David Chase and Matthew Weiner have said it’s their favorite show and I’m really having a tough time understanding why. The Sopranos is a realistic drama with great psychological insights… Twin Peaks is certainly not that. The characters are cardboard archetypes that exist to serve the narrative (but that’s part of the charm! you say. I don’t care), the cinematography is extremely limited by the TV budgets of the time, and the humor is le zany wacky reddit shit
>Isn’t so quirky?!
>isn’t it so le surreal?!
Point being, it’s “dated.” I know people have a problem with that term, but the thing is, the movies of the 90s were not the formative works of their medium the way TV and vidya were. Comparing TV and vidya nostalgia to other media nostalgia is a false equivalency and only illustrates why games and TV of this age should be critically reassessed.
I guess my point is, I don’t understand why Chase and Weiner cite this as their primary influence. I should think they’d be influenced by Goodfellas and the mob movies of the time, because unlike Twin Peaks, The Sopranos is very cinematic.
>”it felt more like real life to me than real life” Chase said
Genuinely an absurd opinion, it’s a melodrama, and melodramas are based in heightened, unrealistic emotion. It’s okay if you like that, but it is NOT anything like real life.
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I don't get why they can't have a favorite show that is different than the one they made.
also some of the dream sequences were definitely inspired by Lynch
It’s the first tv show that actually took tv somewhat seriously and tried to be artistic instead of moronic mind numbing shitty soap operas like everything else was at the time. It was instrumental as first step to TV eventually being seen as potentially meaningful as movies. Anyone who wrote shows afterwards would’ve admired it simply for that, because every modern TV show owes itself to Twin Peaks.
This, Sopranos was the first "prestige" cable show, which acted like it was basically a long movie instead of simple and episodic entertainment. They're not saying they tried to emulate TP content wise, but inspired to push the boundaries of what TV could be. That said, OP got brutally filtered by the best show ever made.
>It’s the first tv show that actually took tv somewhat seriously and tried to be artistic
stopped reading here. you morons will write anything that comes up in you peasized brains.
Yeah, Twin Peaks is my favorite show but it came after Miami Vice, The Prisoner, and all of the miniseries Bergman did. That said, there’s definitely a lot more quality shows after Twin Peaks (even just in the 90s) than there are before it.
>Miami Vice, The Prisoner, and all of the miniseries Bergman did
All shit
>Twin Peaks
Shit too. The real first show was The X-Files.
who the frick likes the x-files but hates TP?
Normal people
>who the frick likes the x-files
morons
>t. a manchild who hasn't seen any of them
>It was instrumental as first step to TV eventually being seen as potentially meaningful as movies
I'd argue Columbo did it first, but other than that I agree.
Columbo was just a well filmed TV show, it's only closer to movies because of the length of each episode. Every episode has the same basic theme, you can watch any episode at any point, it's good but it's no different to everything else.
filtered and LYNCHED
Flynchered
?
What’s there to question
Just a lameass word to make up
Episodes like the test dream and the Finnerty saga are definitely inspired by Twin Peaks
Looks like Lynch filtered another pleb
What a cope of a rebuttal homosexual
Tldr you got Lunched.
Lynch is such a perfectly sincere artist. He has so much soul your autistic minf goes “whats so smart about this gay bullshit”. You dont even realize he’s god damn channeling the universe, and if you could do the same you’d go make a movie on your phone that makes people laugh and cry and love to be alive, but you can’t so even with all the time in the world and infinite resources you’d churn out shit.
>“whats so smart about this gay bullshit”
Holy shit this. It's always pseud intellectuals having this problem. The show simply has soul and meta. The way it's designed as a parody of a soap opera with an actual meaning is what makes it intelligent.
yeah they want a clever video essay to talk about "arcs" and "tropes" and "realistic character psychology" but what's good about lynch is impossible to articulate in those bugman terms. there is not special "point" somebody can explain to you, the point is watching it.
>”it felt more like real life to me than real life”
He makes this reference in one of the dream sequences in Sopranos when Tony and Carmela are watching a Western, a Christmas movie, and themselves on that small television on the kitchen top.
of course a sopranostard cannot into TP
And you favorite show has the same acronym as toilet paper
I think I'll smoke that cigarette. I brought a soda just so I could put the ashes and the butt in the can so as not to set the whole town of T.P. on fire. We call Twin Peaks T.P. in school sometimes. The world wipes its butt with T.P. Bobby Briggs says that the most. Then he pulls all the girls' hair and makes burping noises in our faces.
