Oh, look everyone. A fricking comedian huh, you are pretty funny. How about I put the ship that didn't crash and shove it up your ass? Huh, would you like that?
And to commemorate the disaster explorers named 2 mountains in Antarctica after the ships. Decades later, an airliner crashed into one of the mountains killing all 250+ people aboard, sadly it crashed into the one named Erebus and not Terror.
>explorers named 2 mountains in Antarctica after the ships
this was before the ships were used for the Franklin expedition. IIRC Cpt. Crozier himself named one of the mountains after his ship because during that time their expedition was a success. That's also were he would later encounter Sir Franklin who was the governor of Tasmania by that time.
>ships literally named after extreme fear and the darkness of hell >set to sail into uncharted lands of permanent darkness and frost >mfw
you just know god has a wicked sense of humor
It was a mortar ship. They were all named after hellish or volcano themes: >Blast, Furnace, Explosion, Fury, Aetna, Vesuvius, Infernal, Carcass, Terror
Hey now. it worked for crew. they made it. even doctor who after that went to join Royal Army Medical Corps and serve in ww1. i think he got sunk once and got wounded once during WW!
The Northwest Passage was frozen almost every year. The Terror tried to sail through the southward drifting ice as far as possible before it froze over. They planned to be icebound for at least one winter.
The book is good, I read it twice even. Simmons can write some creepy shit like Song of Kali. Hindus are... le bad!
They were fricking morons for dragging those boats over the rocks. They should have just had backpacks and hustled as fast and hard as they could to get south. After two weeks of going hard as they could, they would have gotten about 200 miles south and probably gotten to an area with plenty of game, seals and fish.
They’d done that, probably half would have survived.
The boats were indeed packed down with bullshit but a lot of it was also food
Their required caloric intake and number meant they would’ve had to haul something not to mention the goods to prepare said meals at all
Someone would’ve wound up hauling a sledge or two
They brought the boats so they could sail to the nearest trading post,not sure how many miles it was but it would’ve saved days off the journey had they made it water
I read the bpok. They had over 800 miles to get to blackfish river or how it was called and then still several hundred miles to cover to reach the nearest human outpost. Wether they would have made it 200 miles more is irrelevant. They were on the northwest side of King William Island (where the Terror was found in 2016) and had to traverse it completely, onl, to then have to traverse hundreds of miles of Canadian wilderness. They were doomed either way.
Based on a 2000 calorie diet, each man would need 175kg of hardtack per year. Canned food was still a new technology and in the show it was improperly manufactured. If they had stuck with traditional rations instead of new fangled canned foods, they would have been alright.
first off all, iirc they were like 50 people on each boat, that would mean 50*175=8750 kg of hardtack a year and 43 750 kg for a period of 5 years. This is not accounting for the finer portions of food for the higher ranking crew. There is no fricking way they had 40 FRICKING thousand of JUST hardtack on each boat. This is also assuming of a modern mans caloric requirement for his day of sitting in his car, then sitting at his desk, then at his couch all day. When you're out in the cold and doing physical labour all day, 2000 is fricking nothing. You will need at least 2500, preferably around 3000.
Why five years? Was that the stated length of time they were going to go between ports? They needed enough to overwinter plus a hefty safety margin but five years seems excessive.
Black person I gave you plenty of leeway in your favour, but sure do 3 years then. It still is almost 30 thousand kg of hardtack on each ship. Kinda fricking heavy don't you think?
>You will need at least 2500, preferably around 3000.
Rookie numbers:
After Johnson's death, RCMP officials realized that he had travelled over 137 km (85 mi) away from his cabin in 33 days, burning approximately 42 MJ (10,000 kcal) a day in the cold weather and hostile terrain. Seventy-five years later in 2007, forensics teams found that his tailbone was not actually symmetrical, causing his spine to curve left and right slightly. In addition, one foot was longer than the other.
>for a period of 5 years
they had planned to spend 3 years tops, something that was not uncommon at the time since many of the previous expeditions already factored in that you WILL get stuck in the ice for a winter or more.
Captain Ross himself warned Cpt. Franklin before he departed that if he was not back in three years he would go and search for him.
They obviously had to ration, no way they were getting their required caloric intake once the first year passed. The ships were fricking massive and had all the space in the world.
They even had like 50 tons of coal to keep the two steam engines running ( which was an incredibly stupid idea )
So how did they die in real life and how did the captain die? (captain died before they left the ship but they didn't elaborate why, given he is the captian it's unlikely he would be the first to go from the lead poisoning)
obv the polar monster shit is made up but apart from that its all based on a real story and everybody fricking died.
They expected the trip to last 1-2 years so they packed 3-4 years worth of food, lemon juice, etc, but with the weather of the 1840s being bizarrely more cold than in the decades before (or after) the ships were doomed to remain trapped too long
The Royal Navy cost cut and replaced lemon juice with lime juice. Lime juice is nowhere near as effective and loses potency after a few years. Seal meat is an excellent source and they did trade for some with bands of Inuit willing to make the occasional contact but it wasn’t enough.
they did, they brought lemon juice
they knew lemons and citrus stave off scurvy but didnt understand why exactly. They didnt know it was Vitamin C that was the cure and they sure as shit didnt know that lemon juice loses its vitamin C after a while
So how did they die in real life and how did the captain die? (captain died before they left the ship but they didn't elaborate why, given he is the captian it's unlikely he would be the first to go from the lead poisoning)
obv the polar monster shit is made up but apart from that its all based on a real story and everybody fricking died.
