Yes, this was a plot point Rick knew throughout the first season. When he tells his gang they all act distraught but that doesn't make any sense to me. If you died of natural causes what does it matter that you'll turn? I honestly don't understand the emphasis that was put on this plot point.
because the zombies look like suffering people who aren't in control of their bodies. even if the consciousness isn't actually there, it still leave that impression
Bc if your with anyone you can never really be “safe”. Your sleeping in your hideout or something and the person next to you dies in there sleep they can just eat your ass or bite you then your fricked
The problem isn't the consciousness or suffering of the zombies, it's that anyone who's *currently* alive and within the circle of safety can become a zombie and jeopardize the group's safety. There's a reason the show is called 'walking dead'. It's not just the zombies themselves.
because then if old dale died of old age at night he'll just start eating the other soon to be zombies now, meaning even if you barricade yourself everyone is still a potential zombie
>Dump thousands of rounds into a horde >They still keep coming, you run out of ammo eventually >Every time one of your guys dies, they get another member
Artillery mostly kills you by blowing your limbs off or shockwaves, neither of which kill a zombie, slowing it down and making your job harder as you have to go and clear out a bunch of crawlers
If you blow their limbs off the zombies are effectively neutralized. They can lay there and wait for the mop up team to come and deliver the coup de grace
the world war z book talks about how zombies with missing limbs are much shittier to deal with because you want them standing up in the open so you see whem from a mile away when they walk towards you, and you can take the headshot from a safe distance.
a crawler with no legs grabbing you in tall grass or debris is much scarier
I liked the book when I was 12 but obviously if you're using the same shit Israel is dropping on Gaza there isn't going to be any muscle tissue left on the bones to crawl.
>shockwaves >don't kill
This is the most moronic idea to come out of zombie scenarios. The idea that whacking a zombie in the head with a plank of wood or a bat is somehow more lethal than detonating high explosive at point blank is absurd. The shockwave from a high explosive will liquify your entire body because the pressure is so extreme it's like being put inside a hydraulic press. Frick, it doesn't even take a high explosive or a significant quantity to cause serious damage. If you were holding a .50 calibre round and it went off in your hand, you would lose all of your fingers and probably your hand too. That's not even a high explosive, that's just a propellant and in small quantities. Even in a bomb disposal suit, an artillery shell can turn you into fricking soup.
If you want to see how moronic it is then look at RAF Fauld. An underground munitions dump that exploded because a worker used a metal tool which caused a spark. It created a massive crater and the shockwave destroyed and damaged buildings that were several miles away and that was underground inside a mine.
>They still keep coming, you run out of ammo eventually
I don't think you realize just how much ammo exists you fricking moron. The US military alone has somewhere between half a trillion and a trillion rounds of small arms ammo. Hell the CIVILIAN population of the US has enough to mow down the hoard
Pink mist anon. That's what remains of a body if an artillery grenade explodes at its feet.
The military can't do shit against beings that have nothing to lose and can multiply easily
>Get into tank >Lure horde to an open field using a big speaker or something >Crush them
You can do this and get rid of a billion zombies easily using a small fraction of the fuel you would waste deploying a whole army, helicopters and other useless shit
literally just wear biker gear + gloves + helmet and get some sharp ass spear and you can kill hundreds of slow walking zombies
human teeth cant chew through leather
>multiply easily
They have to bite people to multiply, while being a lot slower than the living. Not exactly easy.
literally just wear biker gear + gloves + helmet and get some sharp ass spear and you can kill hundreds of slow walking zombies
human teeth cant chew through leather
Pic related should handle a few hundred. A well equipped platoon of soldiers could deal with a hundred thousand.
>They have to bite people to multiply
No, they multiply by people inevitably dying. If Grandma dies in her sleep she zombifies and comes to bite you in your sleep. Would you be wearing your biker armor then?
only a small percentage of modern armies are comprised of infantry/combat roles and once the logistics and resupply chain breaks down their effectiveness is going to plummet.
Combined with the fact that zombies are in close quarters scenarios with civilians I can see things going to shit really quickly
>wake up tired >barely time for breakfast >head off to work, 1 hour in transit >work all day >head back home, another hour in transit >too tired/late to do anything >go to bed >repeat
I haven't had the time or energy to do laundry in like 3 months, how the FRICK do they expect me to balance all that shit?
Find a job that's closer or take the hit and move closer to your job for a higher living expense. If you work 5 days a week that's 10 hours of simply commuting. Not worth it, anon.
And yet here you are shitposting on Cinemaphile as though we were your teenage angst diary. Log off and sort your fricking life out or at least do the laundry you whiny pussy.
>I haven't had the time or energy to do laundry in like 3 months
literally me for this entire winter so far, barely had the energy to workout, gained weight, and dont even have much interest in doing my usual hobbies. not even my government paid stims are helping half the days. i thought seasonal depression was a meme before now
'muh virus' zombies are so tired and gay, if your zombies weren't raised from the dead by witchcraft or turned into superhuman monsters by space magic your zombie show is de facto unpatriotic
tfw no voodoo zombie slave kino. They're all usually just mindless animals who want to eat humans, but only enough to kill them, and leave the victim with enough muscle mass to become a zombie themselves.
Even in hungry zombie kinos why don't they ever eat a person fully, so they're just a skeleton?
I'd watch a movie where all the homosexual jerk off zombie apocalypse fantasies go out the window because it turns out corpses animated by the souls of the damned don't care about le zombie rules.
Suits are uncreative and chase fads, when one zombie thing got popular (28 Days Later maybe) it meant that money would get tossed at other zombie things until they stopped making money. There was a bit of a vampire fad in the late 90s through the 2000s that started because of Interview With the Vampire and Buffy, and after Gladiator there were a bunch of other history themed action movies like Troy.
My brother was just talking to me about how many tranq users with necrotic flesh he's had to see at his ER the past few weeks and how it's growing larger and larger. Fentynal would just kill you but tranq just eats your body forever and it sounds like a living hell.
realistically you would have a place where you destroy the stairs and use a ladder. Also spears to kill the walkers. And naturally lots of riding bikes
Even resident evil 2 makes more sense stupidly due to the t-virus transmitting through other animals.
In the case of human only infection the only people who will get caught are those prone to mass hysteria who rush the supermarket the moment someone tells them toilet paper supplies are running low.
Out of all things, RE has some stuff about the zombie outbreak that kinda make sense. Like how zombies are just failed byproducts of the T-virus, and even in 2 it's the G-virus that's the real shit that will ruin everything if it gets out.
military training + remote medieval fort with water access = easy main operating base you can conduct genocide from. the biggest issue would be making sure nobody inside is infected
have a night watch and a force everyone to cuff themselves to a metal pipe or something when they sleep
Someone will always become complacent and get bitten after months of the same thing. The people are not super soldiers, just regular people forced into the situation. And besides, if they didn't there will be no story.
Sure people will get complacent. But complacency on fire watch (and I call it fire watch because the US Army already has people perform this form of night guard duty in basic fricking training and it is called fire watch) means you and the person you are with both take a shit at the same time, or one of you takes a nap while the other stays awake during your two hour guard duty shift.
It doesn't mean no one on guard duty ever notices anything for the week it would take for someone to get sick and die.
If they are alive they can uncuff themselves with their keys
If they are zombies they will not be able to use their keys
Honestly the same effect could be had by just putting people in a room that locks from the inside with a latch lock you need to jump and manipulate to open. A human will unlock it no problem a zombie will just stand around and moan.
Your fault is that you think everyone in the army is some kind of well trained man that's at his top physical and mental efficiency. 99% of the ones that are in the army don't know how to clean their rifles, hit a target at 100 meters or run a km without fainting. Most consider themselves lucky if they even do some target practice once a year. The daily routine of a soldier is work as a security guard for 8 hours a day where you pretend you are looking for intruders, and if you are among the "smart" ones that can operate a pc and know how to use Word and Excel, then you get additional office work. If I had to bet either at a mindless zombie that wants to kill or the average braindead soldier with a badly maintained rifle, I'd bet on the zombie.
t. not a amerimutt mercenary, just a dude who lives in a country with compulsory military service.
10 regular untrained people with assault rifles could deal with hundreds of slow zombies easily. Especially since it takes hours and hours for you to turn
28 days later or WWZ would be more challenging albeit military would still prevail
10 regular untrained people with rifles that haven't been properly cleaned and maintained for years, will jam before they shoot 4 shots. You have no idea how common jamming is when we are talking about some piece of shit rifles that have been filled with dust, dirt and rust. Also, I think I understated how much of a moron the average soldier is. You have no idea how many times I've seen soldiers use their rifles as walking canes, baseball bats, or melee weapons to kill a rat or a frog. Now would you trust that rifle to kill 10 zombies without jamming?
It doesn't matter if the vast majority of the military aren't Rambo or capable of blowing a head up a mile away. Everyone has a different job. I'm never going to be running around the frontline blowing shit like some high speed low drag oper8r. I can fix a helicopter, fit three mounts and machine guns onto it so that a group of guys can get somewhere and kill shit though. That has a much bigger effect than simply sticking me somewhere with a gun. You only need a few guys with guns in reality, the most important part is having enough guys to fix, drive, carry, fly, communicate, cook, etc.
Even in an apocalypse scenario, most personnel will exist in a support capacity and be used for the humanitarian side. They'd be turning gyms on bases into temporary accomodation and executing anyone who's infected.
