>According to anonymous industry insider Can We Get Some Toast, Secret Wars is “setting up a soft-reboot to the entire MCU, kind of like what #TheFlash did for the #DCU. It’ll be a send-off for not only the entirety of the Fox-Verse, but the MCU that we’ve all grown to love. In the aftermath will be an All-New, All-Different MCU.”
lol the entire reason the MCU is failing is because they immediately shifted to young Avengers instead of exploring the decades worth of great material written before they even existed, and now they want to go all in on the reason they're declining?
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This is about the actors getting too old. They know the legacy characters are the only ones people want to see but they can't keep bringing back RDJ when he's pushing fricking 60.
The comics can keep the moronic sliding timeline going, the movies can't.
I think they want to put Fantastic Four and X-Men together with all the characters from phase 1 and 2 with new actors, but if they keep this woke agenda and hire only superstars Divas who refuse to stay in shape and wear certain costumes it won't work out, just follow the comics, but forget the woke disney marvel comics
helmsworth found out he might have the genetic markers for Alzheimer's and had an emotional breakdown.
the day I found out I have a 47 CAG repeat and i'm going to have Huntington's disease and die suffering like my mom, well i had to go to work, got told suck it up and stop being a whiny gay by a fat woman and a Black person.
Think about it, that story doesn't make sense. Being upset you have alzheimers makes sense. Being upset that some fortune teller says you have one thing that MAY contribute to you maybe getting Alzheimers in the far off future doesn't make sense.
But there may be some truth there. What do we know? That he looked at a genetic test and got upset at the results, later claiming the alzheimers bs story.
Reading between the lines it's likely he found out he's related to Black folk or something.
My opinion? Samuel Jackson is too old to do play action movies, Nick Fury is an 007, a John Wick and the reboot would be Feige's third chance to do what he never did, be faithful to the comics, if he had done this from the beginning of the MCU I believe it would affect Star Wars, Indiana Jones and Pixar in raising the standard, but it happened that the MCU made mediocre films and mediocrity reigned at Disney, I think it's time for the shareholders to take control
We've already had several send-offs to the Fox-verse, how many people really want yet another? Just let it die.
This X-Men always felt futuristic and way too impactful to exist in the "normal world" the Avengers live. It is better go forward with no Avengers at all.
about the indie thing, superhero movies will be used either as WW3 propaganda or as a narrative device for a aocietal issue i.e the auperhwroe himself won't be the thematic focus of the film.
I imagine new era superheroe movies adhering to their respective genres more, too. Like a 2040s Batman would take place in a literal noir setting in the 1920s (with some bat gadgets being duturistic)
It would be a dumb idea for them to drop one of their tentpole billion dollar franchises for the sake of a franchise whose movies haven't been as popular or successful. They need to reimagine the X-Men to fit into the MCU, not reimagine the MCU to fit the X-Men.
>wtf is a soft reboot
it's a reboot that doesn't erase from continuity everything that happened before. it's essentially what Star Wars did when TFA came out, with new Rebels (now the Resistance) vs the new Empire (now the First Order) and with a new Death Star (the Starkiller Base).
probably gonna have some time travel / multiple universe shenanigans though
>Flash runs so fast that he time travels >Uses it to save his mom who died when he was a kid >Because of the butterfly effect everything ends up being completely "different" in a bad way >Has to go back in time again and kill his mom to fix it >Can't completely fix the time line but things are back to normal but slightly "different"
I didn't watch the new movie but that's a basic plot that the comics/cartoon uses so I'm assuming that's what their talking about.
>wtf is a soft reboot
You've heard of the term "BOOTLICKER"? The saliva softens the leather making it possible to reshape it. And Hollywood is full of bootlickers.
lol the entire reason the MCU is failing is because they immediately shifted to young Avengers instead of exploring the decades worth of great material written before they even existed, and now they want to go all in on the reason they're declining?
This is about the actors getting too old. They know the legacy characters are the only ones people want to see but they can't keep bringing back RDJ when he's pushing fricking 60.
The comics can keep the moronic sliding timeline going, the movies can't.
>they can't keep bringing back RDJ when he's pushing fricking 60.
Says who? It's not like these are taxing roles. He stands in front of a greenscreen and throws out quips.
his vegan diet aged him really badly and fricked him up, he can't play Tony Stark at this point unless it's supposed to take place like 30 years in the future.
Audiences don't want to see these superheroes as old geezers.
That said, replacing RDJ is like re-casting Jack Sparrow, I don't think they can ever pull it off.
It's this. Replacing Iron Man with a Black person or Thor with a woman isn't really an option either with how much goodwill Disney burned on the brand. The only conceivable option is to just wipe the slate clean and bring in the properties they now own (F4, X Men). Whether they can do it without ruining shit again with DEI stuff remains to be seen. Personally I think in the next few years superhero movies are going to go the way of the western or the classic action movie: gone for a couple decades except for indies and foreign films before being brought back in a subversive way. It's happened to every major film genre before, it'll happen again.
This X-Men always felt futuristic and way too impactful to exist in the "normal world" the Avengers live. It is better go forward with no Avengers at all.
about the indie thing, superhero movies will be used either as WW3 propaganda or as a narrative device for a aocietal issue i.e the auperhwroe himself won't be the thematic focus of the film.
I imagine new era superheroe movies adhering to their respective genres more, too. Like a 2040s Batman would take place in a literal noir setting in the 1920s (with some bat gadgets being duturistic)
>This is about the actors getting too old
so recast them
no one cares about having a new James Bond, so long as they pick a good one
same with Spider-Man
the same would be true about the rest of Marvel's characters
I would be for this. Unironically. Seeing morons play Iron-Man, Captain America, Thor, and The Hulk (especially The Hulk. Fricking GOLD) would be incredible. And all the women are played by not-at-all-passing physically disabled trannies. Glorious. The woke pandering corporations sincerely bringing back Freak and Minstrel Shows. God I’m getting hard just thinking about it. >Downy Captain America: Huck. Mash. >Downy Hulk: HUUUUUUUURRRRRRRR
"They" think by starting from scratch, and then doing all the race and gender swapping first before establishing the expanding universe, the audience will complain less....and they would be wrong believing that.
There is no future of israeli wizards ruling forever over brown cattle.