At least some amount of cannibalism was confirmed too
I read lead poisoning was likely a contribution to some of the crew dying but not due to the contaminated food tins. Lead was so prevalent everywhere back then so it ends up deposited in your bones so when you become malnourished and starving your body starts to break down your bones releasing a lot of lead into your bloodstream.
Franklin’s cause of death is still unknown. Dependent upon what they find in the silted over captains cabin of Terror once they excavate it, it will likely be solved then, if not it will likely never be.
>obv the polar monster shit is made up
theyre were polar bears found by rescue parties with musket balls embeded in their flesh. They have hunted polar bears or encountered them
There this creature that weighs ten times one man, and can rip your head off with one swipe.
It blends in with the background, making it almost invisible and on its hind legs its 9 foot tall. Its called a polar bear, the deadliest land predator.
What's the point wasting your life away with a bunch of smoothbrain eskimos eating raw blubber and snow in literally the most desolate shithole on earth?
Bongs considered losing a ship and failing an expiration almost as bad as treason. If he stays and dies, he becomes a tragic hero but if he goes home he becomes a loser and pariah
>failed his crew >failed his captain >lost both ships (losing one results in a court marshal) >didnt go down with the ship as was expected >failed his promise to the love of his life
There was nothing in England for him to return to. The Robert fripp song playing while this scene pans out is absolutely kino. Has anyone seen the four feathers remake with heath ledger and blood diamond black guy?
The concept of social shame was so overwhelmingly strong in England, that people would commit suicide to save face. Having a child outside marriage meant the woman had to be committed to a mental institution for life.
>what killed them?
zinc deficiency was a very likely culprit. scurvy would have been an inevitability but it's been postulated that production error in their canned goods lead to zinc deficiency which would have been way more terrifying and demoralizing >why did they get stuck?
they were doing one more leg in a series of expeditions to the canadian arctic, provided with the capability to challenge any of the previously encountered obstacles.
They were SUPPOSED to have left messages in supply caches along the shoreline but for some reason they didn't. They could have been fricking anywhere west of the bay of seals. >why did they manhaul sledges overland?
ignorance, confidence in naval discipline, strength in numbers rhetoric. the inuit people used a variety of recycled and reusable materials to craft their sledges, which had various functions for camping/fishing and as transport. for every 5 lbs of material the inuit needed, each sailor was probably hauling 250lbs worth of bullshit on their sledges >what happened to them?
They starved. There is reason to believe crozier and macdonald (the doctor depicted as going crazy in the show) actually made it some 300-400 miles inland.
>They were SUPPOSED to have left messages in supply caches along the shoreline but for some reason they didn't
they did, eskies looted the cairns for the metal cans that contained messages and left the paper as toys for the kids
HAVING REJECTED HIS LOVING WIFE MR. GIBSON, THE DEVIOUS SEDUCER CORNELIUS HICKEY HAS FLED TO BAFFIN BAY, INTO THE ARMS OF THE SORCERESS LADY SILENCE, PROMISING HER DOMINION OVER ALL OF ENGLAND. HE WORSHIPS POLAR BEARS. HE REDDENS HIS TONGUE WITH BLOOD, LIKE TUUNBAQ'S PROSTITUTE. HE DANCES AND STABS LIEUTENANTS IN VILE ESQUIMAUX RITES.
yes. it was expected and they had provisions for 5 years on each ship.
HOWEVER the planning for the expedition was rushed, the storing of the food was done in tins and in its rushed process it was not correctly sealed. the food was contaminated. They had salt piles with pork which lasted comfortably a year.
>archaeologists search for the wreck of the Terror for centuries >They finally find the sunken ship in... Terror Bay (named so before it was know that the ship was there)
You would think that Terror Bay would be the first place you look for the wreck of the Terror
>Indian chief promised to stock their destination (a fort) with food >made a starved, forced march to the fort >it actually had no food >had to eat lichen, rotten carcasses and leather strips >NTR subplot with British officers fighting over eskimussy >the team accidentally travelled with a serial killer who probably unknowingly fed them human meat
>soon after this show ended?
no, it was discovered in late 2016. This was when I made the first thread about the Terror show on Cinemaphile as far as I know. The thumbnail picture was a pike with dentures in his mouth and I asked other anons if they were excited for Dan Simmons' adaptation of the book which had just been announced to be in production.
why was their a polar monster, it didn't bring anything to the story which is kino enough without it and cheapens the story given that it actually fricking happened.
Tuunbaaq = dangers of being in the north and the brute force of nature = Death in the north
Silence = ability to accept the dangers of the north and live with them = Life in the north
Tuunbaaq kills everyone ill-prepared to face the dangers of the arctic with ease. The only ones that survive him are Blankly and Crozier. Blankly's experience and determination helps him facing off against the monster but he still sees the arctic as something that he has to battle against which leads to his death. Crozier accepts the arctic as something he has to adapt to. Silence is a representation of becoming one with the arctic. Once she appears she lingers beside the ships and never leaves. The necessity to embrace the north becomes a constant companion. Crozier accepts her unlike most of his men. Even Goodsir who is only fascinated by her as he is fascinated by the north even in his last days. Yet he can't become one with it as he is still tied to the civilized world ("You have to see England."). When the decission is made to let go of the comfort of the ships during the carnival Silence reenters the camp. When Hickey decides to do things his way, Silence leaves. The temptation to go back into the embrace of civilization sparks up one last time when Hickey's group wants to go back to the ships making them blind to the dangers that surround them. In the end Crozier survives his encounter with Tuunbaaq but only when his will to fully adapt to the arctic is powerful enough to cut off his ties to his past life (the chain). At first, Silence seems like a separate entity but eventually he accepts the north as a part of himself and Silence disappears.
