No, not really. I dont remember season 1 being "lovecraftian" either. Anyway the season has two female detectives as the leads and so I have no interest as it will inevitably be boring
>Anyway the season has two female detectives as the leads and so I have no interest as it will inevitably be boring
That information has been announced for close to a year now. How is I you’re the first person to respond to this thread at damn near 3 in the morning on the night the episode premieres talking about how much you DON’T care about the show and how UNinterested you are about this thing that’s been public knowledge for months.
Do you get paid to be a professional hater or something? Just admit you’re a fricking fan an move on already
I live in a different timezone. The time is different for me, anon. I didn't know when it premiered. Does making a thread at 3am mean you are a professional shill?
lol I’m not op, and I definitely wasn’t the very first one who came running to announce how DISinterested they were in discovering information about this show that had been publicly available for nearly a decade year before it came out literally on the night the show premiered. That’s some impressive dedication to hater-ship. >I JUST CAME HERE TO SAY HOW MAD I AM THAT THIS THING I DEFINITELY DON’T CARE ABOUT HAPPENED AND THAT I 100% KNEW ABOUT FOR MONTHS! >JUST WANTED TO BE IN HERE FIRST TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW HOW NOT MAD ABOUT THAT I WAS
Lmao
>Anyway the season has two female detectives as the leads and so I have no interest as it will inevitably be boring
That information has been announced for close to a year now. How is I you’re the first person to respond to this thread at damn near 3 in the morning on the night the episode premieres talking about how much you DON’T care about the show and how UNinterested you are about this thing that’s been public knowledge for months.
Do you get paid to be a professional hater or something? Just admit you’re a fricking fan an move on already
Must remind you guys that the whole shit is real, at least in season 1. Why? They never say "Oh yeah this is fiction by this guy Chambers". They talk about the King in Yellow as actual lore, not a fiction book. Sure there is subtly in the whole thing, was Rusty really seeing shit in the end or the drugs and the pain took his mind? We don't know. But I'd say magic/horror is real in this universe but they did the right thing by not showing a CGI monster and ruining the whole mood.
It's odd everyone seems to be hallucinating at the same time and there isn't a guy going >Hey, man. Something is wrong, man. This reminds me of a trip I had last week. Oh, shit. We've been drugged.
i think the clearest conclusion is like baphomet and shit. not real but sickos get real into it. rusts visions were all explained away by tiredness or drugs moronic as that is. he's the only one who ever saw that cosmic shit
The script started as a Terror modernization with a lesbian romantic duo lead and female non-American director to get diversity points on social media. They then bought True Detective IP and paid pizzaman for his name to be attached as exec producer to lure in old show fans.
But this is not a True Detective show in any way. It only seems more "paranormal" because its reference is actually S1 The Terror, not True Detective.
I wish Hollywood wasn't so cynical, it's frustrating. I won't even be pirating the rest of the season.
The plot has literally nothing to do with the Terror though.
You realize that was based on the Franklin expedition, right? How is that at all related to this? Being set in the arctic and involving Eskimo shit is not that.
It's literally supernatural native spirits, representing earth mother GAIA expressing rage against colonial, white male, "science" as represented by the research station and the team. How is that any different from The Terror, which was the same native/nature resistance to white colonial invasion into native land?
>How is that any different from The Terror,
Idk, maybe because it’s a murder mystery and not a bunch of British guys on a boat trying to find the northwest passage
And that’s related to what, exactly?
The monster in the Terror wasn’t a polar bear
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no you're right it was a half-man shaman polar bear chimera. definitely not just a hyper aggressive polar bear seen and portrayed as supernatural to the mutinous, lead-poisoned, illiterate, religious, and malnourished Englishmen who murdered the Eskimaux and then started getting fricked up as the expedition dragged on by their poor leader decisions. in this season of TD they just fricking lead off with the supernatural like thats what TD has always been (it fricking isnt) when I thought I was in for some serial killer detective kino with cult themes. Also, the real crime is not casting pic rel alongside Jodie foster.
also >le strong combat veteran female cop trooper forces frick buddy to cum inside her with a smile on her face as he says no
because rape is cool and no doesnt actually mean no, right? what did the female writer mean by this???
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furthermore, the postcolonial elements I referenced here
>implying s4 is neonoir >not seeing the exact same subtext and very similar imagery >not understanding what ESG is or knowing what postcolonial themes and climate change resistance narratives are
You are brain dead.
are completely hamfisted and have nothing to do with TD as originally conceived by Pizzolatto. Blatant copy-paste job from a rejected Terror update script, and you'd have to be brain dead to miss it.
5 months ago
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Am I the only homosexual who did some literature and media courses at college? I feel like you and me are the only ones picking up on this shit. The "durrr they aren't English so it can't reference Terror durr" tards are disappointing if real.
5 months ago
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It’s more that you’re too moronic to understand the difference between a “reference” and the entire project being a modernization of The Terror
Some anon called it last thread.
The script started as a Terror modernization with a lesbian romantic duo lead and female non-American director to get diversity points on social media. They then bought True Detective IP and paid pizzaman for his name to be attached as exec producer to lure in old show fans.
But this is not a True Detective show in any way. It only seems more "paranormal" because its reference is actually S1 The Terror, not True Detective.
I wish Hollywood wasn't so cynical, it's frustrating. I won't even be pirating the rest of the season.
5 months ago
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You're just naive. This is like BR2049 all over again. The script NEVER started as a Blade Runner sequel. It was a man falls in love with his AI assistant drama ala Her (see how things can be referenced and keep their thematic connections?) and then got the BR IP for cheap, signed Harrison on, remixed Vangelis' original score, and the convoluted abortion we received is the result. Does that sound familiar to you after watching S4 e1 of "True Detective"?
5 months ago
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I can readily believe that it didn’t start as a TD script but I highly doubt it started as a modernization of The Terror. Like at least put them on a boat homie.
5 months ago
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Again, stop stressing on those visual details. It's the thematic elements that matter to these ESG types. White colonialism/masculinity bad, nature/native/femininity good. This is how things start in these meetings and various deals are made between agents and producers until you get nostalgia-gayging mixed reference abortions like this show and many others in Hollywood post-2000.
5 months ago
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Sorry bruv I just don’t see it. Cheers.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I just rewatched Terror S1 yesterday. You are wrong. You have been wrong in every thread you spam with your dumb theory. That people reply to you is apalling. I'm going to go jerk off to the idea of Mr. Collins and I jacking each other off on a potent mixture of cocaine and wine now.
5 months ago
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This. It is about climate change.
5 months ago
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so was the terror
5 months ago
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like i thought they were done with doing this shit? i thought they learnt their lesson with shit like bud light and watchmen
5 months ago
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furthermore, the postcolonial elements I referenced here[...] are completely hamfisted and have nothing to do with TD as originally conceived by Pizzolatto. Blatant copy-paste job from a rejected Terror update script, and you'd have to be brain dead to miss it.
Diff anon here. I never went to college and all anyone knows from the Terror is bears, boats, cold weather. Without explaining you are implying these things. You can call me stupid names but this is how Cinemaphile sees it. No one watched that show. Thanks.
5 months ago
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I was here when The Terror and TD s1 were showing new episodes each week. The Terror s1 was a very popular show here.
5 months ago
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Cinemaphile wasn't always this shitty, either. Doesn't really mean anything.
Ah yes how could we forget, the boats. If there are no boats then TD4 cannot be said to have the same themes as TT. lmao
You must be the college educated anon.
>No one watched that show.
have a nice day newbie
Cinemaphile adores The Terror season 1
Ok
[...]
fricking moron, The Terror was all about them NOT being on a boat
So it was an online community college?
5 months ago
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Ah yes how could we forget, the boats. If there are no boats then TD4 cannot be said to have the same themes as TT. lmao
5 months ago
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>No one watched that show.
have a nice day newbie
Cinemaphile adores The Terror season 1
5 months ago
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I can readily believe that it didn’t start as a TD script but I highly doubt it started as a modernization of The Terror. Like at least put them on a boat homie.
fricking moron, The Terror was all about them NOT being on a boat
5 months ago
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It was also about them not being in Alaska so b***h fricked that up too
5 months ago
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Cinemaphile wasn't always this shitty, either. Doesn't really mean anything.
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You must be the college educated anon.
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Ok
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So it was an online community college?
le spooky eskimo ghosts and polar barrrrrrr
ooooo it has one eyeeeeeeee
just like the girl who was beat to death had one of her eyes all fricked upppppp
its a revenge polar barrrrr eskimo spirittttt just like The Terrorrrr
5 months ago
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yep. finally someone gets it
5 months ago
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[...]
Diff anon here. I never went to college and all anyone knows from the Terror is bears, boats, cold weather. Without explaining you are implying these things. You can call me stupid names but this is how Cinemaphile sees it. No one watched that show. Thanks.
5 months ago
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loved this dude in Longmire
5 months ago
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I recognised him from Resolution
5 months ago
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>definitely not just a hyper aggressive polar bear seen and portrayed as supernatural to the mutinous, lead-poisoned, illiterate, religious, and malnourished Englishmen who murdered the Eskimaux and then started getting fricked up as the expedition dragged on by their poor leader decisions
Glad we agree on what was clearly shown in the show as an unambiguously supernatural threat that had been envisioned by the dead and dying crewmen far before they got lead poisoned
Beyond referencing native lengends there really isn’t anything there, I’m sorry anon. They don’t even take place in the same setting, the Franklin expedition was nowhere near Alaska.
5 months ago
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>it has to be literally the same place and plot to be comparable.
dumb.
It’s not the time period and nationality, dumbass. The plots have literally nothing to do with each other. Not even the same genre.
5 months ago
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>implying s4 is neonoir >not seeing the exact same subtext and very similar imagery >not understanding what ESG is or knowing what postcolonial themes and climate change resistance narratives are
You are brain dead.
Wrong, it was about a sexually frustrated ginger who managed to survive and was gifted with unsullied virgin native pussy and a clean slate within a based off-grid tribe due to him being the only one who didn't give in and have gay sex.
It's about how God's wrath will kill all gays sooner or later.
>It's literally supernatural native spirits, representing earth mother GAIA expressing rage against colonial, white male, "science" as represented by the research station and the team.
holy shit this is the most brain dead “theory” I have ever seen lmao >it’s in space bro it’s LITERALLY Star Wars
show is garbage for entirely different reasons
You're the one who isn't able to read subtext, tard.
