Did Pinocchio do anything to help the donkey boys or stop the Coachman's operation after the end of the film?
Did Pinocchio do anything to help the donkey boys or stop the Coachman's operation after the end of the film?
Did Pinocchio do anything to help the donkey boys or stop the Coachman's operation after the end of the film?
No.
In the book, the boy is bought from a farmer and worked to death.
Pinocchio also smashes the cricket with a hammer. The film is quite different.
heh
The remake will have them all get rescued, ruining the lesson.
Screen cap this
Good. They're children wtf
I hope the movie never gets remade because we don't need any more transformation fetishists in this word
Everything will be remade with the soul sucked out. Everything.
jokes on you I'm attracted to the female puppets
>He doesn't know
It's already being remade. The blue fairy is a bald black lady because diversity.
>There is no Pleasure Island in this story. Instead of being transformed into a donkey after living too large (one of the scariest parts of the classic Disney movie), Pinocchio is targeted by the government officials who hear tell of the boy made of wood and believe he might have other applications. “He is recruited into the village military camp, because the fascist official in town thinks if this puppet cannot die, it would make the perfect soldier,” del Toro says.
booh
>Modern Hollywood removes the child trafficking plotpoint
hmmmmmmmm
The joke is that in the pleasure island version of bootcamp, little boys are turned into puppets anyway.
in the remake; instead of being laborers they'd simply be shot in school.
Pinocchio is just a little kid. He’s not personally responsible for taking down a human trafficking ring.
Silence is compliance
He coulda told somebody eventually. It just doesn’t happen in the movie because he had a lot going on and it wasn’t immediately pressing compared to the other shit he had to deal with for basically the entire film after he left Pleasure Island. Iirc, he finds out Geppetto was eaten by Monstro immediately after his escape, and then he has to go find him. I think he does tell Geppetto on screen about the time Stromboli kidnapped him, though, so it’s not like he intentionally stays quiet about that sort of thing.
He just sounds selfish to me
I think with older animated movies some things can be handwaved as
says because shit could become too hard to animate. Like how the prince in Snow White was meant to have more screentime but the animators could never get him to look the way they wanted. However there is a more worrying issue with the fact that Lampy has a few things in common with Irish caricatures, and it could be that him being left to slave away as a donkey for the rest of his life "just isn't a big deal."
It's a dangerous conceit to plant the idea that people aren't responsible for themselves; but you are.
Well yeah, the guys who transform kids aren’t going to turn themselves in: that’s why it has to be someone else
>t. Ennis
If a girl did bad things on Pleasure Island, would they turn into a dog?
So, a b***h instead of a jackass? That makes sense.
I also think they could turn out to beca cow or a shrew, depending on their behavior.
They all became pleasure donkeys for older men.
I’ll take one.
How many asses can talk?
well, there's Ace Ventura...
Gimme one that's halfway done so I can frick the last of their humanity out of it
>Honest John and Gideon learn nothing, spend the money they already made and continue scamming the gullible and ignorant.
>Stromboli profits from Pinocchio's misery and even though he loses him, his life isn't ruined in any way.
>The Coachman continues luring stupid little boys to his island, turning them into donkeys and selling them to the circus and salt mines.
>Monstro the whale is still out at sea swallowing boats.
I wonder if any of these villains will some kind of comeuppance in the remake.
As mentioned
and
here apparently right before he attempts to find geppetto, honest john was supposed to have come back a third time but Pinocchio doesn’t listen to him this time(rule of three) and he and Gideon get arrested by the police, it wasn’t done because of time constraints and feature length animation was still a nightmare to make
The Coachman did nothing wrong.
I feel that the message would be lost a bit if they did. They only managed to take advantage of Pinocchio because he was lazy, disobedient, and irresponsible. If they get punished then the message would go from "don't be a crappy kid" to "don't be a crappy adult". It would sort of miss the point. Which is why they will definitely do it like that in the shitty live-action remake.
That's extremely disproportionate
It's extremely disproportionate in real life too. If a kid skips school to go with two strangers who offer to take him to a puppet show he can end up way worse than any of the kids in that movie.
