All of these comics are going to receive new creative teams this October
>Batman and Robin
>Catwoman
>Detective Comics
>Harley Quinn
>Nightwing
If they aren't good then DC is FINISHED
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Can’t Catwoman just stay cancelled?
no. I need material to coom to.
no it just getting a new creative team for #69
Wait Williamson is leaving B&R?
Correct.
That's a shame, but I understand
I'm not sure who would be able to take over the title after him
I think Jeremy Adams could do a good job. He likes Damian and wrote the Super Sons movie.
But he is probably too busy with Green Lantern.
>Jeremy Adams
>after his recent batcest comments
I mean he would do a good job but holy shit the seethe it would cause
What were his comments?
When asked about non-canon ships that he liked, he said that he liked Jason and Cass together
This immediately riled up both the comictwitter and the annoying part of batfandom, which he responded with a follow up tweet saying what about Damian and Cass and then hosted a twitter poll between the two pairs to see which people liked more
>two characters who are not biologically related and didn't even grow up together
What the hell's the problem?
Who knows. Batman doesn't even see Cass as a daughter anyway.
Yeah, I've noticed how when Zdarsky has Bruce talk about "family" it really means "me and my catamites".
I have noticed that DC is now pushing that the Robins are his sons and the rest are BAT-family.
Wasn't it always the case? The robins were always the dearest to him and then everyone else. I would say that they just upgraded Selina's role.
Batman Beyond Comics ALWAYS pushed this
Even Damian learned that Terry was his brother and was anal that he got the cool stuff and Dick became mayor.
Logically I don’t think they would like each other but that’s really it
>Joshua Williamson explains exits from Batman and Robin and Green Arrow
>"I've been feeling some burn out for a bit now. I've been burning the candle at both ends for a few years and it was very clear that I needed to take some time off and reduce my schedule drastically," Joshua Williamson wrote. "I've been writing a LOT of books the last few years, and as much as I loved every minute of it, I need to recharge and reset. Spend more time with my young family and adjust my priorities. I've talked about this a bit in past newsletters and then in the videos with Sal on YouTube. That I often times feel like I've been running a marathon, and I've learned how to be a better runner while on the move, but I've never taken the time to finish the marathon, rest, stretch, and run smarter. I'm often envious of directors or writers who finish a project and then take some time to just THINK about the next one. This is often difficult in comics as we're a weekly business. But I knew I needed it."
>Joshua Williamson announced his departure from writing Batman and Robin and Green Arrow on his Substack newsletter. Batman and Robin #13 is his final issue of the series, while Green Arrow #17 and the Green Arrow Annual scheduled for October are his last for that series as well. Williamson was quick to point out that the decision to step away from both titles were his choice, and he explained his reasoning behind the choices he made. In some positive news, Batman and Robin and Green Arrow will continue with new creative teams, and Williamson is excited about the choices DC made with the eteams.
That’s understandable. Burnout sucks and I am glad he’s spending more time with his family.
I don't even think it was necessary for them to do much more than let Williamson plot out whatever he might have done with B&R in, frankly, a loose fashion and let the new team see what they can do in say 5-6 issues. If sales maintain, keep the title. If not, cancel it.
Green Arrow on the other hand, is a different thing, but if it had to end after say 24 issues, they should consider doing a team up book with Oliver - perhaps after a brief break.
Tec won't matter unless it's a huge sale drop - which it likely won't be.
Catwoman has been ongoing since the title changed after Rebirth. It can also safely be replaced for something else. A good Zatanna 12 issue maxi-series, based in the magic corners of the DCU, instead of just focused on her, would be a good replacement. If it sells well, it can start a new on-going.
Sadly, Psychotic Murder Clown b***h will probably continue no matter what.
Catwoman has been ongoing since the 90s with a break in the early 2000s before Brubaker and a two year break from 2016 to 2018 where she was a mainstay in Batman
What's exactly super important about these books that they will make or break DC? I don't even think Batman & Robin book should exist because Bruce and Damian are legit boring together. Catwoman isn't essential to exit and neither HQ really. Tec always had its up and down moments. Nightwing is boring and almost all his runs are lib services about how "great" he is, but they fail everytime to show us what's exactly super special about him compared to thousands other heroes.
>Nightwing is boring and almost all his runs are lib services about how "great" he is, but they fail everytime to show us what's exactly super special about him compared to thousands other heroes
Nightwing is wish fulfillment character. This is his purpose.
DC have bigger issues than these books, kek. The fact their big league characters don't sell well is much bigger deal than these side characters.
For real. I would say canceling these books would actually be a good step.
This. Green lantern and flash failling this hard is more concerning. Aquaman can't even carry a book and it's not like WW or Superman are doing that great either. The bat fatigue seems to be kicking in too.
>Nightwing is boring and almost all his runs are lib services about how "great" he is
Isn't like half his runs just him getting his shit beaten in and everything around him falling apart?
Which is why it's ironic how much praise he gets from almost everyone when he really doesn't deserve it.
