I’m sorry anon but that type of vid was pretty common even 16 years ago. Time is a flat circle, what is funny today will be funny again ten years from now (both with “boomers” thinking it’s shit and “zoomers” thinking it’s funny). The cycle repeats, again and again with no stopping.
I was thinking the same thing then I saw the "14 years ago"
On the upside, we can at least be mad that garbage youtube poop line of "humor" has become mainline in zoomers.
this was already done by millenials, called youtube poop. That video is pretty bad though. There is better stuff like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZERfeh7n4Q
Lol the only thing I remember about this is a scene where a fairy gets like tortured and her wings get chopped off? It sort of scared me when I saw this as a kid
And the production company was huffing their own farts with the director/producer giving everyone fanciful titles in the credits and expecting this to be the next Star Wars.
>Can anyone explain what message you were supposed to take from this?
It's supposed to be about peace between the races. The reptile people are native American and African hybrids (wide noses, no hair, in tune with nature, mostly black voice actors) and the Fairy people are European colonizers. It's literally the point of the movie.
It's just a bland hero's journey story set across two groups fighting each other, and with bland animation with ugly art. It's right in that middle ground where they were trying, but it's so forgettable with hideous art, like why? It cost 40 million somehow. If this was some tv show it'd make more sense.
Please tell me every juicy detail about what this pencil neck rich kid thinks is racial reconciliation, how do they save the day and who’s the aggressor
There's a war/conflict between three sides, evil witch and her Orcs, the fairies, and the Reptile-Nogs. Hero is of the reptile nog faction, and fancies the fairy princess. So Luke Skywalker and Princess Leia and comic relief (voiced by funny man Chris Kattan!).
A big plot twist towards the end is that the Fairy general 2nd in command spared Delgo's life as a kid. The Fairy people were at war with the Reptile-Nogs, and between the burning and looting, a regular soldier looked the other way and let Delgo go. That's the big "reveal" for Delgo. The plot is about Orc-Witch trying to instigate another war between the Reptile-Nogs and the Fairy people, but they don't fall for it and defeat her. The end.
This is what the sheltered writer thinks: >If people could like, just stop fighting, and see each other as people, we could all get along.
Is this the shitty 2000's/2010's CGI animated movies thread?
Also, what was the one produced and/or written by George Lucas? I don't think it was this one but it looked similar. Like a 3D Fern Gully and it had an annoying black (as in African-American) midget or a troll or something who was the annoying comic relief side character.
I'm somewhere in the credits. Not my proudest work but oddly endearing as it was near the start of my career.
Pretty sure you were talking about Delgo a few years back on Cinemaphile too
I've been lurking around various boards since W was president so you may have seen me post here before. Though I comment on them when I see them, I never start 'Delgo' threads which makes me curious who does and if I know them.
Not sure what he's up to now. As far as I now, Fathom never released another movie but he made a nice profit off his office building in Atlanta when the area became semi-trendy and more recently he sold off his web monkey business. His family owns a large art supply business in Texas, which is where "his" wealth came from. Maybe he's retired now that he's in his 50s.
>this is the man that’s going to take the world on a journey with his beautiful stories
Lmao
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Not sure what he's up to now. As far as I now, Fathom never released another movie but he made a nice profit off his office building in Atlanta when the area became semi-trendy and more recently he sold off his web monkey business. His family owns a large art supply business in Texas, which is where "his" wealth came from. Maybe he's retired now that he's in his 50s.
So Delgo was obviously supposed to be an Avatar-tier socially transformative new mythology and a revolutionary shared dream setting, so what was its wisdom? What are the journeys of this neo-ur-character Delgo showing us through the looking glass? What revelatory exodus are these symbols of the universal man and woman traveling, what CGI crystal or blue godray will we learn is the answer to peace and love between us? What, uh, gay attempt at inspiration are we dealing with here
Fun Fact: More people saw Conan O'Brien making fun of Delgo during his monologue, which was dubbed with dialogue about selling condos in Scottsdale, than actually saw the movie in theaters.
Actually what are some other examples of transformative fiction bombs by clueless rich kids? I feel like every idiot son of a movie producer thought they could just use computers to generate a dreamworld with no real life races, locations, or time periods, and that they could unite the world in the true meaning of love by, like, having a particle effect that represents God give their self-insert permission to love a woman, or something
You all make fun of him and yet he did something you will never do, you are technically below him in the totem pole by a significant margin. So why do you think you can speak about others who have achieved things? He has done something while you are butthurt haters on the internet.
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Because he used a ton of other people’s money to force a business into the ground and almost nobody even saw his movie, duh. This is not generative. It’s nice that he was able to go to offices and tell people what to do and feel important though
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>nooooooo you can't have a discussion about anything unless it's nothing but praise and admiration
Frick outta here.
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Yes when it comes to creative work made by visionaries who go against the grain, you have to admire that.
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He really went against the grain by not making a succesful Star Wars ripoff.
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>made by visionaries who go against the grain
it's completely derivative
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Just like Vivienne Medrano or John "Brianna Wu" Flynt, rich morons whose parents bankrolled their idiot ideas. Aspirational fricks like you are wienerroaches who suck dick
I just remember some anon going through this movie scene by scene in a thread near completely by himself just commentating on it. Weird shit.
How the frick do you dumb ass zoomers think that a Luc Besson movie belongs in this thread? You people don't know shit about filmmaking. That is a respected classic.
Frick you homosexual, I didn't comment on the movie but rather the fact that an anon was watching a movie, posting the scene he was watching, then typing out his thoughts in a thread almost completely by himself. For the whole movie. I find that weird and funny.
Delgo anon here, familiar with policeman Bob down on the third floor.
At one point we sent a cease and desist letter to Pixar for hiring away our animators.
It actually got a major theatrical release in thousands of theaters and only made less than a million dollars.
Initially it was going to be distributed by Twentieth Century Fox but once complete, they backed out. We used Freestyle, a pay-for-distribution company.
That expense ate up our entire advertising budget and more. The hope was that people who saw it would love it and through word of mouth, audiences would quickly build. That obviously did not happen and the vast majority of theaters dropped the movie after the Freestyle contract ended. IIRC, that contract was only for one week.
This video brought me great joy in high school and is the only thing I know about this movie besides it bombing hard:
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"Carl Dream" stole that from 'Raiders of the Lost Ark'
It's been maybe a decade since I've seen this, but I used to watch it at least once a year cause it was such a meme back then. It's a uniquely bad film. It's not a "so bad it's good" film, it's not even a "so bad it's shit" film. It's bad in a way that is simultaneously boring to watch, and interesting to analyze, because it's like the filmmakers set to systematically fail at every aspect of filmmaking.
Mark Adler was a rich kid who thought daddy's wealth meant he would be successful at anything.
Adler, being surrounded by parentheses, thought the hardware required to render the movie could be from the other company he owned in the same building (which he also owned). Web monkeys would do their web monkeying downstairs during the day, and at night those machines could be used by the animators to render the movie. Turned out he was off by a factor of 1000. It took time to build a real render farm and to get the investors to fund it. Even then, in order to keep costs down, a smaller render farm was built, resulting in rendering taking far longer.
It's been maybe a decade since I've seen this, but I used to watch it at least once a year cause it was such a meme back then. It's a uniquely bad film. It's not a "so bad it's good" film, it's not even a "so bad it's shit" film. It's bad in a way that is simultaneously boring to watch, and interesting to analyze, because it's like the filmmakers set to systematically fail at every aspect of filmmaking.
