Disney and Ewan McGregor condemn ‘horrendous’ racism sent to Obi-Wan Kenobi star Moses Ingram

>Obi-Wan Kenobi actor Moses Ingram has revealed she has received “hundreds” of racist messages since appearing in the new Star Wars show, with her co-star Ewan McGregor issuing a strong statement condemning abusive fans, saying “if you’re sending her bullying messages, you’re no Star Wars fan”.

>In the new Disney+ series, Ingram plays the Third Sister, Reva Sevander, who is tasked by Darth Vader to hunt McGregor’s Kenobi. On Tuesday on Instagram she shared just a few examples of the racist abuse directed at her on social media since the show began.

Thoughts?`

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2022/jun/01/disney-and-ewan-mcgregor-condemn-horrendous-racism-sent-to-obi-wan-kenobi-star-moses-ingram

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Multiculturalism is failing everyone, segregation was always the correct answer

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Sending Black folk back to their country was the answer.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        They'll be back as soon as they can get on a plane seat.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Agreed, you should go leave

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >go back to the Cinemaphile community

        homie you trippin here.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        this is Cinemaphile. its all the same politics

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          newbie

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    /pol/cels account for 0.0001% of the fanbase yet their so loud you'd think they make up majority of the fanbase. No one cares that Reva is black. Her character is fine, she's an alright actress.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >t.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      her being a Black person isn't even in the top 10 problems with this show

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        this

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous
      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        how bad is it? i've not started yet after how shit boba fett was

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          it's much better than Boba Fett but still not great. However i don't agree with most of the criticism, i think the parts with baby Leia and Obiwan are the best and the rest is just dull Xena the Warrior tier action/costumes/acting, like Boba Fett or the Mandalorian

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >it's much better than Boba Fett but still not great.
            Not a single Obi Wan episode is as good as the Train Heist episode (or the Mandalorian one).

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >it's much better than Boba Fett
            I really don't think it is. People just care more because it's obi wan. I dropped Boba fett after the first episode. What problem did Boba fett have that this show doesn't?
            >looks like shit
            >bad fight choreography
            >awful diversity actors drag the whole thing down
            >boring plot
            Hell, both even have parkour cringe

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Do you want a show where a spunky 9 year old Leia speaks to people as if she's an opinionated college freshman?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >t.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      b***h can't act. Digney chuds are muh racists excuse to deflect actual criticism of the show.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This. It's transparently an outrage marketing stunt.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >No one cares that Reva is black
      True
      >she's an alright actress.
      Debatable.
      >Her character is fine
      No her character is pretty bad and creates lots of issues with already existing lore.
      Im not surprised disney is trying to hide the fact that people are upset about the terrible way the handled her character and story by talking about how an extreme minority of people are being racist. Thats what all these shows do now. Dislike show = racist

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >He thinks it's white people sending her racist messages

      Same with footballers, the ones who send them racist messages are always arabs, in the few screenshots with account names we've seen, it's always "mohamad6612", "abdullamahmoud132923" and "husseinachraf21332"

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Star Wars doesn't come across as a franchise where everyone needs to be white, but nor does it come across as a franchise where there has to be an even distribution in all ranks of the social order every race from our planet Earth.
      Make an Africa-looking planet where black people live in mud huts. Why is she an Emperial captain?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >/pol/cels account for 0.0001% of the fanbase yet
      Disney still kvetching

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's tiresome how they keep pushing out garbage that they fricked up then they blame everyone else. Worse, di$ney lives in such a bubble they think it works too.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Movie makers making fun of you and calling you racist for noy falling for their tricks and y're out here shilling for them. You libtards arent human. That's why you get treated as cattle.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >No one cares that Reva is black.
      correct
      > her character is fine
      Frick no, it's pure cringe, same with Leia, it's embarrassing to watch given how decent the first two seasons of Mandolorian was
      They've fricking butchered it for self congratulation points

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >their
      moron

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Notice the terminology here. I had this conversation with an anon in a Jedi fallen order thread, notice how every nu wars cuck always says the same shit. Characters are “fine”, shows are “alright”, meh it’s “fine”, everything’s “fine”. Nothings ever good or bad or amazing or well made or anything like that. Absolutely no passion from nu wars consumers, everything’s just “fine” or “alright”

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Nice try D*sney

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    the weird thing is 99% of those messages were sent by people only pretending to be White guys

