Denis Dun DId Her Dirty. No Justice for Alia

Denis Dun DId Her Dirty

No Justice for Alia

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Alicia Witt is hotter than the zero buccal fat alien.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      She's just a D girl.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      More like Alice a shitt

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I cannot describe the boner Alicia Witt gives me, something about her is perfection which I cannot fully comprehend.
      Her and Eva Green are a toss up for the perfect mommy.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      *Was.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Still would.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Still would, very cute face despite the years
        >Verification not required.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Still looks pretty good for a woman pushing 50

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      She was absolute perfection in the painfully dull Cybill sitcom. To be fair Cybill Shepherd was a top tier MILF at that time too.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Frick you, Anya is beautiful
      Plus that picture of Witt is probably 10 or 15 years old you homosexual

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Anya is beautiful
        With some buccal fat, yes. Not without it.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Looks fine to me
          Here's an actual recent pic of her right before the DUNC 2 premiere

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Denied.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >be fighting against the Sardukar shits
      >take a break and move back while shai hulud does his thing
      >look back to a pile of dead sardukar
      >see this

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How can anyone praise the new Dune when it couldn't even be bothered to include anything genuinely strange like this?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This is my question. It’s like when everybody applauded the modern Batman (Nolan series) for being a “modern take” on the series. That’s how I feel about DUNC, it’s a “modern” sterile a-theistic version of the story from the books

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Batman has had a thousand reboots and covers and reimaginings. People want a faithful adaption of Dune on par with LoTR

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This is my question. It’s like when everybody applauded the modern Batman (Nolan series) for being a “modern take” on the series. That’s how I feel about DUNC, it’s a “modern” sterile a-theistic version of the story from the books

        you're fricking moronic if you think this was a normal movie. just because there werent pugs of nazi milking machines doesnt mean it wasnt fricking out there for a blockbuster film. name 5 films that cost at least 100 million and are weirder. name ONE

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Endgame had magic rocks and time travel and aliens and wizards and Norse gods and black people who were smart and resurrection and soul trapping/exile
          It may be normalized due to the MCU, but it is very weird to have all of those things in a film.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >black goop landing on a transparent roof as fireworks
        >a fetus in the womb with blue eyes speaking to its mother through telekinesis
        >multiple internal shots of the developing fetus talking and moving around
        >The entire existence of the Harkonnen world

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >fireworks but monochrome!!!
          >derivative imagery from Lynch's Dune and several other media
          >see above
          >roman empire but alien, also an entire aesthetic based on H. R. Giger's work
          It really is true how this movie captures midwits imagination. I guess its nice if you never ever watched a movie before.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Lynch's Dune is memorable. That's worth more than any praise from bugmen and reviews from equally bugmen reviewers. It will be remembered. That's all anything or anyone can ask for and should strive for.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Denis didn't add it because he didn't want such a big timeskip, not because it was too weird

        He'll probably add child Alia in the next movie

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          he wont moron, he literally shows you the aylmao girl he will use if that's the case dummy

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Nah, there's going to be a 20-30 year timeskip so he can use Anya and have her romance Jason Momoa.

            The movie ended with Chani butthurt, there's no way that plotline is going nowhere. Denis already shortened the timeskip in Dune don't see why he wouldn't do it again. Anya will probably be saved for the final movie

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Anya will probably be saved for the final movie
              The next one is "the final movie", moron.
              Villeneuve has said that from the start.
              He just wants "his" trilogy.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Nah, there's going to be a 20-30 year timeskip so he can use Anya and have her romance Jason Momoa.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >He'll probably add child Alia in the next movie
          Why would he when the next book quite literally requires a massive timeskip and he's already cast an adult actress?
          Just because he cannot get Chalamaladingdong to look (or act) his actual age?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Nah, that would a)derail the plot of the Messiah competely, and b) you don't cast fricking Anya Taylor Joy for a 5 second cameo and don't intend to build up on it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Harkonnens had hecking white skin and bald, super weird fr fr ong.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      this is a truly incredible shot, you can't even purely plan for something like this, the way she is posed is other worldly, its like a painting.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        no cap

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >I'm sorry, Grandfather

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >yippee!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        She looks like a baby worm …was that intentional?

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This single frame is more kino that Denis' entire filmography.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      too weird!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        the ‘too weird’ is just an excuse for a lack of vision. One could say that about everything in Dune, I mean riding giant worms across the desert and using them at instruments of war while Arab looking dudes do flip kicks with machetes against terror troops with laser guns is about as cinematically silly as it gets, but he still managed to make it look as cool as you could probably get it in a movie trying to be quote on quote “grounded”
        Alia’s birth wold coincide with the part of the movie that is already steeping deep into the crazy esoteric effects of worm juice drinking. If you accept the plausibility of Benne Gesserit powers and the magic of the kwisatz haderach including Paul’s dime turn balls deep priority shift into the Golden Path then the creepy presence of Alia is not a stretch either. In fact, her participation in the battle of Arakin would further highlight the conflict is no longer singularly about the liberation of Arrakis, but it’s starting point for the universal jihad. Alia is not Fremen, she represents something much much more sinister to come in the following events awaiting the galaxy. It shows Paul is not necessarily the be all and end all boss of the movie; shes one of many many moving parts thrusting his destiny forward.
        Jessica already fulfills this role is is plenty creepy herself in the movie, but a little crazy batshit girl like Alia running amok deserves to make the audience uncomfortable – something terrible is coming and we cant control it