>In the end Crozier survives his encounter with Tuunbaaq but only when his will to fully adapt to the arctic is powerful enough to cut off his ties to his past life (the chain)
Crozier survived because the fricking bear was poisoned and dying at the point he strangled it
he didnt cut his hand, Silence did because she's a moronic woman who couldnt wait for him to wake up and tell her where the key was
>Crozier survived because the fricking bear was poisoned and dying at the point he strangled it
worst part of the adaptation, in the books the Tuunbaq isn't even the biggest threat. The book is so fricking good at communicating how the cold, madness and fear among the men are the biggest dangers. The Tuunbaq is kind of like a shark that shows up now and then to pick up one or two guys while most of the guys are actually drowning or giving in to fatigue.
In the show he's le big bad reddit magic bear and the end villain. In the book he doesn't even die (it's even explained what the Tuunbaq actually is and why it cannot die), and the ending is 100 times more satisfying.
>entire cast is white >only gay character is pure evil and corrupts an innocent boy, making him gay too >next to no women in the entire show
Something like this will never happen again.
You say that as if it was made in the 50s or something. The Terror premiered in 2018! Peak current year. If anything I see more backlash to current year shit as the 20s march on. The culture is shifting my homie, stop doomposting.
Good thing I'm vaccinated too and I don't consider it insane to protect my health as well as my family's. Having irl doctors and biologogists in your friends group works wonders compared to getting advice from youtubers and random highly opinionated articles.
>Having irl doctors and biologogists in your friends group works wonders
Well of course they are going to parrot whatever they are told by higher authorities, that's what they do. You could get the same stellar advice of 'Get the vax, trust me' from any NPC
What kind of logic is this? Everyone says what he has been taught, that's not parroting. And yeah I'm going to out way more trust on close friends than online truthers.
>everything's getting better my fellow white, stop being so down and eat the bugs! >why yes of course I am vaxxed!
top kek
>eat ze bugs! >K-israelite!
Lmao strawman much? Also, never said I'm white.
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>Everyone says what he has been taught, that's not parroting
kek that is exactly parroting. the absolute state of npc's
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No it's not. There's a distinct difference between studying and understanding something and mindlessly repeating something you heard. So, >people who I know ally life mad trust, who have studied for years and worked in the field are pro >anons who farm outrage on a chinese cartoon animal simping forum are against
Now who should I trust...
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But you didn't study, you are mindlessly repeating what your friends told you
2 years ago
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Friends I trust. Also, what should anyone who isn't a doctor/biologist do you moron? Should anyone who isn't doctor not take any medicine at all because "HE IS PARROTING HE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE FEEDING HIM"?
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there are zero longitudinal studies on mrna gene therapy for humans so what is there to "study"
frick off, in 2018 we didn't have TikTok and trannies were for the most part still seen as the obscure mentally-ill degenerates they are.
2018 was when it all suddenly went really downhill and we started to enter current clown world, the scamdemic and saint floyd just accelerated it even more which is why it only took 2 years instead of a decade.
>The North Water
I 100% agree with you but North Water was an incredibly rare outlier and a tiny glimmer of hope. Just look at the tens of thousands of woke shows that have since been dished out. We literally only have North Water and Terror, everything else is racebait or woke shit with an agenda.
i wish i had time to get this angry about bullshit
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>i wish i had time
you would if you didn't have to spend most of your day swallowing hormone pills and dialating an axe wound with a dragon dildo. Incredible how much free time you would have if you had not given in to degeneracy.
Franklin was a proto American. He went BIG BIG BIG BETTER BETTER BETTER WE WILL OUTSPEND MOTHER NATURE AND BRING STEAM ENGINES TO THE ARCTIC, WE WILL USE THE TWO BIGGEST WAR SHIPS WE HAVE, WE WILL BRING 200+ MEN, WE WILL BRING HUNDREDS OF TONS OF FOOD, AND WE WILL NOT RELY ON THOSE SNOWBlack person SAVAGES FOR ANY HELP FOR WE ARE SUPERIOR...
When Amundsen went and did it he reported that even his tiny ship was at times only less than a foot above ground. They had to travers incredibly shallow waters and he also spent two years living and learning from the inuits, such as how to hunt and preserve meat and that wearing a layer of seal skin is better than 6 layers of wool like the English. He just went there with an open mind and logic instead of trying to give in to hubris like the proud british c**ts and thus he lived and succeeded.
Franklin was a proto-American by believing in British supremacy and inherent superiority of European thinking?
Americans were well-used to seeking advice from natives, Europeans found the suggestion insulting.
>Americans
you're talking about settlers in your example. I was referring to the modern Amerimutt who thinks that throwing money at a tree will suddenly make it fall over and turn into firewood. Frankling literally thought that bringing two steam enginges that weighed half as much as the remaining ship alongside enough coal for two months was a smart move. He could have packed rations for half a decade more instead of having fricking steam for 60 days when he knows that he will most likely spend years in the arctic. His pride killed hundreds.
>Franklin didn't decide the provisions alone
He did decide to bring hundreds of tons of steel engines and dozens of tones of coal because he thought technology = better. He was blinded by his shame and was grasping at any straw he could to improve his chances of success without thinking about it. They did not end up using the engines, instead it was one of the reasons they got stuck and starved. It would have been smarter to put all that steel in the front of ship to be flat and heavy like current ice breakers, but good ol' sir John was blind and incompetent.
Mr. Hickey has a new show premiering next week about scouse zoomers and a spooky dark web phone app and I am going to watch it because I love Mr. Hickey
"Moby Dick" and "The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym of Nantucket" are pretty great. But apart from actual Navy literature from that time or documentaries you won't find a book that delves as autistically into Royal Navy stuff like "The Terror". Simmons did so much fricking research, it's pretty impressive.
