DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN Leaks Compilation

Plot.

>Matt Murdock (Charlie Cox) would originally abandon the identity of Daredevil after failing to prevent the death of his best friend Foggy Nelson (Elden Henson) and start a new law firm called "Murdock & Associates” to focus on helping people as a lawyer. Meanwhile, Wilson Fisk (Vincent D’Onofrio) is elected Mayor of New York City on an anti-vigilante platform. Following the project's creative reboot, Foggy will no longer die and he and Karen Page (Deborah Ann Woll) will return, though Matt and Foggy will no longer be law partners, and Matt will be active as Daredevil from the start.

>The series’ first story arc follows Matt defending vigilante Hector Ayala / White Tiger after he stops a mugging, which was actually a setup by corrupt cops who were trying to eliminate an informant before he could get to trial. One of the corrupt cops accidentally dies in the process, and Hector is labeled a cop killer. Matt would originally not suit up as Daredevil for this arc, which would focus entirely on him defending Hector in the courtroom, but this has been changed following the project's creative reboot.

>The series’ second story arc follows Frank Castle (Jon Bernthal) targeting corrupt cops misusing his symbol while Matt tries to stop him. The events of THE PUNISHER series will now be directly referenced, as will Matt and Frank's past encounters.

>The series’ third story arc would follow Daredevil joining forces with vigilante Blindspot to save Chinatown from crime lord Tenfingers, but appears to have been scrapped.

>The main villain of Season 1A is Muse, a serial killer who makes art out of his victims’ blood.

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Characters

    >Heather Glenn (Margarita Levieva) is Matt's new girlfriend and the couples therapist for Fisk and Vanessa (Sandrine Holt), whose marriage is strained.

    >Kirsten McDuffie (Nikki M. James) is Matt’s new partner in law at Murdock & Associates, with whom he shares an attraction.

    >BB Urich (Genneya Walton) is Ben Urich's niece and a crusading reporter determined to honor Ben’s legacy.

    >Daniel Blade (Michael Gandolfini) is Fisk's Director of Communications and secretly his illegitimate son.

    >Buck Cashman (Arty Froushan) is an FBI agent who assists Fisk in his anti-vigilante crusade.

    >Mike Cherry (Clark Johnson) is a police detective who helps Matt with his cases.

    >Sheila Rivera (Zabryna Guevara) is B.B. Urich’s boss at the New York Bulletin.

    >Foggy Nelson (Elden Henson) and Karen Page (Deborah Ann Woll) are Matt's former partners in law who have gone their separate ways.

    >Muse (Hunter Doohan) is Matt's new enemy, a superhuman serial killer invisible to Daredevil’s super-senses.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >(Margarita Levieva) is Matt's new girlfriend
      >(Nikki M. James) is Matt’s new partner in law
      >(Genneya Walton) is Ben Urich's niece
      >(Zabryna Guevara) is B.B. Urich’s boss
      I mean it's kind of weird that every single female character is black except for the one Mexican, right? There's not a single Asian or White woman in New York City?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The only races that exist in a DEI world are Black, Latinx, and Racist

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >no Aryans

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Here's Kristen McDuffie, Matt's new hottie

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        b***h got a chin like Jimmy Hill

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        thank god he's blind

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Jesus Christ, they seem real intent on downgrading literally everything.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        thank god he's blind

        Jesus Christ, they seem real intent on downgrading literally everything.

        Technically Kristen is his new platonic work partner, pic related is Matt's current gf in the new show (who gets killed by Kingpin)

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Reserving further judgment until more of her body is seen. And if that fails then her acting ability I guess.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          She probably sucks. Now that you posted that pic, DD could use a yellow b***h to seed.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        where do they keep finding these ugly ass actresses?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is the dumbest shit ever, why would they recast Vanessa with a woman who’s an entire different race?

      Now they’re doing reshoots, and the tv show the original actress for Vanessa was doing that made her unavailable is cancelled. Why don’t they get her back?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Is this really a significant enough raceswap to get mad about?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It stinks of disrespect to the actual show it’s claiming to be a continuation of. Vanessa was THE driving motivation for Fisks entire character, so let’s just forget she looked like for 3 seasons, Asian is close enough to white israelite right?

          What kind of race swap do you think it is alright to get mad about? Because this one is asinine. It would make more sense to just kill her off and have that affect Fisk (maybe that’s why he’s trying so hard to have Echo be a daughter figure or some shit)

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Because this one is asinine. It would make more sense to just kill her off and have that affect Fisk (maybe that’s why he’s trying so hard to have Echo be a daughter figure or some shit)
            Isn't that what was implied in Echo? Fisk mentions he knows the pain of losing a loved one when talking with Maya's grandma, I could see a reason why Kingpin rose back to power was because both Matt and Vanessa were snapped so he no longer had any opposition or leverage against.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Every race swap is one to get mad at, unless they are made in good faith(None have been that way since the early 2000s.)

          Because of smug race swapping going unchecked the morons who made Deadpool 2 got a woman killed, forcing her to do stunts she had no business attempting.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Shut the frick up chud

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Again its not about the content, its about the intent you fricking slop loving simpleton.
            [...]
            >Dead women good!

            Quit pretending to care about that woman and using her death to screech about politics.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Drink bleach homosexualard

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You're not wrong. Raceswaps are racist and unnecessary. They just don't want to use any of the non-White characters Marvel already has.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Raceswaps are stupid because it's still pushing whiteness at the core of it.

              >but it's more rep!

              Yeah, but the characters being swapped are still white, have been white since their conception, and are always going to be white. They were white first, and first is what matters. Raceswaps are only accepted as "the new canon" when it's a charismatic celebrity playing the character or if the writing is leagues better than the original. And that hardly happens or counts, even notwithstanding the stereotypes that non-white characters STILL fall into today.

              And worse, it's also out of greed. By raceswapping an older existing character, you can avoid paying royalties to newer characters who's creators are still alive or have family to speak on their behalf. Modern creators get paid so much more than their predecessors used to.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's more racist to assume that the non-White characters you already have won't sell as much specifically because they're not White, when the issue is a lot of these new executives and writers and directors just use said non-White characters to push a message, they don't write them as actual people, which is what makes the White and Male characters actually sell.....because for those characters, their skin color isn't allowed to be the sole focus or else it's REEEEECISST.

