Craig of the Creek

About to watch through the last season and felt like the show deserved some genuine discussion. A series like this is defined by community, so let's make it a good one!

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's the best modern CN show right now and that's saying something considering CN resorted to replaying the old shows

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah I'll say it's definitely got more going for it than people give it credit for. Decent sense of continuity across most episodes, character interactions feel pretty organic despite how eccentric some of them can be, not to mention they encourage fan interaction in some ways.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Didn't know the show was ending...

      Overall (from what I remember), it was a pretty good/solid show. The show had a great balance of episodic and serializes stories. It can have episodes with magic, powers, etc... but also nice chill slice of life episodes. The show reminds me of Clarence, OK KO, Codename: Kids Next Door

      I will say, it's impressive the show created such a mythos around the Green Poncho, the other side of the creek, Craig's map, the whole creek war, etc...

      Yeah this tbh

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They even reference EEnE in one of the eps regarding the format/dynamics between the stump kids. It feels down to earth or grandiose/crazy when necessary, often dipping into the latter when the kids use their imagination.

        As for the lore, I like that it doesn't take itself as seriously as some contemporary shows, partially because it can't. Only time I didn't care for the immersion were the cardboard eps, but Carter himself grew on me by the time he showed up in the Capture the Flag saga.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Cool, I will have to watch the that specific ep then. For me, some of the slice of episodes are bit too slow, but they always end up with a positive/good ending for me. The cicada episode, Bernard's job and his worries for college, the two goth (witch) lesbians, that one episode about those friends who grew apart (I think it was the card game convention ep)?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I think you'll like it, it's Kelsey the Elder I think. That's fair, definitely would've preferred more open-ended or bittersweet stuff, but the few instances we did get were enough for me, like the first dog cult episode and one of the last non-serialized episodes that involved tattlers. I can see why the lesbians might get on your nerves, but I'm glad they didn't overemphasize their sexuality and kept most of their shtick focused on fricking with the kids.
            Not sure if I recognize that last one, unless you're meaning the stuff between the Elders and Kenneth.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >The show reminds me of Clarence, OK KO, Codename: Kids Next Door
        its way more like Recess than anything else. I don't know why it keeps getting Kids Next Door or Ed, Edd and Eddy comparisons, its no where near as off the wall as those shows.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          There was an episode where one guy specifically compares Craig, Kelsey, and J.P.‘s dynamic to the Eds.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Best Modern CN show
      This is only true because CN, quite literally, has 3 currently running originals and that includes Craig.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        what show is that owl from?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah I'll say it's definitely got more going for it than people give it credit for. Decent sense of continuity across most episodes, character interactions feel pretty organic despite how eccentric some of them can be, not to mention they encourage fan interaction in some ways.

      Would Craig of the Creek be considered a certified hood classic?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It was nominated by the NAACP. What do you think?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nah b***h was White Bread as they come.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This shit is way too white

          is it a certified black upper middle-class suburb classic?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This shit is way too white

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Perhaps

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Chad Craig

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Confirmed Craig has set wildernessa's loins ablaze since their first meeting

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Based

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            truly he is one of the few based things he did, tamed a b***h

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      CN is a premium channel now lol and adult swim starts at what 6 or 7pm man What happened also about binge this show

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah I lost it right around the time checkered past started. I exchanged better internet for cable and I don't care enough to waste money just for CN. especially with streaming and the high seas

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Keep this thread up, I'm tired and it's 1 in the morning.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'll certainly try, we had a thread that was picking up momentum but something happened to it. Hopefully someone bumps with related images if all else fails.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I'll certainly try,
        Thanks

        it's not bad but i can't bring myself to care enough to watch the movie

        Here's a Mega of the movie if you change your mind.
        https://mega.nz/file/ByEUVJxa#JNbAddbjQJ2ogTIc5dyNARGpXoXVCqElRMhn6HM-77g

        I can't bring myself to rewatch it legally now that it's on Max. The amount of buzz it got versus the SU movie is like night & day. I almost feel bad for Matt & Ben

        My excuse is that CoTC was less of a LORE show then Steven Universe.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Can only do so much as the OP but we'll see how it goes.

          I am sleepy too

          Glad to see you stuck around regardless! And gave our precious little outcast some color too

          My theory is that Jeff Trammell was the main guy running the Twitter account, and that as soon as he left to start his Spider-Man cartoon, the whole account went null and has only gotten more inactive due to every crew member leaving these last few months.

          Checks out honestly, lot of people seeking out greener pastures seeing the writing on the wall. It's sweet that he kept up with the show afterwards though.

          Did you draw this? Nice.
          I'm still sleepy but will post more.
          I like Craig of the Creek threads.
          [...]
          Is that his Creeksona? They're usually younger.

          Like

          Jeff's a big dude, so his self-insert reflects that. Still looks like another random kid regardless.

          said, plus there was at least one crew member who got an old man as his 'sona, think he's pushing 50 irl.
          Also glad to see ya around. Maya's definitely one of my favorites even if she's growing out of that c**tiness.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I am here and there.

            I like seeing all insert characters.
            Does any other show crew do this?
            [...]
            Cool, hope you draw more stuff later.
            [...]
            Damn, I don't remember that old guy.
            And yeah, Maya is cute. Needs more art.
            She got much less bratty near the end.
            Went through a whole arc and everything.

            I'll try to.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              That's fair, can't restrict yourself to just one type of thread. Also didn't expect a second pic, especially this soon!

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Crazy screenshot. Yeah hanging out in other threads sometimes drawing stuff.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'd like to think someone was looking out for us internet weirdos, but they don't seem like the type that'd do that. Also adorable kek.

                Its just Craig all over again. That was a funny ep.
                Do you have any favorite episodes?

                Pretty much, albeit his characterization was a lot more bigoted iirc, something that'd definitely grab Kelsey's attention by the ovaries.
                As for favorite episodes it'd probably vary depending on my mood, but I'd probably go with
                >75% of the Brigid/Fredite arc
                >The Invitation/Tea Timer's Ball
                >Crisis at Elder Rock
                >The Ground is Lava
                >The Jinxening
                >JPony
                Off the top of my head and in no particular order. Also most of the holiday episodes were hits I think.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                probably just someone that didn't think on what should be under Paloma shirt,lol. That a very cute Stack pic.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Most likely, and now it's immortalized and likely won't be corrected if it hasn't been already. And thanks even though it isn't mine, it's from the same crew member that thirsted for the Elders. Same goes for picrel.

                Which threads? I've never seen you.
                [...]
                There's 10 episodes left to be aired.
                [...]
                Good selection of episodes.
                I really like the Rise of the Green Poncho.
                I like Michelle and Omar, they're cute.

                Yeah I probably should've included more S3/4 episodes but those have yet to really "stick" if that makes sense. Loved how much Michelle cringed when she had to use the brat voice. Wish we'd seen more of their dynamic, even if she didn't end up appearing in the show that often.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                She'd rather be a wannabe superhero then another high school girl.
                It was cool when she showed up again.
                Do you think her and Omar talk at all?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                A lot of high schoolers would probably be cool with having a vigilante side-gig, but she made the right call given it could've destroyed what social credit she might've had.
                Distinct maybe on them talking, they're in completely separate social cliques so they have completely different priorities. Could see her checking on how things are going at the Creek itself but not much outside of that.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >would probably be cool with having a vigilante
                She's probably a nerd who reads lots of comics.
                And cared enough to help Omar fight Maya.

                I was in a 12 forever thread for a bit.
                [...]
                I don't think it been corrected or if she has been seen in the background since. That crew member be a bit wild with her elders thirsts. Crew art has a lot of personality that I would like to have.

                >I was in a 12 forever thread for a bit.
                I should've posted in there, Next time.
                >crew member be a bit wild with her elders thirsts
                Yeah, most of them is from that Muddy Marauder.
                >Crew art has a lot of personality that I would like
                Your art is getting pretty good, just keep drawing.

                I don't think it's really fair to compare the two series.

                Probably comparing because they shared crew.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The twelve forever thread was a bit slow and didn't start out good. Always from that mud gremlin. Thanks for the encouragement.
                https://files.catbox.moe/dj2xcj.png

                Apparently she popped up once or twice in S4 but I don't think I saw her, might've been group shots. And it's all about having fun with it, getting a sense of what makes your style its own thing.
                [...]
                Good point, keeps that part of her life stored away lest someone try to ruin her reputation. Hell for all we know she watches that cheese show that Omar and JP discuss, might even get in on the memes with them.
                >Muddy Marauder
                Do love how that's just her legacy with this show, mud and unbridled sinfulness.

                She just faded back to the background. Yeah it just going through the process.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The biggest thing is that you're keeping at it, anon! Love how you did her sleeves here, also that expression makes he seem a lot more laid back too.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Which threads? I've never seen you.

                Did the series has already ended? How nobody talked about its finale?

                There's 10 episodes left to be aired.

                I'd like to think someone was looking out for us internet weirdos, but they don't seem like the type that'd do that. Also adorable kek.

                [...]
                Pretty much, albeit his characterization was a lot more bigoted iirc, something that'd definitely grab Kelsey's attention by the ovaries.
                As for favorite episodes it'd probably vary depending on my mood, but I'd probably go with
                >75% of the Brigid/Fredite arc
                >The Invitation/Tea Timer's Ball
                >Crisis at Elder Rock
                >The Ground is Lava
                >The Jinxening
                >JPony
                Off the top of my head and in no particular order. Also most of the holiday episodes were hits I think.

                Good selection of episodes.
                I really like the Rise of the Green Poncho.
                I like Michelle and Omar, they're cute.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I was in a 12 forever thread for a bit.

                Most likely, and now it's immortalized and likely won't be corrected if it hasn't been already. And thanks even though it isn't mine, it's from the same crew member that thirsted for the Elders. Same goes for picrel.

                [...]
                Yeah I probably should've included more S3/4 episodes but those have yet to really "stick" if that makes sense. Loved how much Michelle cringed when she had to use the brat voice. Wish we'd seen more of their dynamic, even if she didn't end up appearing in the show that often.

                I don't think it been corrected or if she has been seen in the background since. That crew member be a bit wild with her elders thirsts. Crew art has a lot of personality that I would like to have.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Apparently she popped up once or twice in S4 but I don't think I saw her, might've been group shots. And it's all about having fun with it, getting a sense of what makes your style its own thing.

                >would probably be cool with having a vigilante
                She's probably a nerd who reads lots of comics.
                And cared enough to help Omar fight Maya.
                [...]
                >I was in a 12 forever thread for a bit.
                I should've posted in there, Next time.
                >crew member be a bit wild with her elders thirsts
                Yeah, most of them is from that Muddy Marauder.
                >Crew art has a lot of personality that I would like
                Your art is getting pretty good, just keep drawing.
                [...]
                Probably comparing because they shared crew.

                Good point, keeps that part of her life stored away lest someone try to ruin her reputation. Hell for all we know she watches that cheese show that Omar and JP discuss, might even get in on the memes with them.
                >Muddy Marauder
                Do love how that's just her legacy with this show, mud and unbridled sinfulness.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >might even get in on the memes
                Michelle definitely does shares memes.
                >Do love how that's just her legacy
                Her Creeksona has a cute design.
                And I think the fujo humor is funny.
                I'll follow any new show she boards.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Might even draw templates for them occasionally, not sure why she strikes me as a budding artist.
                >I think the fujo humor is funny
                Part of it's probably how offbeat they are compared to a lot of yaoi ships nowadays. They're dysfunctional and goofy in the show when they're together and she embraces that.
                >I'll follow any new show she boards
                Seems she's got something at Titmouse, but until she gets that okay we don't know what it is. I suspect StuGo because come on, but it could be something unexpected.

                In Defense of Ska podcast episode with Jeff Rosenstock and Ben Levin

                Ben mentions that they didn't have any big story arcs planned for after Heart of the Forest, they were just going to go back to doing one-off episodes before they got canceled

                Makes me wonder what the last few eps are going to be then, not to mention their release schedule.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                PALOMA DOESN'T WEAR PANTS! THAT BRAT!

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Not like anyone would really tell her different.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I mean, it’s more like ‘The Loud House’ and ‘Big City Greens’.

          are we out of the hiatus?

          No.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Don't know much about TLH (probably for the best), but I'd say the Big City Greens comparison is pretty apt from what I've seen.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I am sleepy too

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Did you draw this? Nice.
        I'm still sleepy but will post more.
        I like Craig of the Creek threads.

        My theory is that Jeff Trammell was the main guy running the Twitter account, and that as soon as he left to start his Spider-Man cartoon, the whole account went null and has only gotten more inactive due to every crew member leaving these last few months.

        Is that his Creeksona? They're usually younger.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Jeff's a big dude, so his self-insert reflects that. Still looks like another random kid regardless.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I like seeing all insert characters.
            Does any other show crew do this?

            Yup I drew it

            Cool, hope you draw more stuff later.

            Can only do so much as the OP but we'll see how it goes.
            [...]
            Glad to see you stuck around regardless! And gave our precious little outcast some color too
            [...]
            Checks out honestly, lot of people seeking out greener pastures seeing the writing on the wall. It's sweet that he kept up with the show afterwards though.
            [...]
            Like [...] said, plus there was at least one crew member who got an old man as his 'sona, think he's pushing 50 irl.
            Also glad to see ya around. Maya's definitely one of my favorites even if she's growing out of that c**tiness.

            Damn, I don't remember that old guy.
            And yeah, Maya is cute. Needs more art.
            She got much less bratty near the end.
            Went through a whole arc and everything.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Most likely just something done as a favor after they left, we don't really see that many geezers in the show. And I did look at the previews for S5, definitely seems that way. It's interesting how they just kind of glossed over the dodgeball episode though, that had a bit of foreshadowing that could've been brought up in the final episode of the season.
              As much as I love her being happy and giddy, still like the idea of making her eat dirt as she gets taken from behind. Maybe even just grabbing her face before then to make her look the gut that got a lucky shot in the eyes. Could even have it set around the CtF arc, spoils of war stuff.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >still like the idea of making her eat dirt
                Why is seeing Maya abused so appealing?
                My favorite img: https://files.catbox.moe/7wtvlj.png

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Suppose it's just seeing such a hothead like her go down in such a humiliating way, knowing she could mop the floor with 90% of the Creek's inhabitants. Her realizing she's met someone who can outdo her before he puts her in her place. Also she'd probably sound cute groaning after the fact, love her voice.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >its seeing her going down humiliating in a way
                That's it. I like when its a bit funny. A smash cut.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Based bro she kind of deserves it, sad no one posting my stuff though

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >kid on the rope
            I didn't realize Yeat hangs out at the Creek

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yup I drew it

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ok then

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Thx

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it's not bad but i can't bring myself to care enough to watch the movie

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I can't bring myself to rewatch it legally now that it's on Max. The amount of buzz it got versus the SU movie is like night & day. I almost feel bad for Matt & Ben

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I've been tempted to watch it less than legally to spite them but at the same time I'm not good at casting from another device so I'll probably still use Max. Different landscape entirely, if it'd come out a smidge earlier it might've gotten some decent fanfare, hell the show's twitter page sort of went kaput after a certain point, had to rely on the boarders and such themselves for art and news.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          My theory is that Jeff Trammell was the main guy running the Twitter account, and that as soon as he left to start his Spider-Man cartoon, the whole account went null and has only gotten more inactive due to every crew member leaving these last few months.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I don't think it's really fair to compare the two series.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        In fairness, SU has always been the bigger show. For better or for worse, Steven Universe brings a lot of fans to the table, so it makes sense for them to boost the hype compared to Craig.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    are we out of the hiatus?

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonyrnous

    I find it hilarious that they've been using that poster to represent Craig of the Creek on Max. Not only is it way more dramatic and sinister-looking than how the show typically plays out, but that HEART OF THE FOREST logo is kind of distracting.

    Literally any other promo art would've been more accurate. What we have now makes the show look way cooler, though, so I guess it's a good thing as long as it attracts more viewers.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Welp, I’m done then. CotC threads have officially become insufferable.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There's a lot of unintentional irony in using a frog show pic to illustrate your point.

      >its seeing her going down humiliating in a way
      That's it. I like when its a bit funny. A smash cut.

      Kek yeah, and it's not like the show doesn't have moments like that, however infrequent they can be. Could see the same happening to Kelsey after picking a fight with Collin, from sword drawn and ready to take him on one-on-one to something very much like this.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Kelsey's a jobber, so it happens anyway.
        She wins very rarely, and is very small.

        >The show reminds me of Clarence, OK KO, Codename: Kids Next Door
        its way more like Recess than anything else. I don't know why it keeps getting Kids Next Door or Ed, Edd and Eddy comparisons, its no where near as off the wall as those shows.

        >Kids Next Door
        Sometimes things get crazy.
        Any episode about the cardboard kids.
        One of them made a cardboard Mecha.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Oh definitely, it's only a question of her orchestrating the fight with or without his knowledge, not to mention the spoils. And given said spoils seem to have a thing for "tragic romance," it seems she might be more into it than her hesitancy would suggest.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Sounds like a book (fanfiction) she'd read.
            And Kelsey got Stacks into writing them.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Probably something she'd had knocking around ever since that chance encounter between her and her "rival."
              >that picrel
              That whole episode had me thinking evil thoughts kek, especially given how prevalent dragon cuck stuff is. Plus their little 'sonas look like the exact kind of fodder a more gritty warrior could outperform. YA fantasy vs good old fashioned sword and sorcery...which admittedly Kelsey also seems to be fan of given she's still reading Reptiliana comics.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >fodder a more gritty warrior could outperform.
                Kelsey's other OC would use their sona's as toothpicks.
                Conan the Barbarian, hear lamentations of their inserts, stuff.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Was thinking of Collin's OC that Kelsey probably forced him to make but I didn't even consider that one, despite thinking of it while I posted that other message kek. Guess Kelsey's hypothetical self that trained a komodo dragon could also work.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Kelsey has a lot of self-inserts.
                That makes the 3rd one.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                That she does kek, unsurprisingly she jobbed and lost something in each, save for Fire...for now anyways.
                Her dignityand Stacks

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Kelsey would act devastated but curious.
                She would question her strange feelings.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Oh absolutely, all that emotional conflict regarding things she'd never even thought about before.
                That her significant other could be wrenched from her tender embrace, not by the cold jaws of death itself or some other monster beyond comprehension, but lone warrior. A would-be rival that had gotten the best of her, leaving her ego bruised more than any part of her body. One whose fiery spirit could easily make poor Ice "melt."

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                That text even sounds like a monologue Kelsey would write.
                She just rants poetically at her stolen girl.
                After Wildernessa, she's just lost it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I certainly tried capturing that energy, even read it back in her monologue voice a bit.
                Trying to make the most of her feelings, wanting to quell the war being waged in her heart and loins but probably ends up making it worse. Stacks was all she had left, but now this little bastard who wasn't even that invested in the larp to begin with has staked his claim.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Its just Craig all over again. That was a funny ep.
                Do you have any favorite episodes?

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    its a fun show and the true successor to cartoons like Recess or the Weekenders

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Cuck of the Shiet

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Characters like gay of the Creek are nothing more than attempts to portray African American males in an effeminate and non-threatening manner to white audiences

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Did the series has already ended? How nobody talked about its finale?

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Please do not post Black folk.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Frick you, man.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    In Defense of Ska podcast episode with Jeff Rosenstock and Ben Levin

    Ben mentions that they didn't have any big story arcs planned for after Heart of the Forest, they were just going to go back to doing one-off episodes before they got canceled

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      At least that means we weren't missing anything.
      Still would've liked to to have gotten 6 seasons.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      At least that means we weren't missing anything.
      Still would've liked to to have gotten 6 seasons.

      Might even draw templates for them occasionally, not sure why she strikes me as a budding artist.
      >I think the fujo humor is funny
      Part of it's probably how offbeat they are compared to a lot of yaoi ships nowadays. They're dysfunctional and goofy in the show when they're together and she embraces that.
      >I'll follow any new show she boards
      Seems she's got something at Titmouse, but until she gets that okay we don't know what it is. I suspect StuGo because come on, but it could be something unexpected.
      [...]
      Makes me wonder what the last few eps are going to be then, not to mention their release schedule.

      It’s slice-of-life episodes. It was kind of obvious. Even the finale seems to be that, probably an open-ended episode that could allow the crew to get back to it if CN decides to revive the show.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Timestamp for the info?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Can anyone summarize the podcast?

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Where are the remaining episodes? Why are they hoarding them

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      We don't know, CN has always been bad about this.
      They probably do a bomb/marathon event.

      Might even draw templates for them occasionally, not sure why she strikes me as a budding artist.
      >I think the fujo humor is funny
      Part of it's probably how offbeat they are compared to a lot of yaoi ships nowadays. They're dysfunctional and goofy in the show when they're together and she embraces that.
      >I'll follow any new show she boards
      Seems she's got something at Titmouse, but until she gets that okay we don't know what it is. I suspect StuGo because come on, but it could be something unexpected.
      [...]
      Makes me wonder what the last few eps are going to be then, not to mention their release schedule.

      I heard about the titmouse show.
      They usually make good stuff anyway.
      So I was probably already gonna watch it.

      anybody have a mega for the whole show?

      https://mega.nz/folder/394mBSrD#1kHGtM8JsU1L7d2WM1jSFw

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Damn that link got nuked fast.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I was stupid and posted the wrong link.
          I had to delete my other post replying.
          https://mega.nz/folder/5s4hwAbQ#X6_X_VEbpTLL7rektQ7VMQ

          I hope the one anon who's been providing the episodes comes back with an updated mega(if it even exist anymore) I have them all but some of S5 have the CN logo and that triggers my autism.

          Yeah it's still here. I saved the wrong link.

          The twelve forever thread was a bit slow and didn't start out good. Always from that mud gremlin. Thanks for the encouragement.
          https://files.catbox.moe/dj2xcj.png
          [...]
          She just faded back to the background. Yeah it just going through the process.

          No problem, I just like your art.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Ahh no worries thanks for the updated link!

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              No problem. I had messed up.

              I swear this was getting some kind of game, I remember seeing some art of them as fantasy grownups. You know craig being buff while in the same clothes or something like that

              When did you see that?
              Maybe it was just fan art you saw.

              I keep on posting it then, mostly new ones.
              [...]
              True, playing around with poses and stuck with her sitting down.

              That's one of my favorite ones you drew.
              You should draw more of her.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I do really like that pic too, sure I can draw more of her.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I hope it has the HD rips.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I keep on posting it then, mostly new ones.

            The biggest thing is that you're keeping at it, anon! Love how you did her sleeves here, also that expression makes he seem a lot more laid back too.

            True, playing around with poses and stuck with her sitting down.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I'd say that works for the most part, glad you're keeping things varied. Also still love that pic kek.

              [...]
              [...]
              It’s slice-of-life episodes. It was kind of obvious. Even the finale seems to be that, probably an open-ended episode that could allow the crew to get back to it if CN decides to revive the show.

              Oh no I figured that, I meant more what sort of SOL eps, like if we're going to see more focused on specific characters before we're left to our own devices for the forseeable future.
              >if CN decides to revive the show
              Given most of the crew we're familiar with's flown the coop, not sure if a revival would work. I could be wrong though!

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Not sure which characters, but they might have tried getting the Elders to reconcile. I personally would have liked to see a Stump Trio triple date episode.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah I was a bit interested myself since I have more familiarity with the DTVA lineup than whatever CN's been up to kek. Now I'm doubly so thanks to giving Craig a shot.

        Based bro she kind of deserves it, sad no one posting my stuff though

        Take it you're the mad bastard behind these? Never had a prime opportunity to bring them up so now's as good a time as ever kek.
        https://files.catbox.moe/z546mp.png

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yep sadder only that one appears and not the one of the twins. But yep tis me I'm pro Maya correction

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >But yep tis me I'm pro Maya correction
            Did you draw those rope girls I requested before?
            Or did you never start because the thread died.

            >Mudkip, because funny.
            sure
            [...]
            It helps keep pics less static. I love the mud field pics.