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          This is how I feel about BR > BR2049 too. There are many scenes in BR2049 where it actually feels more competently filmed but Villeneuve is incapable of literalized metaphor like the scene with Roy on the rooftops holding a dove choosing to let Deckard live. I don't know if it's a lack of ability or just choosing to keep things more grounded for a modern audience but it's so unfortunate.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Geidi Prime admittedly blew me away visually. It’s so very much distinct from the rest of the movie – it feels like you are watching a different movie. In my theater I was hearing murmurs during the initial scene of Feyd’s ‘birthday party’ in awe of the scene. It truly looked like an alien planet and spoke so much to how diverse these different worlds on the galaxy all must look; if Geidi Prime looks like that then what do the other worlds look like?
            I was very impressed he went that far

            We have to remember what Dune Part II is building up to: shit is going to get far, far stranger than anything we’ve seen on Arrakis so far once the Jihad starts (ffs we aint even seen guild navigators yet).

            Maybe Deni was insecure about the presentation as is being too much for audiences to swallow
            >wtf happened to Jessica why is she evil now?
            >riding worms into war, thats stupid!
            >why is Paul suddenly a different person after drinking worm pee? This is confusing
            >the Fremen are all a bunch of buttholes, why are these “the good guys”?
            >what even is spice, why is it so important. This movie doesn’t make sense
            are all probably things the studio and or Deni were worrying moronic general audiences would say, but they were completely proven wrong. People loved the movie and they ate up everything presented in stride, and they are hungry for more.
            What Im saying is I think they didn’t understand how much esoteric book shit they truly could have gotten away with at the time of production. These are studios who still think the general audience wants to see Avengers capeslop and not ambitious titles like BR2049 (which flopped)

            Hopefully this emboldens the studio to embrace the written world of Dune more and not treat the general audience as blithing morons

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Do you think we actually will see guild navigators? My impression is he's just going to cut the guild and the tleilaxu out and make it a Chani-Paul power struggle.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No, that hack villeneuve will never touch anything that weird.
                The best you're gonna get is a rewrite of messiah where zendaya scowls her way to bringing down Paul as a stunning and brave woman.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It would be so disappointing if he limits the scope in such a way; its a disservice to the audience in an otherwise decent adaptation so far.
                Im surprised they went as far as they did with Paul embracing his role as the mahdi. His heel turn balls deep into the utterly ruthless dictator of the Fremen using religious fervor is NOT something you ever see a Hollywood “hero” do. In any other movie Paul becomes the villain in this moment and is not someone the audience should root for and he should be duely punished for his actions. But he is not; he is rewarded. He unites the Fremen, wins the battle, indulges in bloody revenge, summarily orders the execution of the Saudakar, seized the throne if the Imperium, betrays his lover, and knowingly launches a Jihad that will kill billions for a future the audience cant even see. And most shockingly this is all depicted in grandeur, you are still rooting for him – Paul is still sexy, attractive, authoritative, charismatic, bold. Besides Chani’s kvetching Paul is still allowed to be a badass motherfricker and everyone has his back.
                In a big budget blockbuster like Dune the convention these days would be to police such behavior.
                >we don’t want the audience getting funny ideas about this evil man
                >you missed the point by idolizing him meme
                Pail Muadib is a dangerous figure and Im very surprised they let him go as hard as he did at the end of the movie.

                So far Im not seeing too much b***hing from the tone police about the depection of Paul, so I hope that does not warrant a retraction where he is smacked down for his evil behavior to shove a lame lesson down our throats about the rise of dictators or whatever. Herbert already does that in the book, so keep doing what they have been doing and adapt Messiah as written. Paul ends up abdicating power anyways and Leto II takes over anyways. Its all there.
                We don’t need a watered down reduction in scope to Paul having to win back Chani.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I think ultimately Villeneuve will justify his toning down of Dune and focus on a Chani vs. Paul plot, and removal of more fantastical elements like face dancers guild navigators Hayt etc, by saying what he has depicted is an alternate vision of Paul. I think that's why he worked in the "Hello, grandfather" line which is explicitly something Paul sees in a vision which is not the future that goes down in the book Dune.

                I think this honestly makes sense for Villeneuve. Most of the groundwork for Dune Messiah has been abandoned. A lot of the deeper overarching stuff in Dune isn't in his first two movies, and that means there really is no way to show Hayt as the perfect trap for Paul, or have the weirdness of the Tleilaxu not be distracting, or set up Paul's kids and his fear of losing them right. It's a shame because I think the interaction of the plotters opposed to Paul could be great on the big screen, and Scytale, Hayt and Bijaz would be great roles for the right actors.

