Personally I think RotK would have been better with a scene of Mortensen gently impregnating Liv Tyler's elvish pussy while one of Howard Shore's uplifting pieces played.
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Ya the brown dudes who swear allegiance to saruman but there is one black guy in faramirs troop in the cave after they capture frodo and sam
Reminder that Jackson intentionally darkened the skin of the orcs. In the novel they were described as having lighter skin and/or green/yellow skin (i.e. they resembled sicked/jaundiced lower class englishmen.)
>most actors were unknown at the time
kek, what a fucking farce
it's a reddit-ttier opinion, it doesn't have to be true or accurate in the slightest, it just has to be sensationalist enough to make homosexuals gawp and say "this - so much this!!!"
People seem to forget that a lot of these actors didnt have very big roles during the 1990s. Sean Bean probably had the biggest role since he was a Bond villian. Go look at Ian McKellen's listings for the 90s and 80s, its all B and C-tier shlock. Same with Christopher Lee. Zoomers don't really understand how different movie consumption and production became after DVD became a thing, even VHS didn't induce the same level of consumption from normies, plus all of the celebrity being on Twitter makes them far more well known than they ever were back in the 1990s where an actor would get famous and suddenly disappear for a decade.
Your point is wrong. DVDs didn't make people into movie experts, kek. If anything, you could argue that if renting a DVD was easier then people would think more about the VHS they were taking out. But all of that's largely irrelevant to who's in what movie anyway.
It was far easier to rent a DVD and mail it back to Netflix which had a far larger library than go to the local video store for a VHS. Cheaper as well.
In the early 2000’s basically everyone had binders full of DVDs my man. I’ve still got like 2,000+ DVDs from the early 2,000’s. Nobody was having that many VHS tapes. My parents had maybe like 30ish movies on VHS and half that was Disney shit.
>Sean Bean probably had the biggest role since he was a Bond villian.
Patriot Games was huge, too.
>Go look at Ian McKellen's listings for the 90s and 80s, its all B and C-tier shlock.
He was fucking Magneto.
>Zoomers don't really understand how different movie consumption and production became after DVD became a thing, even VHS didn't induce the same level of consumption from normies
That is false. DVD literally began the demise of video rental (before streaming dealt the final blow). Between rented tapes, movies on broadcast TV, and cable, Gen-X (especially late Gen-X) and early Millennials had far better exposure to old movies than Zoomers or even later Millennials. We may have *owned* fewer movies in the VHS era, but we *saw* far more variety.
I'm not some Zoomer pulling this out of my ass: I graduated from college the same year that FOTR hit theaters and none of these people were unknown to me. Orlando Bloom, Dominic Monaghan, and Billy Boyd were the unknowns. Also Andy Serkis.
>He was fucking Magneto.
Released in 2000, the three actively known people of the LOTR group was Sean Bean, Hugo Weaving and Ian McKellen, because they had big name roles in the run up to LOTR, he rest were just riding low budget shlock films or were minor roles in any film they were in like Liv Tyler.
Born in 94 and can confirm everything this anon says. Which ironically disproves a few of the details in your argument, but ultimately underlines your overall point.
McKellen, Holm, Weaving, Blanchett, Lee and Tyler I'll give you but Elijah Wood and Sean Bean? Nah, these guys basically made their names with this trilogy.
People seem to forget that a lot of these actors didnt have very big roles during the 1990s. Sean Bean probably had the biggest role since he was a Bond villian. Go look at Ian McKellen's listings for the 90s and 80s, its all B and C-tier shlock. Same with Christopher Lee. Zoomers don't really understand how different movie consumption and production became after DVD became a thing, even VHS didn't induce the same level of consumption from normies, plus all of the celebrity being on Twitter makes them far more well known than they ever were back in the 1990s where an actor would get famous and suddenly disappear for a decade.
You've got to be fucking kidding me. Videos were bought big time, people made collections out of them. That's why a lot of video still isn't worth all that much I imagine. You should really only talk about things you actually know about.
>Sean Bean >Elijah Wood >John Rhys-Davies >Ian McKellen >Ian Holm >Sean "Rudy" Astin >Hugo "Agent Smith" Weaving >Liv Tyler >Care Blanchett >Christopher fucking Lee >basically unknown
Get the fuck out of here.
Even Vigo was an established actor, if not a star per se.