They think there is, but there isn't. In all of history they have never achieved lasting power without white benefactors, white protectors, a white society. They need the one thing to exist to destroy. Absolute best case scenario they will breed a race that can't be guilted, that is too stupid and too violent to be threatened, too sociopathic and too brain damaged to even remember a deal, much less honor it. There will be no one to fuel the jets, no one to run the power plants, no one to maintain the roads. The israelites are poor fighters, poor organizers, their one and only talent is parasiting off of whites, exploiting the machinery whites build even while they run it to ruin.
The israelites will scream and cry that it's not their fault while their own brown slaves tear them open and roast them over fires kindled with vandalized works of art.
lol the entire reason the MCU is failing is because they immediately shifted to young Avengers instead of exploring the decades worth of great material written before they even existed, and now they want to go all in on the reason they're declining?
So after the failure of Phase 4 and the start of 5, they are teasing a 'soft reboot' meaning they can change their 'connected universe' however they want with zero story consequence. Granted they haven't gave a shit about continuity since Thanos passed away.
Clearly the OG Avengers cant stay forever, the ones they kept though have been ruined and their replacements are all non-white or women.. curious. They aren't written well, exist to undercut the OG team and their actions have fricked the continuity.
Rushed through a lot of material because they just need another 'big bad guy', frick origin stories and world building
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This is about the actors getting too old. They know the legacy characters are the only ones people want to see but they can't keep bringing back RDJ when he's pushing fricking 60.
The comics can keep the moronic sliding timeline going, the movies can't.
Both of these are true too
Probably the smartest move now that everyone anyone cares about is dead or retired
What will almost certainly happen is the first Avengers movie will tease this reboot, leaving it up in the air for who comes back and dies. They will make their slaves create 100 different scenarios and play it by what characters will be the most profitable to keep, then just write the finale around that. Either way they are keeping non-whites and women at the center, and white men left (except for spiderboy) will be punching bags
Shared continuity between a bunch of different writers all adhering to parent company demands was a mistake. A novelty that somehow barely manages to extend the life of an industry long after it has worn off, but a mistake. You're seeing how the burden of all these different creatives working on projects simultaneously is rapidly making the MCU collapse because they just had to keep going beyond a couple of epilogue movies. People went from having their minds blown by something like Civil War being possible to actively resenting the shared continuity for its affect on Guardians 3.
The writers firgure it out as they go along, with zero coordination with other writers. The studios mandate x amount of fight scenes, x amount of girlboss moments, x amount of social messaging. None of this is about shared continuity of themes, its about getting to the big ensemble product.
You wanna see it Black person?
You wanna see why the MCU is failing?
It's effort.
Straight up effort. No conspiracies, no wokes shit, not chudshit. From the top to bottom, exactly 0 people in the chain still give a shit about the end product. People have jobs, they do the jobs, take a paycheck, and don't give a frick about the result.
Proof? Here's what previously twink-assed-90s alternative-band Chris Hemsworth did to his body to Thor 1 -- one of the worst Marvel movies ever -- because understood that his physical form was part of the costume and tried his best regardless
lol the entire reason the MCU is failing is because they immediately shifted to young Avengers instead of exploring the decades worth of great material written before they even existed, and now they want to go all in on the reason they're declining?
And here's Shang Chi in the absolute heaviest downward lighting known to man.
You wanna see it Black person?
You wanna see why the MCU is failing?
It's effort.
Straight up effort. No conspiracies, no wokes shit, not chudshit. From the top to bottom, exactly 0 people in the chain still give a shit about the end product. People have jobs, they do the jobs, take a paycheck, and don't give a frick about the result.
Proof? Here's what previously twink-assed-90s alternative-band Chris Hemsworth did to his body to Thor 1 -- one of the worst Marvel movies ever -- because understood that his physical form was part of the costume and tried his best regardless
>using selective screenshots as proof
I hate asian men as much as the next person and everyone knows asian women are built for BWC, but this aint it, kiddo
to be fair it was always like that. the only reason ever got anything approaching quality was directors and writers were in a contest to prove to corporate that they should be promoted to a glorified upper management position.
Only DC is declining. The MCU is fine. If the marvels flops then yeah they're in trouble but they still have blade, x-men, spiderman 4 , Captain america 3, Another Avengers movie.
Captain Black person is a guaranteed bomb and so is the marvels, blade sounds like a mess but the extra time from the strikes might allow them to sort things out, and avengers 5 has the lack of tony and og cap going against it
They just need 1 good Avengers movie and the fans will start sucking their dicks again. And another decade of slop. Disney has 0 competition. Truly depressing.
Young isn't the right word but it's true, ever since Endgame they've basically thrown the Avengers in the closet in favor of new blood, the few OG Avengers still around get ensemble flicks used as vehicles to promote new female characters. >Doctor Strange 2 introduces America Chavez and gives plenty of focus to Wanda >Thor 4 promotes Valkyrie and Jane Foster (sorta) >Hulk only shows up to promote She-Hulk >Hawkeye introduces Kate Bishop
They blew their load by killing off Tony Stark and Steve Rogers and "solving" Hulk's issues. There's nothing to be done with those characters anymore so they've been meandering trying to find any actors that can prop up the franchise. Only because of their woke mandate they refuse to find a strong male actor that can bring in the crowds like RDJ could. Spider-Man is their one good thing cause the brand is so strong but their lead isn't ideal.
>"I just want my Iron Man and Captain America back!!!" *cries*
Christ. If it was up to you, there would be ZERO stakes in capeshit.
The reason the Infinity Saga will always be the beloved is because it was kino. That's why DC fails. They cannot make kino. They brought Superman back to life literally 2 mins 44 secs after they killed him.
I'm just expanding on what the other anon said about how they immediately shifted to other characters instead of using their built-up actors and the decades of material those characters come with. It was probably the right move to kill them off cause Infinity War/Endgame felt like a capstone but it also had the effect of essentially soft-killing the MCU since the franchise had its ending already. >You smell like a DC homosexual.
They've got a similar issue where they keep meandering except they didn't even get a chance to blow their load. I haven't seen a single DCU film since Suicide Squad, and I haven't seen a single MCU film since Endgame.
>space same-sex israeli wedding
I love how if you took a line out of modern marvel and put it in a /misc/ mspaint comic I could not tell the difference.
Marvel comics ended in 2016. If you ever care to read, there's your stopping point. And prior to that they wrote "hypothetical" endings for characters in different series titled "The End", which works as a goodbye. Long Live Marvel, but the door is shut.