                >Modern creators get paid so much more than their predecessors used to.
                Despite being objectively far worse.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Original actress was busy with another show at the time.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Learn to read you absolute moron. He said that in the post. It got cancelled since then. There is zero reason they can’t bring her back in new reshoots

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Don't ask questions, goyim......just coomsoom~

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Heather Glenn (Margarita Levieva) is Matt's new girlfriend and the couples therapist for Fisk and Vanessa (Sandrine Holt), whose marriage is strained.
      At least she's White, and a character from the comics. I just looked her up though, she kinda looks like she's got fetal alcohol syndrome lol
      Why tf is she going to be Fisk and Token Vanessa's therapist and how would that tie into her relationship with Matt? That just seems like some cringy CW shit xD

      >Kirsten McDuffie (Nikki M. James) is Matt’s new partner in law at Murdock & Associates, with whom he shares an attraction.
      She looks kinda decent in some pictures online and looks like the black version of The Joker in others. She was mid sometimes and alright (even somewhat wholesome) at other points in the comics. Hopefully she's not annoying or treats Matt like shit for pandering reasons.

      >BB Urich (Genneya Walton) is Ben Urich's niece and a crusading reporter determined to honor Ben’s legacy.
      I see they're still keeping the tokenized Urich route instead of just rebooting that shit out of existence. Given how this is a younger actress, I'm gonna guess she's going to be like all the other smug and obnoxious "GURL POWA" girls that we keep seeing in modern MCU schlock (America Chavez, Kamala Khan, Swapped Actress Cassie Lang, Yelena Belova, etc.). So I won't be liking her one bit.

      >Daniel Blade (Michael Gandolfini) is Fisk's Director of Communications and secretly his illegitimate son.
      Tony Soprano's kid? Interesting. Still think that James Gandolfini would've been a decent pick for Fisk if he had lived. Hope this kid doesn't get wasted by some of Marvel's modern pretentious writing.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Buck Cashman (Arty Froushan) is an FBI agent who assists Fisk in his anti-vigilante crusade.
      >White Guy
      >Helping the other White Guy, who's the main villain
      Lol. Maybe they'll do something interesting with him, but the more likely route is he'll just be canon fodder for Daredevil and his gang of jungle bunnies to fodderize.

      >Mike Cherry (Clark Johnson) is a police detective who helps Matt with his cases.
      >Mixed Mulatto
      >will more than likely lecturing Matt for being White
      Can't make this shit up, at least the other Black cop Matt worked with in the og show was fun to watch.

      >Sheila Rivera (Zabryna Guevara) is B.B. Urich’s boss at the New York Bulletin.
      Why is Token Urich's illegitimate daughter getting her own focal storyline? Over actual legacy characters like Foggy? Karen?? Elektra (who they're supposedly bringing back with a new wetback actress)??? Isn't this supposed to be a Daredevil show???

      >Foggy Nelson (Elden Henson) and Karen Page (Deborah Ann Woll) are Matt's former partners in law who have gone their separate ways.
      Jesus Frickin Christ, why??? Matt's best friend for life and his second most prominent lover......and it's like they're not even there when they need to be. And if it's a situation with the blip and they got snapped but still came back, why would Matt seemingly just push them away from him??? He already had a "you can't be around me because of my life as The Devil" depression arc in season 3, and you know what? He overcame that at the end, even after everything Fisk was putting him through, because he had Foggy, Karen, and his mom with him until the end. So I guess all that development and resolved character bonding is just retconned now.....?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Be a secondarygay
        >adaptations always suck
        >be surprised they suck
        You are a moron and deserve everything you get.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >adaptations always suck
          I wouldn't say most of the pre-Endgame stuff sucked. Don't get me wrong, plenty of them were definitely hit or miss. But a lot of them actually helped to boost the MCU to the (once) respected brand it has today. But that was then, and this is now.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There's a lot of rose tinted glasses towards pre-Endgame MCU, people have always complained about the franchise, how mid they were, and how they weren't real movies. A lot of people look back at the old movies fondly because of how Infinity War/Endgame turned but back then it was really 50/50 if they were going to bring all the characters towards a satisfying crossover epic that wasn't a clusterfrick.

            The real problem is that there's just too much MCU content nowadays and while I think the quality is about the same as it always has been "ranging from mid to just okay" with occassional bangers and dogshit, I think people just can't take too much mid, y'know?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              People look back more fondly upon the past stuff because all the new schlock is just pandering, ugly, unfinished shit.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                People complained about that stuff ten years ago.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So Marvel always sucked? If that's the road you wanna take, go right ahead. I have no issue mocking this already dead franchise.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The person who made that image doesn't understand the concept of a deuteragonist

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why are the titular characters becoming deuteragonists in their own projects?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because they're being used SOLELY as vessels to prop up less entertaining heroes. Instead of just featuring a character/actor and just letting the public decide if they want to see them again or not that actor will be slated to be in a certain number of more lame cameos that don't inspire the masses and then they finally debut in their streaming product/lackluster film and surprise-surprise heroism is the last fricking thing on their mind.

                where do they keep finding these ugly ass actresses?

                I don't know but their products will continue to fail because casting an ugly actress as a love interest for a superhero is no different from casting the average american stand-up comedian as the love interest for women's romantic comedies or ALL of Lifetime's original programming or any other single piece of female-oriented media. Yeah, let Ariana Grande sing about watching the moonlight bounce off of Joe Rogan's scalp or Taylor Hill feeling up and singing to Tom Segura as she stares into his eyes.

                It fricks the entire fantasy up from top to bottom. TOP. TO BOTTOM.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's the issue with all this ANAD cringe, they're not heroes at all, they just want to push a message that the creators themselves likely don't even live or abide by, they just parrot it to try and get back at their inferred ideological enemies.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >they're not heroes at all
                And this is what hurts the most. I shouldn't use that word because at the end of the day this is just a form of entertainment with highs that can I can find somewhere else. But I just feel something in me for the art of storytelling. The heroes journey degraded for literal fricking fanfiction. Fanfiction that makes what I've seen on Archiveofourown look like masterworks.

