Dark Universe can be saved by Werewolf

>Universal Classic Monsters have become a foundation for horror and monster movies. But Werewolf may be the key to bringing them back.
>Sadly, despite The Mummy's ambitions, the Dark Universe was put to rest almost as quickly as it was brought to life. While never officially killed, its direction changed drastically with the self-contained release of The Invisible Man. Since then, many have wondered if there was a place for the classic monsters to return and, if so, whether it would be worth connecting them once again. Werewolf has offered a strong case that the best way to reanimate the Dark Universe would be to go back to basics.
>The Universal Classic Monsters could do the same, and by relying on the classic influences that haven't been felt in nearly a century, it would help to reignite interest in its characters. Furthermore, by having their characters feel as though they're a part of another world could make eventually connecting them more plausible.

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Making a Dracula Untold sequel would save the Dark Universe. Both Luke Evans and Sarah Gadon want to come back, and it needs to happen before Charles Dance is too old. The movie is a cult classic now and was in the top trending on Netflix last month.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wolf is key character and literally created cinematic crossovers. Frankenstein vs Wolfman is the first movie of this kind. Obviously Wolfman is the only choice to bring dark universe together.

      I know about Luke, and he's very vocal about this, but never heard Sarah saying the same.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Mummy is also topping Netflix charts. Universal should seriously reconsider Dark Universe plans. Classic monsters deserve their universe no matter what.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >trusting netflix

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Mummy is also topping Netflix charts. Universal should seriously reconsider Dark Universe plans. Classic monsters deserve their universe no matter what.

      >Implying that "trending" on Netflix isn't just Netflix shilling

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dracula Untold is highly underrated. Luke Evans and Sarah Gadon were kino.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Making a sequel to a movie that didn't land with the public you're trying to lure into your 'verse might be the worst move you could possibly make.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't fucking understand how you can fuck up a Dracula anti hero story. It should print money

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It was great though. But no goths left to enjoy it. Vampires worked in the 80s through 00s because dark subcultures. Only moron culture exists now in mainstream

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          morons love horror movies and Castlevania though

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not really

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dracula Untold is highly underrated. Luke Evans and Sarah Gadon were kino.

      Luke Evans, Sarah Gadon and Charles Dance were great, but I think Dominic Cooper was miscast as a believable Turk.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Luke Evans wants to return but
        this is more complicated now. Dracula Untold was Legendary production distributed by Universal. Now their deal is over and Legendary took rights. Universal can not do Dracula Untold IP so they decided to bring back old school Dracula.

        It's honestly sad for Luke. He wanted to be a part of this monster universe so bad and now they ignore him.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Only if there's a gay werewolf sex scene

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No gayness pls.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No thanks.
    I want nothing to do where a universe includes that chud or that looney manlet who can't act.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What the fuck is this? Did an AI write this?
    >"Werewolf may be the key to bringing them back."
    Or is this like a click farming copy paste job by some ESL retard?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't blame me. I just copied the article, scrolling to Dark Universe part.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    American gothic monsters are not my favorite monsters. But I know the origina cycle from the 30s-50s very intimately. They can try but they should just avoid trying to make it into some blockbusters. So far all ideas I hear regarding this universe sound so mediocre.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They aren't american, apart from Gillman which comes from south amercan amazonian jungle, the rest all adopted from worldwide folklore.
      Dracula is from Romania
      The Mummy - Egypt
      Frankenstein - Austria/Germany
      Phantom of Opera - France

      Amercan gothic is something like headless horseman or witches of Salem.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the wolf man is set in Wales

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ah ok, I knew something british was missing.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's a film related term. In fact it was also a title of a book by one who's in a terrific documentary Universal Horror that I expect everyone here to know about and rewatch regularly.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are there any other fun Egypt kinos like The Mummy 1999?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Van helsing.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why these morans didn't use Van Helsing as a jumping off point boggles the mind. That movie had such great art direction and nice touches on the lore, much better than anything they came up with (especially Cruise's Mummy).