You talk about ideal scenarios. Army isn't an ideal scenario. If an emergency alarm goes off, I can't even say for sure if the dedicated emergency vehicles will be full on petrol, or if they are able to start in the first place. When shit hits the fan, your experience or knowledge doesn't matter, you will be given a gun and most probably you will be used as a "decorative" soldier, as in just stand in a place and look like a soldier.
>"decorative" soldier
You really think that if shit were to hit the fan that the military would use aircraft engineers as decorative soldiers? The reality is they'd throw all regulations out the window and we'd be working 18 hour shifts and saying frick health and safety to ensure 24/7 runtime of all aircraft. All of our vehicles, beyond those currently in maintenance, would be running because everything is rotated to ensure there's never undue wear and tear and that it's essentially being functionally tested through use. Stockpiles of fuel are kept and every vehicle has its current fuel state listed after every service or use. Weapons aren't a problem, there's always several people available at any time who have access to the keys for every armour and bomb dump.
The military would be useless if they couldn't respond to SHTF and there's a reason they get called up regularly for a tonne of different issues. Not enough airport security? Call the military and they'll do it. Serious flooding or severe weather? Call the military and they'll evacuate an area and put up protective barriers for buildings. Everyone complains about shit being broken in the military but it's usually never really broken. It's always just slightly outside of regulations or there's a rip in a fire blanket which has asbestos so it's a health risk.
The decorative soldier isn't put there to scare the zombies, it's to make the public think the army has everything under control, while the truth is they are probably more panicked than the public because they fear both the enemy, and the public's opinion in case they survive this. >put up protective barriers for buildings
Ah so your experience with the military is from Hollywood movies, got it.
No, my experience is from being in the military and wading through knee deep water to help put up sandbag walls in flood prone areas. Then if we're lucky getting a message on WhatsApp saying thanks for the hard work guys after being soaked from head to toe for the past 12 hours.
Honestly what do you think the military does when there's anything like a natural disaster? Just sit on the base and get the day off? No, you get given the shit job of being out in the shit weather.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Yes you moron, of course the military will be deployed once a year when a natural disaster strikes, they have to somehow justify their existence (and salaries, depending on the country). Manual labour after a tornado, a flood or a forest fire requires zero training or good physical condition, even the lankiest of the lanks can carry a sandbag. But that wasn't the point of my post about the lack of actual combat training soldiers get and how effective they would be in a zombie-like scenario. You just had to cry because you had to help civilians after a flood and you didn't get a "thank you" message.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>OH MY SCIENCE THE MILITARY IS HECKIN POWERLESS AGAINST THESE VERY SLOW MOVING SHAMBLING CORPSES THAT CANT DO ANYTHING!!!
redditrot
5 months ago
Anonymous
You claimed that my experience of the military was from Hollywood because I said that we put up barriers in the event of a flood. That is literally what you said in your last post and that's what I was replying to. You're genuinely just a brain-dead spastic who can't cope with the thought of being told that you're wrong. Grow up and get a bit of humility, you clearly need it. Au revoir, Black person.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>zero arguments >insults instead of arguments >then more insults >then says the Black person word for extra points
Exactly what I expected from a sub 80 IQ American that claimed he knows how army works.
It doesn't matter if the vast majority of the military aren't Rambo or capable of blowing a head up a mile away. Everyone has a different job. I'm never going to be running around the frontline blowing shit like some high speed low drag oper8r. I can fix a helicopter, fit three mounts and machine guns onto it so that a group of guys can get somewhere and kill shit though. That has a much bigger effect than simply sticking me somewhere with a gun. You only need a few guys with guns in reality, the most important part is having enough guys to fix, drive, carry, fly, communicate, cook, etc.
Even in an apocalypse scenario, most personnel will exist in a support capacity and be used for the humanitarian side. They'd be turning gyms on bases into temporary accomodation and executing anyone who's infected.
The OG Dawn of the Dead showed it best, the government couldn't contain it because people were being uncooperative, fighting back, and police and military were abandoning their jobs to take themselves and loved ones to safety.
In the country side they could deal with it a lot better.
criticize it all you want but the storybuilding in WD was kino
I loved that eventually the communities started to fall apart after all the technicians died off and they started to run out of guns/ammo, then gasoline
wish it could translate to a game well
I know they went to the CDC and it was overrun, but do they just never talk about any other cities in this show? Like every single military establishment is just gone now?
The problem is that the government and military is generally inept, they need time to adapt to a situation and in that time shit will hit the fan.
Take covid as an example (even though I think covid was bullshit) that was a virus that we had plenty of warning about, it was in China then another country, then another, then it moved from state to state for months, we had plenty of time to prepare and we still shit the bed.
Now let's assume the zombie virus works like in the movies, it's sudden and global that means on day one you have 200,000 zombies across the globe (8,000 in the United States alone) the government and military will not be expecting it or react fast enough
Day two comes, there's 200,000 more globally and another 8,000 in the US and half the zombies from yesterday have infected people so now there's an extra 100,000 globally and an extra 4,000 in the US being the two day total up to 500,000 worldwide and 20,000 in the US.
If the government doesn't get it's shit together until day five (and that's giving them more credit than they deserve) the numbers will be in the high millions and also keep in mind that when shit does hit the fan our leaders and most military personnel will abandon ship to be with their families.
tl'dr we'll be d.o.n.e fricked very quickly BUT I believe the government would catch up eventually after probably a billion+ deaths.
World war z the book put out a resealable reason for the initial collapse, governments around the globe trying to play down the seriousness of the issue until it got too bad and the military started fumbling away to contain the million strong horde that started to pop out across the country thanks due to glowies not wanting to botch a election season.
Everything else doesn't make sense.
So the enemy is high predictable herd of brain-dead cannibals that walk at crawling speeds, evacuate personnel and civilians to a safe zone and start mopping them out one sector at a time, which was exactly what the book led to.
Zombies were invented in a way that they were only a threat when outnumbering you and you are running out ammo.
Any attempt to make them realistically take over the world is moronic and should be ignored.
The reality is that there's any number of things that would destroy a brain or kill off zombies but all of these have to be ignored or any zombie scenario is shown to be moronic. You could get a guy in an air conditioned car with a few bottles of water to just herd the zombies somewhere hot without water and drive around until they drop from drying out. If you can't do that then just go somewhere cold for a little while and hypothermia gets them.
why do all zombie have the same choice in fashion?
like we get it, you're an undead thrall so you wear muted colors, but come on man, wear something that'll stick out for once! might even get some lady zombies knockin on your door
You'd have to start a fire to destroy them. Otherwise if the Whisperers find this pit you just gave them a massive army.
>well military soldier, all the tax payers are dead, so, uh, your never getting a paycheck ever again >what no dont desert with your service weapon and vehicle and high tail it to your survivng family members
the military would dissolve instantly, at best turning into basically split up warlord factions
Actually that would help the military stay together. Are you and your family safer if you desert and roam the country by yourselves, or if you bring your family to your base where there are plenty of other soldiers and weapons? There would still be some desertion but as long as the brass allowed soldiers to keep their immediate family around most would stay on duty.
>if the brass allowed
only if they went rogue. realistically, your CO would tell you you need to go defend politicians in washington dc, and you would kindly say no via magdumping 5.56 into his face. if your CO did say "frick everybody else, lets stick together", your likely going to end up duking it out with other splinter sections of the military that also said frick it, since your supplies are exactly the sort of supplies every other splinter section of the army is going to want. would you rather be fighting the army AND zombies AND civillians, or just frick off to some rural area and fight just zombies and maybe some civillians?
of course theres exceptions, if you happen to be the CO himself, and you get to lead your own renegade army, yeah id probably stick around. if i was just some foot soldier, id probably bounce.
In this scenario the most vital politicians and their families will be sent to some isolated bunker far from DC and deep underground. Any big city would turn into a death trap, makes no sense for the VIPs to shelter in DC. They'd have some troops at the bunker to guard them and operate the facility but not enough to empty out a whole base.
if its just in the united states, id be worried about china, russia, anyone who wants a slice of the pie to be taking advantage of this and invading. if its world wide, id be calling EVERYONE to the bunkers, because the entire economy will of completely collapsed and your gonna want to rebuild the vital parts ASAP, since no ones going to be delivering you any more gas, food or medical supplies. zombies sorta become the least important part if its on a wide scale.
if it was just say, one or two states the infection takes over, then sure, just bunkering up with a few soldiers hanging around.
also depends on what flavor of zombies really.
If in a magic scenario it only hit the US and the entire world started blockading the US no one would be dumb enough to invade. Quite the opposite would likely happen were other countries drop aid to civies and watch the boarders
5 months ago
Anonymous
If would literally be like COVID, intented by greedy corporate Americans, released by the filthy incompetent Chinese who would lie about it and it would get all over the world because of government greed in putting trade first and in libtard stupidity in open borders and allowing benefit migrants to spread it all over the world. We'd be absolutely fricked.
5 months ago
Anonymous
It got all over the world because morons dosnt cooperate for MUH FREED OM AND RELIGIONS!
Peope still dong get it that masks stop YOU from shitting all over others when you fricking cough!