                >they just want to push a message that the creators themselves likely don't even live or abide by, they just parrot it to try and get back at their inferred ideological enemies.
                That's literally all it is. I'm bitter about it because anyone with eyes can see that oftentime a poor writer equates to a Barton Town OOC roleplay where beloved characters sit around eating and talking. The action is handled swiftly--most of the comic is traveling there. Sitting, having static dialogue. Any action is brief and over in a flash because the girls are just THAT good and because TALK TALK TALK TALK TALK. So much lame gabbing! Ugh, I just got reminded of Gabby the Honey Badger OC baby sister X-23 whom I wished death and irrelevancy on.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Fanfiction that makes what I've seen on Archiveofourown look like masterworks.
                I still dread the day when they finally decide to make the rest of this corpse of a franchise's characters into pedophiles who all date children and kill anyone who even slightly opposes their immorality. Because that's all you see on the horrific hellscape that is Archiveofourown. I'd rather capeshit have never existed or that its og creators and fans got bullied into mass suicide than ever have it come to that. Ever. But I have a strong feeling that a crooked corporation like Disney, which is already known for some past child neglect here and there, has unyielding plans to force this dead IP towards.

                >Any action is brief and over in a flash because the girls are just THAT good and because TALK TALK TALK TALK TALK. So much lame gabbing!
                That's literally all you see in Capeshit now. It's just b***hes talking about pointless shit or "orange man bad" for the entire comic/episode/movie/game and then any poor White person or male that has the extreme misfortune of crossing their paths, gets curbstomped into the ground and blamed for every non-existent issue in the world.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They're not?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Muse (Hunter Doohan) is Matt's new enemy, a superhuman serial killer invisible to Daredevil’s super-senses.
      Literally the only positive news here. Not sure why they got such a young actor to play him, but I hope he gets paid what he's owed for the work he puts in. It's a shame he's had to bear through all these shitty reshoots of this mess of a series. Hopefully, they don't just paint him out to be evil because of some "edgy White school shooter" vibe and actually make him a creepy and memorable villain.

      Production & Structure

      >This series will have 18 episodes split into two “pods” of nine episodes each, with a 9-12 month release gap between them. Season 1A will air on network television during the midseason in order to reach a wider audience and motivate them to subscribe to Disney+ to watch season 1B.

      >After the project's creative reboot, the nine episodes already filmed were re-edited into six, while three new episodes were filmed: A new pilot and two final episodes that will conclude season 1A's storylines more definitely. Season 1B has been completely rewritten and will feature new characters and storylines.

      >Krysten Ritter, Alaqua Cox and Wilson Bethel rumored to return as Jessica Jones, Maya Lopez / Echo and Benjamin Poindexter / Bullseye in Season 1B.

      >Season 1A will release in 2025 and season 1B will release in 2026.

      >This series will have 18 episodes split into two “pods” of nine episodes each, with a 9-12 month release gap between them.
      So is this going to be a miniseries with only one spotty season? Cause I read somewhere that they're just going to reboot all this shit in this universe with Secret Wars, so......
      Bye-bye Disneyfied Wokedevil at some point?

      >Season 1A will air on network television during the midseason in order to reach a wider audience and motivate them to subscribe to Disney+ to watch season 1B.
      Guess no one but piraters will know what happens in season 2- sorry, "season 1B," since D+ has bled most of its subscriber base and anyone else is either too tired of Disney's repeatedly asinine products and choices or just forgot about it at this point, for D+ to ever come back again in any profitable way in the future. Or to make enough bank to stay alive with the few negative IQ subscribers it still somehow has.
      What a stupid and pointless decision.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Production & Structure

    >This series will have 18 episodes split into two “pods” of nine episodes each, with a 9-12 month release gap between them. Season 1A will air on network television during the midseason in order to reach a wider audience and motivate them to subscribe to Disney+ to watch season 1B.

    >After the project's creative reboot, the nine episodes already filmed were re-edited into six, while three new episodes were filmed: A new pilot and two final episodes that will conclude season 1A's storylines more definitely. Season 1B has been completely rewritten and will feature new characters and storylines.

    >Krysten Ritter, Alaqua Cox and Wilson Bethel rumored to return as Jessica Jones, Maya Lopez / Echo and Benjamin Poindexter / Bullseye in Season 1B.

    >Season 1A will release in 2025 and season 1B will release in 2026.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >After the project's creative reboot, the nine episodes already filmed were re-edited into six, while three new episodes were filmed: A new pilot and two final episodes that will conclude season 1A's storylines more definitely.
      This series is going to be a cluster frick by the time it comes out. Six already rushed and haphazardly forced together episodes of disconnected shit and then 3 new episodes including an immediately new pilot and 2 finales forced together one by one.
      And then anyone who still dickrides this miserable corporation will just be like "you're not smart enough to get it!!!" Nah man, the homosexuals who were in charge of this project weren't smart enough to make a competent and respected series that didn't have a dozen reshoots and reworkings by this point.

      >Krysten Ritter, Alaqua Cox and Wilson Bethel rumored to return as Jessica Jones, Maya Lopez / Echo and Benjamin Poindexter / Bullseye in Season 1B.
      Didn't Ritter say she was done with the Jessica Jones role years ago? Is she only coming back for a paycheck? Is the dude who played Luke Cage coming back cause I kinda liked him? They'll probably only bring him back to push some illogical agenda like what they do with all these Disnonce+ series'.
      Nobody cares about the deaf, disabled taco-bender.
      Bullseye returning would seem like good news if I wasn't absolutely certain they'd waste him in some way or another.

      >Season 1A will release in 2025 and season 1B will release in 2026.
      Can't wait till it gets post-poned again then. Or canceled. Hopefully canceled.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Season 1A will air on network television during the midseason in order to reach a wider audience
      I haven't touched an actual traditional TV service in over a decade who is the demo for this move?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ABC and FX. It's what they did with Andor

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >born again
    >doesn’t adapt born again in any way
    >not a single aspect of it at all
    Why do they continue to do this? Just name it something else.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm actually so fricking tired of how the current MCU seems to be exclusively focused on adapting modern comics shit instead of the characters or storylines people actually like

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because the show was cancelled and renewed after a significant fan campaign. Hence, Born Again.

      S3 of the Netflix show already heavily cribbed from Born Again, and if they're ever gonna adapt the elements of it that haven't already been done (Nelson & Murdock exploding, Karen becoming a junkie), they'll need to do at least a season of setup.

