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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Literally every single supervillain at this point.

    Reminder that green goblin killed spider-man's unborn baby.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      well, that's a weird way of putting it. at the time the baby was born

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are you trying to say this is how people perceive their no kill rules?

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Green Goblin is not as popular nor has as many appearances as the Joker in order to have the innumerable events Joker had where he committed the most heinous shit.

    So Batman not killing Joker sticks way more on people’s minds than Spider-Man not killing Green Goblin.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Green Goblin has actual superpowers outside of HE'S CRAZY so Spiderman being unable (not unwilling- Spiderman doesn't have an ironclad nokill rule, that's not a thing in Marvel for the most part) to kill him is more believable.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Couldn't he just use a gun?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Spiderman literally took a bullet to save goblin you moronic vsbattle manbaby

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Didn't he get drained of the Goblin Serum during that time? Because Marvel Knights established that Norman is flat out bullet proof

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Most if not all other comics show Norman getting hurt or killed by bullets. He has to be saved from getting shot by Sentry in Dark Reign.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Alright fair enough I will say though the Goblin Serum also has a stupid high healing factor. Remember Norman came back from being impaled with a rocket powered glider. If he's shot up there's a chance he might come back from getting swiss cheesed.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I doubt it, getting stabbed is a far cry from being shot. There's a reason we design bullets to explode into shards that stay inside your body. If you get stabbed you just pull it out.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Spiderman literally took a bullet to save goblin

        Who wrote this story?

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Green Goblin has killed a good amount of people but he isn't shown actively doing it or he's doing it to bad people to set an example or whatever. I don't think he's ever just tossed a bomb at a random civillian and actually blown him up limb from limb with it, as it usually gets stopped by Spider-man. Meanwhile, Joker shoots cops all the time and gasses entire buildings of people as a setup for any number of crimes that eventually get stopped by Batman, but he started it off with a higher body count than what Green Goblin's escapades end with.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Green Goblin has killed a good amount of people but he isn't shown actively doing it or he's doing it to bad people to set an example or whatever. I don't think he's ever just tossed a bomb at a random civillian and actually blown him up limb from limb with it
      Norman has done all of those things to innocents. Hell he had a stadium of people blown up once.

      That's not to mention the human experimentation and trafficking.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Joker shoots cops all the time and gasses entire buildings of people as a setup for any number of crimes that eventually get stopped by Batman
      name 5 examples

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No Man's Land when Joker got a cop to shoot an entire squadron of his teammates
        Faces of Death that started with Batman finding an apartment where Joker and Dollmaker had mutilated and murdered dozens of people and unfound children
        Gotham Central when Joker drove around in an unmarked van shooting dozens of random people in random locations
        Killer Smile when Joker purposefully got himself arrested by gassing a whole neighbourhood to death and flooding the subway system
        Man who Stopped Laughing when he blew up a train station
        Death of the Family when Joker murdered the entire gcpd police station to announce his return, killed off multiple crime families and later dismembered and mutilated half the staff at Arkham Asylum
        Man who Laughs where Batman's first clue Joker is involved is finding a building full of dead gassed corpses
        Going Sane when Joker started off the comic by fertiliser bombing a parade
        Cacophony where Joker blew up a school with all the kids still inside it
        Lovers and Madmen when he rained poison glass shards down onto people waiting for New Years
        Bonus round: Dark Knight Returns when he gassed a studio audience, collapsed an apartment block of people, poisoned an entire school of children in front of their parents, raped Catwoman and started a Nuclear Winter that caused 9/11 to happen in Gotham years before it happened irl

        ...sorry did you say just 5?

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Last time I checked green goblin hasn’t nuked a city

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He did false flag a packed Soldier Field

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Green Goblin has killed a good amount of people but he isn't shown actively doing it or he's doing it to bad people to set an example or whatever. I don't think he's ever just tossed a bomb at a random civillian and actually blown him up limb from limb with it
        Norman has done all of those things to innocents. Hell he had a stadium of people blown up once.

        That's not to mention the human experimentation and trafficking.

        Norman didn't do that, Loki did. Loki literally used magic to coerce Norman into asking Loki to do something that would give him cause to attack Asgard, and this was what Loki came up with.

        All the things Norman is actually to blame for, and people keep trying to blame him for the one thing that wasn't his fault.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Loki manipulated him but he didn't puppet him, Norman still went along with it driven by his own interests and insecurities.

          I don't think the guy who blows up buildings of people and vivisects victims would have drawn a line at a stadium.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Norman didn't even know Loki had used magic to manipulate him. Whether you think it's in character or not, Norman was shown to be shocked at the scale of what Loki had done, he didn't know the specifics in advance of what was going to happen.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Loki used magic to talk to him in his head and feed him ideas, but he wasn't brainwashing or mind controlling him.

              His reaction is
              >Fine. Take me out of here
              He's disturbed but hardly morally outraged and still goes ahead with the plan to use it as an excuse to invade Asgard. Then it's him who he screams for Sentry to bring down Asgard.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Loki used magic to talk to him in his head and feed him ideas
                >wasn't brainwashing
                Nta but dude, feeding someone ideas and making someone think those are their ideas to the point where they're surprised some event happened is more than a little sketch accountability-wise.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's manipulation but it's not brainwashing, at least not in the sci-fi/magical sense.

                Yeah Loki was at the wheel of this plan, but Norman approved of every step of the plan setting it up, then despite the shock ok'd the explosion and followed through with using it.