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      2004 genuinely was a different time.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How to fix Dark Universe:
    >Renfield movie introduces Cage as proper Dracula and at the end we get rather older guy playing Abraham Van Helsing and visiting Jekyll's office
    >Crowe gets standalone Hyde movie about his research on evil and how he created Prodigium - it's psychological drama
    >The Invisible Woman - Elisabeth Moss went completely insane and using stolen suit she goes on killing spree. Cop guy from previous film is the only person who can catch her but he is torn because she was his friend and now he has to stop her. She ends in asylum where Jekyll visits her.
    >Cruise return in The Scorpion King where he's searching for the cure for Set curse and unleashes Narmer - real scorpion king
    There, that should be enough for good start.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Paramount is releasing a werewolf movie set in the snow next year
    that'll be neat

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gosling?

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >While never officially killed, its direction changed drastically with the self-contained release of The Invisible Man
    I told you that Dark Universe is NOT DEAD. the Mummy literally posted that Renfield is next. It's not made up, The Mummy official posted this.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It is dead, it just doesn't know it. I guess a better term for it is undead.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >undead
        Very fitting one indeed. Dark Universe Undead

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They need it for their new monster themed park. Dark Universe will happen one way or another.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's what they say.

          Show me.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous
            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Oh, right. Press releases are absolute truth.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Different anon but universal ceo said something like they want to work on it and don't want to rush now. Jason blum from blumhouse studio also says that universal wants to resurrect dark universe. Wolfman producers also want to resurrect it. They say that they may use some of dark universe scripts. Also recently dark universe films like the mummy or that dracula origin story became sleeper hits on streaming so if universal is clever enough they may do it in the same way how disney releases star wars content on streaming after latest movie flops.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              So development hell until the first movie comes out in 3 years, then flops.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Universal studio is very slow with blockbuster franchises. It takes them 3-4 years between each FnF film and Jurassic World.
                JW1 - 2015
                JW2 - 2018
                JW3 - 2022

                So expect these darkverse films like:
                Renfield - 2023
                Wolfman - 2024
                Frankenstein - 2026

                It will take years.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                see

                That's what they say.

                Show me.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They could release them every year. But probably shouldn't even if it's technically possible. Crossovers is something that the original Universal horror cycle pioneered but never mastered. It was maybe one of the two cinematic universes before Marvel but this is when those movies started running out of steam. I'm going to give Van Helsing another chance but at least aesthetically it should probably be something similar except maybe with bigger focus on atmosphere.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Take it with a grain of salt but this guy claims that new Van Helsing is supposed to be about Elisabeth Bathory. Of course can be just larp but who knows - Cinemaphile leakers saying that new mummy is a woman turned out to be true and adding Bathory to Universal monsters doesn't seem like a bad idea.

                https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/168673286/

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Like the "official" sequel to the literary Dracula. What a shocking idea that was.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Attempted crossovers is what would kill the whole movie line, assuming it would ever come to fruition. Frankenstein's monster+werewolf? Mummy+Invisible man? They tried to GodzillaKong it already implying an agency like Monarch. It didn't take. They'd have to make a couple of actually good individual flicks first. Will not happen.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'd just mix some stand alones and crossovers to show that the world of gothic monsters is very varied and includes many distinct settings. Different for Dracula, Gill-Man or the Mummy. I'd make the movies set in fantasy "deep time" that might be 19th century might be today. Something unreal, atmospheric, rainy. And would probably introduce Dracula and Count Orlok. It wouldn't even require super big budget.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I like what you would do with it and would watch. When you're at the helm of the franchise, I'll be right there trimming the sails. Still won't happen, no matter how hard we wish.

                Dark Army is the only announced crossover. Universal announced it few years ago but they put it on hold and they want to do separate films first and then go with Dark Army.

                The whole 'goal' of dark universe project now is to have separate stories for every each monster and then later to connect them into dark army. Previously they wanted more crossover bits with Jekyll showing up in other movies but bad reception of The Mummy, which was mostly criticized for dark universe attemps, made them re-adjust their strategy. However they are going to keep the same world settings so they can do crossovers later.