See:
It's literally supernatural native spirits, representing earth mother GAIA expressing rage against colonial, white male, "science" as represented by the research station and the team. How is that any different from The Terror, which was the same native/nature resistance to white colonial invasion into native land?
just like the girl who was beat to death had one of her eyes all fricked upppppp
its a revenge polar barrrrr eskimo spirittttt just like The Terrorrrr
Again, stop stressing on those visual details. It's the thematic elements that matter to these ESG types. White colonialism/masculinity bad, nature/native/femininity good. This is how things start in these meetings and various deals are made between agents and producers until you get nostalgia-gayging mixed reference abortions like this show and many others in Hollywood post-2000.
Alright. Let's get a list of shows going it is similar to other than The Terror. I'll start:
LOST (polar bear)
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The Golden Compass
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Fortitude >Perched on the edge of the Arctic Circle, Fortitude is one of the safest towns on earth. There has never been a violent crime here. Until now.
Also has Christopher Eccleston so it's definitely a shared cinematic universe.
it's really weird, i understand a prime directive to push propaganda, but don't they even care a tiny little bit to pick actual actors.
main actors suck, but all injuns here are *terrible*, and it's not because there are no good actors, mel gibson made a fricking apocalypto and all actors are fricking brilliant.
Real nice how the ugly b***h raped that dude. Imagine if the first season had Woody holding a girl down while she struggled, jizzing into her against her will while he smiled.
I don't know what that journalist was smoking when she wrote that, there is no anti-white sentiment at all, at least in the first episode. There is some feminism but not one that is currently in vogue, it's more about egalitarianism, basically old school type feminism. What is wrong with environmentalism? We all depend on the environment to provide us with nourishment and raw material for technology for example.
Then it's revealed the reason she couldn't solve the case is because WHITEY DONE TOOK HER OFF DA CASE!
5 months ago
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Who are you even talking about in this post, spic-kun? Which whitey?
5 months ago
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Who knows, I guess we have to wait it out. But from the way it was framed on the episode, it seems that taking cheeky-piercings off the case was a sound decision by Jodie Foster's character.
Who are you even talking about in this post, spic-kun? Which whitey?
>there's no anti-white sentiment at all >the only single instance of anti-white sentiment is challenged >all the multiple instances of anti-white sentiment are ambiguous and debatable
Interesting progression...
5 months ago
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Which whitey, spic-san? Why can't you name the character unless you didn't watch the episode?
> What is wrong with environmentalism?
Because they’re always hypocritical about it, like maybe They should tackle Taylor swift and hbo executives flying around on their private jets instead of “small mining town”
True. Not to mention the bankers that basically own the world and are in charge of most of the worldwide criminal syndicates, which do illegal mining that absolutely wrecks the environment probably permanently. Not to mention they are the reason behind all the conflicts around african countries, so they can keep mining and destoying that continent.
[...] >there's no anti-white sentiment at all >the only single instance of anti-white sentiment is challenged >all the multiple instances of anti-white sentiment are ambiguous and debatable
Interesting progression...
Tell us more about those "anti-white" instances. I seem to have missed them all!
Ad hominem. Which "anti-white" instances? Describe one.
>this is her second acting role
wow, someone saw her first acting credit and decided she was a right fit for this role? the only role i can think suitable for her as of now is to try and scare the evil presence by herself based on her perpetual pissed and annoyed tone and look delivered in a hammy and clunky manner
Lmao, true.
Was it just me or did Jodie Foster's adopted daughter admit to filming child porn? WTF?
Imagine if it was a male.
5 months ago
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>if you put me as a israelite that’s a uh.., >yeah, ‘ad hominem’
Pissrael won’t survive this century
5 months ago
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LMAO, I am not a Zio-Nazi, what makes you say that?
5 months ago
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>Zio-Nazi
Poor choice of oxy-moronic words
5 months ago
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It is as if the Nazis weren't some neo-pagan racist death cult.
like all i got from it was
white man bad,
also white people in general bad and don't care about other races
white people don't care about other races superstitions or religions
white people are in charge and oppress all the other races
also le mining is bad for the environment
and bad cgi
some dude hitting some woman at work over a domestic thing, later on he's seen talking with a buddy about doing more violent acts against women and the black cop chick vandalises his truck because he hekkin deserved it ex-chief who is an old white man is a dufus, who's getting a mail order bride who keeps police evidence at his premises and gate keeps people from being allowed access to it so he's probably in on the murder the black female detective said the girl that was killed would have had the whole state searching for her if she was white the new white female chief constantly belittles her counterpart's especially about their religious belief's new white chief before the story began demoted the black officer because she was poking around the wrong people aka the person who owns the mine or some shit and it's also eluded that she got taken off the case over a petty lovers spat between her and the black female officer girl that was killed was protesting against the mine also black woman officer literally rapes some dude but that's fine
imho it's how a person who has never worked in a professional position from some leftist country filled with leftist ideology that has rampant corruption and violence assumes that people would behave like that in a first world country in a professional environment
Cheeky-piercings is basically a loose cannon like Velcoro. If she was a male you wouldn't be complaining about this. And that other detective also shares many of Velcoro's characteristics.
I am complaining about the theme's of the show not the character's themselves.
but if wanna get into the characters black chick walks onto a murder scene without permission like in real life you can't do these things it's fricking comical
>velcoro's motives are to find the guy that raped his wife
this chick just thinks white man bad and white people bad
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>black chick walks onto a murder scene without permission like in real life you can't do these things it's fricking comical
You're acting as if the fricking FBI was handling the case. What an ESL perspective.
5 months ago
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see
I am complaining about the theme's of the show not the character's themselves.
but if wanna get into the characters black chick walks onto a murder scene without permission like in real life you can't do these things it's fricking comical
>velcoro's motives are to find the guy that raped his wife
this chick just thinks white man bad and white people bad
>You're acting as if the fricking FBI was handling the case.
now you are being disingenuous and arguing in bad faith and guess what if a whole bunch of foreign nationals die yeah it usually becomes a federal case....
how about that for reality. The chief would literally go hey this is way to big for us and since these guys are all foreigners the fbi should handle it because they have the resources to deal with it. We should just preserve the crime scene until they get here as to not contaminate it.
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>if a whole bunch of foreign nationals die yeah it usually becomes a federal case....
wtf are you talking about? confirmed for having never set foot in the United States.
5 months ago
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Even fricking Killers of the Flower Moon makes it clear that nobody gives a shit about natives.
5 months ago
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it is you that has never been in a western country my friend.
5 months ago
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Central Americans will literally be cooked to death by the dozens in the back of trailer trucks and it barely makes a blip in the news cycle. You are really smoking crack if you think the typical response to dead foreigners in America is call the FBI.
5 months ago
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lol illegal aliens sitting outside of lowe's waiting for their next gardening gig =/= foreign nationals that have visa's are working on a massive science project right?
5 months ago
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Well first of all they weren't confirmed dead until the final shot of the episode, so it makes sense that local authorities would he conducting the search. Secondly, if you think your plight as a "white collar" green card status wagie is going to confer immediate attention from the FBI you are definitely posting from Europe or Australia.
5 months ago
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>Secondly, if you think your plight as a "white collar" green card status wagie is going to confer immediate attention from the FBI you are definitely posting from Europe or Australia.
Explain to me how local police are going to investigate a case where they possibly need to contact foreign governments for info?
5 months ago
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Why the frick would you need to contact a foreign national's government to investigate their murder? If I stab some German tourist to death in the middle of time Square, what can the German government contribute to that investigation?
5 months ago
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>Why the frick would you need to contact a foreign national's government to investigate their murder?
Why indeed when it was made clear to the audience, and Jodie noticed it too, that one of the researchers was doing a video call to his family at the time of the researchers disappearing from the station? Some local state police has the authority to contact foreign relatives for questioning?
5 months ago
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>Some local state police has the authority to contact foreign relatives for questioning?
Yes, why wouldn't they? I as a private citizen could contact their relatives as a reporter and ask them any question I want. Even if for whatever reason the overseas witness refuses contact, the next step would be getting a warrant for a copy of the communication from the service provider, which is something local courts can order.
5 months ago
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>You are really smoking crack if you think the typical response to dead foreigners in America is call the FBI.
There is a difference between illegal immigrants and fricking PhD researchers that are in the country with proper visas, you fricking dumbass.
5 months ago
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>with proper visas >he honestly, genuinely believes US agencies give a shit about that
5 months ago
Anonymous
You are so fricking dumb it hurts to read your posts.
Of course they would immediately escalate it to the FBI in a real world scenario, because literally hundreds of millions of dollars are tied up in research grants in places like that, dipshit. Having foreign university researchers die in your research station is bad PR.
5 months ago
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it's like this bro the victims families will want answers and go to their own governments over the incident
something like this would make global news
the foreign nation's the victim's are from will put pressure on the u.s.a. to figure out what the frick happened
they wouldn't just allow some police chief to handle it, the fbi would be asked to take over and investigate
>Of course they would immediately escalate it to the FBI in a real world scenario
No they wouldn't. We'd hear about missing native women and murdered native men every week if that was the case. You're so fricking brainwashed by American TV shows and films about the FBI that you genuinely think they're the good guys.
5 months ago
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i know you're just intentionally being disingenuous because you lost the argument but remember
You mean SEMANTICS, you stupid fricking ape?
GOTTEM
5 months ago
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They absolutely would, you fricking moron.
>You're so fricking brainwashed by American TV shows and films about the FBI that you genuinely think they're the good guys.
Where did I say the FBI are the good guys, moron-kun? I literally said that the reason they would escalate it to the FBI is because of money.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Well give it time, but considering that the single unifying theme of True Detecrive is that institutional authority doesn't actually give a shit about the crimes being investigated on the show, I think you're pretty moronic for anticipating FBI involvement.
5 months ago
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Yeah I don't think the cops in Season 1 were boobs that couldn't even handle turning off a TV while setting up right next to it. Shit belongs on the Disney channel yo.
5 months ago
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The guys they worked with were for sure.
5 months ago
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>the single unifying theme of True Detecrive is that institutional authority doesn't actually give a shit about the crimes being investigated on the show
Institutional authorities do care about money.
Calling it now, in the next few episodes someone in the show will b***h about how nobody cared about native women being murdered, but that the moment that white men are killed the FBI storms in guns blazing.
5 months ago
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Lol OK let's see. Majority of the dead scientists weren't white men btw. You clearly have a chip on your shoulder.
5 months ago
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I don't give a shit about the ethnicities of the murdered men, but it is quite clearly one of the themes they are going to talk about in the show.
