What does Cinemaphile think of CSA?
Is it a realistic portrayal of a Confederate victory in the American civil war?
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CSA: Confederate States of America
What does Cinemaphile think of CSA?
Is it a realistic portrayal of a Confederate victory in the American civil war?
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it's a pretty solid film
It nails the causes of the war.
Was pretty funny
Been 20 years since I’ve scene it though
What's the scenario? Do the CSA take over the whole USA or is there a modern day USA and CSA next to each other?
The CSA gets aid from Britain and France and crushes the USA, conquering and spreading slavery
That doesn't seem very accurate? Didn't the confederation just want the right to self-govern as opposed to staying in the original federation? (and not just for slavery mind you, a whole bunch of reasons).
The documentary explains the timeline drift pretty well
The film's entire premise is basically a self-parody it's that fucking stupid.
Overthrowing the US Government was never a Confederate war goal, neither was conquest of the North. No one, not even the most die-hard Fire-Eater fanatics, entertained such notions.
The parody ads for shit like Coon Chicken Inn though are fucking hilarious..
It does make some good points.
Slavery was on the outs regardless of the civil war. Technology would have made slaves obsolete and slavery would have prevented the consumer market from taking off.
how would a backwards agraian society with half the population illiterate land on the moon? Unless of the engineers were slaves or something?
Movie explains it, they don't remain half illiterate
Makes sense.
Most likely they would become 90% illiterate.
Are you implying that the US managed to land on the moon in the 1800s? And that literacy was much better up north that time?
>how would a backwards society composed of industrial serfs with half the population illiterate land on the moon?
And yet, here we are.
>how would a backwards agraian society with half the population illiterate land on the moon?
Good morning sirs
Slaves had a higher literacy rate than Russian serfs at the time
Tbf Russian is hard
Cinemaphile did it better
>csa fighting nazis
kek only on Cinemaphile
Don't forget:
Semen stains the mountain tops.
It’s a /misc/ thing
Do people actually think that if the confederates had won that there would be rampant slavery of every race in the modern day? Slavery was already persona non grata basically the world over at that time. the global pressure on the confederates to abolish it would have been insane, I would be shocked if it lasted even another 20 years in this scenario. the only real difference would have been that it would be on the confederates terms that it ends, which means probably booting them all to Liberia.
Slavery literally still exists so the idea that a state building itself on the model of a slave economy wouldn't continue it if given the chance is silly
Hell, the documentary even explains how slavery evolves into versions we recognise today
>Slavery was already persona non grata basically the world over at that time.
MASSIVELY incorrect. Slave-trade in Asia and especially the Middle-East was HUGE at the time, and in South America imported nearly 10 times the number of slaves that North America did via the Middle-Passage in the same amount of time. Some of the biggest backers of continuing the slave trade were African royalty that had found in their Kingdom's wealth on selling the people they had conquered.
China didn't even outlaw slavery until the 1912. By the time the Ottoman Empire was even getting around to it, they were already destroyed as a result of WWI.
What are you talking about? Europe dominated the whole world at that time. Brazil was one of the last holdouts of slavery and they abolished it in 1885, around twenty years after the civil war ended. If the CSA had survived they may have been able to propagate it a bit longer, what with the Knights of the Golden Circle wanting to enact their goals and they likely would have been able to absorb Haiti, but in the end it was a dead-end and the industrialists in the south would have won out.
Look at the south today and tell me the USA wouldn't be third world tier if they won. Constantly shit economy, poor standards of living, least educated. Constantly low down on every metric. The east and west coast basically drags the south kicking and screaming into first world status.
those are just the highest scores and standards of living the states with the highest percentages of black residents. they're not capable of our standards of civilization.
This pic makes me smile thinking that the amount of time it took to build the first Apollo rocket was longer than the existence of the Confederacy.
>Is it a realistic portrayal of a Confederate victory in the American civil war?
Absolutely not.
We would have just ended up with two countries, best case scenario.
CSA would have probably outlawed slavery eventually due to international pressure anyway.
Maybe they ould have nabbed Cuba and some more land from Mexico.
>CSA would have probably outlawed slavery eventually due to international pressure anyway.
lmao they didn't end slavery in the face of their own annihilation in 1864, and mocked Cleburne and the others proposing it in their Congress
Brazil didn't outlaw slavery until 1888.
>lmao they didn't end slavery in the face of their own annihilation in 1864
Why would they bother? That wouldn't have saved them. The Union wasn't fighting to "end slavery"; they were fighting to forcibly preserve the greater Union of the country and prevent secessionists from splitting off.
This. In my opinion, the CSA would eventually have seized Sonora and Chihuahua from Mexico. When WW1 came, it would be the CSA and Canada vs the USA, who's aligned with Germany. The entire Canadian front would be bogged down in one giant trench war, and Barrels (tanks) would be invented to make the final breakthroughs. In the following years, the CSA would devolve to fascism.. likely blaming their defeat (although inevitable) on a stabbed-in-the-back theory but instead of the israelites, it's the blacks. A fascist leader would take control of the country and lead it into a second world war. The Confederate of course would be stopped at the battle of Pittsburgh, the city of steel. Interesting to think of plausible what-if scenarios.
Can we let the confederates have Shittsburgh
I'm going to say this is the alternate reality where Thomas Jackson was snot gunned down by friendly fire and was able to turn Gettysburg into a total rout of Union forces, causing foreign powers to take them seriously.
The Confederacy was already taken seriously by foreign powers since the beginning of the war.
When the American Civil War started, asking intellectuals and historians across Europe what their prediction for the outcome of the war was, the majority consensus was that the succession would be successful due to the South's resources and supposedly tactically superior commanding generals.
doesnt this film low key name the J & they hand in slavery historically?
how come the north wins in every major civil war?
american civil war
russian civil war
spanish civil war
vietnam civil war
korean civil war (until the un intervened)
Not in Sudan.
I said major
>russian civil war
>spanish civil war
there wasn't a "northern" faction in these 2 civil wars
in russia is was the moscow area vs the rest of the country
in spain it was more east vs west
>in russia is was the moscow area vs the rest of the country
the revolution started in petersburg. the bulk of the white movement was concentrated in southern regions
Not the English Civil War.
Or wars I should say.
We always get "What if the Nazis won WWII?" and "What if the CSA had won the American Civil War?" but never "What if Republican Britain had survived to the modern day?"
>Today Lord Protector Winston Churchill has issued a warrant for the arrest of Anarchist Agitator Mohandas Gandhi.
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