      Jesus Christ I swear if jannies deleted every post that was nothing more than "wah wah gimme thing I want, thing I'm getting sucks" this board would be half empty.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm actually so fricking tired of how the current MCU seems to be exclusively focused on adapting modern comics shit instead of the characters or storylines people actually like

      Because DD S3 already adapted Born Again?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not really, though. What did it have in common, besides Karen telling Kingpin DD's real identity?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Kingpin using his resources to destroy Matthew Murdock as well as Daredevil, including framing him for crimes, the iconic part where Matt is driven in a taxi and crashed in the river to kill him and Fisks assistant tells him there is no body

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They should call it "Daredevil: Supreme" or "Daredevil & Blindspot" or some shit, because that's the arc they're actually adapting.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >White Tiger
    >"He"
    ???

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The original White Tiger was a dude, it’s weird they’re using him here since his most iconic scenes were with pete in spectacular Spider-Man

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The defending the white tiger at a trial was one of the storylines from the Bendis DD after his identity was leaked by the NY Post.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What now, anon? Will Benthel confirmed to return as Bullseye and nothing in the leaks reference him.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He is rumored for the post-reboot version of season 1B.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The series’ second story arc follows Frank Castle (Jon Bernthal) targeting corrupt cops misusing his symbol while Matt tries to stop him. The events of THE PUNISHER series will now be directly referenced, as will Matt and Frank's past encounters
    This is so god damn stupid and on the nose that it gives this whole thing credence. God damnit I hate stupid fricking leftwing morons so God damned much its unreal.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why wouldn't Frank kill corrupt cops appropriating his symbol? Didn't people hate how tame the Punisher was in his own show, especially when he spared a literal pedo?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because it’s painfully obvious this is literally the only thing punisher can do because anything else will be criticised. The punisher show already sucked ass for being all about government conspiracies like he’s Jason bourne.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Its not that he wouldn't, its that the idiots who write shit like this think they are speaking truth to power, and that its a reflection of the times. They actually believe there is a evil cop cabal that kills brown people at will.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Corrupt cops in a Daredevil TV show, oh my lord.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This also means either

            >punisher will not be killing the cops, and we get lame PG punisher
            >punisher will be killing cops and Matt will just be ok with this because ACAB

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Daredevil was inconsistent about the no killing rule in his own show, he pleaded with Frank not to kill that guy who had murdered an old lady in the past but then he has Ray Nadeem shoot the mercenaries sent to assassinate them on their way to the court trial.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because, of course......Matt will definitely intervene when he's not actually present. Why do you think Punisher just kills people left and right in his own show, most of the time in an entirely different city?

                At least he ain't as quick to jump to immediate murder as Comic DD.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >has Ray Nadeem shoot the mercenaries
                its silly but the scene shows Matt had shown all those shot alive writhing in pain when they leave the truck, implying the shots were non-lethal (even though bullets dont work like that)

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Daredevil was inconsistent about the no killing rule in his own show
                There's always been a massive moral difference between executing a man in cold blood and killing people who are actively in the process of trying to harm you.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Deadass. Batman does it regularly in a lot of his movies. Why wouldn't Daredevil?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Where was that difference when he had the choice to kill Kingpin?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Again its not about the content, its about the intent you fricking slop loving simpleton.

            Shut the frick up chud

            >Dead women good!

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Would your enjoyment of Daredevil season three change if you learned that the guy who showrunned it at the time intended Kingpin to be a metaphor for Trump?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The real Daredevil, where he was still helping the popo, ended years ago.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You think they'll portray a Straight White Man, who constantly uses guns, like The Punisher......in good faith?
        Or.....God forbid.....as a loving father? Lol

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't think The Punisher was portrayed in good faith even back in Daredevil season two.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I still think it's a mistake for The Punisher to bother arguing his position on killing. Seems more in character he wouldn't give a shit what anyone thinks and I don't think I've ever read anything where he yells either.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's lame because it's clearly a straw man. The corruption part is just tacked on as flimsy justification, the important part is that they want to stick it to those real life cops that went viral for having a punisher sticker on their car or what ever the shit the leftists were butthurt over a few year back during the peak defund the cops/"mostly peaceful protest" period. If it was just a "punisher goes after generic corrupt cops" story we wouldn't care, but it's clearly built around a specific RL event that a certain group threw a fit about so it's taking the plot into full moron political bullshit territory.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >If it was just a "punisher goes after generic corrupt cops" story we wouldn't care, but it's clearly built around a specific RL event that a certain group threw a fit about so it's taking the plot into full moron political bullshit territory.
          Honestly so what? Daredevil season three pulled something similar with how Kingpin was a Trump analogue according to the showrunner, no one complained then. Let the Punisher kill criminals and scumbags.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Let the Punisher kill criminals and scumbags.
            Exactly why is he going after the primary upholders of the law?
            Shit makes no sense.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Wasn't Frank going to kill that innocent old guy if he had seen Daredevil on the rooftop?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Wasn't Frank going to kill that innocent old guy if he had seen Daredevil on the rooftop?
                No. He was doing it to show Daredevil that he had restraint and wasn't just some weirdo with a gun.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He literally tells Daredevil to keep quiet or he'll kill whoever is at door and holds a gun behind the door while they talk?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He literally does that to scare Matt who's making noise lol
                I doubt he was actually going to do anything.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So he wasn't above threatening innocent people to get what he wants? What should stop him from killing dirty cops? Especially since corrupt law enforcement was a recurring theme in Daredevil and Punisher?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You shouldn't take a one-time instance and use it to push your own perspective over an already reasonably imperfect adaptation of a character.
                And again, the only reason they'd even be going with this whole cop angle is to spite some of the police that leftists threw a hissyfit over using the symbol of a fricking fictional character.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And again, who cares if it was inspired by some real life events. The Punisher killing dirty cops who used his symbol isn't out of character for him to do at all. It is in fact an improvement over the show he got where he was just soft and constantly struggling to maintain his Punisher persona.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                why would dirty cops use his symbol?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >dirty cops do a targeted assassination while wearing Punisher shit
                >investigators just write it off as "Punisher doing Punisher things"
                >dirty cops get away with it
                It's not exactly a complex idea. Batman did it IIRC.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                why not wear nothing that stands out and don't have any leads for investigators?
                and why would investigators write it off? if anything, it would bring more heat on punisher, and in turn would get the punishers attention of dirty cops. seems like a dumb idea