                Announced, delayed, re-announced pending success of other properties still in planning stages and if your aunt had wheels she'd be a bicycle. When they make one good movie before rolling out their 10 year plan to make a whole terrorverse, it might be worth listening.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Dark Army is the only announced crossover. Universal announced it few years ago but they put it on hold and they want to do separate films first and then go with Dark Army.

                The whole 'goal' of dark universe project now is to have separate stories for every each monster and then later to connect them into dark army. Previously they wanted more crossover bits with Jekyll showing up in other movies but bad reception of The Mummy, which was mostly criticized for dark universe attemps, made them re-adjust their strategy. However they are going to keep the same world settings so they can do crossovers later.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I like what you would do with it and would watch. When you're at the helm of the franchise, I'll be right there trimming the sails. Still won't happen, no matter how hard we wish.
                [...]
                Announced, delayed, re-announced pending success of other properties still in planning stages and if your aunt had wheels she'd be a bicycle. When they make one good movie before rolling out their 10 year plan to make a whole terrorverse, it might be worth listening.

                >Marvel "they are successful because of 10 years plans"
                And somehow in this case planning far ahead is a good strategy.

                >Universal "the dark universe failed because they had no plan"
                And yet anon says that planning 10 years ahead is bad idea.

                Universal failed only because they did not commit. When Marvel released Ironman they already had Hulk coming. Universal fucked everything up by releasing The Mummy with nothing to follow up next. If Frankenstein or I don't know, maybe Phantom of the Opera, was right next then the universe wouldn't die. These idiots filmed The Mummy and then decided to wait and this waiting killed the concept.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Universal fucked everything up by releasing The Mummy with nothing to follow up next. If Frankenstein or I don't know, maybe Phantom of the Opera, was right next then the universe wouldn't die. These idiots filmed The Mummy and then decided to wait and this waiting killed the concept.
                BECAUSE THEY ARE FUCKING RETARDED. THEY WAIT YEARS AND I MEAN FUCKING YEARS. 3 FUCKING YEARS BETWEEN THE MUMMY AND THE INVISIBLE MAN KILLED THE DARK UNIVERSE.

                THIS IS NOT JUST MY OPINION. PIC RELATED.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If only they managed to turn it into a success (which would require some actual talent because right now people don't care) maybe then Universal wouldn't have to put the pressure on Jurassic Park movies forcing them to make them. And I love that franchise which is why I want them to stop making them. It's ok for things to end especially as you're in a losing streak.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Even if Invisible Man released right after Mummy it wouldn't have changed anything. They have a completely different tone and vibe. And what would it be leading to? Elizabeth Moss joining Tom Cruise? That's a completely mismatched casting and no one would care.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >They have a completely different tone and vibe.
                That's what they planned since the beginning. Different tone and style of each movie was supposed to be the main difference between dark universe and MCU. I would love to see a cinematic universe with different tones instead of same recycled bland repetitive crap.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But what's the point of making it a shared universe if none of the movies even feel compatible? Just make then standalone.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They planned the failure of the movies that were meant to launch their money mine?
                Different tone and style in the movies that were meant to serve as the foundation of a rich tapestry?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                maybe the tone is different but the outcome is the same
                >the mummy - crazy mosnter is stalking scientologist and she doesnt want to kill him but rather to play a game and wants to make him her evil god hubby
                >the invisible man - crazy monster is stalking a scientologist and doesnt want to kill her but rather plays a game and wants a baby

                literally same plot, minus dr jekyll and his non-shield

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Was all this shit supposed to lead up to a League of Extraordinary Gentlemen reboot or something?
                These are stories that are better off standing alone, not having Men in Black or some BPRD league chasing them about.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Marvel had successful movies first. Yes, they had a plan, but they earned it for the first few properties. Not so much now, but still.
                Who said Universal's universe failed because they had no plan? It failed because its lynchpin movies were crap. Trying to base its theoretical decade of content on a couple of flops is worth attention somehow?

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    that Invisible Man movie was fucking awful one of the stupidest most boring piece of shit films ever concocted

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The big problem is that nobody gives a shit about dracula, or frankenstein, or the wolf man anymore. These things aren't scary anymore.