It's been like this for a while, I recently did a re-read of the Ultimate Spider-Man series and I had forgotten how overboard they start going with the crossovers and guest appearances after 2010.
Shared continuity between a bunch of different writers all adhering to parent company demands was a mistake. A novelty that somehow barely manages to extend the life of an industry long after it has worn off, but a mistake. You're seeing how the burden of all these different creatives working on projects simultaneously is rapidly making the MCU collapse because they just had to keep going beyond a couple of epilogue movies. People went from having their minds blown by something like Civil War being possible to actively resenting the shared continuity for its affect on Guardians 3.
>actively resenting the shared continuity for its affect on Guardians 3.
Care to expound on this? How did the shared universe effect GotG3? Something to do with the snap? The whole bit about there being all these livable planets but Fury cant find a new planet for the Skrullz?
After Star Trek and Avatar, Zoe Saldana wanted to stop being stuck in long movie contracts and asked Gunn to kill her off in 2. He was for it but Feige blocked it so she could be in Infinity War/Endgame, which obviously resulted in her dying but coming back in her pre-GotG form where she has no relationship with anybody. I don't think Gunn officially commented on Adam Warlock, but he was likely something Gunn left for them to use in Infinity War/ Endgame, but since he wasn't, and Gunn wasn't going to stick around anymore since he's with DC, he likely had to shove that in and resolve it.
>it's because they went from a full cast of whites (and samuel l jackson) to a bunch of mystery meat literal whos
That's literally what I said, that's what the young Avengers are, All-New All-Different is like that but even worse, so going ANAD because young Avengers failed is them quadrupling down on the thing that's causing them to fail
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This is about the actors getting too old. They know the legacy characters are the only ones people want to see but they can't keep bringing back RDJ when he's pushing fricking 60.
The comics can keep the moronic sliding timeline going, the movies can't.
Yeah but people want to see another Tony Stark, not Ironheart or whoever
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This is about the actors getting too old. They know the legacy characters are the only ones people want to see but they can't keep bringing back RDJ when he's pushing fricking 60.
The comics can keep the moronic sliding timeline going, the movies can't.
Can we be serious here for a sec? How can anybody other than the mentally challenged or socially moronic have any time/patience to give a frick or keep up with this horseshit? Christ.
Hence the multiverse. Not that it matters. Look, early MCU movies succeeded where most comic adaptations failed for one reason alone. They kind of kept it close to the source material at a point in time on which the source material was not absolute trash.
Then they started to diverge from it and bite more than they could chew and now even the source material are trash because contemporary culture sucks. In short the goose of the golden age died. There is absolutely no point to the MCU without the original actors and adapting stories that nobody really cares about.
Good , because I don't fricking care anymore, homosexual woke disney has turned marvel/star wars into a fricking joke. I have checked out of this mainstream israelite homosexualry media. You gays can have it, I'm done.
I think she should hook up with Hulk. I imagine he hasnt gotten any pussy since Sakaar (we only know Hulk smashed there because he has a son) but even then we was dumb Hulk so it wasn't really Bruce who got the pussy. Anyway Capt Marvel is probably the only female in the universe who could handle the cucumber. And he's probably the only being stronk enough to pierce her walls.
Didn’t the director for The Marvels recently come out and said that a Captain Marvel 3 happening depends on how the movie performs and that she was told that by Feige himself?
The funny thing about this is that no one seems to give a shit; Same with Star Wars. Disney screwed things up in a very short time and if the COVID lockdowns return the mouse will die
>all new all different marvel >all new all different MCU
It’s going to be trash movies full of diversity characters that are going to be the “originals”
>DC and marvel keep rebooting their universes, each time alienating readers more and more and sinking in sales >Disney did the same in half the time
lol
LMAO
hey disneygays
the new zak snyder joint just dropped
Disney will never be able to produce kino like this again
its over https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rHLOXbFZtI
It's pretty fricking shocking they lasted this long before doing one.
Paper capeshit pretty much lives from reboot to reboot, with some convoluted in-universe reboot plots being their peak soijak moments.
Why are all of you homosexuals pretending as if any of this shit was ever good? The MCU died in the second half of Iron Man 1. You could see the fricking contrast between making an actual film and slop with that movie alone in the first and second halves.
if that is the case then they are so moronic because they could easily just keep going and introduce new heroes or have new characters take over the role of old heroes instead
Everyone in here is blaming this and that but I've yet to see anyone talk about how Kevin Feige stepped back from alot of his normal day to day once the Infinity Saga wrapped up. >Victoria Alonso
Took over Feige's day to day production job and I don't care what anyone says. She wasn't fired for "VFX" >Nate Moore
Is another major player that took over..
I support this. Who says a character has to be tied to an actor? When an actor is done with a role let someone else play them. Just make good stories about those characters that aren't all interconnected and about stuffing as many big names on scree. As possible. Kinda like James Bond.
Of course they are going to do this, but if they rush it they will end up fricking up the entire series.
They have to wait a few years to get new actors in there. Spider-Man is a bit different, as is Batman, because they wear masks for their action scenes.
what else can they do with it? everyone hates the new characters, they can't sell tickets, they have no interesting dynamics built up. It's a complete shitshow. Unfortunately, disney can only win by also firing everyone at marvel and starting over there as well. Same people who fricked up 20 films and tv shows aren't going to magically pull gold rabbits out of their asses. They need a fresh slant, different world, no more origin stories, no more wild straying from the comics unless you're doing shit like joker with smaller budgets, competent people, etc.
I don't see how this is going to work with so many terrible writers under disney's employ. Would probably be more cost effective to sell it off to sony.
>everyone hates the new characters, they can't sell tickets, they have no interesting dynamics built up.
They also gimped the frick out of the remaining characters people did like
doubtful, cause fans will rage. if marvel isn't careful and learn the lessons from disney/dceu it will crash and burn hard.
what might (and should) happen:
half and half (616 universe and the other half from the new reboot universe) take part in secret wars. when it ends, have it end with a proper send off to the 616 characters and a passing of the torch to the new 'reboot' universe. that way if things don't go well, marvel/disney can still make 616 movies/tv shows/cartoons to keep the fans happy if the new reboot mcu movies/tv shows don't perform as well.
that way original mcu universe still exists and still make money for marvel/disney.
