Disney and Ewan McGregor condemn ‘horrendous’ racism sent to Obi-Wan Kenobi star Moses Ingram

>Obi-Wan Kenobi actor Moses Ingram has revealed she has received “hundreds” of racist messages since appearing in the new Star Wars show, with her co-star Ewan McGregor issuing a strong statement condemning abusive fans, saying “if you’re sending her bullying messages, you’re no Star Wars fan”.

>In the new Disney+ series, Ingram plays the Third Sister, Reva Sevander, who is tasked by Darth Vader to hunt McGregor’s Kenobi. On Tuesday on Instagram she shared just a few examples of the racist abuse directed at her on social media since the show began.

Thoughts?`

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2022/jun/01/disney-and-ewan-mcgregor-condemn-horrendous-racism-sent-to-obi-wan-kenobi-star-moses-ingram

  1. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Multiculturalism is failing everyone, segregation was always the correct answer

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sending morons back to their country was the answer.

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        They'll be back as soon as they can get on a plane seat.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Agreed, you should go back to 4chan

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        >go back to the Cinemaphile community

        bro you trippin here.

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        this is Cinemaphile. its all the same politics

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          Newfag

  2. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    /pol/cels account for 0.0001% of the fanbase yet their so loud you'd think they make up majority of the fanbase. No one cares that Reva is black. Her character is fine, she's an alright actress.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >t.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      her being a moron isn't even in the top 10 problems with this show

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        this

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous
      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        how bad is it? i've not started yet after how shit boba fett was

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          it's much better than Boba Fett but still not great. However i don't agree with most of the criticism, i think the parts with baby Leia and Obiwan are the best and the rest is just dull Xena the Warrior tier action/costumes/acting, like Boba Fett or the Mandalorian

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            >it's much better than Boba Fett but still not great.
            Not a single Obi Wan episode is as good as the Train Heist episode (or the Mandalorian one).

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            >it's much better than Boba Fett
            I really don't think it is. People just care more because it's obi wan. I dropped Boba fett after the first episode. What problem did Boba fett have that this show doesn't?
            >looks like shit
            >bad fight choreography
            >awful diversity actors drag the whole thing down
            >boring plot
            Hell, both even have parkour cringe

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          Do you want a show where a spunky 9 year old Leia speaks to people as if she's an opinionated college freshman?

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >t.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bitch can't act. Digney chuds are muh racists excuse to deflect actual criticism of the show.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. It's transparently an outrage marketing stunt.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >No one cares that Reva is black
      True
      >she's an alright actress.
      Debatable.
      >Her character is fine
      No her character is pretty bad and creates lots of issues with already existing lore.
      Im not surprised disney is trying to hide the fact that people are upset about the terrible way the handled her character and story by talking about how an extreme minority of people are being racist. Thats what all these shows do now. Dislike show = racist

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >He thinks it's white people sending her racist messages

      Same with footballers, the ones who send them racist messages are always arabs, in the few screenshots with account names we've seen, it's always "mohamad6612", "abdullamahmoud132923" and "husseinachraf21332"

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Star Wars doesn't come across as a franchise where everyone needs to be white, but nor does it come across as a franchise where there has to be an even distribution in all ranks of the social order every race from our planet Earth.
      Make an Africa-looking planet where black people live in mud huts. Why is she an Emperial captain?

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >4chancels account for 0.0001% of the fanbase yet
      Disney still kvetching

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's tiresome how they keep pushing out garbage that they fucked up then they blame everyone else. Worse, di$ney lives in such a bubble they think it works too.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Movie makers making fun of you and calling you racist for noy falling for their tricks and y're out here shilling for them. You libtards arent human. That's why you get treated as cattle.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >No one cares that Reva is black.
      correct
      > her character is fine
      Fuck no, it's pure cringe, same with Leia, it's embarrassing to watch given how decent the first two seasons of Mandolorian was
      They've fucking butchered it for self congratulation points

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >their
      retard

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Notice the terminology here. I had this conversation with an anon in a Jedi fallen order thread, notice how every nu wars cuck always says the same shit. Characters are “fine”, shows are “alright”, meh it’s “fine”, everything’s “fine”. Nothings ever good or bad or amazing or well made or anything like that. Absolutely no passion from nu wars consumers, everything’s just “fine” or “alright”

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nice try D*sney

  3. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    the weird thing is 99% of those messages were sent by people only pretending to be White guys

  4. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    why did they have to make up fake hate messages? were all the times I called her a moron on /misc/ not enough for real tv?