                Like fine, it's more Loki's doing than Norman's, but I doubt a court would let Norman off the hook either. Norman never shut down the ideas during or after the fact.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                A person has effectively lost control over their own reality if they truly think that ideas that were magically implanted in their head are their own. When neither Norman nor the green goblin are contesting the legitimacy of those thoughts as their own initiative, you have to logically wonder just how much power is being used in the scenario. Bendis is a hack sometimes, but mind control is the only thing that makes sense.

                Frankly, I think a court of law would let Osborn off the hook for the stadium, but they'd be too busy convicting him with everything else he's responsible for as the leader of the dark agengers that he wouldn't notice.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The courts don't give a crap. Avengers don't get permanent legal consequences held against them for their crimes during hero-versus-hero events. Unless they're Hank Pym. Marvel is a fricking hellscape.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Getting someone to think your ideas are their own is a real world manipulation tactic, and while it might land you a diminished sentanced if it's proven, it doesn't get people off the hook.

                Even if you falsely believe that the suggestion to kill someone is your own idea rather than one fed to you, that doesn't change the fact that you went along with it. Not fully realising the outcome of ok'ing someone to be pushed off a ledge won't get you off the hook if you do nothing to mitigate the circumstances and go ahead on stealing their property as planned.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Using your metaphor, a better example is being convinced it's your idea to send someone to a hunting lodge in the mountains so they don't interfere with your evil plans, then being surprised when someone else pushed them off the cliff. You're not going to mourn but it's not your fault either.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >uses magic to force ideas and imagery into someone's head
                >Real world
                I'm... honestly not sure if you're trolling me right now or not, so until I figure that out, I'm dropping this conversation. To me, it's extremely obvious Loki used his powers to make Norman unnaturally susceptible to his suggestions.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Comics having characters use magic to carry out what you can do in reality but one step further is a thing fiction can do.

                Convincing someone else that your ideas are there's or just describing ideas in an appealing way is just 101 manipulaing, or even just sales pitching.

                The way the comic portrays is that with a magic extra step. There's no indication that Loki is forcing Norman or chemically altering his brain to approve of each idea he feeds him.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                moron.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The point is Norman isn't the one who blew up that stadium, and you should be blaming Loki for it. But then Loki had a last minute change of heart about destroying Asgard, died, got reborn as a kid and he's gotten a free pass ever since.

                Of all the old stories you could go back to and bring up bad things Norman did to people, this just isn't the one. It's Loki's crime.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Norman killed a fricking baby, of his own free will lol.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Probably. That or kidnapped her. We'll never know thanks to editorial leaving that one open to interpretation then having her loving parents finish the job if he didn't.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Again, at the very least he kidnapped a baby, and he's absolutely killed a lot of people. Good people too.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Indeed. Norman is a prolific murderer. Nobody believes he is an innocent baby. There is no arguing his morality—the green goblin is evil. Debate arises when someone gives a distorted view of canon or asserts that a character did something they didn't. Then, discussions are inevitable.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              In fairness we only have the Scorpion's word on this, but if true it probably is the worst thing he's ever done.

              I mean if he didn't kill that one, he now sold his son's soul to Mephisto.

              And that's before the Goblin Formula!

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            In fairness we only have the Scorpion's word on this, but if true it probably is the worst thing he's ever done.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I’d trust Hanzo, he probably saw that baby in the Netherrealm.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Dude 600k babies were killed last year by American women, are you saying the average American woman is twice as evil as Norman fricking Osborn?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No. They deny they were alive to begin with, which makes them 3x as evil.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He also blew a bunch of buildings and shit up at the end of Superior just to frick with Otto.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They should fuse batman and joker and I don't mean like a character in a costume that's half joker half batman but an amalgamation of batman and joker with multiple arms and legs and two heads that way batman would be in control of the joker without killing him

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He tried that, it didn't work

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Do it be like that

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Prove that you're not as ugly as this kid.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You first.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Whatever happened to this guy in the picture?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fent addict.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Anon, you can't say this about every quadroon you see—that's racist.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          meant for

          Fent addict.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Who cares?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nerve gas

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        His mom is white and his father is black that's what happened

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kinda. Thing is, Green Goblin's psuedo-immortal, considering the dude outright woke up and walked off having his guts impaled, so at this point it's likely that even if Peter did decide to just murder Green Goblin he'd walk it off. Joker has no such excuse beyond editorial's protection.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    before brand new day he wasn't that much against killing gobbo. he tried more than one time

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Norman Osborn has become Marvel's Lex Luger mixed with Marvel's Joker and he's still not as iconic as either one of them.

    Besides, he originally killed himself. Same as his son. Not on purpose, shit just happens. And that mitigates the "Goblin gets away" thing because he died. (Yes, Joker originally died in his first appearance but it didn't stick and was edited out of the issue.)

    And Goblin isn't the worst of it. Spider-Man has let Carnage survive. Multiple times. He lives up to his name, why doesn't Spider-Man stop him forever?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Norman Osborn has become Marvel's Lex Luger mixed with Marvel's Joker and he's still not as iconic as either one of them.
      Not even Cinemaphile would argue Lex Luger as being more "iconic" than the Green Goblin.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I meant Lex Luthor. Lex Luger fought Superboy.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

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    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Norman Osborn
      >pretty much functionally immortal thanks to serum
      >should have let Jonah kill him when Doc Ock brought him down to normal
      >fricking dan slott

      >Carnage
      >should have killed him when Peter had the chance
      >he's a god now

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >He still isn’t as iconic as either of them
      Well he was to me as a kid, always saw him as spidey’s nemesis at first alongside doc oct at second and venom in third

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Spider-Man killed him after Gwen. It caused his best friend to take up the mantle and go insane, and then the original got better. Spidey knows death doesn't stick