            The Mudfish Pokemon, and the Muddy Girl, thanks.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Funny enough I did do it but every thread was a dud and died before I could finally post it. sadly out of town right now. I should be able to post it in a few hours when I get home then I'll probably go right to sleep.

              Was going to link the gallery that both of them were in but it seemed like the best course of action to split em up. Either way good to see you around man, missed our talks kek.
              https://files.catbox.moe/vsy10i.png
              [...]
              I could see that still happening, they've managed to bring people back together in a single ep before. Would be funny if someone takes Mark's place when/if he decides to get his shit together and moves out from under the rock.
              [...]
              Good point, and love the cake you gave her there...or is it a mudpie in this case?

              Yeah cool to see everyone again last few threads were dead on arrival. Also theirs a gallery? but yeah good to talk with everyone miss the threads. Which anon are you bro?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah it sucks, but at least we've got some momentum again now. Kelsey cuck anon here, commitment to the bit's only gotten stronger with each ship episodes. And I meant this, guess "gallery" is stretching it.
                https://catbox.moe/c/in8f6n

                >They broke up. I don’t know.
                So they just dropped it? That sucks.

                At the very least David's been getting in contact with Kenneth and Barry seems to be doing alright for himself.

                np, glad you like the delivery.
                [...]
                >mudpie
                Probably more her style but cake would fit nicely still.

                Either way I appreciate it anon, probably suits her more than her crew counterpart would like to admit.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Ah that based stuff nice, also yeah really though it's as people said. People made to many threads and it ruined the flow. Once a week is best not some daily thing it's why I kept missing threads.

                I also forgot that gallery lol

                np, glad you like the delivery.
                [...]
                >mudpie
                Probably more her style but cake would fit nicely still.

                Yeah I'll get it to you once I'm home bro

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Hell yeah, getting a better sense of how they operate as an item just gave me all sorts of ideas of how to spice things up. And hopefully we don't have a repeat of that fumble for a while.
                Kek didn't know there was one til I checked the archive really.

                I hope rewatching it could lead to a revival. Or at least a sequel series (maybe with them as teenagers?).

                I could even see fan content like retrospectives getting a lot of views helping immensely. As for a sequel series, it'd depend on what aspect they'd want to stick with: the main cast vs the setting. Most likely outcome would be a new set of kids, but they have plenty of instances where the original stump kids give em life advice or something.

                Is something the crew would make.

                [...]
                Probably use slang, Mud mound gyatt

                True, if they had complete creative control on what gets out they'd have a field day.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Do they really need new kids?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                They would just have fun with characters

                >Yeah I'll get it to you once I'm home bro
                Thanks again.
                [...]
                I'm imaginng her running around like a gremlin.
                Spouting inane phrasing at The Elders faces,
                She know they don't understand, just funny.

                Beats up mark for calling Skibiddi Toilet cringe

                David pulling off a feral mud kid from Mark

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Bans her iPad time, its only for good mud kids.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Egg, bacon, and Spam.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Spam is a Hawaiian thing, and she's from Hawaii.
                The More You Know.

                Starts gnawing on his greasy nerd head, has to try calling David or Barry to come help but they think it's some trick to get them back. Eventually just gives up and keeps her latched on like a hat.

                [...]
                I mean that's one of two, they could honestly do a more teen-focused one. Plus they all seem to still be living in Herkleton in that vision so it's entirely possible for a new series to start where that left off.
                [...]
                Oh definitely, didn't mean to make my view sound be-all end-all.

                >Starts gnawing on his greasy nerd head
                A Dark type move Super Effective against dorks.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Ashley’s from Hawaii? Also, you didn’t get that reference?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Her site says shes filipino, from hawaii.
                Tell me the reference, i'm gettiing tired.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous
              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Damn, I neven seen that before.
                So I didn't get that reference.

                Gonna sleep, don't let the thread die.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Makes sense, Monty Python is bizarre.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Becomes the sole reason any nerd that tries to take over the rock after Mark skedaddles never stays longer than a few days. Probably does a decent job tracking them too, like Bobby when he's deprived of his candy.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Probably does a decent job tracking them too
                Shes a Mud Hound.

                >CotC thread
                Reminder that Maya is best girl.
                And that she deserves to be stuffed full after a long and passionate session of lovemaking.

                >And that she deserves to be stuffed full
                That sounds good, but would she like that?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >That sounds good, but would she like that?
                I mean, I'd certainly hope so, but if she doesn't, I wouldn't mind painting her belly with some streaks of white either.

                She's definitely grown on me more than I expected her to.
                Passionate but appropriately rough when necessary, even if the tender shit probably makes her melt like a snowball in July.

                [...]
                Kek good point. Can even imagine her getting better at climbing trees and stuff to the point she's skittering around like Roger, scares the shit out of them.

                >Passionate but appropriately rough when necessary
                I imagine that after a while, Maya would ask me to be a bit more rough with her than usual, saying that while she does like the gentle approach I've been using, I don't need to treat like like she's made of glass either. "I'm a tough kid, I can take it." She says. So, I comply. We set up a safeword in case things beckme too much for her, then after some very thorough preparation (eating her out to make sure she's as wet as possible and coating mtself with some lube just to be sure) I pick her up, press her against the wall, and pound into her with abandon. We share what is porbably our second strongest orgasm to date (strongest being the first one we've ever shared) and fall asleep huddled closeunder my covers. She really is a tough kid.

                [...]
                [...]
                Maya the damn brat is built for having her head shoved into the dirt and then rough correction. Teach her it's head down ass up

                Nah, I like my approach better.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Fricking hell the typos on this one. Sorry about that fellas.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Lock her away and throw away the key.

                Starts gnawing on his greasy nerd head, has to try calling David or Barry to come help but they think it's some trick to get them back. Eventually just gives up and keeps her latched on like a hat.

                [...]
                I mean that's one of two, they could honestly do a more teen-focused one. Plus they all seem to still be living in Herkleton in that vision so it's entirely possible for a new series to start where that left off.
                [...]
                Oh definitely, didn't mean to make my view sound be-all end-all.

                Of course but still a nice thought.

                Last pic for the night.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >CRINGE
                Big talk for someone in gnawing distance.
                Nice drawing to end on, I really need to sleep.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                For sure kek, and a great one to end the night on. Feral little creature

                Tough being a sleepy boy. She got those chompers.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Preach, and that she does, nerd nibblers if you will. Nice to see another banger sketch from you, reminded me that I found fanart of a wild ship the other day.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It a bit of a touch up of an old one. That ship is wild but I support it.

                Evil mud kid is clean and hates nerd boys.
                [...]
                I found a weirder ship on Google images.

                She want prince boys and a dry creek.
                Craig doing the one thing to stop Paloma from jinxing everyone.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I like that you drew that biting idea.
                She'll find her prince charming one day.
                >Craig doing the one thing to stop Paloma
                Don't let Wildernessa find out about this.
                She's gonna sick Cheese Sticks on Paloma.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The thing was a real good idea.
                Paloma vs Wildernessa the fight of the century.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Those chompers are spooky.
                I think Wildernessa would beat Paloma

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Those chompers are spooky.
                They are something to be feared especially if you are a nerd. Yeah Wildernessa do have the instinct to take on someone in a fight.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The thing was a real good idea.
                Paloma vs Wildernessa the fight of the century.

                Thought it seemed familiar, and yeah I think the whole argument was them both claiming a royal title, plus they both smelly. Also love how gnarly her teeth look here, very in-line with the canon design.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yup, decided to line it up.Make sense since their royalty of their own respected smelly kingdom. Mud kid teeth is gremlin status.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Looks like she's gonna go Jellyfishing.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                She always ready

                Arguably makes her even more unsettling than the usual spiky teeth so it really works! And I like to think that was part of it, ruling over their empires of shit together kek. Also like your take on Eileen here, not to mention that thigh gap.

                I really made sure her teeth look deadly.One ruling above ground and another underground it perfect. Working a bit on construction on that one.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Ocean man, take me by the hand
                Lead me to the land that you understand

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Ocean man, the voyage to the corner of the globe
                Is a real trip.

                Oh believe me they do kek. I didn't even consider that, oddly fitting. Fair enough there, and adorable!

                [...]
                Just using our imaginations, anon. No harm, no foul

                Guess the ship make more sense when thinking about it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Ocean man, the crust of a tan man imbibed by the sand
                Soaking up the thirst of the land

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Ocean man, can you see through the wonder of amazement
                At the Oberman?

                I remember when people thought Mud kid was David's little sister

                The mud kid think so, personal I thought she was Mark sister for some reason.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                At the Oberman
                Ocean man, the crust is elusive when it casts forth
                To the childlike man

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Ocean man, the sequence of a life form braised in the sand
                Soaking up the thirst of the land
                Ocean man

                Damn Sewer queen got thick? Also really mark idk why just fits David better also Mark shouldn't have a younger sibling he's the embodiment of sibling abuser.

                Guess I was following the reference pose a bit too closely let just say its all the swimming.Mark from the Zine care for his ferrets so idk since its a separate thing.

                Honestly those thick thighs suit her better than I would've expected otherwise. Could buy this being either a more aged-up version of her.

                I can see it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It's my headcanon now she loves the SpongeBob Movie.
                I forgot he owned a ferret, it's in an episode.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                My headcanon that she hum ocean man to herself.
                Mark got a soft spot for certain things.

                Kek forgot to include the other bit, was going to say that could've been her canon design if the artists were braver too, but they've had their moments already.

                Oh yeah lol.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You should draw one with her hair down.
                And Marks totally big Slide the Ferret fan.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Sure. Mark did have that Slid the Ferret drink cup.

                Yeah even her sis is kind of thick despite being more generally chunky. And kek I've noticed all the Ocean Man posting, definitely suits the soundscape the series goes for.

                I forgot she has a sister.Ocean Man be hitting all the right places all I got to say.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Hey, if you’re still sketching, can you do other shows’ art styles?

                And do you have any socials?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >can you do other shows’ art styles?
                idk
                >And do you have any socials?
                nope

                Yeah. She said it in the fanzine disclaimer.
                [...]
                Thanks, looks good. This is her best look.
                Eileen's sister is probably a gamer E-Girl.

                np,she has the cat ears mic so it must be true. I guess they are playing dead by daylight.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It makes sense, must streams on Twitch.
                I forgot that this happened to Eileen too.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Elieen being crushed by a car looks funny.

                I honestly did too until I watched the episode proper, she's cute, especially with the headset. And that it does, it even occasionally pops into my head.

                I got to rewatch that episode.It has good lyrics.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Elieen being crushed by a car looks funny.
                Yeah, it is. And funny edit, it'ss well made.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I honestly did too until I watched the episode proper, she's cute, especially with the headset. And that it does, it even occasionally pops into my head.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Kelsey scales above The Squashinator.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                When she's angry anyways kek. That being said, the mental image Kelsey furiously typing how she could fold Collin like cardboard is funny.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Bloodlusted Kelsey vs The Creek.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Could imagine her going full Predator after having several close calls with the few kids that can rival her, coats herself in natural camo and picks them off one by one.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, Kelsey skills are underestimated.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Depends on the episode, sometimes she just needs to job kek.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Kelseys still the strongest of the trio.
                The first line of defense gets hurt most.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Goes for emotional damage too kek.

                [...]
                Good, now spread the word.

                I have amongst a friend group of mine, at least one or two seem genuinely interested, even if it's mostly for her.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's okay Kelsey, Omar, and Michelle jumped Maya.

                I mean even shows that were performing alright still got canned, we can only hope it sees a sort of fandom renaissance at some point.

                Maybe. But I don't think it's about views.
                I think it's just corporate restructuring.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's still one of my favorite moments from that arc kek.

                And yeah that was kind of my point, all of these show's lifespans got cut short due to a lot of shit outside of any one person's control.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >one of my favorite moments from that arc
                The Avengers assembled to beat Maya's ass.
                >got cut short due to a lot of shit outside
                Corporate is gonna do what corporates does.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Avengers assembled
                Nearly spat my drink, thanks anon.
                >Corporate is gonna do
                Painfully true, but again that's what fanworks are for.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Damn Zaslav

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Eh, I'd say if CotC remains popular there's a solid chance CN will revive it or reboot it in 5-10 years

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                We're already getting the sister spin-off

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That already released and ended production.
                It got canned with the Cartoonito block.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Such a misfire

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Damn

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What a poor lot in life

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Least the crew's having/had a good time working on it, especially Anders given he seems to be spearheading the art direction.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Damn, put that homie through the fence

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah even her sis is kind of thick despite being more generally chunky. And kek I've noticed all the Ocean Man posting, definitely suits the soundscape the series goes for.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >her sis is kind of thick

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I hope she got her remote back

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Kek forgot to include the other bit, was going to say that could've been her canon design if the artists were braver too, but they've had their moments already.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Damn Sewer queen got thick? Also really mark idk why just fits David better also Mark shouldn't have a younger sibling he's the embodiment of sibling abuser.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Mud Kid screams it's her turn on the Xbox.
                Mark gives her the unplugged controller.
                She proceeds to get mud all over it, nasty.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I feel like most of the kids, she's not mudkid at home unless we assume mark has uncaring and unavailable parents

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Maybe at home it's clay, or other messy things.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Spagetti and meatballs

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Pasta Kid, eats spaghetti with their hands.
                Then touches game controllers.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Mark smacks her for it, she cries to their mom That's one of the reasons he always has to stay at elder rock. He gets kicked out a lot, also weird they have wifi and internet at elder rock some how.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Mark smacks her for it
                Punishable by death, dead man walking.
                What really happens is, he gets mauled.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                True but mark types would do it, they are terrible to everyone

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Idk if he's a physically abusive nerd.
                He would just retreat emotionally.
                That's what he made Bernard do.
                He turned him into a unwashed NEET.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah but I knew a mark type myself, and he really was that type so maybe I headcanon him onto mark. They act very similar, he was a control freak and rich so he usually bought people back with lil gestures like once buying a whole smash college tourney pizza and drinks.

                He had a lil sis too and you could just tell, I know sibs can be annoying but she was so small and nice. She just wanted to chill with him but I also got it being the younger sib with a huge age gap as well that we tend to break and ruin shit lol.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Honestly those thick thighs suit her better than I would've expected otherwise. Could buy this being either a more aged-up version of her.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I remember when people thought Mud kid was David's little sister

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It's my headcanon.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I like the idea, wish the artist didn't just shoot it down but most of them want to frick David so i guess she couldn't let her selfinsert be his sister

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                In the zine?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                This is a page from it

                They would just have fun with characters
                [...]
                David pulling off a feral mud kid from Mark

                Her other insert runs a stand too.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I replied to the wrong post

                Bans her iPad time, its only for good mud kids.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I replied to the wrong post [...]

                that was pretty funny

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The whole thing is here

                I was stupid and posted the wrong link.
                I had to delete my other post replying.
                https://mega.nz/folder/5s4hwAbQ#X6_X_VEbpTLL7rektQ7VMQ
                [...]
                Yeah it's still here. I saved the wrong link.
                [...]
                No problem, I just like your art.

                In the mega.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks Satan

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I meant she said that the kid being David’s sister isn’t necessarily canon? Where did she say that, in the disclaimer?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah. She said it in the fanzine disclaimer.

                Sure. Mark did have that Slid the Ferret drink cup.
                [...]
                I forgot she has a sister.Ocean Man be hitting all the right places all I got to say.

                Thanks, looks good. This is her best look.
                Eileen's sister is probably a gamer E-Girl.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Oh believe me they do kek. I didn't even consider that, oddly fitting. Fair enough there, and adorable!

                >all this weird fanfic shit about Kelsey with some made up character

                Just using our imaginations, anon. No harm, no foul

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Kek

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Owns the SpongeBob DVD Box set.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Arguably makes her even more unsettling than the usual spiky teeth so it really works! And I like to think that was part of it, ruling over their empires of shit together kek. Also like your take on Eileen here, not to mention that thigh gap.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Evil mud kid is clean and hates nerd boys.

                Preach, and that she does, nerd nibblers if you will. Nice to see another banger sketch from you, reminded me that I found fanart of a wild ship the other day.

                I found a weirder ship on Google images.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                For sure kek, and a great one to end the night on. Feral little creature

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                last panel is very wholesome.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Yeah I'll get it to you once I'm home bro
                Thanks again.

                Is something the crew would make.

                [...]
                Probably use slang, Mud mound gyatt

                I'm imaginng her running around like a gremlin.
                Spouting inane phrasing at The Elders faces,
                She know they don't understand, just funny.

                Beats up mark for calling Skibiddi Toilet cringe

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Starts gnawing on his greasy nerd head, has to try calling David or Barry to come help but they think it's some trick to get them back. Eventually just gives up and keeps her latched on like a hat.

                Do they really need new kids?

                I mean that's one of two, they could honestly do a more teen-focused one. Plus they all seem to still be living in Herkleton in that vision so it's entirely possible for a new series to start where that left off.

                They would just have fun with characters
                [...]
                David pulling off a feral mud kid from Mark

                Oh definitely, didn't mean to make my view sound be-all end-all.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Is something the crew would make.

                >Funny enough I did do it but every thread was a dud
                Thank you, the threads always go up when I'm tired.
                I'll try to keep this one up, hopefully. I wanna see it.
                [...]
                She has a Mud Gyatt.
                Damn, would Creek all speak in Gen Alpha slang?

                Probably use slang, Mud mound gyatt

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Funny enough I did do it but every thread was a dud
                Thank you, the threads always go up when I'm tired.
                I'll try to keep this one up, hopefully. I wanna see it.

                np, glad you like the delivery.
                [...]
                >mudpie
                Probably more her style but cake would fit nicely still.

                She has a Mud Gyatt.
                Damn, would Creek all speak in Gen Alpha slang?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Replied to the wrong guy above kek

                Ah that based stuff nice, also yeah really though it's as people said. People made to many threads and it ruined the flow. Once a week is best not some daily thing it's why I kept missing threads.

                I also forgot that gallery lol
                [...]
                Yeah I'll get it to you once I'm home bro

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              np, glad you like the delivery.

              Was going to link the gallery that both of them were in but it seemed like the best course of action to split em up. Either way good to see you around man, missed our talks kek.
              https://files.catbox.moe/vsy10i.png
              [...]
              I could see that still happening, they've managed to bring people back together in a single ep before. Would be funny if someone takes Mark's place when/if he decides to get his shit together and moves out from under the rock.
              [...]
              Good point, and love the cake you gave her there...or is it a mudpie in this case?

              >mudpie
              Probably more her style but cake would fit nicely still.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Funny enough I did do it but every thread was a dud
              Thank you, the threads always go up when I'm tired.
              I'll try to keep this one up, hopefully. I wanna see it.
              [...]
              She has a Mud Gyatt.
              Damn, would Creek all speak in Gen Alpha slang?

              >Yeah I'll get it to you once I'm home bro
              Thanks again.
              [...]
              I'm imaginng her running around like a gremlin.
              Spouting inane phrasing at The Elders faces,
              She know they don't understand, just funny.

              Beats up mark for calling Skibiddi Toilet cringe

              Finally got back home here's the piece anon, really officially my least fave sadly. I was already tired from other thread while making it and then just idk couldn't vibe with any of them and then there were 3 of them with unique designs.

              I kind of hate them now lol, it's why I sadly couldn't bring myself to take it out the sketch phase. But hopefully you like it and them more than me. I'm really just a hater kek.

              >https://files.catbox.moe/nt125y.png

              Hell yeah, getting a better sense of how they operate as an item just gave me all sorts of ideas of how to spice things up. And hopefully we don't have a repeat of that fumble for a while.
              Kek didn't know there was one til I checked the archive really.

              [...]
              I could even see fan content like retrospectives getting a lot of views helping immensely. As for a sequel series, it'd depend on what aspect they'd want to stick with: the main cast vs the setting. Most likely outcome would be a new set of kids, but they have plenty of instances where the original stump kids give em life advice or something.

              [...]
              True, if they had complete creative control on what gets out they'd have a field day.

              Yeah I may actually do some of that because I wanted to try and draw some of the cuck kelsey idea. But I was working on the piece above and was really just out of it last thread. I really have been running on fumes even now I'm in another thread, I feel I just go from thread to thread and never take a break lol

              I definitely hope we don't have another situation like that it was really dumb. We kept telling them "hey no one wants a daily cotc thread" but either way will see.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks,for drawing my request anon, Its good.
                >I kind of hate them now lol,
                Sorry, I didn't think they'd be very hard to draw.
                >couldn't bring myself to take it out the sketch.
                I wish you did, it was coming along awesome.
                You even drew my trash can and rope ideas.
                Next time I won't request 3 different characters
                >wanted to try and draw some of the cuck kelsey
                That sounds good,, i'll post any ideas I think of .

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks, less they were hard more 3 at once who have varied designs means I had to get in a different headspace each character. Also again more just me not being a fan of their designs or remembering them in general. For my full motivation and creativity I need a level of horny and interest. So it made it hard to come up with the poses and text, so I kind of just gave up lol

                Cool sounds fun, I'll try harder next time captain

                Hopefully some much-needed RnR over the weekend helps mend those frayed nerves a bit. That being said, I'm glad you're still enthused by the idea! Just something about how Kelsey wrote Fire and Ice's relationship just screamed "break us." From the corny dialogue to their declaration of love in the face of certain doom, it was all there!

                Hopefully we don't get another inconveniently-timed release from the spinoff that throws us off-kilter.

                [...]
                Head off to one side so you can get a nice look at what this is doing to her emotionally, in addition to a nice cheek smush.

                Ha Idk why that happens not like theirs much to discuss about jessica's show anyway. Unless it has a plot and story idk about.

                Also yeah I liked those old convos on it kek, really at least kelsey specifically is a massive jobber and is easily swayed by words.

                Based cheek smush, also yeah still can get the eye contact and reaction. You can see the fear or hate in her eyes before it turns to submission/ecstasy

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It's probably just people trying to stay relevant or use it as a front for more Craig discussion. Hard to say really kek.

                I do like how she even revels in the defeat, wishing for any tussle she has to leave battle scars, even when she loses. Was definitely amazed how quickly she embraced the lesbian stuff too, so long as she thinks the other party has experience anyways. Knowing all it'd take is Collin slipping a Conan-ish novel her way or recommending a fantasy-themed cuckquean doujin to her. Just has to bring up the right things around her and the trap's set.

                Any shred of dignity she had left being left as tattered and torn as her clothing, her own body betraying her in ways even her best friends hadn't. From angered grunts to whimpering like an animal.

                >That sounds good, but would she like that?
                I mean, I'd certainly hope so, but if she doesn't, I wouldn't mind painting her belly with some streaks of white either.
                [...]
                >Passionate but appropriately rough when necessary
                I imagine that after a while, Maya would ask me to be a bit more rough with her than usual, saying that while she does like the gentle approach I've been using, I don't need to treat like like she's made of glass either. "I'm a tough kid, I can take it." She says. So, I comply. We set up a safeword in case things beckme too much for her, then after some very thorough preparation (eating her out to make sure she's as wet as possible and coating mtself with some lube just to be sure) I pick her up, press her against the wall, and pound into her with abandon. We share what is porbably our second strongest orgasm to date (strongest being the first one we've ever shared) and fall asleep huddled closeunder my covers. She really is a tough kid.
                [...]
                Nah, I like my approach better.

                Honestly I find both of your scenarios captivating. Shared violent orgasms in a more romantic setting hit hard.

                Also probably going to dip for a bit to get some sleep.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Shared violent orgasms in a more romantic setting hit hard.
                Of course. "Rough" doesn't necessarily have to mean "not passionate", after all.

                Rest well anon.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I’m sure it’s to make observations on the spin-off’s art style.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Hopefully some much-needed RnR over the weekend helps mend those frayed nerves a bit. That being said, I'm glad you're still enthused by the idea! Just something about how Kelsey wrote Fire and Ice's relationship just screamed "break us." From the corny dialogue to their declaration of love in the face of certain doom, it was all there!

                Hopefully we don't get another inconveniently-timed release from the spinoff that throws us off-kilter.

