>Set foot on Mars >Realize the only reason you were even allowed to get there was because some ~~*politician*~~ decided someone with your skin color should be setting foot on Mars.
I wonder if that would be enough to drive someone mad?
The negress piloting the US ship was using her skin colour to get a command position earlier then b***hED when people suggested she received one due to being black on a later mission.
ships?
If you do what I do and zoom past the globohomosexual propaganda, the spaceship parts are pretty cool. Of course this also makes each episode 15 minutes long.
>The negress piloting the US ship was using her skin colour to get a command position earlier then b***hED when people suggested she received one due to being black on a later mission.
That's called doublethink and the media is rife with it. It's yet another form of the propaganda they indoctrinate you with.
True, but I am impervious to their propaganda after spending 15 years on /b/, /misc/ and here. I mean, after I was called a Black person, a homosexual and a Black person homosexual 100 times my first day on /b/ I developed a thick ass skin.
>True, but I am impervious to their propaganda after spending 15 years on /b/, /misc/ and here. I mean, after I was called a Black person, a homosexual and a Black person homosexual 100 times my first day on /b/ I developed a thick ass skin.
It's amazing how one can learn how to see through the propaganda at a glance. When I see movies and news articles I see exactly what the media is trying to get us to believe. It's pretty sickening and they need to be stopped, legally and constitutionally of course.
She had no right to get that upset at her long-time friend Ed Baldwin, a man who's had her back for well over a decade, who knows her like a sibling after their long stay at Jamestown together.
He wasn't even b***hing AT her, just commiserating on the state of things over a drink with an old friend. Frick her.
What the actual frick is this in the show? WHY? >Space ships?
Ed's wife Karen fricked her dead son's classmate when he came of age, then divorced Ed and now that kid is on Mars with Ed and he doesn't know it was he who fricked his wife.
I just wanted to see a cool alternate history of humans expanding into space on a better timeline than ours.
>Ed's wife Karen fricked her dead son's classmate when he came of age
If Ed was the one that fricked a female friend of his dead son twitter would be seething uncontrollably about how he's a groomer pedo piece of shit lol
>some ugly cuckolding story in a sci-fi show about space that undoubtedly takes up at least 1/3 of the runtime
I'd rather take a shit then stick my head in the toilet bowl and take a hearty whiff than have to sit through this feces. Also lol at the guy in OP. Not being racist, but blacks couldn't even comprehend the processes/manufacturing of making the fabric his clothes are made of, but now they're suddenly piloting starships? Lol
each movie is made by a different director. So because some other director uses a black astronaut, I can’t because muh statistics? It’s MY film, not his not yours
>Nogs don't have a single shred of self-awareness, anon.
While I'd generally agree, they'd have to be somehow intelligent to be allowed into the space program and since it's been announced that one of the goals of the moon program is to put the first "person of color" and "first woman" onto the moon, it certainly has to go through their head that the only reason they're in the running is due to their race/gender, right?
Like there'll be a group of people who have to work hard to qualify overall then there will be two other groups of people who will only have to work as hard as needed to qualify in that group. Like the black person won't have to do better than everyone else to earn their slot in the program, the black person will only have to do better than all the other black people to earn their slot in the program.
>except only the straight white guy is going crazy
I wouldn't know I'm not watching the show, whatever it is.
It would figure though, can't have the non-white characters look weak after all.
Suddenly he's got a pill problem, that came out of nowhere. Was that dextromethorphan I spotted him taking? That'll frick you up.
>Ed's wife Karen fricked her dead son's classmate when he came of age
If Ed was the one that fricked a female friend of his dead son twitter would be seething uncontrollably about how he's a groomer pedo piece of shit lol
Didn't Ed come close to cheating, only to back off at the last second because he's a man of integrity? Meanwhile Karen fricks a teenager and gets to be a big-shot CEO for it.
>I just wanted to see a cool alternate history of humans expanding into space on a better timeline than ours.
Kek this. I'm a sucker for anything that deals with parallel universes or alternate timelines.
Same, the first season was cool apart from the constant breaks to check in on Ellen's lesbian shenanigans. She was an absolute homewrecker when she went after her old GF and got the bartender chick to dump her current GF, what the shit was that?
>some ugly cuckolding story in a sci-fi show about space that undoubtedly takes up at least 1/3 of the runtime
I'd rather take a shit then stick my head in the toilet bowl and take a hearty whiff than have to sit through this feces. Also lol at the guy in OP. Not being racist, but blacks couldn't even comprehend the processes/manufacturing of making the fabric his clothes are made of, but now they're suddenly piloting starships? Lol
Ham the Space Chimp was able to be trained for spaceflight, it's probably only twice as hard to train up a black astronaut.
Except Victor Glover, he's a good one and hates all that "YAAAS BLACK ASTRONAUT, BRAVE AND BEAUTIFUL!" shit, he just wants to fly and do his work like any good astronaut should.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dextroamphetamine
I knew I saw "dextro" something last night when I watched. What would this shit be on the ship for? At least oxys have regular pain-management uses.
[...]
There's no need to take up a quarter of very episode with gay shit. No one cares, homosexuals don;t even care. People want fiction not every day normie shit,w e get that in our lives daily.
It's what killed Stargate Universe for me - episodes about lesbians, episodes about cripples, etc.
It almost made some sense for a while, when the angle was "1960s weren't gay-friendly", but now it's the oh-so-progressive 90s that's supposedly more advanced than our timeline, but they're still doing this don't-ask shit, and the President is secretly gay.
So predictions for the remaining episodes?
I thought the water would make a geyser and forma lake, wasn't expecting an earthquake. I think their lander is fricked now, so they'll have to fix either it or the Phoenix. Also, pill boy is gonna kys.
Yeah that lander is fricked, and the engine bells on the Phoenix are similarly fricked. You can't just bang together a rocket engine out of scrap parts and wing it, so idk how they're supposed to get off Mars now.
Maybe they'll be forced to stay until the next synod when rescue arrives? The ship in orbit may or may not stay out of solidarity, if that happens.
They'll land the Hotel ship and live in it, the colony will be permanent.
I am worried next season will be on Mars as well like we had 2 seasons for the Moon. I want the asteroid belt or even Jupiter.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>They'll land the Hotel ship
It was already a stretch of disbelief to think you could just bolt engines to the back of a structure designed only to orbit and fly it to Mars, if they actually bring it down into the Martian atmosphere that'd be just ludicrous. Imagine trying to land the ISS, there aren't any landing engines or parachutes or any of that shit. Getting down to Mars requires a lot of slowing down, there's no way that ship is capable of it. That doesn't mean they won't, the writers have already shown they don't give a frick about realism since the Phoenix is a FRICKING SSTO AND FRICKING SSTOS DO NOT WORK, THEY CAN'T WORK THEY ARE PURE FICTION WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?!
This fricking show was supposed to be for space enthusiasts yet keeps shitting all over us and throwing gay shit at the screen instead.
FRICK
2 years ago
Anonymous
>SSTO
Kek. Well, in their defence, it's only doing ti from the Moon and Mars.
You just be thankful they won't do something moronic like use the solar sails as parachutes. I saw it mentioned by someone as an idea...
2 years ago
Anonymous
there's an episode where they fly the nuclear space shuttle from the earth's atmosphere straight into space
2 years ago
Anonymous
Oh in the previous season... Pathfinder was it? Yeah that was smaller I guess, it was shuttle size basically.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Phoenix launched from the Moon. Pathfinder launched from Earth last season.
[...]
Pathfinder launched from the back of a big ass Boeing, not from the ground.
Oh right, I was misremembering. >space shuttle to lunar orbit >AIR LAUNCH
Frick's sake, show. No wonder I forgot about it, this shit drives me to drink. Do they even still use the Sea Dragon? They worked on that one scene and then we never see it again. I want to see Orion drives god dammit, if this show is supposed to be "what if we really pursued spaceflight starting from the Apollo era?" then Orion ships are conspicuously absent.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes! I am waiting for the Orion as well. Surely when they go Jupiter they will use something like it.