Bruh being dead is unironically better than being trapped as a donkey
Anon could have meant child trafficking or rape
The Coachman atleast deserves to suffer cause the shit he does is like on a whole another level of evil compared to everyone else. Pull his teeth out once a day and slowly drill into his eyes.
Yeah, but the point of Pinocchio isn't that. It's not a cautionary tale for adults. It's a cautionary tale for kids. Evil people like that are always going to be around and they're not always going to be caught. The original intent is that children make themselves vulnerable to people like that if they refuse to listen to their parents.
yeah youre right
>lazy, disobedient, and irresponsible
Actually he was mostly just naive.
He kept doing what sounded fun instead of what he was supposed to do. None of this would have happened if he just went to school.
In the movie he is naive but in the boom he is a little shit who slowly becomes less shit after suffering the concequences of his actions.
This. The movie was trying to tell audiences that people like Stromboli, Fox and Cat, and the Coachman can only thrive on the foolish, naive, and ignorant to take advantage of.
Carrousel horses maybe? If there was a pleasure Island for girls were they get to be antisocial, destructive, and irresponsible like the boys. They'd be turned into carrousel ponies sold to amusement parks. They would be trapped in a cycle were random strangers ride them for entertainment and leave. It would be the most G-rated (but still horrifying) way of saying they'd end up exploited as "easy girls" or prostitutes.
>Carrousel horses maybe?
Sounds like the best option
>the message of the movie was anti capitalism
Oof
Remake this shit pronto
>stupid people get roped into wage jobs until they die
That’s too much horror. Inanimate is creepy yo.
Maybe just have them become mares to be sold to the circus as well, you know, white neat ones to be dressed up and paraded.
Might not hit home though for little girls since they tend to have a facination with horses
I also feel part of the point of the movie was to showcase that their world isn't really a friendly place. Having villains get their comeuppance would again, miss the point of that
Frick Pinocchio's World is fricking terrifying.
The world was fricking terrifying for the longest time, kids were stolen, starved and killed at seemingly random which is why fairy tales were so 'dark' and why they grew up so fast. My parents grew up in Guatamala and people like Honest John and the Coachman were absolutely real and still are real in parts of the world, even the civilized parts have it's underbelly which is why I hate the the cleaning up of classic fairy tales even beyond the original disnyleyfication
I think those grim fairy tales are still important
Western kids in developed worlds have this sanitized view of their environment
It is important to teach them lessons like 'don't go with strangers' and 'stay on the road/path'
It isn't bad that there are cute shows for them but they need to learn the hard lessons too
Disney sanitizing those fairytales, robbing then off their inherent messages destroyed entire generations
>The world was fricking terrifying for the longest time, kids were stolen, starved and killed at seemingly random
Right, I forgot. That never happens anymore
>cant read
Imagine if every Disney movie had no comeuppance for their villains.
Honestly would be an improvement
He sells nfts and pulls the rug on poor italian boys
No, the movie was perfect in that sense. People can and will do bad things to you and get away with it. Not everyone faces comeuppance.
I'd rather have little Timmy get the notion that everyone that poses as his friend isn't his friend from mildly terrifying cartoon movie than get fooled by the Honest Johns and Gideons and Coachmans irl.
This art is both cute and horrifying.
I thin so
Even as a barely sapient 3-year old I never understood why Pinocchio turns into a donkey. He's not real, he's made out of wood. Being a slave donkey would probably be a step up from being nothing.
At least in the video game Pinocchio dropkicks the coachman off a cliff
Based. Though the donkey boys are still stuck on the island as donkeys if you kill the Coachman.
>The Virgin Disney Remake vs. the Chad Del Toro Adaptation
I thought this was Pinocchio, not A Bug's Life 2
I think what we really need is a movie about what the hell happened to those boys, we can build a whole story around this concept
So has anyone read that fetish comic where they get turn into women instead?
That art direction looks like Pinocchio is about to frick that donkey or vice versa.
what the frick is this image
Have you seen the movie?
yes
Is there shota art by the pinocchio animators
In Kingdom Hearts IV, Sora saves the donkey boys and shoves his Keyblade all the way up the Coachman's ass.
Sora turns into a donkey boy
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA
Why the frick would he? The boys deserve it and it would be sacrilegious to rescue them