I mainly use this pirate streaming site, they're pretty good. Just make sure you turn your adblock on first because the site has really annoying ads if you don't block them.
https://fmoviesz.to/movie/delgo-2o4yl/1-1
If I'm making you want to watch it I'm doing a bad job of describing it. If you watch it you'll feel constantly annoyed and underwhelmed and not really understand why. It's not that the badness is incomprehensible, it's more that it does so many things wrong in a very bland, boring way that it all blends together into a slurry of shit that is more effort than it is worth to dissect for information. Hence why I did all my analysis of Delgo in the late 00's and early '10s as a college student with loads of free time.
It's not just writing I'm talking about, it's also editing, even sound mixing. I didn't exaggerate when I said every level of film making is bad in some way.
It's just a bland hero's journey story set across two groups fighting each other, and with bland animation with ugly art. It's right in that middle ground where they were trying, but it's so forgettable with hideous art, like why? It cost 40 million somehow. If this was some tv show it'd make more sense.
Yes, ‘Le Manège enchanté’ which was dubbed into English as ‘The Magic Roundabout’ and was probably responsible for millions of kids developing an interest in psychedelics.
>remember this shitty movie >look it up >the characters are actually looking back at villain in acknowledgement of the his presence and giving him dirty looks
I don't think I've ever seen a poster using the evil onlooker that has done this.
I love animated movies with a bunch of big name voice actors that bomb and are completely terrible, you can't blame an amateur production for their failure, it's just bad to the core.
>HaHaha the hivemind thinks the movie is BAD therefore it is BAD >only billionaire companies make GOOD movies. >I am definitely on the side of Elon Musk and Pixar, I definitely am against BAD things.
You as well as all redditors who embrace "So bad it's good culture" are mere insects who believe that the hivemind can shield you from your own failings. This is why you look for poorly reviewed movies to gang up on. You represent the sociopathic evils of capitalism.
Keep pretending that mocking artists who put their heart and soul in things but don't have the approval of your Disney gods represents some kind of failure, you are wasting your life trying to fit in because you think you found a socially acceptable target you are allowed to bully and hide behind because reddit agrees with you. >Throk think movie BAD >Throk don't like BAD THINGS! >GOOD THINGS GOOD! >Throk like... Disney and... Elon Musk... and... things tribe like. Throk is GOOD too. BAD things made by... other tribe, bad tribe, low caste tribe.
You are filth
Can't speak to the actual design decision but can tell you that the characters were originally bugs. The company moved slowly. After doing a couple of years of ground work, A Bug's Life and Antz were both released. Adler decided to scrap everything and start over.
I watched this with a friend when we were binging the bottom of IMDB list and we literally can't remember anything about it other than the annoying homosexual MC friend who never does anything useful in the whole story and the army general guy that looks like Darius from League (which by the way was the best character).
Still not sure if it's better or worse than Sir Billi.
So Delgo was obviously supposed to be an Avatar-tier socially transformative new mythology and a revolutionary shared dream setting, so what was its wisdom? What are the journeys of this neo-ur-character Delgo showing us through the looking glass? What revelatory exodus are these symbols of the universal man and woman traveling, what CGI crystal or blue godray will we learn is the answer to peace and love between us? What, uh, gay attempt at inspiration are we dealing with here
Fun Fact: More people saw Conan O'Brien making fun of Delgo during his monologue, which was dubbed with dialogue about selling condos in Scottsdale, than actually saw the movie in theaters.
>Fun Fact: More people saw Conan O'Brien making fun of Delgo during his monologue, which was dubbed with dialogue about selling condos in Scottsdale, than actually saw the movie in theaters.
At the time, it was the lowest grossing wide release movie ever, which ironically got it more press than the actual release. Curiosity from the coverage of the failure might have convinced some people to see it but by then its one week in theaters was up and only a handful of discount cinemas kept showing it.
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You all make fun of him and yet he did something you will never do, you are technically below him in the totem pole by a significant margin. So why do you think you can speak about others who have achieved things? He has done something while you are butthurt haters on the internet.
This sounds a lot like the template post Pud on Fricked Company would use each time a dot com failed.
Actually what are some other examples of transformative fiction bombs by clueless rich kids? I feel like every idiot son of a movie producer thought they could just use computers to generate a dreamworld with no real life races, locations, or time periods, and that they could unite the world in the true meaning of love by, like, having a particle effect that represents God give their self-insert permission to love a woman, or something
>high budget blockbuster movie directed by steven spielberg >uses shitty character designs that look like they came from straight to dvd cgi movies like delgo
spielberg is out of touch when he made this
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Yeah, Spielberg's been out of it for years and is just baffling. He's trying to push the envelope with cgi shit, which was never his thing. I think he's trying to compete with James Cameron?
I swear, if Spielberg just made a movie about some guy going on an adventure on a boat or something, with very little cgi, and it was fun and exciting, it'd be a hit. Make for like 20 million dollars.
homie what? >he just made a movie last year that had 10 oscar nominations. >"Spielberg has lost it guys he hasn't had a good movie since 1990"
Yeah, Spielberg's been out of it for years and is just baffling. He's trying to push the envelope with cgi shit, which was never his thing. I think he's trying to compete with James Cameron?
I swear, if Spielberg just made a movie about some guy going on an adventure on a boat or something, with very little cgi, and it was fun and exciting, it'd be a hit. Make for like 20 million dollars.
All the press seems to be from 2003-2004, and they initially planned to release it in 2004. The total silence means anyone who did read these articles utterly forgot about this film.
>”It’s Shrek meets Lord of the Rings” boasts Co-Director Mark F. Adler
It's actually Star Wars x Lord of the Rings. It's a string of cliches which would be tolerable if the film looked nice.
Atlanta Magazine did a cover story on it back in 2000. That it took until 2008 to get the movie out really doomed it. CGI had advanced so much over that time and it ended up looking like a video game cut scene instead of a cutting edge movie.
The main problem is the hideous art style and ugly ugly designs. It's ugly Reptile people for Christ stake! Just make pretty people and it's fine.
The cover excuse for taking so long is that the web monkey shop downstairs had its president die so Adler had to pay more attention to it. The actual reason is that they had no idea how long it would take to render an actual movie and how much that would cost. Funny thing is most of the lead voice talent came at a high price when they recorded their dialog but by the time the movie came out, most had faded and could have been had for much less (except for Anne Bancroft, as she was dead by the time Delgo was released).
I mean, they could have saved 99% of the VA budget just hiring people from the local theater company who'd do just as good a job. Then that money could have gone towards animation.
I still think Delgo would have worked better as a weekly tv show to build up interest over time.
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Adler at times was like Hammond in Jurassic Park with a "spared no expense" attitude for flashy things like voice talent but then would try to skimp on things like rendering hardware and animator salaries. They kept getting their talent poached by companies like Pixar. Finding replacement talent in Atlanta was difficult, even with SCAD literally down the street.
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Oh hilarious. Do you pay attention to video games by any chance? Japanese company FromSoft had some hit games in 2009 and 2011 following the exact opposite approach, as they hired British theater actors as voice actors. Then they had very few cutscenes and dialogue in the game, eschewing conventions at the time, and focused on a gameplay focused experience.
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Fromsoft didn’t even start animating characters talking outside cutscenes until relatively recently. They never thought it was important.
The cover excuse for taking so long is that the web monkey shop downstairs had its president die so Adler had to pay more attention to it. The actual reason is that they had no idea how long it would take to render an actual movie and how much that would cost. Funny thing is most of the lead voice talent came at a high price when they recorded their dialog but by the time the movie came out, most had faded and could have been had for much less (except for Anne Bancroft, as she was dead by the time Delgo was released).
The Atlanta article mentions a staff of 50 animators which seems like way way way too few people for a major motion picture. So they bit off more than they could chew, and it took them until 2008 to release it.
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Outsiders often look at a product, wonder why it costs so much, and think they could build it for far less. When they try, they discover lots of hidden gotcha issues they hadn't considered. It becomes an expensive lesson in hubris.