>this shit drives me to drink
lel
2 years ago
Anonymous
Oh in the previous season... Pathfinder was it? Yeah that was smaller I guess, it was shuttle size basically.
Pathfinder launched from the back of a big ass Boeing, not from the ground.
2 years ago
Anonymous
doesn't make much of a difference, the speed a boeing flies at is negligible compared to the speed you need to reach orbit, let alone escape earth's gravity to fly to the moon
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes, but it flies above a lot of atmosphere and it can use more efficient engines to get to orbit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>more efficient engines
This is where the handwavium is.
2 years ago
Anonymous
They're nuclear engines anon.
2 years ago
Anonymous
They boil water to steam and the steam pushes the ship?
2 years ago
Anonymous
lol that makes more sense.
[...]
And the hull is unobtanium-infused adamantium coated in vibranium.
Liquid hydrogen, but yes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NERVA
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not quite. It's based on the NERVA engine. Might even be explicitly called out, I can't remember. It caries liquid hydrogen (like a lot of NASA's rockets). However, instead of using a combustion to create thrust, it passes the H2 through a nuclear reactor which transmits a LOT of heat to the H2. Then it gets let out the back, creating thrust.
lol that makes more sense.
[...]
And the hull is unobtanium-infused adamantium coated in vibranium.
If you don't understand the concept, that's fine. The show's not for everyone.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I understand it, it's just not real. It may become real, possibly, but currently isn't. Hypergolics are real, I've seem them down at Stennis, all F.A.M. says is that they have a nuclear reactor and some hydrogen and somehow that becomes the NERVA. It's not that easy in rocketry.
I thought they would be le bad right wing terrorists, but they just wanted to get him the statues
What's with them saying "that didn't happen" in regards to Tracey and Gordo's sacrifice? I feel like I missed a scene there.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't understand you. They built NERVA in real life, they tested it in real life, it worked. Why are you having so much trouble with it being in the show.
2 years ago
Anonymous
They seem to be into conspiracy stuff and think the official story is fake. Which it unironically is, because of the second secret reactor, but they don't know that and go all the way to "Gordo and Tracy didn't die the way it was reported".
2 years ago
Anonymous
they're le alt right trump antivaxers, it's not exactly subtle
2 years ago
Anonymous
They seem to be into conspiracy stuff and think the official story is fake. Which it unironically is, because of the second secret reactor, but they don't know that and go all the way to "Gordo and Tracy didn't die the way it was reported".
Why did Gordo and Tracy die btw? Did they fail the pressurize the hatch when they got back or pressurized it, but died form their wounds?
2 years ago
Anonymous
They were exposed to solar radiation with no shielding. They were dead as soon as they set foot outside.
2 years ago
Anonymous
lol, Molly was outside during the worst solar storm in history for over an hour and only got blind, 15 seconds is nothing
2 years ago
Anonymous
I thought the bootleg Mexican medical treatment is what blinded her.
2 years ago
Anonymous
She never did it, she came back to her husband. Stop watching it on the second monitor 😛
2 years ago
Anonymous
But I'm playing KSP on the main one
2 years ago
Anonymous
Fair enough, carry on.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Molly was outside during the worst solar storm in history for over an hour
.....in a space suit
2 years ago
Anonymous
radiation isn't actually the big boogeyman you think it is
they died from the trauma of hard vacuum
their lungs were probably fricked in addition to heavy bleeding
2 years ago
Anonymous
Probably just hemorrhaged too much, they got back in and repressurised as far as I remember but they probably bled out
2 years ago
Anonymous
i was just assuming their lungs got destroyed by the vacuum
2 years ago
Anonymous
why didn't they use the nuclear engines to create a wormhole straight to mars?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>but it flies above a lot of atmosphere
at around 10km while the von karman line is at around 100km and the ISS at 400
2 years ago
Anonymous
Didn't they launch Phoenix from Earth? I might have to go back and check I have a habit of only putting the show on when I'm already drunk. >solar sail parachutes
Why don't they just perform reentry on a piece of space junk then jump at the last moment before they hit the ground so they can tuck 'n roll? It's just as realistic.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Phoenix was constructed in orbit
2 years ago
Anonymous
Phoenix launched from the Moon. Pathfinder launched from Earth last season.
This show is actually good though they've leaned into the character drama too heavily recently. But a lot of the character drama in the earlier seasons was great even if it's about subjects that makes Cinemaphile seethe
There's no need to take up a quarter of very episode with gay shit. No one cares, homosexuals don;t even care. People want fiction not every day normie shit,w e get that in our lives daily.
It's what killed Stargate Universe for me - episodes about lesbians, episodes about cripples, etc.
> Let us have faith in Abraham Lincoln's words, "That right makes might. And in that faith, let us, to the end, dare to do our duty as we understand it." Thank you. God bless you, and God bless America.
They're using it as a gunship anon. Doing anything other than what they're doing wouldn't make sense. Why are you in this thread if you don't watch the show? Do you get a sexual thrill from having your autism triggered?
Other than standing on the back of it, it's not moving in a parabola.
Holy captcha!
2 years ago
Anonymous
Of course it's not moving in a parabola, it's using its main booster to counter the gravity and using its RCS to propel it along.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Which is 100% moronic. It wouldn't have enough fuel to do that for any length of time.
It's almost worse than an air-launched nuclear shuttle that can get to the moon without having an actual fuel tank.
2 years ago
Anonymous
OK, run me out some back-of-napkin calculations on fuel consumption of a lander on the moon moving laterally. If you are going to be this autistic I demand you back it up.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Alright.
According to the SENPAI wiki the LSAM is a hydrogen fueled version of the LEM. It’s probably using a derivative of the RL-10 engine because that engine is a prostitute that’ll attach itself to just about any spacecraft design. The RL-10 drinks between 20-70 kg of propellant per second depending on the specific version and the LSAM has four of them, so that’s 80-280 kg/s. It's also not using one of the fuel effect versions with the huge engine bells so I’m betting the drink rate will be towards the upper end of that range.
The scene in question has the LSAM in flight for ~145 seconds, during which it would burn through 2,900-10,150 kg of propellant. The scene also starts with it already in motion, but whatever. It’d burn roughly 3-10 tons of prop from the beginning of the scene to the landing.
The RL-10 also has a fuel to oxidizer ratio of 5.5, which would give the overall propellant mix a density of 344 kg/m3. LH2 has a density of 70 kg/m3 and LOX is 1141 kg/m3; plugging all that into https://rechneronline.de/material/mix-density.php gets us 344 overall.
So! That means that the LSAM (roughly) would burn through 8.4m3 to 29.5m3 of propellant during the scene in question, which isn’t nearly as bad as I thought it would be. That’d fit into a cube that’s only 2-3 meters to a side... but the LSAM didn’t start the scene launching, it didn’t land with bingo fuel, and I’m expecting that the Moon Marines aren’t going to want to walk home at the end of this. The real question is if you think you can fit enough fuel tank volume for the mission into what is really just a modded Apollo LEM model with extra engines stuck on the bottom. The LEM just ain’t that big.
2 years ago
Anonymous
What in the hell are you doing on Cinemaphile if you can even do rudimentary rocket math?
You're not browsing for cute girl pictures to save are you?!
2 years ago
Anonymous
Do not project yourself into others.
No ones fault you focus only on baits and moronic posts.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Well, no one on Cinemaphile is here because they like television.
How could one? After all you learn on this site?
I'm here because I like to get mad, I think.
2 years ago
Anonymous
OK
2 years ago
Anonymous
they're trying to avoid russian radar, running the main engines just hard enough to counter gravity and staying close to the deck makes perfect sense.
[...] >assuming the engine type >assuming it's at full thrust >assuming, assuming that >so many words to be an idiot
all you need to know is that the moons gravitational acceleration is about 1.26m/s2.