When you're at Melville, Redburn is incredibly underrated (even Melville himself called it a hackjob), it has kind of a Barry Lyndon feel to it, at least at the beginning. There's comedy from the main character being a pretentious wanker unfit to the world but also some real misery (and gay femboys). I fricking wish they made a movie out of it.
No.
But there were scenarios when boats at the time would get stuck in the ice on purpose or expect it to be very realistic because the moving ice would move them further up.
It sucked, though. Boats would spend sometimes a year or two moving (hopefully) towards their destination, hoping to not get crushed by ice. And most likely the boat would take years more to get transferred to the edge of the ice, which the crew didnt want to wait for
>hey who wants to go on a fun trip on our ship THE TERROR
>nothing could ever happen to us on the good ship THE TERROR
Well it was a warship. Why they didn't rename it once it became used for exploration is beyond me, maybe a seaman tradition.
Yes, naval superstition says it's bad luck to rename a ship. Though in this case, they found bad luck anyway.
the terror is a based as frick name
would you rather go on:
a) the rainbow 🙂
OR
b) the muthafricking terror
I'd rather go on the boat that didn't fricking crash
Well good news it didn’t crash, it got stuck in ice instead.
Oh, look everyone. A fricking comedian huh, you are pretty funny. How about I put the ship that didn't crash and shove it up your ass? Huh, would you like that?
the rainbow 🙂 probably has a cooler twist so i'll ride that
obviously in a threatless theme park context
the rainbow sounds pretty good ngl
I would go on Gjøa so I would actually finish the trip and come back
The Sinky Sinky Icy Gay Death would be more accurate
Go for a cruise on The Rainbow
>lots of nice wienertails
>weather is nice
>staff are friendly
>pool is cool
>play in the arcades or at the poker table
The Terror
>freeze to death
>eat poisoned food
>scurvy
>Go for a cruise on The Rainbow
>men are very friendly
Bring lube and make up
Impossible, im unvaccinated. I wont get shingles
You will get monkeypox in on The Rainbow tho
You forgot the other ship called Erebus
And to commemorate the disaster explorers named 2 mountains in Antarctica after the ships. Decades later, an airliner crashed into one of the mountains killing all 250+ people aboard, sadly it crashed into the one named Erebus and not Terror.
The frick was a commercial airline doing in Antarctica?
>Antarctic sightseeing flights
Do kiwis really
It's like a cruise but not 2 weeks long and full of gastro
No, it's just fricking moronic and pathetic, like all kiwis and ausies
Well, Erebus is the passage to hell.
>explorers named 2 mountains in Antarctica after the ships
this was before the ships were used for the Franklin expedition. IIRC Cpt. Crozier himself named one of the mountains after his ship because during that time their expedition was a success. That's also were he would later encounter Sir Franklin who was the governor of Tasmania by that time.
>ships literally named after extreme fear and the darkness of hell
>set to sail into uncharted lands of permanent darkness and frost
>mfw
you just know god has a wicked sense of humor
eh nothing personnel kiddo
why would the Logos be "orderly" anyways...
It was a mortar ship. They were all named after hellish or volcano themes:
>Blast, Furnace, Explosion, Fury, Aetna, Vesuvius, Infernal, Carcass, Terror
>welcome to your new duty station, HMS Carcass
Brutal
Sounds like some WH40K shit. Imagine actually having to spend your life aboard the fricking Carcass.
Carcass shot was I believe Quicklime loaded charges that would cover the enemy in caustic sauce
They didn't have Quicktime back then, dummy.
what the frick were they thinking honestly
>renames it to ENDURANCE
what could possibly go wrong?
Hey now. it worked for crew. they made it. even doctor who after that went to join Royal Army Medical Corps and serve in ww1. i think he got sunk once and got wounded once during WW!
painfully white
Deliciously white
>characters represented and focused on their personality and actions instead of some cookie cutter minority/gender role
Kino
The last show we'll ever see with this many white men.
I'd let every single one of them smash my back doors in, even the boomers
once me and my girl at the time saw the homosexual scene we agreed same time and dropped it instantly. miss that based b***h
>woman doesn't understand bro kino may involve a little fanny banditry
She withheld you from kino.
yeah? what was his name?
>Hehe
>You hear that Tone?
>navy boys being gay
yeah this has never happened irl
The homosexual was the bad guy though
Shes getting fricked out right now. Have a nice day
ye, it was part of their masterplan
Hey, let’s just invent some super scary human-looking giant polar bear monster! It’ll be so cool guys! Hee-hee!
Read the book homosexual.
Hint It's much better than the tv show
The Northwest Passage was frozen almost every year. The Terror tried to sail through the southward drifting ice as far as possible before it froze over. They planned to be icebound for at least one winter.
The book is good, I read it twice even. Simmons can write some creepy shit like Song of Kali. Hindus are... le bad!
You read Carrion Comfort? Had that on my todo list for a while.
And he's only a tenth of Cormac's power.
HYPERION
Trash show for morons who like flying zombie polar bears.
They were fricking morons for dragging those boats over the rocks. They should have just had backpacks and hustled as fast and hard as they could to get south. After two weeks of going hard as they could, they would have gotten about 200 miles south and probably gotten to an area with plenty of game, seals and fish.
They’d done that, probably half would have survived.
Honestly yeah.