Atlanta Magazine did a cover story on it back in 2000. That it took until 2008 to get the movie out really doomed it. CGI had advanced so much over that time and it ended up looking like a video game cut scene instead of a cutting edge movie.
Still blows my mind this was released theatrically in 2008. It would have been a mediocre CGI movie in 1997. It's practically Reboot-tier animation and the delusional narcissist behind the project really saw fit to keep pushing through to the end. A sad tale of hubris for sure.
1997 is about when initial work started on it but the poor quality of the CGI in the final product was likely somewhat due to the investors and everyone else involved just wanting to finally get it pushed out the door after a decade for fricking around with it. Animated movies have had significant amounts of their footage redone before but here it sounds like they struggled through the technical aspects and were happy to be done with it and move on to other things.
Still blows my mind this was released theatrically in 2008. It would have been a mediocre CGI movie in 1997. It's practically Reboot-tier animation and the delusional narcissist behind the project really saw fit to keep pushing through to the end. A sad tale of hubris for sure.
It has this sub-standard straight to dvd look, but I found the backgrounds nice enough looking. The biggest problem is just the entire cast are ugly. The aestetics are hideous - the princess is supposed to be this gorgeous thing and she's this she-lizard with fairy wings and the hero race are Black person-Reptiles. They all look like creepy aliens.
It's funny that Avatar was the highest grossing movie at the time and Delgo the lowest as Fathom at one point said they were looking into suing Cameron for copying them. There are sites that compare the two and while the quality is vastly different, some of the concepts do appear to be similar enough to raise an eyebrow but not much more. Adler loved threatening to sue other companies but never went through with it.
>Fathom Studios, the Atlanta-based production company behind DELGO, was bombarded with emails as soon as the AVATAR trailer went live. A spokesperson for the studio said, "From what we have seen, we are amazed by the visual similarities between the two films and we are reviewing what legal options may be available to us."
>pic
Floating islands aren't exactly unique. But Avatar was horribly generic to anyone who was into videogames or even just fantasy in general, I think normies had just never seen anything other than a football game before. I remember people gushing over the floating islands but I immediately thought "Hey that looks just like the floating islands from the game Legend of Dragoon", and that came out in 2000.
>Reboot-tier animation and the delusional narcissist behind the project really saw fit to keep pushing through to the end. A sad tale of hubris for sure.
>Guys, I am the ENLIGHTENED PERSON whose consumption habits align with BILLIONAIRES like Disney, Pixar, Marvel. I don't like that poor person over there. I personally align with Elon Musk.
Daily reminder that not one of you in here could do better and that capitalism has made you into sociopaths. Watching hollywood movies does not make you hollywood.
How is it bad? It is just an early example of CGI cartoons. Their only mistake was releasing it in 2008 instead of 2001. The movie is about the level of saturday morning cartoons.
It's slightly better than saturday morning cartoons in terms of its animation.
Some people mentioned Luc Besson's animated film. If he didn't have all that PR and major agency power behind him, maybe it would be considered just as shit. You got to determine how much you are doing the bidding of Hollywood shitting on outsiders so that they can hold onto all the money.
>Watching hollywood movies does not make you hollywood.
tell that to the guy casting hollywood actors to voice his film while skimping on everything else
>can't belive I made an adult pay to watch this shit with me
now I feel bad for my parents
all those shitty kids' movies we went to see and they had to pretend they were as excited as little anon and had to pay for the privilege
>Guys look at this... poor person, who is following his dream making creative works of art by hand. He is not at all like Elon Musk, who I personally align with, so we must mock him relentlessly.
>they are doing stylized, avant garde artistic experiments.
making people disgusting looking is a really dumb thing to do. Kids don't like looking at ugly people - why do you think villains are made to be ugly - and feel less empathy and affection for creatures like that disgusting rodent.
I still have more respect for something like Delgo than for something like pic related. This was all style and zero substance. There is barely any storyline.
Why is it that Americans latched onto astro boy and speed racer? I kept seeing so many parodies of these shows in cartoons growing up but it was basically taking the piss out of a 1950s show. And then Hollywood made movies about them 60 years later.
Iron Giant was based on a book and the original climax was "The Iron Giant engages in a battle of endurance challenges against a space dragon the size of Australia to save the world"
ITT: Let's make fun of independent artists who poured their heart and soul into their work
>Meh, I'm not personally interested in that poor person by dunkin donuts. Elon Musk is more the sort of individual I identify with.
Yeah no fricking shit billionaires paying the top animators in the world money to do soulless high quality slop look better, than indie artists with no money who put their heart and soul in their work. Instead you should ask why you are such a sociopath that you choose to mock these people who are doing a better job than you can ever do.
You are still stuck on despereux or minimoys looking ugly, but you are looking at it from a 2024 point of view. No shit that they will not look like your spider man slop of today. Back then in the mid 2000s when they were released, they looked amazing because that was the style of the time popularized by things like Shrek.
no moron, they're objectively hideous. Look at Finding Nemo (2003). As a kid I fell in love with the cute fish and marvelled at the texturing of the coral and water. I get that they had a huge budget but it's not like technical limitations at the time meant things had to look ugly.
Shrek didn't have offensively hideous characters. Even Shrek himself wasn't that ugly, and Fiona was hot, Puss in Boots looked alright etc.
To nerf the milk wagons.
This shit is delibrately offensive looking. It's NOTHING to do with the budget or tech constraints they had.
no moron, they're objectively hideous. Look at Finding Nemo (2003). As a kid I fell in love with the cute fish and marvelled at the texturing of the coral and water. I get that they had a huge budget but it's not like technical limitations at the time meant things had to look ugly.
Shrek didn't have offensively hideous characters. Even Shrek himself wasn't that ugly, and Fiona was hot, Puss in Boots looked alright etc.
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This shit is delibrately offensive looking. It's NOTHING to do with the budget or tech constraints they had.
One example that shows that lower budget isn't an excuse for ugly designs: Bee Movie. It aged a lot worse than other DreamWorks movies of the decade (Shrek, which released six years prior, blows this movie out of the water), but still looks ok.
says a lot that everyone remembers Bee Movie, even though it sucked, but nobody remembers all these frick ugly monstrocities.
Did animators back then just not understand basic child psychology?
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you don't need money to give charecters round, doeful eyes, rounded proportionate faces and cute smiles.
I can't tell if you're trolling at this point
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Nah this homie was spittin
Because 2000s cg was ass so they decided to leaned into ugly if they wrote the characters to be humans or humanoids
Many factors >Shrek proved that low brow, non Pixar CG could make money >CG rapidly becoming cheaper >CG taking way less skill to make than traditional animation means cheaper outsourcing of projects >Disney ending 2D production pushed 3D as the future
>Adler had a Dreamworks-escque philosophy that the skills can be taught, but talent cannot; as such, he hired people with "vision" over those with technical ability
omg, we need to teach the Ion Storm debackle in business and art schools now. And at least some business skills in the art school classes too.
>John Romero breaks off from Id to form Ion Storm >meant to be a dream team of VISIONARIES >hires a bunch of modders >no one knows how to program or code an engine >figures he can just liscense the Quake engine from his old buddies >he does and they still have problems >sees Quake 2, and realizes it's outdated so ports it to Quake 2 engine >turns out this is very very hard and they have to remake the game >Daikatana is heavily delayed, costing over 22 million dollars >released and bombs
Ion Storm had a Dallas branch led by Romero - total clusterfrick. And an Austin branch led by Warren Spector. Romero was a frat boy given millions so he went nuts, and was an idiot. Spector unlike Romero was actually a GOOD project manager and led to Deus Ex.
