Both of these. High particle amount in the air creates more condensation seeds in the atmosphere leading to more rain while global warming increased water evaporation, creating more humidity which condensates into clouds and rain. And during the day you don't see the sun because the city is under a blanket of dense smog, which can come down and smother everyone like it's London all over again if you have bad luck with the weather.
The thing about the cyberpunk setting is it kind of it like GTA. It's mostly just crime novel tropes, mixed in with high technology. That's kind of the point.
I don't think Gibson even remembers what he wrote. There are plenty of sequences in those books that are pretty much explicitly meant to be bright and sunny.
Here's a line from Mona Lisa Overdrive, since I'm this much of an autist. Page 60. >Well, it was fricking hot in Florida, like a sauna, the only beaches that weren't private were polluted, dead fish rolling belly up in the shallows. Maybe the private stretches were the same, but you couldn't see them, just the chain-link, and the guards in shorts and cop shirts standing around.
Man you're really bad at reading and this is a tangent but yeah it is still really fricking hot at night in the rain and you need shorts
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Anonymous
This scene isn't set at night though. It's set in the day time. >Mona could see the sun through a couple of rips in the black plastic they kept taped over the window.
Woah, what the frick is that doing there?
2 years ago
Anonymous
What in the absolute frick does this have to do with the original post anymore
2 years ago
Anonymous
Because it's a meme image that is supposed to "prove" cyberpunk can only be set at night, since Cinemaphile had a year long argument about this.
Though, actually knowing Gibson, he was actually confused that the game wasn't showing any scenes of people traveling through 90's Lawnmower Man looking cyberspace, not that it had scenes set during the day.
2 years ago
Anonymous
see:
The quote about cyberpunk needing to take place at night isn't Gibson's, it's Pondsmith's
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes, and there's a quote underneath of Gibson saying the game looks like GTA.
2 years ago
Anonymous
and where did he mention the sun
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's implied at least by the guy who put together the image, because this was coming at the end of months of complaining that the game didn't look like Blade Runner.
>the game looks like GTA.
Is what he said >the game looks like GTA because it's sunny.
Is what you thought he said
It looks like GTA because gangs engaging in urban warfare looks like GTA, and that's also straight from his books. What's it supposed to look like?
2 years ago
Anonymous
who cares what the guy who made the meme image implied? you're just bad at reading comprehension man
2 years ago
Anonymous
You can scroll to the top of this thread, and see this very argument still happening.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>the game looks like GTA.
Is what he said >the game looks like GTA because it's sunny.
Is what you thought he said
The story was really good, but way too short and the gameplay was generic future FPS with powers. The RPG aspect might as well not have even been there it was so watered down.
>Do you agree with this list?
No. That's a pretty contrarian list, especially at the bottom. Why include something like Tron, Twelve Monkeys, Brazil etc?
These lists never have one of my favourites, Strange Days. I'd also rate Terminator 2 to be more "cyberpunk" than Dreadd or A.I. for example.
Rainy weather is the best. I wish I could sleep under a slipshod tent in Middle Earth somewhere on the edges of Lothlorien with my robes and hood all I had to cover up.
>Cyberpunk is a subgenre of science fiction in a dystopian futuristic setting that tends to focus on a "combination of lowlife and high tech", featuring futuristic technological and scientific achievements, such as artificial intelligence and cybernetics, juxtaposed with societal collapse or decay. Much of cyberpunk is rooted in the New Wave science fiction movement of the 1960s and 1970s, when writers like Philip K. Dick, Michael Moorwiener, Roger Zelazny, John Brunner, J. G. Ballard, Philip José Farmer and Harlan Ellison examined the impact of drug culture, technology, and the sexual revolution while avoiding the utopian tendencies of earlier science fiction.
What is an example of that "utopian earlier science fiction? I can't come with 1 example right now. All the older science fiction movies that I remember had also a negative message about technology and the future like Metropolis (1927) or Things to Come (1936).
That's pretty much just Blade Runner. Almost no cyberpunk works are actually just rain at night all the time. Even 4049 has it's desert scenes.
Gibson's actual novels are almost nothing like the meme version of cyberpunk that exists in pop culture. Lots of variety in location.