I don't think people care about these big superhero crossover movies and extended universes anymore. if you're gonna do superheroes just give us a story about individual heroes and their character development. normie audiences are totally burned out with these big live action extended universe movies with huge casts and overarching plotlines. just give us a fun, mildly escapist movie about people. Look at DC. The Batman was a great film and audiences loved it. They are not going to love another attempt at DC Universe-building.
If it’s a soft reboot they might keep them around, reed even helped rebuild the multiverse at the end of secret wars in the comics so it kinda lines up
>mainliners like rdj are done with mcu >black panther's actor is dead >the plotlines are basically wrapped up >adding in fantastic four and x-men would be difficult with current mcu
It makes sense but really it's not going to be successful. You can reset the universe but you can't reset the audience fatigue.
Yeah, we have been through this before, but leftoids will just keep repeating their horseshit, blaming it's catastrophic flops on everybody else.
We are already at the stage where they put Miles Morales together with succesful characters, like a tumor.
What do you think Secret Wars is going to be? It's how they merged the Ultimate Universe and the Main 616 Universe. It dealt with incursions, Dr. Doom creating Battleworld which was an amalgamation of all the different universes, and then a rebirth of the multiverse.
Avengers Secret Wars is going to be the multiverse (Disney and Fox) collapsing on itself and then basically rebooting. Instead of Battleworld they'll use that area where pruned universes went in Loki.
They'll be able to cherry-pick characters they want to keep, and recast them as they see fit. They'll also be able to start over without having to explain how mutants and the Fantastic Four ended up on Earth. Collapsing the multiverse and then soft rebooting it is how Secret Wars happened in the comics, and it's how it'll happen in the MCU.
>You thought too hard about this, fren
No I didn't, it's quite obvious that's what they're doing. >In the comics there were incursions between multiverses and it ended with Secret Wars in which the multiverse collapsed on itself and soft rebooted. >In the MCU there are incursions between multiverses and it's ending with Secret Wars in which__________________.
I never said it was going to be good. It's going to be a hamfisted retcon to keep all of their stupid post-snap characters and add in recast X-Men and probably Miles Morales too.
And I won't be watching any of it. I'm happy with my noughties capekino - yes even the objectively shitty movies like Daredevil and Ghost Rider. The MCU had some decent stuff in it but it's long past its sell by date.
rebooting would only save them if they also revamped the studio and started putting in an honest effort again, instead of dumb braindead plots with crap cgi and shoehorned social politics
When's the next Marvel con? Post Secret Wars projects will be announced. Black Panther 3, Captain Marvel 3, Thunderbolts 2, etc. That's the capeshit machine. It needs to keep pumping out that "hype".
yea let’s get rid of all our popular characters played by popular actors that everyone loves such as loki, dr strange, deadpool, scarlet witch, spider man, ant man, and thor.
you’d have to be an idiot if u think disney is going to fully reset or soft reboot the MCU & erase 20 years of work.
didn't Disney already replace all the actors except for Spider-Man? >Captain America is black >Iron Man is dead >Thor is a baby girl >Black Window is dead >Hawkeye is a girl >Black Panther is a girl
are these replacements getting replaced?
>scrapping what little left that still works and hoping a now nepoparasite infested management structure will replicate the success you'd happened upon more than a decade ago
I'm really looking forward to this. Colossal money fires are always a beautiful thing to see.
90% of the Marvelgay formula is getting them to watch entire TV shows for tiny snippets of setup that may pay off two phases and three movies from now. If they trash the current universe that will destroy all viewer faith in the already low return on investment of Marvel media. It would be a blunder so bad it may end the cinematic universe fad outright.
Wouldn't it be better just to make the MCU brand go dormant now and reboot it in like 5 to 10 years later instead of praying for a miracle with Secret Wars?
>According to anonymous industry insider Can We Get Some Toast, Secret Wars is “setting up a soft-reboot to the entire MCU, kind of like what #TheFlash did for the #DCU. It’ll be a send-off for not only the entirety of the Fox-Verse, but the MCU that we’ve all grown to love. In the aftermath will be an All-New, All-Different MCU.”
I think they want to put Fantastic Four and X-Men together with all the characters from phase 1 and 2 with new actors, but if they keep this woke agenda and hire only superstars Divas who refuse to stay in shape and wear certain costumes it won't work out, just follow the comics, but forget the woke disney marvel comics
Does this reboot mean the departure of actors who were in the mcu from the beginning like mark Ruffalo, Cris Hemsworth and Sam l Jackson?
Hulk is a joke side character now, Hemsworth I thought wanted to retire and Jackson is probably like RDJ, extremely expensive.
Rumors have said shes tired of the character because everyone hates Captain Marvel
helmsworth found out he might have the genetic markers for Alzheimer's and had an emotional breakdown.
the day I found out I have a 47 CAG repeat and i'm going to have Huntington's disease and die suffering like my mom, well i had to go to work, got told suck it up and stop being a whiny gay by a fat woman and a Black person.
Based Black person and fat woman, suck it up and stop being a whiney gay
Think about it, that story doesn't make sense. Being upset you have alzheimers makes sense. Being upset that some fortune teller says you have one thing that MAY contribute to you maybe getting Alzheimers in the far off future doesn't make sense.
But there may be some truth there. What do we know? That he looked at a genetic test and got upset at the results, later claiming the alzheimers bs story.
Reading between the lines it's likely he found out he's related to Black folk or something.
>i'm going to have Huntington's disease
Holy Christ anon, I'm so sorry. My aunt had Huntington's, I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. I hope you have people around you that love you.
I dont.. im going to drink till i die. fentanyl sounds nice too.
My opinion? Samuel Jackson is too old to do play action movies, Nick Fury is an 007, a John Wick and the reboot would be Feige's third chance to do what he never did, be faithful to the comics, if he had done this from the beginning of the MCU I believe it would affect Star Wars, Indiana Jones and Pixar in raising the standard, but it happened that the MCU made mediocre films and mediocrity reigned at Disney, I think it's time for the shareholders to take control
Mark Ruffalo replaced Edward Norton.
Sam Jackson is old as shit, they’ll probably kill off Nick Fury in Kang dynasty
they cant afford those phase 1 actors anymore
Who gives a frick.
Reddit tourists, apparently.
Are they really rebooting when they just introduces new heroes like shang-chi, ms marvel, moon knight and the eternals in the last 1-2 years?
Those characters suck.
Who?
We've already had several send-offs to the Fox-verse, how many people really want yet another? Just let it die.