>In a fashion similar to other dot com busts, the company spent lavishly on office decor and facilities for employees.[4] The corporate headquarters of Ion Storm were located in Suite 5400,[5] 22,000-square-foot (2,000 m2) of space in a penthouse suite on the 54th floor, the top floor, of the Chase Tower in Downtown Dallas. Ion Storm spent $2 million on the facility.[6] Lisa Chadderdon of Fast Company said that the penthouse location was "unusual".[7] For the first ten years after the construction of the JPMorgan Chase Tower, the penthouse location had been unleased.[7]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion_Storm
>john romero become a gas station cashier >american mcgee's sister went missing and he decided to go to exile in hong kong >John Carmack spent almost a decade of his life on vr only for facebooks divestiy quota teams making archiving his dreams impossible
anyone else from the og doom team that had a tragic live?
This is possibly the worst poster for a movie I have seen in my life
>Starring Mark Hamill >only 192 reviews on IMDB >Directed by a random American Jap
In a post apocalypse steampunk world where people all live on giant airships. They battle a gigantic robot demon that flies around and hunts the humans down. Its a fricking moronic anime plot but as a kid i found the main love interest a cute
No fricking way I've been looking for this thing forever, I only remembered the ending cause it stuck with me as beautiful or something
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ga411Q7Db/
It was better in my mind because it was the girl who delivered the "like angels" line instead of the other dude
>ugly chin incel >pan faced bug eyed chick with no figure >masked robot thing that has no appeal to children despite being (I assume) the protagonist >another ugly pan faced scowling girl >stupid looking blue moron >hedgehog on meth
yuck
There was a lot of good CGI at that point, as someone who actually was alive at the time, this kind of shit was never good. Ice Age came out in 2002, Shrek came out in 2001, A bugs Life came out years earlier, etc. Even Toy Story still looks decent and that was 1995 with what years of gap means.
No one at that time thought any of these c tier movies looked good or "decent for the time"
You're comparing Pixar Disney productions against a literal what movie made by literal who's on a budget 1/10th their size. As a kid i found it shiny and kinda cool
>on a budget 1/10th their size.
why do people keep saying this shit!! Sure, the textures were never going to be as perfect but you don't need money to make cute characters. They CHOSE to make them ugly. That's why nobody cares about those films and they bombed. Not because of the budget. Because they are not cute
Can say anything you want about it but it wasnt "impressive", to me and everyone I knew they always looked like cheap knockoffs, and the general public clearly agreed.
Also that movie had a budget of 12 mil while Toy Story was almost 10 years earlier and was 30m, not even close to 10x
Can say anything you want about it but it wasnt "impressive", to me and everyone I knew they always looked like cheap knockoffs, and the general public clearly agreed.
Also that movie had a budget of 12 mil while Toy Story was almost 10 years earlier and was 30m, not even close to 10x
>lets make a film for kids with characters kids will find scary/evil/repulsive
when I was 3 I had a catapillar toy from bugs life. I loved it. Not because the bug had 'high budget textures' or because of the film plot, but because it was frickin adorable
how can you have 12 million dollars and not understand this?
Since none of you guys know shit about animation it's because when you make normal looking people, it becomes unwatchable due to the uncanny valley effect. (see: The Polar Express and Beowulf). Bug movies are the only thing getting praise here , but when the same restriction is applied to people, you go, "derrrrr the older generations just weren't enlightened like the way we were with spider man miles morales, look at all the crap they made, they were so stupid! We zoomers know everything!" No. They were working with the limitations they had at the time. You aren't special just because you are standing on the shoulders of giants.
After watching Delgo all I could think was "why the frick did anyone think this was a good idea". Then the concept art rolled with the credits and I was like "oh that's why". The concept art look like concepts for an actually good movie.
This video brought me great joy in high school and is the only thing I know about this movie besides it bombing hard:
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Fricking hell, I'm so glad I'm not a zoomer.
>WOW WHERE IT REVERSED BACK AND FORTH OVER AND OVER
>SO FUNNY!
>Mein Anon…that video was made 14 years ago
thought it was a recent trend. I was in high school 20 years ago though.
I’m sorry anon but that type of vid was pretty common even 16 years ago. Time is a flat circle, what is funny today will be funny again ten years from now (both with “boomers” thinking it’s shit and “zoomers” thinking it’s funny). The cycle repeats, again and again with no stopping.
I was thinking the same thing then I saw the "14 years ago"
On the upside, we can at least be mad that garbage youtube poop line of "humor" has become mainline in zoomers.
this was already done by millenials, called youtube poop. That video is pretty bad though. There is better stuff like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZERfeh7n4Q
From 2009. This was almost definitely made by a millenial
I had my volume turned up, you c**t.
bad edit
Horrible example of youtube poop
This is probably the worst YouTube poop I have ever seen and I actually quite enjoy YouTube poop
I thought I was the only one
Less than 10k views after 14 years supports this opinion. Not a single joke or gag was created.
Forbidden kino. I think this release was direct-to-huge-box-of-DVDs-on-clearance-at-bestbuy
It actually got a major theatrical release in thousands of theaters and only made less than a million dollars.
Lol the only thing I remember about this is a scene where a fairy gets like tortured and her wings get chopped off? It sort of scared me when I saw this as a kid
And the production company was huffing their own farts with the director/producer giving everyone fanciful titles in the credits and expecting this to be the next Star Wars.
Can anyone explain what message you were supposed to take from this?
Racism is ok sometimes.
>Can anyone explain what message you were supposed to take from this?
It's supposed to be about peace between the races. The reptile people are native American and African hybrids (wide noses, no hair, in tune with nature, mostly black voice actors) and the Fairy people are European colonizers. It's literally the point of the movie.
Please tell me every juicy detail about what this pencil neck rich kid thinks is racial reconciliation, how do they save the day and who’s the aggressor
There's a war/conflict between three sides, evil witch and her Orcs, the fairies, and the Reptile-Nogs. Hero is of the reptile nog faction, and fancies the fairy princess. So Luke Skywalker and Princess Leia and comic relief (voiced by funny man Chris Kattan!).
A big plot twist towards the end is that the Fairy general 2nd in command spared Delgo's life as a kid. The Fairy people were at war with the Reptile-Nogs, and between the burning and looting, a regular soldier looked the other way and let Delgo go. That's the big "reveal" for Delgo. The plot is about Orc-Witch trying to instigate another war between the Reptile-Nogs and the Fairy people, but they don't fall for it and defeat her. The end.
This is what the sheltered writer thinks:
>If people could like, just stop fighting, and see each other as people, we could all get along.
2000s gave us a bunch of CG fever dreams
the Cinemaphile equivalent of all those shitty mascot platformers in the 90s.
there is that one guy on Cinemaphile that makes minimoy threads just to spam clips form the movies
Yeah he's awesome, he should do it on /wsg/ or /gif/ though so they have audio, and then I could download them all and stitch them together.
Is this the shitty 2000's/2010's CGI animated movies thread?
Also, what was the one produced and/or written by George Lucas? I don't think it was this one but it looked similar. Like a 3D Fern Gully and it had an annoying black (as in African-American) midget or a troll or something who was the annoying comic relief side character.
Pretty sure you were talking about Delgo a few years back on Cinemaphile too
I've been lurking around various boards since W was president so you may have seen me post here before. Though I comment on them when I see them, I never start 'Delgo' threads which makes me curious who does and if I know them.
I'm more worried about Mars Need Moms posters.
What does Adler do now anyway? Laughed out of show business?
Not sure what he's up to now. As far as I now, Fathom never released another movie but he made a nice profit off his office building in Atlanta when the area became semi-trendy and more recently he sold off his web monkey business. His family owns a large art supply business in Texas, which is where "his" wealth came from. Maybe he's retired now that he's in his 50s.