Maybe it's from pollution
Both of these. High particle amount in the air creates more condensation seeds in the atmosphere leading to more rain while global warming increased water evaporation, creating more humidity which condensates into clouds and rain. And during the day you don't see the sun because the city is under a blanket of dense smog, which can come down and smother everyone like it's London all over again if you have bad luck with the weather.
stop overthinking it nerd. It's just a cliche that has evolved to become shorthand for that futuristic dystopian nightlife aesthetic.
Global Warming, chud.
Tell that to the homosexuals on Cinemaphile
never thought id' see genuine seething at the sun.
Sunposting was truly something else
>You can only say the city's name 50% of the time
Truly dystopian
'City' is so impersonal. The loss of identity, the lack of personality. Just concrete, glass, steel, and crime.
the basedjack is unironically in the right here. If you botch the aesthetic and atmosphere, the cyberpunk genre falls to pieces.
So cybepunk aesthetic can only take place in eternal night time?
Basically yes. Or you can put it in a covered city, constant stormy clouds, or something else that occludes the sky.
Yes. CP77 has always looked like GTA with bodymods with the sole exception of the first trailer 8 years before release.
The thing about the cyberpunk setting is it kind of it like GTA. It's mostly just crime novel tropes, mixed in with high technology. That's kind of the point.
>every game is GTA
is this a thread about every game? or is this a thread about cyberpunk?
that's just a lie
Yes. Don't you know? Everything important in a cyberpunk story either happens at night or on particularly cloudy days.
Downloaded a mod that makes it overcast or rainy 80% of the time with the sun coming out rarely.
Genuinely makes the game better and fits better with the tone the story was going for.
>Several patches and mods later and the game is kino
Literally told every motherfricker this exact thing when it came out.
>the game was ultimately so shit that this debate was completely inconsequential
Lmao
its my GOTY purely for being so fun to laugh at. modern games are so shit but this one was hilarious
I don't think Gibson even remembers what he wrote. There are plenty of sequences in those books that are pretty much explicitly meant to be bright and sunny.
Here's a line from Mona Lisa Overdrive, since I'm this much of an autist. Page 60.
>Well, it was fricking hot in Florida, like a sauna, the only beaches that weren't private were polluted, dead fish rolling belly up in the shallows. Maybe the private stretches were the same, but you couldn't see them, just the chain-link, and the guards in shorts and cop shirts standing around.
The quote about cyberpunk needing to take place at night isn't Gibson's, it's Pondsmith's
He's not criticizing the sun man. all that reading you do and you're still bad at it
Yeah, it's raining at night, while the guards stand around in shorts.
Man you're really bad at reading and this is a tangent but yeah it is still really fricking hot at night in the rain and you need shorts
This scene isn't set at night though. It's set in the day time.
>Mona could see the sun through a couple of rips in the black plastic they kept taped over the window.
Woah, what the frick is that doing there?
What in the absolute frick does this have to do with the original post anymore
Because it's a meme image that is supposed to "prove" cyberpunk can only be set at night, since Cinemaphile had a year long argument about this.
Though, actually knowing Gibson, he was actually confused that the game wasn't showing any scenes of people traveling through 90's Lawnmower Man looking cyberspace, not that it had scenes set during the day.
see:
Yes, and there's a quote underneath of Gibson saying the game looks like GTA.
and where did he mention the sun
It's implied at least by the guy who put together the image, because this was coming at the end of months of complaining that the game didn't look like Blade Runner.
It looks like GTA because gangs engaging in urban warfare looks like GTA, and that's also straight from his books. What's it supposed to look like?
who cares what the guy who made the meme image implied? you're just bad at reading comprehension man
You can scroll to the top of this thread, and see this very argument still happening.
>the game looks like GTA.
Is what he said
>the game looks like GTA because it's sunny.
Is what you thought he said
You have literacy issues
Cyberpunk is a fricking cringe joke genre at this point.
god that game sucked
i liked this game
The story was really good, but way too short and the gameplay was generic future FPS with powers. The RPG aspect might as well not have even been there it was so watered down.