      Carnage has literally been torn in half and dropped from orbit and come back. After a certain point, you just have to admit that you literally cannot kill them because it won't work

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Green Goblin got killed and redeemed multiple times in the comics and makes a constant effort to not succumb to the serum, Joker on the other hand never made an effort, is permanently mentally broken, and yes, Batman is a darker character, so while Peters resolve for not directly killing others is good nature, Batmans is purely that the mental trauma holds him back from doing so, and if he ever overcomes one mental obstacle, it would only worsen him completely, and turn him into a bigger psychopathic murderer every time he does kill Joker.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I never liked that kind of reasoning with why Batman won't kill. I like Under the Red Hood & all but writing Batman as just as crazy as his villains under the surface is stupid. I'd prefer if it was just as simple as Batman just not wanting to become a killer because he's defined by his parent's deaths. Like the Alex Ross comic where he talks down the boy holding a gun.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's the first part of it, Batman is probably too traumatized by his parents death to allow himself to kill, the second part is the moral spiral he'd go down if he ever overcame that.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The moral spiral is what I don't like. Like Jason himself asks. Why? If he's dedicated this whole time to being good then why would killing even one person make him spiral out of control? Why would it make him a monster? Trauma motivating his morality wouldn't make that morality disappear.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            To be fair, a lot of superhero comics back up what Batman said in that regard, like somehow the moment a hero intentionally tries to kill someone else they're basically forever tarnished and nobody will give them the benefit of the doubt ever again. It honestly speaks more to how stupidly insane the double-sided moral standards are comic book writers impose on the heroes than the heroes themselves.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah that's silly. Superman even executed some krpytonians in another universe then just comes back not wanting to talk about it. Don't know if it ever even comes up again but I can say for certain it didn't tarnish him forever.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And they did that shit far earlier with Wonder Woman basically being forced to kill Maxwell Lord to stop him from using Superman as a living weapon, as though he gave her a choice

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And that was dumb in of itself. Not because Wonder Woman killed, she's not part of that same nobler attitude about things like that, but making Maxwell Lord evil.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I know. I wonder why the first instinct to getting rid of characters the writers hate is to just make them supervillains.

                wondy has never really had a no-kill complex like the other two have. i wonder if paradise island has the death penalty.

                iirc, Paradise Island wasn't exactly against killing but was so rehabilitation-focused for criminals that it didn't come up. They probably changed that in one of a bajillion retcons, but that's what I remember.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Edge = maturity mindset I'd guess.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                wondy has never really had a no-kill complex like the other two have. i wonder if paradise island has the death penalty.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              True but there's also the other side of the coin with shit like Duggan's X-men where the heroes are acting like sadists slaughtering dudes in ways beyond just "war" and enjoying it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                To be fair, muties are scum who deserve to be genocided.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Also, Joe Kerr. The Joker goes sane if he believes Batman is dead (at least pre-Crisis Earth-1 Joker.)

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's still canon

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Source on this?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Batman 48 (2011)

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He wasn't actually Sane in Going Sane, he was just pretending.
        He found a new audience to play to with the girl next door.
        "Joseph Kerr" is just as much a character as the Joker himself.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's still canon

        Batman 48 (2011)

        Ngl, I had this idea in my mind of a story where Bruce kills the joker knowing he will come back to life in order to "kill Batman" by breaking his rule and "freeing" the joker from him after realizing he only exists for him. He basically turns himself in like in the Injustice dream scenario and everyone from there is flabbergastered he's Bruce Wayne and he is a patient there after killing the joker.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Green Goblin got killed and redeemed multiple times in the comics and makes a constant effort to not succumb to the serum
      What comics have you been reading, do you mean Harry specifically?

      Norman only got "redeemed" the first time thanks to amnesia and now Gold Goblin is because he literally had his evil shot out of him by a demonic gun.
      Otherwise he's gleefully evil even when not the Goblin and was bastard long before the formula. Hell he "lost" the Goblin for a while and was still a villain.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do they have to kill their villains? Why can't batman hand over the joker and the court gives him the death penalty?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Protagonist syndrome. As the protagonists, they are responsible for any moral choice that happens in the story. If they don't actively do something, nothing will happen. Real life doesn't work like that, but that's how stories work.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe because GG spent decades being dead before being brought back stupidly. Or because people see Peter as a young frick and not the perfect man like Batman.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Creators would spin bullshit about some kinda pacifistic lesson but in reality they're just censoring their characters to get under PG13 ratings and sell toys.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nah in reality it is extremely hard to create new characters that become popular so killing characters is bad for business

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Green Goblin died and stayed dead for 20 years in real life. There was a time that the Green Goblin was considered to be one of the few comic book characters that died and stayed dead like Uncle Ben, Bucky, and Jason Todd.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Kino death, honestly. But of course they had to frick it up and bring him back and Norman just exists now because capeshit.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The thing is, the Joker gets back on bullshit that causes international incidents and heaps of deaths every other week, and almost as common as that seems to be his willingness to save the Joker from someone who rightfully was about to save his head in. Batman also regularly captures the Joker as well. Meanwhile, Norman usually ends his encounters either dead or skedaddled faster than someone can pin him down, so there's just less for people to actually give him bullshit about. Not to mention, Peter not only has a no-kill rule, but having an inaction policy is also an important part of his character, so it's more understandable for him to not leave people to die.