>this is the man that’s going to take the world on a journey with his beautiful stories
Lmao
You all make fun of him and yet he did something you will never do, you are technically below him in the totem pole by a significant margin. So why do you think you can speak about others who have achieved things? He has done something while you are butthurt haters on the internet.
Because he used a ton of other people’s money to force a business into the ground and almost nobody even saw his movie, duh. This is not generative. It’s nice that he was able to go to offices and tell people what to do and feel important though
>nooooooo you can't have a discussion about anything unless it's nothing but praise and admiration
Frick outta here.
Yes when it comes to creative work made by visionaries who go against the grain, you have to admire that.
He really went against the grain by not making a succesful Star Wars ripoff.
>made by visionaries who go against the grain
it's completely derivative
Just like Vivienne Medrano or John "Brianna Wu" Flynt, rich morons whose parents bankrolled their idiot ideas. Aspirational fricks like you are wienerroaches who suck dick
he looks demonic
If he gained 70 pounds he could play Judge Holden
>Mars Need Moms
That was actually a good film, but it had a horrible title. Moms are uncool in general and kids are driven by fomo.
The alien chick had an amazing ass
Why do people hate Beowulf so much? I remember enjoying it and all the breasts it had in it.
I like Beowulf but having it be fully CG seems completely unnecessary
Are those quints, Patrick?
WOAH NELLY
Strange Magic
>Strange Magic
>2015
Oh shit, it's not even that old.
Brapppppp
I miss the 2000
Now somebody with talent make his eyes pop out of his head. We could have a brand new booba reaction for all of Cinemaphile
he ponderin
BRAPPA
Oh shit is that Miquella
vaguely pornographic aesthetic
Sexo elf girl
Luc Besson's animation debut
The pedo guy?
>Madonna rapes a shota the movie
Wtf even was this
This is a trilogy. First movie is the best one, by far.
I just remember some anon going through this movie scene by scene in a thread near completely by himself just commentating on it. Weird shit.
How the frick do you dumb ass zoomers think that a Luc Besson movie belongs in this thread? You people don't know shit about filmmaking. That is a respected classic.
Frick you homosexual, I didn't comment on the movie but rather the fact that an anon was watching a movie, posting the scene he was watching, then typing out his thoughts in a thread almost completely by himself. For the whole movie. I find that weird and funny.
To think the makers of this were so high on their farts that they thought they could build a new Pixar/Dreamworks out of it.
Delgo anon here, familiar with policeman Bob down on the third floor.
At one point we sent a cease and desist letter to Pixar for hiring away our animators.
Initially it was going to be distributed by Twentieth Century Fox but once complete, they backed out. We used Freestyle, a pay-for-distribution company.
That expense ate up our entire advertising budget and more. The hope was that people who saw it would love it and through word of mouth, audiences would quickly build. That obviously did not happen and the vast majority of theaters dropped the movie after the Freestyle contract ended. IIRC, that contract was only for one week.
"Carl Dream" stole that from 'Raiders of the Lost Ark'
Mark Adler was a rich kid who thought daddy's wealth meant he would be successful at anything.
Bro go to bed already
(were you an animator, a manager or something?)
I'm somewhere in the credits. Not my proudest work but oddly endearing as it was near the start of my career.
What was your title?
>Digital puppeteer
Lmao, bit of anti-climax from all those other gay faux-grandiose titles.
>FANTASTICAN
>Rufus Blow
No way that's real.
>Quantum Demiurge
what did he even do?
tortured the staff in all timelines simultaneously
nice
>Sublime Patron of Dreams
lmao I forgot about that shit
Election test
They were working on it for years when Antz came out in 1998? And didn't release Delgo until 2008? WTF?
Adler, being surrounded by parentheses, thought the hardware required to render the movie could be from the other company he owned in the same building (which he also owned). Web monkeys would do their web monkeying downstairs during the day, and at night those machines could be used by the animators to render the movie. Turned out he was off by a factor of 1000. It took time to build a real render farm and to get the investors to fund it. Even then, in order to keep costs down, a smaller render farm was built, resulting in rendering taking far longer.
Why even lie about this? You're lying about Delgo of all things.
He’s probably not lying, it’s not unlikely at all that a guy in that industry posts here
Nope, I've seen too many LARPers here. I'd say it's just some gay pretending.
Yeah I know that’s how you feel, paranoid
It's been maybe a decade since I've seen this, but I used to watch it at least once a year cause it was such a meme back then. It's a uniquely bad film. It's not a "so bad it's good" film, it's not even a "so bad it's shit" film. It's bad in a way that is simultaneously boring to watch, and interesting to analyze, because it's like the filmmakers set to systematically fail at every aspect of filmmaking.
that's actually a pretty solid rec for me. is it streaming anywhere?
I mainly use this pirate streaming site, they're pretty good. Just make sure you turn your adblock on first because the site has really annoying ads if you don't block them.
https://fmoviesz.to/movie/delgo-2o4yl/1-1
If I'm making you want to watch it I'm doing a bad job of describing it. If you watch it you'll feel constantly annoyed and underwhelmed and not really understand why. It's not that the badness is incomprehensible, it's more that it does so many things wrong in a very bland, boring way that it all blends together into a slurry of shit that is more effort than it is worth to dissect for information. Hence why I did all my analysis of Delgo in the late 00's and early '10s as a college student with loads of free time.
It's not just writing I'm talking about, it's also editing, even sound mixing. I didn't exaggerate when I said every level of film making is bad in some way.
It's just a bland hero's journey story set across two groups fighting each other, and with bland animation with ugly art. It's right in that middle ground where they were trying, but it's so forgettable with hideous art, like why? It cost 40 million somehow. If this was some tv show it'd make more sense.
>be doogal
>get hairy
Wasn't this some cherished European children's character that just had a completely dogshit dubbing for americans?
Harvey Weinstein was responsible for this dub
He had a hard-on for butchering imports, even movies in fricking English. His dick saved us from so many more shit flicks.
And they had Butch Hartman write the dub.
Yes. The original French version of the movie is shit too, just for different reasons.
Yes, ‘Le Manège enchanté’ which was dubbed into English as ‘The Magic Roundabout’ and was probably responsible for millions of kids developing an interest in psychedelics.
>remember this shitty movie
>look it up
>the characters are actually looking back at villain in acknowledgement of the his presence and giving him dirty looks
I don't think I've ever seen a poster using the evil onlooker that has done this.
I know this was shit, but with voice actors like that you'd think it could have been a memorable sharp witted edgy comedy.
Doogal have you been drinking?
This is one of the worst films I've ever seen.
I love animated movies with a bunch of big name voice actors that bomb and are completely terrible, you can't blame an amateur production for their failure, it's just bad to the core.
>HaHaha the hivemind thinks the movie is BAD therefore it is BAD
>only billionaire companies make GOOD movies.
>I am definitely on the side of Elon Musk and Pixar, I definitely am against BAD things.
You as well as all redditors who embrace "So bad it's good culture" are mere insects who believe that the hivemind can shield you from your own failings. This is why you look for poorly reviewed movies to gang up on. You represent the sociopathic evils of capitalism.
stop posting schizo
Keep pretending that mocking artists who put their heart and soul in things but don't have the approval of your Disney gods represents some kind of failure, you are wasting your life trying to fit in because you think you found a socially acceptable target you are allowed to bully and hide behind because reddit agrees with you.
>Throk think movie BAD
>Throk don't like BAD THINGS!
>GOOD THINGS GOOD!
>Throk like... Disney and... Elon Musk... and... things tribe like. Throk is GOOD too. BAD things made by... other tribe, bad tribe, low caste tribe.
You are filth
take meds
>get in here
I never left.
Based. I remember the old Cinemaphile Delgo stream threads where we'd all watch it and kek in the chat.
How does racemixing work in this setting?
Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad
Uncanny resemblance.
lmao
Oh shit
Why does he have teeth in his ear?
Can't speak to the actual design decision but can tell you that the characters were originally bugs. The company moved slowly. After doing a couple of years of ground work, A Bug's Life and Antz were both released. Adler decided to scrap everything and start over.
I watched this with a friend when we were binging the bottom of IMDB list and we literally can't remember anything about it other than the annoying homosexual MC friend who never does anything useful in the whole story and the army general guy that looks like Darius from League (which by the way was the best character).
Still not sure if it's better or worse than Sir Billi.
I love how they made the female delgo a white girl so people could maybe be attracted to her
Adler went bald at a young age and it is thought this is why Delgo was bald. Princess Kyla looks suspiciously a lot like one of the other producers.
Ha, sounds about right. Delgo is such a bald pencil neck
Wasn't it some guy's life work?
What was thast shitty Brazilian one?
So Delgo was obviously supposed to be an Avatar-tier socially transformative new mythology and a revolutionary shared dream setting, so what was its wisdom? What are the journeys of this neo-ur-character Delgo showing us through the looking glass? What revelatory exodus are these symbols of the universal man and woman traveling, what CGI crystal or blue godray will we learn is the answer to peace and love between us? What, uh, gay attempt at inspiration are we dealing with here
In the end, Delgo was an overgrown israeli kid laughing at his own jokes that were mostly poor copies of humor he saw elsewhere.
Does he find and hold a tiny blue light that represents his mother’s approval in his little metaphorically raceless hands
Fun Fact: More people saw Conan O'Brien making fun of Delgo during his monologue, which was dubbed with dialogue about selling condos in Scottsdale, than actually saw the movie in theaters.
>Fun Fact: More people saw Conan O'Brien making fun of Delgo during his monologue, which was dubbed with dialogue about selling condos in Scottsdale, than actually saw the movie in theaters.
Wait, O'Brien acknowledged it?
At the time, it was the lowest grossing wide release movie ever, which ironically got it more press than the actual release. Curiosity from the coverage of the failure might have convinced some people to see it but by then its one week in theaters was up and only a handful of discount cinemas kept showing it.
This sounds a lot like the template post Pud on Fricked Company would use each time a dot com failed.
Actually what are some other examples of transformative fiction bombs by clueless rich kids? I feel like every idiot son of a movie producer thought they could just use computers to generate a dreamworld with no real life races, locations, or time periods, and that they could unite the world in the true meaning of love by, like, having a particle effect that represents God give their self-insert permission to love a woman, or something
BASED KINO!!! I remember this movie. Twas truly kino.
>high budget blockbuster movie directed by steven spielberg
>uses shitty character designs that look like they came from straight to dvd cgi movies like delgo
spielberg is out of touch when he made this
Spielberg's been out of touch since the 2000's
homie what?
>he just made a movie last year that had 10 oscar nominations.
>"Spielberg has lost it guys he hasn't had a good movie since 1990"
The Feldermans is Spielbergo totally up his own ass. It's visually bland as well. Why would someone care about this?
Oscar bait shit usually has little culturally impact. It's the kind of legacy oscarbait shit that gets awards, not anything good.
Pretty cowardly too. He waited until both parents were dead to make a movie exposing how dysfunctional the family was.
>oscar nominations
lol. even oscar winners get forgotten because nobody cares.
Yeah, Spielberg's been out of it for years and is just baffling. He's trying to push the envelope with cgi shit, which was never his thing. I think he's trying to compete with James Cameron?
I swear, if Spielberg just made a movie about some guy going on an adventure on a boat or something, with very little cgi, and it was fun and exciting, it'd be a hit. Make for like 20 million dollars.
The Asian guy beat him to it.
>i was the subhuman cannibal that shit in the boat
wow great movie
It premiered on December 2008. Here's a March 2004 article.
https://animatedviews.com/2004/guess-the-voice-of-delgo-and-win-a-prize/
>Prizes include: Tickets to the Delgo movie premiere
Imagine winning the contest and then needing to wait over four years to make use of the tickets.
Aug 2003 article. USA Today was on the Delgo Hype Train and reported all the news and updates.
All the press seems to be from 2003-2004, and they initially planned to release it in 2004. The total silence means anyone who did read these articles utterly forgot about this film.
It's actually Star Wars x Lord of the Rings. It's a string of cliches which would be tolerable if the film looked nice.
The main problem is the hideous art style and ugly ugly designs. It's ugly Reptile people for Christ stake! Just make pretty people and it's fine.
I mean, they could have saved 99% of the VA budget just hiring people from the local theater company who'd do just as good a job. Then that money could have gone towards animation.
I still think Delgo would have worked better as a weekly tv show to build up interest over time.
Adler at times was like Hammond in Jurassic Park with a "spared no expense" attitude for flashy things like voice talent but then would try to skimp on things like rendering hardware and animator salaries. They kept getting their talent poached by companies like Pixar. Finding replacement talent in Atlanta was difficult, even with SCAD literally down the street.
Oh hilarious. Do you pay attention to video games by any chance? Japanese company FromSoft had some hit games in 2009 and 2011 following the exact opposite approach, as they hired British theater actors as voice actors. Then they had very few cutscenes and dialogue in the game, eschewing conventions at the time, and focused on a gameplay focused experience.
Fromsoft didn’t even start animating characters talking outside cutscenes until relatively recently. They never thought it was important.
The cover excuse for taking so long is that the web monkey shop downstairs had its president die so Adler had to pay more attention to it. The actual reason is that they had no idea how long it would take to render an actual movie and how much that would cost. Funny thing is most of the lead voice talent came at a high price when they recorded their dialog but by the time the movie came out, most had faded and could have been had for much less (except for Anne Bancroft, as she was dead by the time Delgo was released).
The Atlanta article mentions a staff of 50 animators which seems like way way way too few people for a major motion picture. So they bit off more than they could chew, and it took them until 2008 to release it.
Outsiders often look at a product, wonder why it costs so much, and think they could build it for far less. When they try, they discover lots of hidden gotcha issues they hadn't considered. It becomes an expensive lesson in hubris.
>It's ugly Reptile people for Christ stake!
I like how some of them are randomly butterflies.
>”It’s Shrek meets Lord of the Rings” boasts Co-Director Mark F. Adler
One of the most Hollywood sentences ever printed.
Atlanta Magazine did a cover story on it back in 2000. That it took until 2008 to get the movie out really doomed it. CGI had advanced so much over that time and it ended up looking like a video game cut scene instead of a cutting edge movie.
>its shrek meets the lord of the rings
>Eric Idle
Why is his involvement usually always a sign of a shit movie (after Monty Python)?
He just took lazy cash grab jobs.
Because he's a prostitute who'll take any role he's offered
The best thing to come out of this was their daily behind the scenes updates on their forums. It was actually ahead of it’s time.
Any archive of it? Were there actually people on those boards posting in anticipation?
Still blows my mind this was released theatrically in 2008. It would have been a mediocre CGI movie in 1997. It's practically Reboot-tier animation and the delusional narcissist behind the project really saw fit to keep pushing through to the end. A sad tale of hubris for sure.
1997 is about when initial work started on it but the poor quality of the CGI in the final product was likely somewhat due to the investors and everyone else involved just wanting to finally get it pushed out the door after a decade for fricking around with it. Animated movies have had significant amounts of their footage redone before but here it sounds like they struggled through the technical aspects and were happy to be done with it and move on to other things.
It has this sub-standard straight to dvd look, but I found the backgrounds nice enough looking. The biggest problem is just the entire cast are ugly. The aestetics are hideous - the princess is supposed to be this gorgeous thing and she's this she-lizard with fairy wings and the hero race are Black person-Reptiles. They all look like creepy aliens.