145s*1.26m/s2 = 183m/s of dV.
with modestly efficent (420s) hydrogen engines that would be burning about 4.5% of their weight in fuel. >The real question is if you think you can fit enough fuel tank volume for the mission into what is really just a modded Apollo LEM model
the lem lower stage had enough dV to land on the moon moron. also it's not just a modded lem - it might look similar superficially but it's far larger and meant for different missions: it's shown ferrying shit from orbit down to the moon - that means it has a few km/s of dV at least.
tl;dr you said something stupid to show off that ksp expertise of yours and now you're just digging yourself deeper.
2deep4me
2 years ago
Anonymous
no it's not.
notice how the spaceship in that webm hovers over the surface of the moon?
he said that was stupid because if you wanted use as little fuel as possible to fly from point a to point b on the moon you would just burn your engines at full thrust - launching yourself high up - and then turn them off and fall back towards the moon - of course using your engines to kill your velocity before you hit it. basically you'd fly in a rainbow shape over the moon and not use your engines to hoover.
what he forgot or didn't know was that they purposefully flew like that because using the fuel efficient method would mean they'd fly up pretty high - and they want to avoid being seen by russian radar. what they did was constantly fire their engines - at low thrust - just enough to cancel out the downward pull of the moons gravity. plus some sideways velocity - achieved by angling slightly towards their target to actually move laterally.
when called out on that he tried to prove that the spaceship couldn't possibly have enough fuel to do that. he did that by assuming the engine type, assuming the weight and fuel capacity and assuming the engines are firing full tilt - which makes no sense since that same spaceship is shown repeatably going into orbit around the moon to pick up personnel from shuttles: if the engines were only strong enough to just barely counter the moons gravity, how the frick would they get into orbit?
in fact the amount of fuel needed to do what is shown is comically small since the moons gravity is pretty weak. even just a casual look at the thing (with convenient people for scale) shows that it can have about 4-4.5km/s of dV - which is also what it'd need to ferry people from orbit and about 20 times what would be needed for this stunt.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>what he forgot or didn't know
It was "didn't know." My only interaction with the show prior to this was random webms posted over on /sfg/. Flying like that to stay under the radar does make sense, but the real question is if the vehicle depicted could actually carry enough fuel to do the things it's shown doing.
>when called out
lol
>assuming the engine type
The actual LSAM design used RL10s, and they’ve been the only hydrogen engine in their weight class anyone in America has ever bothered to think about using. When given the choice to design a new small hydrolox engine or just give Aerojet a big pile of money for another RL10 variant, we have always chosen the latter option. The ones in the show even look like RL-10As.
>assuming the weight and fuel capacity
I didn’t assume anything about the weight, just if the vehicle could hold enough fuel to do what its shown doing, using the most accurate figures I has quick access to.
>assuming the engines are firing full tilt
That’s a very good point. 4x RL10s would put out (roughly! assuming!) 10x the thrust of the LEM decent engine, so you would have to throttle them way back if you wanted hovering, which makes the whole idea a lot more plausible.
>since that same spaceship is shown repeatably going into orbit around the moon
Saying "we saw them doing it in the show so it must be possible" isn't really a good argument for anything. This is the same show that air-launched a shuttle to the moon without a fuel tank. It's not known for focusing on hard scientific accuracy when it could be dwelling on telenovela drama.
2 years ago
Anonymous
References please, along with list of constants used, and for a small bonus you could include an annotated bibliography. Be sure to use the appropriate academic language, qualify your statements, and avoid all opinions and subjective declarations. Also, please use APA referencing and don't you dare submit in anything other than double spacing, using Times New Roman.
2 years ago
Anonymous
they're trying to avoid russian radar, running the main engines just hard enough to counter gravity and staying close to the deck makes perfect sense.
Alright.
According to the SENPAI wiki the LSAM is a hydrogen fueled version of the LEM. It’s probably using a derivative of the RL-10 engine because that engine is a prostitute that’ll attach itself to just about any spacecraft design. The RL-10 drinks between 20-70 kg of propellant per second depending on the specific version and the LSAM has four of them, so that’s 80-280 kg/s. It's also not using one of the fuel effect versions with the huge engine bells so I’m betting the drink rate will be towards the upper end of that range.
The scene in question has the LSAM in flight for ~145 seconds, during which it would burn through 2,900-10,150 kg of propellant. The scene also starts with it already in motion, but whatever. It’d burn roughly 3-10 tons of prop from the beginning of the scene to the landing.
The RL-10 also has a fuel to oxidizer ratio of 5.5, which would give the overall propellant mix a density of 344 kg/m3. LH2 has a density of 70 kg/m3 and LOX is 1141 kg/m3; plugging all that into https://rechneronline.de/material/mix-density.php gets us 344 overall.
So! That means that the LSAM (roughly) would burn through 8.4m3 to 29.5m3 of propellant during the scene in question, which isn’t nearly as bad as I thought it would be. That’d fit into a cube that’s only 2-3 meters to a side... but the LSAM didn’t start the scene launching, it didn’t land with bingo fuel, and I’m expecting that the Moon Marines aren’t going to want to walk home at the end of this. The real question is if you think you can fit enough fuel tank volume for the mission into what is really just a modded Apollo LEM model with extra engines stuck on the bottom. The LEM just ain’t that big.
>assuming the engine type >assuming it's at full thrust >assuming, assuming that >so many words to be an idiot
all you need to know is that the moons gravitational acceleration is about 1.26m/s2.
145s*1.26m/s2 = 183m/s of dV.
with modestly efficent (420s) hydrogen engines that would be burning about 4.5% of their weight in fuel. >The real question is if you think you can fit enough fuel tank volume for the mission into what is really just a modded Apollo LEM model
the lem lower stage had enough dV to land on the moon moron. also it's not just a modded lem - it might look similar superficially but it's far larger and meant for different missions: it's shown ferrying shit from orbit down to the moon - that means it has a few km/s of dV at least.
tl;dr you said something stupid to show off that ksp expertise of yours and now you're just digging yourself deeper.
>All they had to fricking do was boot up Kerbal Space Program ONE TIME to make that not look fricking stupid.
That exact movement is definitely doable in KSP though.
open the game and do it right now homosexual. you just use enough to thrust to cancel vertical speed (aka hovering" and then use some other thrust or a slight tilt to move horizontally.
>Was that dextromethorphan I spotted him taking? That'll frick you up.
What are you talking about? All it does is give you robowalking and disso hole if you take enough.
>I started pointing it out to my famil6t and friends years ago. At some point they started noticing it on their own kek. My mom is getting annoyed how ever commercial has a Black person or a father who is incompetent.
I've tried with my family and while they're sick of the homosexual inclusion they mostly remain blind to it. Like they just see it as entertainment with a liberal bent. Certainly do not the subversion is really is.
It's a shame, really. Cause that means the normies with no access to redpilling absolutely refuse to see it for what it really is.
This show is actually good though they've leaned into the character drama too heavily recently. But a lot of the character drama in the earlier seasons was great even if it's about subjects that makes Cinemaphile seethe
>I rather humanity to end up staying and dying on Earth than having a baboon be the first man on Mars. If anything fly them to the moon.
The first persyn on Mars will be a Muslim trans wymyn of color and you know it.
I thought the water would make a geyser and forma lake, wasn't expecting an earthquake. I think their lander is fricked now, so they'll have to fix either it or the Phoenix. Also, pill boy is gonna kys.
I can imagine the CIA intern tasked with analyzing Cinemaphile threads scratching his head over this post, OP. We on our way to developing our own language.
>it's yet another dumb cliffhanger
last time it were two ships crashing into eachother with crushed astronauts and meltdowns and shit and the next episode starts with a space funeral
>you will live long enough to see a democrat president decree that the first mission to mars be staffed by nothing but black people they fast track through regulations and requirements, dooming everything.
meh, I liked the scene. he was the only one displaying genuine wonder. and he trolled the whole world by coming out in space. unironically one of my favorite characters this season.
What's his name? I can't name any of these newer characters, I don't even know who died a couple episodes back. Who was the gay with the robot dog? What's the name of the Russian who's banging Ed's adopted daughter?
these plus margo, sergei, aleida, pam, kelly, danny, danielle, karen, molly I can name... basically characters who have been in the centre for multiple seasons.