                Paul comes to loathe what he is as Emperor and godhead of the Jihad and I do wonder, with a lower tone, if they will be able to properly translate that into the Messiah film. Ultimately he chooses to be destroyed rather than give in or continue the mantle; I think there's explicitly a passage in Dune Messiah that indicates a Kwisatz Haderach could not be destroyed unless they wished for their own destruction.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Dennis Telenovella has no understanding of Dune. Chani was a miserable, physically abusive, gaslighting c**t in the film. I was glad Paul left her in the film version. In the book she is unquestionably supportive and understood she would always be his number 1 and Irulan was just a political marriage never being touched by Paul.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Are you moronic or AI?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              It looked cool for sure, but should have been a 30 second clip, felt like half an hour wasted there.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The entire Giedi scene looked like a perfume commercial. Kind of took me out of it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It was better than sand and black people howlering at the camera.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                What kino perfume commercials have you been watching?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                *I did my own research

                I see it.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >not treat the general audience as blithing morons
              ah well that's your problem right there.

              It would be so disappointing if he limits the scope in such a way; its a disservice to the audience in an otherwise decent adaptation so far.
              Im surprised they went as far as they did with Paul embracing his role as the mahdi. His heel turn balls deep into the utterly ruthless dictator of the Fremen using religious fervor is NOT something you ever see a Hollywood “hero” do. In any other movie Paul becomes the villain in this moment and is not someone the audience should root for and he should be duely punished for his actions. But he is not; he is rewarded. He unites the Fremen, wins the battle, indulges in bloody revenge, summarily orders the execution of the Saudakar, seized the throne if the Imperium, betrays his lover, and knowingly launches a Jihad that will kill billions for a future the audience cant even see. And most shockingly this is all depicted in grandeur, you are still rooting for him – Paul is still sexy, attractive, authoritative, charismatic, bold. Besides Chani’s kvetching Paul is still allowed to be a badass motherfricker and everyone has his back.
              In a big budget blockbuster like Dune the convention these days would be to police such behavior.
              >we don’t want the audience getting funny ideas about this evil man
              >you missed the point by idolizing him meme
              Pail Muadib is a dangerous figure and Im very surprised they let him go as hard as he did at the end of the movie.

              So far Im not seeing too much b***hing from the tone police about the depection of Paul, so I hope that does not warrant a retraction where he is smacked down for his evil behavior to shove a lame lesson down our throats about the rise of dictators or whatever. Herbert already does that in the book, so keep doing what they have been doing and adapt Messiah as written. Paul ends up abdicating power anyways and Leto II takes over anyways. Its all there.
              We don’t need a watered down reduction in scope to Paul having to win back Chani.

              i am worried about the direction chani is going. i like zendaya, i like her as chani, and in the first part of dunc 2 i found her fantastic. but they turned her character into Skylar from breaking bad which, while understandable (and helpful to audiences less familiar with the novels) this really breaks her character a bit doesnt it? first of all shes not fun to watch and a bit of a drag when she's always scowling and getting upset or trying to get in pauls way.. second, this doesnt really set her up for her role in Messiah and that worries me. i really hope denis doesnt completely change messiah. i suggested above that maybe he could transplant the major plot points from messiah to take place DURING the jihad, im okay with changes like that if necessary for a film, but i am NOT okay with completely turning the story on its head and turning it into chani vs paul and girlboss chani saves the day from evil mayo dictator boy.
              but denis has won my trust with this franchise so frick it

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Geidi Prime looked like a 90s goth music video with the usual giger look that's bern done to death. Bland as frick.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Do you think we actually will see guild navigators? My impression is he's just going to cut the guild and the tleilaxu out and make it a Chani-Paul power struggle.

              I could have sworn that the depiction of Alia as a fetus (with webbed hands and deformed skull) was going to set up for the reveal of the Guild Navigators being depicted as regressing back into a fetal and almost retro evolved fishlike state. so pissed he didn't show them. at least it looks like we'll get a third movie

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >at least it looks like we'll get a third movie
                And how is that supposed to be a good thing?
                You know the story is already fricked with Alia not being around in the most recent one and Zendaya throwing a hissy fit and leaving, right?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >BR2049 had flashbacks to constantly remind the stupid audience.

            Stupid fricking movie.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        A scary evil child is not uncommon, multiple movie franchises are built on the concept. It's less weird than a talking fetus honestly.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          when you make a pro-life movie to own the ignorant chuds

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        lame excuse
        the dune book is weird
        too weird is like saying too dune.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Mental illness

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      i just saw this frick all you contrarians, best blockbuster ever. yes a longer timeframe, so that alia would be born by the end, would make a little more sense but denis did it so well it wasnt necessary. jessica talking to her throughout the movie was trippy and cool anyway
      fa/tv/irgins can lick my balls

      I'm trying to get through this movie now
      I admit I got filtered hard by the floating Irulan head, like 3 times when I tried to watch this movie in the past
      but what a disgusting, filthy movie
      every frame is just completely disgusting and ugly
      I guess it's "on purpose" but man is it heard to watch. new Dune also depicted ugliness but in a beautiful way
      I'm just going to say it
      I am not a fan of David Lynch.