    If they try to make it all action, it'll be soulless. If they try to make it scary nobody will be scared. They can't win on this. The things they'd need to do to make this work are beyond Hollywood at the minute. They would need actual vision, something beyond "hey them marvel films made a lot of money, we like money too!"

    I think there is potential for great retelling of those stories, I just don't think anyone in Hollywood knows how to do it.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Furshit is now the biggest trend in Hollywood (aside from capeshit) so they would make a shitton of money making a movie about werewolves.
    Furries would go in droves to watch that film, provided they make the werewolves attractive enough and not abominations like Cats 2019.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Dark Universe is dea-
    *laughs in Lugosi*

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That looks like Nic Cage in a shit ton of makeup.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I always felt like Carlos Villarias looked like Christopher Lee crossed with Nicolas Cage. And many years later my prophecy came true and Nicolas Cage will be Dracula.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i am convinced the only people who think about the "dark universe" movies are the people who made them.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hey I rewatched the best Universal cycle movies last October. And although it's not my favorite movie monster factory if they had a good idea for new movies I'd like to watch it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There's a niche audience for action horor films and there's very few action horrors now as Underworld series is basically over. Dark Universe was an idea to fill the niche and honestly there is really nothing like. It's either dumb cheesy superhero flicks for kids or manbabies or straight up horrors where nothing happens.

        Dark Universe isn't the only project that tried to fill the gap. Remember Vin Diesel's The Last Witch Hunter? The movie was very similar in concept of action horror and was supposed to get a sequel too but nothing happens...

        okay but you can't prove to me that you weren't involved in the production of these films.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There's a niche audience for action horor films and there's very few action horrors now as Underworld series is basically over. Dark Universe was an idea to fill the niche and honestly there is really nothing like. It's either dumb cheesy superhero flicks for kids or manbabies or straight up horrors where nothing happens.

      Dark Universe isn't the only project that tried to fill the gap. Remember Vin Diesel's The Last Witch Hunter? The movie was very similar in concept of action horror and was supposed to get a sequel too but nothing happens...

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Churning out shit to fill a niche doesn't mean that it isn't still shit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >i am convinced the only people who think about the "dark universe" movies are the people who made them.
      Most of these people enjoy such movies at home. The Mummy for example became this year's streaming hit. I'm not even joking.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Streaming hit
        Did your chosen streaming site tell you that? Must be true.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How about different sites?

          https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/a-dark-and-dusty-tom-cruise-reboot-wraps-up-streaming-success/

          https://www.gamesradar.com/netflix-top-10-tom-cruise-the-mummy/

          https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/culture/article/the-mummy-tom-cruise

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >these sites provide hard facts
            >mfw

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Can't bruise Tom Cruise. But seriously I think people went way too harsh on this movie. It was only introduction to the franchise and yet everyone went nuts like it is some The Last Jedi tier crap. They should've given it a chance and who knows what was planned next.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Nu mummy could never compete with brendan mummy

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why would it? One was parody of Indiana Jones and the other was supposed to be slightly more serious reboot classic monsters. I don't see how people even compare these two. Nu mummy should be rather compared to 1930s one or to Hammer series because of similar rather serious but still somewhat campy tone.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nu Mummy is a Tom Cruise action movie. It's not like either of those.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Majority of people alive that even know about the mummy is from brendan mummy fanbase. Blue tint serious cruise mummy was lame where compared to brendan mummy series

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because the new version is based on Bram Stoker's mummy book so it obviously should be more serious. In fact I think they kinda ruined it with lame jokes, especially zombie friend. The rest was good. I don't mind Jekyll showing up for 10 minutes.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Only read dracula. Its on my shelf actually right next to me. Wasnt aware he wrote the mummy also. I can tell you right now they fucked up big time adapting it. I know Bram's dracula style well. Can imagine mummy is similar. Gonna have to get a copy now. Thanks for info

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's called The garden gnomeel of Seven Stars. It's about bringing Egyptian queen Tera to London and resurrecting her. Bram Stoker was autistic in terms of egyptology so there's a lot of background with egyptian rituals and tomb exploration and everything is down to details. Also, please read 1st editon from 1903 with original grim eding rather than happy end version from 1912. I love this novel, IMO it's much better than Dracula.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fuck yeah dude screen shotting so I remember. Haven't found anything worth reading in so long. Burned through so much in my 20s. Mid 30s now starving for something interesting.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, The Mummy is based on "She". Literally everything, starting with two adventurers finding her hiding place to the moment her life is sucked out. Also including her attempts to seduce and sacrifice one of them she believes to be her reincarnated lover.

