Do you feel like Disney ruined Star Wars on purpose and if so, why?

Do you feel like Disney ruined Star Wars on purpose and if so, why?

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  1. 10 months ago
    all fields

    Star Wars is better than it's ever been, so no.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Disney shills waste no time, do they?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's pretty obvious yesterday all the Lucasfilm shills came out to defend a lot of Disney-era Lucasfilm stuff because there's growing problems inside and looming threat of layoffs

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Star Wars is a pillar of culture. Everyone could talk about star wars together. Hell there was even May 4th. But now? Star Wars is a bipartisan political issue and the only ones who pretend to like it as it is are ones invested in the Disney corporation (the fierce advocates for trans and sexual kids) politically.
      But there’s more to it other than simply destroying the camaraderie that Star Wars brings, when they bought Lucasfilm they are obligated to produce X amount of media related to that IP or they lose the rights, so they hastily slapped together some awful story that only serves to eradicate and humiliate the original characters and make them and their families all die in vain probably like 6 months after they bought the rights and queefed the “movie” out a year later. They HAVE to make these films and they have a timeframe to do it which compounds their existing agenda of turning a beloved pillar of culture into some divisive and controversial topic no one brings up outside of your clique.
      Then there’s federal bailouts. Each time these products flop (all of them besides TFA) Disney gets a bailout of printed tax dollars equal to the amount that they projected were gonna make from the movie. It’s a lot more profitable for them to produce flops that are guaranteed to make bailout money as in order to make real money you have to make a good movie. The only reason TFA made money was because it was NEW STAR WARS so everyone had to see it, but most of those viewers didn’t wanna see any more after. But all these federal bailouts that add up to billions of dollars are printed by the government, lowering the value of the dollar, and while this is no skin off the nose of a trillionaire conglomerate, the layman suffers (milk is almost 10 bucks a gallon). Weakening normal people is their goal so it’s a double edged sword of destroying culture and crippling the economy all while profiting off spook funny munny.

      kek, dilate

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Everything you posted is correct but Milk is just barely averaging below $5.00 a gallon, get offline and live in reality.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lmao i cant stop laughing at this. Good bait.

      I really pity the npc's that liked the slop disney put out. Imagine your standards being that low.

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    ESG and civil rights legislation

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    star wars is the original trilogy and that's all
    not trying to be an elitist, but everything that came after is corporate sterile capeshit shit

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      This guy fricks

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Seethe harder

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Other guys

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      And they even ruined that with the edits nobody wanted or asked for

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      This but the prequels

      And they even ruined that with the edits nobody wanted or asked for

      >NOOOOOOO THEY FIXED SHIT THAT WAS ALWAYS A PROBLEM? I'M GOING INSANE AAAAAAAAAA

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >FIXED SHIT THAT WAS ALWAYS A PROBLEM?
        lol

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes Mos Eisley consisting of 3 sparse shots is a problem
          Yes lightsabers changing colors between shots is a problem
          Yes the Ewok eyelids not functioning properly is a problem
          Yes a subpar puppet that didn't work as intended is a problem

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            How is a problem and for whom?

            I suggest it was a problem for Lucas, and Lucas alone, and the nature of the problem was him not having enough money in his bank account.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              For anybody who actually appreciates worldbuilding and attention to detail

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Those are vanishingly small improvements compared to the major changes everyone complains about.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, I remember watching Return of the Jedi as a kid and thinking what a PROBLEM it was for Anakin Skywalker to be so OLD as a Force ghost! It bothered me for YEARS until they edited the movie to feature Hayden Christiansen instead. Now I can rest easy knowing that Darth Vader's redemption was actually hollow because he reverted to his appearance before turning to the Dark Side instead of appearing as he was when he died like Obi-Wan and Yoda both do. Bravo, Lucas, thank you for FIXING this GLARING PROBLEM that existed for 40 years!