    The few times where they have written Peter to be a nonce and have taken his rules too far, like the idiocy at the end of Go Down Swinging, people do rip on Spidey about that.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Batman has chosen to save the joker instead of letting him die out of his hands. SpiderMan was there when Gibby killed himself. Check Batgays.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the green goblin was actually dead for a long-ass time

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Green Goblin should kill The Joker.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You guys are forgetting the Spider-Man fandom is basically entirely self-inserters and chicks with twink fetishes these days.
    They don't care about Peter not killing when he probably should because it's "wholesome" while Batman is presented in a way that the code can and is often called into question.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Off the top of my head, he killed his parents' murderer, wolvie's girlfriend, his own girlfriend, some clones, I'm pretty sure a handful of DD and Iron Fist villains, and at least a couple vampires.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Peter is just some schmuck who got bit by a Spider and has super powers. He's your average guy if a bit clever with his love of chemistry. I do not expect him to be perfect.
    Batman has literally unlimited money and resources. He is considered the world's greatest detective and is trained in countless arts and techniques. He could just put Joker in a leg and arm breaking machine that breaks Joker's limbs any time he remotely thinks about crime while intravenously feeding him and removing his shit.
    Peter is just a guy with Superpowers.
    Batman is presented as a hyper competent god among men who can do literally anything the plot wants.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Let's add onto this
      Batman doesn't know the Joker in any remote way. They're entirely disconnected unlike say Harvey Dent and Batman.
      Norman Osborn is the father of Peter's best friend.
      Joker never dies and comes back to life so often that he might as well have a punch card for it.
      Osborn died for literal decades irl and only got brought back because of the clone saga.
      Bruce has enough money to reinforce the prison system at Arkham and try and prevent further escapes
      Peter is a poorgay and can barely afford rent.
      Joker never shows signs of being able to function in normal society without the death of Batman.
      When Norman got amnesia in the early comics he'd revert to a normal business man who was more or less harmless.
      The comparison between these two characters is borderline braindead when they're very fricking different circumstances.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >When Norman got amnesia in the early comics he'd revert to a normal business man who was more or less harmless.
        Not to disagree with the rest of the list, but outside of this era Norman is regularly murdering people. At this point in universe, amnesiac Norman is a blip

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          being fair like Osborn people are familiar with is a Norman born from the 2000s who is an entirely different beast from classic Norman. There's about 24 year gap Norman was dead so they kinda completely altered Norman as a person going from amoral business man who deeply loved his son and wanted him separate from the goblin business to retconning him to be an abusive piece of shit who hated Harry and plots to routinely kill all of Peter's loved ones. Joker meanwhile in most of his appearances save for the Silver Age was a murderous c**t out to kill.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's kind of why I don't care for post-Clone Saga interpretations of Norman

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I feel the same way.
            Modern Norman feels too cartoonishly evil to take seriously as a villain.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't get the attachment to amnesiac Norman. It's not like he's a complex figure tormented by his misdeeds, he's just a nice buisnessan not doing a lot till he suddenly turns Goblin and starts attacking Spider-man. How is that particularly deep, you just have two characters sharing a body and one is pretty bland.

            At least Curt Connors remembers he's the Lizard.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Peter is touted as a near super genius level miracle worker and one of the greatest superheroes in the marvel u. He stopped being an average guy, the second he started becoming a core part of the multiversal spider totem and an avenger and fantastic four reserve member.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nobody with taste likes or wants any of that shit.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Speak for yourself
          He was a Avengers reserve member in the 90s and it didn't affect anything because he rarely showed up in Avengers stories, until frickin Bendis made him a full-time member in the 00s

          Multiversal Spider Totem is mostly shit from Slott. That can go frick off.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Has Bendis ever contributed anything positive to the lore?
            Everything I can remember is completely awful.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm a Spider-Man fan and I don't blame either hero for the actions of a villain tbh.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Damn Jonkler clean your fricking teeth damn

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Green Goblin stayed dead for more years than he was alive though until 1997.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why is it Batman's responsibility to kill Joker?

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not nearly as familiar with the Spider-Man mythos as I am with Batman, but in almost all continuities (even the most kid-friendly ones), Joker is a terrorist who has killed literally hundreds if not thousands of people. He personally beat Batman's young adoptive son to death with a crowbar, paralyzed and raped one of Batman's friends, and bombed a kindergarten for no other reason than for fun. He is the DC universe's embodiment of pure evil, second only to Darkseid. Green Goblin is just a crazy little guy who is the schizo split personality of Peter's idol and his best friend's dad. The Batman mythos are just in general a lot more serious and higher-stakes than Spider-Man, so it's held to a different standard.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Green Goblin is just a crazy little guy who is the schizo split personality of Peter's idol and his best friend's dad.
      No your not familiar with the Spider-man mythos. Norman isn't the Joker I'll give you that, but he's a sadistic murderous bastard on both sides on both sides of the personality who has a tendency to blow up buildings, throw women off bridges and cannot be trusted around children.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Spider-man killed Green Goblin. More than once, I think. "Never, ever kill anyone. For any reason." is pretty much only Batman's thing. He didn't start with that rule, and has broken it several times.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Good bye Green Goblin!
      Carl, that kills people!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Peter's no kill rule is because he's a nice person and nice people don't kill people. Not that he's obligated to NOT kill people. Bro legit can kill any gangbanger or thug in a single punch, it's not even that hard. He's just a good person and realizes that they're not threats to him really. Do not piss him off or that can go out the window, looking at you Carnage and Norman.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Peter doesn't explicitly have a no-kill rule akin to Batman, there's nothing in Spider-Man comics that supports this. Granted, the reason Peter DOESN'T kill his villains is because of what you said, he avoids bringing death to his enemies when it's not proportional to what they're currently doing.