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    why did they have to make up fake hate messages? were all the times I called her a Black person on Cinemaphile not enough for real tv?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Kek this

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    it was me I sent the horrendous racisms

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      based

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      apologize

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      ....that's just not possible

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      very cute and sex anon

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Godspeed based anon

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Well met Sir. Carry on.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        HELP I CAN'T STEAL

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Haven't watched the show or followed any of this. Was this one of the times where she was shit and blamed it on racists or one of the times where it was actually racists?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Actual racists otherwise they would be talking about critiques towards the character and performance and not people directly messaging the actress to call her a monkey

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >actual racists

        12 year old boys in China typing out "harambe" on their phones don't count Black person

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Nobody called her a monkey.

        Also, bold of you to assume any of those messages were actually real and not fabricated.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Would "The Beach" have been better with Ewan >McGregor in the Leonardo DiCaprio role? We'll never know, but it was the hiring of DiCpario that led to Boyle and McGregor not speaking to each other for years.

    What a frail little man

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    woman always lie about stuff like this for money and fame
    Just like Amber Turd

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why don't people like her character? I haven't seen this shit show because lmao Disney Star Wars.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      She's written badly and acted badly.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I guess the plot leaks are true then, the show is a train wreck and they've jumped right to "the fans are racist" in an attempt to pre-emptively damage control.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Is there any proof she’s getting these swathes of horrible messages? Or do they just keep saying it

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The actress showed them off on her instagram

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >The actress showed them off on her instagram
        okay and? Welcome to internet

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >You that Empire Black person?
        Wait sounds familiar...

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >moses
    >she
    frick this gay earth

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    This is embarrassing. Obi Wan Kenobi is getting BTFO by Stranger Things and LucasFilm has taken to controversy to sell the show.
    Obi Wan was supposed to be the saving grace for Star Wars.. A return to form.
    Notice this is the first live action Star Wars show on Disney+ without Filoni and Favreau.. Kathleen Kennedy once again fricking things up.

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    lessons not learned

    ?t=748

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Every single person on Twitter should be forced to watch this video at gun point so they'll point their anger in the correct direction.

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    new shit has come to light
    she racismed herself
    hasn't that ever occurred to you, man?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      kek

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    His entire career is now property of Disney, he hopes he stays so until the day the he dies. He will say anything he is told.

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I gave up after Ep2. How was Episode 3?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Every beat is fueled by laughable convenience and coincidence.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      awful. genuinely youtube fan project tier

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    so where is this "racism" in question? have they pointed to anything in particular? seems they just started crying about "racism" apropos of nothing and we're all just supposed to believe it uncritically

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Because you haven't clicked any of the articles with proof? Because you haven't even read any posts in this thread?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        nope. not my problem

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      they bypassed the burden of proof

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    disney sent them all bar two
    have they posted proof of said messages?otherwise X

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Does someone have that red bathrobe pic of her? I can't find it anymore.

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >That scene where Vader is chasing Kenobi around the fricking mine with that obnoxious as frick shaky cam that was so unbelievably overt that it physically made me angry

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    ill never not be pissed every time I see a stormtrooper die from a single shot from a tiny dinky blaster. Stormtrooper armor is supposed to be pretty good at stopping small and even medium blaster fire.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      why not just use real bullets anyway

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >why not just use real bullets anyway
        Blaster gas is more compact

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This. I want them collapsing buildings and tunnels on the stormtroopers. I want them getting rammed with speeders and trucks just to hold them down long enough to dump two blaster mags into a joint. I want more IED's and snare traps. I want them barricading buildings and burning it down inside them. I want ad-hoc crop dusters dousing them in bootleg napalm and gliders dropping wreckage covered in pipe bombs. I want a stormtrooper with his legs and an arm blown off to play possum then flop into a guy's knees to knock him down then disembowel the rebel scum with the broken end of his humerus. I want more blaster and ordnance malfunctions. The lower quality gas and aged munitions kneecapping their performance. The desperate failing total war struggle against the apex organism.

      >Make her an ayylien
      >Remove that hairdo
      >Wooow I fixed the controversy!

      Yeah it's funny how Lucas got away with it cause he wasn't moronic. Hell, even star trek had common sense.

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    AHH MY NAME IS OBI WAN AND IM AFRAID TO TOUCH MY LIGHT SABER AHH!!!!!

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Make her an ayylien
    >Remove that hairdo
    >Wooow I fixed the controversy!