It would be a dumb idea for them to drop one of their tentpole billion dollar franchises for the sake of a franchise whose movies haven't been as popular or successful. They need to reimagine the X-Men to fit into the MCU, not reimagine the MCU to fit the X-Men.
wtf is a soft reboot and what did The Flash do?
Soft reboot as in they change actors but keep the best bits of what happened before.
Kind of what they did with Days of Future Past for the X-men.
>soft reboot, but we simultaneously have 3 timelines plus spin-off about Legion
Based Fiege is going to kill MCU for good.
>wtf is a soft reboot
it's a reboot that doesn't erase from continuity everything that happened before. it's essentially what Star Wars did when TFA came out, with new Rebels (now the Resistance) vs the new Empire (now the First Order) and with a new Death Star (the Starkiller Base).
probably gonna have some time travel / multiple universe shenanigans though
Nobody actually saw the flash so this will go unanswered
>a soft reboot
it's called M-SHE-U now
they don't even know how to make women attractive to female audiences
I like Gamora and Nebula looked cool in the first two movies.
Nebula looks like a man, Captain Marvel has no meat, and Valkyrie, what they did to her design was a crime.
Nebula is the worst
>Flash runs so fast that he time travels
>Uses it to save his mom who died when he was a kid
>Because of the butterfly effect everything ends up being completely "different" in a bad way
>Has to go back in time again and kill his mom to fix it
>Can't completely fix the time line but things are back to normal but slightly "different"
I didn't watch the new movie but that's a basic plot that the comics/cartoon uses so I'm assuming that's what their talking about.
Didn't he also turn back time in Zack Snyder's Justice League? Nothing bad happened then
A canonical reboot
the flash crashed and burned with no survivors
hopefully they'll pull the same off
>wtf is a soft reboot
You've heard of the term "BOOTLICKER"? The saliva softens the leather making it possible to reshape it. And Hollywood is full of bootlickers.
>All-New, All-Different MCU.
It is already all blacks and women, what else do they want?
This is about the actors getting too old. They know the legacy characters are the only ones people want to see but they can't keep bringing back RDJ when he's pushing fricking 60.
The comics can keep the moronic sliding timeline going, the movies can't.
>they can't keep bringing back RDJ when he's pushing fricking 60.
Says who? It's not like these are taxing roles. He stands in front of a greenscreen and throws out quips.
his vegan diet aged him really badly and fricked him up, he can't play Tony Stark at this point unless it's supposed to take place like 30 years in the future.
Audiences don't want to see these superheroes as old geezers.
That said, replacing RDJ is like re-casting Jack Sparrow, I don't think they can ever pull it off.
It's this. Replacing Iron Man with a Black person or Thor with a woman isn't really an option either with how much goodwill Disney burned on the brand. The only conceivable option is to just wipe the slate clean and bring in the properties they now own (F4, X Men). Whether they can do it without ruining shit again with DEI stuff remains to be seen. Personally I think in the next few years superhero movies are going to go the way of the western or the classic action movie: gone for a couple decades except for indies and foreign films before being brought back in a subversive way. It's happened to every major film genre before, it'll happen again.
This X-Men always felt futuristic and way too impactful to exist in the "normal world" the Avengers live. It is better go forward with no Avengers at all.
about the indie thing, superhero movies will be used either as WW3 propaganda or as a narrative device for a aocietal issue i.e the auperhwroe himself won't be the thematic focus of the film.
I imagine new era superheroe movies adhering to their respective genres more, too. Like a 2040s Batman would take place in a literal noir setting in the 1920s (with some bat gadgets being duturistic)
>This is about the actors getting too old
so recast them
no one cares about having a new James Bond, so long as they pick a good one
same with Spider-Man
the same would be true about the rest of Marvel's characters
Trannies and Landwhales
actual morons, cripples and trannies
all homosexual and lesbotron of course
I would be for this. Unironically. Seeing morons play Iron-Man, Captain America, Thor, and The Hulk (especially The Hulk. Fricking GOLD) would be incredible. And all the women are played by not-at-all-passing physically disabled trannies. Glorious. The woke pandering corporations sincerely bringing back Freak and Minstrel Shows. God I’m getting hard just thinking about it.
>Downy Captain America: Huck. Mash.
>Downy Hulk: HUUUUUUUURRRRRRRR
don't make me actually laugh
some Hollywood director will see this and actually do it
>what else do they want?
Credibility
"They" think by starting from scratch, and then doing all the race and gender swapping first before establishing the expanding universe, the audience will complain less....and they would be wrong believing that.
It is not merely enough to replace the White man. The israelite seeks to erase his existence entirely.
There is no future of israeli wizards ruling forever over brown cattle.
They think there is, but there isn't. In all of history they have never achieved lasting power without white benefactors, white protectors, a white society. They need the one thing to exist to destroy. Absolute best case scenario they will breed a race that can't be guilted, that is too stupid and too violent to be threatened, too sociopathic and too brain damaged to even remember a deal, much less honor it. There will be no one to fuel the jets, no one to run the power plants, no one to maintain the roads. The israelites are poor fighters, poor organizers, their one and only talent is parasiting off of whites, exploiting the machinery whites build even while they run it to ruin.
The israelites will scream and cry that it's not their fault while their own brown slaves tear them open and roast them over fires kindled with vandalized works of art.
Nobody gives a shit about femake avengers.
lol the entire reason the MCU is failing is because they immediately shifted to young Avengers instead of exploring the decades worth of great material written before they even existed, and now they want to go all in on the reason they're declining?
So after the failure of Phase 4 and the start of 5, they are teasing a 'soft reboot' meaning they can change their 'connected universe' however they want with zero story consequence. Granted they haven't gave a shit about continuity since Thanos passed away.
Clearly the OG Avengers cant stay forever, the ones they kept though have been ruined and their replacements are all non-white or women.. curious. They aren't written well, exist to undercut the OG team and their actions have fricked the continuity.
Rushed through a lot of material because they just need another 'big bad guy', frick origin stories and world building
Both of these are true too
What will almost certainly happen is the first Avengers movie will tease this reboot, leaving it up in the air for who comes back and dies. They will make their slaves create 100 different scenarios and play it by what characters will be the most profitable to keep, then just write the finale around that. Either way they are keeping non-whites and women at the center, and white men left (except for spiderboy) will be punching bags
The writers firgure it out as they go along, with zero coordination with other writers. The studios mandate x amount of fight scenes, x amount of girlboss moments, x amount of social messaging. None of this is about shared continuity of themes, its about getting to the big ensemble product.
stop watching the closet homosexual of heelvsbabyface
shut the frick up homosexual, he's not wrong. woke israelite feminist homosexualry has ruined everything. Marvel is dead
This also not bringing the FF back and also not doing West Coast Avengers
You wanna see it Black person?