5 months ago
Anonymous
Any society with a high concentration of guns or low population density would be fine. Really everyone but India/SEA/China would be fine. Even south american shitholes would be liberated by cartels in a week. If covid was skin contact only and had such obvious physical symptoms people would start just killing infected individuals very VERY quickly
5 months ago
Anonymous
If you've ever read the day by day armageddon series it touches on Europe being completely fricked because no one has guns. (Without any major spoilers the US government goes full moron and nukes all major cities as a contentment measure).
5 months ago
Anonymous
It is eaxtremly easy to make armor and weapons ANYWHERE if you have at least 40iq
5 months ago
Anonymous
Probably if you know what you're doing and you don't have a government insanely obsessed with prohibiting that knowledge and needed equipment. You could rape babies and set them on fire afterwards in the UK and you'd get less of a sentence than you would downloading a pdf of anarchists cookbook or anything similar
5 months ago
Anonymous
>one guy in the know shows his buddy how to not die >suddenly everyone within 3 km knows how to not die moderately effectively >civilization saved
Not everyone needs to know. Just 1:1000
5 months ago
Anonymous
Bongistani police just arrested somebody for their modded copy of Skyrim
5 months ago
Anonymous
>believing the most obvious larp of the 20s
Maybe zombies would be a problem
5 months ago
Anonymous
Had to look that one up, guy had made nude mod for kids in the game, which ffs spend that time arresting people for making real child porn.
>invade >get shot at by the locals AND get you guys infected for literally no gain >best case you conquer a zombie wasteland
5 months ago
Anonymous
china/russia's already a dystopian hell hole, im not sure they are gonna really notice the difference capturing a wasteland. anyways, your not there for the land really. take fort knox and the gold. steal all the materials, ships, vehicles, yadda yadda. send your political dissidents and criminals to do the work
5 months ago
Anonymous
>trying to extract anything that isn't on the coast
Literally a nightmare and suicide. If ONE thing would rally Americans regardless of race religion or creed it would be an invading foreign power
5 months ago
Anonymous
okay. but we are talking about a zombie scenario that covers the entire united states and is in the progress of dismantling society.
nobody is going to chain themselves to anything with zombies walking around just because the government said so
well you cant stay in my safe zone, then, later sk8r. this is what you need to wear to stay in my walls. of course, youd use carabiners that attach at your belt line so you can attach and remove in half a second. its not intended to hinder you while alive, just dead
5 months ago
Anonymous
>okay. but we are talking about a zombie scenario that covers the entire united states and is in the progress of dismantling society.
You either know nothing about the US or you are barely intelligent enough to manipulate a keyboard
5 months ago
Anonymous
>You either know nothing about the US or you are barely intelligent enough to manipulate a keyboard
or i was around when the pandemic started. a good chunk of people thought it was a bioweapon from china, and what did we do? shoot each other over toilet paper, anon.
5 months ago
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>we
Leave me out of it city Black person. The only thing that changed in my area is the government gave us assloads of money for nothing and better internet
5 months ago
Anonymous
great. i hope those city Black folk keep delivering tankers of gasoline to you and shipping all your food in for ya. good luck.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>He thinks gas comes from cities
Regardless we won't feed you. Sounds like a fair trade. Enjoy your food deserts
5 months ago
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>keep delivering tankers of gasoline to you and shipping all your food in for ya
are you moronic?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Citygays think they are important. Literally nothing essential comes out of cities because everything essential requires land to make. Is the world better with them? Of course services are nice. Are they "essential"? Lol no
For some reason the only piece of zombie related media I’ve ever seen that isn’t the standard ‘shambling corpses take over the entire world and defeat entire militaries because frick you’ is Dead Rising, wherein the military actually has the situation contained and cleans it up in a few days. Granted, in game the entire deal is that there’s an underlying conspiracy behind the out real that the military is related to that you need to figure out but still
yeh in DR the zombies arent a threat at all and usually cleaned up fast when the military shows up but there responsible for the virus anyway and were using it on third world small villages for testing
>those sprinter zombies are no joke.
No sprinter zombies are a joke. Dead flesh that has unlimited energy and more speed and agility than Usain Bolt? Get that homosexual shit outta here LOL
28 days/months arent dead. They are just really mad. its like their brains turn off everything else except anger and murder.
They do actually die if they are left alone long enough, like 4-5 days when the normal body would also die.
The thing about the 28 zombies is that its transferred via air/direct mucus contact. Like getting their blood or spit in your mouth, in your eye, possibly your nose, or in a cut. They dont have to bite.
Shit like WWZ has the military running out of ammo which is butt fricking moronic. The US has hundreds of billions of rounds of small arms fire and god knows how many tank shells, bombs, artillery, mortars, whatever. To clear out a city of a million zombies would be nothing. Your average soldier at rest is 100% accurate at 300 yards. Not to mention they would be getting pounded by artillery from 10 miles out. You wouldn't even need head shots, they would just be turning into mist.
And that's just the military. Civilians would wreck shit themselves. People hoarding 5.56 would finally get their pay day.
yeah, zombies have never been a believable threat. TWD is a soap opera with a zombie backdrop. That's why women love it >let's talk about our feelings for an hour
Norman Reedus is considered the peak of masculinity because sometimes he does thing without talking it over with everyone around him.
>that scene where daryl visits his grandfather's grave
he didn't say a single fricking thing, any other character would've held a long ass monologue, which is why daryl is one of the best characters besides bob
walking dead specifically? everyones fricked because the virus is actually airborne and lays dormant until death, meaning even if you wiped out every current zombie it only takes a mass death event to start again.
other series? its more about supply lines breaking down, the sheer number of them, etc
for all its problems, twd actually had the best solution to this. compare to the only other zombie films i've seen (shaun of the dead where the military eventually arrives and just wipes them all out, and 28 days later where they find a safe place to hide until they all just steve to death) the only way of "solving" the zombie problem in twd is to have a complete totalitarian government where everyone is monitored 24/7 and everyone is confined into cells to prevent a possible outbreak
>create military super base >spend time slowly expanding and killing zombies >anyone who wants to live at the base has to have their teeth grinded down or removed so they can't bite if they die unexpectedly >exclusively eat soft foods
Easy
Can't wait to get my teeth destroyed with no anesthetic by some guy named Gary who won the title of "town dentist" in a game of rock paper scissors even though his previous job was pumping gas and then starving to death when the only thing to eat is the meat of deers and wild dogs that we catch that I can't chew, partially cause I have no teeth and partially because I have a raging infection that's slowly spreading from my gums to my brain.
How did someone who directed such based kino as Watchmen and 300 direct such embarassing turds as MoS and Sucker Punch? And that was before his daughter an hero'd so that's not the excuse.
I watched that recently. It was okay for a trashy zombie. Don't know why it's even a remake, it barely has anything to do with the original aside from character names.
i used to get mad at how unrealistic it'd be for humanity to collapse at the hands of zombies, but now i just come up with increasingly stupid ways that humans could take on zombies. they're so weak and dumb and slow and harmless that fricking anything works. >handguns, semiautomatic rifles, machine guns, artillery, air strikes
don't even need em lol, save it for hordes 100k+ strong >set up thick wooden stakes poking outwards, zombies will voluntarily impale themselves on them. horde members from the back will only push the front zombies further into the stakes >run them over with tanks >make killdozers, run them over with that >use excavators and just wildly swing them around, zombies get bludgeoned in half >dig holes, fill up with water, zombies fall in and rot really quickly >dig hole, zombie falls in and gets stuck x 100 >hang a rod off a tree over a cliffside with fresh meat and a speaker to attract zombies (like a big fishing rod), zombies either walk off the cliff and splat while they follow the noise or get pushed off by zombies behind them >set up a 15ft tall pole, put speaker/lights/meat on top, thousands of zombies gather, firebomb them >gather huge hordes by previous method, collapse buildings on top of them >spray zombies with fresh blood, they try and eat each other >breed a lot of flies/vultures, they eat the zombies >send out extermination teams that are essentially roman infantry in turtle formation, you're invincible vs zombie groups smaller than 1,000 >send out cleanup crew consisting of two people armed with axes/shovels/hammers/pickaxes/whatever and clothed in hazmat suits, you're now invincible against any zombie group of 10 or less >set up a collapsible pulley-operated bridge, lure zombies to the middle, collapse one side and laugh as they all fall to their deaths, pull rope to reset, kill zombies with hilariously little effort >elephant cavalry to lay waste to zombie hordes like the mumakil from lord of the rings
or just wait for 1 month lol
Almost every zombie movie is preceeded by a massive plague that kills off the majority of the population. Do you have any idea the manpower required to implement the stuff you've suggested? Your tank would be immobilized very quickly. You don't have the spare meat for large zombie traps. You don't have the supply chain to demolish buildings even if you have someone with the expertise. Personally, i would rather die than breed flies.
What about zombies that are basically one consciousness but that one consciousness is an ongoing Cinemaphile thread where everyone shitposts their way to total zombie victory
The best parts of I Am A Hero are the first two volumes, it then gets progressively shittier to the point where it actively feels hostile to the audience.