Blame blade runner (1st one) for that since they decided to use rain to cover up the extensive set and lot they were in
“Do androids dream of electric sheep” had acid rain as part of the background dystopia, so it was even before the movie,
>Noir setting
>its always dark
WTF!
>Gothic setting
>There's always weird German architecture
WTF
>Action movie
>theres always fights, car chases and explosions
WTF
>Romantic comedy
>theres always dumb b***hes and jokes
WHAT THE FRICK ARE GENRES, IM GOING INSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANE
You can make a cyberpunk movie but where the weather is not always rain. Desert planet for example.
it's a convenient excuse for wet surfaces to reflect the pretty lights
This is correct
Cyberpunk goes hand in hand with high specularity
It's to symbolize oppression and depression.
You guys always talk about "cyberpunk movies" as if there are more than 3 movies in that entire genre.
>Blade Runner
>Blade Runner 2049
>GITS
>GITS Live Action
>Elysium
>Akira
>Dredd
>Tron
>Robocop
>The Matrix
i'm sure i'm probably missing some too
The Fifth Element?
District 9.
>animeshit
doesn't count
>tron
>the matrix
not cyberpunk, it's isekai
>dredd
>robocop
>elysium
it's just how present day america looks
Johnny Mneumonic
Hackers is unironically like the most cyberpunk movie ever.
Cyber City Oedo
Minority Report
Total Recall
don't forget they're in Chinatown eating noodles
My life is cyberpunk?
It's for maximum friendship. I wish Karl Urban's popularity means there's some closure for Almost Human.
In Neuromancer, the city was beneath a dome, which condensed all the water. Thus it was always raining, despite being indoors, kind of.
Besides, rain is cool. It always rains in dramatic scenes in movies. (Like during funerals, LOL!)
I think you're confusing the earlier parts of the book, with the parts on the space station.
I'll confess that it's been almost 30 years since I read the book, so that's totally possible!
That's what makes it cyberpunk you cyberdouche.
Rain is kino, frick off.
15 best cyberpunk movies of all time.
Do you agree with this list?
https://www.slashfilm.com/771494/the-15-best-cyberpunk-movies-ranked/
>Do you agree with this list?
No. That's a pretty contrarian list, especially at the bottom. Why include something like Tron, Twelve Monkeys, Brazil etc?
These lists never have one of my favourites, Strange Days. I'd also rate Terminator 2 to be more "cyberpunk" than Dreadd or A.I. for example.
I've had feels you people couldn't draw wojaks of..
Rain in films no matter the genre is always based.
Rainy weather is the best. I wish I could sleep under a slipshod tent in Middle Earth somewhere on the edges of Lothlorien with my robes and hood all I had to cover up.
Definitions of cyberpunk:
>Cyberpunk is a subgenre of science fiction in a dystopian futuristic setting that tends to focus on a "combination of lowlife and high tech", featuring futuristic technological and scientific achievements, such as artificial intelligence and cybernetics, juxtaposed with societal collapse or decay. Much of cyberpunk is rooted in the New Wave science fiction movement of the 1960s and 1970s, when writers like Philip K. Dick, Michael Moorwiener, Roger Zelazny, John Brunner, J. G. Ballard, Philip José Farmer and Harlan Ellison examined the impact of drug culture, technology, and the sexual revolution while avoiding the utopian tendencies of earlier science fiction.
What is an example of that "utopian earlier science fiction? I can't come with 1 example right now. All the older science fiction movies that I remember had also a negative message about technology and the future like Metropolis (1927) or Things to Come (1936).
Star Trek and the Jetsons.
This is the right answer. They are referring to pulpy and campy stuff, like Buck Rogers, etc.
For utopian science fiction, check out communist genre fiction. North Korea is still churning that shit out to this day.
That's pretty much just Blade Runner. Almost no cyberpunk works are actually just rain at night all the time. Even 4049 has it's desert scenes.
Gibson's actual novels are almost nothing like the meme version of cyberpunk that exists in pop culture. Lots of variety in location.
its acid rain
Its because acid rain was the enviromental concern du jour during the late 80s and early 90s you stupid zoomer fricks