You wanna see why the MCU is failing?
It's effort.
Straight up effort. No conspiracies, no wokes shit, not chudshit. From the top to bottom, exactly 0 people in the chain still give a shit about the end product. People have jobs, they do the jobs, take a paycheck, and don't give a frick about the result.
Proof? Here's what previously twink-assed-90s alternative-band Chris Hemsworth did to his body to Thor 1 -- one of the worst Marvel movies ever -- because understood that his physical form was part of the costume and tried his best regardless
And here's Shang Chi in the absolute heaviest downward lighting known to man.
His body is fine you have body dysmorphia. Simu is just a shit Shang chi with 0 charisma. He as bad as the Danny rand homosexual.
>using selective screenshots as proof
I hate asian men as much as the next person and everyone knows asian women are built for BWC, but this aint it, kiddo
to be fair it was always like that. the only reason ever got anything approaching quality was directors and writers were in a contest to prove to corporate that they should be promoted to a glorified upper management position.
Only DC is declining. The MCU is fine. If the marvels flops then yeah they're in trouble but they still have blade, x-men, spiderman 4 , Captain america 3, Another Avengers movie.
Captain Black person is a guaranteed bomb and so is the marvels, blade sounds like a mess but the extra time from the strikes might allow them to sort things out, and avengers 5 has the lack of tony and og cap going against it
They just need 1 good Avengers movie and the fans will start sucking their dicks again. And another decade of slop. Disney has 0 competition. Truly depressing.
>they immediately shifted to young Avengers
they literally didn't
Young isn't the right word but it's true, ever since Endgame they've basically thrown the Avengers in the closet in favor of new blood, the few OG Avengers still around get ensemble flicks used as vehicles to promote new female characters.
>Doctor Strange 2 introduces America Chavez and gives plenty of focus to Wanda
>Thor 4 promotes Valkyrie and Jane Foster (sorta)
>Hulk only shows up to promote She-Hulk
>Hawkeye introduces Kate Bishop
They blew their load by killing off Tony Stark and Steve Rogers and "solving" Hulk's issues. There's nothing to be done with those characters anymore so they've been meandering trying to find any actors that can prop up the franchise. Only because of their woke mandate they refuse to find a strong male actor that can bring in the crowds like RDJ could. Spider-Man is their one good thing cause the brand is so strong but their lead isn't ideal.
>Only because of their woke mandate they refuse to find a strong male actor that can bring in the crowds like RDJ could.
???
its a PoC pozzfest now
Nearly every Phase 4 and 5 project is lead by a white person
>"I just want my Iron Man and Captain America back!!!" *cries*
Christ. If it was up to you, there would be ZERO stakes in capeshit.
The reason the Infinity Saga will always be the beloved is because it was kino. That's why DC fails. They cannot make kino. They brought Superman back to life literally 2 mins 44 secs after they killed him.
You smell like a DC homosexual.
>there would be ZERO stakes in capeshit.
There are zero stakes in capeshit though
I'm just expanding on what the other anon said about how they immediately shifted to other characters instead of using their built-up actors and the decades of material those characters come with. It was probably the right move to kill them off cause Infinity War/Endgame felt like a capstone but it also had the effect of essentially soft-killing the MCU since the franchise had its ending already.
>You smell like a DC homosexual.
They've got a similar issue where they keep meandering except they didn't even get a chance to blow their load. I haven't seen a single DCU film since Suicide Squad, and I haven't seen a single MCU film since Endgame.
If only Marvel Comics were that good.
lmao massive cope. theres still single character comics and the rest of that is just bs. try harder chuds
>troony is illiterate
Many such cases!
>space same-sex israeli wedding
I love how if you took a line out of modern marvel and put it in a /misc/ mspaint comic I could not tell the difference.
Marvel comics ended in 2016. If you ever care to read, there's your stopping point. And prior to that they wrote "hypothetical" endings for characters in different series titled "The End", which works as a goodbye. Long Live Marvel, but the door is shut.
Those first two panels are the truest shit I've seen in a while.
It's been like this for a while, I recently did a re-read of the Ultimate Spider-Man series and I had forgotten how overboard they start going with the crossovers and guest appearances after 2010.
Shared continuity between a bunch of different writers all adhering to parent company demands was a mistake. A novelty that somehow barely manages to extend the life of an industry long after it has worn off, but a mistake. You're seeing how the burden of all these different creatives working on projects simultaneously is rapidly making the MCU collapse because they just had to keep going beyond a couple of epilogue movies. People went from having their minds blown by something like Civil War being possible to actively resenting the shared continuity for its affect on Guardians 3.
>actively resenting the shared continuity for its affect on Guardians 3.
Care to expound on this? How did the shared universe effect GotG3? Something to do with the snap? The whole bit about there being all these livable planets but Fury cant find a new planet for the Skrullz?
The entire Gamora plotline had to be changed.
Por que¿ what was it originally supposed to be?
After Star Trek and Avatar, Zoe Saldana wanted to stop being stuck in long movie contracts and asked Gunn to kill her off in 2. He was for it but Feige blocked it so she could be in Infinity War/Endgame, which obviously resulted in her dying but coming back in her pre-GotG form where she has no relationship with anybody. I don't think Gunn officially commented on Adam Warlock, but he was likely something Gunn left for them to use in Infinity War/ Endgame, but since he wasn't, and Gunn wasn't going to stick around anymore since he's with DC, he likely had to shove that in and resolve it.
I wana frick Zoe so bad, bros
Moot point since Carol fricks everyone (except for Doom)
why is she like this?
>tfw even a turbobawd like She Hulk tells you to cool it down
Grim.
Code-names are a bit silly when everyone has one but everyone refers to each other by their actual names.
Marvel bros?
thors line gave me an audible laugh
>it's because they went from a full cast of whites (and samuel l jackson) to a bunch of mystery meat literal whos
That's literally what I said, that's what the young Avengers are, All-New All-Different is like that but even worse, so going ANAD because young Avengers failed is them quadrupling down on the thing that's causing them to fail
Yeah but people want to see another Tony Stark, not Ironheart or whoever
Who the frick are those two on the right?
it will be full of Black folk and trannies
who will be the target audience?