I still chuckle thinking about the Cinemaphile survival group living on a roof with a bunch of sex slaves, pretty realistic representation of this place. And yes the Japanese version of Cinemaphile posters are the same people
>be Cinemaphile schizo >friend with other Cinemaphile schizos >zombies >awww frick yea >call up the boys >take over a high rise >protection for seggs
It couldnt be more perfect honestly
>well military soldier, all the tax payers are dead, so, uh, your never getting a paycheck ever again >what no dont desert with your service weapon and vehicle and high tail it to your survivng family members
the military would dissolve instantly, at best turning into basically split up warlord factions
How do the cells in their body generate energy? If there's no vascular system functioning (no heartbeat) how are nutrients and oxygen transported to muscles in order for locomotion to occur? How do they move without a CNS connection from their bones / muscles to the spinal cord / brain? How can they move over complex terrain which requires significant brain coordination? How do their bodies not completely desiccate within a few days without water? I mean this alone would basically make them completely immobile within a few days because all of that water in their body would evaporate and dry them out so fast without any input, they would essentially become mummified.
Speaking of which, if their tissue is dead, how does it not begin rotting / breaking down from bacteria / fungi, etc. on the skin within a few days? their tissues would literally be falling off / rotting to the fricking bone.
>100s of zombies shambling around loudly moaning and slamming their heads into walls >main character knocks over a bottle of scotch >all zombies within 3 city blocks are alerted and swarm the origin of the noise
why dont they ever attack the other loud shambling zombies?
They clearly use scent to differentiate between other walkers and humans. You see it in S1 when survivors cover themselves in walker guts and are invisible to the walkers, then it rains and washes off the scent.
Insects and bacteria would quickly eliminate the problem.
The original show was set in Georgia in the summer. The meat would turn to rotting goo within weeks. Insects would land and just start eating them as they shuffle around. They don't feel pain and would simply ignore the legions of insects eating them until there isn't sufficient muscle to move the corpse. Buzzards and vultures would eat whatever was left.
Zombies are such a stupid concept, especially if the show exclusively has a material conception of the universe (which they always do, it's some disease or virus or similar).
I just don't fricking buy that the US military can't beat zombies.
A loud speaker on a high, reinforced pole will round up every zombie in X radius, then you just mince the mass with various artillery. Rinse and repeat. Ground troops then go in and mop up
TWD had two unique things that made their zombies more dangerous than other slow, non-special zombies >everyone in the world is infected and turns when they die unless their brain is destroyed, meaning places like hospitals and retirement homes turn into hot spots and walkers aren't confined to one area that can be quarantined >fatal car crashes, suicides or people randomly dying in their sleep would also sprinkle more outbreaks all over the place, the government/military wouldn't have the resources to respond to all of them >fictional zombies never existed in the TWD universe so they had no idea what the frick was going on at first and there was some moralgayging about how they're still humans who can be cured >IRL if zombies showed up Americans would immediately form armed posses to hunt them down and they would know you have to go for their head
>fatal car crashes, suicides or people randomly dying in their sleep would also sprinkle more outbreaks all over the place, the government/military wouldn't have the resources to respond to all of them
its a pretty easy fix, just incredibly annoying. you just mandate everyone chains themself to something. going to bed? chain around your ankle and the bed leg. working all day in the kitchen? around the neck to some hook in the roof so youve got reasonable mobility. then as you move location to location, you just swap attachment points. zombies cant figure out padlocks, so if you die, your restricted to a limited area and easy to deal with.
that deals with MOST of them except suicides. youd just be down to dealing with those who died in scenarios they cant be secured, like out hunting for game.
just good strong wire and some harness and a shitload of attachment points installed everywhere. think like jessies confinement in breaking bad in the nazi meth lab, but voluntary.
That works once you reach the post-apocalypse rebuilding stage, but when shit was first hitting the fan nobody knew what to do. Rick's group didn't even know everyone was infected until the end of S1 when they went to the CDC and that was a few months after the outbreak began. For large settlements like the Commonwealth if they could get something like Fitbits that monitor heart rates and require everybody to wear one that would work. You could set them to go off like an alarm whenever somebody flatlines so anyone in the area knows somebody just died.
yeah its just the easiest stop gap solution, the fastest/easiest thing you could set up. really, if you had the materials and time, just make every single doorway/path be "zombie proof". always swing shut by themselves, have a door handle a zombie cant figure out, have a window/peephole on every one. you die anywhere, your just trapped in that area, and people can see in/out
What about random killings? What about school shootings, you kill a couple of kids, they each bite a couple of kids. Are the military going to firebomb the school? What about Chiraq, a basketball game goes the wrong way and overnight you've got a dozen zombie homies walking around biting other homies
This is the biggest joke about le zombies and why it is a city Black person problem. Any 2 story house is safe. 95% of houses are safe by merely getting on top of your roof and plinking for 10 minutes.
Zombie apocalypse shows and movies are fun but moronic, especially settings where long periods of time have past. There should be no zombies alive anywhere that gets below freezing for chunks of the year
>read world >random spook coughs in papa new guinea >24 hours a week coverage of breaking news >kino >zombies conquer the world because soldiers decide to go home
every time
Anon, you should know by now that it only takes one of these frickers to sneak up silently on one soldier from behind and bite him for the whole formation to go to shit.
>Guy gets bit and starts screaming >All the other soldiers turns around and looks at screaming guy >Now another guy who was looking at screaming guy also gets bit and starts screaming
After covid and the government shutdowns, I'm sure if zombies were a thing there would still be people denying it and some would be getting bitten on camera on purpose to show themselves putting colgate toothpaste or some shit in the wound on facebook to market their DIY medicine. Zombies would kill so many morons. Some of my best friends have no idea how to hook a generator up beyond a single outlet cable or how to even fix things and I know they would be dead in a week.
This is under the assumption that people will believe what they see on the news. If a zombie outbreak happens, would you believe it? Most people aren't going to see this shit on liveleak or secretive telegram accounts; they're going to see this shit on cnn and fox until it's at their doorstep.
>13 seasons + 4 spinoffs series all having multiple series
*seasons
Only 11 seasons for the original series.
>only
With a capital O
>Watch season one
>They dress up like zombies
Absolutely dropped.
I've only played the "game"
Does any person who dies also become one?
Yes, this was a plot point Rick knew throughout the first season. When he tells his gang they all act distraught but that doesn't make any sense to me. If you died of natural causes what does it matter that you'll turn? I honestly don't understand the emphasis that was put on this plot point.
because they don't actually know if the consciousness will still be there. That's why most of them opt to just blow their brains out before turning
because the zombies look like suffering people who aren't in control of their bodies. even if the consciousness isn't actually there, it still leave that impression
Bc if your with anyone you can never really be “safe”. Your sleeping in your hideout or something and the person next to you dies in there sleep they can just eat your ass or bite you then your fricked
This is the answer.
The problem isn't the consciousness or suffering of the zombies, it's that anyone who's *currently* alive and within the circle of safety can become a zombie and jeopardize the group's safety. There's a reason the show is called 'walking dead'. It's not just the zombies themselves.
>'walking dead'. It's not just the zombies themselves.
kino
Because of the kino “We ARE the walking dead” line from the comic
because then if old dale died of old age at night he'll just start eating the other soon to be zombies now, meaning even if you barricade yourself everyone is still a potential zombie
The military can't do shit against beings that have nothing to lose and can multiply easily
>Multiply
Damn zombies have sex?
Bites
Une bite mean a dick in french
Pink mist anon. That's what remains of a body if an artillery grenade explodes at its feet.
>artillery grenade
Jesus Christ anon
He's probably Russian. Granata means either grenade or shell/explosive
>Dump thousands of rounds into a horde
>They still keep coming, you run out of ammo eventually
>Every time one of your guys dies, they get another member
Artillery mostly kills you by blowing your limbs off or shockwaves, neither of which kill a zombie, slowing it down and making your job harder as you have to go and clear out a bunch of crawlers
If you blow their limbs off the zombies are effectively neutralized. They can lay there and wait for the mop up team to come and deliver the coup de grace
the world war z book talks about how zombies with missing limbs are much shittier to deal with because you want them standing up in the open so you see whem from a mile away when they walk towards you, and you can take the headshot from a safe distance.
a crawler with no legs grabbing you in tall grass or debris is much scarier
I liked the book when I was 12 but obviously if you're using the same shit Israel is dropping on Gaza there isn't going to be any muscle tissue left on the bones to crawl.
The book can say whatever the frick it wante, it's really not that hard for a trainee military to shoot prone, limbless zombies
> what's that, a limbless zombie torso crawling awkwardly like a worm towards me at a speed of 20meters/Hour? Woe is me, humanity is truly doomed..
>shockwaves
>don't kill
This is the most moronic idea to come out of zombie scenarios. The idea that whacking a zombie in the head with a plank of wood or a bat is somehow more lethal than detonating high explosive at point blank is absurd. The shockwave from a high explosive will liquify your entire body because the pressure is so extreme it's like being put inside a hydraulic press. Frick, it doesn't even take a high explosive or a significant quantity to cause serious damage. If you were holding a .50 calibre round and it went off in your hand, you would lose all of your fingers and probably your hand too. That's not even a high explosive, that's just a propellant and in small quantities. Even in a bomb disposal suit, an artillery shell can turn you into fricking soup.
If you want to see how moronic it is then look at RAF Fauld. An underground munitions dump that exploded because a worker used a metal tool which caused a spark. It created a massive crater and the shockwave destroyed and damaged buildings that were several miles away and that was underground inside a mine.
>a worker used a metal tool which caused a spark
WAS HE OK?
Just a flesh wound.
of course he was, not like he got hit by a baseball bat or anything.