The boats were indeed packed down with bullshit but a lot of it was also food
Their required caloric intake and number meant they would’ve had to haul something not to mention the goods to prepare said meals at all
Someone would’ve wound up hauling a sledge or two
They brought the boats so they could sail to the nearest trading post,not sure how many miles it was but it would’ve saved days off the journey had they made it water
They needed the boats. Their plan was to sail down a river to civilization.
> get to edge of ice
> ???
>Get to Back River
>Cant go anywhere cus you got no boat
Genius.
>200 miles
t. Geographylet
I read the bpok. They had over 800 miles to get to blackfish river or how it was called and then still several hundred miles to cover to reach the nearest human outpost. Wether they would have made it 200 miles more is irrelevant. They were on the northwest side of King William Island (where the Terror was found in 2016) and had to traverse it completely, onl, to then have to traverse hundreds of miles of Canadian wilderness. They were doomed either way.
yeah they planned to get stuck , but not for more than one year. They brought enough food to last several years.
logistically, this does not seem possible at all
Based on a 2000 calorie diet, each man would need 175kg of hardtack per year. Canned food was still a new technology and in the show it was improperly manufactured. If they had stuck with traditional rations instead of new fangled canned foods, they would have been alright.
They’d have needed more than that, the cold alone would’ve caused their needed intake to skyrocket
Puppy piling would have reduced their warming needs.
>They’d have needed more than that
They say in the show that they planned to hunt in various parts to make up for it.
first off all, iirc they were like 50 people on each boat, that would mean 50*175=8750 kg of hardtack a year and 43 750 kg for a period of 5 years. This is not accounting for the finer portions of food for the higher ranking crew. There is no fricking way they had 40 FRICKING thousand of JUST hardtack on each boat. This is also assuming of a modern mans caloric requirement for his day of sitting in his car, then sitting at his desk, then at his couch all day. When you're out in the cold and doing physical labour all day, 2000 is fricking nothing. You will need at least 2500, preferably around 3000.
Why five years? Was that the stated length of time they were going to go between ports? They needed enough to overwinter plus a hefty safety margin but five years seems excessive.
Black person I gave you plenty of leeway in your favour, but sure do 3 years then. It still is almost 30 thousand kg of hardtack on each ship. Kinda fricking heavy don't you think?
What's the gross cargo capacity of their ships?
90,000 tonnes
>five years seems excessive.
Considering they starved to death after eating each other, I guess you're kind of moronic.
>You will need at least 2500, preferably around 3000.
Rookie numbers:
After Johnson's death, RCMP officials realized that he had travelled over 137 km (85 mi) away from his cabin in 33 days, burning approximately 42 MJ (10,000 kcal) a day in the cold weather and hostile terrain. Seventy-five years later in 2007, forensics teams found that his tailbone was not actually symmetrical, causing his spine to curve left and right slightly. In addition, one foot was longer than the other.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Johnson_(criminal)
Why is the polar circle so full of KINO?
>for a period of 5 years
they had planned to spend 3 years tops, something that was not uncommon at the time since many of the previous expeditions already factored in that you WILL get stuck in the ice for a winter or more.
Captain Ross himself warned Cpt. Franklin before he departed that if he was not back in three years he would go and search for him.
They obviously had to ration, no way they were getting their required caloric intake once the first year passed. The ships were fricking massive and had all the space in the world.
They even had like 50 tons of coal to keep the two steam engines running ( which was an incredibly stupid idea )
boats.
The one with the indian kid and the tiger probably belongs on this list. It's schlocky CGI boatcore at its best
>pukehalla rising
That shit doesn`t deserve to be near a show like The Terror
Cabin Boy!
What's going on with that White Squall cover?
That's actually a pretty decent list. Good for Cinemaphile for once.
Fricking eskiBlack folk didn't even help homosexuals
I bet you'd help someone whose car broke down in your neighborhood.
i know, i think they must have cut the "whoopsie" scene
Did they really have a "choice" to not go ahead with the trip? Would they be shamed if they went home without exploring the arctic?
Yes it would be shameful to return home unsuccessful
>"Well we're finally back from our expedition and it turns out there's a bunch of ice and cold water, just as expected."
>"What about the Northwest Passage you left to discover?"
The captain had already failed on multiple previous expeditions and was the laughing stock of rich english society
She is not attractive. How did this fugly inbred get to the top of the heep and wtf is wrong with her fans?
So how did they die in real life and how did the captain die? (captain died before they left the ship but they didn't elaborate why, given he is the captian it's unlikely he would be the first to go from the lead poisoning)
obv the polar monster shit is made up but apart from that its all based on a real story and everybody fricking died.
exposure, starvation, malnutrition and scurvy
Why didn’t they pack enough shit to stave off scurvy?
Supplies lose potency after a while
They expected the trip to last 1-2 years so they packed 3-4 years worth of food, lemon juice, etc, but with the weather of the 1840s being bizarrely more cold than in the decades before (or after) the ships were doomed to remain trapped too long
we could use some of this global cooling right about now!
they didn't even know what caused scurvy in the 1840s
They knew lemon juice prevented it and required a daily ration for each crewmember.
That wasn't until like 30 years after this expedition
That's wrong, they brought nearly 10,000lbs of lemon juice for the mission.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/arctic/provisions.html
What are you basing your opinion on?
dude, trust me
>dude, trust me
lemon juice loses its vitamin c after 90 days
they switched to sauerkraut right?
Did Age of Ship sailors ever bring potatoes with them? Potatoes contain vitamin C and last decently long in cool and dark storage
>Open potato storeroom
>instantly pass out and die
No thanks.
not just cool and dark. but dry. there is nothing dry in ship.
They did, but they went with the lowest bidder on the contract to supply the canned goods, and got shit solders and tainted food.