                >>She, in full She: A History of Adventure, romantic novel by H. Rider Haggard, published in 1887, about two adventurers who search for a supernatural white queen, Ayesha, or “She-Who-Must-Be-Obeyed,” who is the ruler of a lost African city called Kôr. Ayesha has waited for 2,000 years for the reincarnation of her lover, whom she killed out of jealousy. She is beautiful and powerful and finds her reincarnated ideal in Leo Vincey, who is her lover’s descendant. He falls under her spell, and she attempts to make him immortal; she tries to persuade him to pass through a magic fire, but in doing so herself, she ages and crumbles into dust.

                Even the poster with her eyes in the background overseeing destruction is taken straight from "She" book cover.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            holy fuckinh kek trying to resurrect a total flop because new film notoriety

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you snooze, you lose

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dracula was great. Mummy was lame. A dark universe wont work. The film makers are too tame.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lovecraft would work. None of the garden gnomes have the balls.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Lovecraft would never succeed. No attempt has worked. It is strictly for imagination. If you think it would work you've never read the stories yourself.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          thanks for your input, schlomo

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Lol called ya out gay. Go read the books. Then you will know.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          whatever the attempt it would still be better than darkness universe

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No not really. Lovecraft was a very racist man. Hollywood would fuck up his works for spite. Even if they ignored that they still couldn't grasp the vibe. Can tell you've never read the stories yourself also. Youtube and wiki doesn't give you an understanding dipshit

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >tips yarmulke

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                bro I don't even know what that is. Go read a book gay

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I don't understand what you said.
                >nig talk
                >YOU go read a book.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I was with you. Until this. Ooga booga isn't victory.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah but ya know youre very much no one but another anon so.. Ooga booga. All boards should have post ids.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you might be more comfortable on a site that doesnt have anonymus as a selling point
                may i suggest reddit

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Lol called ya out gay. Go read the books. Then you will know.

          discarded
          queue the madgay seethe posts

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Dracula was great.
      No it wasnt it was literal capeshit wearing a dracula blackface

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    With respect to all dark universe monsters fans, I think The Mummy suffered because of the dark universe. It would be a much better film without dark universe connections. They had cool ideas for a completely new take where the mummy isn't just a villain but is also somehow connected to main hero and then they ruined everything with universe nobody asked for.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I think The Mummy suffered because of the dark universe. It would be a much better film without dark universe connections.
      100% this. I loved the movie but fuck dark universe. Without all that crap we would get a proper mummy film with just Tom Cruise and whatshername princess. Simple separate selfcontained gothic romance story. No connections to Jekyll or Dracula and Frankenstein.

      Any anons know something about the progress on Mummy fanedit cut?

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I saw this Mummy movie on Netflix. Cool ending where Cruise tricked that mummified princess with the sword. If they want to bring more creatures like Werewolf then that's fine. There's potential for an interesting series. No idea why it was rated so low. It's better than half of woke crap Hollywood pushes out.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm more curious why they call it a flop when it made almost 410M on the budget of only 125M. Meanwhile Black Adam may not even hit 400M and that film had budget of 190M but somehow this time it's not a flop?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm more curious why they call it a flop when it made almost 410M on the budget of only 125M. Meanwhile Black Adam may not even hit 400M and that film had budget of 190M but somehow this time it's not a flop?

      Oh, good the shillbots are here.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm more curious why they call it a flop when it made almost 410M on the budget of only 125M. Meanwhile Black Adam may not even hit 400M and that film had budget of 190M but somehow this time it's not a flop?

      fuck off universal
      we're not eating your turd buffet

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