                [...]
                [...]
                Maya the damn brat is built for having her head shoved into the dirt and then rough correction. Teach her it's head down ass up

                Head off to one side so you can get a nice look at what this is doing to her emotionally, in addition to a nice cheek smush.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Was going to link the gallery that both of them were in but it seemed like the best course of action to split em up. Either way good to see you around man, missed our talks kek.
            https://files.catbox.moe/vsy10i.png

            Not sure which characters, but they might have tried getting the Elders to reconcile. I personally would have liked to see a Stump Trio triple date episode.

            I could see that still happening, they've managed to bring people back together in a single ep before. Would be funny if someone takes Mark's place when/if he decides to get his shit together and moves out from under the rock.

            >Mudkip, because funny.
            sure
            [...]
            It helps keep pics less static. I love the mud field pics.

            Good point, and love the cake you gave her there...or is it a mudpie in this case?

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    anybody have a mega for the whole show?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I hope the one anon who's been providing the episodes comes back with an updated mega(if it even exist anymore) I have them all but some of S5 have the CN logo and that triggers my autism.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I swear this was getting some kind of game, I remember seeing some art of them as fantasy grownups. You know craig being buff while in the same clothes or something like that

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ben Anders is posting some Jessica's Big Little World concept art on twitter

    https://twitter.com/benfo/status/1750989320453001259

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Would be nice to get a big Craig of the Creek/Jessica art book someday with all of his work for the shows collected in it

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Who's the lady on the couch?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Nicole

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No the other lady. The one with the yellow in her hair

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Oh. idk

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I mean, this is concept art. She might not even appear, especially considering the show was cut short.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The premiere of the movie on Saturday, January 13 only got 95,000 viewers, is it over Creekbros?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >, is it over Creekbros?
      It's been over, were waiting for it to end.

      I do really like that pic too, sure I can draw more of her.

      Draw her with a Mudkip, because funny.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Mudkip, because funny.
        sure

        I'd say that works for the most part, glad you're keeping things varied. Also still love that pic kek.
        [...]
        Oh no I figured that, I meant more what sort of SOL eps, like if we're going to see more focused on specific characters before we're left to our own devices for the forseeable future.
        >if CN decides to revive the show
        Given most of the crew we're familiar with's flown the coop, not sure if a revival would work. I could be wrong though!

        It helps keep pics less static. I love the mud field pics.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It came out via Max and through dvd release first prior the tv premieres. I wonder if anyone bothered pirating it before it got released to any of these i listed, like how the sandy cheeks movie was fully leaked and released.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No, the DVD release will come in March.

        See, this is why you gotta watch them and tell people about it. ‘Molly McGee’ died because of a lack of views in the proper channels.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah word of mouth has more power than a lot of people think, especially nowadays where feedback's king.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I hope rewatching it could lead to a revival. Or at least a sequel series (maybe with them as teenagers?).

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Cable is dead and the show is dead so ratings don't matter. It's not like they were gonna decide if a second movie gets made or anything. At most, maybe it would influence if the Jessica spinoff gets a season 2, but that's a hard maybe

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What about streaming? Does CN care about streaming still?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I don't think the streaming numbers have been mindblowing either. Max has a Top 10 Movies chart on their home page that shows what the most watched films are and I haven't seen Craig Before the Creek pop up on it once. For comparison's sake, every direct-to-video WB movie that's been added to Max in the past couple of months (Justice League Warworld, Scooby-Doo Meets Krypto, Mortal Kombat Legends: Cage Match) has cracked that chart, CBtC is the only one that hasn't

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Well, looks like it’s time to ask people to watch it.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It isn't equally the same as to how Disney does it with their top 20 most watched shows, which they won't show the actual numbers of viewership, but only the ones that accumulates the #'s position they hold upon based on hidden numbers of said viewership. For WB/Max, it's difficult as they don't promote anything from CN unless they trend from something else.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What happened to the elders? Did they ever make up?
    Did Craig ever reconnect with that home schooled girl?
    Did Bernard and his girlfriend get back together?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >What happened to the elders? Did they ever make up?
      They broke up. I don’t know.
      >Did Craig ever reconnect with that home schooled girl?
      No.
      >Did Bernard and his girlfriend get back together?
      Yes.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >They broke up. I don’t know.
        So they just dropped it? That sucks.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Again, I don’t know. The show got canceled in Season 5. It seemed like if they continued, they might have done it. But a permanent falling out would have worked too.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >What happened to the elders? Did they ever make up?
      They broke up. I don’t know.
      >Did Craig ever reconnect with that home schooled girl?
      No.
      >Did Bernard and his girlfriend get back together?
      Yes.

      >Did Bernard and his girlfriend get back together?
      I haven't watched a lot of this show. Why did it happen? What made them get back together?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You just have to watch the show.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The Heart of The Forest/ puzzle map was weak

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >CotC thread
    Reminder that Maya is best girl.
    And that she deserves to be stuffed full after a long and passionate session of lovemaking.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      She's definitely grown on me more than I expected her to.
      Passionate but appropriately rough when necessary, even if the tender shit probably makes her melt like a snowball in July.

      >Probably does a decent job tracking them too
      Shes a Mud Hound.
      [...]
      >And that she deserves to be stuffed full
      That sounds good, but would she like that?

      Kek good point. Can even imagine her getting better at climbing trees and stuff to the point she's skittering around like Roger, scares the shit out of them.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Probably does a decent job tracking them too
      Shes a Mud Hound.
      [...]
      >And that she deserves to be stuffed full
      That sounds good, but would she like that?

      She's definitely grown on me more than I expected her to.
      Passionate but appropriately rough when necessary, even if the tender shit probably makes her melt like a snowball in July.

      [...]
      Kek good point. Can even imagine her getting better at climbing trees and stuff to the point she's skittering around like Roger, scares the shit out of them.

      Maya the damn brat is built for having her head shoved into the dirt and then rough correction. Teach her it's head down ass up

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >built for having her head shoved into the dirt
        I agree, Maya deserves it for being so rude.
        >more just me not being a fan of their designs
        I get it now, Well I have an idea for Turner.
        How about drawing a parody of this image:
        https://files.catbox.moe/kgc9vp.png
        >Based cheek smush, eye contact and reaction
        I love all these things, it's the best thing ever.

        >That sounds good, but would she like that?
        I mean, I'd certainly hope so, but if she doesn't, I wouldn't mind painting her belly with some streaks of white either.
        [...]
        >Passionate but appropriately rough when necessary
        I imagine that after a while, Maya would ask me to be a bit more rough with her than usual, saying that while she does like the gentle approach I've been using, I don't need to treat like like she's made of glass either. "I'm a tough kid, I can take it." She says. So, I comply. We set up a safeword in case things beckme too much for her, then after some very thorough preparation (eating her out to make sure she's as wet as possible and coating mtself with some lube just to be sure) I pick her up, press her against the wall, and pound into her with abandon. We share what is porbably our second strongest orgasm to date (strongest being the first one we've ever shared) and fall asleep huddled closeunder my covers. She really is a tough kid.
        [...]
        Nah, I like my approach better.

        >Painting her belly with some streaks of white either.
        That would give Maya something to pout about.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >That would give Maya something to pout about.
          Not a problem. She's cute when she pounts. And besides, it's nothing some cuddling and a few kisses can't fix, and afterwards I'd scoop her up and carry her to the shower so we can both wash up.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yep she's a really bad girl needing correction.

          Oh I remember you mentioning this before, I do like turner I'll see what I can do no promises.

          It's probably just people trying to stay relevant or use it as a front for more Craig discussion. Hard to say really kek.

          I do like how she even revels in the defeat, wishing for any tussle she has to leave battle scars, even when she loses. Was definitely amazed how quickly she embraced the lesbian stuff too, so long as she thinks the other party has experience anyways. Knowing all it'd take is Collin slipping a Conan-ish novel her way or recommending a fantasy-themed cuckquean doujin to her. Just has to bring up the right things around her and the trap's set.

          Any shred of dignity she had left being left as tattered and torn as her clothing, her own body betraying her in ways even her best friends hadn't. From angered grunts to whimpering like an animal.

          [...]
          Honestly I find both of your scenarios captivating. Shared violent orgasms in a more romantic setting hit hard.

          Also probably going to dip for a bit to get some sleep.

          Heh oh you finally watched the ep I see? But yeah Kelsey may have a bit of a fetish

          Kek I thought it was more based on her own foolish delve into the wrong side of heroine stories. Since most go down the wrong path, I can't remember how it went before actually. But yeah she more traps herself and more brings out Collin's inner dom, which plays off her awakening maso.

          Sounds hot asf, the idea she stops going in the way of cuckqueaning and more into heroine in peril sounds funny as well. Or maybe it goes down that one other path we talked last thread

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Actually managed to clear through the series before the end of the month, and yup she's a literal sucker for punishment til the very end. Even her taking wrestling classes felt masturbatory kek.

            Looking through the archive yeah, it was Kels trying to compartmentalize all of her comflicting feelings about Stacks and Collin. Does end the same way, with the both of them feeding into each other's twisted little desires, getting molded into the ideal components for their own fantasies. Could even see Stacks' hesitation with a third party getting involved shifting a bit after has her own moment, seems to love the introduction of "tragedy" quite a bit going off the library Halloween ep.

            Ah that last bit was meant for Maya but honestly it suits Kelsey just as well. Could even see it being borne out of a disagreement that turned violent, before transitioning into passionate lovemaking...all while Stacks is trying to message her.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Kelsey continues her jobber streak even there lol, also you aren't wrong a lesbian doing wrestling is like a gay guy. It's a bit sus it's like all that mixed wrestling porn online, but it's not enough for kelsey they aren't rough enough and don't stimulate her enough. Kelsey would love stuff like ultimate surrender

              True stacks being weirded out by both kelsey and Collin sounds fun. She's slowly being pushed and pulled by both sides, she thinks it's collin blackmailing and manipulating kelsey. Maybe thinking it's the rare subversion when the princess/damsel saves the hero/knight then she finds a beaten and disheveled Kelsey with torn clothes. Moaning and mewing as Collin stomps and grinds his shoe into her exposed groin, she's orgasming over and over as he abuses her and calls her names. That's when Stacks realizes what kelsey really is and who she'd rather be with on the winning team.

              Oh also no lovemaking, just breeding kelsey has no say she's just a tool and she loves it.

              I remember seeing this, it's good art
              [...]
              >I do like turner I'll see what I can do
              I hope you draw it, it's a good idea.

              Yeah the twins are kind of new faves.

              I might idk I'm kind of been thinking of doing the Kelsey idea, just thinking how to do it. Also in other threads so I don't like promising when I'm stretched thin

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I thought Kelsey was your biggest fave.
                What threads are they any good?
                It's okay if you don't draw my Turner idea
                I'd like to see any Kelsey drawings too.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                She is

                I mean I think so, but they are all over anon. I don't just do stuff in Cinemaphile lol

                Thanks I'll see what I'll do

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                She absolutely, even with an adventage like a low center of gravity or unexpected gymnastic abilities. Yeah they're much too respectful to their opponent, she needs something where the weakness of the loser is fully exploited. First I've heard of it but that'd definitely be up her alley.

                That works way too well, wants to give her friend the motivation to overcome these insurmountable odds until she realizes Kelsey has not only accepted her defeat, but welcomed it with open arms...or legs, as it were. I can imagine Kelsey trying to call out to her, wanting to explain but she's too enthralled by Collin's abuse to get anything beyond her name out. She'd probably experience a really violent orgasm as she sees Stacks moving to his side, probably managing to get out a "no" before her hips buck into his shoe, like her sober mind's last cry in protest before she's accepted her place.

                Good point, probably takes her in ways where he can avoid eye contact as much as possible. When they're both like this, she's nothing but a piece of meat to him.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                She does have that, but I think her gymnastics are gone she's to stumpy. Also yeah she wants to be humiliated and pinning meaning she'll be groped and squeezed bruised and forced and grinded against. I'm sorry I have lead you down a bad path like me making you look up my sins.

                Actually in my head Collin planned it to show what she truly was but Kelsey was blindfolded. It adds to the tragedy she won't know why suddenly stack distances herself to her and stops constantly messaging her or leaving her on read a reverse of before. but the idea of her trying to explain but rathering being further abused sounds hotter. Also that end part is peak though

                I feel similar to what you said before about the side smush face, he wants to see her expression. I think he wants eye contact but it's about the mindset, like I'd even imagine he'd be cool with kissing but it's no love all about the thought of her being his property(he obviously says this as well lol).

                I really need to think of a idea for a sketch of this, I can't do all of it of course lol. I don't want to kill myself trying to do a full comic at my current level but I need something but to many different options but a lot feels it'll be out of my skill range and it'll sour me to the idea. But I enjoy it so much

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                True, part of her athleticism was that she was a half-pint, now she's just built like a little tank. Probably gropes herself in sync with some of the footage, picturing any number of people inflicting all that sweet pain on her. It's all good kek, knowledge is power when it comes to this.

                I think that's a solid idea too honestly, taking things out of her control in a more subtle manner, her imagination going wild wondering why Stacks has become so distant. Yeah that was my favorite part to write, whatever bit of remorse she might've had getting snuffed out by her addiction to punishment. Can imagine Stacks looking dejected when everything's laid bare, lowers her head to give off that "shadow over the eyes" look they use in the show occasionally as he drapes his arm over her shoulder.

                Aye that's fair, staring her down the same way a higher-caste wolf would with his subordinate. He'd probably lean in as close as he can when he's close, and calls her his "spoils" and she ends up climaxing right as he blows inside of her.

                Thought about it a bit, you could have the pic be focused on a specific moment rather than the whole sequence. Maybe that moment of discovery from Stacks' POV or slightly over her shoulder, get a nice view of them caught in the act and her reaction.

                would she be a good wrestler?

                She did have Maya as her coach so she has a fighting chance.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Really being built like a tank doesn't work to well for girl, but also still pretty small. Ha good to hear but yeah that was a classic I started watching that shit back when I was a kid actually crazy. Ok that actually sounds hot asf she still can't get enough needs it to be more degrading and rougher

                He truly has made himself the COTC Collin of the Cheeks. It sounds about right and depressing I can see stacks being broken by this seeing what she's really like. Also seeing as the path kelsey went down she'd definitely cause the fall of her relationship completely unintentionally. I like the idea of it becoming the reverse then where kelsey tries to fight her urges to be normal with stacks again becomes less into it but now her inner sub is awakened and she is broken and so is her trust with stacks.

                Kelsey would appreciate the wolf analogy, girls like her have a wolf or two in there books. I also always enjoy kelsey more than stacks so the idea of him just using stacks to get the real spoils kelsey is fun. A girl that is the man of a lesbian relationship being broken into your woman is weirdly hot. Also fits the whole wolf analogy, she tried to be the alpha wolf and have her own mate but a true alpha arrived and converted her to her true spot as a beta and another broodmare

                Interesting I feel that's not the part I'd want to do though. I feel i'd do something more early on maybe then one day put these all together into a green like a visual novel with a few images for random parts lol. Idk which part I want to draw first plus I'd need to think of how to frame it.

                I think even maya can't fix her jobbing syndrome, Also in reality her build isn't that great for wrestling short and plump

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah she's basically built like a stocky teenage boy despite being a grown adult in that scenario. She'll always be "little big kid" to those who know her well enough kek. I can certainly see it had some long-reaching effects, probably one of the better kinks to latch onto. Exactly, all of this is vanilla stuff with no context, she definitely strikes me as the type that'd want a decent story with her smut.

                Lmao, carving out his own place in creek history one girl at a time. Seeing the real reason her gf has been ghosting her, realizing she let those desires take precedence over their bond. It's quite the shift from her usual immediate jobbing, not to mention it's technically self-inflicted. And yeah there's definitely some room for expansion there, with her trying to break things off with Collin, only for the monster she created to come out in full force, reminding her of what she has to lose.

                Good point, lot of bookish girls seem to fixate on wolves quite a bit, sane reason as horses I assume. Yeah Kels is the focal point of this stuff for me too, Stacks is just there for extra suffering lol. Hit the nail on the head with the butch lesbian conversion stuff, could even see her hair falling out of a bun being a reflection of that. No longer is she some badass alpha warrior, she's been usurped by someone more worthy of that title, probably as her former lover watches, eager for her turn despite her reservations.

                I do like that idea a bit better yeah, something that gives you a proper visual for some of the saucier bits. And that's fair, composition can be a bit tricky in these cases.

                Kek good point, probably does well against training dummies or gym bros that want to give her a win, but the second a real threat pops in she's done for.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                That she is, also she'll be known that way to anyone that sees her or as the "womanlet". True best type I suppose. Also yeah I feel it at least needs theatrics, She needs the domination and darker side of things to really kick it up a notch

                The boys at the Creek wonder where the girls have all gone. He did it he made the perfect creek harem lol. But yeah back to the plot she definitely would be in a fricked up situation of her own making. I like to imagine she really is too awakened as a sub and as you said Collin would have been incentivized to go further and get worse himself. So he wouldn't want to ruin his fun especially if my idea of his real prize being Kelsey is the thing.

                Yeah true stacks is funny enough like she was before in the background she exist as a plot device like a real damsel. She is just prelude to the true body of text. She exist to be their for extra lewd and cuckqueaning for kelsey. I do love me my tomboy feminization ideas as well, fully broken bad end Kelsey cuck sounds fun. I feel it is different girls like horses.............because of wiener i guess I never got girls and horses really. But wolves is just all young writers really, their are just tons of wolf metaphors and they literally embody a lot of things like the wild, ferocity, power dynamics etc.It's why they are seen as cringe sometimes because they have been over played

                Yeah Idk if I'll go that route was just saying it, but I do want to think of a good one

                Yep and I know she's that type that thinks she can beat anyone with wrestling, or no matter the weight classes dif or different styles. I remember tons of guys like that and they'd get obliterated kelseys definitely one of them
                >Kelsey:Why is their boss music playing?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                True, could even see her trying to own it to take away the power it gives to her peers, but it ends up looking more like self deprecation. Kek, up there I think. And she'd definitely need something closer to straight-up ryona, would be funny seeing her opinions on bruising changing as she gets older. Goes from hating that it won't leave a mark to liking the feeling a bit too much.

                Kek, living a dream none of the creek boys would even dare to consider. And that's exactly it, he's not going to just abandon a good thing because she suddenly grew a conscience, and she's in too deep to really question him without getting a bit wet at his verbal b***hslaps. The idea's definitely grown on me, speaking a "love language" she can understand.

                Good point, she was almost like lesbian window dressing for our little gremlin, and now she'll just make this shift all the more potent. Yeah helps that she's usually the most feminine at her lowest points in the show, like picrel after getting her ass kicked my Maya at the end of CtF...or maybe I just like strong girls with their hair down kek. It's probably the preppy analogue to wolves, given they're associated with pageantry and girly shit like that. And yeah that makes sense, it's pretty common, even Maney was an unironic wolf girl before she became a horse girl.

                Hm, maybe something will come to you in do time, having that emotional motivation's half the battle.

                Kek, the epitome of "I can beat you because my X is superior" like she's in an ttrpg. No amount of grinding's going to help here though.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Poor Kelsey just can't win lol. Kelsey gets this weird look in her eyes anytime her opponent slams her or grabs her hard enough it'll leave a bruise. She has a strange mix between desire and ecstasy. She loves the feeling of the bruises she likes running her fingers along them as she relives the matches and listens to degradation and defeat audio. God forbid she learns about Ryona

                Poor girl, and you are right this is a monster of her own making. She can't just turn this off it's already begun and I feel the b***h slap may not be so verbal kek. She definitely has a unique "love language" and he won't let her give it up easily.

                Jesus maney get your shit together lol, but yeah wolves are cool but people make them cringe. I always loved learning they are like a frick ton bigger than you think. Also yeah long hair and strong girl is peak but sadly now it's not allowed in a most stuff, short hair is cool too but the mix of feminine and masculine is weirdly hot. She's strong but still all woman lol. Kelsey secretly getting her hair down is exciting to her, it becomes pavlovian. She thinks it's cool in anime and makes her cool, so she associates it with excitement and pleasure as it makes her badass kek.

                True I think I have a desire but I'm too dumb, if you've got a good one shoot.

                I like how that mentality is how this idea came to be lowkey.
                >Kelsey: I have the power of love on my side
                >*kelsey gets one shotted, in front of stacks*
                >*Has to watch as she's taken over and over in front of her*

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Guess JP was right, it ain't easy being the comic relief kek. Perfect, probably baring her teeth as she winces in pain but you can still tell there's giddiness underneath. And yeah, every twinge of pain reminding her that everyone in the gym saw it, didn't even consider her using audio either. Breathing probably gets all ragged as she gets close just from that alone. Brain would turn to horny mush if she was ever exposed to that.

                Alternatively it's a twisted work of art that she doesn't want to show the world. Either way yeah this is much bigger than her now, and like countless opponents before this she'll job. Hard. And good point, not like he has any reason to go easy on her even in less fetishy situations, has to keep her in line like his internet "mentors" told him.

                If it's any consolation she's definitely more suited to being a horse gal. Lot of people tend to forget that, it's especially apparent when they're next to big breeds of dog. That's exactly it, like you've cracked through that tough pseudo-masculine exterior to reveal the sensitive girl underneath, best example I can think of is Adora from the She-Ra reboot. I like that, originally something that's meant to evoke power in her mind, only for it to transition into a sign of submission.

                Only thing that comes to mind is something kind of like picrel, albeit just two panels. Closeup of Collin holding her chin and forcing her to look him in the eyes like a bonafide villain with the second panel being what you described earlier, closeup of him stomping right on her pussy where you can see some wetness starting to form. Good mix of intimacy and defeat on her part I think.

                Yeah that idealized depiction of female protagonists, that squeaky-clean view of romance, feels ripe for a "wakeup call" of sorts. That green captured that energy perfectly.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                To bad JP isn't funny lol. She remembers everyone's disappointed faces, she was really close that time too she was all they needed to win the big meet. She feels bad she's using her teams heartache for her disgusting fetish but it just makes it better and easier for her to slip into her subspace. She definitely listens to hypno/mind break audio stuff. It's the only thing that gets it right, she luckily found the perfect audio series "Defeated and enslaved heroine compliation". Perfect it has male and female villians just for her.

                "Just give em a good smack" kek, but yeah he has been further indoctrinated by Cinemaphile and by her acceptances. All the rape fantasy schizo stuff was real he now is invincible. He'd never give that up and definitely not knowing she loves it and all her secrets she's the prize the final challenger and destined for him. it'd be a waste of all his...no their hard work

                True wolves are big asf only like one breed is even close to average dog size the rest are huge most of those wolf hunting dogs are usually smaller than a full grown apex wolf, they just are able to fight them off not even kill usually. Yep though, you hit it on the head mix of both makes it super cute and sexy, [spoiler]it's why I'm a weird outlier that loves muscle girl submission never been into muscle mommydom stuf Ha sounds like a more based version of that show, I feel like most of the characters she looks much better in fan art and I'd love to hear more about that idea actual, sounds like something straight out of the dyke correction nu-ra threads kek. But in the end peak strong girl is a mix of it all which sucks we get the design but not the personality to entice now.[/spoiler]

                Hmm sounds really good actually maybe I could circumvent some stuff with zoom in shots interesting idea actually.

                Need a new name for this, it'd be perfect for porn. I see a genre of plucky happy go lucky heroine gets broken in

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Kek fair enough, I find him kinda funny because he reminds me of myself at that age. Bet those almost-wins sting the worst but feel the best when she can just pile up in her room and enjoy her shame. Would probably be in a hurry to get home if Stacks were there alongside her team, and then she later tries to call her and tell her it's okay if she fails sometimes, only for her to have been interrupting her private time. Kek, now picturing her doing all those hammy motions with her free hand as she flicks the bean with the other. Which audio she prefers probably just depends on how badly she got her ass handed to her in the ring.

                Yeah he sees himself as their "champion" at that point, bet he even posts their audio there when they call him a liar and a gay. He knows he just has to double down whenever she starts having second thoughts, she gave him power over her and like hell is he going to give it back so easily.