The Royal Navy cost cut and replaced lemon juice with lime juice. Lime juice is nowhere near as effective and loses potency after a few years. Seal meat is an excellent source and they did trade for some with bands of Inuit willing to make the occasional contact but it wasn’t enough.
they did, they brought lemon juice
they knew lemons and citrus stave off scurvy but didnt understand why exactly. They didnt know it was Vitamin C that was the cure and they sure as shit didnt know that lemon juice loses its vitamin C after a while
At least some amount of cannibalism was confirmed too
probably scurvy
>obv the polar monster shit is made up
Wrong.
Any way that you can think of a man dying while marching through the Canadian arctic on starvation rations is how they died
I read lead poisoning was likely a contribution to some of the crew dying but not due to the contaminated food tins. Lead was so prevalent everywhere back then so it ends up deposited in your bones so when you become malnourished and starving your body starts to break down your bones releasing a lot of lead into your bloodstream.
It would be interesting if true, how many poor people really became insane because of this.
Franklin’s cause of death is still unknown. Dependent upon what they find in the silted over captains cabin of Terror once they excavate it, it will likely be solved then, if not it will likely never be.
It was a polar monster
>polar monster
>made up
NGMI
*tips fedora* the people were the real monsters
about 7-11 guys were confirmed survivor, all joining up the eskimos
>obv the polar monster shit is made up
theyre were polar bears found by rescue parties with musket balls embeded in their flesh. They have hunted polar bears or encountered them
There this creature that weighs ten times one man, and can rip your head off with one swipe.
It blends in with the background, making it almost invisible and on its hind legs its 9 foot tall. Its called a polar bear, the deadliest land predator.
Why did he do it?
he was a gay and his boyfriend died
Why didn't he just go back to England?
What's the point wasting your life away with a bunch of smoothbrain eskimos eating raw blubber and snow in literally the most desolate shithole on earth?
Shame in failure and in losing all the men in his command.
He probably would have been deemed responsible for the death of like 100 men
Guilt. He blames himself for everyone's death.
He's punishing himself.
Bongs considered losing a ship and failing an expiration almost as bad as treason. If he stays and dies, he becomes a tragic hero but if he goes home he becomes a loser and pariah
Because he didn't go down with the ship
Got some quiet Eskimo pussy is mighty cold
Hated normie high society
>failed his crew
>failed his captain
>lost both ships (losing one results in a court marshal)
>didnt go down with the ship as was expected
>failed his promise to the love of his life
There was nothing in England for him to return to. The Robert fripp song playing while this scene pans out is absolutely kino. Has anyone seen the four feathers remake with heath ledger and blood diamond black guy?
The concept of social shame was so overwhelmingly strong in England, that people would commit suicide to save face. Having a child outside marriage meant the woman had to be committed to a mental institution for life.
You have no idea how rigid society used to be
My mind can't comprehend this. At least one of these actors should be a fat, bald transgender Black person yet all I see is white(ish) people?
real Stanley and Des Voeux were cute 🙂
God im proud to be an Englishman, we shred so much light on the planet.
I wish i was aristocracy in 19th century England
Why was he such a proto-/pol/ack?
>what killed them?
zinc deficiency was a very likely culprit. scurvy would have been an inevitability but it's been postulated that production error in their canned goods lead to zinc deficiency which would have been way more terrifying and demoralizing
>why did they get stuck?
they were doing one more leg in a series of expeditions to the canadian arctic, provided with the capability to challenge any of the previously encountered obstacles.
They were SUPPOSED to have left messages in supply caches along the shoreline but for some reason they didn't. They could have been fricking anywhere west of the bay of seals.
>why did they manhaul sledges overland?
ignorance, confidence in naval discipline, strength in numbers rhetoric. the inuit people used a variety of recycled and reusable materials to craft their sledges, which had various functions for camping/fishing and as transport. for every 5 lbs of material the inuit needed, each sailor was probably hauling 250lbs worth of bullshit on their sledges
>what happened to them?
They starved. There is reason to believe crozier and macdonald (the doctor depicted as going crazy in the show) actually made it some 300-400 miles inland.
>They were SUPPOSED to have left messages in supply caches along the shoreline but for some reason they didn't
they did, eskies looted the cairns for the metal cans that contained messages and left the paper as toys for the kids
they didn't know it gets cold up there. it was a different time
There has never been a more kino ending
It really was kino
HAVING REJECTED HIS LOVING WIFE MR. GIBSON, THE DEVIOUS SEDUCER CORNELIUS HICKEY HAS FLED TO BAFFIN BAY, INTO THE ARMS OF THE SORCERESS LADY SILENCE, PROMISING HER DOMINION OVER ALL OF ENGLAND. HE WORSHIPS POLAR BEARS. HE REDDENS HIS TONGUE WITH BLOOD, LIKE TUUNBAQ'S PROSTITUTE. HE DANCES AND STABS LIEUTENANTS IN VILE ESQUIMAUX RITES.
CNN in antiquity
of course
yes. it was expected and they had provisions for 5 years on each ship.
HOWEVER the planning for the expedition was rushed, the storing of the food was done in tins and in its rushed process it was not correctly sealed. the food was contaminated. They had salt piles with pork which lasted comfortably a year.
>archaeologists search for the wreck of the Terror for centuries
>They finally find the sunken ship in... Terror Bay (named so before it was know that the ship was there)
You would think that Terror Bay would be the first place you look for the wreck of the Terror
>bg-OOOOOOOOOmmm bg-eum-bem-beum-bap beum-beum-bap-bap
Coppermine expedition prequel for Franklin when?