A local chick getting murdered isn't a big deal. If the entire staff of a research station vanishes and all that is found is a tongue, and none of their families have heard from them, then it should probably be escalated to at least a larger neighboring agency that doesn't have their chief of police personally investigating cases.
Well they escalated it enough that there were choppers searching for the lost researchers. That's beyond just the local town police already.
5 months ago
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A town in Alaska that only exists because there is a mine there will definitely have police choppers. Lots of places in Alaska aren't even connected to any major intrastate highways.
5 months ago
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Yes, some very rural departments have small aircraft or helicopters when otherwise a department of their size wouldn't. But either they have really dropped the ball in portraying how large the department actually is, or it appears to be less than 10 people.
5 months ago
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>Well they escalated it enough that there were choppers searching for the lost researchers. That's beyond just the local town police already.
Yes and in reality they wouldn't have handled the injun homicide either. I know a nearby city with a little under a hundred officers that does have their own airship and bearcat, and yet when there is a homicide it's handed off to county sheriffs homicide detectives.
5 months ago
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A local chick getting murdered isn't a big deal. If the entire staff of a research station vanishes and all that is found is a tongue, and none of their families have heard from them, then it should probably be escalated to at least a larger neighboring agency that doesn't have their chief of police personally investigating cases.
5 months ago
Anonymous
it's like this bro the victims families will want answers and go to their own governments over the incident
something like this would make global news
the foreign nation's the victim's are from will put pressure on the u.s.a. to figure out what the frick happened
they wouldn't just allow some police chief to handle it, the fbi would be asked to take over and investigate
5 months ago
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>velcoro's motives are to find the guy that raped his wife
>this chick just thinks white man bad and white people bad
My point is that both of them have a hair-trigger temper and usually express their aggression in a physical way.
The issue for me is the music, not only the intro but spread throughout the episode, somehow I feel that settings in arctic should have some majestic haunting scores like as in terror and northern water
the use of music in this ep was the worst I've seen
this is the last i'm watching anything written or directed by a woman ever again
what a waste of time
This isn't good but it's not offensively bad enough for me to not watch it yet. Outside of Foster, the performances are pretty shit especially the kid cop and the eskimo cop
Yea that bothered me too. Like, I will ignore the SJW pandering and the forced attempts at tying TD franchise elements like the Ligotti story name for the research station, with the clear Terror season 1 reference, but underneath it all, as some anons have said: the production values are meh, music is meh, writing is meh, and the characters are old, ugly and boring. What am I left with here? I don't care about the murders at all because there was no context, no world building in the town, the entire show is just hiding how shallow it is with lots of complex but mundane details. Way too many characters and none of them are interesting.
obviously you didn't pay attention on how preparing sandwich for kids makes you a better detective because you know how mayo looks after 48h, also because you know how clothes smell in the washing machine, because you actually wash clothes.
also you didn't appreciate the subtlety of main character relation with her native (adopted?) daughter that makes porn movies.
you would understand these things if you were a woman and NOT A FRICKING WHITE MAN
Rust gays are so tiring. He was an interesting character that was decently fleshed out for sure and made S1 as fun as it was. But god damn S1 had a lot of filler in it for normalgays. It had nowhere near the world building or subtext that S2 had, which filtered a lot of people.
LIES! LIAR! Rust and Marty started out as a very watchable dynamic duo. They were individually miserable but worked together to create a fun enivornment for the plot to develop.
Not really. A key point of S1 is the fact that Rust and Marty are individually misarable violent pricks (for different reasons), but their chemistry when working together ties the whole thing neatly. If the show was about just one or the other, they'd be awful, but together they become likeable.
They want us to start it so that they can point and say “see normies? The following repression will be totally justified!” Jan 6 was supposed to be the starting point but it ended up fizzling out (they still try to talk it up though)
I just want it to be a serious and adult crime drama without this immature nonsense like S2. S1, S3 and this are unwatchable pseud nonsense. Pizzaman was at his best in S2.
Rust gays are so tiring. He was an interesting character that was decently fleshed out for sure and made S1 as fun as it was. But god damn S1 had a lot of filler in it for normalgays. It had nowhere near the world building or subtext that S2 had, which filtered a lot of people.
Hard agree. Sadly S2 filtered about 70% of Cinemaphile too.
S2 had some strong points and the whole "everything is fricked" theme was really well done. Not bittersweet ending, no light at the end of tunnel, only darkness and compromise. Problem is, the weak parts are really bad. The whole "Casper this, Casper that", all Vince Vaughn parts are really boring, some scenes have convoluted dialogue/bad pacing. Still a great season, totally filtered Cinemaphile.
I really loved Vaughn, personally. Even the gay guy and the woman were interesting characters. It felt like there was representation in the character development and they all were tied together for the central plot and themes well instead of just tossed in for pandering. I find S2 incredibly rewatchable, S1 not so much. I still do find S1 to be better than 99% of TV ever made though. I guess it's why S3 and now S4 were so disappointing for me. I didn't care S2 bombed at all, but S3 needed to have been better. They took the worst parts of S1 with the relational filler that had no implications on the plot and was just there for sex scenes to appeal to bored house wives and brought that back, thinking it was why S2 failed. This is why we cannot have nice things.
I agree that Frank was important, and Vaughn gave a great performance (also Kelly Reilly was hot af). But the way they shot and edited their scenes, I don't know. It's just broke the whole pace of most episodes for me. I felt that they wasted what should have been the best part of the show.
I think if you enjoyed the plot to character development content ratio of S1 you definitely could have doubled the episodes of S2. But I personally loved the fast pacing, it made it feel energetic and real; worth rewatching to see parts you missed rather than having to sit through forced scenes that were added to keep the narrative interesting; like S1's ghetto cash grab action scene (well done, but shoe horned in and completely worthless to the plot or themes of the show). S2 feels very lean to me in comparison but on rewatching there is a lot of subtext and subtle messaging there.
5 months ago
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also had the best soundtrack
5 months ago
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Yea, and I really liked S1 too, so that is saying something.
I really loved Vaughn, personally. Even the gay guy and the woman were interesting characters. It felt like there was representation in the character development and they all were tied together for the central plot and themes well instead of just tossed in for pandering. I find S2 incredibly rewatchable, S1 not so much. I still do find S1 to be better than 99% of TV ever made though. I guess it's why S3 and now S4 were so disappointing for me. I didn't care S2 bombed at all, but S3 needed to have been better. They took the worst parts of S1 with the relational filler that had no implications on the plot and was just there for sex scenes to appeal to bored house wives and brought that back, thinking it was why S2 failed. This is why we cannot have nice things.
Hwat? They might not have been likable as people if you had to spend time with them in reality, but they were likable as characters. They were incredibly interesting and entertaining.
>ruined the opening with billie eilish zoomoid dogshit >issa lopez too preoccupied with muh strong women, id politics, and brown fragility to produce anything but pure slop >cringe dialogue, literally unwatchable even if you can somehow look past all of the formerly mentioned garbage
imagine taking the one series you have left that still has potential value and running it into the ground in an attempt to capture an audience that doesnt even exist lmao
>imagine taking the one series you have left that still has potential value and running it into the ground in an attempt to capture an audience that doesnt even exist lmao
They shoulda given Saulner a second chance after he quit in season 3. Let him write/direct a whole season.
>I'm going to quote you when the finale looks moronic because it's not supernatural
It'll be >mining company was doing illegal stuff to the environment >murdered girl found out and threatened to expose >whatever mining company is doing infected the water and people are hallucinating
>random picture slightly related to television and film >vague praises with no specific point
Every fricking time. HBO shills are lazy and paid less than minimum wage. They use pictures of any origin because they believe it will attract attention to their post and validate it because of bunk pschological bullshit. It's pathetic. Ignore these posters. This show is beyond terrible.
>giving them bonus cash for replies
You three are really good at this shill battle.
That's not how you do it. You do it by pointing out the ways their show is shit. Like, how every character is putting on fake hostility and after the other person they're talking with calls them on it, the characters proceed to talk to each other like they are only speaking at gunpoint.
>random picture slightly related to television and film >vague praises with no specific point
Every fricking time. HBO shills are lazy and paid less than minimum wage. They use pictures of any origin because they believe it will attract attention to their post and validate it because of bunk pschological bullshit. It's pathetic. Ignore these posters. This show is beyond terrible.
Embarrassing shill
Not shilling, I'm expecting it to turn into a man hating woke mess but the first ep wasn't that bad. You guys see frickin shills in your sleep.
>random picture slightly related to television and film >vague praises with no specific point
Every fricking time. HBO shills are lazy and paid less than minimum wage. They use pictures of any origin because they believe it will attract attention to their post and validate it because of bunk pschological bullshit. It's pathetic. Ignore these posters. This show is beyond terrible.
So why are they using a Billie Eilish song as the theme? The theme songs to the other seasons had relevance to both series themes and location, what does this song have to do with either?
>hey Jodie, I think the scientists are just out having a walk >now, about this severed human tongue we're standing over
>oh jeez Jodie, you want me to elbow my gf and steal some documents from my dad? >yea Morty, don't worry he's not gonna check first thing after you leave his apartment >oh jeez Jodie, my dad is gonna kill me, i'm so inept I can't turn off a TV and I'll just sit next to it while working
Also how did she know the sandwich had mayo on it before flipping it open?
So I assume that every thread this season is just going to be hatewatchers complaining about identity politics cause it lives rent free in their heads?
this >tourist shills outing themselves this easily
grim
he's probably brown too lmao
Damn friends, I was shitposting on my laptop in bed but its a shame you guys are so mind broken. Here's a webm I saved from eurovision 2015 that I went to my computer just to post for you guys, enjoy!
hebrew box office cant help themselves
anyone could see letting a subhuman like issa lopez, who is preoccupied with identity politics, get their hands on something like this would be a disaster
like all i got from it was
white man bad,
also white people in general bad and don't care about other races
white people don't care about other races superstitions or religions
white people are in charge and oppress all the other races
also le mining is bad for the environment
and bad cgi
some dude hitting some woman at work over a domestic thing, later on he's seen talking with a buddy about doing more violent acts against women and the black cop chick vandalises his truck because he hekkin deserved it ex-chief who is an old white man is a dufus, who's getting a mail order bride who keeps police evidence at his premises and gate keeps people from being allowed access to it so he's probably in on the murder the black female detective said the girl that was killed would have had the whole state searching for her if she was white the new white female chief constantly belittles her counterpart's especially about their religious belief's new white chief before the story began demoted the black officer because she was poking around the wrong people aka the person who owns the mine or some shit and it's also eluded that she got taken off the case over a petty lovers spat between her and the black female officer girl that was killed was protesting against the mine also black woman officer literally rapes some dude but that's fine
imho it's how a person who has never worked in a professional position from some leftist country filled with leftist ideology that has rampant corruption and violence assumes that people would behave like that in a first world country in a professional environment
>imho it's how a person who has never worked in a professional position from some leftist country filled with leftist ideology that has rampant corruption and violence assumes that people would behave like that in a first world country in a professional environment
>Just in the small western village of Stebbins, Hopkins reported with a team last week, every police officer pleaded guilty to domestic violence charges within the last 10 years. The seven officers had served time in jails, prisons or halfway houses, according to the newspaper. Only one officer had ever received any kind of formal law enforcement training.