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >why not wear nothing that stands out and don't have any leads for investigators?
                Because blaming someone else is far, far easier than covering your tracks entirely.
                >and why would investigators write it off? if anything, it would bring more heat on punisher
                Eh, it really depends. IIRC in Daredevil they said that like half of NYPD is sympathetic to Punisher. And in most Punisher media it took cops dying with him getting blamed on them to actually make other cops give a frick about bringing him down.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                frank literally beats a bunch of cops in season 2
                i doubt they would be sympathetic to him in universe

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There's beating up a cop and then there's killing one.
                There's a reason why being labelled a "Cop Killer" is a fricking death sentence in a lot of cities.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Didn't Frank have to kill a young war vet or something like that in Punisher season 1 because he was a danger to society or something?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Didn't Frank have to kill a young war vet or something like that in Punisher season 1 because he was a danger to society or something?
                He locked him in a meat locker and forced the veteran to blow himself up. He already tried talking him down beforehand and was very pressed for time at that point (cops showing up) in the episode so in Frank's eyes it was the only real option left.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I see.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                beat cops to near death will still give you a bad rep among cops
                who's gonna sympathize with him now?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nah, you're right. In season 2 of Daredevil, there was a mention of a bunch of cops and even regular civilians sympathizing with Frank because he was "making the streets permanently safer" or something like that. It was around the time that the firm was trying (and failing) to help Grotto (the bastard who's life Frank tried to bargain with Matt for on the rooftop) and DD was actually catching onto the Punisher lead initially.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The Punisher killing dirty cops who used his symbol isn't out of character for him to do at all.
                NTA. I don't disagree with you that it's in-character for Frank (and an improvement over the Jason Bourne shit in his show), but there's genuine risk of the plotline just being further scorn Marvel has for the skull now, and for Punisher in general.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Legit this. I would much rather have the entire botched storyline scrapped than have THAT shitty storyline ever adapted behind a camera. Because if it ever comes to that, on that day, Marvel will have put the CW's Arrowverse to shame with the amount of uncontrollable cringe compacted into one episode.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Someone should kill her again and see how she likes it.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Funny you should mention that, I know just the person for the job.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Frank gives Frank tumblr nose
                Damn it, Frank!

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Someone shoop Frank's face onto Bullfrank's gun.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >have Nu-Punisher encounter her during his search for his wife's killer
                >she somehow plays a part in it because of all those guns and money she just gave away
                >he blows her brains out in a fit of blind rage
                It'd be stupid but also very cathartic.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's exactly how I imagine it. He does it and just feels so much better. And then we move on to a better arc and he goes back to being the reason why people buy his fricking comics to begin with: to see Frank do what the capes can't. To have the "badass normal" or whatever those fruits call it operating in a universe ripe with metahumans and demigods performing feats of super heroism that catapults them into superstars is always an attractive notion. Because it's a classic underdog story. Frank is immensely unequipped compared to the likes of Stephen Strange or even fricking Deadpool but he makes it work and stays alive through his military experience, detective work and pure fricking rage. An author can channel alot of grievances in the headlines or discontent in the state of the fanbase through Frank. Or just do what Marvel always does and, despite him operating in New York, have him fricking never run into any cape on his solo runs mysteriously somehow.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >literally every single one of his bad guys are sadistic mobsters, terrorists, or otherwise well-established Marvel villains
                >"NOOOOOOOOOOOO FRANK IS LE BAD GUY HE'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE LIKED HE'S ACTUALLY EVIL"
                The more I think about it the more I come to realize that Marvel has no fricking clue how to make Punisher the "bad guy" they so clearly want him to be.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's just superhero media in general, we had an entire Daredevil season of Kingpin doing pretty evil shit and at the end Matt spares because killing is wrong or something.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why is the art so ugly?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because they want you to find stimulation outside of non-fiction. Honestly, sadly, I think that's the reason behind all of this.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I meant fiction. God, I need to go to bed.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                One of the few times the art reflects the writing.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Legit this. I would much rather have the entire botched storyline scrapped than have THAT shitty storyline ever adapted behind a camera. Because if it ever comes to that, on that day, Marvel will have put the CW's Arrowverse to shame with the amount of uncontrollable cringe compacted into one episode.

                Marvel tends to loosely adapt storylines from the comics, like Civil War or Infinity War have plot beats from the source material but they're not 1:1 manga adaptations.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Absolutely no part of the nu-Punisher wave shit should EVER be adapted. Every fricking panel of that run literally goes against everything Punisher has ever stood for.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because they're solely doing it to spite those irl cops from the past. And as we know by now with this franchise, shit made with spite doesn't turn out to be written great or even decently in the end (see any of the failed D+ shows or more than half of the Phase Bore schlock).

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah because the intended audience, who is already apathetic on returning to Marvel, would tune RIGHT the frick back out. But instead of doing this now all the average person does is wait for their favorite YouTube personality to watch it and review the show for them. Or they simply pirate the media. Either way Disney continues to lose out on paying customers let alone satisfied ones.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Either way Disney continues to lose out on paying customers let alone satisfied ones.
                The only respite to come out of any of this.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                do you not knowing what a bluff is?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He was doing that to scare Matt into being quiet. We see afterward that he has much respect for the old man and lets him leave because he served in the army before, much like Frank himself.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The cop plotline and Foggy & Karen pretty much being non-existent is all you need to know it's going to be more of the same dogshit this Miserable, Corrupted, Useless franchise has been pushing for years now.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I want to hang in there for Charlie Cox along but it's likely his character will be a neutered mouthpiece who apologizes to everyone like Insomniac's Peter Parker in Spider-Man 2. Fricking hate the milquetoast queer masquerading as Spider-Man. Not ONE fricking funny joke or quip in the entire game. Not one piece of banter that even brings a toothy grin. Because women aren't funny and only b***hes wrote that piece of unreplayable garbage.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Don't forget they had an uglyass deliquent Black person masquerading as "Spider-Man" for no reason. Oh wait, that's a thing from the already heavily mocked comics, that's right.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I hate Miles. Everything about him is just to package him a purse puppy. He's just a model for "look at me! I have the most woke elements!" He has an U-G-L-Y girlfriend who is deaf and therefore cannot share in Miles #1 passion: music. BUT OH NO watch Insomniac, who is absolutely positively dedicated to placing the female perspective and feminist ideologies FIRST, use this as an opportunity to have a gay section of the game where the two connect and the deaf girl "hears" Miles' beats. Which would just be more of what fans actively don't want in a Spider-Man game which is what is going to contribute heavily to declining sales of the sequel. The writers don't listen, they don't care, they won't be replaced. Only way to hit them hardest is why sheer apathy for the product. Hell, Insomniac's Wolverine is going to suck so much wiener. Have you seen the leaks? LOOK AT THIS MOTHERFRICKER'S ARMS!!! You can't tell me a team who is actively dedicated to being as against male power fantasy would fricking do this. God forbid these people retain their ideologies.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Miles already sucked, he's just an uglyass reskin of Peter Parker, solely because they thought people who weren't White didn't already like or relate to Spider-Man, when the black co-creator of Static Shock (a black character) said he wanted to emulate Spider-Man and his kind of storied when in the process of helping to create Static.
                https://dcanimated.com//WF/staticshock/backstage/interviews/mcduffiewf.php
                So like, wtf???