          Rob a bank? Hold people hostage? Beat someone up? That'll get you webbed up, maybe knocked out if he feels like it. Like you said, he'll only kill if it's someone far too dangerous or unhinged (an active sadistic murderer mowing through crowds of innocent people).

          Within canon, the throughline is that Bruce Wayne would NEVER kill anyone, no matter how bad (barring cases where the fate of reality is at stake: Darkseid). However, Peter WOULD kill and has no qualms about doing so provided it be proportional to what's happening (Morlun, Norman, etc).

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The no kill rule mostly comes from Slott's autism with No One Dies. Peter has actually gotten several of his villains killed in actuality.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The no kill rule mostly comes from Slott's autism with No One Dies. Peter has actually gotten several of his villains killed in actuality.

            Here's him killing Finisher with his own missile.
            >this got retconned

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Oops.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Here's him killing Whisper by using Pulse as a human shield.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                frick rather him killing whisper by blocking the shots with Whisper's body as a human shield from Pulse's blasts i am full of mistakes.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There's also an important distinction to be made when comparing Spider-Man and Batman: Batman's no-kill rule was established due to parental concerns of violence and death in his earliest handful of issues (where Batman was akin to The Shadow and had no issue with slaying murderous supervillains). The no-kill rule only continues to exist as it does due to it lasting for so long, becoming part of Batman's public image, and being intertwined with what his supporting cast represent (like Robin). This rule ended up doing well to make Batman as a superhero distinct from the hero pulps he took inspirations from where there was no moral quandary over bringing death to murderers.

            Spider-Man is a different situation where you weren't going to see casual killing from the character on the level of hero pulps or even other superheroes because it's just not what the original story by Ditko and Lee was concerned with. But overall, if it's relevant to the story, then the general consensus is that Peter is willing to kill.

            But it varies on the writer on whether or not Peter would feel remorse, that isn't consistent.

            The no kill rule mostly comes from Slott's autism with No One Dies. Peter has actually gotten several of his villains killed in actuality.

            Yeah, also this: Peter HAS gotten several villains killed before, thanks for pulling up examples. I think the bigger issue is that people (like Slott) WANT Peter to have a no-kill rule in order to sell him as a squeaky-clean role model so selling toys to kids is less of an issue and in order to jerk themselves off as they self-insert into Peter.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oops.

        frick rather him killing whisper by blocking the shots with Whisper's body as a human shield from Pulse's blasts i am full of mistakes.

        He doesn't kill people but sometimes he guides them to their deaths, or their deaths to them.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The Goblin was straight up intent for murder. Like you cant contest that as like accidental. That was deliberately tossing his bombs to blow him up even if he ended up surviving that. The main writer tho said that Peter knew the Goblin would survive that but I kinda doubt that he was thinking rationally after he killed Ben.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He was just returning them to their owner

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The exchange was
              >only one will die tonight
              >goodbye goblin
              >You think this is the end! Lmao!
              It was written as an attempt at killing a pos

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Wow. Spider-Man's a pregnant wife-beating murderer.

            And this is the "friendly" neighbourhood Spider-Man? The one all the little kids are supposed to look up to?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              This is something people should actually compare to.
              Peter Parker
              >Peter beats his wife
              >was experiencing a mental breakdown and more or less going insane
              >thought his entire life was a lie and he could be the fake all along
              >realized that he might a test tube baby
              >more or less swept under the rug
              Hank Pym
              >was in his right mind albeit a dark place
              >the fact he was an abuser got turned into a running plotline
              >the avengers even thought it was fricked up but nobody knew what to do
              >constantly gets brought up all the time
              >the slap is now one of Hank Pym's defining moments

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                WHEN WILL PYM gayS UNDERSTAND THIS SPIDERMAN IS POPULAR ANTMAN IS NOT

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                When Marvel makes Peter and MJ a married couple again and retcon OMD

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The actual difference is that there wasn't a writer who decided that Mary Jane should have never forgiven Peter for hitting her and then made sure to bring it up everything time they were in the same room. Reed Richards has struck Sue as well and he's much more popular than Hank.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Beating women is based and more heroes need to do exactly that.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thing is Hank Actually killed people in his psychosis as Yellowjacket and also he's the creator of ultron HOWEVER Hank shouldn't get as much as he has over the years and a rep as a wife beater when he only did it once (twice?) So yeah I blame the Ultimates for ruining Hank Pym's image for millennials and zoomers who weren't familiar with his character

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why does Oscorp explode so much?

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Spider-man has attempted to murder norman multiple times.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the only time he ever "attempted" to was handing norman back a bag of grenades he threw at him. And the story literally said he knew he would survive it anyway (which he did). Spider-man saves goblin every time

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ...Dude. He only came back because he's nearly impossible to permanently kill in canon. Did Peter Parker kill Norman? Probably. Did he recover. Yes. When your opponent is functionally immortal it doesn't matter if you kill them. They'll just come back. Peter has even said as much.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He didn’t kill Norman, Norman stabbed himself then took years and literal amnesia from the trauma to recover.
          He’s not “functionally immortal”, he has been killed in countless fricking timelines, all you need to do is gove him a more fatal wound then a knife in the liver + 30 years hospital time. Just shoot him.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm talking about the bombs, dude. Everyone knows he killed himself.
            >the timelines arguments
            Do not bring stories that literally require the character to die to function as "proof" of anything.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Norman was perfectly fine after the bombs and peter literally knew it wouldn’t kill him, peter has never tried to kill him.
              And Norman’s regularly had to be saved in canon by average people murdering him. Punisher had to be stopped from killing him by Sentry. JJJ had to be stopped from killing him. Punisher did kill him in secret wars.