>The reporting focused mainly on village and tribal police officers. Hopkins told NPR that the problem stems not just from a lack of funding and a shortage of people who want to work as officers, but from a broken regulatory and background check process.
It's not a quip, your citation refers to communities that aren't policed by real government law enforcement agencies that have actual guidelines and regulations. Tribal lands have no federal oversight and can do whatever the frick they want. They're shitholes and that's why they have such a problem with missing women which hollywood likes to blame on white men for some reason.
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>by real government law
We both know you don't give a shit about government law, so why the frick do you have to nitpick this issue you clearly don't want to accept as solved? Guess what: Alaska isn't like your Hispanic country. Nobody gives a shit about piercings like you hispanics do.
5 months ago
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>so why the frick do you have to nitpick this issue you clearly don't want to accept as solved?
Because the show is about real law enforcement agencies that have some semblance of standards and you're citing tribal police which are completely different as a valid comparison and justification for something in the show.
5 months ago
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>real law enforcement agencies
I thought tribal police was a fake police, spic-kun. Can you make up your mind?
see [...]
>You're acting as if the fricking FBI was handling the case.
now you are being disingenuous and arguing in bad faith and guess what if a whole bunch of foreign nationals die yeah it usually becomes a federal case....
how about that for reality. The chief would literally go hey this is way to big for us and since these guys are all foreigners the fbi should handle it because they have the resources to deal with it. We should just preserve the crime scene until they get here as to not contaminate it.
The black cop found the crime scene, speedwatcher. She didn't "walk into" anything.
5 months ago
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>I thought tribal police was a fake police
They are. The two law enforcement agencies we've seen so far in the show are real agencies. Someone complained about how someone from a real police department is portrayed, and then you justified it by posting people from the aforementioned fake tribal police.
5 months ago
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>The two law enforcement agencies we've seen so far in the show are real agencies
Says who, spic-kun? They have less jurisdictional rights than the tribal police.
its all supernatural hogwash
Who cares? That's what people thought about season one, and even though it dropped those elements everyone sucks its wiener.
5 months ago
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its all supernatural hogwash
5 months ago
Anonymous
>The black cop found the crime scene, speedwatcher. She didn't "walk into" anything.
ok you didn't watch the show because if you did you'd know that the delivery driver called it after everyone was missing and only finding a tounge then the chief and the other male officers came their and called in a missing person's operation if you'd watched the show you'd know black chick and jodie foster work at the same fricking station and she was aware of the whereabouts of the crime scene through just talking with jodie foster's charater lol in her office
5 months ago
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>he can't tell the difference between the crime scene with the tongue and the crime scene with the actual native woman
Dumb fricking speedwatcher.
5 months ago
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>ok you are now le troll
after losing the argument
5 months ago
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>homosexual comeback
You know it helps to actually watch the shows you're decrying, right?
5 months ago
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>if you'd watched the show you'd know black chick and jodie foster work at the same fricking station
They don't anymore.
5 months ago
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homosexual speedwatcher can't even keep track of simple details such as "Jodie Foster wasn't even in town when the native woman's murder happened".
5 months ago
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He was talking about pierced cheeks going into the research station.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Jodie also broke in at the end of the episode, speedwatcher. You'd know this if you actually watched the whole episode.
5 months ago
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Jodie is the Chief of Police and it's her jurisdiction. She can't break into her own crime scene. Black chick is a statie or something now which is why Jodie told her that it wasn't her jurisdiction.
5 months ago
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>She can't break into her own crime scene
She most definitely can, you stupid Hispanic frick. Just the fact that she walked into the crime scene without letting anyone else now jeopardizes the investigation. How fricking dumb are you?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Who was she supposed to let know? The lab techs that it doesn't look like they have on staff? The investigators which they also don't have because she's doing it herself as the chief?
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Who was she supposed to let know?
Her superiors and anyone else investigating the case, such as the father/son pair.
It helps when you watch the show, you know?
5 months ago
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>Her superiors
She's the chief of police.
5 months ago
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>chief of police
I can't think of a lowlier position than that, ESL-kun.
5 months ago
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It's standard procedure to just discount the finger prints of any and all law enforcement on crime scene evidence in America. If you've got a badge you're good to go. Are you suggesting this keystone cop mining town in Alaska has some kind of strict chain of evidence rules? Lmao
5 months ago
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>he can't tell the difference between the crime scene with the tongue and the crime scene with the actual native woman
Dumb fricking speedwatcher.
you do no she didn't find the crime scene of the girl she was told where it was by local's right?
5 months ago
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>ESL word salad
5 months ago
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>sematics
i just put it in pigeon english so you understand
5 months ago
Anonymous
You mean SEMANTICS, you stupid fricking ape?
5 months ago
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GOTTEM
5 months ago
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>if you'd watched the show you'd know black chick and jodie foster work at the same fricking station
No they don't, moron.
5 months ago
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>The black cop found the crime scene, speedwatcher
lol
5 months ago
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>so why the frick do you have to nitpick this issue you clearly don't want to accept as solved?
Because the show is about real law enforcement agencies that have some semblance of standards and you're citing tribal police which are completely different as a valid comparison and justification for something in the show.
>I thought tribal police was a fake police
They are. The two law enforcement agencies we've seen so far in the show are real agencies. Someone complained about how someone from a real police department is portrayed, and then you justified it by posting people from the aforementioned fake tribal police.
>Report: At least 14 Alaska cities have officers with records
>ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) — At least 14 cities in Alaska have employed police officers whose criminal records should have prevented them from being hired under state law, the Anchorage Daily News and ProPublica reported Saturday.
The news organizations said they found more than 34 officers who should have been ineligible for these jobs. In all but three cases, the police hires were never reported by the city governments to the state’s Department of Public Safety, as required, the Daily News and ProPublica reported.
In eight additional communities, local tribal governments have hired tribal police officers convicted of domestic violence or sex crimes, the news organizations reported.
>All 42 of these tribal and city police officers have rap sheets that would prevent them from being hired by the Anchorage Police Department and its urban peers, as Alaska state troopers or even as private security guards most anywhere else in the United States, the news organizations said. Many remain on the job.
Just saw it. It was ok, i was expecting the diversity bullshit to be worse so the spoopy theme kinda kept me interested.
Might even be a kino season if someone goes through all the episodes and cuts out the woke scenes.
I mean when I first saw the intro I was kinda worried since I did not expect some pop song to be in it, also worrying was the lack of the double exposure effect.
Then when the episode finally hit, about 25 minutes in on the episode I was relieved. Yea it's obviously nowhere as good as S01 but it's still quite acceptable material, I kinda wish they were more subtle about the paranormal aspects as it was on S01 but oh well, at least it is Lovecraftian enough, I like most of the characters, the leads are not woke stereotypes and there was no pandering or wokeism-like themes, the two other white detectives are not buffons or macho types. I think it will be slightly better than S02 and S03, but there is no way to know for sure, time will tell.
positives
jodi foster - best actor by far on the show
good setting - seems underutilised at this stage though
intriguing mystery - and by that i mean the relation between the activist's parka and the one shared by the lab guy, the missing persons are a close second, the crazy lady and the dancing guru dead guy, who cares?
negatives
listless episode, not gripping enough, meandering in many sections
shitty fricking acting by all the support cast, the second lead is painfully bad to watch and not just because of her pierced cheeks, she does not seem to be "into" scenes that require talking; the only other half-decent acting is by the kidcop, dadcop is unable to sell himself of as a deadbeat scumbag and just comes of as undercooked and uninterested
bad music, pedestrian dialogues, not enough atmosphere or drama created for the horror mystery that it was supposed to be
that is the only mystery developed so far, compare how much time was devoted to the missing scientists against talking about the old unsolved case of a dead activist, this show is clearly about solving that unsolved case, the missing persons are a side focus, which is why the connection of the parka is the only thing to look forward to next week, the missing guys are a mcguffin
>the second lead is painfully bad to watch
yeah. this is her second acting role. not sure what the frick they were thinking given the cast in all prior seasons
>this is her second acting role
wow, someone saw her first acting credit and decided she was a right fit for this role? the only role i can think suitable for her as of now is to try and scare the evil presence by herself based on her perpetual pissed and annoyed tone and look delivered in a hammy and clunky manner
The tone worked when it was extremely gritty, grounded, and hinted at possible supernatural elements but always left it ambiguous. Having literal ghosts and shit in the opening episode swings things too far the other direction.
How is it a crime scene when there's nothing stopping anyone from going in? Not like there's any police tape around stuff, I don't think they even locked the place after they left the first time. None of them act like police, nothing is believable.
Not to single you out but I feel like a lot of people are genuinely failing to register that the cops in this town are supposed to be back water rednecks with zero professionalism.
is it just me or is every dialogue/character interaction weirdly offputting? and they're just carpet bombing in visions/dreams/hocus pocus. doesn't feel like any of the prior seasons so far.
i just watched it. Jodie Foster plays a fun character. The black girl playing a native is kind of weird. Couldn't you find a native American to play it? or is she one of those 1/16th native Americans we euros always see on tv. I like how the white dude unashamedly tells everyone about his Russian mailbride.
Girl boss kicks ass of much larger male is a no go. 15 year old girl makes a porn with her 16 year old gf, sure we get a bit or nice pc drama. Overall there's too many ugly people in this show. The wailing fat whale was annoying. The ugly freak sister is hideous to look at. The chick with the piercings? is this what the young folk look like nowadays?
anyhow I guess TD has always been about the miserable people of society. I guess making em look like misfits was just the next step.
No, not really. I dont remember season 1 being "lovecraftian" either. Anyway the season has two female detectives as the leads and so I have no interest as it will inevitably be boring
>Anyway the season has two female detectives as the leads and so I have no interest as it will inevitably be boring
That information has been announced for close to a year now. How is I you’re the first person to respond to this thread at damn near 3 in the morning on the night the episode premieres talking about how much you DON’T care about the show and how UNinterested you are about this thing that’s been public knowledge for months.