      dune is... special. and it really is hard to fathom why some decisions were made, but a lot of scenes look great and feel endearing anyway. dont knock Cinemaphile's patron saint until you actually watch the stuff he was born to make

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Please stop posting on Cinemaphile as if nobody would be able to figure out you're a tourist. You have awful, twitter/reddit-like prose. You are extremely closed-minded, opinionated, and the way you type reads exactly like every other desperate male in his mid-30s who wishes beyond all doubt to be liked by the 15 year old girls who follow his blue check mark account on social media. Go back to watching FilmScape and Curtis Connor you insincere moron.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          was that little fanfic you wrote autobiographical? stay mad you little homosexual zoomer

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's true, they put the Gom Jabbar in a drawer in the first act but forgot to ever get it out and pull the trigger

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Way more satisfying that gaiboi Timothee

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    GET OUT OF MY MIND

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm trying to get through this movie now
    I admit I got filtered hard by the floating Irulan head, like 3 times when I tried to watch this movie in the past
    but what a disgusting, filthy movie
    every frame is just completely disgusting and ugly
    I guess it's "on purpose" but man is it heard to watch. new Dune also depicted ugliness but in a beautiful way
    I'm just going to say it
    I am not a fan of David Lynch.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      its insanely ugly. Like a schizophrenic fever dream. Nothing rhymes or reasons. The aesthetic was an AI generated mess.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Zoomies won't get it. Go back to your slop and be safe.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      a lot of it's a complete mess, but I really like the opening scene with the imperial court and the guild navigators
      >I DID NOT SAY THIS
      >I AM NOT HERE

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'm trying to get through this movie now
        I admit I got filtered hard by the floating Irulan head, like 3 times when I tried to watch this movie in the past
        but what a disgusting, filthy movie
        every frame is just completely disgusting and ugly
        I guess it's "on purpose" but man is it heard to watch. new Dune also depicted ugliness but in a beautiful way
        I'm just going to say it
        I am not a fan of David Lynch.

        Whats bad and ugly about it?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I didn't say bad
          I said ugly
          Well, and hard to watch. Cause it is. Cause it's so ugly.
          But I didn't say bad
          You can not tell me watching sweaty as frick harkonnens having pustules drained while touching the gay of a gay boy bleeding aids everywhere is not ugly. It is extremely ugly. Again, on purpose, but still hideous

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            what a great list of issues man

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I MUST SPEAK WITH THE EMPEROR ALONE! GET THAT WITCH OUT OF HERE!
        >Bitches leave! Okay space poo what do you want to talk about?
        >You gotta kill the Atreidies man.
        >the Duke?
        >nah man the son, Paul
        >but why?
        >I WAS NEVER HERE OKAY!? *leaves*
        >*emperors goons come back
        >BUT WHY DID THE GUILD WANT ME TO KILL PAUL!????

        this guy fricking serious?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      David Lynch is the last person you want doing a grand scale story like Dune in a cohesive way. Really he's the last person you want doing any adaptation. He really works best with a blank slate. Lost Highway is a must see if nothing has clicked yet.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I saw last highway
        I hated it
        coomed to it though
        The only thing he did that I liked was where he talks to the monkey

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Even having read the books, the first time I watched Lynch Dune I found it to be completely incomprehensible, but I chalked that up to most late 70s and early 80s sci fi being that way. Having been forced to watch more Lynch movies and shows since then, I've come to realize that Lynch is simply a hack who regularly releases incomprehensible garbage that pseuds latch onto when they're pretending to be esoteric.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Lynch is better in small bites, but I still think '84 Dune was better than Dunc.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You have to be really really REALLY stupid to not understand Lynch at least on the plot level.
        All of the stories he tells are extremly straightforward.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      L Y N C H E D
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    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Post your age.
      Considering you haven't seen it before and offended by the creative visuals...I would guess you're a millennial or outright zoom zoom.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I don't care if this is a troll post or not. I just want to say thank you for actually expressing an opinion about the topic at hand instead of just sperging out and making it about whatever culture war issue triggers you the most.

      reminds me of when the internet wasn't taken over by normies and polcels.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I admit I got filtered hard by the floating Irulan head
      hahahahaha I cant breath

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Kind of liked her better as a demon fetus

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      demon fetus with no payoff

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's not a set up for anything in this movie though, aside from the dream when drinks the water. It's setting up the character for the next movie.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    At least she was still technically in the movie
    My homie thufir just straight up forgotten

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How the frick did Denis leave out so much and got twice the amount of time to tell the story?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        apparently his scenes were filmed but cut for time. Maybe we'll get an extended cut.
        Shame though. Even if he wasn't given any important role in the story for time constraints, they could've at least had him standing in the background as a prisoner with the other slaves on geidi prime or something