                Yeah think it's the borzoi, were mostly bred to go toe-to-toe with them, pretty big but look like puppies compared to the big guys. It's a very underappreciated aspect of strong gals, same goes for that musclesub angle. That's definitely fair, though I think Adora and maybe Catra are the sole exception when it comes to the show's style. Glad you liked that, just kind of winged it though I'll admit I've been very into toying with female character elements for a while now. Least we're making the most of what we were given here.

                Yeah had a feeling that'd help things along, plus it's focusing on what everyone came here for.

                Hard to really pin it down, definitely feels like something that should have one already though.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Ha you sounds hilarious actually, I was way to overly serious as a kid myself I kind of can't relate to shows like this sadly. I feel for her she's going for the win too but she's just a jobber sadly. She does at least get a reward so she doesn't get that down lol. I imagine she answers the phone a bit annoyed at stacks, stacks thinks it's because she's sad or angry about the loss but we know why. She's the type to be super expressive during her orgasms and build ups fit for a theater kid like Kelsey. She picks the most degrading audio only when something really bad happens, it's all degrading in the end though.

                I can see a group of Cinemaphileners enjoying the audio of a shota correcting a dyke e-girl so sounds about right. Also I see him definitely posting proof while trying not to dox himself knowing Cinemaphile, he knows he's the chaddest one in those threads. He will never do that it's intoxicating and I imagine the Cinemaphileners tell him that's the way it's supposed to be woman being under his power. He's sadly being pulled all in one direction he won't let her have a second chance. [spoiler]Why
                does he sound like the victim in this now kek
                [/spoiler]

                Yeah isn't that the bear hunting dog? which I feel name wise is insane no dog can do anything to a bear alone even in a group wolves take tons of effort to kill a bear lol. Yep strong gals are really good and yeah love me musclesub girl vibes especially with the long hair it just works. You aren't wrong they both can work just off the base style but still fanart can improve them both, I do think Adora has potential but her she ra form needs a redesign. I'd also agree fans tend to fix this stuff in our own way, fans do fixes as need be.

                Yep really thinking of how to frame it all now.

                I mean defeated exist but that's more heroine defeat as a whole. Maybe heroine correction...bad end?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Kek why thank you, and that's fair I guess, there's probably at least one kid out of all of them you can relate to. She'd always puts up a genuine effort, but at the very least she's getting a ton of consolation prizes all over her body. Bet she even has moments of self-doubt, wonders if she really did give it her all or not or if she's letting her desires come first. She'd definitely be quite short with her, just enough for Stacks to get that it's a bad time, even if she couldn't fathom what was really going on. Probably monologuing about the warrior in training that can't even make it out past friendly sparring partners. Can already see her biting her lip as she goes for an "ol reliable" after an overenthusiatic guy goes up against her earlier that day: beefy demon lord making this heroine his slave.

                Never reveals his age but they'd catch on quick. Doubt they'd nuke the thread (even if they do try to find more about him online), it's probably the best stuff they've heard in ages and they'd worship him like a god for it. Being molded into the unrealistic ideal of two very different groups/people for very different reasons, and it's working way too well.
                And it's all about perception, one man's tragedy is another's triumph.

                Seems that's a different breed, the borzoi's listed as a wolf and fox hunter. Hopefully that aspect gets more love at some point in the future, maybe a subversion-happy creator makes something unintentionally up our alleys, and yeah flowing hair's a must. Totally fair there, her alt form was very bland, not to mention trying too hard to be androgynous. It's what we do best, salvage what works and nix the rest.

                Hopefully inspiration strikes you there soon.

                "Fallen Heroine" seems like the best fit without laying things on too thick. "Mary-sue gets a clue" came to mind too but that's a bit too goofy.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Nearly reached the character limit with that one kek.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I relate more to Fillmore type characters or camp camp, butthole poor kids or uncaring or rarely around parents. Which is kind of peak kid freedom at times. Looking at her design fully she really is not built for it no matter how hard she tries her oponnents would have better reach and superior strength as they are all muscle and not flab like her kek. She would get tons of bruises as well because they'd have more to grab and fat is looser and weaker than hardened tight muscle so it bruises and sores easier. But as you said at least she gets a consolation prize or two, her being doubtful and a bit ashamed is peak. How can one be ashamed when you have a humiliation fetish lol, also her being short with stacks and her thinking it's just her being a bit sad not fathoming the true insanity. The idea she makes a schizo au fic in her head is hilarious Imagine she remembers the guys print and at some point it was against her face, she writes like two paragraphs about intoxicating aroma breaking the heroine's mind lol

                He has become what they all wanted to be *insert madara line*, I like the idea of this he has become something entirely new. heh once he defeats kelsey the line that breaks her full as she pleads him to reconsider before it's too late is something along the lines of "The strong have no time to worry about the needs of the weak"

                That it is fans make do, also tend to get obsessive about random or meaningless characters lol. I do agree maybe one day I think it'll come from the east they are adding more muscle girl waifus. I do get tired of the androgynous females we get so much now. I probably do have the name wrong just know a dog is named the bear hunting dog kek.

                Hopefully sadly got family coming over so I'll have to draw it tonight

                Someone should make that fic or dumb nsfw comic. Love that name but that fits more just for annoying fmc series we get a lot now. Both work but latter is best

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Ah that makes sense, can see bits of them in your manner of speaking, especially from the previous threads. All that flab with little to no ab (or anything else) makes her the ideal punching bag I'm sure, to the point some of the guys feel guilty for taking her up on a challenge. And yeah it fit like a glove, each failed match probably feels better and better but also makes her second-guess herself all the more. That's the beauty of human nature kek, I've seen it a few times on here so she'll find a way. Probably idly touching herself too just to keep the momentum there when Stacks hangs up. Her literal headcanon au probably elevates any scenario it gets paired with knowing her, little self-inserter. That's really hot too, helps she probably makes her OCs magically well-kept despite being athletic warriors, the perfect counter to a more primal rival who'll literally rub her face in her own defeat.

                Kek that works, and exactly we're pretty much seeing the final stages of his little metamorphosis. God that sounds appropriately grandiose, straight out of a novel Kelsey would read...for all we know it is, and that makes it hit all the harder.

                Very true, was in the thick of another fandom where they obsessed over background cuties in the first season and it only got "worse" afterwards. Good point, they do tend to corner whatever market they tap into kek, so it's a matter of time. Yeah it feels like they repurposed some iffier designs from yesteryear with a new coat of paint, and a lot of people are catching on. Kek yeah it seems there was, best guess is it just keeps the bear occupied long enough for their master to get a shot or two in.

                It's totally fine, have to prioritize when it comes to this stuff.

                If I wasn't worried I'd go overboard on the setting itself I'd try my hand at it kek. And that's fair, think I had shit like Owl House in mind so it works, also the rhyme really sells it I think lmao.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Ha idk if that's a good thing or not, but yeah the closest to my childhood was that late night tag episode. She would too but they wouldn't feel so bad as knowing kelsey she'd be so confident and wienery about it kelsey is made for belly punches. Poor girl she gets a win and a loss everytime I think she would feel bad as she wants to win and help her team. All her beauty comes out when she's beaten I now want to see the other times on here lol. Ha well now I see that she makes herself a well groomed heroine so when she's defeated and in torn clothes it's all the more humiliating and Also see her being that type that fantasizes a situation like the francine one she imagines her female opponent comes back and gets her when she's alone in the showers. She's definitely a self inserter so she will have tons of totally not her ocs

                He says it as he finally deflowers kelsey making it have all the more finality, he is one of those villians that is made by the mc. He has awakened into his final form and is the character the writer can't kill without plot bs

                Yeah I've seen it, I unintentially just did that with like 2 characters now they have threads about every month or so. But yeah it's because usually the main characters suck a lot of the time like how people ship charlie with emily from Hazbin, because vaggie has no personality. Yeah I don't even hate the designs everytime even though most suck but it's usually unlikeable or bland personality. Yeah poor doggos we need to train wolves again see it all circles back

                Ha I'd prefer to draw than ever deal with family bro

                I mean I wouldn't mind reading a good toh "mary sue gets a clue" fic just maybe make it a pastebin, I do tons of nsfw for practice but my main goal is to make my own comics and I had a mc a lot like TOH but she gets a clue a lot til the plot saves her

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Kek no worries I was just stating it, everybody's different, and yeah that sounds about right going off what you said earlier. True, they'd quickly get over what little remorse they had when she's asking for it like that. Yeah she knows she's more or less ruining their chances of going professional, be it due to her own shortcomings or her cravings, probably wonders if they'd jump her if they were to find out. Best stuff is easily her getting creamed by Maya, right down to the buises and loose hair. Stripped of her armor and her dignity in one fell swoop lol, poor thing can't catch a break. Can definitely see that too, even in a scenario where she wins she's just focused on the defeat that comes after. All of them are varying degrees of obvious, though that's part of the charm.

                Punctuates that line by sticking it right in, like a dagger through her heart and red hot pleasure in her loins. Probably stifles her breathing before it comes back more ragged than before. Ends more like a real fairy tale, complete with tragedy.

                Kek, laying the groundwork for future waifugays. You wonder if it's intentional at a certain point with how prevalent it is, like maybe they wanted it to be easy to project onto and it ended up being too basic for anyone to latch onto. Lmao time being a flat circle again.

                Kek fair enough there, not really around family enough to get tired of them.

                I'd need to actually watch the show I think, though I do have an AO3 account at least. A noble goal honestly, and I'd say you're making decent progress to that end with these fulfilled reqs. Sounds cute, and that works, least she experienced what it was like at the bottom.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Well thanks I guess, I don't remember stuff I say often lol. When she's just begging for it or being wienery it makes you want to just go for it. Actually they'd probably be fine in fact a bad player makes you stand out more especially when it comes to your recorded wins and efforts in getting you team on the map. But yeah those damn cravings are going to ruin the poor girl. then she fantasizes about her all female team jumping her in the showers cut to reality it's all of them being friendly and supportive. To be fair Maya is like the Gojo of COTC she fought robots and a whole army and named characters in a beat em up fight then had to get jumped by her two rivals and a teen of course kelsey gets obliterated by her. A artist on twitter made me realize I think a new fetish coming to the west is the Jobber fetish, and Kelsey is perfect for it. The idea of her being so obsessed with the thought of her "armor" being stripped and her dignity is both hot and ironic.

                Ha she has the best climax of her life, it just hits different. Also you truly awakened your inner kelsey with this one anon. She would love and narrate every moment, or worse he does imagine she tries to fight it and doesn't even want to narrate it but he does the monologue and narration for her.

                Sadly with how it is, definitely not that. also they really don't make it easy fans strip away miles of trash to find the gem and still needs a lot of polish. Like Ruby Gillman, most of the threads were hoping and coping and writing fics and finding concept art to make more ideas and copes for how it could've been good

                Neither do I yet here I stand.

                Oh yeah give it a try. Thanks I do appreciate even if it'll never happen lol. Also really it's a series where she's called out for her wish fulfillment, her opponent is literally gojoesque and would be the mc in a different series so she's kind of fricked 9 times out of 10.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah you're all good, that still sounded kinda mean on my part. Just meant about kids being left to their own devices being peak sometimes.I'll admit the thought of going in for the gut after hearing her shittalk a bit's enticing. Kek that's a good point, could see her trying to rationalize her poor performance with that, even if it just makes her wonder if she's self-sabotaging even more. Kek thinks they'd turn on her if they knew "the truth" about it all. True, it's just the best example of Kels overestimating her abilities, even if she does continue to get up and brace for another hit. I'd say that's accurate, been a long time coming at this point, now whether or not it goes "mainstream" is beyond me. She's always viewed herself as strong and capable thanks to her upbringing, makes sense she'd have that forbidden desire to have it torn away.

                Absolutely, like reality came crashing down on her all at once in the best possible way. Lmao thanks, just felt perfect for her y'know. Also love that too, literally wrenching the narrative out of her hands, telling her exactly what she feels, and the worst part to her is he isn't wrong.

                Kek what a shame, but it's Cinemaphile why wouldn't it end up like that. And good point, trying to bail water out of a ship that sank a while ago, but hey at least we got some decent fanworks out of it, better than being outright forgotten.

                Kek, more power to you there then, anon.

                I might now that CotC kind of softened me on trying new shows again. Never say never anon, even a little refinement a day adds up. That's deliciously specific, especially the "real" protag showing up given the kind of irreverence these shows dish out to male heroes.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Nah it's good I genuinely just say stuff so idk what you were referencing, also yeah true better than the latter options. Firstly should have called the file yourwashedupkels lol, but yeah it would be enticing be the "L'appel du Vide". The intrusive thought people have and kelsey gives into. I feel she knows she's giving it her all their are tons of people that never win a single match, wrestling isn't like basketball it's a solo sport so it's win or lose. But I could see her feeling bad if she always loses, yeah really they'd be more disgusted and weirded out not her fantasy of them doing "things" to her. Also yeah she does very much overestimate her abilities greatly, she probably thinks she's ready for insurmountable opponents. I think it just might we've been getting a lot of cringefail waifus recently, once who's lifes are just pathetic and can't handle anything like tomoko of ages of long ago. Her dad raised her to be strong and she still is a bottom where did he go wrong kek.

                Poor girl it's like when the narrator is the enemy so you must break free of his control in a game, he's breaking Kelsey's last life line and sense of control. Ok kind of like the idea of that the idea of now he even controls how she feels lol

                Yep true, and tons of great greens. I feel Cinemaphile needs to do some project together but alas were mostly all buttholes we can't come together lol. But yeah really it's fine to just let it sink then build a new smaller ship from the remains like the gillman bros did.

                Thank you but I know I'll draw tons tonight and tommorow hopefully it's the kelsey thing but I got me other threads.

                Hey that's great, I mean I get it I get so damn disappointed with most things now as well. But occasionally you've got a goat or at least nice characters for art. Let's hope anon, but yeah in the end, he really gets fricked over himself because he's not the mc lol.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I think you should know the saying: “Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall.”

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'm sure kelsey lives by that code

                Kek fair enough anon, and true better to have a bit too much freedom than little to none. That would've flowed better honestly kek. And true, knowing me I'd probably give into that urge too, despite her being one of my fave chars in the show now. Oh definitely, I just like the idea of her doubting her own sincerity here, and yeah they'd look at her very differently, probably even spread rumors that eventually get back to her friends. Absolutely, views herself as a dragonslayer or orc-carver yet jobs to randos all the time. Good point there, I mean there was even that storyboarder that tried to pitch a show about a lesbian knight constantly failing to find love. Didn't go anywhere but the fact she felt confident enough says something. Can't win em all lmao.

                More or less lmao, could even see her inner monologue when she isn't around him shifting a bit, first she hears her own voice...but then her mental projection of him takes over. Kek, he's studied her body language and such around him for a while, probably a bit like Paloma did with everyone's speech patterns.

                A decent silver lining there kek. Yeah, larger-scale projects are kind of doomed due to creative differences, but you raise a good point with the Gillman stuff. Maybe even a bit like Snoot Game too, eke out your own place in the internet ecosystem.

                It's completely understandable if you don't get to it right away, priorities lol.

                Oh for sure, though in most cases it'd probably be to get a decent sense of how these characters are, would probably make other fanworks like the Veenter/Amiter Secret that much more potent. Rooting for you, anon! And kek that's fair, everyone's going to have their parade rained on.

                Ha I somehow had both in my life, truly I was a renaissance kid. Love the image did she really blush or is that a edit? also man can't look at kelsey the same after realizing she's such a jobber as you put it she's handled lol. We all would like how you sometimes get those intrusive thoughts about jumping off stuff or touching random stuff, all my faves are ripe for ryona. Well seems to be implied she doesn't have many friends since she only hangs with maya and stacks, unless we assume the team are her friends, she would doubt it for sure if getting off outweighs her will to win. Heh the idea she sees herself as this great monster slayer but her true dragon is jobbing to anyone and everyone. Oh hey I was just telling my friend about that series idea, didn't realize that was a actual industry person. I loved the idea poor girl but the idea of a constant loss johnny bravo esque cucked lesbian is hilarious and cute. Wish I remember the og thread number. But yeah it'll probably be a thing since we know more people are hating the mary sue and invincible girl boss that we get to much now, so we'll get your "mary sue gets a clue" to juxtaposition it.

                Poor girl he really mind breaks her, also that is peak dom/predator shit. Studies and analyzes her for the kill. Now she's second guessing her own thoughts and feelings.

                Yeah we must cling to our wins not our losses. True the differences are massive as well because of how peeps can be here, but can have a few small and fun things here and there.

                I appreciate it, I'll see

                I actually don't know those 2 but yeah in the end of the day getting a sense is good, but sometimes like we said before you kind of need to scrap it all to fix or make them work. Thanks I'll keep trying my best, yeah he's my fave but I must nerf and frick him over less he becomes a madara.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Truly, probably more learned than a lot of kids at that same age. Had a feeling you would, and I'm guessing it's a bruise where Maya batted her. Kek meanwhile it's just enforcing my first impression of her in these threads, and yeah lol was my attempt at a unique version of manhandled. True, all eager to do something people might consider odd or unsportsmanlike, and honestly she's the first one I've felt this way about, all my others are dainty or chill. Kinda thought maybe she reconnected with the other stump kids after their meeting at the concert, but I like that idea of her social life being in the balance because of her sexual needs. I'd say there's a non-zero chance her getting off is becoming the more dominant reason she keeps doing this. Oh I love that angle, the one monster she can't slay is what's inside. Yup, one of the more infamous Star vs boarders actually. Think another industry artist made a comic mocking her, might try to look for it kek. Yup, it's all this subversion stuff taken to its logical conclusion, taking the piss out of stuff that took the piss out of older things.

                She made him way too good, and with all the bullshit the channers fed him some amount of it was effective. It went from something of a fetishy larp to a dommy relationship she wouldn't dare leave. Then again, maybe he isn't THAT amoral, and he's a bit in over his head too.

                Pretty much, no sense fixating on the bad. Smaller scale collabs tend to mobilize a lot quicker too.

                No problem at all, anon.

                Didn't before a few months ago, but they're pretty decent character-wise or so I've heard. Might have some cuckquean aspects now too. And of course, though it's important to know what you're working with from the outset, might be able to save a part of it.
                Yeah, don't want to accidentally create another monster here, just something to help humble the protag a bit.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Found it kek

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Who made this? And is there any more? Like pitch bibles and stuff like that?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >HOW ABOUT LETTING ME SEE IF THE CARPET MATCHES THE DRAPES?
                Wow, Clara is really oversexed. I like it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >cuckquean aspects
                Which one

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Seems to be Amity eventually cucking Luz with Hunter thanks to Vee-related shenanigans.

                Who made this? And is there any more? Like pitch bibles and stuff like that?

                Elena Manetta, though the artist behind the concept itself is Sabrina Cotugno. Most we have are a few pictures and a blurb from the creator herself.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yep, it's either luz cucking amity(the more popular one) or amity cucking luz. The fans for some reason are obsessed with it. To the point they made older versions of both of them based on the concept designs as their older sisters so each could cuck/rape the latters gf.

                >Vee and hunter are the fan fave cucktors since one is the only potential male and has beef with amity and the other is a shapeshifter that used to look like luz

                Nice wish she just turned this into a comic, it's a cute style and the idea sounds fun. Like lesbian johnny bravo could be funny if because it's the old age she's like the only lesbian lol. Destined for loneliness and isolation.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The more perfect the couple, the more eager people are to corrupt it I suppose, same reason a lot of cartoon parents get that treatment. Had seen pictures but never knew it ran that deep.

                All the more based for letting Hunter have the spotlight here honestly, so many punished boys nowadays.

                Might still be in development? Was supposed to be a Disney show but some anons suggested it got shafted to Netflix but there's been no word for a while now...did find this thread though with some other assets, including picrel, yet another design for her. Kek didn't even consider that little nugget, only chance she has is with some dudebro or really fruity yet sadistic prince.
                https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/132068492/

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                See I feel it's not even that most people hate NTR so it can't be just that? I genuinely don't know it feels so targeted with lumity like I can understand if this was eastern stuff but it's mostly western artist.

                He may not be able to save them but he'll be damn sure to avenge them

                Definitely doesn't fit disney, be a better Netflix show. Lesbian that fails and gets hurt wouldn't work on disney but on netflix it'd be perfect. She probably wouldn't get with a fruity guy, maybe she's settle for her male best friend, poor thing or maybe she gets mind broken and dyke broken by a evil prince or knight.

                Thanks I'll check it out.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It's probably a perfect storm scenario, lots of stuff about the creator, the show, how it handles certain stuff, just gets people fired up to see those two broken up and broken in by guys, preferably Hunter of course.

                As he should, poor guy.

                Yeah it'd fit in right next to stuff like Centaurworld, offbeat fantasy with a lot of modern humor/concepts. Definitely like the evil prince route, probably had his eye on her for ages before making his move after she exhausted all her options.

                Is this Sabrina (Sage?) Cotugno's cartoon?

                One and the same, kek.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                True really just happened I guess poor lumity though, I swear I saw a piece where on her wedding day her fanmade sister and vee double team amity while luz has to watch like it's so vindictive makes you wonder if anyone actually liked the ship kek.

                Not wrong about it hunter is the best boi and deserves his dubs. Also weird especially when you learn most dykebroken art and fics are written by girl and lesbians. Nothing weirder about a lesbian describing how great and mind breaking dick is for like 4 paragraphs lol. They even have a word for it now "Orientation play" basically the nice way of saying you get dicked down so hard you change sides

                He's like her evil counterpart, except handsy and doesn't always stop at the first no. She hates how much she likes it. He subtley breaks her as it's the first time she's ever been wanted and desired. I kind of would love that make it like a tv14-mature lesbian fantasy johnny bravo as long as she doesn't go viv a curse a second route it would be peak.

                Again thanks idk if that's telling of me or them, but I'm also making porn of a kid's show lol. I feel her sword wouldn't be much anyway it's just PVC, which is pretty funny as it's sturdy but wouldn't do much realistically and as we saw with maya would break when force is applied. Man if that scene happened to post awakened kelsey she'd have gooned to that for weeks ultimate humilation. But yeah she is fairly small even her older self wouldn't weigh to much probably 120-140, also yeah stacks and her staying together was cute. Ha she tries to tell stacks without telling her "h..harder" poor stacks she's to gentle and kind. I wonder why ye ole "lesbian bed death" happens though maybe girls are just less horny lol. Also I heard about that actually idk what's going on with it they'll make a new worse one for sure. Hey the slapstick would be fun as well I just like a good series where the females are under the same logic as the guys lamest thing to me is when girls are invincible or never part of being the butt of any jokes makes them feel so uncharacter like it's why I hated characters like megan from D&J.

                Hey she is a cuddly chubby girl perfect for squeezing lol, but yeah that idea is fun. In my head most of these were self contained so I don't have to think about bs like timeline and how he'd have her and her at the same time lol. Poor thing though he loves her to DEATH kek. heh I had the idea of one of those something like this https://files.catbox.moe/88mg35.jpg while he lurks threads or plays the games maybe even streams with her or something.

                Never heard of the omnibabe? but sounds like it was fun

                Yeah they pushed it harder than crack in the intercities. Basically yep of course doesn't help [spoiler]she gets with his sister He really still is about peace till the end, I feel he's very petty already though his hate boner is obvious[/spoiler]

                Also meant to send this image for the love joke.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                They wanted to go turbo gay with the ending so people responded kek there are probably some, but it definitely has an equally large hatedom now.

                Definitely seems to be, ended up on my husbando list that's basically "boys that need a girl badly." Guess even they believe it just takes thw right kind of guy to rock their world. Kek I learned the term from a friend but he was the opposite.

                Appears behind her a particularly brutal chewing out from a princess, caresses her face before moving further down to her neck and the very beginning of her chestplate, saying how he wished she'd just pop off her armor for him. It'd probably take all of her willpower to not give him what he wants, especially since he just gave her the attention she needed. Also pictured him looking something like this, halfway between a saturday morning anime villain and a tumblr sexyman. Think she has experience with more mature yet tactful works like her old webcomics so I'm sure she'd do fine even if Cinemaphile would dunk on it.
                And kek, perfect.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                They tried their damnedest, I will say I wish it ended a bit better but I didn't hate lumity that much lol. Yeah but most artist that draw it are lgbt and love toh as I said it seems to not be us on Cinemaphile but the actual fanbase?