Shockwaves are a concussive force. If a bat to the head can kill a zombie, a bomb will too
moronic world war z reader
>They still keep coming, you run out of ammo eventually
I don't think you realize just how much ammo exists you fricking moron. The US military alone has somewhere between half a trillion and a trillion rounds of small arms ammo. Hell the CIVILIAN population of the US has enough to mow down the hoard
quintessential 95iq media-brained post
>Get into tank
>Lure horde to an open field using a big speaker or something
>Crush them
You can do this and get rid of a billion zombies easily using a small fraction of the fuel you would waste deploying a whole army, helicopters and other useless shit
>get into tank
>get distress call over the radio
>your buddies need paramedics
>go to help
>get ambushed by zombies
That’s a whole other class of zombie in RotLD. The way that chemical works pretty much guarantees human extinction.
You're going to run out of grenades before zombies run out of zombies
literally just wear biker gear + gloves + helmet and get some sharp ass spear and you can kill hundreds of slow walking zombies
human teeth cant chew through leather
zombies conveniently develop superhuman strength don't you know!
The real threat is being crushed by a crowd.
>multiply easily
They have to bite people to multiply, while being a lot slower than the living. Not exactly easy.
Pic related should handle a few hundred. A well equipped platoon of soldiers could deal with a hundred thousand.
>They have to bite people to multiply
No, they multiply by people inevitably dying. If Grandma dies in her sleep she zombifies and comes to bite you in your sleep. Would you be wearing your biker armor then?
Also for perspective that's basically 150k new zombies, daily
If you're going by Night of the Living Dead rules it's still fairly easy. Just don't sleep in the same room as old or sick people.
Why not?
Realistically I know I'd get bored and start doing dangerous shit. This will get me killed long before the zombies.
Why listen to anal c**t?
>last words: watch this
unmistakably based
Gazans are losing right now though
Just like the Taliban lost in Afghanistan, right?
yonkers
So zombies are Black folk?
Because it means there's no hope.
I'm with this guy
only a small percentage of modern armies are comprised of infantry/combat roles and once the logistics and resupply chain breaks down their effectiveness is going to plummet.
Combined with the fact that zombies are in close quarters scenarios with civilians I can see things going to shit really quickly
Speaking of zombies
>wake up tired
>barely time for breakfast
>head off to work, 1 hour in transit
>work all day
>head back home, another hour in transit
>too tired/late to do anything
>go to bed
>repeat
I haven't had the time or energy to do laundry in like 3 months, how the FRICK do they expect me to balance all that shit?
Find a job that's closer or take the hit and move closer to your job for a higher living expense. If you work 5 days a week that's 10 hours of simply commuting. Not worth it, anon.
It's more like 1.5 hours, so 3 a day, 15 hours a week doing nothing.
Audiobooks are your friend.
And yet here you are shitposting on Cinemaphile as though we were your teenage angst diary. Log off and sort your fricking life out or at least do the laundry you whiny pussy.
you could have done loundry instead of making that post. stop the bullshit.
Try eating and sleeping properly. Laundry takes about 5 minutes worth of actual work with the machine doing everything else for you.
How full of yourself do you have to be to post this unprompted?
>I haven't had the time or energy to do laundry in like 3 months
How badly do you smell? I bet you don't even shower to save time.
>I haven't had the time or energy to do laundry in like 3 months
literally me for this entire winter so far, barely had the energy to workout, gained weight, and dont even have much interest in doing my usual hobbies. not even my government paid stims are helping half the days. i thought seasonal depression was a meme before now
>work/life balance
ah yes, the american dream.
My commute is like 30 minutes each way and I'm already thinking that's too much. I couldn't do an hour, frick that.
'muh virus' zombies are so tired and gay, if your zombies weren't raised from the dead by witchcraft or turned into superhuman monsters by space magic your zombie show is de facto unpatriotic
Based.
The only reason virus zombies exist is because morons actually find the idea more plausible than magic zombies.
tfw no voodoo zombie slave kino. They're all usually just mindless animals who want to eat humans, but only enough to kill them, and leave the victim with enough muscle mass to become a zombie themselves.
Even in hungry zombie kinos why don't they ever eat a person fully, so they're just a skeleton?
> why don't they ever eat a person fully, so they're just a skeleton?
Because skeletons are 2spooky
This. Magic is the best reason for zombies existing, muh virus is so overdone. Give me do old school b-movie voodoo bullshit every day.
I'd watch a movie where all the homosexual jerk off zombie apocalypse fantasies go out the window because it turns out corpses animated by the souls of the damned don't care about le zombie rules.
What was with the zombie explosion of zombie media in the early 2010s?
Suits are uncreative and chase fads, when one zombie thing got popular (28 Days Later maybe) it meant that money would get tossed at other zombie things until they stopped making money. There was a bit of a vampire fad in the late 90s through the 2000s that started because of Interview With the Vampire and Buffy, and after Gladiator there were a bunch of other history themed action movies like Troy.
Cheap, all you need is people with a little makeup and dirty clothes
28 Days Later and Left 4 Dead were really influential on kickstarting the whole fad.
preparation for the opiate and now tranq epidemic which turns psycho drug addicts into crumpled rotting zombies.
My brother was just talking to me about how many tranq users with necrotic flesh he's had to see at his ER the past few weeks and how it's growing larger and larger. Fentynal would just kill you but tranq just eats your body forever and it sounds like a living hell.
I'd like to see a movie about a bunch of rednecks hunting zombies like the end of Night of the Living Dead.
/thread, and cast them. Just some good old boys having the time of their life saving humanity from the undead hordes.
>Make a blockade at the stairs
>gg no re
Seriously though it's stupid how most zombie media has the survivors on ground floor most of the time.
realistically you would have a place where you destroy the stairs and use a ladder. Also spears to kill the walkers. And naturally lots of riding bikes
>spears
This. So few zombie shows recognize the importance of spears and a shield
>destroy the stairs and use a ladder
>get hurt and exhausted during scavenge run
>gg
My sister and her friends is a zombie always on they phone
Speaking of zombies, who else is having trouble waking up this Monday morning? Grrrgh just let me stay in bed!
Drink more cum that'll get you moving.
it's Black worship day you honky
Even resident evil 2 makes more sense stupidly due to the t-virus transmitting through other animals.
In the case of human only infection the only people who will get caught are those prone to mass hysteria who rush the supermarket the moment someone tells them toilet paper supplies are running low.
We didn't need them anyway.
Out of all things, RE has some stuff about the zombie outbreak that kinda make sense. Like how zombies are just failed byproducts of the T-virus, and even in 2 it's the G-virus that's the real shit that will ruin everything if it gets out.
>Monday mornings, ugh... am I right fellow job havers???
>not having the day off for dead Black person day
Sucks to be you, anon.
military training + remote medieval fort with water access = easy main operating base you can conduct genocide from. the biggest issue would be making sure nobody inside is infected
>some dude dies in his sleep
>everyone inside wakes up as a zombie
>lock door before you sleep
wow that was hard!!
Rotating shifts of night guards looking over the sleeping would fix this pretty easily with a relatively low chance of failure
Someone will always become complacent and get bitten after months of the same thing. The people are not super soldiers, just regular people forced into the situation. And besides, if they didn't there will be no story.
Sure people will get complacent. But complacency on fire watch (and I call it fire watch because the US Army already has people perform this form of night guard duty in basic fricking training and it is called fire watch) means you and the person you are with both take a shit at the same time, or one of you takes a nap while the other stays awake during your two hour guard duty shift.
It doesn't mean no one on guard duty ever notices anything for the week it would take for someone to get sick and die.
>means you and the person you are with both take a shit at the same time
have a night watch and a force everyone to cuff themselves to a metal pipe or something when they sleep
>another group attacks at night
>everyone is already cuffed
If they are alive they can uncuff themselves with their keys
If they are zombies they will not be able to use their keys
Honestly the same effect could be had by just putting people in a room that locks from the inside with a latch lock you need to jump and manipulate to open. A human will unlock it no problem a zombie will just stand around and moan.
I've visited this castle. Pretty cool place.
>slowly walking is stronk
The bongs knew
I now want to see slow moving zombies vs slow moving army. It would be a good battle.
But enough about Russians
melee is the most dangerous class in modern combat
Your fault is that you think everyone in the army is some kind of well trained man that's at his top physical and mental efficiency. 99% of the ones that are in the army don't know how to clean their rifles, hit a target at 100 meters or run a km without fainting. Most consider themselves lucky if they even do some target practice once a year. The daily routine of a soldier is work as a security guard for 8 hours a day where you pretend you are looking for intruders, and if you are among the "smart" ones that can operate a pc and know how to use Word and Excel, then you get additional office work. If I had to bet either at a mindless zombie that wants to kill or the average braindead soldier with a badly maintained rifle, I'd bet on the zombie.
t. not a amerimutt mercenary, just a dude who lives in a country with compulsory military service.
10 regular untrained people with assault rifles could deal with hundreds of slow zombies easily. Especially since it takes hours and hours for you to turn
28 days later or WWZ would be more challenging albeit military would still prevail
10 regular untrained people with rifles that haven't been properly cleaned and maintained for years, will jam before they shoot 4 shots. You have no idea how common jamming is when we are talking about some piece of shit rifles that have been filled with dust, dirt and rust. Also, I think I understated how much of a moron the average soldier is. You have no idea how many times I've seen soldiers use their rifles as walking canes, baseball bats, or melee weapons to kill a rat or a frog. Now would you trust that rifle to kill 10 zombies without jamming?