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        hack fraud

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Needed more time for endless Chani scenes.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        He thinks the setting is stupid obviously. That's why we don't got to see any of it and he skipped anything hard or clunky to translate into movie scenes. Same with Messiah if he ever does it, the twins will be straight up cut from the movie.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Idk, but there had better be a 3.5 hour directors cut or I'm going to be fricking pissed.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        To bloat up the women roles. They even said this prior to release.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >To bloat up the women roles.
          The only "woman role" that got bloated up was Zendaya's. The rest got either reduced or cut entirely.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      this made me sad 🙁

      He thinks the setting is stupid obviously. That's why we don't got to see any of it and he skipped anything hard or clunky to translate into movie scenes. Same with Messiah if he ever does it, the twins will be straight up cut from the movie.

      twins are probably getting cut from part 3 except for maybe getting born and zendaya dying? i bet denis transplants all the intrigue and plot from messiah to take during the jihad. might still get a bit of a timeskip but definitely not 12 years. i dont think this sounds unreasonable for a film adaptation though

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The Messiah book is incredibly boring, so yeah it has to change stuff

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Those homosexuals who say pt1 and 2 are one big movie conveniently ignore thufir magically dissappearing.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    is "dun her dirty" this week's manager approved phrase to appear like you're not a shill?

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They simply should have Anya Taylor Joy growing faster, as the abomination Alia is supposed to be...but Denise is deathly afraid to embrace the moronic stuff that makes Dune Dune.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Denise is deathly afraid to embrace the moronic stuff that makes Dune Dune
      You either get a big budget Dune that's palatable to normies or no Dune at all, take your pick.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No Dune then. It’s one of the seminal sci fi works. Do it right or don’t do it. It worked for LoTR. It’s a popular IP for a reason. Do it right.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >It worked for LoTR
          That's exactly what the DUNC movies are doing though. Making changes to be palatable to the screen. Do you fricking think the lotr books are anything like the movies?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Cutting Tom Bombadil was a good choice. Cutting an enormous amount of important contextual content from the Dune novel is not. DUNC should have been a trilogy with Messiah as a separate 90 minute retrospective by Paul as he's blind and disappearing into the desert, tormented by spice visions.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Cutting Tom Bombadil
              we're not talking about Bombadil you pleb

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Both and Dune and LoTR were adapted into Hollywood style action epics. Just be happy you got the Missionaria Protectiva.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >it worked for lotr
          You haven't read the books

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No Dune adaptations then. I'm not illiterate; I don't need film versions to exist.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Anya
      She shouldn't be that grown-up by the end.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      we already have worms, spice, water of life, visions of the future, plans within plans, scary foreboding talking fetuses, telepathic communication, the whole jessica turning into a shaman queen thing, the black sun, i mean these movies are chock full with weird stuff.

      I saw last highway
      I hated it
      coomed to it though
      The only thing he did that I liked was where he talks to the monkey

      monkey one is good
      blue velvet or mullholland drive for weird. elephant man for normal. if those dont tickle your fancy then yup you just dont like david lynch

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Dennis could not pulled this off, so he backed off with her.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He filmed it?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        that's from the miniseries anon.
        also, she is mini. haha get it?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'm seriously convinced those who like dunc have no idea about the source material and the various adaptions.
        Mini series is superior over Denis bland "vision"

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I could save her

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Too late you wiener prostitute, she's rightfully mine! Tell that egyptian prostitute living inside your grandson's head to frick right off, she's for only true harkonnen!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      in some sort of time machine

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ngl I gasped when I see her talking and acting like an adult in Lynch's movie, I was 15 years old in 2009 so that was surprising for me

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Its one of my top senes from 84 Dune
      She’s just creepy enough to be believable, all you need is Helen Mohiam’s reaction alone to understand this girl is extremely, extremely powerful.

      Usually kids talking like adults is laughable and stupid, like an exorcist movie where they spin their heads around and act moronic. But Alia carries herself in a way that’s believable she has a thousand generations of wisdom in the brain of a sadistic child’s brain who does not conform to lived human experience. You only see a sliver of what she’s capable of at the very end of the movie but it leaves you wanting to know just what the hell is going on with that kid??
      Its a fascinating concept that I regret we were not allowed to see in Dune Part II because I sincerely believe she would have been a great fit in the bloodied chaos of the final battle at Arakin (and would have taken some weight off of Paul having to do the evil shit by himself)

      Oh well, its not all bad because we will see her in Dune III. Im just glad she wasn’t axed entirely as I feared. Shes still in the movie as a fetus and we do see her cast as a real big actor which means there’s potential to do her right.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Oh well, its not all bad because we will see her in Dune III. Im just glad she wasn’t axed entirely as I feared. Shes still in the movie as a fetus and we do see her cast as a real big actor which means there’s potential to do her right.
        Her story is botched though since her character arc is defined by the ending of Dune and what she does to the Baron. I'd be fine with the changes if we didn't know the next books were coming and how the things in the first one affect the next ones, Stilgar's character arc, Chani's arc, Alia's Arc all of them are botched and majorly affected by Part 2.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Stilgar's disappointing in that they take the endpoint (Stilgar is entirely a creature of Muad'dib) and just rush all the way there and play it for comedy, rather than showing the turning of a man who was a capable leader in his own right into a puppet.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            to do everything that everyone wants with dune, we would seriously need 5 movies that are each 3 hours

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I agree. I think it was a big mistake.
          It puts much more of a burden on Part III to waste time establishing Alia’s character when the original author already thought of it decades ago.