I thought I'd end up hating Aleida a lot more than I do now, at first she was insufferable and now she's trying to sniff out Margo's extremely illegal leaks.
Scot Manley did some calcs and said it might work for a couple minutes even, if you use a lot of duct tape and face masks that can keep some low pressure.
Scot Manley did some calcs and said it might work for a couple minutes even, if you use a lot of duct tape and face masks that can keep some low pressure.
Sure, but it's not realistic and the show was supposed to be going for realism.
That is the dumbest looking "serious" space suit I can remember seeing, and I've seen quite a few early scifi movies that wanted to be serious. Even these Jetson's looking motherfrickers seem to be somehow (if only due of the context of innocence) less moronic.
>Really wonder how it would go down in real life.
Do you about China? remember:
“socialism with Chinese characteristics” by the country's leader, Xi Jinping
the stevens brothers look creepy. like, they chose some manlets who would maybe kinds pass as some teenagers. except after 10 year time skip they're still weird looking manlets
Not a chance. Just using him for her (ex marine bf's) means. He's just the way to get into the building.
>but it flies above a lot of atmosphere
at around 10km while the von karman line is at around 100km and the ISS at 400
Right, it's not released in space. However, the atmospheric density drops off exponentially. Being able to cut off the biggest waste of fuel (atmospheric + gravity losses) means you can get away with a smaller ship. Especially since the show has refueling capabilities.
Is this really large enough for 6 astronauts to not bash their heads in at some point? They need bunks of adequate size, training facilities to combat the effects of zero gravity, food and water, a little privacy since it's 6+ months.
Cinemaphile is probably walking a very thin line and the wrong incident will get it taken down. so they gotta make it look like they're at least attempting to stop un-p.c. beliefs on boards other than /misc/ and /b/.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The reality is, only power-hungry troons apply to be jannies because they want to subvert this site.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>The reality is, only power-hungry troons apply to be jannies because they want to subvert this site.
and what sucks is that the people who's moderate this site for the better are the ones they'd never let be mods.
Indeed, what a great fricking shot.
You've got a design evolution of the US Shuttle, and the Russian Vostok. And they aren't hidden by CGI smoke and Avid-blips like so much superhero imagery we see. It's just a focus on design, engineering and clarity of space. Just iconic.
I doubt the USSR survives another season. They're gonna implode and be replaced by the Chinese. It's been confirmed in-universe that they're fricking over their technical capabilities.
That's dumb. If the USSR survived into the 1990s it would be dumb to kill it in a couple years. I guess the Chink would pay Apple to put them in the show.
I don't think the USSR in their timeline is in a good place. Yeah Communism has spread much more than OTL. However, they're being forced to take other people (like the Cubana) and Roscosmos couldn't crack the nuclear engines. Meanwhile NASA has been using them for 20ish years. In addition to that, the US is transitioning to a nuclear power (Dev's company made big bucks off He3 fusion).
2 years ago
Anonymous
>However, they're being forced to take other people (like the Cubana) and Roscosmos couldn't crack the nuclear engines. Meanwhile NASA has been using them for 20ish years.
It would be nice if Margo escape to the CCCP, a nice touch, similar that all propaganda about people who fly to the west
Soap opera with lip service to sci-fi.
Haven’t felt so fricking misled about a show in a long time, but I knew exactly what I was in for when ep 1 was about 80% personal drama. Started looking up the synopses of later episodes and it just got worse and worse. Dropped.
Don’t even start man, I’m not joking. It sucks so bad. It’s literally a melodrama that occasionally remembers it’s supposed to be sci-fi.
Read the synopses on Wikipedia for lines like: >On the ground, Tracy announces her marriage to financier Sam Cleveland on live TV, blindsiding her ex-husband Gordo. >Kelly investigates her birth parents, while on the Moon >It is now 1992. Karen and Ed have divorced, and Karen is launching an orbital space hotel
Please let there be life in space.
Let them doom us if one black foot steps on Mars.
Personally, although I'm no climate alarmist, I think we'll run out of enough oil to do anything meaningful in space before we're left with enough for important machines and we all live in some sort of high Victorian era living for the next thousands of years before we all die and in 70,000,000 years the next species that evolves will have to use our bodies as fuel to try again.
I know. Our nearest star is a trinary system so that automatically cancels that system out. Most systems have multiple stars. Some have like 11 stars.
That's why all one can do is hope.
And if there is nobody will ever meet because FTL doesn't real.
And even if they were real, they won't be anywhere near us in technology. Just think about 100 years ago. They would possibly be millions of years ahead of us.
They could shove Charon up your nose from Pluto and you'd never find out about it.
Any form of intelligence that could live for centuries on something like electricity alone is impossible lol.
Else we would have this all over the galaxy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-replicating_spacecraft
Who knows what would happen even to our best shielded microchips when they actually leave the solar system, not just the magnetosphere of the sun, maybe there's a really dense sphere of radiation or plasma that will fry it up entirely and that's the case with all star systems, but then we witness none of this either, or moved stars or w/e https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrioshka_brain
That would make even less sense, meat is not efficient with energy at all.
I'm saying that in almost no scenario we'll ever leave our solar system.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>tfw born just in time to realize exploration is over
I guess we'll just have to get extra violent on this planet to make up for the loss.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I was in another thread on /sffg/ where they talked about us possibly being the first space faring race.
I'm sure some books cover that. Rendezvous with Rama, being the most popular (and great).
2 years ago
Anonymous
why is that, moron-kun
I say we'll leave the solar system because people will decide they want to do it and carry it out
2 years ago
Anonymous
Based mentally handicapped talmudivison enthusiast.
Bet you say the Matrix and now you believe humans are the best batteries.
Also >le infinite progress >le humanitarianism
walking meme
the problem with zebras wasn't because they couldn't be domesticated, it was because they're violent morons that totally lack family dynamics
any attempt to domesticate them is extremely resource intensive and would have required an unrealistically and prohibitively large investment to make work and break even on
Their European cousins are superior in every conceivable way, and that's why they prospered
lmfao
lel
Sick reference, bro
>space of aids
Meanwhile in reality
>WE WAZ KANGS
THE SPACE OF AIDS
THE SPACE OF AIDS
THE SPACE OF AIDS
THE SPACE OF AIDS
they made it true
LITERALLY, fricking clown world man
don't compare modern turds with this absolute kïnögraphíè
heretic
>Set foot on Mars
>Realize the only reason you were even allowed to get there was because some ~~*politician*~~ decided someone with your skin color should be setting foot on Mars.
I wonder if that would be enough to drive someone mad?
The negress piloting the US ship was using her skin colour to get a command position earlier then b***hED when people suggested she received one due to being black on a later mission.
What the actual frick is this in the show? WHY?
>Space ships?
israeli producers and virtue signaling leftist staff on all shows, welcome to current year
ships?
If you do what I do and zoom past the globohomosexual propaganda, the spaceship parts are pretty cool. Of course this also makes each episode 15 minutes long.
>The negress piloting the US ship was using her skin colour to get a command position earlier then b***hED when people suggested she received one due to being black on a later mission.
That's called doublethink and the media is rife with it. It's yet another form of the propaganda they indoctrinate you with.
True, but I am impervious to their propaganda after spending 15 years on /b/, /misc/ and here. I mean, after I was called a Black person, a homosexual and a Black person homosexual 100 times my first day on /b/ I developed a thick ass skin.
>True, but I am impervious to their propaganda after spending 15 years on /b/, /misc/ and here. I mean, after I was called a Black person, a homosexual and a Black person homosexual 100 times my first day on /b/ I developed a thick ass skin.
It's amazing how one can learn how to see through the propaganda at a glance. When I see movies and news articles I see exactly what the media is trying to get us to believe. It's pretty sickening and they need to be stopped, legally and constitutionally of course.
Legally and constitutionally is the same thing as the thing you were thinking quietly.