              He has never been “functionally immortal” in the slightest, he’s not deadpool, you must be in cloud cuckooland or something. Just shoot him in the head once and he’s dead, he barely survived a knife in the tummy.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Norman was perfectly fine after the bombs and peter literally knew it wouldn’t kill him, peter has never tried to kill him.
                How? Sincerely. How did you think he "just knew, trust me"? The goblin formula brought back a stromm that was alive, if buried and atrophied. It brought back fricking Ned. It brought back Phil long enough to get eaten by Normie. Like it or not, that's how he knew Norman would get better. God forbid I read these comics.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He knew because they had been throwing those bombs at eachother the entire goddamn issue. Norman throws like 12 at peter a few pages earlier and peter’s just standing about not even reacting to any of them. And even after they blow up norman isn’t injured, he’s still talking and laughing and completely fine, the explosion did nothing but make his glider malfunction and crash

                It’s not because he healed, it’s because he’s literally just not injured from it. Apparently you don’t read these comics.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I love the back up story that describes Norman's scent as barbecue. Goblin got fried. Counters this silly argument nicely.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The “silly argument” that you wanna so badly pretend your cringy action figure is immortal and unkillable because he survived a firecracker blowing up?

                Just pop one in his skull and splatter his brains on a wall. Bingo, bango, he’s dead. So much for “immortal” lol

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, anon. The silly argument where I'm supposed to pretend the character that came back from the dead didn't come back from the dead, especially since others with similar shit have likewise come back as well.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If you need 30 years to recover from getting stabbed in the tummy, then you can’t recover from someone blowing your brains out. “Can’t stay dead” is a phrase, which means you can’t stay away leave someone alone. Norman literally right there is crying that Peter is gonna kill him.
                His healing factor isn’t deadpool’s, it’s a weaker tier than Slade Wilson’s. He can’t recover from actual lethal shit like getting his brains blown out, he can barely recover from getting stabbed in the tummy with decades and decades to heal.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Irl time does not count for actual recovery time, Mr. Bad Faith. He woke up from in a morgue before he was buried.

                Also, he got stabbed, partially in the heart, with a 400 pound flying motorcycle. That kills most people. This argument is lame.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Woke up in a morgue and still took canonical in-story years after that to recover, plus years of amnesia from the trauma of just getting stabbed. His regen is weak as shit, he needs literal years to recover from shit
                >partially in the heart
                Shit you made up. He just got stabbed. Getting his brains blown out would kill him, he has had to be saved again and again and again from getting shot in the head, he has NEVER been immortal.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >made up

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >years
                Walked it off a day later.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The original story he took many years to recover and got amnesia. This is him getting stabbed in the stomach instead of the chest so it’s easier to recover from.
                Getting shot in the head you can’t recover from.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >amnesia
                ?????

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No. He was fully recovered after he woke up in the morgue. He left for Europe to secure an empire there and give Harry a chance to make him proud.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >plus years of amnesia from the trauma of just getting stabbed.
                Where are you getting that. Amnesiac Norman happens after ASM #40 when the lab Peter and Norman where fighting in was blowing up, and ends in The Death of Gwen Stacy.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Spidergays like you are fricking delusional I swear

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Norman was perfectly fine after the bombs and peter literally knew it wouldn’t kill him, peter has never tried to kill him.
          How? Sincerely. How did you think he "just knew, trust me"? The goblin formula brought back a stromm that was alive, if buried and atrophied. It brought back fricking Ned. It brought back Phil long enough to get eaten by Normie. Like it or not, that's how he knew Norman would get better. God forbid I read these comics.

          Irl time does not count for actual recovery time, Mr. Bad Faith. He woke up from in a morgue before he was buried.

          Also, he got stabbed, partially in the heart, with a 400 pound flying motorcycle. That kills most people. This argument is lame.

          Look if you want it straight from the author’s mouth itself, Glenn Green did an interview about his comic wherein Norman survived that glider stab:

          [ GLENN’S COMMENTS : My original idea for the beginning of THE OSBORN JOURNAL was to show Norman bursting forth from his grave. But Tom Brevoort rightly pointed out to me out that an autopsy would have to have been performed on Norman before he was buried, and there’s simply NO way he could have survived that, healing factor notwithstanding. So I had to work around that. But I soon realized that by addressing the autopsy directly as a story point, a door had opened for me that would allow me to bring in Harry Osborn and have him get involved as early as possible in terms of protecting the secret that his father was the Green Goblin. It was a way to show Harry beginning to take some real initiative, which would impress Norman. ]

          So there you have it from the author. Goblin serum lets you heal from singular, grievous injuries like stabbing. But he wasn’t really dead from the stab, just healing, and being cut open or shot in the head would 100% have killed him for good. Remember you also have Lefty Donovan who took the exact same serum as Norman and died permanently to flying too fast into a brick wall.
          He’s not immortal and he’s certainly not unkillable, a gunshot or even a brick wall could do it, it’s just that none of the heroes have been mad enough at him to try killing him, or just shoot him in the head, and those that have been have been like Punisher have always been stopped before they did shoot him dead.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Credit where it's due, thanks for trying to base this on canon, but
            >Brevoort says
            Opinion immediately disregarded. Breevort thinks he shouldn't be able to survive an autopsy. Pretty sure that statement from the author stating what his editor told him to put in Osborn Journal has been retconned at times and is unreliable. The same author wrote that Stromm was alive after getting autopsied and Ned was seen getting out of the grave after getting atopsied. Hell, same writer said Osborn wasn't involved in the whole Aunt May thing.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              no it’s not “unreliable”, first of all the editor ranks above the writer on a book in the production process and also writes on the book before it is published, Glenn himself says it was “rightly” pointed out to him, not that he was forced to but that he wholly agrees with it, and autopsies are not interchangeable they are to determine a cause of death, which is entirely different for an external wound on the neck vs an internal haemorrhage.
              If both the editor and the auhor simultaneously agree that getting cut open would and will kill Norman, then he’s not unkillable. He has a very weak healing factor that can account for being stabbed, but if Peter or anyone else actually wanted to kill him they could and would just shoot him in the head.