          This is how Game of Thrones got fricked. They thought they were smarter than GRRM and changed things. But when you make a change you own it and the effects snowball to the point you are left with a story unrecognizable from the source material, and at that point pulling from the books doesn’t work anymore.

          I think ultimately Villeneuve will justify his toning down of Dune and focus on a Chani vs. Paul plot, and removal of more fantastical elements like face dancers guild navigators Hayt etc, by saying what he has depicted is an alternate vision of Paul. I think that's why he worked in the "Hello, grandfather" line which is explicitly something Paul sees in a vision which is not the future that goes down in the book Dune.

          I think this honestly makes sense for Villeneuve. Most of the groundwork for Dune Messiah has been abandoned. A lot of the deeper overarching stuff in Dune isn't in his first two movies, and that means there really is no way to show Hayt as the perfect trap for Paul, or have the weirdness of the Tleilaxu not be distracting, or set up Paul's kids and his fear of losing them right. It's a shame because I think the interaction of the plotters opposed to Paul could be great on the big screen, and Scytale, Hayt and Bijaz would be great roles for the right actors.

          Paul comes to loathe what he is as Emperor and godhead of the Jihad and I do wonder, with a lower tone, if they will be able to properly translate that into the Messiah film. Ultimately he chooses to be destroyed rather than give in or continue the mantle; I think there's explicitly a passage in Dune Messiah that indicates a Kwisatz Haderach could not be destroyed unless they wished for their own destruction.

          Which leads perfectly into what (you) are saying. I agree. I think Messiah will be changed and watered down. The task of properly adapting Messiah is honestly much more daunting than Dune.
          Its a shame because I think Deni’s work is solid and IT COULD BE DONE. He has all the resources available to him. Two successful movies that were stupidly, stupidly risky in this detestablly dumbed down Hollywood market held hostage by a decade of capeshit actually ended up maddly succeeding. We should not understate how impressive that feat is.
          By all rights he has the green light to have carte blance for Dune III hes proven himself. Dune III will not be a risk, people will watch it and it will make money which is all the studios care about.

          Its funny, its like Deni has the Golden Path ahead of him. He could make something absolutely grand and bold he just needs to seize it like Paul does.
          People are dying for something new, a movie that doesn’t shy away and pander like Aquaman 2 or The Marvels.
          Go at it and go hard, no compromises. Give something really meaty, and dense so that they can adapt the rest of the books into a mini series or something.

          But the cynic in me says he will balk. The guy cant even say “Jihad.” And as we learned from Game of Thrones the further you stray from source material the odds that it will be shit skyrocket.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            2/2 have been better than i hoped for, i give him the benefit of the doubt and hope he makes it

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I was kinda confused If Jessica give birth to Alia or not before the war.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          its not botched
          abomination can still take hold without being from the baron specifically (one of the more moronic aspects of the book, while still being pretty cool, but ultra moronic and transparently commercial rather than artistic imo)
          hell, she could still become abominable through accessing barons memory, we can be introduced to her by finding out she has all these memories and slowly see her "hearing voices" and whatnot.
          you clearly lack imagination but luckily denis doesn't, even if fa/tv/irgins cant see it

          I think ultimately Villeneuve will justify his toning down of Dune and focus on a Chani vs. Paul plot, and removal of more fantastical elements like face dancers guild navigators Hayt etc, by saying what he has depicted is an alternate vision of Paul. I think that's why he worked in the "Hello, grandfather" line which is explicitly something Paul sees in a vision which is not the future that goes down in the book Dune.

          I think this honestly makes sense for Villeneuve. Most of the groundwork for Dune Messiah has been abandoned. A lot of the deeper overarching stuff in Dune isn't in his first two movies, and that means there really is no way to show Hayt as the perfect trap for Paul, or have the weirdness of the Tleilaxu not be distracting, or set up Paul's kids and his fear of losing them right. It's a shame because I think the interaction of the plotters opposed to Paul could be great on the big screen, and Scytale, Hayt and Bijaz would be great roles for the right actors.

          Paul comes to loathe what he is as Emperor and godhead of the Jihad and I do wonder, with a lower tone, if they will be able to properly translate that into the Messiah film. Ultimately he chooses to be destroyed rather than give in or continue the mantle; I think there's explicitly a passage in Dune Messiah that indicates a Kwisatz Haderach could not be destroyed unless they wished for their own destruction.

          >they wont do hayt
          >with the right actor hayt would be good
          you have room temp IQ if you dont think they got jason momoa specifically to do this

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >you clearly lack imagination but luckily denis doesn't
            Kek. Best joke I've heard in a while.
            Your "Denis" cannot even make nature shots look aesthetic, and thinks concrete blocks are the height of architecture.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    So bookgays, is Alia called Saint Alia of the Knife for something more than pricking her grandpa with the pin of eternal suffering?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      After killing the Baron she goes around and finish off barely surviving sardoukars with a knife

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      She was killing people and rejoicing while bathing in their blood. Little b***h was a fricking demon since day one. Alia the Abomination, they called her.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Alia and the guild navigator were the only good things about this movie

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    very cute

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Who cares, Alia goes Splatia anyways. Children of Dune takes a huge crap over Dune Messiah, the superior book.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I also really have doubts about how Chalamet could ever act as the established Muad'dib, the Emperor, so a shortened timeline might not be the worst thing.