Normies had no idea who they were. They might recognize some of them like "the villain from Goldeneye", Magneto and "that kid from Deep Impact", but they wouldn't know their names. Weaving was probably the most well known at the time because of The Matrix. Even Christopher Lee was a nobody to normies at the time. When Attack of the Clones came out I remember people saying "ooh, that's Sarumann".
>"the villain from Goldeneye"
Sean Bean was in a lot more than Goldeneye. For starters, he was also in Patriot Games and Ronin. And many of us knew him from the Sharpe series.
>"that kid from Deep Impact"
Elijah Wood was probably better known for The Good Son than for Deep Impact.
>Weaving was probably the most well known at the time because of The Matrix.
I would argue the opposite. The Matrix is pretty much all that he was known for. Most of the others I listed were recognizable names, not just recognizable faces, at least to me at the time.
>Even Christopher Lee was a nobody to normies at the time. When Attack of the Clones came out I remember people saying "ooh, that's Sarumann".
By "normies," you mean children. Boomers and Gen-Xers knew who he was, if only because of The Man With the Golden Gun, The Wicker Man, and Gremlins 2.
I recognised Weaving from "to Wong Fu thanks for everything" before the Matrix, but then, I might be a homosexual.
Heavenly Creatures was a thing, though. The biggest beneficiary of LOTR in terms of notoriety was absolutely Orlando Bloom.
Heavenly Creatures was excellent. But I hadn't watched that. I'd watched The Frighteners because it went to rotation on American TV despite doing not-so-well in the kinoplex here.
so you don't listen to dialogue or pay attention to body language? I don't remember the music being romantic in emphasis. I will have to go back and listen to it. Still, you seem to have misinterpreted the scenes in general. Maybe the music was more lighthearted / emotional to showcase her attempts at making a connection. Giving him the opportunity to showcase he deeply still has feelings for his love even though he hates the fact she gave up immortality for him.
I watched it with a group, everyone thought they were flirting, all the girls said he shouldn't have acted like that. The body lenguage also says flirting. Again, the film just plays it off as a romance, its a weird couple of scenes that feel out of place.
>viggo, dumbledore, saruman, agent smith, orlando bloom, liv tyler, ian holm titanic captain, cate blanchett, sean fucking bean are basically unknown actors at the time of filming
whoever made that idiotic picture is a turbo retard
The only unknowns were Viggo, the Hobbits (on purpose), Gimli (Indiana's sidekick but he's in heavy dorf makeup so people didn't recognize him) and Orlando.
Sean Bean was in Goldeneye and peak Sharpe, McKellen was in X-Men and Christopher Lee was that old boomer who was always in movies if they don't want Sean Connery around.
Then the mid-2000s came and it amplified their popularity with Orlando getting the biggest push in his career until it fizzled out just as fast.
Jonathan and Bernard got the short stick tbh, at least the Hobbit actors knew that they will be one hit wonders and graciously bowed out of acting.
Biggest KWAB is still the Lestat guy who was originally meant to play Aragorn, all dem vampire movies got into his head and he JUSTed his career far harder than Brendan ever will.
Lmao even 10 year old me at the time knew who Elijah Wood was. He was Huckleberry Finn and that kid from the movie where Macaulay Culkin killed cats with a homemade crossbow
Where's the 2023 edit with twitter outrage?
Personally I think RotK would have been better with a scene of Mortensen gently impregnating Liv Tyler's elvish pussy while one of Howard Shore's uplifting pieces played.
actually Sam was his bull, he'd be lucky to watch. Jeez, did you even read the books???
uhmm.... where's the poc??!
Thats the best part! There are no coloreds, unless you count the orcs I guess.
in mordor
Where the shadows lie
they're with the bad guys in the third movie
There's exactly one in the whole series
heh
>heres you "swarthy" southrons bro
theyre middle eastern like haradrim are supposed to be, only dumb americucks think hardrim were naggers
i know im putzing around. also your obsession with america and its people is unhealthy, you should call your mother today and chat with her.
>s-stop noticing how dumb we are
no
is that what calling your mother means to you? ill pray for your storm cloud of a mind.
I accept you're concession.
My black son smiles and his eyes well up with tears every time that guy shows up on the elephant.
They fight for the dark lord
Gandulfs actor is a israelite
No. You’re thinking of magneto.
>literally named Gandalf the Gray
You have to wait for the remake.