                Heh I guess dick is to dangerous for either side, also yeah guess that is the mindset just what if he fixed me kek. Also yeah I prefer pre mask reveal hunter really he felt like a different character and I loved him a lot he does get you know who but I'm not a fan of her actually

                I'm starting to think you just have a thing for effeminate men lol, feel that's too twinkish. He'd be best if he was actually kind of her friend or a person she and other respected. He's a realistic creep he's just like her cool and sauve or maybe the opposite he doesn't really stand out much he's attractive but doesn't over hype it. Also I feel he'd be subtler than that remember the old line of "bro don't scare the hoes off". He wouldn't want to get to open about it slowly wearing her down but he would be handsy like that enough it's weird but she brushes it off as accidents or misunderstandings. but the idea is hot as you said as well.
                Oh what's her old series, really have no faith in anything connected to star vs but if she's done good stuff before then theirs hope.

                kek happy you got it. best scene in the series couldn't find the terminator version sadly.

                Are you sure Kelsey’s a bottom? At the very least, she and Stacks ought to be switches.

                Oh idk we are just memeing at this point, but I mean kelsey is probably a bottom. She gets googly eyes over wildernessa a lot early on, "So powerful and strong" it feels like a bit bottom-y. Also I see her and stacks being switches together because stacks is a massive bottom but the point we were making was stacks couldn't meet kelsey's more "warrior" needs.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It is what it is at this point, and now that we're over the hill with the series I'm abivalent about it. Hard to say there then, probably a sign that the fandom's having a schism kek.

                Lol he's actually gay and wanted me to help him get into female chars more, used Craig girls to boot. Either that or being broken in a different sort of way kek. Yeah I've heard they neutered his character a lot in an effort to humanize him, don't know anyone that likes her so that checks out.

                Lol just playing into what I've seen elsewhere, plus I thought it'd make for a nice contrast with her more masculine disposition. Do love your characterization more though, someone she never would've expected to make the first move or choose someone like her. Probably tries to act like he's soothing her nerves and being her shoulder to cry on when he's just softening her up for himself.
                The Glass Scientists, seems like it got enough recognition to be published in book form.
                https://www.theglassscientists.com/comic/chapter-i
                Either way it works so it's no big deal kek.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Is this Sabrina (Sage?) Cotugno's cartoon?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yep tis life anon tis life. Ah that makes more sense it's just in the shape and angle like a blush as well, also hey she needs to learn anon. Sounds about right the short dynamo lol, I get ya anon that is the best type of handled. Heh welp welcome to the brotherhood of evil but yeah I could understand that vibe as well. Nah remember it ended with them all awkwardly walking away which was why craig was so worried, she has nothing but her gooning, wrestling and her gf. Ha imagine sticking to a sport just to be used and abused so you can use it for fap fuel, I was actually more referring to her just being a constant jobber but that's great too. Interesting I need to see it again but yeah crazy stuff. Yeah I feel the modern girlboss is in for a rude awakening but odds are we'll get more badass ryona and suffering heroines, like the girl from bones badass but not annoying and gets punished and hurt.

                I feel he'd be pretty amoral forgetting he's a misogynist kind of racist channer. He was just normal enough to not be so open about it and only let it out when he felt wronged. But you aren't wrong he's the perfect storm for her which she thought she wanted. It's not a fellow larp co-conspirator now it's a slave/broken hero and her master

                Yep best to hope and cope, also that's the best or less strict collaboration example Chaquetrix stuff, I know it's not Cinemaphile exclusive but you get me.

                Huh interesting, but yeah toh is notorious for it's weird cuckqueaning obsession most of the art is that now lol. Definitely agree I felt he paralleled the lack of being the chosen one vibes and embodied the whole what it takes if you don't have bs plot and friendship. He's got to deal with the heroes aftermaths and power fantasy larp.

                Found it kek

                Yeah this is it lol, is this the original or the other one? I find this so hilarious, wish this became a full Cinemaphile meme it could work.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Least you take it in stride, handle it better than most people. Oh it fooled me too when I first saw it, and that she does kek. It certainly is, pinning this stumpy little gal like a bug or football carrying her around as she futily tries to hurt you with her sword. Already got the scheming down so it works, and yeah I was surprised how well everything came together. True was just being optimistic I guess, I do like the idea that's all she really has going on, makes her more pathetic. Glad you liked it then, and yeah I have a feeling she has Stacks for companionship, nothing they do together compares to what she experiences in the ring, especially against male opponents. Most likely, especially given stuff like the Bechdel test fell out of favor, we'll probably be seeing more explicitly vulnerable heroines soon enough.

                True, he unironically does what a lot of people on that board just meme about. And now he essentially has a little trauma sponge that he can do whatever he wants to, worming his way into her mind bit by bit, even when he's off correcting some other unlucky girl.

                For the time being anyways kek, and yeah those threads have kinda surprised me, but it makes sense given its more laid back workshopping.

                It's mostly thanks to the show's emphasis on lumity I think, if anything could be classified as the genesis of this genre of fallen heroine it'd be this show kek.
                Yeah he needs something to keep him tethered lest he go down the same path Collin did lmao.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks though idk about all that kek. Well least I'm not the only fool, ha I'm assuming you mean her younger self caring older kelsey even if we assume she's 5'0 would be a hassle. But yeah carrying and pinning classic kelsey is probably light work even to another kid, she probably weighs less than 60 pounds. Sounds like you'll make a good member that is just how it is with waifus everything tends to just come together, man now that's just sad also yeah well i.e why craig was so depressed. But yeah her being so fricked in that regard would be hilariously depressing, damn poor kelsey they do say average lesbian relationship experience "lesbain bed death" within about 5-10 years she started to early lol. Yeah to be fair the test was always dumb and wasn't Bechdel a frumpy angry lesbian anyway? So i am hopefully for my heroine in distress series that are on the way

                Damn so kelsey's even a cuck in this relationship too how sad, but yep he's living every anons darkest fantasy for better or for worse. God forbid he's ever allowed to have her stay over his place.

                Yeah I'm just happy were getting ben 10 threads that aren't being insta 404'd the jannies hate gwen so any thread with to much of her get 404'd. I think it's pretty fun also free translation lol

                Ha you aren't wrong also the fact only luz started to matter at some points, and amity kind of goes the way of most lesbian gfs in modern stuff. She was a character then became just luz's gf. So fans kind of want to ruin and break that. I feel with how cucked he is and how fricked his life is compared to the mc if I ever actually do manage to make it most fans would ship them which would be awkward lol. He'd never be a collin because he literally is lawful neutral or chaotic good. He's too obsessed with the concept of peace except the mc she'll know no peace around him lol

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Seem a lot more stable than most people I know lmao. Kek it seems so, and yeah I meant her younger self, unless she's a lot denser than she looks, she could get knabbed by just about anyone if they make it past her sword. Kek I aim to please, and true a perfect storm of a more positive variety, and at least she's making the most of it at the expense of her reputation and potentially her relationship with Stacks. Yup, for all we know they've only been intimate a few times together, all that mushy tenderness ain't her speed. Yeah pretty much, but it's funny that she even denounced it being used as a serious media gague a while back. Regardless, I'm sure we'll be seeing them soon enough, I'd even settle for female slapstick.

                Maybe, or she's his "main squeeze" for lack of a better term, he might have fleeting fun with the others, but he'll always have a soft spot for her...if you call delighting in breaking her affection. Closest thing to a harem protag as one could get without just buying girls kek. Practically entering the lion's den, bet he brought her since his mom's away so he can do whatever his twisted little heart desires.

                Fair enough there, only other time this happened was with that Omnibabe stuff, and that lasted like a month tops. Kek fair.

                Exactly, once the ship became canon it's like it became mandatory to show it off as often as possible. Yeah more of a "I earned this, you were handed it on a silver platter" deal, which would get a lot of people on his side I think lol. And that works, honestly shows just how much she makes his blood boil that he goes from peace and balance to hatred around her.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Again thanks idk if that's telling of me or them, but I'm also making porn of a kid's show lol. I feel her sword wouldn't be much anyway it's just PVC, which is pretty funny as it's sturdy but wouldn't do much realistically and as we saw with maya would break when force is applied. Man if that scene happened to post awakened kelsey she'd have gooned to that for weeks ultimate humilation. But yeah she is fairly small even her older self wouldn't weigh to much probably 120-140, also yeah stacks and her staying together was cute. Ha she tries to tell stacks without telling her "h..harder" poor stacks she's to gentle and kind. I wonder why ye ole "lesbian bed death" happens though maybe girls are just less horny lol. Also I heard about that actually idk what's going on with it they'll make a new worse one for sure. Hey the slapstick would be fun as well I just like a good series where the females are under the same logic as the guys lamest thing to me is when girls are invincible or never part of being the butt of any jokes makes them feel so uncharacter like it's why I hated characters like megan from D&J.

                Hey she is a cuddly chubby girl perfect for squeezing lol, but yeah that idea is fun. In my head most of these were self contained so I don't have to think about bs like timeline and how he'd have her and her at the same time lol. Poor thing though he loves her to DEATH kek. heh I had the idea of one of those something like this https://files.catbox.moe/88mg35.jpg while he lurks threads or plays the games maybe even streams with her or something.

                Never heard of the omnibabe? but sounds like it was fun

                Yeah they pushed it harder than crack in the intercities. Basically yep of course doesn't help [spoiler]she gets with his sister He really still is about peace till the end, I feel he's very petty already though his hate boner is obvious[/spoiler]

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Kek maybe a bit of both, and point taken kek, we'd both get side-eyes. Oh for sure, but she probably knows how to make it pack a wallop, at the very least ensures whoever caught her's gonna teach her a lesson afterwards. God, can just imagine her quietly sobbing as she fiddles with herself, the loss of her blade and her need to be broken swirling around inside her. Kek not quite a womanlet but still kinda scrawny. Even when they have a disagreement they can sacrcely stay apart, but poor Stacks can't bring herself to harm her precious Fire so Kels turns to other means. Heard it's more about appearances than anything else, least for the butch ones lol. Hopefully there's just a doing away with it, but we all know vacuums don't stay that way for long. Yeah both sexes should be fair game when it comes to this stuff, ENF too but that's already pushing it kek.

                Lol yeah, and glad it's appealing to you, even if getting into the time logistics of porn pics ain't your cup of tea, not really mine either. Lol thay emphasis, but yeah I love that idea! Especially the streaming one, given it's a form of torture in of itself thanks to her camera-shyness, and she's entirely powerless to stop it.
                Think it was like the omnitrix grew around Ben entirely and looked/acted like a bimbo, design had a certain appeal.

                You're not wrong there lmao, and it had just about the same effect on their brains. KEK, really going all in with her huh? And yeah his sole exception to the lawful neutral/chaotic good treatment.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                True but again it is a fairly weak material to be smacking people with but surprisingly solid as well. The thought of poor lil kelsey even back then being taught a lesson is a bit overkill she's so weak and helpless, also yes I can she real lives the fight over and over make it worse don't forget she was genuinely scared of maya after that as well. Kelsey the poor jobber she mixes so many contradictive emotions together at once. Isn't 5'0 womanlet territory? Stacks also yeah she's way to nice and caring no way she could be the Ice queen she'd need, she needs someone that can start a fire in her loins. Idk actually with all the weird fics girls write must be something else, and you aren't wrong seems like it's slowly eroding but how long it'll take is unknown. Yep best variation is when everyone can get it lol.

                Heh yeah timeline is to constraining and figuring it out is a bit to time consuming lol. Yeah maybe he makes one for his Cinemaphile bros obviously using a vpn and mosaics to hide certain stuff. Poor kelsey can't get a break.

                Hmmm ben's my goat so I'm not the biggest fan of him being a femboy or beta, So i guess this new trend is more for me than the last one lol

                Yeah it was pushed pretty hard it was almost like one of those corpo plants. Also true I kind of was but hey maybe it'll be my lumity kek, but you just have him seetheing in the background. You aren't wrong but he more hates her being a dumbass that doesn't think of the consquences of her actions basically a larper that comes to another world then does whatever she wants

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Valid point there, not to mention it's hollow unlike Maya's bat. Kek, maybe it'd be by someone closer to her weight class then. Probably climaxes thinking of whe she could've done to her had Craig and JP not been there for her, repurposing that fear for her own pleasure. Of course, every well-rounded character needs internal conflict...god I sound just as bad as her lmao. I meant more in terms of weight there kek, but yeah 5'0" and under probably counts. Could even see Stacks being a bit put off by it, not enough to reconsider their bond but still. Definitely hard to put our finger on it, doubt we'd ever get a conclusive answer either kek. Let's hope sooner than later lol, and yeah it really adds to it.

                Best to keep things fast and loose yeah kek. All of them go ballistic in chat once they see her all done up like a b-day gift, and she's probably twitching the whole time, both from the vibe and her wanting to get out of their sight.

                Completely fair, sometimes they have it exist as its own entity, but yeah this stuff's more fun from what I've seen.

                Just a creator getting a little overzealous given she knew she had nothing to lose, can't cancel the show more. Will admit that's pretty funny kek. Like you said, the sum total of everything people can't stand about those types nowadays.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah but since it's PVC it won't break unless you pull a maya, it needs to be a constant force on both side because it's mallable plastic meant to flex and bend. Really imagine if Maya's bat was metal she'd have put a few kids into the emergency care, the closet person to her weight class she's loss to as well lol even bobby. I think she'd defininetly have nightmares of it at first then they slowly turn more corrupted and lewd. Going from maya's words ringing in her ear of how pathetic she was, to maya mewing/chooing at her as she puts her hand under her chin first stripping her of her cape then somehow cutting her clothes with her bat. She then pins her down as if she's nothing slowly feeling along kelsey's small frame. She has enough internal demons lol, also ah yeah I get ya but i think weight doesn't apply to letism it's more about height specifically. I think stacks would be really confused and try to support her but in a way that feels like she'll fix her lol. I hope we get it as well but it's one of those things that could be tommorow or in 10 years companies seem to be willing to lose millions on these ideas.

                Yep, also poor thing I'm sure he doesn't show off his prize regularly. Probably just a one time event to prove he's not lying plus complete the breaking of the warrior once known as Kelsey. He probably live post his other conquest probably using one of those non saveable image pages. The ones the darker side of the channels use a lot.

                Yeah I kind of just get tired of bottom male so often, I feel it's getting weirdly oversaturated the whole neutered/softboi archtype kek. Also man I was actually working on the kelsey sketch comic but I got off track because of rage. by the way if you were to pick from rule34 stuff of kelsey tell me which version is your fave? she's too stumpy as base and I'd like a second opinion for a ref.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That post is blacker than Craig

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Everything is blacker than craig

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                true dat

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh I get that I just meant from a damage perspective lol, Maya definitely would've especially with a batting arm like hers and good point kek. Probably feels her heart racing after a particularly bad one but she knows something isn't right, maybe a bit of warmth or dampness down there. Then everything you described comes back to her in chunks, possibly at inconvenient times for added effect. True she can't catch a break even in fanfiction, and fair enough there kek. I could see her trying to encourage Kelsey to find avenues that she can use to express herself, not knowing she's doing just that already and making things much worse kek. And given everyone's bleeding money now we might get an about-face soon enough.

                Yeah this'd be reserved for their eyes only, but for all we know that'd make it more humiliating for her, that she's like some exotic beauty he had imported. And that'd definitely cover his tracks...unless someone screenshots and blabs about it to someone that can't keep a secret worth shit.

                Yeah if there's anything I'd call a corpo plant it's shit like that, way too prevalent now. It happens to the best of us kek, and as for decent Kelsey refs, maybe stuff like this? Gives for a bit more to work with length-wise while not sacrificing her gremlin energy. https://files.catbox.moe/r9q6g9.jpg

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                True as I said before it'll probably level a red mark where it hit but not long term bruise. Also yeah Maya would have been a menace if she had a wooden or metal bat. Poor kelsey she doesn't know her inner bottom is awakening, worst thing to be a jobber and a maso. She goes through the day slowly remembering her nightmare or more like corrupted fantasy. Her fanfics are the problem poor girl autisticly can't seperate her fantasies from reality. Also yeah stacks pushes her away unintentionly and makes kelsey feel more weird and misunderstood and disgusting. She tries to fix her not accept her weird maso life lol. Also mayhaps they are bleeding money like crazy even the companies are finally admitting it so it's becoming a thing I think the biggest thing is even the quiet masses are realizing what's going on and can't keep accepting the shit.

                Well actually that's what those sites are for like to go to some streams and view some images it's like trying to screen shot a streaming service. But crazier it's impossible to do it because the service is hosted in your pc Darkweb shit lowkey. Ha poor girl treated like a russian purchased bride, she's a product a commodity.

                Nice I actually expected you'd pick ones like these https://files.catbox.moe/ns2h95.jpg, but the former is closer to the og design. It was more drawing something else because some angered me. Sadly it is people really now make whole series just for ships or to push lgbt stuff and not even in a story way just in a weird almost fetishy hey now kids will see it and you can't stop me. Like all the interviews feel like they are fighting a gen that no longer exist kek

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah the worst it'll do is sting for a few minutes kek. They made a good call with literally nerfing her weapon-wise. Would make the lesbo peptalk even more misguided since it applied to more than her feelings for Stacks kek. Gives her an odd tingle here and there but it all comes to a head once she's home, and that's a good point lmao cursed to be way too into the larp. Kelsey probably feels a bit betrayed but then also wonders if she really does have something wrong with her, which just feeds her need for punishment. Exactly, time's almost up as it were.

                My naiveté's showing a bit there I guess lmao, but it makes sense to have that in place. But yeah she's little more than a doll when she's like that.

                I seriously considered the top left and bottom right but I prefer more on-model stuff by a longshot. Kek, spite draws can be somewhat fun at least. Yeah it feels more like a fashion/political statement than anything plot-relevant.

                Heh oh just realized my other was responding to this lol, so I'll reverse it and say yeah idk why bottom males is so popular. Like most girlbosses male friends are either simps or complete losers. Wasn't a fan of stacks x kelsey specifically the episode of it felt dumb "ha your elementary school friends said you are a self inserter and gay. You must be lol". Thanks anon of course I do too but I never get my hopes up kek

                I dedicate my life to hating lol. No need to be sorry bro, but yeah sad because he had so much potential to be the best character by miles I mean he is but that's because the others are just the luz squad and have no real relevancy kek. But yeah like you said Simon is an example that you can't even be redeemed as a man unless you become a submissive b***h. He was chad and did exactly what the girl did but stuck to his guns gets raped by a roach monster. Nah you about right idk why male characters can't be good and buttholes/strong anymore now they must be subservant or basically girls to be in these shows like marco and the princess thing

                I feel it'd be peak if he at first is a scummy heartless creep but after slowly breaking her down and having her open up being her only confidant. He starts to feel bad about slowly femininizing her. But he's like "in for a penny in for a pound" lol. Also yeah butch/tomboy wienery dominant girl slowly feminization and being embarrassed by being cute is kino asf. Her slowly being messed with by double standards and basic logic but mixed with little lies and gaslighting sounds interesting.

                Maid you say?

                It's all meant to make the girlbosses look more capable, same goes with himbos making them look desirable kek. Fair assessment, definitely embraces the "it feels good, so it must be good for you" mentality too readily. I get that sentiment all too well.

                Least you try to have fun with it kek. Pretty much, once he served his purposed as the redeemable antag he just became part of the party like we're in an rpg. Suffered probably the single most brutal death in modern kids tv history for actually having balls. It's probably trying to make it seem like the norm for younger audiences.

                More than works for me kek, just feels like she's letting her real self come out/trying something new while he's just trying to keep things running smoothly. Yeah it's the perfect blend of wholseome and daring in today's climate. That's the key, laying the foundation that she builds up herself.

                Yup kek, picrel.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Poor kelsey no wonder why she jobs so much bad equipment lol, yeah Maya is too op needs a nerf as is. They unintentionally made a gooner/horny monster telling her to let her fantasies and desires run wild. Kelsey relives it even at home damn kelsey got beaten so bad maya is in her head rent free. Damn now she's basically into being a freak as well kelsey is broken beyond repair now, her masosub nature is going beyond plus ultra. Soon we shall have a series based on our version of kelsey the true version.

                It's not bad better to know less about the internet these days, sadly she loves it as well. He sold stacks to some creep on the dark web

                Interesting I'll try to look into it soon I kind of like on model as well but with a lil twist like the ones above makes it sexier but I understand you, kelsey just so model fricked it's hard to do without taking liberties lol. I must allow my rage to boil for inspiration kek, also yeah really sad how some people care less about the story and more about the points and weird stuff.

                Yeah they can't fathom making both genders competent and badass or cool at once. It's why a lot of new/reboot series make the older mentor a complete loser so the girl can tell them how it all really works so you can't even have cool grown male characters lol. Yeah it just rubbed me the wrong way like too weirdly said and portrayed, really sounded like a really good friendship especially as a kid that wrote a lot with my friends and our characters were exactly like fire and ice. Like it wasn't like they kissed or anything in the original just were close it felt like they didn't put enough subtext I guess making it seem like a massive leap.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Bad equipment and a subpar frame for fighting, was destined to fail, and yeah she managed to solo a cardboard mech. Their logic taken as far as it can go kek, and yup as a guilty shlick fantasy no less. Just pulling from every possible source of shame to give her the perfect experience each time. Honestly change enough smaller details about their future setting and you probably could realistically kek.

                True, less chances to lose your faith in people kek, and she definitely does, probably had more than one fantasy about slave traders. And I bet the lucky guy that has her's probably just as bigoted as he is, though for all we know he

                I mean if you want to add some more appealing qualities to her design I say go for it. I hear you there, it's more lust for me I think kek. Yeah even people that love CotC just praise the minority rep and little else.

                Sad but true, at least when it comes to heroes, sometimes villains can be either sex and still be badass. God that's so groan-inducing and it seemingly came for a lot of the old guard so at least it's running on fumes. Yeah they handle gay/lesbian relationships kinda sloppily outside of maybe the witches, and that's only thanks to it being established.

                True, also yeah I kind of hate it as it feels like it's connected to that meme of now join my found family. It feels with each new show now the redemptions and friendships are less and less deserved. Sadly yeah and even worse sense grace was the one that made him literally indoctrinating him. She made a whole cult and got the good ending wtf? she also made up a whole lie knowing it was a lie, Grace is a sociopath that got to win lol

                True I now sadly can't tell if I like the new wholesome dykebreaking route or the original plan kek. I do like the idea of him getting closer and closer to his goal but now feeling sympathetic because of how much he got to know her. He contemplates going through with it, she's almost complete but he questions if it will be wrong or not and more does he care? But a full on sleezeball hitting on a annoying but not creepy just misguided flirtatious character sounds fun. Reminds me of a fic someone I knew made of what if melodios got molested and harrassed by a guy lol.

                oh she's cute sad knowing it's guy centric so she won't be a potential best girl/main girl

                Yeah trying to push for some extended family imagery here and there. It's probably that subversions of tropes are becoming tropes in of themselves so it's expected now. Yeah that feels like the worst kind of message to send into the world for a kid or otherwise kek.

                Could try exploring both and see which one feels more fitting to you. And yeah that he's getting in too deep as much as she is with him, starting to see her as a genuine friend rather than a target. The alternative's just as enticing though for more sadistic reasons, so again it's kinda up to you. Also sounds intense lmao, might poke around a bit.

                Seems she has her moments from what I saw when searching her up.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yep she's not even a sleeper build she's a jobber build, poor girl destined to bottom. I now imagine maya as the silence bottom meme, she truly was kelsey's dragon and she kind of didn't even slay her just delayed her. Truly kelsey has to vivid of a imagination so it just makes her horny knightmares worse. She tries so hard to fight her nature but she can't and soon she knows it maybe exposed to the world. Ha now I want a dark fantasy about a mary sue gets a clue who gains a jobber fetish.