Do you get paid to be a professional hater or something? Just admit you’re a fricking fan an move on already
>r*ddit spacing
Possibly the worst anons on here are the ones that insist you must write more like a moron to fit in with the fellow morons
Writing in paragraphs is not “reddit spacing” you absolute fricking moron. Do you ever read things that aren’t Cinemaphile?
I live in a different timezone. The time is different for me, anon. I didn't know when it premiered. Does making a thread at 3am mean you are a professional shill?
lol I’m not op, and I definitely wasn’t the very first one who came running to announce how DISinterested they were in discovering information about this show that had been publicly available for nearly a decade year before it came out literally on the night the show premiered. That’s some impressive dedication to hater-ship.
>I JUST CAME HERE TO SAY HOW MAD I AM THAT THIS THING I DEFINITELY DON’T CARE ABOUT HAPPENED AND THAT I 100% KNEW ABOUT FOR MONTHS!
>JUST WANTED TO BE IN HERE FIRST TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW HOW NOT MAD ABOUT THAT I WAS
Lmao
Okay, shill.
I'm just not interested. Sorry?
dilate lmao
>I dont remember season 1 being "lovecraftian" either.
It literally revolves around Carcosa and the yellow king bro wtf
Cool, but that's not Lovecraat, that's Ambrose Bierce.
yeah and he predates lovecraft too. common misconception
I think one of them will end up being schizophrenic and imagining these things
S1 had subtle themes. S4 is just The Terror with literal paranormal elements and actual ghosts have appeared as characters now and it's only E01.
This is The Terror the same way Underworld was The Wolfman. Different properties reference the same mythology all the time.
Underworld is mid
Must remind you guys that the whole shit is real, at least in season 1. Why? They never say "Oh yeah this is fiction by this guy Chambers". They talk about the King in Yellow as actual lore, not a fiction book. Sure there is subtly in the whole thing, was Rusty really seeing shit in the end or the drugs and the pain took his mind? We don't know. But I'd say magic/horror is real in this universe but they did the right thing by not showing a CGI monster and ruining the whole mood.
god damn the CGI in this show is PS3 cut scene tier. is it all out sourced to india?
It's odd everyone seems to be hallucinating at the same time and there isn't a guy going
>Hey, man. Something is wrong, man. This reminds me of a trip I had last week. Oh, shit. We've been drugged.
i think the clearest conclusion is like baphomet and shit. not real but sickos get real into it. rusts visions were all explained away by tiredness or drugs moronic as that is. he's the only one who ever saw that cosmic shit
Lovecraft best craft
setting/mystery is not too bad. characters, acting and especially writing are atrocious
Disgusting Black person ass
>Ya'll
Go back to discord or re ddit please
I heard they used Billie Eilish as the intro music. Not joking
I liked it.
Some anon called it last thread.
The script started as a Terror modernization with a lesbian romantic duo lead and female non-American director to get diversity points on social media. They then bought True Detective IP and paid pizzaman for his name to be attached as exec producer to lure in old show fans.
But this is not a True Detective show in any way. It only seems more "paranormal" because its reference is actually S1 The Terror, not True Detective.
I wish Hollywood wasn't so cynical, it's frustrating. I won't even be pirating the rest of the season.
The plot has literally nothing to do with the Terror though.
You realize that was based on the Franklin expedition, right? How is that at all related to this? Being set in the arctic and involving Eskimo shit is not that.
It's literally supernatural native spirits, representing earth mother GAIA expressing rage against colonial, white male, "science" as represented by the research station and the team. How is that any different from The Terror, which was the same native/nature resistance to white colonial invasion into native land?
same mysterious craziness and weird polar bears too
Yep, the visual comparison is there as well.
>How is that any different from The Terror,
Idk, maybe because it’s a murder mystery and not a bunch of British guys on a boat trying to find the northwest passage
Wrong
And that’s related to what, exactly?
The monster in the Terror wasn’t a polar bear
no you're right it was a half-man shaman polar bear chimera. definitely not just a hyper aggressive polar bear seen and portrayed as supernatural to the mutinous, lead-poisoned, illiterate, religious, and malnourished Englishmen who murdered the Eskimaux and then started getting fricked up as the expedition dragged on by their poor leader decisions. in this season of TD they just fricking lead off with the supernatural like thats what TD has always been (it fricking isnt) when I thought I was in for some serial killer detective kino with cult themes. Also, the real crime is not casting pic rel alongside Jodie foster.
also
>le strong combat veteran female cop trooper forces frick buddy to cum inside her with a smile on her face as he says no
because rape is cool and no doesnt actually mean no, right? what did the female writer mean by this???
furthermore, the postcolonial elements I referenced here
are completely hamfisted and have nothing to do with TD as originally conceived by Pizzolatto. Blatant copy-paste job from a rejected Terror update script, and you'd have to be brain dead to miss it.
Am I the only homosexual who did some literature and media courses at college? I feel like you and me are the only ones picking up on this shit. The "durrr they aren't English so it can't reference Terror durr" tards are disappointing if real.
It’s more that you’re too moronic to understand the difference between a “reference” and the entire project being a modernization of The Terror
You're just naive. This is like BR2049 all over again. The script NEVER started as a Blade Runner sequel. It was a man falls in love with his AI assistant drama ala Her (see how things can be referenced and keep their thematic connections?) and then got the BR IP for cheap, signed Harrison on, remixed Vangelis' original score, and the convoluted abortion we received is the result. Does that sound familiar to you after watching S4 e1 of "True Detective"?
I can readily believe that it didn’t start as a TD script but I highly doubt it started as a modernization of The Terror. Like at least put them on a boat homie.
Again, stop stressing on those visual details. It's the thematic elements that matter to these ESG types. White colonialism/masculinity bad, nature/native/femininity good. This is how things start in these meetings and various deals are made between agents and producers until you get nostalgia-gayging mixed reference abortions like this show and many others in Hollywood post-2000.
Sorry bruv I just don’t see it. Cheers.
I just rewatched Terror S1 yesterday. You are wrong. You have been wrong in every thread you spam with your dumb theory. That people reply to you is apalling. I'm going to go jerk off to the idea of Mr. Collins and I jacking each other off on a potent mixture of cocaine and wine now.
This. It is about climate change.
so was the terror
like i thought they were done with doing this shit? i thought they learnt their lesson with shit like bud light and watchmen
Diff anon here. I never went to college and all anyone knows from the Terror is bears, boats, cold weather. Without explaining you are implying these things. You can call me stupid names but this is how Cinemaphile sees it. No one watched that show. Thanks.
I was here when The Terror and TD s1 were showing new episodes each week. The Terror s1 was a very popular show here.
Cinemaphile wasn't always this shitty, either. Doesn't really mean anything.
You must be the college educated anon.
Ok
So it was an online community college?
Ah yes how could we forget, the boats. If there are no boats then TD4 cannot be said to have the same themes as TT. lmao
>No one watched that show.
have a nice day newbie
Cinemaphile adores The Terror season 1
fricking moron, The Terror was all about them NOT being on a boat
It was also about them not being in Alaska so b***h fricked that up too
le spooky eskimo ghosts and polar barrrrrrr
ooooo it has one eyeeeeeeee
just like the girl who was beat to death had one of her eyes all fricked upppppp
its a revenge polar barrrrr eskimo spirittttt just like The Terrorrrr
yep. finally someone gets it
loved this dude in Longmire
I recognised him from Resolution
>definitely not just a hyper aggressive polar bear seen and portrayed as supernatural to the mutinous, lead-poisoned, illiterate, religious, and malnourished Englishmen who murdered the Eskimaux and then started getting fricked up as the expedition dragged on by their poor leader decisions
Glad we agree on what was clearly shown in the show as an unambiguously supernatural threat that had been envisioned by the dead and dying crewmen far before they got lead poisoned
Oh so it's also like LOST as well?
>the time period and nationality of characters are different therefore it can't be a reference!
dumb.
Beyond referencing native lengends there really isn’t anything there, I’m sorry anon. They don’t even take place in the same setting, the Franklin expedition was nowhere near Alaska.
>it has to be literally the same place and plot to be comparable.
dumb.
It’s not the time period and nationality, dumbass. The plots have literally nothing to do with each other. Not even the same genre.
>implying s4 is neonoir
>not seeing the exact same subtext and very similar imagery
>not understanding what ESG is or knowing what postcolonial themes and climate change resistance narratives are
You are brain dead.
Wrong, it was about a sexually frustrated ginger who managed to survive and was gifted with unsullied virgin native pussy and a clean slate within a based off-grid tribe due to him being the only one who didn't give in and have gay sex.
It's about how God's wrath will kill all gays sooner or later.
>It's literally supernatural native spirits, representing earth mother GAIA expressing rage against colonial, white male, "science" as represented by the research station and the team.
The team consist mostly of non-white people...
holy shit this is the most brain dead “theory” I have ever seen lmao
>it’s in space bro it’s LITERALLY Star Wars
show is garbage for entirely different reasons
You're the one who isn't able to read subtext, tard.
See:
Why do people keep comparing this to The Terror? They have nothing in common other than a cold environment.
You forgot a polar bear and boats.
And the plushie?
it's one very lonely anon who keeps saying it to derail actual critique of this shit show
Yeah, the rest of you morons engaging with him is purely a coincidence.
HACKS, i tell ya
nooooo stop noticing things!!!
Stop seeing that they have the same OVERT supernatural elements and postcolonial themes!! I NEED THIS I LOVE JODIEEE
keep posting this it really pisses off the homosexuals
I’m trans by the way, not sure if that matters
sorry that happened to you
I will. (because I demand Cinemaphile know the truth)
use these pics too :
You and I are gunna ruin all the shitthreads made for this shitshow the entire season bro.
me on the right
Alright. Let's get a list of shows going it is similar to other than The Terror. I'll start:
LOST (polar bear)
The Golden Compass
Fortitude
>Perched on the edge of the Arctic Circle, Fortitude is one of the safest towns on earth. There has never been a violent crime here. Until now.
Also has Christopher Eccleston so it's definitely a shared cinematic universe.
>comparing this slop to the kino that was the Terror
Who cares, it's all bait to shove in le stronk diverse female cop duo. Miss me with that shit.
I really like it
So fricking brave and powerful
shit I wear those same glasses
hard to believe she was once attractive 40 years ago
i just saw some morons on twitter pretending she's still hot lmao
>This isn't a real line in the show
>This is a real line in the show
me too.
das rite
Is it as bad as it looks
Decent production value but everything is missing.