THEY'RE AT HOME
WASHING THEIR TIGHTS
the orcs and evil men
on my toilet
Ya the brown dudes who swear allegiance to saruman but there is one black guy in faramirs troop in the cave after they capture frodo and sam
Reminder that Jackson intentionally darkened the skin of the orcs. In the novel they were described as having lighter skin and/or green/yellow skin (i.e. they resembled sicked/jaundiced lower class englishmen.)
>most actors were basically unknown at the time
go ahead anon
Yea, but like thousands of people die on screen
>Sean Bean
>Elijah Wood
>John Rhys-Davies
>Ian McKellen
>Ian Holm
>Sean "Rudy" Astin
>Hugo "Agent Smith" Weaving
>Liv Tyler
>Care Blanchett
>Christopher fucking Lee
>basically unknown
Get the fuck out of here.
Even Vigo was an established actor, if not a star per se.
it's a reddit-ttier opinion, it doesn't have to be true or accurate in the slightest, it just has to be sensationalist enough to make homosexuals gawp and say "this - so much this!!!"
People seem to forget that a lot of these actors didnt have very big roles during the 1990s. Sean Bean probably had the biggest role since he was a Bond villian. Go look at Ian McKellen's listings for the 90s and 80s, its all B and C-tier shlock. Same with Christopher Lee. Zoomers don't really understand how different movie consumption and production became after DVD became a thing, even VHS didn't induce the same level of consumption from normies, plus all of the celebrity being on Twitter makes them far more well known than they ever were back in the 1990s where an actor would get famous and suddenly disappear for a decade.
Your point is wrong. DVDs didn't make people into movie experts, kek. If anything, you could argue that if renting a DVD was easier then people would think more about the VHS they were taking out. But all of that's largely irrelevant to who's in what movie anyway.
It was far easier to rent a DVD and mail it back to Netflix which had a far larger library than go to the local video store for a VHS. Cheaper as well.
>even VHS didn't induce the same level of consumption from normies
DVDs *were* more popular but not by that much, in the pre-digital era literally everyone and their mother had a VCR and owned multiple tapes.
Source: am old
In the early 2000’s basically everyone had binders full of DVDs my man. I’ve still got like 2,000+ DVDs from the early 2,000’s. Nobody was having that many VHS tapes. My parents had maybe like 30ish movies on VHS and half that was Disney shit.
>Sean Bean probably had the biggest role since he was a Bond villian.
Patriot Games was huge, too.
>Go look at Ian McKellen's listings for the 90s and 80s, its all B and C-tier shlock.
He was fucking Magneto.
>Zoomers don't really understand how different movie consumption and production became after DVD became a thing, even VHS didn't induce the same level of consumption from normies
That is false. DVD literally began the demise of video rental (before streaming dealt the final blow). Between rented tapes, movies on broadcast TV, and cable, Gen-X (especially late Gen-X) and early Millennials had far better exposure to old movies than Zoomers or even later Millennials. We may have *owned* fewer movies in the VHS era, but we *saw* far more variety.
I'm not some Zoomer pulling this out of my ass: I graduated from college the same year that FOTR hit theaters and none of these people were unknown to me. Orlando Bloom, Dominic Monaghan, and Billy Boyd were the unknowns. Also Andy Serkis.
>He was fucking Magneto.
Released in 2000, the three actively known people of the LOTR group was Sean Bean, Hugo Weaving and Ian McKellen, because they had big name roles in the run up to LOTR, he rest were just riding low budget shlock films or were minor roles in any film they were in like Liv Tyler.
Born in 94 and can confirm everything this anon says. Which ironically disproves a few of the details in your argument, but ultimately underlines your overall point.
McKellen, Holm, Weaving, Blanchett, Lee and Tyler I'll give you but Elijah Wood and Sean Bean? Nah, these guys basically made their names with this trilogy.
You've got to be fucking kidding me. Videos were bought big time, people made collections out of them. That's why a lot of video still isn't worth all that much I imagine. You should really only talk about things you actually know about.
>most actors were unknown at the time
kek, what a fucking farce
Normies had no idea who they were. They might recognize some of them like "the villain from Goldeneye", Magneto and "that kid from Deep Impact", but they wouldn't know their names. Weaving was probably the most well known at the time because of The Matrix. Even Christopher Lee was a nobody to normies at the time. When Attack of the Clones came out I remember people saying "ooh, that's Sarumann".
>"the villain from Goldeneye"
Sean Bean was in a lot more than Goldeneye. For starters, he was also in Patriot Games and Ronin. And many of us knew him from the Sharpe series.
>"that kid from Deep Impact"
Elijah Wood was probably better known for The Good Son than for Deep Impact.