                Now we've added sex trafficking to the boys crime he's truly the scum of channers dream, he is declared the Prince of Cinemaphile. Also yep can't lose if you never play.

                I do like to get opinions as I don't want to go to far and really have too many options so it's good to get a narrow down ya know. Sadly yeah COtC is one of those series I can only discuss and meme on here, to many people slob on it's knob lol

                Eh now male villians are either characterless or just normal men making hard decisions and they are abused for it like the king from wish or ironwood . They lose because the mc are females and they are the mcs so they must be right.

                it annoyed me because you had dumbasses that would call any character you make a self insert and call you gay for writing friend fics or bro imaginary stories and making comics together. So it irks me specifically lol, but yeah also found family is good but over used and not deserved like most redemptions and mc wins.

                True, I like my darker side of things and butch/strong girl corruption is just so unique and hot so idk. Ha I enjoy the latter, but you are right the idea he unintentionally feels for her. Maybe she comes to him after a particularly mean girl you know the ole she can only say no, but she's bruised her shades broken and she needs a hug, she is just a girl but the vulnerability makes him feel weird.

                based

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And yet she keeps trying just so she can be knocked around again. Definitely suits her, the closest thing to a canon nemesis that Kels had and she couldn't go at it alone. Her own mind "rebelling" against her, showing her scenarios that should fill her heart with fear like the prey she is. Her exposure is a case of when and who rather than if kek, could be her own gf in an intervention, could be her disgusted teammates,
                sky's the limit. Gal gets a rude awakening, and yet she manages to turn it into a very pervy, weird positive.

                A power fantasy gone so awry and yet they applaud him after he shoes proof. Didn't finish my sentence there it seems lmao, was gonna say he might actually be more tender with her than Collin is with Kels.

                I think the pics you posted covered most of the changes I'd want like slightly more defined curves, a little belly, etc. About how it goes, or they just attack it on sight without considering the potential. No in-between

                Good chunk of them are redemption porn or fodder nowadays yeah. Personally wouldn't mind more like Jack Horner though, just revels in it without a second thought...albeit maybe less winking at the audience.

                I get you, it feels like those same people that mocked you and your friends are taking it for themselves and lecturing you about it? Like we said earlier, just a lot of saturation that ruins any impact they might have or they lean on it like a crutch.

                Could always keep both around even if one's clearly hotter lol, maybe pull from either for the other's scenario too. And I definitely like that, just shatters her confidence and you could even see the loss of her shades as her giving up that pick up act. Just hugs him and buries her face in his chest as he stands there just kind of processing it before hugging her back, trying to soothe her by stroking her still quite short hair.

                Hell yeah kek

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's definitely almost admirable but to job is to be weak. True Maya was but also wasn't she was just so much better they didn't properly give Maya her own arc until after. Maya was literally a behemoth/dragon a force of nature. Kelsey's greatest enemy is her own mind and that's actually canon, she secretly develped a pred prey fetish thanks to maya. Nah most people hide their real self for years and even to their partners, so she maybe able to hide it for a while, but the idea is enough for her. Ha is it positive for her or us the fans?

                Ha the idea a random pedo that buys a girl is kinder than our "hero" is hilarious. Also yeah he only does lil post of proof, then the fantasy gets worse as they know he's usually really doing it so the advice gets more aggressive.

                You aren't wrong cotc isn't perfect by any metric but it's ok and a lot is racism like the one shitposter that always has to bring it up lol. Also true peak cuddly chubby girl.

                Yeah I was just watching a vid about a old show and as the guy brings up he's just a butthole to everyone sexist, racist but it works unlike a strawman he's not meant to be deep exactly like Jack Horner he's just a villain. I feel that's why I hate a lot of modern villians as they are way to shallow and not evil enough.

                Yep also no real weight if they are already good or are so evil them becoming squad after raping someone lol, less found family and more redeemcope. Ha couldn't be those guys they said a lot of uncultured words, they'd mind break most of them if they went to school together kek. Reminds me of a twitter thing I saw where they were coping and saying the joke that people that have twitter/of now could have handled classic bullies kills me. Like I was reading the thread and was just like, just reading how you guys type and cope I know that's not true kek. That's what COTC needed realistic bullies lol

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nothing but a brutal yet sensual cycle, at least for her kek. Yeah they were really gung-ho on making most rivals/nemeses in the show sympathetic in some way, and kek she really was a one-girl wrecking crew. She was too good at coming up with her own internal drama, and it definitely had a more primal effect like that, beyond even hero and villain. Oh she'll keep it hidden well enough, but all it'd take is one slip up for the whole thing to come tumbling down. Kek a bit of both I'd think, was kind of thinking of Sparkle Cadet's way of coping by just trying to recontextualize shit thay happens to her.

                Yeah kek, Stacks is getting treated like a little princess while Kels is being put through the wringer for his amusement. Yeah they'd definitely up the ante if they know what he's working with now, maybe even targeting certain things based on what parts of her physique they could make out.

                Yeah it's got a lot of heart even for its lack of polish in some cases, and kek true even I didn't give it a chance due to my own biases. She'd be the ideal snuggler if things had been different kek.

                Exactly, big bombastic villains tend to leave more of an impact and garner a bigger following than a half-assed attempt at a deep character thanks to that charisma they tend to exude.

                Yeah I definitely get you in that case, just feels unnecessary or outright wrong. Reality wouldn't just slap em in the face, it full-on throttle them kek. That being said having an actual bully in the show would've been interesting, maybe even seeing one of the more "irredeemable" characters like Big Red or even pre-Puppy Love Brigid become actual threats, former could even have Boris handle her dirtywork lol.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ha poor thing, also yeah maya made sense but she still didn't deserve a full redemption, but yeah she was really her she took out most of the hero army. The idea she sees herself as a helpless prey in the eyes of maya's overwhelming strength is fun and made worse by her innate overactive imagination. That's what makes it hotter for her how close to being exposed she is. Damn she is prime for it or at least her type a girl that tries to turn everything into a positive made for "mary sue get's a clue" (if you couldn't tell I loved that line kek)

                At least Kelsey loves it because of her inner masosub, I imagine stacks is just mindbroken also wonder what her parents think lol. Yep I meant more for his continued conquest of the creek but also good idea

                Yep scumbags are fun and if they are deep it's a big positive but secondary. I miss when villians were just so high energy and had fun personalities them crying and being secret victims makes them so lame now.

                Yeah sometimes it's fine if it's a same side situation but outright forgiven or with the good guys is weird. "why did the guy that tried to kill us, backstab us who would have thought" I'd love this to be the ending instead of villians changing even with xavier I'd have preferred him staying evil. That sounds interesting I feel the lack of real weight and antagonist is why most stuff is a bit dull in cotc unlke the other side arc being one of my faves and red poncho stuff.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                She's playing the hand she was dealt, as deliciously self-destructive as it might be, and yeah it's honestly impressive. Absolutely, wouldn't be surprised if she even puts her own body type down, a hapless ginger hamster being batted around by a b***hy cat. Oh absolutely, adds to the thrill of it all but her skirting close to the edge is gonna bite her in the ass. Yeah it helps that she's kind of her own thing and not just black Sailor Moon like her dress would suggest. Could see Collin calling her a cheap knockoff too, and she just says her inspo would find it charming. Kek I'm honestly flattered it stuck with you that much.

                True plus she's still there in Herkleton, Stacks is lord knows where, that'd have a big effect on her. Ah my bad kek, kinda prefer it being creek-focused, can only imagine how he describes some of the girls on there, especially the minority ones.

                Yeah if they aren't entertaining then what's the point of really investing in them. It's a shame because tragic villains CAN work, it's just they're always handed to the worst writers for the job it seems.

                Yeah the best ones in that regard are allies of circumstance that'll eventually go back to fighting once the big threat's out of the way. Yeah outright forgiveness is just thrown around like candy now, was kinda refreshing to see people doubt Xavier and him act out because of it. But he would've been better had he remained a villain, same goes with Serena given she'd been doing corrupt shit for years. Sometimes people are just too far gone to help and need to be taken out, and yeah it was impressive how much their presence could be felt. Now I'm wondering how it could've been if Kenneth had a similar bitterness spiral to Mark and stayed king all this time instead of passing it down to his siblings. Benevolent monarch to dystopian dictator. Still has Maya as his bestie of course to make it extra creepy.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                True she won't give up she thinks it makes her a badass hero, but it just makes her the resident punching bag. Ha I feel she'd make maya even bigger and badder for a massive comparison and girls fave fantasy size diff, so maya's probably a big black panther and the hamster fits for kelsey. I imagine the scene from jjk running through her head every night. Also yeah mayhaps but she isn't actively doing exhibitionism so unless she starts doing it at school she should be fine, people would just think she's a beast that can take tons of punishment but oh how little do they know kek. I'm not the biggest sparkle cadet fan but you are right, he'd definitely call her a knock off and a fake fan. yeah it was a good one.

                I meant creek focused as well just in that case the other girls, also yeah I'm sure he's unique about it lol. I do think he wouldn't be the first to act he has kelsey to satiate his lust. Stacks pays for all of kelsey's abuse and new toys, she's heartbroken as the villian has now truly taken away her princess but it's now real and irreversible.

                Oh yeah they can tragic villians can just most writers now ruin it like they make them massive softbois or out of left field tragedy that's bland. yep exactly sadly.

                Yeah best vibes, tired of villian to friend give me villian to petty antagonist a bit like eggman. Yeah really xavier and serena I can forgive as they weren't as bad as others, but I feel they'd have been good forever villians. Yeah exactly the to far gone thing should exist and be respected. Evil Kenneth is a idea lol why is maya still his bestie wtf lol I feel next thread I need to talk more about edie and serena again

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Deep down she probably knows, but keeps wanting to keep up the façade, if only for herself. Oh that works a lot better, practically Smaug and Bilbo size dif, and looking it up that fits really well too, probably wakes up right as Maya catches her. Good point, would have to be a comedically specific series of events that gets her exposed, and yeah they'd probably call her a little tank while we know the truth kek. Valid, and yeah he'd know where to strike the hardest kek.
                Describes them in as degrading and objsctifying a way as possible, and that's a fair point kek. Her own love of tragic romance isn't even enough to somewhat lift her spirits, now that it's actually happened to her.

                Yeah, kinda plays into a lot of the other issues we discussed earlier I think. Can only hope some decent ones come out of the woodwork soon enough.

                I could definitely see it, not a legitimate threat but also not just some pushover that the heroes can come to if they need something. Yeah they were good, but could've been a bit better thanks to that. Feels realistic too, some people are just mean with no reasoning to it kek. I mean like even if the focus shifts from Xavier to Kenneth, college-age dude with a teenage guard. Plus like a dude with arrested development wouldn't pull some shit like that. Oh absolutely, their little dynamic could definitely use some spicing up.

                yeah that it did hopefully we can get back to these cotc threads making it to 500 again. Ha it's cool just the idea was placed in my head. True I feel the peak is still the ole she's still a rough tough beer drinking tomboy but she breaks sometimes and is meek and open around him. She can't be a equal in his eyes because of his ego but he's got spirit and that's what we like. I feel that's peak and most girls would love it since a lot of them simped for jack horner kek. Interesting to be fair collin was easy with the cotc character creator as a basic base and my own idea ahead of time. But this will be harder any hair refs/ideas maybe I'll just be a basic loser and make him dracula from steve lichman lol.

                We just have to keep the OPs convo-centered I think, none of that ragebait shit. Hope it didn't kill your enthusiasm there lol. Yeah, he's the sole exception she has, her only chance to show her feminine side. Exactly it's close enough for most people, and that's true I've seen an uncomfortable amount of femanon x Jack smut. Ah that's totally fair, and as far as hair goes I was thinking a bit longer, maybe something like picrel? Or just under shoulder-length lol

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yep she does it's her like the cope dub she got from that fat kid she needs a win. I'm sure she'd love that comparison, i wonder if kelsey would enjoy lotr. Oh never read jjk? but yeah it's a new iconic villian end. She records a stream or something and gets exposed, also lil tank not knowing she's a lil bawd kek.He'd help her find a clue lol.

                She has to find a way to convince him to give stacks back she becomes a good slave hoping he'll spare them, it's her only shot now she's no longer a hero or warrior but bad ends tend to never end. Ha funnier if he desribes them nicely or normally then the channers corrupts it and gasses him up.

                maybe one day these things go in cycles sadly so maybe soon this one will end and we'll be better for it.

                Yeah fun villians are the best reminds me of that one panel of sonic but eggman was still a butthole but needed the good guys. Oh I know for sure I know someone like that and have to interact with them because of other friends but they are just miserable, actually that's a good idea for a villian overly depressed self proclaimed victim that is so in there head they can't realize they are the dick. Oh no not the spicing up, also kenneth hanging out with kids and ruling them as some lonely schizo is insane and weird but hilarious

                Yep I say next time we do less of these convos as well maybe just make a green feel these unintentionally exclude others via the constant spoilers and multi convo chain format lol. I'd also say just best option for next thread to have more interaction with others. Yeah in the end it's cool bro, also yeah that sounds hot and every guys secret desire with a tomboy/muscle girl. Interesting idea feels like it goes in that evil prince director rather than other knight unless we did the gaston lol hair. Also yeah that one femanon draws abuse porn of herself and jack kek

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Meant to send this pic for the villian that's only temporary teammate.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Exactly, thinks any little victory she has negates every other swift jobbing. Most likely kek, and I feel like she would even if she has to insert different people from her life into the story, for some reason I could see her making JP Gandalf. Nah, not that well-versed in japanese media save for kaiju shit lol. For sure, leaves poor Kels panicked yet aroused. I could see that, probably left her webcam on or connected to the wrong chatroom and ended up exposing herself to some close associates, just some real plants aligning stuff. She'd definitely use that on herself the night after she heard it. She'd definitely learn a thing or two after some time alone with him.

                Stripped of any noble status she might've had and yet she still tries to be chivalrous in getting Stacks out of some dirty pedo's clutches. Oh good point, could even see him having a thought cloud with mental images of each one that start out normal and then start changing with every obscenity he reads off their posts.

                We can only hope what comes to replace it is of higher quality, personally putting my stock in indie stuff but that might be just as misguided.

                Yeah that certainly works, just setting their differences aside for a moment when something worse is going on. I really like that idea too, feel like I've seen a villain like that recently but I can't put my finger on it. It'll be more than salty spray I'll say that much kek, not even the virtuous nature of the Heart of the Forest could keep his heart pure. As his older friends (and bestie) left his power remained absolute, neither his sis or his little bro have much to do with him. Guess that'd make Maya more than a bestie really.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                True she can hype herself up again with just one fake or poultry win. Jp as gandalf is a unique idea, but i can't see anyone else maybe her dad she'd be a perfect frodo. It's cool reminds me of another anon but they are more into rangers and obscure stuff. Ha the real reason the squad broke up lol the idea she makes up her own bullied nicknames is hilarious. I can't even imagine what he'd do to poor sparkle cadet

                It's all she can do like a concubine or prostitute asking for her son to be released by the king, it's her only hope and option now. It's perfect like I said it's all about him feeling slighted. goes from maya is a strong cool stand offish black girl, to she's a wienery prideful rude c**t kek

                Nah indie seems to be the wave both in comics and cartoons and in video games. The companies are just learning and fans do it all better lol*insert palsworld joke*

                Yeah it's fun plus it allows the villian to still be themself instead of being suddenly a softboi/good. They are b***hing and opping the whole way through the mission which makes it fun. Sounds like it's pretty salty on kenneth's side lol. More than a bestie....uh, also damn bad end kenneth how do you even beat him?

                Fair enough, they did kinda take over the thread unintentionally, wondered if we got in too deep with this. That'd be best too, know our one artfriend just couldn't catch a break, and trying my hand a creek green doesn't sound half bad either! Probably comes close, wanting to see them for who they really are underneath. Yeah that's what I was leaning into, though Gaston or even Guts-ish hair and a more punk/biker-inspired getup could make him stand out compared to her, a Mad Max black knight as it were. Yup that's the one lmao.

                I mean hey we can just say we make the threads reach 500kek, but yeah I feel it doesn't matter but more just allows others to interact greens also have the benefit of being a story. Maybe you could convert the fem bravo stuff we said into a basic green to give people a run down for the thread like a second or third post lol. yeah maybe next thread you could do the same thing just take all our sperging and convert it to a green lol. I like your idea you just need to make a pinterest for me or a catbox album lol. Also yeah that and caveman brain domination but yeah it's the exclusivity and unique vibes for me she's only soft with you or you broke the facade.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Exactly, she's had at least one or two freak wins on her own, uses it to say she isn't a complete loser. It'd probably be a bit scattershot which would make for some funny additions...could see Gollum getting played by someone other than Roger too kek, she'd definitely make a good Frodo too. Yeah toku in general is a deep rabbithole. Didn't even think of it like that, would be perfect, makes sense why they can't even make eye contact for that long kek, and yeah even a compliment gets turned into an insult by her insecure horny brain. Stuff that'd even make her various rivals uncomfortable.

                Practically throwing herself at her blonde master's feet, pleading for her former lover's safe return. True, just feeding into what he already picked up from them and taking it further, and kek goes from a decent 1:1 to her looking more doodly and exaggerated.

                Kek yeah that's the long and short of it, I do know there's a lot of animated webseries people are trying to crank out too, seem promising enough.

                Yeah they don't need a spinal amputation to make them likeable, quite the opposite kek, and yeah a bit of comic relief here and there. Lol I meant Serena and Edie there. She's basically fresh meat for him kek, and I'd say in a surprise twist that the Elders might actually be able to help out somehow, maybe talking him into telling them about the puzzle cube.

                Kek true it shows there's interest which is a good sign for others, and yeah keeps the flow of the thread going strong, and I'll see what I can do there kek, wanna stay on-topic at least early in the thread so maybe I could focus on bad end Kenneth and the Collin stuff lol. Maybe I can try to get something up either tomorrow or by the next thread. Yeah that's a bit closer to the average joe's mindset lol, but I'm with you there, so much intimacy in her letting her guard down.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Heh it's funny because most of her wins she either cheated or won by raw luck. Like her verse the boy and her verse squashinator. I originally was going to say jp for gollum but roger fits so well, who'd craig be? Yeah she's short and stout. Yep they saw how far she had fallen, she made it weird girls ruin eveything lol. Damn imagine being insecure and a horny bottom bad mix. Didn't even know she had rivals lol but yeah sounds about right he'd be pretty brutal.

                Damn and it sounds just like a dark fic and something kelsey would say lol, whether he compiles is a different matter though. True and god forbid they slight him then they get put on a much shorter leash becoming more exaggerated in his mind now he perceives them as the Cinemaphile cope

                yeah the push of indie and the freedom to create is peak, though i feel the go to is comics, animation is to expensive. Even indie games are cheaper than most animated
                webseries at times. But i like them though like TADC.

                spinal? lol wtf but i get your point they work because they are scummy and just opps. Ah yeah two of my faves and I haven't drawn them or made a green about them how sad. The elders must battle their friend in a edge lord larp sesh gone wrong imagine they have a moment of clarity looking at themselves in like a camera that ole what am i doing with my life moment they are adults being kids, the fresh meat line just makes it worse lol

                Ha sounds fun again let's try and wait til next week though before another cotc thread lol. also man you really took to this collin concept even more than me who is a bit timid about him lol. Cool though seems to have slowed down so maybe you'll make it and hopefully i do too. True i'm a basic b***h kek, but yeah the level of guard dropping is hot in a wholesome outcome and even hotter if forced or taken, now i imagine her being tricked into strip dueling

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                True, or the power of friendship coming in clutch like in the movie kek. Yeah he seems like her was a nod to it, they even made him a former member of the elf kids...though someone else having his perfect role would be funny. As for Craig I could see him being something unfitting like Aragorn, and Kels would work as a hobbit or dwarf honestly. Only one that stood by her was Stacks and that was probably a miracle in of itself. So many potential shame-induced masturbatory spirals kek. Yeah she mentions them and we see a lavish puc of each but that's it.

                Kek thanks means I got it about pitch perfect there, and yeah it'd probably take a sacrifice of some sort, whether or not she can comply we'd have to wait and see. If his view of them was already a bit skewed, they'd go above and beyond making them irredeemable.

                Yeah I suppose we'll have to wait and see if most of these animated projects survive, I agree with you on comics and games too though.

                Was just meaning them being spineless kek, went a bit too far with that one, but yeah that's more or less it lol. Maybe we can both change that soon enough kek, and I could honestly see that, bit a soft redemption for all of them even if they'll go their separate ways good, really adds to the level of fricked he's at.

                Of course lol, gives us a lot of time to brainstorm and compile stuff. Kinda helps I'd had a general "what if X unacceptable group ended up in the creek" in mind, and you took it further than I would've. Hopefully, though the bump posts might push us over, no biggie though. That right mix of all those conflicting ideas, and she'd definitely try, she's not one to back down from a challenge.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                She learns the harsh reality that doesn't work in real life lol. Yeah well techincally he should have been a hobbit lol, but i know what you mean. Lol yeah imagine him seeing his birth role stole kicks over the food table "this is bullshit", that's funny because you know kelsey wants to be aragorn while craig wants to be a elf or something. Stacks still can't accept it she's not into that vibe but they were indoctrinated couple so they stick together kek, poor kelsey the gooner princess. Also oh yeah you are right guess it gives her more lore let's hope for her collin's never added.

                She thinks what more can she even give? He'd soon become the worst in existence, all it takes is a slight accidental bump and their on his shit list now

                The good thing is were getting a ton of indie animation/comic/game studios so were already seeing growth and change in that case.

                Yeah the phrasing i was like huh? also yeah they are sadly they are. Hopefully yeah next thread probably, true my idea was the realize man were grown ass men still playing the same games we did as kids. Mark and evil kenneth have a flashback fight like obito vs kakashi. Bro is such a incel he has to have a massive age gap gf, part of me would love to see this on tv to see fan reaction

                Yep sounds good, plus then we'd have time for the other thread if it last kek. Also well good I'm not the only horny monster around lol most of it was for the bleached idea and the hotness of correction art. Happy you took to him i feel less cringe about it. also It is what it is

                Managed to find a few related to the discussion in addition to some others in case you wanted inspiration regarding the armor.
                https://catbox.moe/c/bdyo80

                oh nice I'll start thinking about it later may do some doodles at work or something I'll post em in the other thread though

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                A reality just as cold and rough as the ground her face ends up smushed against. Yeah kek, can only squeeze so many lotr refs in at once, plus I think hobbits are copyrighted lol. b***hing about how he wouldn't act anything like that while Kelsey just looks done any time people mention how small she is. Lmao good point, sticks with her because she'd feel like she'd been faking it the whole time otherwise, and that's more accurate than any power fantasy she muses about. Yeah though I'm sad that girl from camp didn't show up proper, and I can only imagine how she'd characterize him.

                One can only imagine what he has in mind, for all we know Stacks won't even recognize her if she returns. They make him think it was borderline premeditated kek.

                It's honestly quite astounding how quickly these smaller industries popped up, quite inspiring lol.

                Was too much of a stretch yeah lmao, and hopefully we get more ballsy villains as time goes on. Yeah fingers crossed there, and that's the kind of existential dread we should've seen more with them lol. Would be so melodramatic it hurts and I'd love every second of it. Dark manchild triad kek, and honestly I would love that too, the takes would be compilation-worthy.

                Yeah lol, and that's a good point too. Not by a long shot that's for sure lmao, bleached is definitely something I wanted to tap into when it came to this thanks to the juxtaposition in terms of tone, the correction stuff was a big bonus. We are cringe but we are free, and pretty much.

                Just glad I could help with the process kek, and yeah I get that feeling all too well. That works kek.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yep sad reality for the jobber knight known as kelsey. True that she'd be a forced hobbit lol, also huh are they? makes sense seeing as DnD never uses the name and most fantasy media stays away from it truly sad then. Damn future kelsey is more fricked up than collin kelsey kek, she's in a lesbian bed death relationship lost her friends to her fetish and is left unsatisfied and feeling isolated as a freak true sad end. Ha oh i was still talking cadet, but yeah the camp girl was only a one time thing I suppose lol

                He even may realize he went to far lol, but he'd love to see stacks reaction as she'd be next. Also yeah exactly and really in some circles of Cinemaphile they really do that sadly corrupt a innocent thing into a massive slight.