Jodie is decent at least.
I'd watch for Jodie if the snakebite piercing lady wasn't so obviously going to ruin the show
it's really weird, i understand a prime directive to push propaganda, but don't they even care a tiny little bit to pick actual actors.
main actors suck, but all injuns here are *terrible*, and it's not because there are no good actors, mel gibson made a fricking apocalypto and all actors are fricking brilliant.
Real nice how the ugly b***h raped that dude. Imagine if the first season had Woody holding a girl down while she struggled, jizzing into her against her will while he smiled.
and covering her mouth and face with his hand. good point.
Yep, all part of the post-colonial themes laden in the imagery as well as the literal plot. This show is ESG propaganda, True Detective in name only.
goyslop
jesus christ, women have no idea what story is
Wow, anti-whiteness, feminism AND environmentalism? Where can I watch this!?…
I don't know what that journalist was smoking when she wrote that, there is no anti-white sentiment at all, at least in the first episode. There is some feminism but not one that is currently in vogue, it's more about egalitarianism, basically old school type feminism. What is wrong with environmentalism? We all depend on the environment to provide us with nourishment and raw material for technology for example.
>there is no anti-white sentiment at all
It's positively dripping with it.
That guy was white?
white in muttmerica
>muttmerica
Not white
>Phoebe Cates
also not white
but would frick until I died of a heart attack
That guy looks white hispanic.
So he's only white when he commits crimes
Keep moving the goalpost.
>there is no anti-white sentiment at all
>"AYO IF'N DIS GIRL WAS WHITE DEY WOULDA DONE CAUGHT HER KILLA!"
Why do you lie?
And what did Jodie Foster's character said in response to that?
Then it's revealed the reason she couldn't solve the case is because WHITEY DONE TOOK HER OFF DA CASE!
Who are you even talking about in this post, spic-kun? Which whitey?
Who knows, I guess we have to wait it out. But from the way it was framed on the episode, it seems that taking cheeky-piercings off the case was a sound decision by Jodie Foster's character.
>there's no anti-white sentiment at all
>the only single instance of anti-white sentiment is challenged
>all the multiple instances of anti-white sentiment are ambiguous and debatable
Interesting progression...
Which whitey, spic-san? Why can't you name the character unless you didn't watch the episode?
> What is wrong with environmentalism?
Because they’re always hypocritical about it, like maybe They should tackle Taylor swift and hbo executives flying around on their private jets instead of “small mining town”
True. Not to mention the bankers that basically own the world and are in charge of most of the worldwide criminal syndicates, which do illegal mining that absolutely wrecks the environment probably permanently. Not to mention they are the reason behind all the conflicts around african countries, so they can keep mining and destoying that continent.
Tell us more about those "anti-white" instances. I seem to have missed them all!
>transparent israeli pilpul
Noted.
Ad hominem. Which "anti-white" instances? Describe one.
Lmao, true.
Imagine if it was a male.
>if you put me as a israelite that’s a uh..,
>yeah, ‘ad hominem’
Pissrael won’t survive this century
LMAO, I am not a Zio-Nazi, what makes you say that?
>Zio-Nazi
Poor choice of oxy-moronic words
It is as if the Nazis weren't some neo-pagan racist death cult.
see
Cheeky-piercings is basically a loose cannon like Velcoro. If she was a male you wouldn't be complaining about this. And that other detective also shares many of Velcoro's characteristics.
I don't think anyone complained about her being a loose cannon
I am complaining about the theme's of the show not the character's themselves.
but if wanna get into the characters
black chick walks onto a murder scene without permission like in real life you can't do these things it's fricking comical
>velcoro's motives are to find the guy that raped his wife
this chick just thinks white man bad and white people bad
>black chick walks onto a murder scene without permission like in real life you can't do these things it's fricking comical
You're acting as if the fricking FBI was handling the case. What an ESL perspective.
see
>You're acting as if the fricking FBI was handling the case.
now you are being disingenuous and arguing in bad faith and guess what if a whole bunch of foreign nationals die yeah it usually becomes a federal case....
how about that for reality. The chief would literally go hey this is way to big for us and since these guys are all foreigners the fbi should handle it because they have the resources to deal with it. We should just preserve the crime scene until they get here as to not contaminate it.
>if a whole bunch of foreign nationals die yeah it usually becomes a federal case....
wtf are you talking about? confirmed for having never set foot in the United States.
Even fricking Killers of the Flower Moon makes it clear that nobody gives a shit about natives.
it is you that has never been in a western country my friend.
Central Americans will literally be cooked to death by the dozens in the back of trailer trucks and it barely makes a blip in the news cycle. You are really smoking crack if you think the typical response to dead foreigners in America is call the FBI.
lol illegal aliens sitting outside of lowe's waiting for their next gardening gig =/= foreign nationals that have visa's are working on a massive science project right?
Well first of all they weren't confirmed dead until the final shot of the episode, so it makes sense that local authorities would he conducting the search. Secondly, if you think your plight as a "white collar" green card status wagie is going to confer immediate attention from the FBI you are definitely posting from Europe or Australia.
>Secondly, if you think your plight as a "white collar" green card status wagie is going to confer immediate attention from the FBI you are definitely posting from Europe or Australia.
Explain to me how local police are going to investigate a case where they possibly need to contact foreign governments for info?
Why the frick would you need to contact a foreign national's government to investigate their murder? If I stab some German tourist to death in the middle of time Square, what can the German government contribute to that investigation?
>Why the frick would you need to contact a foreign national's government to investigate their murder?
Why indeed when it was made clear to the audience, and Jodie noticed it too, that one of the researchers was doing a video call to his family at the time of the researchers disappearing from the station? Some local state police has the authority to contact foreign relatives for questioning?
>Some local state police has the authority to contact foreign relatives for questioning?
Yes, why wouldn't they? I as a private citizen could contact their relatives as a reporter and ask them any question I want. Even if for whatever reason the overseas witness refuses contact, the next step would be getting a warrant for a copy of the communication from the service provider, which is something local courts can order.
>You are really smoking crack if you think the typical response to dead foreigners in America is call the FBI.
There is a difference between illegal immigrants and fricking PhD researchers that are in the country with proper visas, you fricking dumbass.
>with proper visas
>he honestly, genuinely believes US agencies give a shit about that
You are so fricking dumb it hurts to read your posts.
Of course they would immediately escalate it to the FBI in a real world scenario, because literally hundreds of millions of dollars are tied up in research grants in places like that, dipshit. Having foreign university researchers die in your research station is bad PR.
>Of course they would immediately escalate it to the FBI in a real world scenario
No they wouldn't. We'd hear about missing native women and murdered native men every week if that was the case. You're so fricking brainwashed by American TV shows and films about the FBI that you genuinely think they're the good guys.
i know you're just intentionally being disingenuous because you lost the argument but remember
They absolutely would, you fricking moron.
>You're so fricking brainwashed by American TV shows and films about the FBI that you genuinely think they're the good guys.
Where did I say the FBI are the good guys, moron-kun? I literally said that the reason they would escalate it to the FBI is because of money.
Well give it time, but considering that the single unifying theme of True Detecrive is that institutional authority doesn't actually give a shit about the crimes being investigated on the show, I think you're pretty moronic for anticipating FBI involvement.
Yeah I don't think the cops in Season 1 were boobs that couldn't even handle turning off a TV while setting up right next to it. Shit belongs on the Disney channel yo.
The guys they worked with were for sure.
>the single unifying theme of True Detecrive is that institutional authority doesn't actually give a shit about the crimes being investigated on the show
Institutional authorities do care about money.
Calling it now, in the next few episodes someone in the show will b***h about how nobody cared about native women being murdered, but that the moment that white men are killed the FBI storms in guns blazing.
Lol OK let's see. Majority of the dead scientists weren't white men btw. You clearly have a chip on your shoulder.
I don't give a shit about the ethnicities of the murdered men, but it is quite clearly one of the themes they are going to talk about in the show.
Well they escalated it enough that there were choppers searching for the lost researchers. That's beyond just the local town police already.
A town in Alaska that only exists because there is a mine there will definitely have police choppers. Lots of places in Alaska aren't even connected to any major intrastate highways.
Yes, some very rural departments have small aircraft or helicopters when otherwise a department of their size wouldn't. But either they have really dropped the ball in portraying how large the department actually is, or it appears to be less than 10 people.
>Well they escalated it enough that there were choppers searching for the lost researchers. That's beyond just the local town police already.
Yes and in reality they wouldn't have handled the injun homicide either. I know a nearby city with a little under a hundred officers that does have their own airship and bearcat, and yet when there is a homicide it's handed off to county sheriffs homicide detectives.
A local chick getting murdered isn't a big deal. If the entire staff of a research station vanishes and all that is found is a tongue, and none of their families have heard from them, then it should probably be escalated to at least a larger neighboring agency that doesn't have their chief of police personally investigating cases.
it's like this bro the victims families will want answers and go to their own governments over the incident
something like this would make global news
the foreign nation's the victim's are from will put pressure on the u.s.a. to figure out what the frick happened
they wouldn't just allow some police chief to handle it, the fbi would be asked to take over and investigate
>velcoro's motives are to find the guy that raped his wife
>this chick just thinks white man bad and white people bad
My point is that both of them have a hair-trigger temper and usually express their aggression in a physical way.
The issue for me is the music, not only the intro but spread throughout the episode, somehow I feel that settings in arctic should have some majestic haunting scores like as in terror and northern water
the use of music in this ep was the worst I've seen
this is the last i'm watching anything written or directed by a woman ever again
what a waste of time
Just wait until there is an action sequence.
i get to watch grandma and the native cop do MMA in the woods??? based!!!!
As soon as I heard the theme song I knew it was over.
The production values were Severance tier. Just ok but not great. S1 and S2 really spoiled us in that regard. It's far more than the music.
Yeah the music has been awful.
Repurposing that song during the sex scene so it's like she's singing about cumming was incredibly crass.
what song was it
No clue
This isn't good but it's not offensively bad enough for me to not watch it yet. Outside of Foster, the performances are pretty shit especially the kid cop and the eskimo cop
Are we back Cinemaphile?
no
Great idea to make a show that doesn’t have one likable character. Can’t wait to spend more time with all of these incredible characters.