You talk about ideal scenarios. Army isn't an ideal scenario. If an emergency alarm goes off, I can't even say for sure if the dedicated emergency vehicles will be full on petrol, or if they are able to start in the first place. When shit hits the fan, your experience or knowledge doesn't matter, you will be given a gun and most probably you will be used as a "decorative" soldier, as in just stand in a place and look like a soldier.
>"decorative" soldier
You really think that if shit were to hit the fan that the military would use aircraft engineers as decorative soldiers? The reality is they'd throw all regulations out the window and we'd be working 18 hour shifts and saying frick health and safety to ensure 24/7 runtime of all aircraft. All of our vehicles, beyond those currently in maintenance, would be running because everything is rotated to ensure there's never undue wear and tear and that it's essentially being functionally tested through use. Stockpiles of fuel are kept and every vehicle has its current fuel state listed after every service or use. Weapons aren't a problem, there's always several people available at any time who have access to the keys for every armour and bomb dump.
The military would be useless if they couldn't respond to SHTF and there's a reason they get called up regularly for a tonne of different issues. Not enough airport security? Call the military and they'll do it. Serious flooding or severe weather? Call the military and they'll evacuate an area and put up protective barriers for buildings. Everyone complains about shit being broken in the military but it's usually never really broken. It's always just slightly outside of regulations or there's a rip in a fire blanket which has asbestos so it's a health risk.
The decorative soldier isn't put there to scare the zombies, it's to make the public think the army has everything under control, while the truth is they are probably more panicked than the public because they fear both the enemy, and the public's opinion in case they survive this.
>put up protective barriers for buildings
Ah so your experience with the military is from Hollywood movies, got it.
Not that anon, but you know nothing about how a modern military functions. That other anon's description is much more accurate.
No, my experience is from being in the military and wading through knee deep water to help put up sandbag walls in flood prone areas. Then if we're lucky getting a message on WhatsApp saying thanks for the hard work guys after being soaked from head to toe for the past 12 hours.
Honestly what do you think the military does when there's anything like a natural disaster? Just sit on the base and get the day off? No, you get given the shit job of being out in the shit weather.
Yes you moron, of course the military will be deployed once a year when a natural disaster strikes, they have to somehow justify their existence (and salaries, depending on the country). Manual labour after a tornado, a flood or a forest fire requires zero training or good physical condition, even the lankiest of the lanks can carry a sandbag. But that wasn't the point of my post about the lack of actual combat training soldiers get and how effective they would be in a zombie-like scenario. You just had to cry because you had to help civilians after a flood and you didn't get a "thank you" message.
>OH MY SCIENCE THE MILITARY IS HECKIN POWERLESS AGAINST THESE VERY SLOW MOVING SHAMBLING CORPSES THAT CANT DO ANYTHING!!!
redditrot
You claimed that my experience of the military was from Hollywood because I said that we put up barriers in the event of a flood. That is literally what you said in your last post and that's what I was replying to. You're genuinely just a brain-dead spastic who can't cope with the thought of being told that you're wrong. Grow up and get a bit of humility, you clearly need it. Au revoir, Black person.
>zero arguments
>insults instead of arguments
>then more insults
>then says the Black person word for extra points
Exactly what I expected from a sub 80 IQ American that claimed he knows how army works.
I'm not American. Go ahead keep guessing.
It doesn't matter if the vast majority of the military aren't Rambo or capable of blowing a head up a mile away. Everyone has a different job. I'm never going to be running around the frontline blowing shit like some high speed low drag oper8r. I can fix a helicopter, fit three mounts and machine guns onto it so that a group of guys can get somewhere and kill shit though. That has a much bigger effect than simply sticking me somewhere with a gun. You only need a few guys with guns in reality, the most important part is having enough guys to fix, drive, carry, fly, communicate, cook, etc.
Even in an apocalypse scenario, most personnel will exist in a support capacity and be used for the humanitarian side. They'd be turning gyms on bases into temporary accomodation and executing anyone who's infected.
The OG Dawn of the Dead showed it best, the government couldn't contain it because people were being uncooperative, fighting back, and police and military were abandoning their jobs to take themselves and loved ones to safety.
In the country side they could deal with it a lot better.
Hit them with Napalm then roll your tanks or other heavy armor over them. Fricking easy. End of the week no fricking zombies.
I shat my pants ten minutes ago. Not on purpose, it just kind of happened
Oops, wrong thread
What was the RIGHT thread on Cinemaphile?
They get picked up on the wind. You can't defend against that.
criticize it all you want but the storybuilding in WD was kino
I loved that eventually the communities started to fall apart after all the technicians died off and they started to run out of guns/ammo, then gasoline
wish it could translate to a game well
Zombies literally exist
Rabies infects your nervous system and pushes you to violently attack everything to spread it until your body gives out.
Bronze Age people survived it
Wouldn't the army just park up one of those big machine guns in Rambo 4 and cut them to ribbons?
I know they went to the CDC and it was overrun, but do they just never talk about any other cities in this show? Like every single military establishment is just gone now?
Wrap yourself in plastic with breath holes. Pour lube on yourself. Can’t be bitten and if you miraculously are, no contact from zombie teeth.
i swear this series only goes on because the main characters are fricking stupid and the audience that watches the show is just as stupid
The problem is that the government and military is generally inept, they need time to adapt to a situation and in that time shit will hit the fan.
Take covid as an example (even though I think covid was bullshit) that was a virus that we had plenty of warning about, it was in China then another country, then another, then it moved from state to state for months, we had plenty of time to prepare and we still shit the bed.
Now let's assume the zombie virus works like in the movies, it's sudden and global that means on day one you have 200,000 zombies across the globe (8,000 in the United States alone) the government and military will not be expecting it or react fast enough
Day two comes, there's 200,000 more globally and another 8,000 in the US and half the zombies from yesterday have infected people so now there's an extra 100,000 globally and an extra 4,000 in the US being the two day total up to 500,000 worldwide and 20,000 in the US.
If the government doesn't get it's shit together until day five (and that's giving them more credit than they deserve) the numbers will be in the high millions and also keep in mind that when shit does hit the fan our leaders and most military personnel will abandon ship to be with their families.
tl'dr we'll be d.o.n.e fricked very quickly BUT I believe the government would catch up eventually after probably a billion+ deaths.
if the military was allowed to shoot and burn covidians to death it would've been over in a week
World war z the book put out a resealable reason for the initial collapse, governments around the globe trying to play down the seriousness of the issue until it got too bad and the military started fumbling away to contain the million strong horde that started to pop out across the country thanks due to glowies not wanting to botch a election season.
Everything else doesn't make sense.
So the enemy is high predictable herd of brain-dead cannibals that walk at crawling speeds, evacuate personnel and civilians to a safe zone and start mopping them out one sector at a time, which was exactly what the book led to.
Quantity is a quality of its own.
Most of the damage was probably caused by psycho healthy humans.
Zombies were invented in a way that they were only a threat when outnumbering you and you are running out ammo.
Any attempt to make them realistically take over the world is moronic and should be ignored.
wouldn't winter kill off all the zombies? I mean, the brain freezing would destroy it
The reality is that there's any number of things that would destroy a brain or kill off zombies but all of these have to be ignored or any zombie scenario is shown to be moronic. You could get a guy in an air conditioned car with a few bottles of water to just herd the zombies somewhere hot without water and drive around until they drop from drying out. If you can't do that then just go somewhere cold for a little while and hypothermia gets them.
The show mostly takes place in Georgia, which has mild winters.
why do all zombie have the same choice in fashion?
like we get it, you're an undead thrall so you wear muted colors, but come on man, wear something that'll stick out for once! might even get some lady zombies knockin on your door
Only poor people become zombies.
>get a straight sword to slash zombies with
>get a riot shield
>win
what now Black folk?
>find or dig a big pit
>suspend a siren over it
>turn it on
boom, every zombie in a huge radius comes over and falls in and can't get out
You'd have to start a fire to destroy them. Otherwise if the Whisperers find this pit you just gave them a massive army.
Actually that would help the military stay together. Are you and your family safer if you desert and roam the country by yourselves, or if you bring your family to your base where there are plenty of other soldiers and weapons? There would still be some desertion but as long as the brass allowed soldiers to keep their immediate family around most would stay on duty.
>if the brass allowed
only if they went rogue. realistically, your CO would tell you you need to go defend politicians in washington dc, and you would kindly say no via magdumping 5.56 into his face. if your CO did say "frick everybody else, lets stick together", your likely going to end up duking it out with other splinter sections of the military that also said frick it, since your supplies are exactly the sort of supplies every other splinter section of the army is going to want. would you rather be fighting the army AND zombies AND civillians, or just frick off to some rural area and fight just zombies and maybe some civillians?
of course theres exceptions, if you happen to be the CO himself, and you get to lead your own renegade army, yeah id probably stick around. if i was just some foot soldier, id probably bounce.
In this scenario the most vital politicians and their families will be sent to some isolated bunker far from DC and deep underground. Any big city would turn into a death trap, makes no sense for the VIPs to shelter in DC. They'd have some troops at the bunker to guard them and operate the facility but not enough to empty out a whole base.
if its just in the united states, id be worried about china, russia, anyone who wants a slice of the pie to be taking advantage of this and invading. if its world wide, id be calling EVERYONE to the bunkers, because the entire economy will of completely collapsed and your gonna want to rebuild the vital parts ASAP, since no ones going to be delivering you any more gas, food or medical supplies. zombies sorta become the least important part if its on a wide scale.
if it was just say, one or two states the infection takes over, then sure, just bunkering up with a few soldiers hanging around.
also depends on what flavor of zombies really.