>Indian chief promised to stock their destination (a fort) with food
>made a starved, forced march to the fort
>it actually had no food
>had to eat lichen, rotten carcasses and leather strips
>NTR subplot with British officers fighting over eskimussy
>the team accidentally travelled with a serial killer who probably unknowingly fed them human meat
Why didnt they just use eagles to explore the southwest passage?
What would they eat?
It's something only white people would understand.
As good as this is, the Shackleton expedition story is better
wasn't an old lost British expedition ship discovered soon after this show ended?
yeah the terror (same ship from the show)
I think other ship was found few years before.
Erebus was found in 2014, Terror in 2016. An Inuit reported seeing a mast of the Terror protruding through the ice as late as 2009.
Also the Endurance of Ernest Shackleton was finally found in the Antarctic like 6 months ago.
>soon after this show ended?
no, it was discovered in late 2016. This was when I made the first thread about the Terror show on Cinemaphile as far as I know. The thumbnail picture was a pike with dentures in his mouth and I asked other anons if they were excited for Dan Simmons' adaptation of the book which had just been announced to be in production.
Is it worth watching?
why was their a polar monster, it didn't bring anything to the story which is kino enough without it and cheapens the story given that it actually fricking happened.
Tuunbaaq = dangers of being in the north and the brute force of nature = Death in the north
Silence = ability to accept the dangers of the north and live with them = Life in the north
Tuunbaaq kills everyone ill-prepared to face the dangers of the arctic with ease. The only ones that survive him are Blankly and Crozier. Blankly's experience and determination helps him facing off against the monster but he still sees the arctic as something that he has to battle against which leads to his death. Crozier accepts the arctic as something he has to adapt to. Silence is a representation of becoming one with the arctic. Once she appears she lingers beside the ships and never leaves. The necessity to embrace the north becomes a constant companion. Crozier accepts her unlike most of his men. Even Goodsir who is only fascinated by her as he is fascinated by the north even in his last days. Yet he can't become one with it as he is still tied to the civilized world ("You have to see England."). When the decission is made to let go of the comfort of the ships during the carnival Silence reenters the camp. When Hickey decides to do things his way, Silence leaves. The temptation to go back into the embrace of civilization sparks up one last time when Hickey's group wants to go back to the ships making them blind to the dangers that surround them. In the end Crozier survives his encounter with Tuunbaaq but only when his will to fully adapt to the arctic is powerful enough to cut off his ties to his past life (the chain). At first, Silence seems like a separate entity but eventually he accepts the north as a part of himself and Silence disappears.
i see
also franklin won't acknowledge silence at all and orders her off the ship and is one of the first to die
>In the end Crozier survives his encounter with Tuunbaaq but only when his will to fully adapt to the arctic is powerful enough to cut off his ties to his past life (the chain)
Crozier survived because the fricking bear was poisoned and dying at the point he strangled it
he didnt cut his hand, Silence did because she's a moronic woman who couldnt wait for him to wake up and tell her where the key was
>Crozier survived because the fricking bear was poisoned and dying at the point he strangled it
worst part of the adaptation, in the books the Tuunbaq isn't even the biggest threat. The book is so fricking good at communicating how the cold, madness and fear among the men are the biggest dangers. The Tuunbaq is kind of like a shark that shows up now and then to pick up one or two guys while most of the guys are actually drowning or giving in to fatigue.
In the show he's le big bad reddit magic bear and the end villain. In the book he doesn't even die (it's even explained what the Tuunbaq actually is and why it cannot die), and the ending is 100 times more satisfying.
Midwit
>HMS DISCOVERY
discovers tons of unknown islands in the pacific
>HMS ENDURANCE
crew endures unimaginable hardships and odds and survives
>HMS TERROR
>entire cast is white
>only gay character is pure evil and corrupts an innocent boy, making him gay too
>next to no women in the entire show
Something like this will never happen again.
You say that as if it was made in the 50s or something. The Terror premiered in 2018! Peak current year. If anything I see more backlash to current year shit as the 20s march on. The culture is shifting my homie, stop doomposting.
You're insane. Did forget how many people voluntarily got the vaxx? How many countries complied with the covid nonsense? It's only going to get worse.
Good thing I'm vaccinated too and I don't consider it insane to protect my health as well as my family's. Having irl doctors and biologogists in your friends group works wonders compared to getting advice from youtubers and random highly opinionated articles.
>Having irl doctors and biologogists in your friends group works wonders
Well of course they are going to parrot whatever they are told by higher authorities, that's what they do. You could get the same stellar advice of 'Get the vax, trust me' from any NPC
What kind of logic is this? Everyone says what he has been taught, that's not parroting. And yeah I'm going to out way more trust on close friends than online truthers.
>eat ze bugs!
>K-israelite!
Lmao strawman much? Also, never said I'm white.
>Everyone says what he has been taught, that's not parroting
kek that is exactly parroting. the absolute state of npc's
No it's not. There's a distinct difference between studying and understanding something and mindlessly repeating something you heard. So,
>people who I know ally life mad trust, who have studied for years and worked in the field are pro
>anons who farm outrage on a chinese cartoon animal simping forum are against
Now who should I trust...
But you didn't study, you are mindlessly repeating what your friends told you
Friends I trust. Also, what should anyone who isn't a doctor/biologist do you moron? Should anyone who isn't doctor not take any medicine at all because "HE IS PARROTING HE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE FEEDING HIM"?
there are zero longitudinal studies on mrna gene therapy for humans so what is there to "study"
>everything's getting better my fellow white, stop being so down and eat the bugs!
>why yes of course I am vaxxed!
top kek
frick off, in 2018 we didn't have TikTok and trannies were for the most part still seen as the obscure mentally-ill degenerates they are.