              I don’t see why this is your pushed narrative when multiple comic plots involve Peter desperately needing to save Norman from people shooting at him. The writers clearly do not agree with you that he is immortal, the characters clearly do not act like he is immortal, and now the writers themselves say in writing he is not. You seriously remind me of a deathbattle gay with your cognitive dissonance between what the authors themselves say and what you push as real.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nta. Can't remember many times where Peter saved Norman from bullets tbh. Can you point at something besides Slott?

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Green Goblin was dead for thirty real years because Spider-Man killed him!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No he wasn’t, goblin literally stabbed himself while trying to kill spiderman.
      Why do spidergays feel the need to lie to everyone?

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ill never forgive marvel for making the thing look like a circumcision

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Will never not make me mad.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >spiderman
    >attracted to women
    >batman
    >attracted to young boys with dark hair and dead parents

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Batman gets more pussy than Beta Parker.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        AHAHAHAHAH
        >Parker
        >Jean Grey
        >Jubilee
        >Rogue
        >She-Hulk
        >Black Cat
        >Silver Sable
        >Mary Jane
        >Gwen Stacy

        Batman?
        >Catwoman
        >uuuh... ummm... A'gul's daughter.... mmmmm uuuuuuuuuuuuuh...
        >Harley and Ivy! wait they're together....

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Jean Grey is Wolverine's b***h, Jubilee and Rogue were never with peter, She-Hulk has never outside of your pathetic self-inserter dreams even interacted with peter, Black Cat got blacked by Luke Cage and fricked by daredevil and has currently left him, Silver Sable isn't with him, Mary Jane is getting fricked by Paul and also got blacked, Gwen Stacy got fricked by Goblin and every other man in town, and was also blacked.

          https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Batman%27s_Love_Interests

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Catwoman
          Vicki Vale
          Talia al Ghul
          Wonder Woman
          Zatanna
          Black Canary
          Phantasm
          Julie Madison
          Linda Page
          Silver St Cloud
          Jezebel Jet
          Harley
          Ivy
          countless others

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >She-Hulk

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because Marvel is better than DC

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Batman is just as insane as Joker. What's Spidergay's excuse?

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You know what confuses me about capeshit bulletproof arguments? They rarely bring in different calibers. Like a 10 mm is going to hit at 50000 psi and combined equals roughly 10 tons. Spider-Man hits at 10 tons. Why does getting hit with something you can hit at kill you instantly? How is he not breaking his body if his body can't take 10 tons?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wonder Woman has always died to bullets yet also beats up Superman. Don’t think about it too hard.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Surface area, a bullet focuses all that energy to a small spot while a punch spreads the force out over the whole fist.

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    God, Superior Spiderman was kino

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We didn't know it was the good old days

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Batman/Joker dynamic is interesting because originally nobody gave a frick about him not killing the Joker because he was just a clown themed mobster and he was just a glorified private detective and only the biggest of morons would unironically throw a fit at the thought of a PI not drilling a hole into an apprehended criminal's forehead. And then at some point someone decided the Joker needed to actually be a clown themed terrorist that uses toxic gas to torture crowds of innocents and people still didn't give a frick about Batman not drilling a hole in his head because at the end of the day it was just a wacky comic book about a bat man fighting an evil clown and it'd be hard to have more stories about the wacky bat man fighting the evil clown man if the clown died, so people were willing to look past it. And then they made Batman an autistic moron that routinely cries about how he's so mentally ill he'll treat murder like eating potato chips if he ever snaps Joker's neck and how him and Joker are basically cursed soulmates and a bunch of other weird shit, and then people started saying he needs to kill the Joker and that he's an idiot for not having done it by now because him killing the Joker would be their version of him breaking up with a toxic girlfriend, which is what most people mentally catalog their dynamic as nowadays.

    Everyone gives Batman shit for not killing the Joker because he's a fourth wall breaking c**t that'll outline his laundry list of warcrimes to the viewer before Batman acknowledges it and then tells the viewer he still won't kill. When people say Batman's a cowardly idiot for not killing the Joker what they're actually saying is "it doesn't matter how good Joker's lip game is, you need to cut that b***h off immediately". Nobody gives Spider-Man shit for not killing the Green Goblin because he's a spider man fighting a wacky goblin man that throws exploding pumpkins, and only a moron would care about something like that.

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    first of all, the green goblin was basically the only villain who never went to jail of his original rogues gallery, so the "he is just going to break out again" never came up
    second, the green goblin was dead in real time for more than 20 years before he was brought back for some insane reason

    so there was really only a single moment where spider-mans restraint is tested, when he beats green goblin half to death after green goblin killed gwen
    this isnt an issue he grapples with every other season

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      after clone arc they turned green goblin into a bargain-bin joker. Now they regularly try to arrest him nonlethally and he’ll get away in the stupidest ways. Someone already mentioned peter took a bullet to save him after red goblin

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I hate Dan fricking Slott.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It’s funny how bad it gets though

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Readers don't consider green goblin as much of a threat as joker. That's not true, but that's why. Joker takes up 90% of people's mind when they think of crime in Gotham, Goblin is a pretty rare story. Most people don't even know who Green Goblin is, let alone assume he's spiderman's nemesis. Venom, kingpin or Punisher are more popular characters. Hell even shocker or electro tbh. Green Goblin doesn't seem as threatening to Spider-man and New York as joker does to batman and Gotham to readers, or more accurately, cartoon watchers.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It is pretty true actually, that’s why Spiderman gets forgiven and Batman doesn’t. Sure once every ten years norman osborn becomes shield director or doc ock builds a space satellite laser to take over japan and the big hero six have to stop him, but that will never be seen as more vile and evil than things Batrogues do

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Has anybody actually tried to count the marks?