                Yeah that it is, really good for the community and shows how much fans really are tired of corpos and shills. It's cool not that bad, also yeah ballsy villians are so missed. I want me a glorious bastard or a guy that thinks he's right to the point he won't change just something fun again. Until they look and see they are too grown ass men play fighting around some kids lol even making the sound effects kek. I'm sure tons of fans would ship it and the reaction would be perfect but evil kenneth should be a manlet so it's even more jarring he wears a mask so you think he's just a big kid lol

                I forgot to reply to it, but yeah I definitely see her thinking it's just a fun game at first or a challenge until she "gets a clue" heh and gets ryona'd and demolished. Poor thing it stops being fun when it hurts and she really has to take the clothes off, she tries to only take the shades off at first but he tells her to keep them on it'll ruin it for him otherwise.good to hear I need more anons into it that aren't compensating or secret massive racist, it just fits and the show has so many poc it's perfect for it. "I'm cringe but that's based and i'd rather be no one else but me"

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So pathetic and yet we love her all the more for it kek. And I can just imagine seeing the top of her face at the bottom of the screen most of the time and she just squints whenever one of them's about to say something about her lol. Yeah the Tolkien estate's very fickle about how it's used. True, at least Collin Kels has a shot at some kind of redemption, this one's already made her bed. If I were the commissioning type I'd definitely get a pic or two for it. Oh no, I meant Sparkle's rival, said she was a former friend and summer reading partner, guess I added the camp part myself. Picrel lol

                That's definitely saying something given how remorseless he's been kek, and yeah she'd probably be fearful yet morbidly relieved to be at Kelsey's side again. It's a damn shame, but it does make for a good premise at least.

                Yup, fans blazing their own trails while companies with actual money manage to lag behind lol. Exactly, ones that'd make the term villain actually mean something again. That's such a great mental image lmao, and I can imagine even the kids find it super cringy rather than badass like Mark and Alexis' fight. Oh definitely, might've become a "proship" icon, has all the hallmarks of one kek. Do like that idea too, basically just a slightly bigger version of his kid self, probably has the same faded clothes incorporated into larger pairs he had specially made.

                Kek, probably thinks she has the upper hand until she realizes he was going easy on her for a sec. She'd definitely get flustered after hearing something like that but still go through with it after a scoff. Yeah the pickings are kinda slim there, and yeah it's such a delicious contrast bringing something more "real" into this mostly idyllic setting. A motto a lot of people need to live by.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                She's our number 1 cringefail hero. Not only seeing the top of her head, feels like a joke collin would make, something something sexist better to only see the top of a girls head lol. Sad because they weren't fickle enough about RoP. Yeah and she has no monster to blame at the end of the story, just herself. Oh which one? actually I am the comming type but I just bought a shit ton lol. Ah interesting age ole evil magic girl lol.

                Hey he's giving her what she wanted, also by the side of what's left kek.Truly it does best when the hero isn't much of a hero but also correction is the best for it as then the small slight makes it all ok.

                Yep, like the new rocksteady game and how their are indie loot shooters that are much better. Make a series about a true moraless villian verses a modern mc it'll be hilarious. Heh i feel the kids actually think it's cool because kid logic, but then they see themselves in like a video or mirror and realize whole frick were grown men fighting like kids, Also yeah probably would be a fave of theirs, I feel it'd be poetic but hilarious manlet tier villian.

                I feel he'd go easy at first to make it seem friendly and fun maybe that's how he convinces her to make it a bet or to swear or something. Then he starts dogging her and beating her mercilessly. I feel he wouldn't say it ruins it but maybe put the mask back on and say it makes her, her you know. Yeah I love when a chad monster is put in these type or worlds me and my bro used to think of what if a real bully was added into SU, but yeah contrast and as you said "mary sue gets a clue" vibes, stuff like happy go lucky getting broken is my secret fetish kek. Ralph was ahead of his time literally.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                A people's champion in its purest form kek, jobs better than the rest. Lmao I can definitely see that, he's relentless when it comes to her fics and headcanons so he'd definitely be a 4th wall breaking heckler. Can't say no to that much dough unfortunately, plus at least the original movies are still here to enjoy. Yup, the sum total of a lifetime of follies taking its toll, least she's enjoying herself how she can even if it's junkie-tier. Mainly bad future Kelsey, would have more reach given she's of-age kek. Lol I get that feeling, and yup it's a bit basic but I'm a sucker for it.

                And then some lmao, and good point, Stacks probably sees a few glimmers of the girl she knew when she calls out to her.

                Little guys running circles around the big ones with ease lol. Has his guards dogpile the MC after he tried to give him some heartfelt speech about how it doesn't have to be this way. Oh I could see that, maybe they even see them shift into their DnD-sonas where in reality they're wearing some cheapo plastic armor since Mark doesn't want to ruin the good stuff. So much fanart saying the quiet part out loud, even just him having his hand on her shoulder would be enough in some cases, and it definitely would be. Peter Pan syndrome so strong it physically manifested itself kek.

                That'd work, lull her into a false sense of security by making it seem like a bit of friendly sparring before just creaming her, would probably even put one foot up on her chestplate for added effect. Probably takes her a second to process it and she just goes "Oh! Oh..." Yeah someone that can't and won't be changed by the power of music and friendship, like if they'd made Kevin an actual piece of shit in SU kek. Yup, modern cartoon logic seeing how the real world works in the best way possible, and I really do hope more see the light there. Absolutely, better deconstruction of the villain's role than 90% of what came after.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Managed to find a few related to the discussion in addition to some others in case you wanted inspiration regarding the armor.
                https://catbox.moe/c/bdyo80

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fair enough, they did kinda take over the thread unintentionally, wondered if we got in too deep with this. That'd be best too, know our one artfriend just couldn't catch a break, and trying my hand a creek green doesn't sound half bad either! Probably comes close, wanting to see them for who they really are underneath. Yeah that's what I was leaning into, though Gaston or even Guts-ish hair and a more punk/biker-inspired getup could make him stand out compared to her, a Mad Max black knight as it were. Yup that's the one lmao.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                [spoiler]Yeah sounds fun, though it's feels so out of left field. also maybe in a few days or so we could do a thread based off the series just grab whatever models you can find and I'll make sure to be free lol. But yeah the idea is interest for both sides, idk why but the shades make it hot for me "shades have to stay on during the blowjob" lol. I get it though but the thing I like about tomboy/strong/confident girl breaking/feminization is the whole vibe of it's just with you, everyone else gets the classic persona but it breaks for you that feels like a true act of submission you know. But to add onto your idea imagine if he convinces her to grow her hair out as well poor thing doesn't realize she's already his at that point kek. Yeah the idea is he's like quagmire in that one scene "....y...you trust ..m..me" he's so scummy and used to breaking a girls boundaries and limits he is shocked with her blind trust and innocence. Most girls do the same to him where they just tell him to frick off or are confrontational. It makes it all the hotter when he has them bitting the pillow and arching their backs as he ruins them. But she and him build a repour so he feels more connected and almost bad.[/spoiler]

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's fair lmao, and also that sounds good to me I'll be sure to gather some ref material in the meantime kek. Part of it's probably not being able to read her intent, I know another guy that's really into faceless/helmeted girls for that reason. And I get you there too, that you're the one person she feels strongly enough about that she'll expose all her vulnerable mushy bits, stuff everyone else would've never expected from her. Probably doesn't even really say he'd like it longer, he just mentions how soft it is to the touch after stroking it and she decides to give it a shot. Says she's "just experimenting with it" if anyone else asks. That's honestly really sweet in a fricked up way, makes him feel a bit vulnerable too, knowing this isn't some carnal fling borne from him needing to correct a b***h. Probably feels a bit like a teenager asking their sweetheart to the dance and he almost gets into a self-loathing fit for giving into those saccharine thoughts, and also his "hidden" intentions for her as you said.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Cool Idk if it will last but hey least we could say we tried lol. Also yeah I'd appreciate it if the thread last I maybe able to finish my kelsey comic tonight. So I may do more kelsey cuck art or just start sketching for that thread. Ha nah now you've gotten me out of it lol that's scary, what if she wants to bite. I was just saying it adds to her masc side and cool vibe, the idea of a uncaring confident cool lesbian deepthroating as she looks up at you through shades a small line of tears going down her cute little cheek peak my guy. Well now that sounds sweet, I feel he wouldn't break as easily as her he's a scumbag but he may contemplate at first making her his exclusive hole, then that slowly goes to ok maybe slave to maybe cute obedient wife he's a dom type through and through just beings to see her as a person like you said. I like the idea of her needing love more than him, maybe even at first makes him more of a scumbag he's just a rich brat as we said and people would try and cope for him. "Oh he just had a bad childhood and had it rough" but he's literally jack horner and is like "nope I had wonderful parents and got everything I ever wanted but that's why I know eveything belongs to me". Also maybe give me ref ideas for how he should look as well guess I'll be making a second evil male oc lol

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Hey this thread lasted a lot longer than I expected it to, so anything's possible here, I'm sure it'll make it. Kek sorry, was kinda meaning something similar to what you said, her biting didn't even cross my mind. Do like it still being a visual shorthand for her persona and real self though. That works just as well kek, slowly becoming more comfortable seeing her as an equal, or at least as close he can get lol. Do like that too, just a chauvinist that's spoiled to the core, but her affection starts having a bit of an effect on him. As for refs, I could see him with bits of Hunter's features, maybe some raven black hair, and a getup halfway between a biker and Dracula from the Castlevania games. Welcome to pick and choose what bits work, or just do your own thing, you knocked it out of the park with Collin after all kek.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yeah that it did hopefully we can get back to these cotc threads making it to 500 again. Ha it's cool just the idea was placed in my head. True I feel the peak is still the ole she's still a rough tough beer drinking tomboy but she breaks sometimes and is meek and open around him. She can't be a equal in his eyes because of his ego but he's got spirit and that's what we like. I feel that's peak and most girls would love it since a lot of them simped for jack horner kek. Interesting to be fair collin was easy with the cotc character creator as a basic base and my own idea ahead of time. But this will be harder any hair refs/ideas maybe I'll just be a basic loser and make him dracula from steve lichman lol.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                True, also yeah I kind of hate it as it feels like it's connected to that meme of now join my found family. It feels with each new show now the redemptions and friendships are less and less deserved. Sadly yeah and even worse sense grace was the one that made him literally indoctrinating him. She made a whole cult and got the good ending wtf? she also made up a whole lie knowing it was a lie, Grace is a sociopath that got to win lol

                True I now sadly can't tell if I like the new wholesome dykebreaking route or the original plan kek. I do like the idea of him getting closer and closer to his goal but now feeling sympathetic because of how much he got to know her. He contemplates going through with it, she's almost complete but he questions if it will be wrong or not and more does he care? But a full on sleezeball hitting on a annoying but not creepy just misguided flirtatious character sounds fun. Reminds me of a fic someone I knew made of what if melodios got molested and harrassed by a guy lol.

                oh she's cute sad knowing it's guy centric so she won't be a potential best girl/main girl

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I can't really stand those types instead of using their freedom to push the story or jokes, like people of old used to. They do it as cringe as possible with shipping that no one really cares about like the SU wedding being half of the biggest arc shift special. He'll probably be a fan favorite because while he's basically op he had one of the worst lives and gets osbessed with making a peaceful world for his sis and others to never be fricked like him. Then the hero shows up and just does whatever lol

                It is what it is at this point, and now that we're over the hill with the series I'm abivalent about it. Hard to say there then, probably a sign that the fandom's having a schism kek.

                Lol he's actually gay and wanted me to help him get into female chars more, used Craig girls to boot. Either that or being broken in a different sort of way kek. Yeah I've heard they neutered his character a lot in an effort to humanize him, don't know anyone that likes her so that checks out.

                Lol just playing into what I've seen elsewhere, plus I thought it'd make for a nice contrast with her more masculine disposition. Do love your characterization more though, someone she never would've expected to make the first move or choose someone like her. Probably tries to act like he's soothing her nerves and being her shoulder to cry on when he's just softening her up for himself.
                The Glass Scientists, seems like it got enough recognition to be published in book form.
                https://www.theglassscientists.com/comic/chapter-i
                Either way it works so it's no big deal kek.

                True, also yeah maybe it goes into the dykebreaking/orientation play obsession that's became popular.

                Oh thought you meant straight went gay lol, but yeah sounds fun. But if lesbians can be obsessed with dick a gay guy can have waifus. Yeah as people said he's trying to ride the zuko wave and it depends on who you ask whether they succeeded or not. I just hate that now it feels you can only be manly and cool until you become good as a male then you have to grow a vegana kek. Tired of softbois I blame deku, hahaha crazy thought i was the only willow hater.

                They do say the guy that is most dangerous for a girl is the nice guy, overly nice and pathetic men are usually secret predators like a male feminist. Also I had a similar idea super feminine but I like the idea of butch/masc girl getting femininzed and cuteified. Ha truly he's a monster, I feel he'd lean hard into it as well. He's so nice and maybe even makes her think she can't say anything against it since she does the same moves on girls. Imagine them hanging out and he jokes about moves he'd try on a girl as he tries them on her. She's like ew bro come on that's not cool I'm not a normal girl, but he keeps it up "joking" of course.

                Oh I've seen it before never read it though, but premise doesn't vibe me up as much as the other but I'm a sucker for down and out girls

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Least there are a few that know better than to fixate on it, even Kelsey x Stacks was treated as budding romance and a matter of fact later on. Very much a fantasy Grimes vs Homer scenario, albeit he's actually made an effort to fix things here. Really hope this series takes off, anon.

                Maybe a bit yeah, it's become more prevalent so there's no point being a dedicated "hater" kek.
                Kek sorry for the misunderstanding, it honestly is, and yeah he even had a few before asking me for "help." I can see it now even down to the scarring, and it's either getting emasculated or just killed brutally like Simon was. Apparently not, but then again I only know a few avid toh fans so maybe that's just bias.

                Yeah the living definition of a wolf in sheep's clothing kek. And that fits with the angle more honestly, especially if she gets super flustered wearing a frilly dress. Definitely, playing up the kind and nurturing angle, maybe he even fools himself a bit kek. Love the idea of her own frick-ups clouding her judgement too, the double standard slowly cracking down with every little friendly jab at her.

                Yeah it's clearly playing more into the gay angle but hey it's something, and yeah the maid's a cutie from what I've seen.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Heh oh just realized my other was responding to this lol, so I'll reverse it and say yeah idk why bottom males is so popular. Like most girlbosses male friends are either simps or complete losers. Wasn't a fan of stacks x kelsey specifically the episode of it felt dumb "ha your elementary school friends said you are a self inserter and gay. You must be lol". Thanks anon of course I do too but I never get my hopes up kek

                I dedicate my life to hating lol. No need to be sorry bro, but yeah sad because he had so much potential to be the best character by miles I mean he is but that's because the others are just the luz squad and have no real relevancy kek. But yeah like you said Simon is an example that you can't even be redeemed as a man unless you become a submissive b***h. He was chad and did exactly what the girl did but stuck to his guns gets raped by a roach monster. Nah you about right idk why male characters can't be good and buttholes/strong anymore now they must be subservant or basically girls to be in these shows like marco and the princess thing

                I feel it'd be peak if he at first is a scummy heartless creep but after slowly breaking her down and having her open up being her only confidant. He starts to feel bad about slowly femininizing her. But he's like "in for a penny in for a pound" lol. Also yeah butch/tomboy wienery dominant girl slowly feminization and being embarrassed by being cute is kino asf. Her slowly being messed with by double standards and basic logic but mixed with little lies and gaslighting sounds interesting.

                Maid you say?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Are you sure Kelsey’s a bottom? At the very least, she and Stacks ought to be switches.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I think Bechdel said it shouldn’t be taken at face value?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Kek fair enough anon, and true better to have a bit too much freedom than little to none. That would've flowed better honestly kek. And true, knowing me I'd probably give into that urge too, despite her being one of my fave chars in the show now. Oh definitely, I just like the idea of her doubting her own sincerity here, and yeah they'd look at her very differently, probably even spread rumors that eventually get back to her friends. Absolutely, views herself as a dragonslayer or orc-carver yet jobs to randos all the time. Good point there, I mean there was even that storyboarder that tried to pitch a show about a lesbian knight constantly failing to find love. Didn't go anywhere but the fact she felt confident enough says something. Can't win em all lmao.

                More or less lmao, could even see her inner monologue when she isn't around him shifting a bit, first she hears her own voice...but then her mental projection of him takes over. Kek, he's studied her body language and such around him for a while, probably a bit like Paloma did with everyone's speech patterns.

                A decent silver lining there kek. Yeah, larger-scale projects are kind of doomed due to creative differences, but you raise a good point with the Gillman stuff. Maybe even a bit like Snoot Game too, eke out your own place in the internet ecosystem.

                It's completely understandable if you don't get to it right away, priorities lol.

                Oh for sure, though in most cases it'd probably be to get a decent sense of how these characters are, would probably make other fanworks like the Veenter/Amiter Secret that much more potent. Rooting for you, anon! And kek that's fair, everyone's going to have their parade rained on.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >as she flicks the bean with the other.

                How does she do it? Is she more of a lay-on-her-back type of person or lay-on-her-stomach-and-throw-a-hand-back-there type of person?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It could go either was but she personally strikes me as the former, if only to properly express her internal conflict via monologue.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              would she be a good wrestler?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Looks like the show has officially wrapped production, the co-creator just said today was his last day on it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Full post

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Gotta say, it's been surreal seeing the slow death of the show over the past 15 months. Watching it just hasn't been the same since the day Matt announced S5 was cut in half

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          We had a good run, 5 whole seasons.
          But I never thought it would end ever.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The crew was planning to have it run for a long time.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Is it bad that I find some of the CotC staff to be kinda hot?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You think they’re hot?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I don't think they should be runway models but they have like this geeky attractiveness to them, in some way.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It makes them cool.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    New nomination!
    https://www.instagram.com/p/C2iYKORyhbs/
    https://www.instagram.com/p/C2jbUBWujzw/

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Kelsey, the new host of tonguey.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Poor thing seems to have lost its eyes...and its defined flesh beak.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Kek, his tongue likes a second jaw from Alien.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ew

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's bloody awful I tried a few times but it is just unwatchable, I rather the summer island one.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Different strokes for different folks.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      ?si=5o87jxGj6DmV9gpo

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I need more cute art of the baseball twins.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'll repost the reference I made.

      https://youtu.be/9i4T6nRPC1Q?si=5o87jxGj6DmV9gpo

      NEW RECORD!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'll repost the reference I made.
      [...]
      NEW RECORD!

      Here's some more made by another anon didn't catch the name.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I remember seeing this, it's good art

          Yep she's a really bad girl needing correction.

          Oh I remember you mentioning this before, I do like turner I'll see what I can do no promises.
          [...]
          Heh oh you finally watched the ep I see? But yeah Kelsey may have a bit of a fetish

          Kek I thought it was more based on her own foolish delve into the wrong side of heroine stories. Since most go down the wrong path, I can't remember how it went before actually. But yeah she more traps herself and more brings out Collin's inner dom, which plays off her awakening maso.

          Sounds hot asf, the idea she stops going in the way of cuckqueaning and more into heroine in peril sounds funny as well. Or maybe it goes down that one other path we talked last thread

          >I do like turner I'll see what I can do
          I hope you draw it, it's a good idea.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Wasn't this show about kids playing and pretending to have adventures? What the hell is even happening anymore?
    My God, Adventure Time fricked up western cartoons

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That’s what the bulk of the episodes are.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Oops

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >About to watch through the last season

    I don't think the show has been cancelled yet.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Oh you poor thing, it's been cancelled for like a year now. They are just waiting to drop the final eps for some reason.

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >all this weird fanfic shit about Kelsey with some made up character

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's not easy being Kelsey.

      how tall is kelsey, she seems really small even for a elementary student

      She's a womanlet, doomed to be short.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >She's a womanlet, doomed to be short.
        Eh, there's worse fates for a woman. At least people find short girls endearing

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It gives her a lower center of gravity.
          Shell be invincible in wrestling.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Really wouldn't anon, her body is just not peak optimal for it. She's too short and fat, her reach would be trash and her body would have more grab range and it'd be easier to pin her. Being fat in wrestling isn't that big of a benefit unless you just go full fat ass but she's short so it just puts her in bad groupings. It's based on weight so she'd basically probably be put against someone who's like 5'8 6'0 but all muscle, compared to her who's like 5'0 and more fat and a lil muscle. She'd either get suplexed or gassed fast.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              What about kicking the groin?

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    how tall is kelsey, she seems really small even for a elementary student

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Can anyone here do crossover art?

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Really is amazing how much this goober grew on me over each season.

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They look like they're into black magic.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Probably

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Love how this could honestly be from the show itself personality-wise.

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why'd her hair come undone

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Kelsey's fighting skills are underrated.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >She thicc

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Her badonk is a lethal weapon, for real.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Idk about that if it was she'd have beaten Maya anon.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It's because Maya kicks ass, and chews bubblegum.
            And she was all outta gum.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              True but kelsey loses to randos a lot as well.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Kelsey has mad skillz, dawg.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Idk about all that, she literally jobs a lot.
                >This your goat

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                She dodged the ball. Just needs work.
                She's training her proficiency in agility.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                that's some good sword work and reaction time

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Epitome of beanmouth

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How is a 3 day old thread still up? Was there a mass exodus I missed, Cinemaphile seems really slow this year

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Probably a mix of things, anon.

      Thicc

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Thicc gamer girl

        Damn, Cristal and her camgirl streams.
        Yes. Her name is "Cristal" with an I.

        That name confused me thought it was an error.

        >Elieen being crushed by a car looks funny.
        Yeah, it is. And funny edit, it'ss well made.

        https://files.catbox.moe/gk663h.png

        Egad

        the glutes

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Egad

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Double cheeked up on a Monday, ass
            >Spoiler
            That's an even better edit. ZA WARUDO!

            >Double cheeked up on a Monday
            should be a holiday.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I like these more suggestive drawings.
              You're the first to draw fanart of Cristal.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You're the first to draw fanart of Cristal.
                I feel honored but sad she doesn't get much love.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well she does only show up once.
                Cristal probably trolls Mark on ranked.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Well she does only show up once.
                Fair but she seem like one of those characters that get some love despite showing up for a few seconds. She does and probably their fourth survivor in DBD, running loops on the killer.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Maybe if the show was a bit more popular.
                She does the sweat strategies on Killers.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                True at least their something. Cristal toss the distraction rock at the killer before leaving through the exit.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >You're the first to draw fanart of Cristal.
              I feel honored but sad she doesn't get much love.

              It's a shame that she got overshadowed by her little sis, but you're doing her justice with these anon!

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Considering that we’re talking about a girl who managed to build an army of kids using the sewers as a hangout, she had competition.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                True, not even life-saving thighs can undermine

                i do what i can

                And trust me, it's a lot anon.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Every little bit help I suppose. Hopefully I am free when the next batch of episodes are out.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I like this outfit, is this a reference?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It the outfit of that one fan art posted with her and junk lord.

                Nice

                thanks

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Cool

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It the outfit of that one fan art
                Damn I had forgot. It's a cute outfit.

                Damn, put that homie through the fence

                Kelsey's packing head, has a arm cannon.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Apparently that outfit was for the opposite day episode which I don't really see.

                Hope so too, anon! Also did a great job with the dress here, love the little dolphin pendant you added to her hat too.

                Time will tell. The pic had her walking with a dolphin walking crane so i went with it.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My guess would be that since they're both a bit rough n tumble and not afraid of getting filthy that they'd end up being all prim and proper...wonder if that'd mean the Tea Timers become little trash gremlins during opposite day too.