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Kek this

  5. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    it was me I sent the horrendous racisms

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      based

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      apologize

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      ....that's just not possible

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      very cute and sex anon

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Godspeed based anon

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Well met Sir. Carry on.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        HELP I CAN'T STEAL

  6. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Haven't watched the show or followed any of this. Was this one of the times where she was shit and blamed it on racists or one of the times where it was actually racists?

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Actual racists otherwise they would be talking about critiques towards the character and performance and not people directly messaging the actress to call her a monkey

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        >actual racists

        12 year old boys in China typing out "harambe" on their phones don't count moron

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nobody called her a monkey.

        Also, bold of you to assume any of those messages were actually real and not fabricated.

  7. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Would "The Beach" have been better with Ewan >McGregor in the Leonardo DiCaprio role? We'll never know, but it was the hiring of DiCpario that led to Boyle and McGregor not speaking to each other for years.

    What a frail little man

  8. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    woman always lie about stuff like this for money and fame
    Just like Amber Turd

  9. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why don't people like her character? I haven't seen this shit show because lmao Disney Star Wars.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      She's written badly and acted badly.

  10. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    I guess the plot leaks are true then, the show is a train wreck and they've jumped right to "the fans are racist" in an attempt to pre-emptively damage control.

  11. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is there any proof she’s getting these swathes of horrible messages? Or do they just keep saying it

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      The actress showed them off on her instagram

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The actress showed them off on her instagram
        okay and? Welcome to internet

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        >You that Empire moron?
        Wait sounds familiar...

  12. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >moses
    >she
    fuck this gay earth

  13. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is embarrassing. Obi Wan Kenobi is getting BTFO by Stranger Things and LucasFilm has taken to controversy to sell the show.
    Obi Wan was supposed to be the saving grace for Star Wars.. A return to form.
    Notice this is the first live action Star Wars show on Disney+ without Filoni and Favreau.. Kathleen Kennedy once again fucking things up.

  14. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    lessons not learned

    ?t=748

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Every single person on Twitter should be forced to watch this video at gun point so they'll point their anger in the correct direction.

  15. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    new shit has come to light
    she racismed herself
    hasn't that ever occurred to you, man?

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      kek

  16. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    His entire career is now property of Disney, he hopes he stays so until the day the he dies. He will say anything he is told.

  17. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    I gave up after Ep2. How was Episode 3?

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Every beat is fueled by laughable convenience and coincidence.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      awful. genuinely youtube fan project tier

  18. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    so where is this "racism" in question? have they pointed to anything in particular? seems they just started crying about "racism" apropos of nothing and we're all just supposed to believe it uncritically

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because you haven't clicked any of the articles with proof? Because you haven't even read any posts in this thread?

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        nope. not my problem

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      they bypassed the burden of proof

  19. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    disney sent them all bar two
    have they posted proof of said messages?otherwise X

  20. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Does someone have that red bathrobe pic of her? I can't find it anymore.

  21. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >That scene where Vader is chasing Kenobi around the fucking mine with that obnoxious as fuck shaky cam that was so unbelievably overt that it physically made me angry

  22. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    ill never not be pissed every time I see a stormtrooper die from a single shot from a tiny dinky blaster. Stormtrooper armor is supposed to be pretty good at stopping small and even medium blaster fire.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      why not just use real bullets anyway

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        >why not just use real bullets anyway
        Blaster gas is more compact

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. I want them collapsing buildings and tunnels on the stormtroopers. I want them getting rammed with speeders and trucks just to hold them down long enough to dump two blaster mags into a joint. I want more IED's and snare traps. I want them barricading buildings and burning it down inside them. I want ad-hoc crop dusters dousing them in bootleg napalm and gliders dropping wreckage covered in pipe bombs. I want a stormtrooper with his legs and an arm blown off to play possum then flop into a guy's knees to knock him down then disembowel the rebel scum with the broken end of his humerus. I want more blaster and ordnance malfunctions. The lower quality gas and aged munitions kneecapping their performance. The desperate failing total war struggle against the apex organism.

      >Make her an ayylien
      >Remove that hairdo
      >Wooow I fixed the controversy!

      Yeah it's funny how Lucas got away with it cause he wasn't retarded. Hell, even star trek had common sense.

  23. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    AHH MY NAME IS OBI WAN AND IM AFRAID TO TOUCH MY LIGHT SABER AHH!!!!!

  24. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Make her an ayylien
    >Remove that hairdo
    >Wooow I fixed the controversy!