If in a magic scenario it only hit the US and the entire world started blockading the US no one would be dumb enough to invade. Quite the opposite would likely happen were other countries drop aid to civies and watch the boarders
If would literally be like COVID, intented by greedy corporate Americans, released by the filthy incompetent Chinese who would lie about it and it would get all over the world because of government greed in putting trade first and in libtard stupidity in open borders and allowing benefit migrants to spread it all over the world. We'd be absolutely fricked.
It got all over the world because morons dosnt cooperate for MUH FREED OM AND RELIGIONS!
Peope still dong get it that masks stop YOU from shitting all over others when you fricking cough!
Any society with a high concentration of guns or low population density would be fine. Really everyone but India/SEA/China would be fine. Even south american shitholes would be liberated by cartels in a week. If covid was skin contact only and had such obvious physical symptoms people would start just killing infected individuals very VERY quickly
If you've ever read the day by day armageddon series it touches on Europe being completely fricked because no one has guns. (Without any major spoilers the US government goes full moron and nukes all major cities as a contentment measure).
It is eaxtremly easy to make armor and weapons ANYWHERE if you have at least 40iq
Probably if you know what you're doing and you don't have a government insanely obsessed with prohibiting that knowledge and needed equipment. You could rape babies and set them on fire afterwards in the UK and you'd get less of a sentence than you would downloading a pdf of anarchists cookbook or anything similar
>one guy in the know shows his buddy how to not die
>suddenly everyone within 3 km knows how to not die moderately effectively
>civilization saved
Not everyone needs to know. Just 1:1000
Bongistani police just arrested somebody for their modded copy of Skyrim
>believing the most obvious larp of the 20s
Maybe zombies would be a problem
Had to look that one up, guy had made nude mod for kids in the game, which ffs spend that time arresting people for making real child porn.
>invade
>get shot at by the locals AND get you guys infected for literally no gain
>best case you conquer a zombie wasteland
china/russia's already a dystopian hell hole, im not sure they are gonna really notice the difference capturing a wasteland. anyways, your not there for the land really. take fort knox and the gold. steal all the materials, ships, vehicles, yadda yadda. send your political dissidents and criminals to do the work
>trying to extract anything that isn't on the coast
Literally a nightmare and suicide. If ONE thing would rally Americans regardless of race religion or creed it would be an invading foreign power
okay. but we are talking about a zombie scenario that covers the entire united states and is in the progress of dismantling society.
well you cant stay in my safe zone, then, later sk8r. this is what you need to wear to stay in my walls. of course, youd use carabiners that attach at your belt line so you can attach and remove in half a second. its not intended to hinder you while alive, just dead
>okay. but we are talking about a zombie scenario that covers the entire united states and is in the progress of dismantling society.
You either know nothing about the US or you are barely intelligent enough to manipulate a keyboard
>You either know nothing about the US or you are barely intelligent enough to manipulate a keyboard
or i was around when the pandemic started. a good chunk of people thought it was a bioweapon from china, and what did we do? shoot each other over toilet paper, anon.
>we
Leave me out of it city Black person. The only thing that changed in my area is the government gave us assloads of money for nothing and better internet
great. i hope those city Black folk keep delivering tankers of gasoline to you and shipping all your food in for ya. good luck.
>He thinks gas comes from cities
Regardless we won't feed you. Sounds like a fair trade. Enjoy your food deserts
>keep delivering tankers of gasoline to you and shipping all your food in for ya
are you moronic?
Citygays think they are important. Literally nothing essential comes out of cities because everything essential requires land to make. Is the world better with them? Of course services are nice. Are they "essential"? Lol no
For some reason the only piece of zombie related media I’ve ever seen that isn’t the standard ‘shambling corpses take over the entire world and defeat entire militaries because frick you’ is Dead Rising, wherein the military actually has the situation contained and cleans it up in a few days. Granted, in game the entire deal is that there’s an underlying conspiracy behind the out real that the military is related to that you need to figure out but still
yeh in DR the zombies arent a threat at all and usually cleaned up fast when the military shows up but there responsible for the virus anyway and were using it on third world small villages for testing
28 days later had the most realistic scenario, those sprinter zombies are no joke.
>those sprinter zombies are no joke.
No sprinter zombies are a joke. Dead flesh that has unlimited energy and more speed and agility than Usain Bolt? Get that homosexual shit outta here LOL
28 day later zombies are not dead, theyre just paycho humans
And they would have died from hypovolemic shock from vomiting so much blood while sprinting non-stop within maybe 48-72 hours, tops.
>ripping off Crossed
Danny Boyle should be ashamed and embarrased.
28 days/months arent dead. They are just really mad. its like their brains turn off everything else except anger and murder.
They do actually die if they are left alone long enough, like 4-5 days when the normal body would also die.
The thing about the 28 zombies is that its transferred via air/direct mucus contact. Like getting their blood or spit in your mouth, in your eye, possibly your nose, or in a cut. They dont have to bite.
Shit like WWZ has the military running out of ammo which is butt fricking moronic. The US has hundreds of billions of rounds of small arms fire and god knows how many tank shells, bombs, artillery, mortars, whatever. To clear out a city of a million zombies would be nothing. Your average soldier at rest is 100% accurate at 300 yards. Not to mention they would be getting pounded by artillery from 10 miles out. You wouldn't even need head shots, they would just be turning into mist.
And that's just the military. Civilians would wreck shit themselves. People hoarding 5.56 would finally get their pay day.
Maybe not to 300 yds. Maybe 100 at best but your point still stands.
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should I keep watching ftwd?
I only made it past the first season, it kept me hooked
first episode of the second season was fricking boring, currently trying to make it through the second episode
yeah, zombies have never been a believable threat. TWD is a soap opera with a zombie backdrop. That's why women love it
>let's talk about our feelings for an hour
Norman Reedus is considered the peak of masculinity because sometimes he does thing without talking it over with everyone around him.
>that scene where daryl visits his grandfather's grave
he didn't say a single fricking thing, any other character would've held a long ass monologue, which is why daryl is one of the best characters besides bob
>he didn't say a single fricking thing
which is what no one did
walking dead specifically? everyones fricked because the virus is actually airborne and lays dormant until death, meaning even if you wiped out every current zombie it only takes a mass death event to start again.
other series? its more about supply lines breaking down, the sheer number of them, etc
this is why billionaires are building bunkers on islands
zombies can't walk underwater
>defeats you
for all its problems, twd actually had the best solution to this. compare to the only other zombie films i've seen (shaun of the dead where the military eventually arrives and just wipes them all out, and 28 days later where they find a safe place to hide until they all just steve to death) the only way of "solving" the zombie problem in twd is to have a complete totalitarian government where everyone is monitored 24/7 and everyone is confined into cells to prevent a possible outbreak
Shaun of the Dead was actually the most realistic take on the zombie apocalypse. What is a zombie going to do against a tank?
Zombie apocalypse only makes sense if it's airborne virus infecting like 90% of people.
>create military super base
>spend time slowly expanding and killing zombies
>anyone who wants to live at the base has to have their teeth grinded down or removed so they can't bite if they die unexpectedly
>exclusively eat soft foods
Easy
Can't wait to get my teeth destroyed with no anesthetic by some guy named Gary who won the title of "town dentist" in a game of rock paper scissors even though his previous job was pumping gas and then starving to death when the only thing to eat is the meat of deers and wild dogs that we catch that I can't chew, partially cause I have no teeth and partially because I have a raging infection that's slowly spreading from my gums to my brain.
anything is better than snyder zombies
you had one chance, anon, and you blew it
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Wasted! homosexual!
feels like a wasted get
How did someone who directed such based kino as Watchmen and 300 direct such embarassing turds as MoS and Sucker Punch? And that was before his daughter an hero'd so that's not the excuse.
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>if the military was allowed to shoot and burn covidians to death it would've been over in a w ACK MY HEART
>people actually liked DOTD 2004
well, that's news to me
I watched that recently. It was okay for a trashy zombie. Don't know why it's even a remake, it barely has anything to do with the original aside from character names.
Zombies that work are alien biomass zombies, dead space works and I am Hero works
Walking dead is moronic
Simple as
i used to get mad at how unrealistic it'd be for humanity to collapse at the hands of zombies, but now i just come up with increasingly stupid ways that humans could take on zombies. they're so weak and dumb and slow and harmless that fricking anything works.