      I don't disagree but I respect Herbert for setting up the dangers of an abomination and then following through with his abominated character. Too often genre fiction sets up a risk and then the PoV characters just manage to ignore or not be affected by it. Even Leto II as an individual is essentially consumed by his ancestral personalities, he just manages to forge them into something that can still operate as a ruler.

      No question the writing gets worse as the books go on, beefswelling lol.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Fair enough, I respect that too.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How will Denis deal with Ghanima marrying at 9?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      marriage agreement/pact/betrothal
      are you even trying to troll

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's okay. She'll always be in the better adaptation.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    someone said they made a supercut with all the cut content. anyone know what to search on 1337 to find it?

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I would not cut Alia out but I hated her entire scene in the book, I'd completely rewrite it. Lynch did it verbatim and it is as static as a bad play.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >it is as static as a bad play.
      you've described the entirety of Lynch's Dune

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Still not as lifeless as Villeneuve's characters standing in completely barren spaces for no reason.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Dune could mostly work as a stage play, there’s basically 2 big battles and 4 duels (if you count the training room scene)

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw no ninja baby teleporting behind a gigantic floating obese man dressed in gold while a old granny screams in the background
    my movie experience was ruined

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's so hard to get a child actor to "talk" like adult?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Not for a good director.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I tried watching Lynch's Dune when I was a kid and hated it. I watched it as an adult and fricking loved it. You'll enjoy it one day too, zoomer scum.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You sound like someone who uses "kino" outside of Cinemaphile.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm willing to die on the hill that Lynch came closer than anyone ever to translating dune to cinema, and he did it in only 2 h 17 minutes.
      If they gave him a 13 season hour long episode format big budget show, it could be done.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe I'm going to be attacked here but honestly I find part 1 so boring and even unnecessary, people justify that the book is too complex but I still think that Villenueve didn't try his best to compact this movies somehow

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I liked part 1, i've just left the theater a few hours ago and right now I think I like part 1 better even if the one was "less boring" it sort of lacks in the character department in favor or more action scenes

          I'm willing to die on the hill that Lynch came closer than anyone ever to translating dune to cinema, and he did it in only 2 h 17 minutes.
          If they gave him a 13 season hour long episode format big budget show, it could be done.

          there's definetely a sweet spot between Lynch and Villeneuve adaptations that would be perfection
          Vlleneuve one is too bland in some aspects, Arrakis is supposed to have glimpses of beauty, one of my favorite scenes in the book is when Leto is in the balcony just before sunrise and he sees a field of beautiful red flowers and he thinks "maybe this planet isn't so bad, maybe this can be home" and then the natives come to harvest the moisture of the flowers killing them in the process and leto says "No. I hate this place."

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            People should watch Lynch's Dune (redux edition with the deleted scenes) before Villenueve because I think that the movie have better set up with new Dune, kinda correlated you know? At least I always suggest that to people who will watch Villenueve's Dune

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    > Toddler being super agile and killing the Baron.

    Ot would look fricking stupid. It's cool in the book, bit what look too weird on screen.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    why did they cut thufir

    also did I see a promotional still with Thufir in the last fight or did I schizo hallucinate it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Guy was pro-strike I think. They gutted his part.

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I always thought the time skip was a few years because that's how old she seems to be in Lynch's movie which seems stupid that nobody was able to figure out Mua'dib was Paul and do something about him, but in the book apparently she's around 2 years old which makes more sense, but you can't feasibly have a super intelligent 2 year old walking around in a movie. So it's probably for the best she was left unborn.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      this. as much as i want to see alia, its pretty much impossible to do right in a movie. Unless its full CG or full voiceover it isnt possible to have a very young kid act out the part

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >So it's probably for the best she was left unborn.
      You're a complete and utter moron if you think cutting a character is better than slightly aging her up.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        So Paul and the Fremen harass the Harkonnens for years and years using very effective measures and they can't even win nor can anyone do anything about them? No, that's moronic.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >So Paul and the Fremen harass the Harkonnens for years and years
          No. Paul trains the Fremen for years. And develops a relationship with Chani. That's how it is in the books already. Whether that takes 2 years or 4 or even 6, who cares?
          You know what's ridiculous? Making it so that all of that happens within a month or two, like Dennis Vileneuf did.

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    here is your alia, anon

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      can't even get the eyes right in an illustration

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Would.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Garbage game with shitty porn. Don't recommend.

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Who that child-ass homie?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      One of the most interesting characters from the novel

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Alia Atreides, daughter of Jessica and Duke Leto. Anya Taylor-Joy's character in Villeneuve's version.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The biggest bawd of the universe, and no, I'm not joking or speaking figuratively...