She had no right to get that upset at her long-time friend Ed Baldwin, a man who's had her back for well over a decade, who knows her like a sibling after their long stay at Jamestown together.
He wasn't even b***hing AT her, just commiserating on the state of things over a drink with an old friend. Frick her.
Ed's wife Karen fricked her dead son's classmate when he came of age, then divorced Ed and now that kid is on Mars with Ed and he doesn't know it was he who fricked his wife.
I just wanted to see a cool alternate history of humans expanding into space on a better timeline than ours.
>Ed's wife Karen fricked her dead son's classmate when he came of age
If Ed was the one that fricked a female friend of his dead son twitter would be seething uncontrollably about how he's a groomer pedo piece of shit lol
Amazing how that word only started getting thrown around in earnest once the literal homosexual groomers got called out
>I just wanted to see a cool alternate history of humans expanding into space on a better timeline than ours.
Kek this. I'm a sucker for anything that deals with parallel universes or alternate timelines.
>some ugly cuckolding story in a sci-fi show about space that undoubtedly takes up at least 1/3 of the runtime
I'd rather take a shit then stick my head in the toilet bowl and take a hearty whiff than have to sit through this feces. Also lol at the guy in OP. Not being racist, but blacks couldn't even comprehend the processes/manufacturing of making the fabric his clothes are made of, but now they're suddenly piloting starships? Lol
>two of your friends and crewmembers die in a space accident
>Danielle:
oh ffs
my sides, toothless prostitutes
>Russian ship springs a leak and starts rolling uncontrollable putting entire mission at risk
lel, at least that bit was realistic
Why are black astronauts so common in film? In the history of NASA there have been 500 astronauts and only 15 of them have been black.
so it’s plausible then
That's 3% but there's almost always one token black astronaut every space movie.
each movie is made by a different director. So because some other director uses a black astronaut, I can’t because muh statistics? It’s MY film, not his not yours
That sounds very pathetic.
>Why are black astronauts so common in film?
fiction
Yes but the 13% -> 50% all because the ~~*2%*~~
>Why are black astronauts so common in film?
The media's indoctrination of you.
Jews
because it isn't real moron
>Nogs don't have a single shred of self-awareness, anon.
While I'd generally agree, they'd have to be somehow intelligent to be allowed into the space program and since it's been announced that one of the goals of the moon program is to put the first "person of color" and "first woman" onto the moon, it certainly has to go through their head that the only reason they're in the running is due to their race/gender, right?
Like there'll be a group of people who have to work hard to qualify overall then there will be two other groups of people who will only have to work as hard as needed to qualify in that group. Like the black person won't have to do better than everyone else to earn their slot in the program, the black person will only have to do better than all the other black people to earn their slot in the program.
Knowing that could drive a person batty.
except only the straight white guy is going crazy
>except only the straight white guy is going crazy
I wouldn't know I'm not watching the show, whatever it is.
It would figure though, can't have the non-white characters look weak after all.
>I don't watch the show, I'm just here to sperg.
It's all so tiresome.
Suddenly he's got a pill problem, that came out of nowhere. Was that dextromethorphan I spotted him taking? That'll frick you up.
Didn't Ed come close to cheating, only to back off at the last second because he's a man of integrity? Meanwhile Karen fricks a teenager and gets to be a big-shot CEO for it.
Same, the first season was cool apart from the constant breaks to check in on Ellen's lesbian shenanigans. She was an absolute homewrecker when she went after her old GF and got the bartender chick to dump her current GF, what the shit was that?
Ham the Space Chimp was able to be trained for spaceflight, it's probably only twice as hard to train up a black astronaut.
Except Victor Glover, he's a good one and hates all that "YAAAS BLACK ASTRONAUT, BRAVE AND BEAUTIFUL!" shit, he just wants to fly and do his work like any good astronaut should.
he is taking 2 or 3 out of these
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dextroamphetamine
I knew I saw "dextro" something last night when I watched. What would this shit be on the ship for? At least oxys have regular pain-management uses.
It almost made some sense for a while, when the angle was "1960s weren't gay-friendly", but now it's the oh-so-progressive 90s that's supposedly more advanced than our timeline, but they're still doing this don't-ask shit, and the President is secretly gay.
Yeah that lander is fricked, and the engine bells on the Phoenix are similarly fricked. You can't just bang together a rocket engine out of scrap parts and wing it, so idk how they're supposed to get off Mars now.
Maybe they'll be forced to stay until the next synod when rescue arrives? The ship in orbit may or may not stay out of solidarity, if that happens.
Wiki has interesting uses for it. Performance enhancer could be useful in a high stress environment like space.
They'll land the Hotel ship and live in it, the colony will be permanent.
I am worried next season will be on Mars as well like we had 2 seasons for the Moon. I want the asteroid belt or even Jupiter.
>They'll land the Hotel ship
It was already a stretch of disbelief to think you could just bolt engines to the back of a structure designed only to orbit and fly it to Mars, if they actually bring it down into the Martian atmosphere that'd be just ludicrous. Imagine trying to land the ISS, there aren't any landing engines or parachutes or any of that shit. Getting down to Mars requires a lot of slowing down, there's no way that ship is capable of it. That doesn't mean they won't, the writers have already shown they don't give a frick about realism since the Phoenix is a FRICKING SSTO AND FRICKING SSTOS DO NOT WORK, THEY CAN'T WORK THEY ARE PURE FICTION WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?!
This fricking show was supposed to be for space enthusiasts yet keeps shitting all over us and throwing gay shit at the screen instead.
FRICK
>SSTO
Kek. Well, in their defence, it's only doing ti from the Moon and Mars.
You just be thankful they won't do something moronic like use the solar sails as parachutes. I saw it mentioned by someone as an idea...
there's an episode where they fly the nuclear space shuttle from the earth's atmosphere straight into space
Oh in the previous season... Pathfinder was it? Yeah that was smaller I guess, it was shuttle size basically.
Oh right, I was misremembering.
>space shuttle to lunar orbit
>AIR LAUNCH
Frick's sake, show. No wonder I forgot about it, this shit drives me to drink. Do they even still use the Sea Dragon? They worked on that one scene and then we never see it again. I want to see Orion drives god dammit, if this show is supposed to be "what if we really pursued spaceflight starting from the Apollo era?" then Orion ships are conspicuously absent.
Yes! I am waiting for the Orion as well. Surely when they go Jupiter they will use something like it.
>this shit drives me to drink
lel
Pathfinder launched from the back of a big ass Boeing, not from the ground.
doesn't make much of a difference, the speed a boeing flies at is negligible compared to the speed you need to reach orbit, let alone escape earth's gravity to fly to the moon
Yes, but it flies above a lot of atmosphere and it can use more efficient engines to get to orbit.
>more efficient engines
This is where the handwavium is.
They're nuclear engines anon.
They boil water to steam and the steam pushes the ship?
Liquid hydrogen, but yes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NERVA
Not quite. It's based on the NERVA engine. Might even be explicitly called out, I can't remember. It caries liquid hydrogen (like a lot of NASA's rockets). However, instead of using a combustion to create thrust, it passes the H2 through a nuclear reactor which transmits a LOT of heat to the H2. Then it gets let out the back, creating thrust.
If you don't understand the concept, that's fine. The show's not for everyone.
I understand it, it's just not real. It may become real, possibly, but currently isn't. Hypergolics are real, I've seem them down at Stennis, all F.A.M. says is that they have a nuclear reactor and some hydrogen and somehow that becomes the NERVA. It's not that easy in rocketry.
What's with them saying "that didn't happen" in regards to Tracey and Gordo's sacrifice? I feel like I missed a scene there.
I don't understand you. They built NERVA in real life, they tested it in real life, it worked. Why are you having so much trouble with it being in the show.
They seem to be into conspiracy stuff and think the official story is fake. Which it unironically is, because of the second secret reactor, but they don't know that and go all the way to "Gordo and Tracy didn't die the way it was reported".
they're le alt right trump antivaxers, it's not exactly subtle
Why did Gordo and Tracy die btw? Did they fail the pressurize the hatch when they got back or pressurized it, but died form their wounds?