  25. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    they painted the asian guy yellow and gave him a chinky hat and they have the balls to call me a racist

  26. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's just a marketing thing. Literally every single person who puts themselves out in a public space gets bullied and criticised. Youtubers used to always do that "I'm taking a break because people are mean :(" bullshit.
    Hell even on this site, people call you gay, moron, retard, etc etc and yet you don't see people coming out saying "someone (you)'d me and called me a gay, this is my story :~~*".

  27. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine getting so upset about Star Wars that you send the people who worked on it angry messages.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Imagine getting so upset about Star Wars
      FTFY

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      why dont these guys make videos anymore

  28. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bots send racist messages, nobody else cares enough, media writes a story about it and everyone thinks it’s real

    • 12 months ago
      Richard Heart

      exactly this.

  29. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Her acting sucks ass

  30. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    There are seven billion people on this place. Not everyone will like you. The MAJORITY won't like you. What Disney is doing here is using random people typing 'kys' to her, and making it part of their marketing. It's as transparent as can be. WHERE is the concerted effort against this woman? I can pinpoint discussion against Ghostbusters 2016. I can pinpoint discussion against The Last Jedi, and other things like that. But where's the major Youtuber talking down against this woman cause she's black? Where's the major hub or trolls? Half the discussion is Disney responding to this alleged racism.

  31. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Think about all the insults that have been told to you on Cinemaphile, or even off, on supposedly more 'respectable' sites. Would they be generating news headlines?

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Too high iq of a take here

  32. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >our show isn't good, director is talentless the and actors are miscast
    >quick blame racism

  33. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah it’s racism’s fault that the dumb bitch can’t act.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >It’s more rewarding to be a racist
      >And then cry about how everyone calls you a racist

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        >you don't like being called this label that comes with undesirable socio-economic consequences? how ironic heheh

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          Have you tried not being a racist?

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            it's not enough to not be racist, you have to repent your whiteness and be anti-racist

  34. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's one thing to raciss shitpost here. DMing her and calling her a nig is something else.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Internet has no borders and muslims are retards. Public figures will always get some flak and when you sign to Disney's carnival of fuckups the bad scripts and direction is going to put you right in front of that if you don't have the acting chops to carry it any way.

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        Is she muslim?

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          No, a lot of the flak she got is probably from them.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      There are seven billion people on Earth. You are going to get people who are rude to you. If you're an actor, or a star, you will receive some of the most vile words possible. Is it right? No. But what Disney is doing here is using a tiny, tiny fraction of shitposters, and springboarding it to help their marketing. They had it all planned.

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        You're probably not wrong. But when Ewan knows that Jar Jar almost killed himself over a similar situation, I'm sure that is what caused him to speak up this time.

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          nah, then they'd use the words "abuse" or "harassment". the framing is clearly "this is a racism issue", i.e., jarjar's situation is not the same.

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          Jar Jar was a good character though.

  35. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    My thoughts are that you can take your millionth shill thread about this manufactured outrage marketing campaign and shove it up your ass, moron. Still not watching Disney Wars, still not paying for Disney+ and you're still not a woman.

  36. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    This gorilla is going to get dropped harder than Tico and her potato sack.

  37. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >if you’re sending her bullying messages, you’re no Star Wars fan
    lel imagine how much your identity would have to be based around a fandom to give a shit about this
    it's cringe enough when somebody uses the old "you're unamerican if x" but at least people do feel some pride for their nation

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's cause if they could make a compelling argument they'd have to admit it's a problem stemming from disney in the first place.

  38. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >“Obi-Wan is going to bring the most diversity I think we’ve ever seen in the galaxy before,” Ingram shared. “To me, it’s long overdue. If you’ve got talking droids and aliens, but no people of color, it doesn’t make any sense. It’s 2022, you know. So we’re just at the beginning of that change. But I think to start that change is better than never having started it.”
    https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/obi-wan-kenobi-actor-says-lucasfilm-warned-about-racist-backlash-star-wars-fans.html/

    That's simply not true though. The mind boggles. It's always been a diverse cast.

    I cant find any racist messages she was sent can someone post?