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    they painted the asian guy yellow and gave him a chinky hat and they have the balls to call me a racist

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's just a marketing thing. Literally every single person who puts themselves out in a public space gets bullied and criticised. Youtubers used to always do that "I'm taking a break because people are mean :(" bullshit.
    Hell even on this site, people call you homosexual, Black person, moron, etc etc and yet you don't see people coming out saying "someone (you)'d me and called me a homosexual, this is my story :~~*".

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine getting so upset about Star Wars that you send the people who worked on it angry messages.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Imagine getting so upset about Star Wars
      FTFY

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      why dont these guys make videos anymore

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Bots send racist messages, nobody else cares enough, media writes a story about it and everyone thinks it’s real

    • 2 years ago
      Richard Heart

      exactly this.

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Her acting sucks ass

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    There are seven billion people on this place. Not everyone will like you. The MAJORITY won't like you. What Disney is doing here is using random people typing 'kys' to her, and making it part of their marketing. It's as transparent as can be. WHERE is the concerted effort against this woman? I can pinpoint discussion against Ghostbusters 2016. I can pinpoint discussion against The Last Jedi, and other things like that. But where's the major Youtuber talking down against this woman cause she's black? Where's the major hub or trolls? Half the discussion is Disney responding to this alleged racism.

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Think about all the insults that have been told to you on Cinemaphile, or even off, on supposedly more 'respectable' sites. Would they be generating news headlines?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Too high iq of a take here

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >our show isn't good, director is talentless the and actors are miscast
    >quick blame racism

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah it’s racism’s fault that the dumb b***h can’t act.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >It’s more rewarding to be a racist
      >And then cry about how everyone calls you a racist

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >you don't like being called this label that comes with undesirable socio-economic consequences? how ironic heheh

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Have you tried not being a racist?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            it's not enough to not be racist, you have to repent your whiteness and be anti-racist

  34. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's one thing to raciss shitpost here. DMing her and calling her a nig is something else.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Internet has no borders and muslims are morons. Public figures will always get some flak and when you sign to Disney's carnival of frickups the bad scripts and direction is going to put you right in front of that if you don't have the acting chops to carry it any way.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Is she muslim?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          No, a lot of the flak she got is probably from them.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      There are seven billion people on Earth. You are going to get people who are rude to you. If you're an actor, or a star, you will receive some of the most vile words possible. Is it right? No. But what Disney is doing here is using a tiny, tiny fraction of shitposters, and springboarding it to help their marketing. They had it all planned.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        You're probably not wrong. But when Ewan knows that Jar Jar almost killed himself over a similar situation, I'm sure that is what caused him to speak up this time.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          nah, then they'd use the words "abuse" or "harassment". the framing is clearly "this is a racism issue", i.e., jarjar's situation is not the same.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Jar Jar was a good character though.

  35. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    My thoughts are that you can take your millionth shill thread about this manufactured outrage marketing campaign and shove it up your ass, Black person. Still not watching Disney Wars, still not paying for Disney+ and you're still not a woman.

  36. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    This gorilla is going to get dropped harder than Tico and her potato sack.

  37. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >if you’re sending her bullying messages, you’re no Star Wars fan
    lel imagine how much your identity would have to be based around a fandom to give a shit about this
    it's cringe enough when somebody uses the old "you're unamerican if x" but at least people do feel some pride for their nation

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It's cause if they could make a compelling argument they'd have to admit it's a problem stemming from disney in the first place.

  38. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >“Obi-Wan is going to bring the most diversity I think we’ve ever seen in the galaxy before,” Ingram shared. “To me, it’s long overdue. If you’ve got talking droids and aliens, but no people of color, it doesn’t make any sense. It’s 2022, you know. So we’re just at the beginning of that change. But I think to start that change is better than never having started it.”
    https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/obi-wan-kenobi-actor-says-lucasfilm-warned-about-racist-backlash-star-wars-fans.html/

    That's simply not true though. The mind boggles. It's always been a diverse cast.

    I cant find any racist messages she was sent can someone post?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >It’s 2022
      it literally takes place a long time ago in a galaxy far far way. did this c**t not even see the movies

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        They should make all actors do a Star Wars quiz as well as audition.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >If you’ve got talking droids and aliens, but no people of color, it doesn’t make any sense.
      this is such a disingenuous argument because they make historical dramas in middle age europe and still do the same shit

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It's funny cause there were. Twileks and a lot of shit were just nobody cared back then and don't care now cause it doesn't advance pushing racist casting decisions.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The only Star Wars movie with an all-white cast (aside from James Earl Jones’ voice) was the original from 1977 since most of the extras were English. This makes me feel like she’s never even seen the six real Star Wars movies.