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >a random guy should show up instead of anybody we actually know
          Explain why he doesn't look like this

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >a random guy should show up instead of anybody we actually know
            From Luke's perspective, Hayden Christiansen is the random guy he doesn't know.
            >Explain why he doesn't look like this
            Because it's a standard trope in religious teachings and fantasy writing that when someone is redeemed and moves to a positive afterlife their body is made whole.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >From Luke's perspective, Hayden Christiansen is the random guy he doesn't know.
              As is Shaw, Vader didn't look like that. Remember what was said earlier?
              >Now I can rest easy knowing that Darth Vader's redemption was actually hollow because he reverted to his appearance before turning to the Dark Side instead of appearing as he was when he died like Obi-Wan and Yoda both do.
              >as he was when he died
              So he should look like this. But that's not the argument is it?
              >Because it's a standard trope in religious teachings and fantasy writing that when someone is redeemed and moves to a positive afterlife their body is made whole.
              Ah, so if anything he should look like how he did *before* he was maimed and disfigured and had much of his body replaced with machinery.

              Those are vanishingly small improvements compared to the major changes everyone complains about.

              That are b***hed about all the same as the 'more severe' changes.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Ah, so if anything he should look like how he did *before* he was maimed and disfigured and had much of his body replaced with machinery.
                No, he should have his current body made whole to indicate that his present self experienced a genuine redemption. Sending him back to a state "when he was good" or "before he was maimed" implies that his present self was beyond redemption and had to be reverted to an earlier stage in his life.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >No, he should have his current body made whole to indicate that his present self experienced a genuine redemption
                So he had to grow his hair back, regrow all his lost limbs and body parts, and start wearing Jedi robes as a Force ghost. Okay.
                So why can't he look younger too, instead of like a man who was older than Obi-Wan but also his apprentice and Luke's father?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why didn't Obi-Wan look like Ewan McGregor?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                A question with the same answer of “why is Anakin in Jedi robes instead of the armor he died in?”

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Because the Vader armor is evil and Jedi robes are good. It's not that hard.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >A question with the same answer of “why is Anakin in Jedi robes instead of the armor he died in
                Anakin died in his Jedi robes. It's symbolism.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >So why can't he look younger too
                Anakin is supposed to be in his 40s around the time of RotJ anyways, the real question is 'why should he look drastically older'

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >As is Shaw, Vader didn't look like that.
                Maybe if you're a faceblind autist who can't distinguish facial features behind moderate superficial disfigurement.

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    No.

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    She probably believes she's improved it. I really wonder what's like to live in the mediocrity bubble of modern Hollywood. Anyway, I'm grateful because thanks to her I'll never care for Star wars again

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    KK ruined it not that I like Disney but the marvel side of things can put out stuff like guardians of the galaxy 3 but lucasfilm cannot make anything good anymore

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Guardians 3 was fricking awful and proves how used to mediocrity audiences have become. The whole thing felt like 3 or 4 disjointed episodes of a lame streaming show, wake up and smelly the shitay.

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    on purpose, no, through incompetence yes

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      One is happenstance, twice is a coincidence, but three times (not counting the shows)?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        when you put a moron in charge of a franchise it's going to keep being shit until you get rid of them

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Correct.

  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I hope Kathleen Kennedy becomes bankrupt and homeless spending the rest of her life sleeping on the streets covered in wienerroaches suffering from agonizing cancer and syphilis.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Even if she somehow loses the millions she's made over her career (she gets points in movies she produced, for life), she has her husbands massive wealth to live off. She will never miss a bill or a meal for the rest of her wretched life. Her and Frank Marshall are some of the wealthiest people in Hollywood.

      Most celebrity net worth sites over-estimate people's wealth, but I would believe for those two, it's severely under-estimated.

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Everything loved by white male nerds in the 80's and 90's has been ruined by remakes and reboots and it is 100% on purpose.
    He-Man
    Ghostbusters
    Star Wars
    Star Trek
    Transformers
    TMNT
    D&D
    Comic books

    I'm sure I'm missing some things, but off the top of my head, this is what I can think of.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Thing 2011
      Blade Runner 2047
      Total Recall
      Thank god Goonies is safe for now

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Robocop

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous
      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Goonies is on the chopping block, I heard.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          I shudder when I think about how they will desacrate BttF when Zemeckis dies.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine if they did a dark and gritty reboot of Revenge of the Nerds, but instead of the original story, after the panty raid, they all get arrested and go to prison for sexual assault.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Except Back to the Future. The only IP that's remained untouched. You just know they're going to remake it once Zemeckis and Gale are dead.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        They are frothing at the mouth to ruin that shit.
        I mean, imagine what they'd do going back to 1955 in a modern one.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          BTTF reboot featuring a black girl as Marty. She goes back to the 1955 and experience muh racism. Doc Brown is also a black scientist, but all his white peers dismiss him because of muh racism. Incest and rape plot line are erased. Starts rapping during the school dance and invents hip hop.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Doc Brown is also a black scientist
            In this remake, in order to subvert expectations, the character will be renamed "Doc White."

