concept such as the choosen one arent appealing anymore?

concept such as the choosen one arent appealing anymore?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    mary sues are boring, yes

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      stop use this kind of terms, it make you look moron.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You look moron right now

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      mary sue literally died twice but yeah
      i guess you genuinely don't know what the movies are about anyway

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is why K from Blade Runner 2048 was so great.
      He thinks he's the chosen one only to find out he's not.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >He thinks he's the chosen one only to find out he's not.
        That was dumb because the rest of the movie was just about K trying to reunite an old washed up man with his daughter. Ridley Scott needs to retire.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't the term Gary Stu?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        if you're from reddit, yes

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They never were.
    The best heroes are always the ones who make their own fate. A man who is not bound by fate to move, but his choice to move forward and steer the fates of all others.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      In some cases (like op's example) it works. Depends on the story really.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I hate the "prophecised chosen one" trope, its such contrived lazy trite bullshit. Person rising to face a challenge and overcoming it is a far more satisfying arc than "You were born to do all this stuff it's set in stone".

      That's exactly what Neo does though

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Raziel then. Simultaneously bound by fate and defying fate

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I hate the "prophecised chosen one" trope, its such contrived lazy trite bullshit. Person rising to face a challenge and overcoming it is a far more satisfying arc than "You were born to do all this stuff it's set in stone".

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Neo is a subversion of the chosen one, but yeah they’re generally pretty boring

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No, Neo is exactly the point of a chosen one. It just does it badly. The 'subversion' is what people think the chosen one trope is.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They're badly done. The point of 'the chosen one' is the misnomer: no one chose them. They were 'chosen by fate' or the gods, or whatever.
    Dune covers it well by explicitly informing the reader of the contrivance early on, and making the purpose of said chosen one be a solution to the problem.
    That problem being the creators of the chosen one not having complete control.
    They have to create multiple candidates over a long period, and then 'choose' the correct one.
    So they are trying to solve the problem of multiple potential futures existing and not knowing which can create ripples that destroy everything thousands of years later, in a future far beyond their control.
    Their selected chosen one uniquely has the power to see the future, understand it, and make genuinely informed choices that are not up to fate.
    It backfires, because fate still chooses the chosen one.
    The Matrix worked up until they copied Dune: the chosen one is all part of the plan etc, and got bogged down with nonsense.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No, Neo is exactly the point of a chosen one. It just does it badly. The 'subversion' is what people think the chosen one trope is.

      Further to this brain-fart, the first Matrix film manages to not miss the mark by revealing just enough when Neo goes to meet the Oracle, without dumping exposition and Architect word-salad.
      There are other potential candidates there waiting to see her. Neo is 'chosen' from among them.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I miss when people actually tried to learn English before posting here.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    they should be, everyone and their mother has main character syndrome these days

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Sir is choosen one appleling when snyder directs? When snyder directs the audience us the choosen one 🙂

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    this was the last time Hollywood actually gave a damn about their movies.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      no rifling marks on the bullets

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    yup
    this is the chinese century
    and people love russia because ukraine is bullshit
    also israelites said you gotta stop of thinking you were ever special your parents were wrong
    enjoy your communism and the bugs 🙂

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Chosen one is a white guy
    Yeah this had growned stale 20 years ago

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    back then:
    >hero learns his potential over the course of the entire movie
    current year:
    >she's amazing because.......YOU FRICKING INCELS SHE JUST IS OK

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Women do not understand the hero's journey because it is intrinsically linked to male puberty (i.e. you have to grow your body/mind in order to succeed socially whereas girls are worshiped once they start getting boobs/hips/etc.)

      The only time female characters are nuanced is in horror movies because being a female is kind of like living in a horror film so it achieves catharsis.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They are still and literally everything still boils down to a chosen one. I still revel in the fact that Harry Potter tried hard to make this ordinary boy the special one, to enjoy the mundanity of muggles compared to the fantastic world and then even she had to stuff in a chosen one thing. Every attempt at subverting it or doing something different falls into it too.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    really? great, I'm tired of that shit

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, the concept of someone predestined to win whos just playing some predetermined role is way more boring than someone who has to rely on their own abilities and random chance and has a genuine risk of failing.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Mary sue: never dies or catastrophically fails prematurely so the story can continute to progress
    >moron normgroid npc character: dies halfway through the movie followed by a black screen for an hour
    gee I wonder what would be more interesting to watch

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >normgroid npc character: goes about his regular everyday life
      kino

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Although Neo is the chosen one, it's hinted at that he may not be.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    power fantasies are #1, always have always will

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    He wasn't he chosen one, he just got gaslit into thinking he was so that's what he became. It's a troony allegory.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I like the trope where they get told they're not really the chosen one and it pushes them to become the true chosen one

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it was always shit since it removes all tension from the plot (you're destined to win lol) while also undermining the hero since its hard to tell if it was due to his actual efforts or just because he was destined to be good anyway

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