They were exposed to solar radiation with no shielding. They were dead as soon as they set foot outside.
lol, Molly was outside during the worst solar storm in history for over an hour and only got blind, 15 seconds is nothing
I thought the bootleg Mexican medical treatment is what blinded her.
She never did it, she came back to her husband. Stop watching it on the second monitor 😛
But I'm playing KSP on the main one
Fair enough, carry on.
>Molly was outside during the worst solar storm in history for over an hour
.....in a space suit
radiation isn't actually the big boogeyman you think it is
they died from the trauma of hard vacuum
their lungs were probably fricked in addition to heavy bleeding
Probably just hemorrhaged too much, they got back in and repressurised as far as I remember but they probably bled out
i was just assuming their lungs got destroyed by the vacuum
why didn't they use the nuclear engines to create a wormhole straight to mars?
>but it flies above a lot of atmosphere
at around 10km while the von karman line is at around 100km and the ISS at 400
Didn't they launch Phoenix from Earth? I might have to go back and check I have a habit of only putting the show on when I'm already drunk.
>solar sail parachutes
Why don't they just perform reentry on a piece of space junk then jump at the last moment before they hit the ground so they can tuck 'n roll? It's just as realistic.
Phoenix was constructed in orbit
Phoenix launched from the Moon. Pathfinder launched from Earth last season.
>What would this shit be on the ship for?
When you need a person to work at 90% capacity for 10 days without sleep if needed. Perfectly reasonable.
>vlc
hahahaha homosexual
eat shit, vlc is great
There's no need to take up a quarter of very episode with gay shit. No one cares, homosexuals don;t even care. People want fiction not every day normie shit,w e get that in our lives daily.
It's what killed Stargate Universe for me - episodes about lesbians, episodes about cripples, etc.
> Let us have faith in Abraham Lincoln's words, "That right makes might. And in that faith, let us, to the end, dare to do our duty as we understand it." Thank you. God bless you, and God bless America.
Why the frick are they "flying" a moon lander like a typical plane? Use the boosters homosexuals
They're using it as a gunship anon. Doing anything other than what they're doing wouldn't make sense. Why are you in this thread if you don't watch the show? Do you get a sexual thrill from having your autism triggered?
Yes my autism is triggered that's fricking moronic
Why?
this show looks kino as frick but I already spoiled everything for myself by searching out every existing youtube clip
>he's a good one
Stop pretending to not be racist.
Why would I need to pretend? I dislike most of them, but some individuals rise above and are therefore pretty cool.
All they had to fricking do was boot up Kerbal Space Program ONE TIME to make that not look fricking stupid.
Holy shit.
What about it looks stupid?
Other than standing on the back of it, it's not moving in a parabola.
Holy captcha!
Of course it's not moving in a parabola, it's using its main booster to counter the gravity and using its RCS to propel it along.
Which is 100% moronic. It wouldn't have enough fuel to do that for any length of time.
It's almost worse than an air-launched nuclear shuttle that can get to the moon without having an actual fuel tank.
OK, run me out some back-of-napkin calculations on fuel consumption of a lander on the moon moving laterally. If you are going to be this autistic I demand you back it up.
Alright.
According to the SENPAI wiki the LSAM is a hydrogen fueled version of the LEM. It’s probably using a derivative of the RL-10 engine because that engine is a prostitute that’ll attach itself to just about any spacecraft design. The RL-10 drinks between 20-70 kg of propellant per second depending on the specific version and the LSAM has four of them, so that’s 80-280 kg/s. It's also not using one of the fuel effect versions with the huge engine bells so I’m betting the drink rate will be towards the upper end of that range.
The scene in question has the LSAM in flight for ~145 seconds, during which it would burn through 2,900-10,150 kg of propellant. The scene also starts with it already in motion, but whatever. It’d burn roughly 3-10 tons of prop from the beginning of the scene to the landing.
The RL-10 also has a fuel to oxidizer ratio of 5.5, which would give the overall propellant mix a density of 344 kg/m3. LH2 has a density of 70 kg/m3 and LOX is 1141 kg/m3; plugging all that into https://rechneronline.de/material/mix-density.php gets us 344 overall.
So! That means that the LSAM (roughly) would burn through 8.4m3 to 29.5m3 of propellant during the scene in question, which isn’t nearly as bad as I thought it would be. That’d fit into a cube that’s only 2-3 meters to a side... but the LSAM didn’t start the scene launching, it didn’t land with bingo fuel, and I’m expecting that the Moon Marines aren’t going to want to walk home at the end of this. The real question is if you think you can fit enough fuel tank volume for the mission into what is really just a modded Apollo LEM model with extra engines stuck on the bottom. The LEM just ain’t that big.
What in the hell are you doing on Cinemaphile if you can even do rudimentary rocket math?
You're not browsing for cute girl pictures to save are you?!
Do not project yourself into others.
No ones fault you focus only on baits and moronic posts.
Well, no one on Cinemaphile is here because they like television.
How could one? After all you learn on this site?
I'm here because I like to get mad, I think.
OK
2deep4me
no it's not.
notice how the spaceship in that webm hovers over the surface of the moon?
he said that was stupid because if you wanted use as little fuel as possible to fly from point a to point b on the moon you would just burn your engines at full thrust - launching yourself high up - and then turn them off and fall back towards the moon - of course using your engines to kill your velocity before you hit it. basically you'd fly in a rainbow shape over the moon and not use your engines to hoover.
what he forgot or didn't know was that they purposefully flew like that because using the fuel efficient method would mean they'd fly up pretty high - and they want to avoid being seen by russian radar. what they did was constantly fire their engines - at low thrust - just enough to cancel out the downward pull of the moons gravity. plus some sideways velocity - achieved by angling slightly towards their target to actually move laterally.
when called out on that he tried to prove that the spaceship couldn't possibly have enough fuel to do that. he did that by assuming the engine type, assuming the weight and fuel capacity and assuming the engines are firing full tilt - which makes no sense since that same spaceship is shown repeatably going into orbit around the moon to pick up personnel from shuttles: if the engines were only strong enough to just barely counter the moons gravity, how the frick would they get into orbit?
in fact the amount of fuel needed to do what is shown is comically small since the moons gravity is pretty weak. even just a casual look at the thing (with convenient people for scale) shows that it can have about 4-4.5km/s of dV - which is also what it'd need to ferry people from orbit and about 20 times what would be needed for this stunt.
>what he forgot or didn't know
It was "didn't know." My only interaction with the show prior to this was random webms posted over on /sfg/. Flying like that to stay under the radar does make sense, but the real question is if the vehicle depicted could actually carry enough fuel to do the things it's shown doing.
>when called out
lol
>assuming the engine type
The actual LSAM design used RL10s, and they’ve been the only hydrogen engine in their weight class anyone in America has ever bothered to think about using. When given the choice to design a new small hydrolox engine or just give Aerojet a big pile of money for another RL10 variant, we have always chosen the latter option. The ones in the show even look like RL-10As.
>assuming the weight and fuel capacity
I didn’t assume anything about the weight, just if the vehicle could hold enough fuel to do what its shown doing, using the most accurate figures I has quick access to.
>assuming the engines are firing full tilt
That’s a very good point. 4x RL10s would put out (roughly! assuming!) 10x the thrust of the LEM decent engine, so you would have to throttle them way back if you wanted hovering, which makes the whole idea a lot more plausible.
>since that same spaceship is shown repeatably going into orbit around the moon
Saying "we saw them doing it in the show so it must be possible" isn't really a good argument for anything. This is the same show that air-launched a shuttle to the moon without a fuel tank. It's not known for focusing on hard scientific accuracy when it could be dwelling on telenovela drama.