Cute rabbit teeth
Yeah like finally cutting out a tumor that's been growing. This came out the same time people were seeing teasers of Avatar.
It's funny that Avatar was the highest grossing movie at the time and Delgo the lowest as Fathom at one point said they were looking into suing Cameron for copying them. There are sites that compare the two and while the quality is vastly different, some of the concepts do appear to be similar enough to raise an eyebrow but not much more. Adler loved threatening to sue other companies but never went through with it.
>Fathom Studios, the Atlanta-based production company behind DELGO, was bombarded with emails as soon as the AVATAR trailer went live. A spokesperson for the studio said, "From what we have seen, we are amazed by the visual similarities between the two films and we are reviewing what legal options may be available to us."
https://www.awn.com/news/delgo-creators-looking-sue-over-avatar
The delusion
>pic
Floating islands aren't exactly unique. But Avatar was horribly generic to anyone who was into videogames or even just fantasy in general, I think normies had just never seen anything other than a football game before. I remember people gushing over the floating islands but I immediately thought "Hey that looks just like the floating islands from the game Legend of Dragoon", and that came out in 2000.
>Reboot-tier animation and the delusional narcissist behind the project really saw fit to keep pushing through to the end. A sad tale of hubris for sure.
>Guys, I am the ENLIGHTENED PERSON whose consumption habits align with BILLIONAIRES like Disney, Pixar, Marvel. I don't like that poor person over there. I personally align with Elon Musk.
Daily reminder that not one of you in here could do better and that capitalism has made you into sociopaths. Watching hollywood movies does not make you hollywood.
Frick off, all that mental gymnastics won't make a bad movie good.
>make a bad movie good.
How is it bad? It is just an early example of CGI cartoons. Their only mistake was releasing it in 2008 instead of 2001. The movie is about the level of saturday morning cartoons.
It's slightly better than saturday morning cartoons in terms of its animation.
Some people mentioned Luc Besson's animated film. If he didn't have all that PR and major agency power behind him, maybe it would be considered just as shit. You got to determine how much you are doing the bidding of Hollywood shitting on outsiders so that they can hold onto all the money.
Why would anyone think those characters looked appealing? Shrek's success must have fricked his head up.
>Watching hollywood movies does not make you hollywood.
tell that to the guy casting hollywood actors to voice his film while skimping on everything else
>poor person
LOL, Marc Adler was born into a israeli family worth billions. He was nowhere near being a poor person.
It looks worse than Antz and A Bug's Life, both which came out 10 years before.
imagine spending a decade of your life on crap
We need another 24/7 Delgo Live stream. Cytube?
I know I was 9 or so, but I still can't belive I made an adult pay to watch this shit with me
>can't belive I made an adult pay to watch this shit with me
now I feel bad for my parents
all those shitty kids' movies we went to see and they had to pretend they were as excited as little anon and had to pay for the privilege
it’s just one of the sacrifices parents make for their kids if they love them
you can understand the hype when something actually good like Toy Story comes along
I enjoy finding 3D animation that shouldve never been. Some anon posted this some time back from south america
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>Guys look at this... poor person, who is following his dream making creative works of art by hand. He is not at all like Elon Musk, who I personally align with, so we must mock him relentlessly.
t. Marc F Adler
Plus it isn't even bad. You dumb fricks think CGI came into thin air looking like it does today?
>5 million views
what is the story behind this?
What is it with delusional narcissist movie makers and horrible goblin aesthetics?
Self inserts
What is it with delusional narcissist consumers and their obsession with sucking hollywoods wiener
Still not the worst CG movie of 2008
How the frick did this gross 50 million? I've never even heard of it.
Close.
2008 was a strange year for theatrical CG movies
this was the first theatrical star wars film that was a failure... it's kind of this D+ series before they had D+.
As a dirt cheap "Let's stitch the pilot arc together" project, it actually made a profit.
>omg a 2008 cgi film doesnt look exactly like my blockbusters made in 2024, those dumb filmmakers were so delusional yall.
It has nothing to do with graphics. It's the art design that is ugly. Especially Igor.
space chimps was kino shut the frick up
why are they all so hideously ugly?
this shit is always on tv in my country for some reason
never seen it
>88 million box office gross
>zoomer on Cinemaphile is an expert on aesthetics and storytelling and thinks that he can do WAY better.
Weird thing to get irrationally defensive about...
I'm 29 and they're all delibrately fugly with out of proportion faces
see
this is how you do animation in the early 2000s
That is because they aren't going for literal representation in their art, they are doing stylized, avant garde artistic experiments.
>It's intentionally bad so that means it's good!
>they are doing stylized, avant garde artistic experiments.
making people disgusting looking is a really dumb thing to do. Kids don't like looking at ugly people - why do you think villains are made to be ugly - and feel less empathy and affection for creatures like that disgusting rodent.
I still have more respect for something like Delgo than for something like pic related. This was all style and zero substance. There is barely any storyline.
Well in that case Delgo was 0 style and 0 substance
Thank you, the moronic zoomers ITT are so brain dead they think 2008 animation is supposed to look like their zoomie spider man movies of 2024.
No, you dumb frick. These were all groundbreaking back in 2008.
so how come this came out in 2003 and still looks incredible?
face it, all these movies are ugly abominations made by morons
Late 2000s had some bizarre CG movies
I saw a 45 minute version of this movie and I enjoyed it surprisingly.
To actually contribute to the thread, I've watched Food Fight something like 13 times
why
Why is it that Americans latched onto astro boy and speed racer? I kept seeing so many parodies of these shows in cartoons growing up but it was basically taking the piss out of a 1950s show. And then Hollywood made movies about them 60 years later.
These shows weren't even that popular in Japan.
Because those two, Gigantor and Kimba were the only anime shows that boomers had.
Holy frick I didn't know about gigantor. I knew of kimba the white lion but I didn't know the iron giant was a rip-off. Now I'm pissed.
Iron Giant was based on a book and the original climax was "The Iron Giant engages in a battle of endurance challenges against a space dragon the size of Australia to save the world"
Ah yes
>Mans technology can surpass nature's might in anything
American hubris extends so far back and has such bizarre messaging.
The book was written by a British person.
Miyazaki is a bleeding heart gay and so are you.
>Mans technology can surpass nature's might in anything
>what is nuclear fission
Apparently, someone actually made a Delgo YTP:
I just remembered Butt Ugly Martians
WE ARE THE MARTIANS
THE BUTT UGLY MARTIANS
>Butt Ugly Martian has a better hairline than I do
ITT: Let's make fun of independent artists who poured their heart and soul into their work
>Meh, I'm not personally interested in that poor person by dunkin donuts. Elon Musk is more the sort of individual I identify with.
Yeah no fricking shit billionaires paying the top animators in the world money to do soulless high quality slop look better, than indie artists with no money who put their heart and soul in their work. Instead you should ask why you are such a sociopath that you choose to mock these people who are doing a better job than you can ever do.
2/10 bait
all those hideously repulsive films had millions to burn
You are still stuck on despereux or minimoys looking ugly, but you are looking at it from a 2024 point of view. No shit that they will not look like your spider man slop of today. Back then in the mid 2000s when they were released, they looked amazing because that was the style of the time popularized by things like Shrek.
no moron, they're objectively hideous. Look at Finding Nemo (2003). As a kid I fell in love with the cute fish and marvelled at the texturing of the coral and water. I get that they had a huge budget but it's not like technical limitations at the time meant things had to look ugly.
Shrek didn't have offensively hideous characters. Even Shrek himself wasn't that ugly, and Fiona was hot, Puss in Boots looked alright etc.
This shit is delibrately offensive looking. It's NOTHING to do with the budget or tech constraints they had.
This was the original design Dreamworks chose for Shrek but the film got delayed so many times that they changed it.