2018 was when it all suddenly went really downhill and we started to enter current clown world, the scamdemic and saint floyd just accelerated it even more which is why it only took 2 years instead of a decade.
The North Water was the same as Terror in the race aspect and it came out one year ago
>The North Water
I 100% agree with you but North Water was an incredibly rare outlier and a tiny glimmer of hope. Just look at the tens of thousands of woke shows that have since been dished out. We literally only have North Water and Terror, everything else is racebait or woke shit with an agenda.
Please dont attack me 🙁
troonys just want to be left alone, you're confusing us with globohomosexual divide and rule
>troonys just want to be left alone
*He says while putting on his demon make-up and wig to read pro-racemixing childrens books at the nearest daycare*
You already gave us that schtick when you said you simply wanted to be able to get married and look where we are now
i wish i had time to get this angry about bullshit
>i wish i had time
you would if you didn't have to spend most of your day swallowing hormone pills and dialating an axe wound with a dragon dildo. Incredible how much free time you would have if you had not given in to degeneracy.
Why did the Norwegians succeed where the British fail?
Brits cannot handle any temperatures
Norwegians studied how the Sami and the Inuit survived the cold. Brits used cotton clothes, while they used wolf pelts which were more effective.
Brits used wool.
the norwegians stayed and lived with the eksies for a few years to learn how they survived up there
It's similar to how the race for the south pole went. Scott used ponies and motor sleds while Amundsen used dog sleds and skis.
Franklin was a proto American. He went BIG BIG BIG BETTER BETTER BETTER WE WILL OUTSPEND MOTHER NATURE AND BRING STEAM ENGINES TO THE ARCTIC, WE WILL USE THE TWO BIGGEST WAR SHIPS WE HAVE, WE WILL BRING 200+ MEN, WE WILL BRING HUNDREDS OF TONS OF FOOD, AND WE WILL NOT RELY ON THOSE SNOWBlack person SAVAGES FOR ANY HELP FOR WE ARE SUPERIOR...
When Amundsen went and did it he reported that even his tiny ship was at times only less than a foot above ground. They had to travers incredibly shallow waters and he also spent two years living and learning from the inuits, such as how to hunt and preserve meat and that wearing a layer of seal skin is better than 6 layers of wool like the English. He just went there with an open mind and logic instead of trying to give in to hubris like the proud british c**ts and thus he lived and succeeded.
Imagine dying on an expedition because your superiors in England were too moronic to make sure they had someone along who could actually hunt seals.
Amundsen was a dishonourable snake by the time's British standard
but he won
>by the time's British standard
Amundsen went like half a century after Franklin
Franklin was a proto-American by believing in British supremacy and inherent superiority of European thinking?
Americans were well-used to seeking advice from natives, Europeans found the suggestion insulting.
>Americans
you're talking about settlers in your example. I was referring to the modern Amerimutt who thinks that throwing money at a tree will suddenly make it fall over and turn into firewood. Frankling literally thought that bringing two steam enginges that weighed half as much as the remaining ship alongside enough coal for two months was a smart move. He could have packed rations for half a decade more instead of having fricking steam for 60 days when he knows that he will most likely spend years in the arctic. His pride killed hundreds.
Franklin didn't decide the provisions alone. The entire admiralty had a role.
This wasn't Franklin's hubris, it was British hubris.
The man who ate his own boots should've known better.
>Franklin didn't decide the provisions alone
He did decide to bring hundreds of tons of steel engines and dozens of tones of coal because he thought technology = better. He was blinded by his shame and was grasping at any straw he could to improve his chances of success without thinking about it. They did not end up using the engines, instead it was one of the reasons they got stuck and starved. It would have been smarter to put all that steel in the front of ship to be flat and heavy like current ice breakers, but good ol' sir John was blind and incompetent.
Are we brothers, Cinemaphile?
Mr. Hickey has a new show premiering next week about scouse zoomers and a spooky dark web phone app and I am going to watch it because I love Mr. Hickey
What are some good nautical books? Not necessarily fiction. I love this expedition stuff.
In the Heart of the Sea is great (no expeditions but similar to The Terror with hopelessness and cannibalism)
"Moby Dick" and "The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym of Nantucket" are pretty great. But apart from actual Navy literature from that time or documentaries you won't find a book that delves as autistically into Royal Navy stuff like "The Terror". Simmons did so much fricking research, it's pretty impressive.
When you're at Melville, Redburn is incredibly underrated (even Melville himself called it a hackjob), it has kind of a Barry Lyndon feel to it, at least at the beginning. There's comedy from the main character being a pretentious wanker unfit to the world but also some real misery (and gay femboys). I fricking wish they made a movie out of it.
>Tuunbaq
>kills them all because they refuse to turn back
This is fricking me up more than the Articuno, Zapdos, Moltres thing.
Mozart?
could he still be alive?
>Monster's named in Tongueback
>You feed it your tongue to gain power over it
Bravo AMC
No.
But there were scenarios when boats at the time would get stuck in the ice on purpose or expect it to be very realistic because the moving ice would move them further up.
It sucked, though. Boats would spend sometimes a year or two moving (hopefully) towards their destination, hoping to not get crushed by ice. And most likely the boat would take years more to get transferred to the edge of the ice, which the crew didnt want to wait for
you WILL eat the canned rations
trust the science
MR HICKEY THATS ENOUGH POCKETING FARTS IN CABIN BOYS MOUTH
ENTER
The middle actor reminds me of CIA.
MR. HICKEY. PUT DOWN THAT GRAPHITE
What was their tax policy during their absence?
the damp rises