>who will be the target audience?
Americans.
Americans
no wonder they want to replace everyone with AI
Probably the smartest move now that everyone anyone cares about is dead or retired
ALL MY FAVORITE PLAYMATES ON THE SCREEN AT THE SAME TIME!!!!!!
Can we be serious here for a sec? How can anybody other than the mentally challenged or socially moronic have any time/patience to give a frick or keep up with this horseshit? Christ.
You're spending your time railing on it, so which are you?
aw, i dont think he meant to hurt your feelings, lil guy.
~~*they*~~ tend to be narcissistic
>all this food tastes like shit
>and yet here you are complaining about it, hmmmmmmmm
You aren't as clever as you think you are
Capeshit movies should be banned
I don't know about you but I can't wait for EVEN MORE boring sexless women and gay blacks
capeshit is just action movies rebranded.
The weird you are looking for is "subgenre."
>is just action movies rebranded
have always been
Hence the multiverse. Not that it matters. Look, early MCU movies succeeded where most comic adaptations failed for one reason alone. They kind of kept it close to the source material at a point in time on which the source material was not absolute trash.
Then they started to diverge from it and bite more than they could chew and now even the source material are trash because contemporary culture sucks. In short the goose of the golden age died. There is absolutely no point to the MCU without the original actors and adapting stories that nobody really cares about.
It.Is.Over.
>Twitter rumor thread
Reminder that if you believe this you're a moron.
Good , because I don't fricking care anymore, homosexual woke disney has turned marvel/star wars into a fricking joke. I have checked out of this mainstream israelite homosexualry media. You gays can have it, I'm done.
atleast bring timothy olyphant as alternate universe tony stark for secret war that would be great
Brie larson stays or goes?
Hopefully she stays and is blacked
I think she should hook up with Hulk. I imagine he hasnt gotten any pussy since Sakaar (we only know Hulk smashed there because he has a son) but even then we was dumb Hulk so it wasn't really Bruce who got the pussy. Anyway Capt Marvel is probably the only female in the universe who could handle the cucumber. And he's probably the only being stronk enough to pierce her walls.
Captain Marvel's character fricks with war machine in the comics
MCU rhodey looks like an old orangutan
He looks mummified already. If you had told me he was the one with cancer instead of Black Panther, I would have believed it.
happens to every blonde in israeli media
they can have Brie
Cheadle hates her irl lmao which is even funnier
not really
Yes https://youtu.be/KZyYJPtcAfk
>a-are these celebrities having fun instead of being boring corporate squares?? OH GOD THE HUMANITY
nice try satan
I don't particularly like Brie Larson, but for people to be unable to detect the clear sarcasm here means that zoomers are a braindead generation.
Sarcasm isn't being an abrasive b***h to your costars trying to joke with you.
>loud sound effects
god i hate zoomers
you timmies wouldn't mind if it was WMBF
"Give us back our cheese goddamnit!"
No
This interview made me sad to hear her say
Why? She'd treat you like the scum of the Earth if you ever met
She is definitely going. Disney knows nobody can stand her and hates her shit acting.
A couple of youtubers who secretly jerk off to Brie don't speak on behalf of everyone
my point exactly
How did Disney mess up casting someone this unlikable?
>How did Disney mess up casting someone this unlikable?
The way all actresses make it.
They can suck a golf ball through a garden hose
That's the funny part, they didn't mess up, her character is that insufferable.
LOOOOL
They couch them like the Snow White actress to be like that somehow they think it's empoweringly feminine
It's all for clicks, she'll be cringe or based depending on what gets more views
Didn’t the director for The Marvels recently come out and said that a Captain Marvel 3 happening depends on how the movie performs and that she was told that by Feige himself?
Tom Holland, américa chavez, kamala, she Hulk, daredevil, punisher, etc. All current mcu actors need to go and bring fresh blood
The funny thing about this is that no one seems to give a shit; Same with Star Wars. Disney screwed things up in a very short time and if the COVID lockdowns return the mouse will die
>clear!
>all new all different marvel
>all new all different MCU
It’s going to be trash movies full of diversity characters that are going to be the “originals”
>DC and marvel keep rebooting their universes, each time alienating readers more and more and sinking in sales
>Disney did the same in half the time
lol
LMAO
hey disneygays
the new zak snyder joint just dropped
Disney will never be able to produce kino like this again
its over https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rHLOXbFZtI
This wouldn't have been an issue if the movies were animated. The comic book formula does not work long term in live action.
It's pretty fricking shocking they lasted this long before doing one.
Paper capeshit pretty much lives from reboot to reboot, with some convoluted in-universe reboot plots being their peak soijak moments.
Hollywood needs to die.
I hope when they reboot it Kevin Feige leaves and Zack Snyder takes over.
Why are all of you homosexuals pretending as if any of this shit was ever good? The MCU died in the second half of Iron Man 1. You could see the fricking contrast between making an actual film and slop with that movie alone in the first and second halves.
if that is the case then they are so moronic because they could easily just keep going and introduce new heroes or have new characters take over the role of old heroes instead
So they're going to replace even more characters with women and minorities and continue to make the shitty, ESG based storylines they have been doing?
Maybe this time it won't be quippy CGI garbage for manchildren but just for regular children.
>fire all legacy actors
>replace with low-talent, literal-who, 20-something mystery mutts
This is gonna be great!
>everyone is a Black person, a homosexual or a roastie now
Yeah, good luck with your soft reboot.
Everyone in here is blaming this and that but I've yet to see anyone talk about how Kevin Feige stepped back from alot of his normal day to day once the Infinity Saga wrapped up.
>Victoria Alonso
Took over Feige's day to day production job and I don't care what anyone says. She wasn't fired for "VFX"
>Nate Moore
Is another major player that took over..
I support this. Who says a character has to be tied to an actor? When an actor is done with a role let someone else play them. Just make good stories about those characters that aren't all interconnected and about stuffing as many big names on scree. As possible. Kinda like James Bond.
Of course they are going to do this, but if they rush it they will end up fricking up the entire series.
They have to wait a few years to get new actors in there. Spider-Man is a bit different, as is Batman, because they wear masks for their action scenes.
