Did they let the teenage cast write this season or what? Jesus fricking Christ it made S3 look competently made.
Did they let the teenage cast write this season or what? Jesus fricking Christ it made S3 look competently made.
Did they let the teenage cast write this season or what? Jesus fricking Christ it made S3 look competently made.
Frick off, Angela.
Suck a dick, gay boy.
Oh man, I hated this show so much.
The girl in the middle is the woman of my dreams
you have very shitty dreams
They're pretty good, she's in them. They make me happy.
Dream bigger, darling.
The tone is all over the place. It goes from that nerdy guy seeing a spooky demon cop to 2 stoners goofing in the desert talking about girls. There’s too much going on between too many characters
For me it's the endless hamfisted exposition from people drawing huge stretches of conclusions in the blink of an eye that no human being would reasonably come to without being literally psychic, in order to let the semi-moronic Netflix crowd know what's going on because apparently the target audience is literal children.
God damn. Season one had its cheese but what the frick happened?
>the endless hamfisted exposition
This is the kind of thing that's plagued network television for decades, they have to write in little explanations to everything so nobody misses anything. Premium cable channels like HBO could avoid this for the most part, and it's what made their shows so much better than standard TV. Streaming services like Netflix followed in HBO's footsteps with their original content at first, being a cut above standard TV and respecting their audience's intelligence, but then a billion streaming services came out and competition got too stiff so they have to cater to morons like network TV does so that nobody is left out. They're desperate for money so they can't be too high brow for fear of morons unsubscribing because they can't follow what's happening in Netflix shows.
And the lowest common denominator of moron will clap, and critics will praise - because the critics' jobs these days it seems is to appease the populace - and media will continue to be dumbed down by the year. Shit, even those with the smarts to know what's bad will clap because fandom has become a cult now to the point that people react to criticism as viciously as a Pavlovian dog. A sorry fricking state of affairs. I just want to watch good shit again but every God damn thing that comes out goes to shit by its second season.
The biggest problem is that it's 3 or 4 parallel stories struggling to exist in the same season, and there's not much they can do in the next two episodes to bring it together without it being forced and full of this shit. If they wanted a way to deal with the bloated cast, they should have just done a zombie survival or Animorphs infiltration style thing and slowly converted or possessed enough of the cast to give them something cool to do and raise the stakes in the conflict. The way they wrote it, everything with Russia, stoner road trip, and Eleven's solo story (starting from episode 3) seems like wasted potential.
>For me it's the endless hamfisted exposition
>This is the kind of thing that's plagued network television for decades
This isn't just a tv problem, its been getting worse in movies over the years too.
Affirmative. Test audiences were a huge mistake.
I don’t think you understand, test audiences tell companies how to maximize profit. Not how to make a good work of art
Test audiences are the very reason the trope of having to dumb shit down for certain people to properly understand it exists in the first place. Maximizing profit is the key issue here, writing to cater to the common denominator of moronic frick that needs to see the 001 tattoo on Vecna's wrist as the final shot to properly understand what's already been explained comprehensively.
>the 001 tattoo on Vecna's wrist as the final shot
This shot was so gay and forced, too. There was no in-world reason for it to even take place, Vecna literally just broke the fourth wall and revealed his tattoo to the audience.
Yeah. They don’t care. They would rather cater to the morons than you. So why do you bother critiquing it?
Why care that media as a whole is being dumbed down year after year? Why don't you?
Yeah I care, but I don’t gripe about shows for morons being moronic. I don’t expect stranger things to be art until deeper societal issues are addressed
Black person I posted a thought in a thread on Cinemaphile whilst eating Pringles because I can't sleep, I'm not writing congress about it. Calm down.
I hope you never sleep again and your pringles get soggy
I wish you well and for many fortunes to find you in your future. Have a great day!
>Vecna giving a literal 15 minute monologue to Eleven explaining his identity, personality and motivations
Absolutely insufferable. I think Netflix is making this show for either children or people who can't speak English
I like it. Max ran from her depression. El has her Carrie moment. Kino Steve is still kino plus that covid bat scene fight at the end was dope. What are you expecting out of it exactly?
>What are you expecting out of it exactly?
At the very least, a coherent story that sticks to its own established rules and doesn't pull plot points from its own butthole basically at will to hold the entire frayed mess together.
what rules and plot points did it break?