Yea that bothered me too. Like, I will ignore the SJW pandering and the forced attempts at tying TD franchise elements like the Ligotti story name for the research station, with the clear Terror season 1 reference, but underneath it all, as some anons have said: the production values are meh, music is meh, writing is meh, and the characters are old, ugly and boring. What am I left with here? I don't care about the murders at all because there was no context, no world building in the town, the entire show is just hiding how shallow it is with lots of complex but mundane details. Way too many characters and none of them are interesting.
obviously you didn't pay attention on how preparing sandwich for kids makes you a better detective because you know how mayo looks after 48h, also because you know how clothes smell in the washing machine, because you actually wash clothes.
also you didn't appreciate the subtlety of main character relation with her native (adopted?) daughter that makes porn movies.
you would understand these things if you were a woman and NOT A FRICKING WHITE MAN
>that makes porn movies
Child porn movies btw, the girl was 15. But it's ok because queer poc, right sisters?
>Reddit spacing
To be fair neither Rust nor Marty were likeable.
I guess Marty’s wife was ok until she fricked rust.
Rust gays are so tiring. He was an interesting character that was decently fleshed out for sure and made S1 as fun as it was. But god damn S1 had a lot of filler in it for normalgays. It had nowhere near the world building or subtext that S2 had, which filtered a lot of people.
based kinoseurs
LIES! LIAR! Rust and Marty started out as a very watchable dynamic duo. They were individually miserable but worked together to create a fun enivornment for the plot to develop.
Marty was the most likable character on tv in ages. This show really separated the plebs and the patricians. Rustgays lmao
Not really. A key point of S1 is the fact that Rust and Marty are individually misarable violent pricks (for different reasons), but their chemistry when working together ties the whole thing neatly. If the show was about just one or the other, they'd be awful, but together they become likeable.
>Rust and Marty
>chemistry
>Autist commenting on social dynamics
>autismo can't even tell they had, at best, a slight respect for one another
God, you really need to pretend these characters are friends, don't you?
>Typing out a paragraph
Chamistry has nothing to do with friendship ya moron
Duly noted, Pajeet. Respect the sirs!
They have a ton of it. Marty keeps Rust grounded, while Rust is a mirror of what Marty might become if he keeps fricking up his family life.
I can't believe Anons are being triggered by a moron comparing this to the Terror.
It's clear they really wanted to call this White Country.
why don't they just fricking kill us already and get it over with
what more do they want
They want us to start it so that they can point and say “see normies? The following repression will be totally justified!” Jan 6 was supposed to be the starting point but it ended up fizzling out (they still try to talk it up though)
I just want it to be a serious and adult crime drama without this immature nonsense like S2. S1, S3 and this are unwatchable pseud nonsense. Pizzaman was at his best in S2.
Hard agree. Sadly S2 filtered about 70% of Cinemaphile too.
S2 had some strong points and the whole "everything is fricked" theme was really well done. Not bittersweet ending, no light at the end of tunnel, only darkness and compromise. Problem is, the weak parts are really bad. The whole "Casper this, Casper that", all Vince Vaughn parts are really boring, some scenes have convoluted dialogue/bad pacing. Still a great season, totally filtered Cinemaphile.
Frank was one of the best parts of the show
I agree that Frank was important, and Vaughn gave a great performance (also Kelly Reilly was hot af). But the way they shot and edited their scenes, I don't know. It's just broke the whole pace of most episodes for me. I felt that they wasted what should have been the best part of the show.
I think if you enjoyed the plot to character development content ratio of S1 you definitely could have doubled the episodes of S2. But I personally loved the fast pacing, it made it feel energetic and real; worth rewatching to see parts you missed rather than having to sit through forced scenes that were added to keep the narrative interesting; like S1's ghetto cash grab action scene (well done, but shoe horned in and completely worthless to the plot or themes of the show). S2 feels very lean to me in comparison but on rewatching there is a lot of subtext and subtle messaging there.
also had the best soundtrack
Yea, and I really liked S1 too, so that is saying something.
I really loved Vaughn, personally. Even the gay guy and the woman were interesting characters. It felt like there was representation in the character development and they all were tied together for the central plot and themes well instead of just tossed in for pandering. I find S2 incredibly rewatchable, S1 not so much. I still do find S1 to be better than 99% of TV ever made though. I guess it's why S3 and now S4 were so disappointing for me. I didn't care S2 bombed at all, but S3 needed to have been better. They took the worst parts of S1 with the relational filler that had no implications on the plot and was just there for sex scenes to appeal to bored house wives and brought that back, thinking it was why S2 failed. This is why we cannot have nice things.
Hwat? They might not have been likable as people if you had to spend time with them in reality, but they were likable as characters. They were incredibly interesting and entertaining.
no i don't want everything to be turned into silly Sci-fi fantasy capeshit with monsters and aliens. not everything needs to be a comic book.
>ruined the opening with billie eilish zoomoid dogshit
>issa lopez too preoccupied with muh strong women, id politics, and brown fragility to produce anything but pure slop
>cringe dialogue, literally unwatchable even if you can somehow look past all of the formerly mentioned garbage
imagine taking the one series you have left that still has potential value and running it into the ground in an attempt to capture an audience that doesnt even exist lmao
>imagine taking the one series you have left that still has potential value and running it into the ground in an attempt to capture an audience that doesnt even exist lmao
They shoulda given Saulner a second chance after he quit in season 3. Let him write/direct a whole season.
>Didn't ya'll want TD to go back to the Lovecraft/occult shit?
I'm going to quote you when the finale looks moronic because it's not supernatural
>I'm going to quote you when the finale looks moronic because it's not supernatural
It'll be
>mining company was doing illegal stuff to the environment
>murdered girl found out and threatened to expose
>whatever mining company is doing infected the water and people are hallucinating
For me it's Monsieur Spade.
>more brownoid focused goyslop
no thanks
Screencap this
Its just going to be mercury poisoning and the mine killed people to cover it up.
Wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it would be. We will see how the show progresses though.
kys for supporting this
>giving them bonus cash for replies
You three are really good at this shill battle.
It's good to point it out. They lose money when you do. If they don't make successful posts they are fired eventually. Frick shills.
That's not how you do it. You do it by pointing out the ways their show is shit. Like, how every character is putting on fake hostility and after the other person they're talking with calls them on it, the characters proceed to talk to each other like they are only speaking at gunpoint.
Not shilling, I'm expecting it to turn into a man hating woke mess but the first ep wasn't that bad. You guys see frickin shills in your sleep.
>random picture slightly related to television and film
>vague praises with no specific point
Every fricking time. HBO shills are lazy and paid less than minimum wage. They use pictures of any origin because they believe it will attract attention to their post and validate it because of bunk pschological bullshit. It's pathetic. Ignore these posters. This show is beyond terrible.
>bunk
Heh
Embarrassing shill
thighs
>s1
Some the best HBO breasts of all time
>s4
this black dyke will sell our show
Oh the humanity
the west has fallen but unironically
Great, i have to jerk off now. Thanks homosexual.
"empowering" sex scenes really fricking suck.
Why she raping wendigoon??
So why are they using a Billie Eilish song as the theme? The theme songs to the other seasons had relevance to both series themes and location, what does this song have to do with either?
>expecting that kind of attention to detail from this slop
it was chosen to attract an audience
there is no deeper meaning to it
>10 years later and Cinemaphile still doesn’t know who the Yellow King is
>10 years later
>we're on Season Four
frick this lazy ass show
>hey Jodie, I think the scientists are just out having a walk
>now, about this severed human tongue we're standing over
>oh jeez Jodie, you want me to elbow my gf and steal some documents from my dad?
>yea Morty, don't worry he's not gonna check first thing after you leave his apartment
>oh jeez Jodie, my dad is gonna kill me, i'm so inept I can't turn off a TV and I'll just sit next to it while working
Also how did she know the sandwich had mayo on it before flipping it open?
You've never made a sandwich in your life. Jodie knows. She makes hella sandwiches.
No seasoning
I watched until the opening credits. Was like watching the cold open to walking dead or some shit. Dropped before I even saw a woman on screen.
i fell asleep watching it what happened
Downloading this right now. Gonna watch it and be contrarian about it on Cinemaphile.
So I assume that every thread this season is just going to be hatewatchers complaining about identity politics cause it lives rent free in their heads?
Explain the exact reason you chose that image you fricking evil shill.
I only have like 3 webms saved on this computer and chose a random one
That's because you're a shill. You should have more webms.
this
>tourist shills outing themselves this easily
grim
he's probably brown too lmao
Damn friends, I was shitposting on my laptop in bed but its a shame you guys are so mind broken. Here's a webm I saved from eurovision 2015 that I went to my computer just to post for you guys, enjoy!
That webm just summed up the theme of season 4
>rent free
more like kicks the door in and squats
stupid smelly Black person
don't insert politics if you don't want people discussing them, pretty simple really
welp that was shit doubt i'll watch the rest of the series reminds me of when hbo bought the rights to watchmen and made a """watchmen""" series
hebrew box office cant help themselves
anyone could see letting a subhuman like issa lopez, who is preoccupied with identity politics, get their hands on something like this would be a disaster
like all i got from it was
white man bad,
also white people in general bad and don't care about other races
white people don't care about other races superstitions or religions
white people are in charge and oppress all the other races
also le mining is bad for the environment
and bad cgi
some dude hitting some woman at work over a domestic thing, later on he's seen talking with a buddy about doing more violent acts against women and the black cop chick vandalises his truck because he hekkin deserved it
ex-chief who is an old white man is a dufus, who's getting a mail order bride who keeps police evidence at his premises and gate keeps people from being allowed access to it so he's probably in on the murder
the black female detective said the girl that was killed would have had the whole state searching for her if she was white
the new white female chief constantly belittles her counterpart's especially about their religious belief's
new white chief before the story began demoted the black officer because she was poking around the wrong people aka the person who owns the mine or some shit and it's also eluded that she got taken off the case over a petty lovers spat between her and the black female officer
girl that was killed was protesting against the mine
also black woman officer literally rapes some dude but that's fine
imho it's how a person who has never worked in a professional position from some leftist country filled with leftist ideology that has rampant corruption and violence assumes that people would behave like that in a first world country in a professional environment
also couldn't they afford decent cgi
>imho it's how a person who has never worked in a professional position from some leftist country filled with leftist ideology that has rampant corruption and violence assumes that people would behave like that in a first world country in a professional environment
https://www.npr.org/2019/07/22/744084063/a-small-part-of-a-serious-problem-criminals-hired-as-police-officers-in-alaska
>Just in the small western village of Stebbins, Hopkins reported with a team last week, every police officer pleaded guilty to domestic violence charges within the last 10 years. The seven officers had served time in jails, prisons or halfway houses, according to the newspaper. Only one officer had ever received any kind of formal law enforcement training.