>Weaving was probably the most well known at the time because of The Matrix.
I would argue the opposite. The Matrix is pretty much all that he was known for. Most of the others I listed were recognizable names, not just recognizable faces, at least to me at the time.
>Even Christopher Lee was a nobody to normies at the time. When Attack of the Clones came out I remember people saying "ooh, that's Sarumann".
By "normies," you mean children. Boomers and Gen-Xers knew who he was, if only because of The Man With the Golden Gun, The Wicker Man, and Gremlins 2.
I knew Elijah wood from the The Faculty lol
Also valid. A fair number of 90s kids probably knew him as Huck Finn, too.
I recognised Weaving from "to Wong Fu thanks for everything" before the Matrix, but then, I might be a homosexual.
Heavenly Creatures was excellent. But I hadn't watched that. I'd watched The Frighteners because it went to rotation on American TV despite doing not-so-well in the kinoplex here.
You’re thinking of Priscilla, my misguided homosexual.
everyone knew Rudy
Who the fuck is Rudy?
Plus he was in The Goonies, too.
Christopher Lee was in a hundred horror movies and a Bond villain. My dad AND granddad knew him.
Sure, but I was a teenager when LotR came out and nobody my age knew who the fuck he was.
Howard Shore, Shawn Bawn, and Viggo are what make it magic for me.
Seen Bean too.
most of the actors had careers b4
Ironically the person who was the biggest literally who before LOTR was Peter Jackson
Heavenly Creatures was a thing, though. The biggest beneficiary of LOTR in terms of notoriety was absolutely Orlando Bloom.
Heavenly creatures is legit kino. Honestly might be his best film but it's hard to compare to LOTR, they're trying to do very different things
Ummmmmmmmmm where the FUCK are the women? And minorities??? This is extremely problematic.
Why did Aragorn almost cheat on his elf gf, that shit was so weird. Especially cause the film plays ut off as some puppy love.
He constantly let the other women down gently whenever she made any sort of pass at him. At what point do you consider him even being tempted?
Maybe dont play romantic music every time they talk and film it like a romance movie?
so you don't listen to dialogue or pay attention to body language? I don't remember the music being romantic in emphasis. I will have to go back and listen to it. Still, you seem to have misinterpreted the scenes in general. Maybe the music was more lighthearted / emotional to showcase her attempts at making a connection. Giving him the opportunity to showcase he deeply still has feelings for his love even though he hates the fact she gave up immortality for him.
I watched it with a group, everyone thought they were flirting, all the girls said he shouldn't have acted like that. The body lenguage also says flirting. Again, the film just plays it off as a romance, its a weird couple of scenes that feel out of place.
Fun Fact: John Rhys-Davies ad libbed the line
>and MY axe!
everyone loved it so much they kept it in
>viggo, dumbledore, saruman, agent smith, orlando bloom, liv tyler, ian holm titanic captain, cate blanchett, sean fucking bean are basically unknown actors at the time of filming
whoever made that idiotic picture is a turbo retard
Nobody knew who the fuck Orlando Bloom was.
>most actors were basically unknown at the time
If you're an american shiteater, yeah.
America america america
You wake up thinking about me 🙂
Ehere are you from so I can think about your lil nation next time I touch myself
>most actors were basically unknown at the time
>all white
that's why it's aged poorly
Calling BS on that unknown claim.
Imagine how much better it would have been with Tom Cruise as Aragorn
The only unknowns were Viggo, the Hobbits (on purpose), Gimli (Indiana's sidekick but he's in heavy dorf makeup so people didn't recognize him) and Orlando.
Sean Bean was in Goldeneye and peak Sharpe, McKellen was in X-Men and Christopher Lee was that old boomer who was always in movies if they don't want Sean Connery around.
Then the mid-2000s came and it amplified their popularity with Orlando getting the biggest push in his career until it fizzled out just as fast.
Jonathan and Bernard got the short stick tbh, at least the Hobbit actors knew that they will be one hit wonders and graciously bowed out of acting.
Biggest KWAB is still the Lestat guy who was originally meant to play Aragorn, all dem vampire movies got into his head and he JUSTed his career far harder than Brendan ever will.
Lmao even 10 year old me at the time knew who Elijah Wood was. He was Huckleberry Finn and that kid from the movie where Macaulay Culkin killed cats with a homemade crossbow
i knew him most from radio flyer and forever young, both bittersweet somber movies