My bets
>Batman and Robin
I want Jeremy Adams but it will probably be some intern or Josie Campbell
>Catwoman
Leah Williams
>Detective Comics
Rosenberg or PKJ
>Harley Quinn
Not a clue.
>Nightwing
Mark Waid
If DC doesn’t get Mark Waid for Nightwing then they are crazy.
>All Batbooks
The timing of B&R release was weird. It fit nowhere in continuity and it's not like it added anything to Damian or Bruce. It seems to exist just to give Damian something to do.
Now that I think about, didn't the event of GW last for few days and Batman quickly abandoned Damian anyway before he went solo? Where does it even fit in?
Batman and B&R are so completely disconnected they might as well take place in alternate universes.
That's every DC comic now.
It's kind of funny how you only realize the value of things when you lose them. Continuity for example. I was one of the homosexuals complaining that it was constricting stories, but now that it doesn't exist, all stories seem equally meaningless.
the same could be applied to the current run of tec, none of the Batman ongoing have any form of continuity between them.
Well, it can be said that the events of Tec happened before Chip's run, but BR was stated to happen during the GW which makes zero sense.
It was created because of James Gunn.
The original plan was for Damian to give up the Robin mantle and make Damian a OC codename after Mark Waid’s event. This is because DC Comics was pushing Tim Drake as the main Robin so they can push the “Gay Robin” as the core Robin for progressive points (they were still coming off Future State).
Then James Gunn announced Damian Wayne as the Robin in The Brave and the Bold movie which changed their plans.
DC then decided they wanted to keep Damian as Robin as Synergy so they rushed out as quickly as possible. And since Williamson had already written a Damian run, they decided to ask him again as a favor to quickly put a book out there.
I love James Gunn.
Frick Tim.
Tim isn't worse than Damian if we are being honest. They are both can be equally annoying.
At least Tim is there for the family and treat well while almost everyone is there for Damian and he treats them like a trash.
Why samegay?
Also the obvious Robin rankings are
Dick
Damian
Jason
Tim
It’s not even really a debate, it’s been this way since way wayyyy before Tim was made gay and since jason was brought back from the dead. Both of them are fricking awful for the last 20 years.
>It’s not even really a debate
Is it now? And who decided this? You?
Nah Tim’s by far the worst robin.
I will take Tim over Damian anytime. Damian is legitimately one of the worst things to happen to Batman. He pretty dragged his character down.
>he samegays again
This. Tim introduction wasn't exactly great, but he is tolerable. Damian is an almost one note character who go through the same arc in every story.
>Damian is legitimately one of the worst things to happen to Batman
This. I have high respect for Grant Morrison in most other contexts, but he REALLY fricked up Bat comics by inventing a Robin that outranks all other Robins and ruins their niches. Damian should not exist, and if he exists he should not be a part of the Bat family but part of Al Ghul family.
Timgay (singular) you’re insufferable
Schizo (singular) you’re insufferable
Damian is far better character than Tim ever was. Fact!!!
That it doesn't fit anywhere in continuity can be blamed on the Batoffice editorial since they can't manage continuity between the titles for shit (seriously, why have an arc in the main Batman title that heavily features Damian without having the Batman and ROBIN title involved?)
Only time the events of the book has been referenced anywhere was in the Beast World Star City tie-in which was also written by Williamson
Well, releasing the book during an event where the purpose of it is having Batman going solo wasn't exactly a great idea, but it seems they were forced to release it because of muh synergy. I'm not even surprised that Williamson has left and completely expected it because he is kind of didn't seem passionate about it.
I hope you’re ready to get nothing but bad news. Jason Aaron’s homosexual ass will be on one of these, minimum. The rest won’t be any better.
DC has decided it will go down with its middle fingers proudly pointed at the readership they adamantly believe they know better than.
Hasn't it been rumored for a while now that Aaron is taking over Tec ever since they announced Off-World
Well, as much as I think DC is a failure of company, the idea that the readership knows better is kind of laughable.
The readership at least knows what they don't want to buy, which is one thing more than DC knows.
>Jason Aaron’s homosexual ass will be on one of these, minimum
Jason Aaron's Batman: Offworld was one of the most tolerable Batman comics in recent memory so him taking over something like Tec would be good news actually.
have a nice day shill. But thank you for basically confirming he’ll be on detective.
Jason is busy with TMNT.
DC has been finished since they changed to that logo.
Two more weeks
Williamson would be the best name for Nightwing.
Kelly Thompson is either getting Harley or Catwoman
Kelly Thompson should be fired, she's one of the worst writers I have ever had the displeasure of reading. Below shitty fanfic level.
better than tini howard at least.
More bat-shit. And not a single non-Bat superhero in sight.
No one cares about DC
>damigay shitting his pants yet again
Okay DC, you give me a trade of all 4 issues before the election and I'll buy it.
Simple.
I hope every single employee at DC Comics is fired and becomes homeless.