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >It’s 2022
      it literally takes place a long time ago in a galaxy far far way. did this cunt not even see the movies

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        They should make all actors do a Star Wars quiz as well as audition.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >If you’ve got talking droids and aliens, but no people of color, it doesn’t make any sense.
      this is such a disingenuous argument because they make historical dramas in middle age europe and still do the same shit

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's funny cause there were. Twileks and a lot of shit were just nobody cared back then and don't care now cause it doesn't advance pushing racist casting decisions.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      The only Star Wars movie with an all-white cast (aside from James Earl Jones’ voice) was the original from 1977 since most of the extras were English. This makes me feel like she’s never even seen the six real Star Wars movies.

  39. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you're well known enough then you're gonna get sent hate on the internet.
    That's just how it works.

  40. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >there's nothing anybody can do to stop this hate
    BASED

  41. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Moses is a man's name.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Moses was actually a Han Chinese woman. We have the ancient holocubes in the Jedi archives.

  42. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    her character is grating. the fact that she's a black woman is besides the point.

    she could be asian or latina or whatever.

    it's how Reva is written

  43. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >bullying a woman

    the most cowardly thing you can do

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      How does raping rate then?

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      No that would be trying to attract hatred to a woman and hiding behind them. Eg moron dick posts.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why? We all believe in equality here.

  44. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >'hundreds'

    Rookie numbers.

  45. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    I include black people or black topics on all my essays so I can report my teacher for racism if she doesn't give me A+ or higher.

  46. 12 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      into the trash he goes

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        This. Never trust a garden gnome.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't Shat a murderer?

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      i would've thought after the debacle with actors and actresses singing "imagine" and the free-falling ratings of their self-aggrandizing awards shows, etc that they would have realized by now that nobody gives a fuck about their takes on hot topics
      shut up and act

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Did Shartner give his twitter account over to some zoomer in a PR firm?

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        The oldest zoomers are 24.
        Our white-collar jobs are entry level at best.
        So find someone else to blame.
        It isn't us.

  47. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do you part Disney xisters. I'm buying Disney+ subs for all trans women of color shetlers in my area as well as pre ordering every the whole lineup of figures from the Black Series. Together we can finally defeat racism and capitalism and stop the opression of Disney. Stay strong.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is what catering to the minority looks like. NO ONE owes it to fucking gays to cater to them. Who gives a shit if they throw a temper tantrum? And I refuse to support companies that do this shit.

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        >And I refuse to support companies that do this shit.
        are you a tibetan monk?

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >lockmart and BAE in the pride parade
      you lost 4chantards, we have you outgunned and outnumbered

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        Everybody has lost, since a long time ago.
        Unless you're a trillionaire. Otherwise you're just enjoying a little pat in the back while you slave for smarter people than you or maybe depressed and anxious and eventually offing yourself while the ultra rich spend their lifes enjoying the fiction they built and that doesn't really apply to them.

  48. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    SHOW ME THESE MESSAGES, and show me that they're not bot accounts. When considering that Disney came out swinging before the show even came out and before people even knew the shot was a bait-and-switch where Obi-Wan isn't the star, it's suHispanicious as fuck.

    Also I am sick of this "I AM BLACK! YOU HAVE TO INCLUDE ME IN EVERYTHING AND HAVE TO MAKE ME THE CENTER OF EVERYTHING IN YOUR LIFE" bullshit. This is why they fail as a people as they're always takers in other people's civilizations while completely proud of the fact that they refuse to ever get their shit together to come up with their own.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Still waiting to see these messages. Otherwise I call bullshit.

  49. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    she's not the problem..
    its the horrible writing..
    that vader vs obiwan scene was fucking horrendous

  50. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Have you tried not being a racist?

  51. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Obi-Wan tongues my anus

  52. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I sense such powerful male energy from these posts, it’s actually intimidating.

  53. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    They can't market their new series or whatever by actually showing footage. So they have to resort to this. If your hate racism watch our show. And if you heard that its bad, the people who said it are racist. Watch it to make them seethe.

  54. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't the Asoka actor also black or does she just look like monke?

  55. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Thoughts?`
    don't care, won't read, won't watch

  56. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >makes series called "obi-wan"
    >focus mostly on some sheboon original character nobody cares about
    >cries about fan racism

  57. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Disney and journos always pull the race card or sexism card to shut down any criticism of Disney's shitty films and shows. They called people sexist for saying Captain Marvel is shit (it was shit)

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      What was bad about captain marvel?

  58. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >still not a single picture as proof of said messages

  59. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just think her character is annoying as shit, yes I know that's the point, and could be written better. I can already tell from the newest episode she's gonna flip to the light side.
    No issue with the actor tho

  60. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    if youre sending this bitch DMs thats cringe af
    harass the fucking writers and director ffs

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