                Kek I'm the one that posted it and even I didn't catch that little detail, really good eye.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Tea timers are gremlins, mud kids are the clean kids, and Paloma isn't being a menace. Saw the pic on deviantart with author saying its them on opposite day.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I have rewatch that episode, I had forgot.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nice

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Hope so too, anon! Also did a great job with the dress here, love the little dolphin pendant you added to her hat too.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i do what i can

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Double cheeked up on a Monday, ass
          >Spoiler
          That's an even better edit. ZA WARUDO!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      4 days now.

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I need CoTC girl feet, NOW!

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Damn, Cristal and her camgirl streams.
      Yes. Her name is "Cristal" with an I.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Egad

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    is this just comfy slice of life mixed with whatever live action role play the kids do in the forests or does something magical actually starts to happen?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It drifts into supernatural territory a few times.

  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    In case anyone is wondering how CotC is doing on streaming, is the 47th most popular title on Max in the past day, watched slightly less than a Bobby Flay cooking show but more than Diners, Drive-Ins, and Dives

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Is that good?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah it's pretty decent

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes

  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >ywn be the weirdo most of the creek avoids because you like to run around naked

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      In a non-Y7 version of the show I think you'd be in good company.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Like (you)?
        Jokes aside, I think so too, but it's still fun to think how some of the creek would freak.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Kek, and yeah it's probably a miracle that no one caught Craig out in the buff in that totally-not-Gucci episode.

  44. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Bad show

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Somewhat

  45. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Love how derpy Cannonball looks there, ate an ice pop from behind the gas station and woke up like that.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He ate the ice cream that doesn't melt.

  46. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I really liked this show and it defined an era of my life just as significant as any of the classics that I came to love. A spiritual successor somehow to both Clarence and Steven Universe in a way that felt distinct from both. A super imaginative show that tapped into cool childhood memories. Also, Jeff Rosenstock, which is badass.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      As someone that wishes they'd followed this when it was new or in its prime I'm delighted to see someone this enthused about the series. And he definitely gave tbe soundscape of this show a distinct flavor, very garage band-ish in the best possible way.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      As someone that wishes they'd followed this when it was new or in its prime I'm delighted to see someone this enthused about the series. And he definitely gave tbe soundscape of this show a distinct flavor, very garage band-ish in the best possible way.

      Good, now spread the word.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't know, anon. It's too late now.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Still worth trying.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I mean even shows that were performing alright still got canned, we can only hope it sees a sort of fandom renaissance at some point.

  47. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Racist ass family and show. Craig U mean.

  48. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone else buying the movie when it comes out on DVD in March? I already have it pre-ordered

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nah really as much as I like it unless it has something extra special no real point the series is over and I know the crew won't see much if any of the money.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, most of the potential behind the scenes goodies have already been posted on twitter, like Serena and Craig's alt forms, not to mention all those animation WIPs and scrapped storyboards.

        Waiting for the inevitable complete series DVD box set which will likely have it included

        Hoping we actually get one at some point, maybe they'd include an art booklet for a collector's edition but that's a very big maybe.

        The full episode of Jessica's Big Little World that CN uploaded to their YouTube is almost at 200k views, it's also the most watched video on their channel from the past month

        Do wonder what the viewer age demographics would be like for that one.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          wait they finally posted more serena stuff? next thread someone needs to drop the new stuff. we mostly only dropped day one stuff

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah one of the main artists dropped them a few days ago, one of the borders even posted her work for an alternate take on the fight featuring the scrapped ones. For as extra as they went throughout the film I'm surprised they skimped out on those.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Based got any links or names? I'd love to see it all. Makes sense the movie finally dropped on CN last week right?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, Ben Anders' the artist while Ash Tahilan's the boarder. Latter did bring up the prospect of it eventually being made into an animatic, also these two occasionally retweet stuff from other crew members so there's more stuff like a bunch of sketches of what would become Serena and her crew. And yeah seems they released these to coincide with the broadcast.
                https://twitter.com/benfo/status/1747007247308263563
                https://twitter.com/oni_hat/status/1749614477253955840

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                based thanks bro, they were probably told to wait until the official release on CN maybe we'll get more after the dvd release as well.

                A people's champion in its purest form kek, jobs better than the rest. Lmao I can definitely see that, he's relentless when it comes to her fics and headcanons so he'd definitely be a 4th wall breaking heckler. Can't say no to that much dough unfortunately, plus at least the original movies are still here to enjoy. Yup, the sum total of a lifetime of follies taking its toll, least she's enjoying herself how she can even if it's junkie-tier. Mainly bad future Kelsey, would have more reach given she's of-age kek. Lol I get that feeling, and yup it's a bit basic but I'm a sucker for it.

                And then some lmao, and good point, Stacks probably sees a few glimmers of the girl she knew when she calls out to her.

                Little guys running circles around the big ones with ease lol. Has his guards dogpile the MC after he tried to give him some heartfelt speech about how it doesn't have to be this way. Oh I could see that, maybe they even see them shift into their DnD-sonas where in reality they're wearing some cheapo plastic armor since Mark doesn't want to ruin the good stuff. So much fanart saying the quiet part out loud, even just him having his hand on her shoulder would be enough in some cases, and it definitely would be. Peter Pan syndrome so strong it physically manifested itself kek.

                That'd work, lull her into a false sense of security by making it seem like a bit of friendly sparring before just creaming her, would probably even put one foot up on her chestplate for added effect. Probably takes her a second to process it and she just goes "Oh! Oh..." Yeah someone that can't and won't be changed by the power of music and friendship, like if they'd made Kevin an actual piece of shit in SU kek. Yup, modern cartoon logic seeing how the real world works in the best way possible, and I really do hope more see the light there. Absolutely, better deconstruction of the villain's role than 90% of what came after.

                She's rocky if he could never even come close to winning. He would he's a 4d being he even effects other kelseys lol. True they should have but it'd have been hard, yeah the originals are pretty kino. Never heard of a sex junkie she created a new entity, also yeah she comes of age and gets worse sounds about right. yep just of other series and ideas I liked, then maybe you should check out "gushing over magic girls"

                Truly the people's champ collin is, also imagine she sees what's left of kelsey then just his meat letting her know her nightmare isn't over yet.

                Sadly yes look at palworld or undertale yellow, tons of games have come and been hits when they are super indie or low production cost. he? you don't know what we do huh? but yeah I get you I imagine a scene like deadman wonderland where a bunch of adults dogpile a middle schooler and kick and punch them. kek sounds hilarious and very realistic to them both being cope larpers, imagine it goes from badass to lame adults to two kids fighting over nothing. Also yeah that peter pan syndrome won't fly in court kenneth lol.

                Ha well he does it over and until she's left with nothing, probably as she goes to just her underwear grinding against her or groping and playing with her (obviously just a accident). I do like the idea of him making it seem friendly then going all in may even do it on the 2nd or third match so she doesn't just forfeit to soon. It's also a power thing for him so after he starts he doesn't stop until by the end she's nude and crying and bruised covered in dirty and scratches. Yeah would love that also yeah kevin was treated like a monster but he was pretty chill and nice, we do need more "holy shit this is a real villian/butthole moments" no redemption just brutal.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not a problem lmao, and yeah it's probably a lot of NDA frickery since it seems they were working on it as early as 2020 and nothing had leaked beforehand. We can only hope.

                Exactly, made to suffer yet never complains. Kek I like that, tethered to her and she's never able to eacape him. Anything to keep the IP alive and in the public conscious a bit longer, and that goes for the 00s ones and their 70s counterparts...kinda. Halfway between admirable and deplorable, pioneering new forms of sexuality and addiction in one lol. Yeah plus she's easier to lewd while staying on-model. Definitely looks promising, might give it a watch at some point!

                Living out all the sexually-charged revenge fantasies no one would dare replicate. Sees exactly what's waiting for her, right that moment no less.

                Shows sometimes all you need is a clear vision and a small crack team of friends to help out lol. Sorry I meant she lmao, not sure how I missed that typo, but yeah that sounds about right just no restraint whatsoever. That'd be both funny and extremely sad, interest just tanks once it gets to them being kids. Would be the type to try and say they're soulmates too, dude claims some anime deity told him it was fine too.

                Jumpcut after jumpcut of her ending up on the ground in progressively less clothing each time, and of course "workplace" accident happen all the time, she should be used to it by now. Oh good point, makes it seem like a difficulty curve before it just spikes. Just leaving her there completely helpless as he still has every last piece of his armor on, could be extra cruel and sell part of her armor off as a hidden "fee" of sorts, and I had a feeling you would kek. Arguably treated worse than the diamonds despite just coming onto Stevonnie a bit, and it'd be such a breath of fresh air.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yep how it goes but thank god for twitter and blabbermouth creators. It's her lot in life also yep a forever cycle like batman and joker but that would give her some pride in what they are lol. True but some ips need to just become public domain or allowed to rest and be protected, a bad adaptation is worse than no adaptation. heh poor kelsey she's destined for degeneracy .True cadet is fun and easier to not break model. you definitely should i mean bdsm magic girl abuse seems up your alley

                She then screams she can do taxes and book reports trying to save her skin. He is Cinemaphiles only hope

                Yep and really it's better that way less backstabbers and forced mandates and bs. Like look at sweet baby inc, which is a advisor on games in equity and inclusion such a useless job but it exist and it's what makes modern writing. yeah it'd be pretty funny just a complete beat down also this the scene i referenced https://youtu.be/-g2JR3HQrxs. He'll still get got eventually maya would snitch lol. also yeah it'd be sad realizing your childhood pasted you by and now your a pathetic adult.

                Not the she should be used to it kek, poor girl getting harrassed and she just has to take it even worse she's trying to be one of the guys so she tries not to beg or whimper as she's beaten but it hurts so much. Ha bro sure isn't sympathetic lol, we pull a last minute she actually is happy as his slave wife gets the modern villian redemption lol. But yeah back on point yeah sounds about right he doesn't even need it he's rich or successful knight but knowing she'd have to buy worse armor or go without makes him chuckle. I feel this'd be early on when they just start being friends. He plays it off as hazing. Yeah weird how the fandom treats him and ronaldo they are fairly decent just dumbasses or not kissing steven's ass. He really is called a rapist for hitting on a girl kek, he wasn't even that pushy.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yup, some people just can't help themselves when it comes when it comes to school stuff like this. Very true lol, and that's true, makes it seem like she actually have a fighting chance against him. Oh absolutely, thought in their defense it's probably difficult to gague how it'll be received without getting well into production. Lol had so many little incidents in her early life that seemingly prepped her for this. Kek, meant older Kelsey in that case but it applies to both honestly. Didn't realize it got that intense lmao, perfect.

                Says she'll gladly be his little bookworm if it means being spared another day, and kek the "hero" they deserve

                Yeah no chances of a higher-up cutting production time in half or giving a low ad budget, not to mention the mandates yeah. Oh god that shit, just the worst apects of the industry all mashed together. Pretty close to what I had in mind honestly, also what a little psycho lol. Could see that being Omar's arc with her, convincing her to talk and the cops just clear the entire forest and try him for a multitude of shit. The average Cinemaphilener experience nowadays I'm sure unfortunately.

                Yeah the joke was that's the cover story he told her for if someone asks. Not to mention the emotional toll showing that much skin to him would have on her. KEK would be funny to see how people would react to that. Didn't consider that, but honestly would be funny, any time she chafes or the armor rides up the fabric she gets reminded of how bad she fricked up, while he keeps a part of it around as a trophy. Yeah that works, just a little friendly fricking around, should be glad he didn't make her streak through town post-beatdown/armor-snatching. It's even worse in Ron's case since he was technically right about the gems, and yup barely even acknowledge he backed off when they unfused.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah good stuff comes from artist now a days. The real question is does she based on her life and skills lol. true but at least read a damn script. Poor girl her life full of degeneracy, also yeah it's cool works either way. Yep gets pretty horny in that series.

                What a almost cute nickname without the connotation lol, would he spare her though is the question? Heh truly

                Yep truly shitty times now, instead of creatives and bean counters working together it's just people budgeting things they don't understand. Then mix it with bs views and ideas shoved in like why ben 10 became more childish because a executive thought kids couldn't possibly relate to a growing up ben/teenage ben. Yep they are a notiorous company now but not for a good reason just any game that went to shit or had forced diversity or cringe bs in it usually they were the consultants kek. Ha well that's good yeah that's a pretty iconic beating scene of a kid, just love how brutal it is and how soft his voice is he just sounds like he doesn't deserve it. Damn this has become a whole nother show now cops and arrested lol, the end of the creek too no kids can go there after that shit. I like to believe we're more refined and unique. We know ourselves better than most especially here on Cinemaphile which is one of the least toxic boards.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Absolutely, hoping these guys find some decent work after the show. Most likely not, but she'll believe it anyways, just like in all her favorite novels. Might even give the mud girl a run for her money in terms of how filthy her mind is, and yeah people still love the IP that's what matters. Should've figured, it's Japanese after all.

                Would probably use it to mock her, say how cute she looks despite being a littl shut-in, and it's hard to say, maybe he'd threaten Kelsey with that thought if she steps out of line.

                Yeah there used to be some amount of synergy before they went full steam ahead with mass appeal which resulted in very lukewarm content that's forgotten as quickly. Least indie devs aren't held to the same standards as these big ones so they can just do their own thing. Yup lol, and it's definitely quite brutal, would've fooled me if not for that video evidence. Kek maybe, could imagine it only applies to the other side, but then rumors slip through that he's out there like a fricking cryptid. That's fair, we've kinda accepted certain things and just carry on or use it to our advantage, and that's also fair the occasional Cinemaphile thread still sparks some neat discussion and concepts.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They will only ones who won't are the cancelled ones lol, but actually yeah who knows with CN studios being dead and most animation being already made or pre canceled they maybe fricked. She believes she can do anything and ends up face down ass up for god knows who. Ha I was thinking about her because of pencil anon, but she's too innocent lol and yeah kelsey is dirty on the inside. but a bad adaption weakens that also yep they are too based.

                Stacks now gets her own unique bullying oh no, also i guess now they are like slaves/concubines as long as they stay in line they won't be abused and just be used for basic relief. Also funny if he used them both against each other or worse made the once lovers fight and be against each other.

                True they all got somehow scammed by these new age snake oil salesmen, like that one person that tried to twitter cancel a company for not having a feminist consultant then after said hey I'm a consultant. Literal created a problem then extort AAA companies for it, but it doesn't work on indie as they are invisible both online and to them as they have no real money yet. So as you said less standards and more creativity instead of game by committee. Yeah it fits the get a clue vibe especially since that's the plot as well, (good boi sees horrors untold, framed for murder sent to a death camp/torture prison has to grow some balls to survive because everyone is evil and killers). He somehow escaped is funny but it'd be funnier if he just got let out because of some mental defense and now he just lives in the woods in shame lol. Also yeah Cinemaphile is pretty accepting at times less people schizoing or doxing more just people being horny degenerates as a group lol. An we are notorious for having the most wholesome/creative work and art. Most artist come here because well other places are rude asf (i would know).

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Good point kek, better to be between jobs than blacklisted, and yeah their best bet seems to be going with a third-party studio that does whatever. Probably feels like a step down after the nigh-absolute freedom they enjoyed with Craig, but again better than nothing. Countless would-be rivals rubbing her defeat in her face for ages. That's fair, even the smut of her's very vanilla all things considered kek, but yeah Kels is a little freak. True, less reason to latch onto it, and they really are lol.

                Definitely, though I could imagine he keeps her on edge by not doing that much to her...until she manages to disobey a rule she didn't know about. That'd certainly work, keeps them around the house even when his mother's occasionally home. I could definitely see it, breaks their wills to such an extent that they're at each other's throats.

                Yeah it's all a bunch of means to an end stuff, they're crafty lol. Good point there too, they're not actively drawing attention to themselves, and yeah true blue passion projects rather than products. I can now see why they call it Deadman Wonderland kek, lot of "character-building" moments. Oh that could definitely work, might even see some changes in him that bring him closer to the version we have in the series, though more somber than chill. Yeah the best threads are unsurprisingly chock full of fap fuel lmao, and that's a good point, you even have people shifting towards "drawfriend" more than "drawgay" now.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah blacklisting is prominent now but most of them will be fine, just going to nick or disney or maybe indie who knows. They are only would be because she's not on THEIR level even though she says otherwise lol. We can find a reason and change that kek. Kelsey the freak is her title to her onlyfans she has fan meet ups and let them ryona her and they choose her daily pain for the streams.

                Ha what a dick the ole not telling her all the rules just so she breaks it he doesn't even want to punish her just to see her beg and grovel lol. They want to be loved and not be punished imagine they do something like he sits them down (well he sit they have to kneel with only their collars on) "now which one of you broke the microwave?" "It was her sir I swear I wasn't even on kitchen duty" "Oh you b***h it was her I was doing your homework for the week master" Collin looks at the camera as they wrestle on the ground in the background "I broke it, it sparked at me so I punched it. But it was getting to wholesome in here".

                Yep they are but seems they are being pushed out and being noticed now so hopefully they won't last to much longer. Yeah I always wanted to try making a game but I'll probably do a comic once I improve myself so in 50 yrs kek. He definitely got character built, that's not even the last beat down this 13 yr old gets lol. Also because he's in a prison someone tries to take his goodies sadly pretty good but dark. Now that's a fun villian redemption goes from pro ship chad to broken grown hermit loser. That is true but that's because horny is power we all know the truth, also yeah i've noticed I still say drawgay because it's the original but yeah I've seen friend and anon people also try to give names as well lol.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I feel he knows she wouldn't tell because of her pride and desperate need to be one of the guys lol. She can't fathom this being true abuse/ryona because it's just sparing and on her honor she agreed to the bet. To her it's her fault for not being ready/strong enough. She would definitely feel weird about that, she's shown more skin to a man that she's ever shown to a woman. Idea of him also semi cucking her because he's a attract famous knight or prince so he gets tons of girls. Imagine after brutal beat down he brings some girls over but they are just his arm candy for the night, she tries to hide herself and they are like "oh it's not the first time he's had another naked girl in front of us sweet and it won't be the last time I bet *gives her a wink*". Poor thing almost thinks they'll spend the night with her too but they meant each other lol. She just is left lying there on the ground naked as the day she was born besides her shades, she can hear the girls giggling to him as they walk off whispering about how much of a loser she is and how they can't believe that was a female knight. He then runs back to her who's sobbing worse than before behind the shades, he plays it off as being kind and caring giving her his fancy cape to cover herself. This in her mind makes up for everything and makes her feel weird about him almost wanting to go with him, but he leaves her there with maybe a half assed kind fake nice guy retort. Also He'd never do that he wants her to be his so he'd definitely not share her, I do like the idea of the armor maybe even tricks her or convinces her all she can afford is more feminine bikini or female knight armor poor girl be a fun joke if that's her first day in the big royal capital too like a little frick you lol. Everyone else is so nice and cool but this sets up the true tone of her story being tricked humiliated and abused. Truly she is fem knight johnny bravo but without the chadness to save herself

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Good point, her body's bruised enough no need to rough up her ego some more too kek. Thinks no one could find sexual gratification in such a noble passtime to the point she undermines her own abilities. Would probably feel a bit dirty about it, and yet something about knowing he's taking it all in excites her despite her leanings. Kek I really love that setup, the inadequacy radiating off her the entire time would be almost visible and he's loving every second of it, brings more satisfaction to him than his occasional arm candy ever could. Do love the imagery of her wrapped up in his cape too, bet she'd even give it a sniff after her leaves her before catching herself. I was just thinking ENF with the straking bit, no one can lay a finger on her of course, which she thinks is quite chivalrous despite him being the one that did it to her in the first place. The bikini armor's a stroke of genius, the exact kind that people like her creator would detest kek, would make this subversion of a subversion all the more potent. Both the reader and the girl expect things to go smoothly but it's anything but, and that's accurate, absolutely none of that machismo that gave him an edge.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nah less that more him just building up brownie points and faking his personality and intention. Heh poor thing really drinking the cool aid sadly not realizing she's the victim, he's not a friend but she thinks he's one of her first. I see her slowly wearing the others welcomes down so it slowly becomes just him like suzie/carl for johnny but she's carl as she's the one naive to the abuse. The poor secret misyogny fetish of your typical dyke lol, she can't help but feel like it's what she deserves making it her fault and finding it badass having the strength to do what you want. Might makes right has been placed in her head sadly, as you said the imagery of the beaten to vomiting and crying on the floor nude loser and the winner walking away with everything emphasizes this. Perfect end for the first ep, he's taken her pride, a bit of her hope, her armor probably most of her cash because buying new equipment also her dream by having the girls. Now I imagine through out their "friendship" he sends vids and pics of him with girls saying stuff like "sorry busy, or wish you were hear" just adding emphasis to all her relationship failings lol. She sees this as the same as izuku putting his cape around eri, but it's actually a toxic vie for power for him kek. The idea of her smelling it is hilarious and sad, it's probably the most affection she's ever gotten. She thinks it smells like him and of strength and everything she desires catching herself but a throb is deep in her poor heart. She thinks it's noble and means it's a joke but he's just possessive and already sees her as his property. Ha nooo not trying to spite her but you are probably right lol, barefoot bikini/loincloth armor imagine the poor girl realizing life isn't grand it starts raining of course kek, another reason for her to be enveloped in his scent as she cowers in a alley in his cape all played as a joke like JB endings. Seems this the end see ya next time or that thread.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh I meant she wouldn't bruise her own ego, he did enough damage lol. He's enjoying the sweet and salty taste of an all-day sucker, and I'd say that dynamic works. They do seem to love being the underdog in every scenario, so it's no surprise she'd gladly accept her place. Showcases just how brutal their world is beneath the somewhat safe-looking YA fantasy veneer, and yeah it kickstarts her personal journey right up front. Oh she'd definitely jill off to those at night, though who she's picturing herself changes bit by bit throughout the series. An altruistic power move that she couldn't refuse if she wanted to, and yeah it'd send her already confused mind reeling even more: inadequacy and her feelings for him creating all sorts of weird fantasies in her head. She probably gets a slight chill when shes expression remain neutral after she tried to laugh it off, but there's a little rush of something else too. Oh of course not spiteful in-universe lol, and that really does capture the kinds of lows she's gonna experience.
                That it does, it's been fun! I'll see you on the other side.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh I see ya that he did beat her worse than a drunken father after losing his job lol. Ha god I loved that line as a kid but yeah that he does he used the money from her hard bought armor to pay for his fluzies and partying for the night, the same armor probably bought by her none noble parents working for years. Accepts her place in her new unknowing toxic "friendship" also yeah they do love to be the victim and make themselves seem down bad but here she actually is but she's the opposite she tries to look on the bright side or a mix of a Johnny bravo esque egotism. Actually maybe that's how it works she has Bravo ego so seeing it all happen is a bit fun until it breaks lol. Ha it looks YA but he makes it X rated kek, but yeah that sounds really good. A good personal journey she didn't even realize she needed but whether it's for the good or bad shall be seen. Ha at first she jills to the idea of correcting those arm candy b***hes or being the one to win and go party with pretty girls but by s3 or 4 she's jilling to being the girl of course like kelsey more forced and humilated as now she wants a strong knight to take her. Poor girl thinks he's her all might when he's really her all for one kek, he's out here ploting on her down fall. I feel the best part is he only shows up every few eps most of it is life and girls that push her down more than him he just makes it worse. Tries to laugh it off but it's too late already in the air what happens next. yep i don't want to be a twitter type and yeah the lows are gonna be low it seems. I kind of hope the creator doesn't come to Cinemaphile imagine within a year the idea actually takes off hard. Comes back tells us the show was greenlit but it's already broken kek.

                Yep til next time bro hopefully see ya in another thread in a few days or the next cotc

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Waiting for the inevitable complete series DVD box set which will likely have it included

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Good for you! Now you have a hedge against it getting removed from Max (knock on wood)!

  49. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The full episode of Jessica's Big Little World that CN uploaded to their YouTube is almost at 200k views, it's also the most watched video on their channel from the past month

  50. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Garbage fricking show.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Oh, no, I am not ending this thread on a sour note.

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