>The reporting focused mainly on village and tribal police officers. Hopkins told NPR that the problem stems not just from a lack of funding and a shortage of people who want to work as officers, but from a broken regulatory and background check process.
>tribal police
lol
>no argument, just a homosexual "quip"
lol
It's not a quip, your citation refers to communities that aren't policed by real government law enforcement agencies that have actual guidelines and regulations. Tribal lands have no federal oversight and can do whatever the frick they want. They're shitholes and that's why they have such a problem with missing women which hollywood likes to blame on white men for some reason.
>by real government law
We both know you don't give a shit about government law, so why the frick do you have to nitpick this issue you clearly don't want to accept as solved? Guess what: Alaska isn't like your Hispanic country. Nobody gives a shit about piercings like you hispanics do.
>so why the frick do you have to nitpick this issue you clearly don't want to accept as solved?
Because the show is about real law enforcement agencies that have some semblance of standards and you're citing tribal police which are completely different as a valid comparison and justification for something in the show.
>real law enforcement agencies
I thought tribal police was a fake police, spic-kun. Can you make up your mind?
The black cop found the crime scene, speedwatcher. She didn't "walk into" anything.
>I thought tribal police was a fake police
They are. The two law enforcement agencies we've seen so far in the show are real agencies. Someone complained about how someone from a real police department is portrayed, and then you justified it by posting people from the aforementioned fake tribal police.
>The two law enforcement agencies we've seen so far in the show are real agencies
Says who, spic-kun? They have less jurisdictional rights than the tribal police.
Who cares? That's what people thought about season one, and even though it dropped those elements everyone sucks its wiener.
its all supernatural hogwash
>The black cop found the crime scene, speedwatcher. She didn't "walk into" anything.
ok you didn't watch the show because if you did you'd know that
the delivery driver called it after everyone was missing and only finding a tounge
then the chief and the other male officers came their and called in a missing person's operation
if you'd watched the show you'd know black chick and jodie foster work at the same fricking station and she was aware of the whereabouts of the crime scene through just talking with jodie foster's charater lol in her office
>he can't tell the difference between the crime scene with the tongue and the crime scene with the actual native woman
Dumb fricking speedwatcher.
>ok you are now le troll
after losing the argument
>homosexual comeback
You know it helps to actually watch the shows you're decrying, right?
>if you'd watched the show you'd know black chick and jodie foster work at the same fricking station
They don't anymore.
homosexual speedwatcher can't even keep track of simple details such as "Jodie Foster wasn't even in town when the native woman's murder happened".
He was talking about pierced cheeks going into the research station.
Jodie also broke in at the end of the episode, speedwatcher. You'd know this if you actually watched the whole episode.
Jodie is the Chief of Police and it's her jurisdiction. She can't break into her own crime scene. Black chick is a statie or something now which is why Jodie told her that it wasn't her jurisdiction.
>She can't break into her own crime scene
She most definitely can, you stupid Hispanic frick. Just the fact that she walked into the crime scene without letting anyone else now jeopardizes the investigation. How fricking dumb are you?
Who was she supposed to let know? The lab techs that it doesn't look like they have on staff? The investigators which they also don't have because she's doing it herself as the chief?
>Who was she supposed to let know?
Her superiors and anyone else investigating the case, such as the father/son pair.
It helps when you watch the show, you know?
>Her superiors
She's the chief of police.
>chief of police
I can't think of a lowlier position than that, ESL-kun.
It's standard procedure to just discount the finger prints of any and all law enforcement on crime scene evidence in America. If you've got a badge you're good to go. Are you suggesting this keystone cop mining town in Alaska has some kind of strict chain of evidence rules? Lmao
you do no she didn't find the crime scene of the girl she was told where it was by local's right?
>ESL word salad
>sematics
i just put it in pigeon english so you understand
You mean SEMANTICS, you stupid fricking ape?
GOTTEM
>if you'd watched the show you'd know black chick and jodie foster work at the same fricking station
No they don't, moron.
>The black cop found the crime scene, speedwatcher
lol
https://apnews.com/article/b08e9fac28bd4c0ea9cd00d85b29f3d4
>Report: At least 14 Alaska cities have officers with records
>ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) — At least 14 cities in Alaska have employed police officers whose criminal records should have prevented them from being hired under state law, the Anchorage Daily News and ProPublica reported Saturday.
The news organizations said they found more than 34 officers who should have been ineligible for these jobs. In all but three cases, the police hires were never reported by the city governments to the state’s Department of Public Safety, as required, the Daily News and ProPublica reported.
In eight additional communities, local tribal governments have hired tribal police officers convicted of domestic violence or sex crimes, the news organizations reported.
>All 42 of these tribal and city police officers have rap sheets that would prevent them from being hired by the Anchorage Police Department and its urban peers, as Alaska state troopers or even as private security guards most anywhere else in the United States, the news organizations said. Many remain on the job.
>The reporting focused mainly on village and tribal police officers
>tribal
hmmmmm....
You do realise tribal police are the ones who police tribal reserve's not like normal towns right?
wait let me get this straight, you guys are comparing this to the Terror cause it has a polar bear in it?
It isn't similar because there isn't a boat.
Uuuh pretty sure i saw a fishing boat in there somewhere
the boat was no longer a boat once it was on the ice shelf. the men venture out of it and die just like the men of the research station.
because it has a revenge spirit polar bear
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good premise, completely ruined by all the diversity hires that are anticharismatic and can't act for shit
cool
now do one with male characters
Just saw it. It was ok, i was expecting the diversity bullshit to be worse so the spoopy theme kinda kept me interested.
Might even be a kino season if someone goes through all the episodes and cuts out the woke scenes.
Even you did, what's left underneath is forgettable and banal. Worse than s3.
3 was more grounded, but to a fault. The whole plot was a nothing burger by the end.
Absolute waste of Michael Rooker.
>le season 3 is bad because le black victims
Frick off.
le what
>ya'll
I mean when I first saw the intro I was kinda worried since I did not expect some pop song to be in it, also worrying was the lack of the double exposure effect.
Then when the episode finally hit, about 25 minutes in on the episode I was relieved. Yea it's obviously nowhere as good as S01 but it's still quite acceptable material, I kinda wish they were more subtle about the paranormal aspects as it was on S01 but oh well, at least it is Lovecraftian enough, I like most of the characters, the leads are not woke stereotypes and there was no pandering or wokeism-like themes, the two other white detectives are not buffons or macho types. I think it will be slightly better than S02 and S03, but there is no way to know for sure, time will tell.
what a letdown, my thoughts on it:
positives
jodi foster - best actor by far on the show
good setting - seems underutilised at this stage though
intriguing mystery - and by that i mean the relation between the activist's parka and the one shared by the lab guy, the missing persons are a close second, the crazy lady and the dancing guru dead guy, who cares?
negatives
listless episode, not gripping enough, meandering in many sections
shitty fricking acting by all the support cast, the second lead is painfully bad to watch and not just because of her pierced cheeks, she does not seem to be "into" scenes that require talking; the only other half-decent acting is by the kidcop, dadcop is unable to sell himself of as a deadbeat scumbag and just comes of as undercooked and uninterested
bad music, pedestrian dialogues, not enough atmosphere or drama created for the horror mystery that it was supposed to be
>and by that i mean the relation between the activist's parka and the one shared by the lab guy
That's not a positive, it's fricking moronic
>parka and the one shared by the lab guy
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that is the only mystery developed so far, compare how much time was devoted to the missing scientists against talking about the old unsolved case of a dead activist, this show is clearly about solving that unsolved case, the missing persons are a side focus, which is why the connection of the parka is the only thing to look forward to next week, the missing guys are a mcguffin
>the second lead is painfully bad to watch
yeah. this is her second acting role. not sure what the frick they were thinking given the cast in all prior seasons
>this is her second acting role
wow, someone saw her first acting credit and decided she was a right fit for this role? the only role i can think suitable for her as of now is to try and scare the evil presence by herself based on her perpetual pissed and annoyed tone and look delivered in a hammy and clunky manner
Was it just me or did Jodie Foster's adopted daughter admit to filming child porn? WTF?
What makes you say she's adopted?
Because Jodie married her dad who presumably died drunk driving or getting hit by a drunk driver after they were married.
It's 2024, what are you, a bigot?
Teens recording themselves fricking is nothing new. And she didn't admit to it, she got caught lol
The tone worked when it was extremely gritty, grounded, and hinted at possible supernatural elements but always left it ambiguous. Having literal ghosts and shit in the opening episode swings things too far the other direction.
Who could have possibly predicted that this would be an absolute disaster?
>rural Alaska
>exclusively interracial couples
Why do they still do this?
Because it's what actually happens in those communities, you fricking moron.
did we really need yet another feminazi power fantasy from hbo?
any memes already?
kys
apparently its a rip off of terror season 1?
we should've known how this would go after Watchmen.
alright lets release a new true detective but make it lame and gay (with women and Black folk as lead)
>Black person lead
No, I wont be watching this slop. Simple as.
just started watching and it seems kinda hackey and goofy so far
are the deep-dives and unpacking videos up yet?
How is it a crime scene when there's nothing stopping anyone from going in? Not like there's any police tape around stuff, I don't think they even locked the place after they left the first time. None of them act like police, nothing is believable.
Not to single you out but I feel like a lot of people are genuinely failing to register that the cops in this town are supposed to be back water rednecks with zero professionalism.
It's very inconsistent. They're portrayed as if the department has 3 people, yet they've got a helicopter canvasing for the researchers.
The way it's presented it doesn't make me think that the characters are incompetent, but the writers.
is it just me or is every dialogue/character interaction weirdly offputting? and they're just carpet bombing in visions/dreams/hocus pocus. doesn't feel like any of the prior seasons so far.
i just watched it. Jodie Foster plays a fun character. The black girl playing a native is kind of weird. Couldn't you find a native American to play it? or is she one of those 1/16th native Americans we euros always see on tv. I like how the white dude unashamedly tells everyone about his Russian mailbride.
Girl boss kicks ass of much larger male is a no go. 15 year old girl makes a porn with her 16 year old gf, sure we get a bit or nice pc drama. Overall there's too many ugly people in this show. The wailing fat whale was annoying. The ugly freak sister is hideous to look at. The chick with the piercings? is this what the young folk look like nowadays?
anyhow I guess TD has always been about the miserable people of society. I guess making em look like misfits was just the next step.