I don't even know what to say
I can feel my pulse rate increase and my blood heat up with anger looking at that
This is regrettably what William Steig's drawings of Shrek looked like.
das racist yo
sheeeit
One example that shows that lower budget isn't an excuse for ugly designs: Bee Movie. It aged a lot worse than other DreamWorks movies of the decade (Shrek, which released six years prior, blows this movie out of the water), but still looks ok.
says a lot that everyone remembers Bee Movie, even though it sucked, but nobody remembers all these frick ugly monstrocities.
Did animators back then just not understand basic child psychology?
>Bee Movie, even though it sucked, bu
You got filtered, it's unhinged kino on another level
You keep saying this but it is objectively wrong. Exagerated stylistic choices =/= ugly.
At least Pixar released one of their best movies that year.
This shit is so overrated, I can understand liking this movie but people will call this one of their best? Come on.
Heartless frick
>anti-fatty
>hetero robots
It's kino
Who here /GoatTale/?
this is what I mean. they CHOSE to make her look like a Bogdanoff.
WHY
To nerf the milk wagons.
jesus christ it makes me physically angry to look at how did anyone sit through hours of that
Why did so many animators settle on making "funny ugly" their style? It's so weird.
Because 2000s cg was ass so they decided to leaned into ugly if they wrote the characters to be humans or humanoids
more LIES
you don't need money to give charecters round, doeful eyes, rounded proportionate faces and cute smiles.
I can't tell if you're trolling at this point
Nah this homie was spittin
No cap, tell us more senpai
She answered the call
(The call that saved Goat Tale).
The only way to get away with giving her huge breasts
I still think the first Shrek movie holds up visually. It looked mindblowing on May 2001.
The environments and foliage still hold up.
i actually remember this one
how many shitty movies came out in that decade? it's a never ending cascade of sloppa
Many factors
>Shrek proved that low brow, non Pixar CG could make money
>CG rapidly becoming cheaper
>CG taking way less skill to make than traditional animation means cheaper outsourcing of projects
>Disney ending 2D production pushed 3D as the future
From that period of time between 2005 and 2008 when Ewan McGregor was put in everything.
Valiant was pretty good wash your mouth before talking about it. The confrontation with the big bad was genuinely chilling
Frieda was hot and she was voiced by Sigourne Weaver
oh shit thanks for posting
>Adler had a Dreamworks-escque philosophy that the skills can be taught, but talent cannot; as such, he hired people with "vision" over those with technical ability
omg, we need to teach the Ion Storm debackle in business and art schools now. And at least some business skills in the art school classes too.
>John Romero breaks off from Id to form Ion Storm
>meant to be a dream team of VISIONARIES
>hires a bunch of modders
>no one knows how to program or code an engine
>figures he can just liscense the Quake engine from his old buddies
>he does and they still have problems
>sees Quake 2, and realizes it's outdated so ports it to Quake 2 engine
>turns out this is very very hard and they have to remake the game
>Daikatana is heavily delayed, costing over 22 million dollars
>released and bombs
How was Deus Ex so good then?
>How was Deus Ex so good then?
Ion Storm had a Dallas branch led by Romero - total clusterfrick. And an Austin branch led by Warren Spector. Romero was a frat boy given millions so he went nuts, and was an idiot. Spector unlike Romero was actually a GOOD project manager and led to Deus Ex.
>In a fashion similar to other dot com busts, the company spent lavishly on office decor and facilities for employees.[4] The corporate headquarters of Ion Storm were located in Suite 5400,[5] 22,000-square-foot (2,000 m2) of space in a penthouse suite on the 54th floor, the top floor, of the Chase Tower in Downtown Dallas. Ion Storm spent $2 million on the facility.[6] Lisa Chadderdon of Fast Company said that the penthouse location was "unusual".[7] For the first ten years after the construction of the JPMorgan Chase Tower, the penthouse location had been unleased.[7]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion_Storm
>john romero become a gas station cashier
>american mcgee's sister went missing and he decided to go to exile in hong kong
>John Carmack spent almost a decade of his life on vr only for facebooks divestiy quota teams making archiving his dreams impossible
anyone else from the og doom team that had a tragic live?
>john romero become a gas station cashier
When did this happen?
>glad it's over
oh no Delgbros
>SCAD
because of course
I think the world needs a 24/7 Delgo Livestream, but I don't seem motivated enough to do it myself.
>Damn This DELGO Boy Is Sexy!
Would
>Kinos only you saw
Jesus frickin Christ
You must give us a breakdown
>Starring Mark Hamill
>only 192 reviews on IMDB
>Directed by a random American Jap
In a post apocalypse steampunk world where people all live on giant airships. They battle a gigantic robot demon that flies around and hunts the humans down. Its a fricking moronic anime plot but as a kid i found the main love interest a cute
this looks grim
This is possibly the worst poster for a movie I have seen in my life
It was quite big in Spain due to being the most expensive animated movie so far made in the country
this shit was on cartoon network all the time
it had a pretty interesting world and background, but the plot itself sucked
No fricking way I've been looking for this thing forever, I only remembered the ending cause it stuck with me as beautiful or something
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ga411Q7Db/
It was better in my mind because it was the girl who delivered the "like angels" line instead of the other dude
Impressive cgi for 2003
>ugly chin incel
>pan faced bug eyed chick with no figure
>masked robot thing that has no appeal to children despite being (I assume) the protagonist
>another ugly pan faced scowling girl
>stupid looking blue moron
>hedgehog on meth
yuck
There was a lot of good CGI at that point, as someone who actually was alive at the time, this kind of shit was never good. Ice Age came out in 2002, Shrek came out in 2001, A bugs Life came out years earlier, etc. Even Toy Story still looks decent and that was 1995 with what years of gap means.
No one at that time thought any of these c tier movies looked good or "decent for the time"
You're comparing Pixar Disney productions against a literal what movie made by literal who's on a budget 1/10th their size. As a kid i found it shiny and kinda cool
>on a budget 1/10th their size.
why do people keep saying this shit!! Sure, the textures were never going to be as perfect but you don't need money to make cute characters. They CHOSE to make them ugly. That's why nobody cares about those films and they bombed. Not because of the budget. Because they are not cute
He wants (you)s and he is succeeding
Can say anything you want about it but it wasnt "impressive", to me and everyone I knew they always looked like cheap knockoffs, and the general public clearly agreed.
Also that movie had a budget of 12 mil while Toy Story was almost 10 years earlier and was 30m, not even close to 10x
Grim
>lets make a film for kids with characters kids will find scary/evil/repulsive
when I was 3 I had a catapillar toy from bugs life. I loved it. Not because the bug had 'high budget textures' or because of the film plot, but because it was frickin adorable
how can you have 12 million dollars and not understand this?
Yes you moronic fricknugget, it looked like shit at the time and seven year old you doesn't get a say in this
I was just making this thread ironically, I didn't know I was going to discover such a gold mine.
Cinemaphile is a Delgo-nnoseurs.
>1998
>looks better than everything posted here
what's the excuse from the morons in this thread now?
Good art design and pleasing designs. They're bugs so they could look hideous but they look cute.
Since none of you guys know shit about animation it's because when you make normal looking people, it becomes unwatchable due to the uncanny valley effect. (see: The Polar Express and Beowulf). Bug movies are the only thing getting praise here , but when the same restriction is applied to people, you go, "derrrrr the older generations just weren't enlightened like the way we were with spider man miles morales, look at all the crap they made, they were so stupid! We zoomers know everything!" No. They were working with the limitations they had at the time. You aren't special just because you are standing on the shoulders of giants.
After watching Delgo all I could think was "why the frick did anyone think this was a good idea". Then the concept art rolled with the credits and I was like "oh that's why". The concept art look like concepts for an actually good movie.