References please, along with list of constants used, and for a small bonus you could include an annotated bibliography. Be sure to use the appropriate academic language, qualify your statements, and avoid all opinions and subjective declarations. Also, please use APA referencing and don't you dare submit in anything other than double spacing, using Times New Roman.
they're trying to avoid russian radar, running the main engines just hard enough to counter gravity and staying close to the deck makes perfect sense.
>assuming the engine type
>assuming it's at full thrust
>assuming, assuming that
>so many words to be an idiot
all you need to know is that the moons gravitational acceleration is about 1.26m/s2.
145s*1.26m/s2 = 183m/s of dV.
with modestly efficent (420s) hydrogen engines that would be burning about 4.5% of their weight in fuel.
>The real question is if you think you can fit enough fuel tank volume for the mission into what is really just a modded Apollo LEM model
the lem lower stage had enough dV to land on the moon moron. also it's not just a modded lem - it might look similar superficially but it's far larger and meant for different missions: it's shown ferrying shit from orbit down to the moon - that means it has a few km/s of dV at least.
tl;dr you said something stupid to show off that ksp expertise of yours and now you're just digging yourself deeper.
It knows
>All they had to fricking do was boot up Kerbal Space Program ONE TIME to make that not look fricking stupid.
That exact movement is definitely doable in KSP though.
Not if you want to save on Δv.
>Not if you want to save on Δv.
And where was the issue? They didn't have to save Δv
>All they had to fricking do was boot up Kerbal Space Program
>"It's not like muh vidya! WAAAAH!!1"
just stfu man.
>he didn't hover around the mun like this in KSP
open the game and do it right now homosexual. you just use enough to thrust to cancel vertical speed (aka hovering" and then use some other thrust or a slight tilt to move horizontally.
>Was that dextromethorphan I spotted him taking? That'll frick you up.
What are you talking about? All it does is give you robowalking and disso hole if you take enough.
I guess if you only take a little.
Note: I do not endorse taking a lot
The moon is white, it's the most racist moon in our galaxy. They will have to paint it brown for equality.
Maybe that's why I hear so much about going to Titan.
>I started pointing it out to my famil6t and friends years ago. At some point they started noticing it on their own kek. My mom is getting annoyed how ever commercial has a Black person or a father who is incompetent.
I've tried with my family and while they're sick of the homosexual inclusion they mostly remain blind to it. Like they just see it as entertainment with a liberal bent. Certainly do not the subversion is really is.
It's a shame, really. Cause that means the normies with no access to redpilling absolutely refuse to see it for what it really is.
This show is actually good though they've leaned into the character drama too heavily recently. But a lot of the character drama in the earlier seasons was great even if it's about subjects that makes Cinemaphile seethe
>check out my I mean their cuckolding movie bro, get this, they KEK each other in space suits!!!!!! I'm gonna go jerk off!
>when der no popeyes on da moon nigguh
>I rather humanity to end up staying and dying on Earth than having a baboon be the first man on Mars. If anything fly them to the moon.
The first persyn on Mars will be a Muslim trans wymyn of color and you know it.
the first words will be YASSSS SLAY GURRRL!
So predictions for the remaining episodes?
I thought the water would make a geyser and forma lake, wasn't expecting an earthquake. I think their lander is fricked now, so they'll have to fix either it or the Phoenix. Also, pill boy is gonna kys.
I can imagine the CIA intern tasked with analyzing Cinemaphile threads scratching his head over this post, OP. We on our way to developing our own language.
>it's yet another dumb cliffhanger
last time it were two ships crashing into eachother with crushed astronauts and meltdowns and shit and the next episode starts with a space funeral
Do you think they have infinite budgets? We are getting the aftermath next episode again.
blacks and whites are cucklords viva mexico putos
>you will live long enough to see a democrat president decree that the first mission to mars be staffed by nothing but black people they fast track through regulations and requirements, dooming everything.
>muuh Vietnamese adopted child
Ffs soap opera crap
The "heart transplant" scene was sweet, at least.
At least it would've been if Ed and Karen stayed together afterwards.
i can't be the only one who appreciates this, the dey hea poster, can i?
keep up the good work anon
meh, I liked the scene. he was the only one displaying genuine wonder. and he trolled the whole world by coming out in space. unironically one of my favorite characters this season.
What's his name? I can't name any of these newer characters, I don't even know who died a couple episodes back. Who was the gay with the robot dog? What's the name of the Russian who's banging Ed's adopted daughter?
who cares what his name is. if I tell you 'that gay black astronaut from for all mankind' you know who i'm talking about.
I remember Gordo and Tracy his prostitute wife, Ed as well... beyond that...
these plus margo, sergei, aleida, pam, kelly, danny, danielle, karen, molly I can name... basically characters who have been in the centre for multiple seasons.
I thought I'd end up hating Aleida a lot more than I do now, at first she was insufferable and now she's trying to sniff out Margo's extremely illegal leaks.
Margo turned into a right c**t, damn.
Power corrupts I guess
I do feel bad for Sergei, poor commie.
>Every political system is flawed. And every bureaucracy is corrupt
Yeah Sergei had it rough. The worst part is there is no friction there.
t. lived in the USSR
>friction
FICTION ffs
lol that makes more sense.
And the hull is unobtanium-infused adamantium coated in vibranium.
I miss Gordo and Tracy, I didn't think they were going to kill them off.
Duct tape space suits though, c'mon now show.
Scot Manley did some calcs and said it might work for a couple minutes even, if you use a lot of duct tape and face masks that can keep some low pressure.
>c'mon now show.
well it's not like the show presented them as working perfectly
Sure, but it's not realistic and the show was supposed to be going for realism.
I miss Tracys breasts and I miss Gordo as a character.
Will something I think? Wilson maybe?
That is the dumbest looking "serious" space suit I can remember seeing, and I've seen quite a few early scifi movies that wanted to be serious. Even these Jetson's looking motherfrickers seem to be somehow (if only due of the context of innocence) less moronic.
They have a bunch of different designs
>Commies working with a capitalist company
Really wonder how it would go down in real life. Politics makes strange bedfellows.
Money/power dictates all. That's why you have absolute enemies political parties form coalitions.
In space no one can hear you switch sides
>Really wonder how it would go down in real life.
Do you about China? remember:
“socialism with Chinese characteristics” by the country's leader, Xi Jinping
The greatest romance never told?
I thought /teevee/ would be simping for her
Troublemaker prostitute, Gordo and Tracey's kid is going down a bad path with that tramp.
I thought they would be le bad right wing terrorists, but they just wanted to get him the statues
the stevens brothers look creepy. like, they chose some manlets who would maybe kinds pass as some teenagers. except after 10 year time skip they're still weird looking manlets
yup
naw, she is the gf of the former moon marine
Do you think she actually let him hit that
Not a chance. Just using him for her (ex marine bf's) means. He's just the way to get into the building.
Right, it's not released in space. However, the atmospheric density drops off exponentially. Being able to cut off the biggest waste of fuel (atmospheric + gravity losses) means you can get away with a smaller ship. Especially since the show has refueling capabilities.
Jupiter when? Mars is boring.
Iconic
CGI or actual ships?
what?
are you asking if this is a real photograph taken in space of two real spaceships?
>what are miniatures for 500, Alex?
Damn, Soviet ship be thicc
Is this really large enough for 6 astronauts to not bash their heads in at some point? They need bunks of adequate size, training facilities to combat the effects of zero gravity, food and water, a little privacy since it's 6+ months.
It's probably got more internal volume than the ISS
prolly has several decks
yeah it is consistently what it is, so if you liked it do carry on
>a little privacy
You know about nuclear submarines???
It's archaic compared to this and people can shower aboard nuclear subs. With Phoenix everyone has their own cabins, gravity.
I always wondered how they do it.
I suppose you can just quietly rosey palm with some TP.
There's always a dark spot somewhere. Also, it's not gay if you're underway. It's only queer if you're by the pier.
did the russians have landers? where were they going top live? surely they were not landing the whole ship?
The Russian plan was always going to be a 1-way trip.
lol
OH NO NOT THE HECKIN N WORD! I'M GOING INSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANE
>saying the n-word is.....LE RACIST
no it's not.
