantyhoses and chocolate is not really the same as some barbarian horde terrorizing germany
>fire-bombing Dresden and murdering 25,000 civilians
the germans were bombing the shit out of the brits and murdered 40,000 civilians
>How about torturing the U-546 crew to death?
beating the shit out of the enemy for information and then shooting them in the head happens. you make it sound like they're cackling whilst applying blowtorches to the toes of the poor innocent germans
The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everyone else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw, and half a hundred other places, they put their rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind.
GETTEM AGAIN, BOMBER!
Britain and France started the war, after Germany went to liberate germans in Poland, after Poland, a country that did not exist for almos 100 years, started a aggression war with the soviets, lithuanians and czechs.
You're responding to an 80 year old quote, I'm not sure Bomber Harris is that interested in your rebuttal.
>gnomish propaganda like this is why we think that our war crimes were limited to this mild sort of transgression, of shooting a few prisoners that moments before were trying to kill you.
Stop talking out your mouth moron. garden gnomes have no problem portraying americans as rapist violent bastards. Brad pitt was a violent rapist in fury.
war is Hell, trannies. now kys so we can put you in a grave marked with your male name.
does any of what you said sense if all those shit happened because garden gnomes called the shots on those descicions?
>hahaha gas all the morons garden gnomes and chinks
>when our time comes everyone will fear the white man
>well kill ‘em all
>what?! noooooo please don’t just shoot me like a dog in the street no I’m actually heckin honorable chudirino it’s just a difference of opini-ACK
DO IT AGAIN
would you have survived the siege of bastogne?
>The charges, officer?
They accepted cigarettes. They were going to die from cancer anyway.
/tv/ros why is the M1928 such a sexy fun
Can you imagine what it's like to hold one?
I bet they cost like 5k each and you can only find them in museums
A Tommy gun.
why do they call him gun
That colloquialism comes from the inventor.
I know it's a tommy gun. I mean the specific 1928 variant which fixed a lot of the issues and uglyness of the other earlier variants.
>mutt viewers clap and cheer
It was kinda standard for airborne troops to do this. They simply couldn’t take prisoners because they’re way behind enemy lines and couldn’t let them go because their position could be revealed. Same thing happens in Saving Private Ryan with the argument over steamboat Willie. Both shows do a shit job of explaining why they end up killing prisoners.
What was the purpose of moving the charging handle from the top to the side?
The old models were complicated and took too long to build. The M1A1 was a simplified design. Also, there was consistency with the charging handle being on the right for other US military firearms.
have you ever fired a gun with two hands?
Are they ever going to make this?
You mean Memphis Belle? Or 12 O' Clock high?
Catch-22
already made,
Did this actually even happen though? It's just one guy who claimed he saw it.
The show should have left it ambiguous
>Winters stated that Speirs was alleged on one occasion to have killed six German prisoners of war with a Thompson submachine gun and that the battalion leadership must have been aware of the allegations, but chose to ignore the charges because of the pressing need to retain qualified combat leaders. Winters concluded that in today's army, Speirs would have been court-martialed and charged with atrocities, but at the time officers like Speirs were too valuable because they were not afraid to engage the enemy.
It was a different time.
No it wasn't, it's that same old trick of we totally wouldntdo this thing we used to do now while not actually stopping it. Same as how the CIA gets so much bullshit, things come to light lat enough people think eh I couldn't happen these days.
>WW2
Who cares?
>curse you grandpa you betrayed our race
*hits grandpa in the balls* oorah
It's only a war crime when you lose. The winners rarely (if ever) get charged with crimes unless it's too politically charged to ignore.
it's a fucking war not a volleyball game
Exactly my point. War crimes that any Allied servicemen did is excused or ignored because they were the good guys and they won the war.
Do you think it's because you never investigated any of the trials of Allied servicemen? How many years have you spent, disproving your initial view? You are an expert on war crimes, right?
>servicemen
Always a few bones of no we totally do the right thing see we punished what we swear is totally an extreme minority but oh certainly not any of our leadership did anything wrong.
Meanwhile Tojo gets the noose for???
Here's the truth: you don't know, because you haven't taken the time to, cause ultimately, you don't care.
>it's a fucking war not a volleyball game
Wars still have rules gay, otherwise America would just agent orange everything and be done with it. Americans even have lasers that blind you instantly. You wanna fight against that?
>America would just agent orange everything and be done with it.
We did do that. We just can't get away with it anymore because the political fallout from our voters found out US troops were exposed to it as well as international condemnation amongst the First World made it not feasible anymore.
>Wars still have rules
not anymore. if you're sitting in the trenches getting shelled there might be some rules about gas and what type of bullet a doughboy can get shot with. but modern warfare has nothing to do with raising a flag over some territory. it is all non linear warfare: an endless economic/cultural manipulation from all sides involved. wars are no longer fought with tanks and planes but with perception management and sabotage
Then why are exploding and poisoned bullets banned? Why are chemical weapons banned?
Because the other side was using it as well and by mutual agreement we don't want to reach a war of attrition with that kind of decimation.
>The winners rarely (if ever) get charged with crimes unless it's too politically charged to ignore.
If you're especially bold, you actually blame the losers for crimes you committed (Soviets and Katyn forest)
it was for the greater good
Reminder that war crime reprisals are considered legal. So taking into account what the wehrmacht got up to I guess you can legally do whatever the fuck you want to them.
Why did Britain get involved in ww2 and why didn't Churchill accept any of Germanys' peace settlements?
because the germans already broke every agreement made earlier and they offered peace on the condition they could invade russia.
churchill was a fat drunken bong but not that stupid he'd trust hitler
Wasn't it implied this never happened and it became a myth? The story changes each time, the character is weird he's basically captain america god mode.
why dont you take it to the war judge