TS = Transexual
Frick off troony
Twin peaks season 1 is everything.Pure, soulful beauty
Watching again after a long time and I've got to say I'm enjoying the second season a lot. I remember a good chunk of the second half being shit but the show is even better after a rewatch so far.
problem with season 2 is that it goes too far with its soap opera shtick. basically you can skip 90% of it and go onto watching fwwm and season 3.
Skipping it reduces the impact of S2E22, the greatest TV episode of all time
but if you watched it once there's really no reason to watch it again, while thebresto of the series is very enjoyable to come back to.
>it goes too far with its soap opera shtick
It does ramp it up but my problem isn't the soap opera shit as much as some of it seems to just trail into nothing with no real payoff. Kind of disappointed in how the Donna/James/Lauren's cousin arc fizzled out. Still entertaining for the most part.
yup and billy zane character that just comes and goes, or james leaving town. just a lot of loose content.
I think Mark Frost tried to wrap some of the loose ends up that were ignored by the 3rd season in the books he wrote. There is also the Missing Pieces which at least gives us a taste of the prequel soap arcs. It's too bad that it was cancelled, wish we got more comfy '90s seasons.
>season 3.
Lmao
you didn't like it?
There’s no such thing schizo
kys
Sure you’re not the schizo?
There's nothing to like you fricking tryhard idiot. It's complete nonsense
>It's complete nonsense
Midwit cope
Kys
keep coping smoothbrain
Kys
>cinematography is extremely limited by the TV budgets of the time
twin peaks is way better looking than sopranos what are you on
another homosexual got filtered
nice blogpost pleb
But what of I, Claudius?
Miniseries don't count, they're event television. there've been miniseries that were big "artistic" pieces as far back as the 70s at least. I'd argue even The Prisoner counts since McGoohan only wanted to make like 8 episodes originally.
motherfricking pseud have you ever heard of star trek?
What the frick are you talking about, Star Trek had three seasons, it's not a miniseries
Watch 6-8 hours of prime time TV series c. 1989-1990 (especially dying nighttime soaps like Dallas & Dynasty but excluding Miami Vice or Wiseguy) then watch the pilot of Twin Peaks afterwards.
I finished the sopranos recently and I thought the twin peaks influence was easy to see. Even if you're too moronic to see it in the rest of the series, it's extremely obvious in the dream sequences.
i'm not gonna read the rest of your post when the only way you can articulate yourself is by saying le reddit
Do we think the sandwich would have merited such praise?
idk but the smoked cheese pig looked delicious so probably yeah
>The Sopranos is a realistic drama
Stopped reading there. Fricking lmao.
>The Sopranos is a realistic drama with great psychological insights
Do sopranogays really...?
This is the most Lynched and filtered post I've ever read, easily in the top because it actually makes an attempt at formal analysis only to end up pitting Twin Peaks against The Sopranos, and then confusing your own point by confusing movies and tv and making it about... 90s videogames.
The Prisoner>Twin Peaks
This bothered me, same with a bunch of other shit he's done. "Oh, you are sick"
feel sorry for yuh that missed /tpg/ brehs
Still around sometimes
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/subject/TPG/
Doesn’t really look like it buddyo
Why would you call someone a buddyo?
Condescension
How old are you, because that's the real issue. People are Input/output machines, so people actually do imitate the media they consume. Imagine narutards, rick and Morty spergs, memelords, and women who say I can't believe xyz all watched the same derivative bullshit aka 80s soap operas. Now you parody those, and suddenly you get Portlan--I mean twin peaks.
op got lynched holy shit
what op thinks unlimited cinematography looks like
>I guess my point is, I don’t understand why Chase and Weiner cite this as their primary influence.
Twin Peaks invented a format that ended up becoming the primary form of American tv drama. If the virtues of the show aren't immediately apparent, it's because almost every show you've ever watched was in some way influenced by it.
we're already in year 5 of shows ripping off the return. twin peaks will forever be #1 influence
You’re deluded if your think anyone’s ripping this shit off
You’re deluded