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >LOOK AT THIS MOTHERFRICKER'S ARMS!!!
                What did they do to bro......?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You don't want to see what they did to Jean Grey.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Anon......don't you mean John Grey?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                With Hot Cummers as Bi-clops and John Gay [the R is silent] emerging as the mighty Phenis. But no on a serious note it's titled Wolverine but it's going to be about Wolverine be being at every fricking turn by Mystique and secretly it's all about Jean Grey. Because Insomniac is actively against men enjoying the stories of their titles beyond the gameplay. These all these guys are going to do is just punch up Wolverine: Origins a little graphics and gameplay wise by offering neutered version of Spider-Man's stealth mechanics.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The Origins: Wolverine game was actually fun as frick to play, despite the movie being as shitty as it was, back then.
                By the time Insomniac's Basedverine comes out (of the closet) it's only going to make that old game look like a complete masterpiece.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Damn straight.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Spider-Man 2 has got to be the most spiteful AAA game ever made. Really feels like a group of baristas making it.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                A group of baristas did make it. A group of incompetent, inexperienced, spiteful baristas are behind all of the uglyass character models you see in the game.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Are all the characters in this fricked universe just aliens pretending to be humans but using the most deformed, abominable covers to do it???

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And none of them are stylish! Only Miles was allowed to have an outfit which expressed the exaggerated swagger of a black teen. His girlfriend dressed like trash and didn't do anything to her hair and her nose is too wide. Delete her hair and the face itself is ugly. That's not fair to give to a hero. People fricking actively roast Miles. They can't keep giving us this nerdy fricking guy with NOTHING going on.

                >Hnnggg guys, my essay, hnng
                YOUR DAD WAS A HERO COP AND MOM IS RUNNING FOR A SEAT OR WHATEVER. YOU VOLUNTEER AT FEAST AND SAW SPIDER-MAN FIGHT A homie OR TWO. Miles is interesting on his own but they have to give him space to do that. And they did with his stand alone. He really should have taken a backseat with the great majority of the VenomxPeter storyline since that's an intimate thing that shouldn't be infringed upon by another metahuman level alone Mary Jane.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Miles is interesting on his own but they have to give him space to do that. And they did with his stand alone.
                You sure about that lol

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Wasn't it essentially extended dlc?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The whole game? Basically. Pointless, cringy dlc.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The whole game? Basically. Pointless, cringy dlc.

                MFW current generation is too young to know what an expansion is and get mad about expansions being "pointless, cringy DLC"

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >He hasn't seen the updated sales report from the Insomniac leak
                Um anon

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I hate Miles. Everything about him is just to package him a purse puppy. He's just a model for "look at me! I have the most woke elements!" He has an U-G-L-Y girlfriend who is deaf and therefore cannot share in Miles #1 passion: music. BUT OH NO watch Insomniac, who is absolutely positively dedicated to placing the female perspective and feminist ideologies FIRST, use this as an opportunity to have a gay section of the game where the two connect and the deaf girl "hears" Miles' beats. Which would just be more of what fans actively don't want in a Spider-Man game which is what is going to contribute heavily to declining sales of the sequel. The writers don't listen, they don't care, they won't be replaced. Only way to hit them hardest is why sheer apathy for the product. Hell, Insomniac's Wolverine is going to suck so much wiener. Have you seen the leaks? LOOK AT THIS MOTHERFRICKER'S ARMS!!! You can't tell me a team who is actively dedicated to being as against male power fantasy would fricking do this. God forbid these people retain their ideologies.

                Miles already sucked, he's just an uglyass reskin of Peter Parker, solely because they thought people who weren't White didn't already like or relate to Spider-Man, when the black co-creator of Static Shock (a black character) said he wanted to emulate Spider-Man and his kind of storied when in the process of helping to create Static.
                https://dcanimated.com//WF/staticshock/backstage/interviews/mcduffiewf.php
                So like, wtf???

                I kinda wish Marvel would just blatantly make a story where everyone praises Miles and treats Peter like he's Ultimtae Reed Richards in the most in you face way possible. Because you know that's what they really want. Just fricking do it, say "We hate you Peter because you're white" or shit.

                The possible bright side is that perhaps normies would actually backlash about Miles instead.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i mean, you already got that in the spider-man 2 game

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No one actually reads Miles' shit and it shows with his consistently declining comic sales and endless reboots, so a lot of normies don't actually care enough to backlash against him since all they know him from are the games and the discount Shattered Dimensions movies. Although even from those alone, people are already starting to get annoyed by him and his plot armor and the fact that Peter keeps getting shafted left and right.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Spider-Verse was successful and that's all that really matters

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Doesn't make it good.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                In your opinion

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No like objectively, the 2nd one isn't looked back as being as good as the first.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not as good as the first ≠ bad

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's shit. The plot only happens because of the moronic cop plotline about a cop having to die saving a kid in every universe instead of, idk......just someone close to Spider-Man having to die for him to learn how to be a better Spider-Man? That would seem to be the theme that NWH, which this film mentions, was going with. Plus, everyone blames Miguel and thinks Miles is completely innocent when the film itself shows us Miguel's alternate family disappearing because of his involvement in their universe. So Miguel was actually right? And Miles is just selfishly putting his own father's life above all other life in the multiverse?? Including every other version of his dad out there lol
                Spider-Verse 2 was a convoluted mess because it was created with spite against actual Spider-Man fans (which is why every other Spider-Man in the movie is an idiot who can't figure out the holes in Miguel's theory, despite one of Peter Parker's core traits being that he's more of a genius than most other masterminds in Marvel) and pandering (which is why they advertised Gwen to be a troony and tried to paint Miles to be the victim in this fricked plot).