Well for starters Eleven leaves the lab barely able to speak, which takes three seasons to correct, yet in the flashbacks she speaks normally. On top of that the upside down suddenly being a timefreeze makes no sense whatsoever and doesn't match up with Eleven's timeline at all. Eleven herself creates the gate in the past, which is such an important happening the fricking Russians infiltrate American soil in the middle of the Cold War to get a piece of it (don't even get me started on the villain-of-the-week who has been around since the beginning yet only just decided to show up being able to open gates at will) and yet they happen to have a fricking demogorgon IN RUSSIA with no explanation whatsoever. You can tell me they carted it into the back of a truck whilst in the US but doing so whilst making absolutely no mention of it whatsoever is terrible writing and a plot ass-pull. I could go on all day with this shit, so much was pulled from the ass the entire season felt cheaper than 'that episode' in S2. I don't know why I expected it to be better, everything post the obvious miniseries of S1 being an opportunistic cash grab, but I did not expect it to be as egregiously bad as it was - and by Christ I didn't expect people to DEFEND it on Cinemaphile of all places. Evidently dicky is a hell of a drug.
touche
Don't forget that every other kid in the program can also speak perfect english in the flashback scenes. Why the frick would just 11 come out underdeveloped and moronic?
Yeah, they originally treated Eleven like a serious victim of deep abuse. Now it's being watered down and retconned to be more palatable I guess.
Bullies where a little too over the top and forced, but everything else was pretty good. Roller blade scene felt like I was about to watch a roller blade themed highschool musical. Also. Why am I suppossed to hate male bully when he has every reason to believe his gf was murdered by the last person she was seen with, in said persons home and said person being seen fleeing the scene?
Roller Blade face had it coming though.
Also love triangle is my least favorite trope of all time next to harem milktoast mc shit.
It's been shit since episode 4.
Max should've died. It would've diluted the cheese with something dry and coarse enough to shake the quirky Scooby Doo vibe a little. It's clear they went into this season trying to shock a little with a darker vibe, but unfortunately they never quite committed to it. It's the same cutesy everything laced with cartoonish comedy bullshit as every season after the first. Have the music fail, Max dies, they all watch it happen, suddenly shit is serious and the stakes raised, and Vecna(cs?) is actually a formidable villain: and one that doesn't need some bullshit tacked on backstory that felt completely unnecessarily tacked on and just adds to the overall convoluted mess of the season. Instead we got a zoomer's first introduction to Kate Bush music video which, honestly, if it didn't make you physically cringe whilst watching it, fricking have a nice day.
Look, I’ll admit it, when she turns 18, and not a moment before, I want to see her breasts. There i said it.
>and not a moment before
y-yeah...
Yeah, wouldn't want to see them before puberty is fully done with her and her nipples are still all big and puffy. That goes double for gingers. Gross.
lol why would you watch this
How did robin hit the wall in between 3 and 4?
Dykes complained that she was too pretty and represented an unrealistic male ideal of lesbianism. I'm not joking.
Please sauce so I can observe this idiocy
The entire series after season 1 is filler, only season 1 and the last episode of season 4 matters
everybody seems to like it. i have no fricking idea how. every subplot is garbage aside from the characters in hawkins
>everybody seems to like it. i have no fricking idea how
I'm starting to give real consideration to the theory that 90% of the internet is just bots. Some of the posts in this thread are giving me hope, though.
MILLIE
EATS
MALE
ASS
Most of them do these days, m8. Filth.
What’s it like to have a woman lick your butthole?
Assuming you're jacking off while she's at it you have to TRY not to cum. It's a delicious feeling, followed by a good deal of post-ejaculation shame and embarrassment whilst you pretend it's never happened before and you were just pushing her head down to lick your balls but boy-howdy did that feel surprisingly good and we should try that again sometime maybe.
>followed by a good deal of post-ejaculation shame and embarrassment whilst you pretend it's never happened before and you were just pushing her head down to lick your balls but boy-howdy did that feel surprisingly good and we should try that again sometime maybe
holy shit this homie knows
I agree 2 years for this SHIT? Some morons here told me it was as good as season 1 lol no
Still amazing that Steve and Dustin are still the best characters in the show
>Steve
Yes.
>Dustin
,,,?
Reminder that Jason did nothing wrong.