Soon as it hit the ultra woke phase the mcu fell off a cliff
capeshit is for girls
what else can they do with it? everyone hates the new characters, they can't sell tickets, they have no interesting dynamics built up. It's a complete shitshow. Unfortunately, disney can only win by also firing everyone at marvel and starting over there as well. Same people who fricked up 20 films and tv shows aren't going to magically pull gold rabbits out of their asses. They need a fresh slant, different world, no more origin stories, no more wild straying from the comics unless you're doing shit like joker with smaller budgets, competent people, etc.
I don't see how this is going to work with so many terrible writers under disney's employ. Would probably be more cost effective to sell it off to sony.
>everyone hates the new characters, they can't sell tickets, they have no interesting dynamics built up.
They also gimped the frick out of the remaining characters people did like
moonknight is the only new character people like when compared to others.
doubtful, cause fans will rage. if marvel isn't careful and learn the lessons from disney/dceu it will crash and burn hard.
what might (and should) happen:
half and half (616 universe and the other half from the new reboot universe) take part in secret wars. when it ends, have it end with a proper send off to the 616 characters and a passing of the torch to the new 'reboot' universe. that way if things don't go well, marvel/disney can still make 616 movies/tv shows/cartoons to keep the fans happy if the new reboot mcu movies/tv shows don't perform as well.
that way original mcu universe still exists and still make money for marvel/disney.
>fans will rage
>fans
they've grown up and moved on, anon. maybe you should too
They’re probably keeping some things from the current MCU such as hollandman and the new guardians regardless, also the fantastic 4
I don't think people care about these big superhero crossover movies and extended universes anymore. if you're gonna do superheroes just give us a story about individual heroes and their character development. normie audiences are totally burned out with these big live action extended universe movies with huge casts and overarching plotlines. just give us a fun, mildly escapist movie about people. Look at DC. The Batman was a great film and audiences loved it. They are not going to love another attempt at DC Universe-building.
>The Batman was a great film and audiences loved it
Blows my mind how badly DC treated its fans and they still simp for them.
In a DCgay's mind, "capeshit" refers to ONLY marvel. DC is the thinking man's comic book, you see.
>FF gets one MCU movie before another reboot
Not buying it. That would 4 FF 1s in 5 movies.
If it’s a soft reboot they might keep them around, reed even helped rebuild the multiverse at the end of secret wars in the comics so it kinda lines up
There is no "report" in this tweet you posted.
but I thought phase 4 was a huge success according to israelite-backed disney shills
>mainliners like rdj are done with mcu
>black panther's actor is dead
>the plotlines are basically wrapped up
>adding in fantastic four and x-men would be difficult with current mcu
It makes sense but really it's not going to be successful. You can reset the universe but you can't reset the audience fatigue.
>All new, All different
Yeah, we have been through this before, but leftoids will just keep repeating their horseshit, blaming it's catastrophic flops on everybody else.
We are already at the stage where they put Miles Morales together with succesful characters, like a tumor.
Love how they're repeating the same mistakes the comic books did
the bad ideas in the comics ( all new) came from kevin feige's head, kamala khan is like his spider-man that's why he pushes her so hard
>kinda like what The Flash did for DC
Flash didn't reset shit! What the frick are these capeshitters talking about?
Wasn't even a send off or a tribute. I like the film, but nobody even saw it.
Yo bro, I heard you like reboots, so we rebooted your reboot with another reboot.
What do you think Secret Wars is going to be? It's how they merged the Ultimate Universe and the Main 616 Universe. It dealt with incursions, Dr. Doom creating Battleworld which was an amalgamation of all the different universes, and then a rebirth of the multiverse.
Avengers Secret Wars is going to be the multiverse (Disney and Fox) collapsing on itself and then basically rebooting. Instead of Battleworld they'll use that area where pruned universes went in Loki.
They'll be able to cherry-pick characters they want to keep, and recast them as they see fit. They'll also be able to start over without having to explain how mutants and the Fantastic Four ended up on Earth. Collapsing the multiverse and then soft rebooting it is how Secret Wars happened in the comics, and it's how it'll happen in the MCU.
You thought too hard about this, fren. It won't end well for your fantasy booking.
>You thought too hard about this, fren
No I didn't, it's quite obvious that's what they're doing.
>In the comics there were incursions between multiverses and it ended with Secret Wars in which the multiverse collapsed on itself and soft rebooted.
>In the MCU there are incursions between multiverses and it's ending with Secret Wars in which__________________.
>What do you think Secret Wars is going to be?
Slop
I never said it was going to be good. It's going to be a hamfisted retcon to keep all of their stupid post-snap characters and add in recast X-Men and probably Miles Morales too.
I can't wait to never have to watch any of this crap anymore.
And I won't be watching any of it. I'm happy with my noughties capekino - yes even the objectively shitty movies like Daredevil and Ghost Rider. The MCU had some decent stuff in it but it's long past its sell by date.
rebooting would only save them if they also revamped the studio and started putting in an honest effort again, instead of dumb braindead plots with crap cgi and shoehorned social politics
Bullshit rumor.
When's the next Marvel con? Post Secret Wars projects will be announced. Black Panther 3, Captain Marvel 3, Thunderbolts 2, etc. That's the capeshit machine. It needs to keep pumping out that "hype".
Does this mean no Kang?
That’s right after kang is defeated in secret wars
yea let’s get rid of all our popular characters played by popular actors that everyone loves such as loki, dr strange, deadpool, scarlet witch, spider man, ant man, and thor.
you’d have to be an idiot if u think disney is going to fully reset or soft reboot the MCU & erase 20 years of work.
didn't Disney already replace all the actors except for Spider-Man?
>Captain America is black
>Iron Man is dead
>Thor is a baby girl
>Black Window is dead
>Hawkeye is a girl
>Black Panther is a girl
are these replacements getting replaced?
They need to let it cool off for a good five to eight years. But they need their money so they won't do it.
>scrapping what little left that still works and hoping a now nepoparasite infested management structure will replicate the success you'd happened upon more than a decade ago
I'm really looking forward to this. Colossal money fires are always a beautiful thing to see.
90% of the Marvelgay formula is getting them to watch entire TV shows for tiny snippets of setup that may pay off two phases and three movies from now. If they trash the current universe that will destroy all viewer faith in the already low return on investment of Marvel media. It would be a blunder so bad it may end the cinematic universe fad outright.
Wouldn't it be better just to make the MCU brand go dormant now and reboot it in like 5 to 10 years later instead of praying for a miracle with Secret Wars?