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Multiverse. Ugh. Too fricking Rick & Morty, Superheroism isn't Rick & Morty.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                DC has been doing multiverses since the 40s

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And they sucked there too. Multiverses have always been a lazy cop-out. A dead end for creativity. Because why worry about the consequences of killing a major character or the effect a major event has on the world/reality around you when there's about a bajillion other universes where that dead person still exists/that specific event never happened.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >which is why they advertised Gwen to be a troony
                that was just twittertroons being twittertroons

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Ugh, they're having Punisher go after corrupt cops? That's so out of character! Everyone knows Punisher LOVES civvies using his symbol in the name of murder!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >cops use punisher symbol
      >when the punisher in universe has assaulted cops and military personnel before
      that's like cops using a cop killers symbol for some reason

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tbf raceswapping Vanessa into being asian would fit how MCU Fisk is canonically a weeb or at least into asian stuff.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They better have a good explanation for why Foggy and Matt aren't law partners anymore, and also why Matt isn't dating Karen. My guess would be them disappearing in the blip, since in that time Matt could have started his own new law firm and got a new girlfriend, but still that wouldn't explain why Matt wouldn't just let Foggy join his new firm after they got un-blipped.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Matt Murdock (Charlie Cox) would originally abandon the identity of Daredevil after failing to prevent the death of his best friend Foggy Nelson (Elden Henson) and start a new law firm called "Murdock & Associates” to focus on helping people as a lawyer. Meanwhile, Wilson Fisk (Vincent D’Onofrio) is elected Mayor of New York City on an anti-vigilante platform. Following the project's creative reboot, Foggy will no longer die and he and Karen Page (Deborah Ann Woll) will return,
      Glad they scrapped this moronic first draft but Foggy should still not be distanced in any way from the main story. He is literally Matt's best friend and has been for decades. It's one thing for him not to be the center of attention some of these DD stories but for him to be pushed to the far background, let alone being killed off-screen out of nowhere, just doesn't make sense. And why are they trying to get rid of Karen? The comics have been referencing her years after she already died in Smith's shitty Guardian Devil story, but they already failed to capitalize on that in season 3, and we know from that season that she has no family to go back to that wouldn't hate her which is why she left to go to Hell's Kitchen in the first place. So why are they distancing her either? Because she's a White Woman named Karen? That's some gen z shit. She still had an entire drug arc from the actual Born Again storyline that they have yet to have the balls to cover in the MCU.

      We don't actually know what Foggy and Karen's roles in the show are yet. The original plan was to kill Foggy off (with the twist being it was Vanessa's doing rather than Kingpin) to explain why Matt hanged up the suit at the start of the series and has a new lawyer partner, Karen wasn't even going to get brought up at all but the retooling suggests they're back as part of the main cast and Born Again is basically season four now rather than a soft reboot.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So Matt is basically just choosing to pretend they don't exist even if they do? Brilliant.

        [...]
        [...]
        Technically Kristen is his new platonic work partner, pic related is Matt's current gf in the new show (who gets killed by Kingpin)

        Damn, she kinda bad. And she'll get replaced at some point with this?
        Thank God that Matt's blind.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >So Matt is basically just choosing to pretend they don't exist even if they do? Brilliant.
          Original DD in a nutshell

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nobody gave a frick about mustard gaydevil when he came out of the closet lol
            Why are you mentioning already retconned shit anyway?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Oh my good lord you immediately forfeit the majority male interest in this character and risk everyone shitting on Matt as a whole if nothing is done to account for that woman's androgyny. Its like these people don't understand that male audiences immerse themselves in these fantasy roles where men place themselves at the behest of the weak and downtrodden to shield them from tyranny for no reward. They selflessly sacrifice personal satisfaction for greater good. That's why you reward these heroes with caring, loving, gorgeous women. It's as clear as day. This woman should swap roles with Matt's trophy girlfriend who is killed in the new show.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That a sneak peek of Kirsten in the show? My God, someone needs to pay Bullseye to use her as target practice. He'd be doing Matt a favor at this point.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Matt Murdock (Charlie Cox) would originally abandon the identity of Daredevil after failing to prevent the death of his best friend Foggy Nelson (Elden Henson) and start a new law firm called "Murdock & Associates” to focus on helping people as a lawyer. Meanwhile, Wilson Fisk (Vincent D’Onofrio) is elected Mayor of New York City on an anti-vigilante platform. Following the project's creative reboot, Foggy will no longer die and he and Karen Page (Deborah Ann Woll) will return,
    Glad they scrapped this moronic first draft but Foggy should still not be distanced in any way from the main story. He is literally Matt's best friend and has been for decades. It's one thing for him not to be the center of attention some of these DD stories but for him to be pushed to the far background, let alone being killed off-screen out of nowhere, just doesn't make sense. And why are they trying to get rid of Karen? The comics have been referencing her years after she already died in Smith's shitty Guardian Devil story, but they already failed to capitalize on that in season 3, and we know from that season that she has no family to go back to that wouldn't hate her which is why she left to go to Hell's Kitchen in the first place. So why are they distancing her either? Because she's a White Woman named Karen? That's some gen z shit. She still had an entire drug arc from the actual Born Again storyline that they have yet to have the balls to cover in the MCU.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Glad they scrapped this moronic first draft but Foggy should still not be distanced in any way from the main story. He is literally Matt's best friend and has been for decades. It's one thing for him not to be the center of attention some of these DD stories but for him to be pushed to the far background, let alone being killed off-screen out of nowhere, just doesn't make sense. And why are they trying to get rid of Karen? The comics have been referencing her years after she already died in Smith's shitty Guardian Devil story, but they already failed to capitalize on that in season 3, and we know from that season that she has no family to go back to that wouldn't hate her which is why she left to go to Hell's Kitchen in the first place. So why are they distancing her either? Because she's a White Woman named Karen? That's some gen z shit. She still had an entire drug arc from the actual Born Again storyline that they have yet to have the balls to cover in the MCU.