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Who would you guys have casted as The Emperor in DUNC (2024)? Mads would have been perfect in my eyes. But unfortunately hollywood hates him and he only gets shit parts in america

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      sauce?

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How much time has went by? Wasn't she already pregnant when the first movie ended? How the frick is she STILL pregnant at the end of this film? Did Paul do all this in like six months or something?

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Didn't need to be in the movie.
    The crazy thing is, she was in the movie.

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Didn't need to be in the movie.
    Well, if you settle for the "movie" to be complete trash, then, yeah, she doesn't need to be in it.

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    She's going to be in Part Three

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    should have been Prequel Yoda CGI

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Alia is cool and Paul is a gay

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Bookgays explain to me how the Fremen have tecnology and advanced guns If they live in caves?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >how do palestians have access to paragliders and rockets?
      >how do russians have access to cpus now?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Same way Central African warlords get stuff. They bribe smugglers and the Guild via their [s]diamond mines[/s] spice harvesting.

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Is it a midget?

  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >dude it's a child but like SUUUPER powerful and can kill loads of people isn't that so subversive
    Reddit anime garbage

  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Are the Brian Herbert books worth it?
    Or can I just ignore them? I am mostly interested in those two that seemingly "end" the saga.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I enjoyed the prequel trilogy and Butlerian Jihad trilogy as stand-alone books, they were rollicking space action and drama but they aren't very good Dune books.
      I never read their conclusion to the series but I never managed to get through Chapterhouse:Dune.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Everything I've read says they're shit. I read all teh frank books and skipped to chapterhouse and dropped it. This was 10yrs ago so i couldn't tell you why

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Looks fine to me
      Here's an actual recent pic of her right before the DUNC 2 premiere

      Bros, what does ayylmao pussy taste like?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Melange

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Are the Brian Herbert books worth it?
      No.
      But they're now filming one of those as a streaming exclusive series, because Villeneuve and the studio want to turn DUNC into a franchise. And DUNC includes Brian.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Is Dune Prophecy based on Brian's writing? I thought it was going to be 10k years in the future and during a timeline of instability in which gave rise to the Bene Gesserit and the Butlerian Jihad?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Is Dune Prophecy based on Brian's writing?
          Yes. But don't ask me what it's originally named.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      they aren't shit, they are UTTER shit. don't even acknowledge their existence

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I've bitten the bullet and wrote the synopsis for a supposedly "final" book in the mainline saga.
        >it's 50k years later and every single named character with a modicum of importance from Paul Atreides to fricking Thufir Hawat shows up as a ghola, so we give all of them a happy ending
        That sounds hacky as all frick.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >how it started: this book is based off of Frank Herbert's notes
      >how it's going: this book is based off a sticky note that said to write more Dune books

  44. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I cringed so hard when I got to this part of the book. Almost ruined the ending for me. I'm glad it was cut

  45. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    We getting a time skip for the third film for Alia?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      We're getting a timeskip in general, because Messiah starts 12 years after Dune, when Paul is done genociding everyone and terraforming Arrakis.

  46. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    After listening to a plot summary of the books there's no fricking way they'll make more than 3 movies. It's some perv shit later on

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Denis said he's stopping at Messiah, because there is too much weird shit later on.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Denis said he's stopping at Messiah, because there is too much weird shit later on.

        That's a negotiating tactic.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >adapts Dune
        >haha guys isn't this weird nerd shit so weird want more Zendaya??

        I HATE THIS WORLD.

  47. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Just got back from the kinoplex. NU DUNC pt 2 was excellent. you nerds lied to me. It was significantly better than lynch's (lynch's is only half a good film) and the deviations from the book weren't that problematic at all.
    Zendaya wasn't even that bad.

    Last time I listen to you jerk-offs about anything

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Not anyone else's problem that you have poor taste and low standards, anon.

  48. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >still no movie adaptation of count fenring

  49. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    most of you zoomer c**ts didn't even read the books before the villeneuve movie went into production.

  50. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the alia part in lynch's movie was incredibly clunky at best and it wasn't that important to the story.

  51. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >She later leapt to her death in defiance of the possession by the spirit of a younger Vladimir Harkonnen retained in her Other Memory.
    what

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It makes sense in the novel.
      Thanks to Jessica drinking the Water of Life while pregnant, Alia can now access the genetic memory of her ancestors, Assasin's Creed style.
      And it so happens that Baron Harkonnen is her grandfather. Whoops.

  52. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The worst part about being a Dune fan is keeping four or five different canons straight in your head.

    1) Frank's original six novels
    2) Brian's dumptruck of bullshit (some may choose to ignore these)
    3) The Lynch film and it's umpteen different edits
    4) the SyFy miniseries (six film-length episodes)
    5) The new Villain-Nuevo films.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There is only one canon: Frank Herbert's works. Nothing else matters.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You can completely ignore the Brian Herbert trash, and Villeneuve's bullshit as well, which is just as bad.
      As for Lynch and the mini-series, they barely change anything. Certainly not enough to demand a whole separate canon.

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