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just my two cents for your conversation.
    Healing factors are fricking stupid and most times writers don't even remember they're a thing unless you're a part of the Wolverine/Sabretooth/Deadpool Weapon X "family".

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Batman got stabbed and blown up many times. I suppose he’s “immortal” now too.
    Spidergays are completely deranged self-inserters who desperately want to powerlevelgay.

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don’t know why so many people itt are lying and saying peter doesn’t have a no-kill rule. Probably just because they wanna make him look edgy or different, but it’s not true.
    He’s got the most outspoken no-kill rule in marvel, especially with his main rogues. And he always has, even when carnage was first introduced he begged firestar not to kill him. One or two writers occasionally forgetting that in 60+ years with some d-listers doesn’t change that fact, Batman’s had writers sometimes forget too.

    All in all it’s just the presentation. Batman villains outright aim to kill as many innocents as they can in obscene ways, Peter’s villains are either out for money or just to fistfight him specifically, people just get caught in the crossfire.

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The word of the day is "context".
    Spidey generally has a no kill rule, but its not something pushed on the limelight and they have shown cases where he totally is a-okay with murder but simply cooses not to as an ideal.

    Batman's no kill rule is brought up all the damn time and the center of so many stories. This was fine back when Joker was just a mafia boss with a gimick, now no longer the case as writers feel the need to rise stakes.

    It would be fine if it was a mostly unspoken rule every now and then brought up but so much of Batman's stories is
    >NOOOO JASON YOU CAN'T KILL THE JOKER DESPITE THROWING 500 NEW BORN INFANTS IN A MEAT GRINDER
    >Why not?
    >BECAUSE YOU CAAAAAN'T *Proceeds to beat Jason to near death*

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Merely accepting murder as a solution once leads to further cases being solved that way. Because it is a solution for each particular case. To prevent further murders of people. After a time big guys will run out, so only street muggers will be left, just like the one, who had killed Batman's parents. This would be preventively killed too. Then psychos with potentially violent behaviour. At that moment one is a mass murderer with hundreds of personal kills at least, most of them to prevent deaths. Eventually it would be more efficient to track down everyone and kill for thoughtcrimes to prevent murders. If you don't see a problem with that - you aren't exactly in the right mind. There is a lot of atrocities had been committed in the name of justice and safety of innocents, applying even more will eventually force one to classify less and less people as innocents - and to more murders. That is not to mention, that a very great example on dealing with crimes would be given to others.

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Violence is necessary in order to protect and elevate the prosperity and greatness of those who have chosen to succeed.

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Joker would not live ten minutes past Batman dropping him off at the local precinct anyway. After killing a lot of random citizens, lots of cops, and destroyed a lot of property owned by a lot of wealthy influential Gothamites, someone would take him out back and beat him with a pipe and leave him in a cell to bleed to death.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wealthy gothamites thrive off of the arkham crazies, they drive up the real estate business and got rid of the mob

      Nta. Can't remember many times where Peter saved Norman from bullets tbh. Can you point at something besides Slott?

      Nta too, I remember Sentry had to save Norman from getting shot by a sniper

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I remember that, too. I mean specifically Peter doing the desperate saving. DR! Sentry would prostrate himself on the ground if it meant saving Norman from walking on hot sand at the beach.

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you need to understand, some writers just forget what powers characters have. With Norman, how well his healing factor works depends on the writer. One guy says he is bulletproof, while the other will have someone save him from a bullet. One guy will claim he can walk off falling off a tall building while the other goes it breaks every bone in his body while a third one will say it can kill him. This along with his strength is incredibly inconsistent. I get why they play around with his dynamic with the Goblin, but the other stuff can get annoying. You'd think Marvel writers would be a bit more knowledgeable than the average twittex poster.

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Batman gets shit on because the Joker doesn't get any real punishment for his crimes.

    Think about it like this, when Norman murdered Gwen Stacy, he was killed off and stayed dead for over twenty years.

    When the Joker killed Jason Todd AND paralyzed Barbara Gordon, he was only out of the comics for under a year.

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Capeshit is moronic but those who take it seriously are even more moronic.

  50. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's just a little boy in a playsuit crying for mommy and daddy.

  51. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Didn't Batman leaving Joker alive lead to like, more villains appearing too?
    >Harley Quinn went insane and fell in love with Joker
    >Punchline

  52. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >lived long enough to see people think "superior spiderman" was good
    I need to die faster, it's only going to get worse

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Worse?
      No, you lived long enough to watch Spider-Man become so shit that Superior is good in comparison.

      It's BEEN worse.

  53. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  54. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone could kill Joker. Whatever state Gotham City is in could just make it law that they do lethal injections of insane murderers. Then next time Batman turns Joker in, they could execute him. But apparently they'd rather watch their citizens get lobotomized by Joker Toxin over and over and over and over. Maybe Batman's true sin is not using his vast wealth to seize governmental power, and fix the criminal justice system.

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