  39. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    If you're well known enough then you're gonna get sent hate on the internet.
    That's just how it works.

  40. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >there's nothing anybody can do to stop this hate
    BASED

  41. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Moses is a man's name.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Moses was actually a Han Chinese woman. We have the ancient holocubes in the Jedi archives.

  42. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    her character is grating. the fact that she's a black woman is besides the point.

    she could be asian or latina or whatever.

    it's how Reva is written

  43. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >bullying a woman

    the most cowardly thing you can do

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      How does raping rate then?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      No that would be trying to attract hatred to a woman and hiding behind them. Eg Black person dick posts.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Why? We all believe in equality here.

  44. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >'hundreds'

    Rookie numbers.

  45. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I include black people or black topics on all my essays so I can report my teacher for racism if she doesn't give me A+ or higher.

  46. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      into the trash he goes

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        This. Never trust a israelite.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't Shat a murderer?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      i would've thought after the debacle with actors and actresses singing "imagine" and the free-falling ratings of their self-aggrandizing awards shows, etc that they would have realized by now that nobody gives a frick about their takes on hot topics
      shut up and act

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Did Shartner give his twitter account over to some zoomer in a PR firm?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The oldest zoomers are 24.
        Our white-collar jobs are entry level at best.
        So find someone else to blame.
        It isn't us.

  47. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Do you part Disney xisters. I'm buying Disney+ subs for all trans women of color shetlers in my area as well as pre ordering every the whole lineup of figures from the Black Series. Together we can finally defeat racism and capitalism and stop the opression of Disney. Stay strong.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This is what catering to the minority looks like. NO ONE owes it to fricking homosexuals to cater to them. Who gives a shit if they throw a temper tantrum? And I refuse to support companies that do this shit.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >And I refuse to support companies that do this shit.
        are you a tibetan monk?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >lockmart and BAE in the pride parade
      you lost /misc/tards, we have you outgunned and outnumbered

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Everybody has lost, since a long time ago.
        Unless you're a trillionaire. Otherwise you're just enjoying a little pat in the back while you slave for smarter people than you or maybe depressed and anxious and eventually offing yourself while the ultra rich spend their lifes enjoying the fiction they built and that doesn't really apply to them.

  48. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    SHOW ME THESE MESSAGES, and show me that they're not bot accounts. When considering that Disney came out swinging before the show even came out and before people even knew the shot was a bait-and-switch where Obi-Wan isn't the star, it's suspicious as frick.

    Also I am sick of this "I AM BLACK! YOU HAVE TO INCLUDE ME IN EVERYTHING AND HAVE TO MAKE ME THE CENTER OF EVERYTHING IN YOUR LIFE" bullshit. This is why they fail as a people as they're always takers in other people's civilizations while completely proud of the fact that they refuse to ever get their shit together to come up with their own.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Still waiting to see these messages. Otherwise I call bullshit.

  49. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    she's not the problem..
    its the horrible writing..
    that vader vs obiwan scene was fricking horrendous

  50. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Have you tried not being a racist?

  51. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Obi-Wan tongues my anus

  52. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >I sense such powerful male energy from these posts, it’s actually intimidating.

  53. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    They can't market their new series or whatever by actually showing footage. So they have to resort to this. If your hate racism watch our show. And if you heard that its bad, the people who said it are racist. Watch it to make them seethe.

  54. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't the Asoka actor also black or does she just look like monke?

  55. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Thoughts?`
    don't care, won't read, won't watch

  56. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >makes series called "obi-wan"
    >focus mostly on some sheboon original character nobody cares about
    >cries about fan racism

  57. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Disney and journos always pull the race card or sexism card to shut down any criticism of Disney's shitty films and shows. They called people sexist for saying Captain Marvel is shit (it was shit)

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What was bad about captain marvel?

  58. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >still not a single picture as proof of said messages

  59. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I just think her character is annoying as shit, yes I know that's the point, and could be written better. I can already tell from the newest episode she's gonna flip to the light side.
    No issue with the actor tho

  60. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    if youre sending this b***h DMs thats cringe af
    harass the fricking writers and director ffs

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