>handguns, semiautomatic rifles, machine guns, artillery, air strikes
don't even need em lol, save it for hordes 100k+ strong
>set up thick wooden stakes poking outwards, zombies will voluntarily impale themselves on them. horde members from the back will only push the front zombies further into the stakes
>run them over with tanks
>make killdozers, run them over with that
>use excavators and just wildly swing them around, zombies get bludgeoned in half
>dig holes, fill up with water, zombies fall in and rot really quickly
>dig hole, zombie falls in and gets stuck x 100
>hang a rod off a tree over a cliffside with fresh meat and a speaker to attract zombies (like a big fishing rod), zombies either walk off the cliff and splat while they follow the noise or get pushed off by zombies behind them
>set up a 15ft tall pole, put speaker/lights/meat on top, thousands of zombies gather, firebomb them
>gather huge hordes by previous method, collapse buildings on top of them
>spray zombies with fresh blood, they try and eat each other
>breed a lot of flies/vultures, they eat the zombies
>send out extermination teams that are essentially roman infantry in turtle formation, you're invincible vs zombie groups smaller than 1,000
>send out cleanup crew consisting of two people armed with axes/shovels/hammers/pickaxes/whatever and clothed in hazmat suits, you're now invincible against any zombie group of 10 or less
>set up a collapsible pulley-operated bridge, lure zombies to the middle, collapse one side and laugh as they all fall to their deaths, pull rope to reset, kill zombies with hilariously little effort
>elephant cavalry to lay waste to zombie hordes like the mumakil from lord of the rings
or just wait for 1 month lol
Almost every zombie movie is preceeded by a massive plague that kills off the majority of the population. Do you have any idea the manpower required to implement the stuff you've suggested? Your tank would be immobilized very quickly. You don't have the spare meat for large zombie traps. You don't have the supply chain to demolish buildings even if you have someone with the expertise. Personally, i would rather die than breed flies.
What about zombies that are basically one consciousness but that one consciousness is an ongoing Cinemaphile thread where everyone shitposts their way to total zombie victory
The best parts of I Am A Hero are the first two volumes, it then gets progressively shittier to the point where it actively feels hostile to the audience.
The author just stopped giving a shit halfway through the manga and it's just him going through the motion before finally ending the damn thing.
I still chuckle thinking about the Cinemaphile survival group living on a roof with a bunch of sex slaves, pretty realistic representation of this place. And yes the Japanese version of Cinemaphile posters are the same people
>be Cinemaphile schizo
>friend with other Cinemaphile schizos
>zombies
>awww frick yea
>call up the boys
>take over a high rise
>protection for seggs
It couldnt be more perfect honestly
>well military soldier, all the tax payers are dead, so, uh, your never getting a paycheck ever again
>what no dont desert with your service weapon and vehicle and high tail it to your survivng family members
the military would dissolve instantly, at best turning into basically split up warlord factions
>a return to warrior-bureaucrat autocracy
finally civilization is healing, thank you zombros
>warriors
>using guns
guns make weak beta males powerful
i wish there was a zombie series that wasnt absolute dogshit
How do the cells in their body generate energy? If there's no vascular system functioning (no heartbeat) how are nutrients and oxygen transported to muscles in order for locomotion to occur? How do they move without a CNS connection from their bones / muscles to the spinal cord / brain? How can they move over complex terrain which requires significant brain coordination? How do their bodies not completely desiccate within a few days without water? I mean this alone would basically make them completely immobile within a few days because all of that water in their body would evaporate and dry them out so fast without any input, they would essentially become mummified.
Speaking of which, if their tissue is dead, how does it not begin rotting / breaking down from bacteria / fungi, etc. on the skin within a few days? their tissues would literally be falling off / rotting to the fricking bone.
You should ask the zombie chewing on your intestines. Im sure itll really make a difference
>100s of zombies shambling around loudly moaning and slamming their heads into walls
>main character knocks over a bottle of scotch
>all zombies within 3 city blocks are alerted and swarm the origin of the noise
why dont they ever attack the other loud shambling zombies?
They clearly use scent to differentiate between other walkers and humans. You see it in S1 when survivors cover themselves in walker guts and are invisible to the walkers, then it rains and washes off the scent.
so whats scent got to do with a bottle of scotch falling over
People went completely apeshit when the media said we were running out of toilet paper. Zombies would collapse society within a week.
wipeBlack folk lose again
Insects and bacteria would quickly eliminate the problem.
The original show was set in Georgia in the summer. The meat would turn to rotting goo within weeks. Insects would land and just start eating them as they shuffle around. They don't feel pain and would simply ignore the legions of insects eating them until there isn't sufficient muscle to move the corpse. Buzzards and vultures would eat whatever was left.
Zombies are such a stupid concept, especially if the show exclusively has a material conception of the universe (which they always do, it's some disease or virus or similar).
>muh realism
who the FRICK cares
>actually, they're not zombies, the rage virus just makes humans hyper aggressive
>enraged people that don't try to eat you but just beat you to death are zombies because..... they just are okay!!!
I just don't fricking buy that the US military can't beat zombies.
A loud speaker on a high, reinforced pole will round up every zombie in X radius, then you just mince the mass with various artillery. Rinse and repeat. Ground troops then go in and mop up
TWD had two unique things that made their zombies more dangerous than other slow, non-special zombies
>everyone in the world is infected and turns when they die unless their brain is destroyed, meaning places like hospitals and retirement homes turn into hot spots and walkers aren't confined to one area that can be quarantined
>fatal car crashes, suicides or people randomly dying in their sleep would also sprinkle more outbreaks all over the place, the government/military wouldn't have the resources to respond to all of them
>fictional zombies never existed in the TWD universe so they had no idea what the frick was going on at first and there was some moralgayging about how they're still humans who can be cured
>IRL if zombies showed up Americans would immediately form armed posses to hunt them down and they would know you have to go for their head
Objectively true.
IRL zombie shit would basically just be the end of night of the living dead (and the beginning of Dawn)
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>fatal car crashes, suicides or people randomly dying in their sleep would also sprinkle more outbreaks all over the place, the government/military wouldn't have the resources to respond to all of them
its a pretty easy fix, just incredibly annoying. you just mandate everyone chains themself to something. going to bed? chain around your ankle and the bed leg. working all day in the kitchen? around the neck to some hook in the roof so youve got reasonable mobility. then as you move location to location, you just swap attachment points. zombies cant figure out padlocks, so if you die, your restricted to a limited area and easy to deal with.
that deals with MOST of them except suicides. youd just be down to dealing with those who died in scenarios they cant be secured, like out hunting for game.
just good strong wire and some harness and a shitload of attachment points installed everywhere. think like jessies confinement in breaking bad in the nazi meth lab, but voluntary.
nobody is going to chain themselves to anything with zombies walking around just because the government said so
That works once you reach the post-apocalypse rebuilding stage, but when shit was first hitting the fan nobody knew what to do. Rick's group didn't even know everyone was infected until the end of S1 when they went to the CDC and that was a few months after the outbreak began. For large settlements like the Commonwealth if they could get something like Fitbits that monitor heart rates and require everybody to wear one that would work. You could set them to go off like an alarm whenever somebody flatlines so anyone in the area knows somebody just died.
yeah its just the easiest stop gap solution, the fastest/easiest thing you could set up. really, if you had the materials and time, just make every single doorway/path be "zombie proof". always swing shut by themselves, have a door handle a zombie cant figure out, have a window/peephole on every one. you die anywhere, your just trapped in that area, and people can see in/out
What about random killings? What about school shootings, you kill a couple of kids, they each bite a couple of kids. Are the military going to firebomb the school? What about Chiraq, a basketball game goes the wrong way and overnight you've got a dozen zombie homies walking around biting other homies
there would be a quarantine instilled so no gatherings and so on you forgot covid already?
Lol. Cause blacks and their enablers totally followed that and there was nothing untoward that happened at all.
Then that shoit should be bombed im all hands for that
i could kill a zombie easy, shit i could probably kill everyone in this thread with my bare hands as i am mighty and powerful
>combined
But Earth's combined military BECOME the slow walkers.
>Rhodes did nothing wrong
bullshit he was totally wrong. that scientist was on the cusp of literally creating a subservient army.
those tanks with the chains on the front that they used to clear mines would absolutely frick up zombies
>they climb now?
everyone says this but then theyd be the ones getting killed in the first scene
Replace all stairs with ladders
Man thats smart
This is the biggest joke about le zombies and why it is a city Black person problem. Any 2 story house is safe. 95% of houses are safe by merely getting on top of your roof and plinking for 10 minutes.
Zombie apocalypse shows and movies are fun but moronic, especially settings where long periods of time have past. There should be no zombies alive anywhere that gets below freezing for chunks of the year
>read world
>random spook coughs in papa new guinea
>24 hours a week coverage of breaking news
>kino
>zombies conquer the world because soldiers decide to go home
every time
zombie bees could make people become zombies. Can the army take out swarms of zombie bees without any injury?
Anon, you should know by now that it only takes one of these frickers to sneak up silently on one soldier from behind and bite him for the whole formation to go to shit.
>Guy gets bit and starts screaming
>All the other soldiers turns around and looks at screaming guy
>Now another guy who was looking at screaming guy also gets bit and starts screaming
>seal team zombie assassinating and assimilating the military
Fund it
After covid and the government shutdowns, I'm sure if zombies were a thing there would still be people denying it and some would be getting bitten on camera on purpose to show themselves putting colgate toothpaste or some shit in the wound on facebook to market their DIY medicine. Zombies would kill so many morons. Some of my best friends have no idea how to hook a generator up beyond a single outlet cable or how to even fix things and I know they would be dead in a week.
an invisible virus isn't the same as something people can see with their eyes, moron
This is under the assumption that people will believe what they see on the news. If a zombie outbreak happens, would you believe it? Most people aren't going to see this shit on liveleak or secretive telegram accounts; they're going to see this shit on cnn and fox until it's at their doorstep.
no it's under the assumption that they would be everywhere for people to fricking see with their own eyes
wouldnt they just freeze in the winter or is all zombie media written by southern hicks
Yes. And in the summer they'd all be devoured by maggots and just rot away in a week.