      My guess is that they didn't want to pay their salary at the time

      The problem is what would even be the point of adapting Born Again, at this stage? Kingpin knows Matt is Daredevil and Karen's story trajectory is different from the comics version's

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The series’ first story arc follows Matt defending vigilante Hector Ayala / White Tiger after he stops a mugging, which was actually a setup by corrupt cops who were trying to eliminate an informant before he could get to trial. One of the corrupt cops accidentally dies in the process, and Hector is labeled a cop killer.
    Cringe. Not only does this just seem like a repeat of the garbage social justice shit we got with She-Hag, but as this point further emphasizes, this hypothetical version of the season wouldn't even have Matt doing any Daredevil shit. Glad it got canned.

    >The series’ second story arc follows Frank Castle (Jon Bernthal) targeting corrupt cops misusing his symbol while Matt tries to stop him. The events of THE PUNISHER series will now be directly referenced, as will Matt and Frank's past encounters.
    As someone else pointed out here, is Matt just going to let Frank get away with this for a cheap ACAB message or is Frank going to pussy out of it once he finds a POC cop he thinks is corrupt lol

    >The series’ third story arc would follow Daredevil joining forces with vigilante Blindspot to save Chinatown from crime lord Tenfingers, but appears to have been scrapped.
    Probably the only decent arc mentioned here but it seems a bit too much like Shang-Chi/Iron Fist shit, or the stuff with The Hand that went down in Season 2, which most people thought lessened down that season overall.

    >The main villain of Season 1A is Muse, a serial killer who makes art out of his victims’ blood.
    One of the only interesting villains from Modern Daredevil arcs. I have a strong feeling they'll find some way to frick him up but here's hoping he at least comes off as a bit threatening, let alone being the horror villain he's portrayed as in the books and should be in the adaptation.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's a shame that we're never getting the last peak Daredevil story adapted.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >killing off Foggy
    You don't just off a man's best friend like that. Frick you.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Told you it was gonna suck.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah. That's just spitting in the fricking face. M-She-U has been met with nothing but a resounding fat fricking failure. The only people providing positives to the shows at this point are, funnily enough, the target demographic which is why Loki Season 2 and the like are pulling CW numbers. You have to reset. You portray positive male relationships on screen. Actual bros with actual cool relationships. This is a male superhero show for the male demographic. The women should be eye-candy and family/best friends should be functionally immune until later seasons. Killing off Foggy at this juncture does the character and his relationship with Matt ZERO fricking service. You can't...go back to the well for anything. Foggy and Matt at this juncture now only have flashback scenes to go off of. You can film all of his actor's scenes within a four hour to four day window that's how fricking insignificant he is. I know people b***hed about Foggy in the first season but it was because he was written like an overemotional woman when he should have been a solid bro who had his feet on the ground and supported Matt. He was a seething little frick. If left unchecked the men in these series come off as gays when they should be taking action. It contributes heavily to making male characters watered down so the women can "look better" by comparison when that NEVER was the fricking case in the comics. If a superheroine got a showcase it wasn't just because she was hot. She was written to be dateable. Available. The popular superheroines are often caring, supportive, lighthearted and charming. They exhibit attributes of an ideal partner--and they just so happen to be metahumans and interested in only performing [male interest]. They are perfect and men want to see more of them, preferably with the man's favorite self-insert. And then women come in and just frick the entire thing up.

        Foggy and his hot gf and Karen and Bullseye but ESPECIALLY Wilson Fisk deserve better.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          100% agree. Men should not have to be downgraded or made out to appear weak/weaker in anything just because whoever is in charge isn't smart or strong enough to write women to be on an equal footing. It'd be like if, hypothetically, all of the women were written to be mindless bimbos who only care about sex and degeneracy, instead of as the charming and openly feminine loved ones that made them so appealing to men (even outside of capeshit or fiction in general) in the first place.

          It's no wonder women are constantly shunned and rejected by men in modern society, or made fun of, when the vast majority of them think whoring themselves out on OnlyFans is the ultimate path to career success that they'll ever have.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >>The series’ second story arc follows Frank Castle (Jon Bernthal) targeting corrupt cops misusing his symbol while Matt tries to stop him.
    They're gonna fricking make him change his skull symbol, aren't they? They did that in the last Punisher comic before they wrote off Frank entirely and "replaced" him with that GI Joe ripoff so it's not exactly "beneath" them.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why not revive his dead wife and have her berate him too while we're at it.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Please don't give them any ideas.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >used to like when Punisher had to deal with magic stuff (like when he fought The Hood)
        >fricking loathed the idea ever since Aaron got his greasy fingers all over him
        It's amazing how much a single perpetually dogshit run can change one's mind on a character.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          and it just keeps happening to every character

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I look forward to when Maria Castle shows up in nu-Punisher to berate GI Joe for "glorifying" Frank.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Don't forget she'll have to be re-cast from the hot White Milf she already was in OG Punisher to be a gorilla faced, uglyass ebony Black person to better suit "modern audiences."

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >t. Maria Castle recast who will tell him about his white privilege

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Jason Aaron
          The homosexual who fricked over Thor and Dr. Strange too, yeah?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah get ready for Weebnisher that doesn't even narratively make sense considering The Hand are known murderers and criminals. Like basically every one of Marvel's Street tier characters have got into beef with them at one point or another.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wowwww. Chuds really crying about some diversity again? Vanessa was a non character. Who cares if she’s improved with diversity?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >improved
      >won't be able to drive properly now
      >eats cats and doggos
      >her ethnicity is declining in their own homeland now

      Hardly an improvement at all.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I still don't know if Vanessa was emotionally manipulating Elektra here or not.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'd probably be more interested in this Daredevil shit if there was an entire arc where Fisk hires Elektra to be his bodyguard and Elektra just rizzes up Vanessa behind Fisk's back to turn her against him.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why is girl Frank kissing mom Frank? Are the Frankternal Twins?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          one could say it was Frankcest

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's a simple case of Frankception.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Thread died. And this Daredevil show will suck. Echo was already shit.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Foggy and Karen wont be Matt's partners bc in 2024 a white male main character cant have a white best friend and love interest. Instead they replaced them with token black woman no. 82192819 and a Hispanic woman. Another show where 50% of the cast is black. Black woman partner, black sassy reporter, black good guy cop. Just ridiculous.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Loki had a white best friend and love interest

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shite

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dead on arrival, that all sounds awful

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