I member when this place give zero fricks about words and feelings
Cinemaphile is probably walking a very thin line and the wrong incident will get it taken down. so they gotta make it look like they're at least attempting to stop un-p.c. beliefs on boards other than /misc/ and /b/.
The reality is, only power-hungry troons apply to be jannies because they want to subvert this site.
>The reality is, only power-hungry troons apply to be jannies because they want to subvert this site.
and what sucks is that the people who's moderate this site for the better are the ones they'd never let be mods.
janny needs his salary decreased
Reminds me of Buck Rogers.
Indeed, what a great fricking shot.
You've got a design evolution of the US Shuttle, and the Russian Vostok. And they aren't hidden by CGI smoke and Avid-blips like so much superhero imagery we see. It's just a focus on design, engineering and clarity of space. Just iconic.
Keep going! Helios!
That's the meme art I made. I love seeing my stuff in the wild.
Thanks Anon, good job
i just finished season 1 and i can tell it's all about to go to shit in the first ep of season 2. worth it?
SENPAI was renewed for S04. Fragile pale incels BTFO once again.
SENPAI is wordfiltered?
Think it'll be 2 seasons of Mars (1 to explore/set up, 1 dedicated to geopolitics)?
Sad! So another 2 or 3 years until Jupiter. No one wants Mars.
I doubt the USSR survives another season. They're gonna implode and be replaced by the Chinese. It's been confirmed in-universe that they're fricking over their technical capabilities.
That's dumb. If the USSR survived into the 1990s it would be dumb to kill it in a couple years. I guess the Chink would pay Apple to put them in the show.
I don't think the USSR in their timeline is in a good place. Yeah Communism has spread much more than OTL. However, they're being forced to take other people (like the Cubana) and Roscosmos couldn't crack the nuclear engines. Meanwhile NASA has been using them for 20ish years. In addition to that, the US is transitioning to a nuclear power (Dev's company made big bucks off He3 fusion).
>However, they're being forced to take other people (like the Cubana) and Roscosmos couldn't crack the nuclear engines. Meanwhile NASA has been using them for 20ish years.
It would be nice if Margo escape to the CCCP, a nice touch, similar that all propaganda about people who fly to the west
>character that is literally me going straight for the cuba milkers
based
poor doggo ;_;
chud
Soap opera with lip service to sci-fi.
Haven’t felt so fricking misled about a show in a long time, but I knew exactly what I was in for when ep 1 was about 80% personal drama. Started looking up the synopses of later episodes and it just got worse and worse. Dropped.
before I start this show, tell me if there are any blacks on the USSR side
not at the moment
Don’t even start man, I’m not joking. It sucks so bad. It’s literally a melodrama that occasionally remembers it’s supposed to be sci-fi.
Read the synopses on Wikipedia for lines like:
>On the ground, Tracy announces her marriage to financier Sam Cleveland on live TV, blindsiding her ex-husband Gordo.
>Kelly investigates her birth parents, while on the Moon
>It is now 1992. Karen and Ed have divorced, and Karen is launching an orbital space hotel
Phoenix > Sojourner-1 > Mars 94
Prove me wrong
Imagine not flying in luxury and choosing some weightless apple product or the soviet tin can. lol, lmao even.
MOGGED
Space Mexican is very smol.
Shantel mogs everyone so hard
it's like she truly is from a different reality where everyone is hotter
ROLLING!!!! Please give me a Margo!!!
please give me Danny
he may be nuts but he is also relentlessly handsome
quads for Tracy
Roll
whats this?
nogs in space
Please let there be life in space.
Let them doom us if one black foot steps on Mars.
Personally, although I'm no climate alarmist, I think we'll run out of enough oil to do anything meaningful in space before we're left with enough for important machines and we all live in some sort of high Victorian era living for the next thousands of years before we all die and in 70,000,000 years the next species that evolves will have to use our bodies as fuel to try again.
We don't use oil for space
Are you positive rocket fuel has nothing to do with oil?
k-kerosene doesn't count
because of the reasons
all the cool kids use liquid hydrogen anyway
There's no life in space.
AI is impossible, at least on silicon, maybe some other structure/material will allow it to happen.
I know. Our nearest star is a trinary system so that automatically cancels that system out. Most systems have multiple stars. Some have like 11 stars.
That's why all one can do is hope.
And if there is nobody will ever meet because FTL doesn't real.
And even if they were real, they won't be anywhere near us in technology. Just think about 100 years ago. They would possibly be millions of years ahead of us.
They could shove Charon up your nose from Pluto and you'd never find out about it.
Any form of intelligence that could live for centuries on something like electricity alone is impossible lol.
Else we would have this all over the galaxy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-replicating_spacecraft
Who knows what would happen even to our best shielded microchips when they actually leave the solar system, not just the magnetosphere of the sun, maybe there's a really dense sphere of radiation or plasma that will fry it up entirely and that's the case with all star systems, but then we witness none of this either, or moved stars or w/e https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrioshka_brain
Are you saying all those SNES space games I played where you kill some sort of bio-menace is the most plausible? Living ships?
The Tyranids?
That would make even less sense, meat is not efficient with energy at all.
I'm saying that in almost no scenario we'll ever leave our solar system.
>tfw born just in time to realize exploration is over
I guess we'll just have to get extra violent on this planet to make up for the loss.
I was in another thread on /sffg/ where they talked about us possibly being the first space faring race.
I'm sure some books cover that. Rendezvous with Rama, being the most popular (and great).
why is that, moron-kun
I say we'll leave the solar system because people will decide they want to do it and carry it out
Based mentally handicapped talmudivison enthusiast.
Bet you say the Matrix and now you believe humans are the best batteries.
Also
>le infinite progress
>le humanitarianism
walking meme
comfy thread
It's literally just a black guy and America is like 50% black so who cares
>like 50% black
Blacks are just the 13% but they...50%
I swear you Black folk play a few hours of KSP and you think you just KNOW space and everything about space
>When you were partying, I studied orbital mechanics.
Playing KSP adds a few brain wrinkles
It’s like with anime. As soon as Black folk got into anime I stopped watching that shit
Joke's on you.
I don't even play it. I just watch Quill play it.
cry more fragile white incel poc are winning and you have no future
>poc are winning and you have no future
You mean Black folk because Asians hate you and so do Latinos
preemptive F for Ed
171532425
so you don't actually have a reason at all
>edgy teenager HUMANITY BAD seething
you have to be 18 to use this site
I can't believe his last name is really "kinoman" lmao
AYO HOL UP
the problem with zebras wasn't because they couldn't be domesticated, it was because they're violent morons that totally lack family dynamics
any attempt to domesticate them is extremely resource intensive and would have required an unrealistically and prohibitively large investment to make work and break even on
Their European cousins are superior in every conceivable way, and that's why they prospered
>it was because they're violent morons that totally lack family dynamics
American blacks?
It's over, youtube comments hate it.
No one does it better
Than the Birds of Prey
Van Santen still mogging everyone including the little green friend in the centre.
Margo dabs on all of them
That would be Molly.
Seriously. Molly wins the 4AM beauty pageant.
>4AM beauty pageant
I don't understand.
The 3 letter abbreviation of For All Mankind is filtered. Some autistic Otaku thing. Trying out a new one.
>4AM
holy shit i love it
I thought it was some obscure American cultural reference.
SENPAI
i knew senpai was filtered but didn't know you'd get an all caps senpai if you typed SENPAI
is this the case for tbh?
From left to right
>would immediately ejaculate in my pants if I was hugged
>would
>would impregnate and marry
>no
>no
>no
>perhaps
TODAY I REMIND THEM
That's from the Sea Dragon, right?
Yes and the dumbfricks who made the model can't read engineering schematics.
lol calm down nerd
Is this supposed to be "They're here" or "The hell?"
>gay character
>literally cannot stop having sex no matter the risks
hahaha fricking based writers
>all the white men in the show are buttholes or losers
>all the non-white/non-straight characters are intelligent and POWERFUL