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. There's a very obvious effort to dismantle white media. Would have sounded moronic several years ago, but white people can't have shit anymore. Even Tom Clancy adaptations get the same treatments.

      Ironically, I've been replaying the class stories in SWTOR lately and the writing in them make the Disney Wars look like Tumblr fanfic. Even the pretty well hated Trooper storyline at least presents a concise plot and more than a few appreciable character moments and actual growth in a few companions. If Bioware and EA could pull that off, there's no excuse for Disney. It literally has to be on purpose.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's not even just
        >white media
        It's anything aimed at boys and young men. The message is "You have already been conquered". It's part of subjugating the population. They don't want any more "let's roll" types trying to stand up to the terrorists.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          So this. And its unnoticed by anyone but the ones already critical of the culture. Normies dont even know the mass depression, narcissism and delusions suffered by them and their peers are highly influenced by deliberately shitty demoralizing media.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Hey, don’t sully the name of tumblr fanfics by comparing them to ~~*NuWars*~~.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Would have sounded moronic several years ago
        No, you just weren't paying attention or listening.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Don't know if I agree about comic books, unless you're only counting the heavy hitters like Marvel and DC. The last time I was in a comic book store, it was filled with plenty of independent artists and writers who are still the antithesis of being pozzed.

      Hell, I think comic stores may be the last holdout/refuge of unapologetic nerddom.

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    buuu huuu she ruined muhhh goyslop for adult children buuu huuuuu

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Goyslop
      Lucas is a lot of things but he's not a israelite who made malicious media to train White kids wrong in purpose.
      Maybe you should lurk before posting

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe you should take your meds.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Explain how pre-Disney star warsis goyslop

  11. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's fascinating how S1 of The Mandalorian was a success since KK was busy ruining episode 9. She then realized Mandalorian was the only popular Star Wars content, so she decided to start meddling and add her influence. S3 then turned into complete shit.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      turned into shit cause Favreau is a hack

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        sure thing, troon.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          cowboys vs aliens

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      My thing is that there is room for a strong female character in most fiction. But why does it ALWAYS insist on being at the detriment of the established male leads? Rather than actually bring women up, they tear men down to the level of women. It's fricking moronic.

      Imagine if they did a dark and gritty reboot of Revenge of the Nerds, but instead of the original story, after the panty raid, they all get arrested and go to prison for sexual assault.

      The panty raiders would 100% be all white and the guys who catch them and turn them into the police would be all black and then the girls end up with them.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        you will never be white

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          You will never have a soul.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      source?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It turned to shit as soon as TCW characters started showing up.

  12. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    1. Yes.
    2. Because they wanted to transform it into a political platform and vehicle.

    The problem is, it died faster than they thought, and just helped to wake people up and radicalize them away from The Left because they fricked with something normal people really really didn't want fricked with.
    So based Kathleen I guess.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Because they wanted to transform it into a political platform and vehicle.
      inb4
      >IT WAS ALWAYS POLITICAL!!!!
      There's a difference between allegories about totalitarian regimes throughout history and
      >Men bad; women good

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can blame the "left" if you want, but the reality is this is an upper class thing. They believe they are good people making a positive difference by ruining this shit. They are desperate to justify their unjustifiable wealth, so this is what we get, ESG and other feel good shit that ruins things for normal people but makes rich frickwits feel so enlightened.
      Same with the troony shit. Actual leftists view them as a side show by the bourgeois to distract people and to break up lower class cohesion. Right wing morons are too busy using them to smear their ideological enemies that they play right into the hands of their actual oppressors.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        And yet both the upper and lower classes do exactly the same thing - steal wealth from the middle class. In fact, a big part of lower classes are so moronic, they actually think middle class is the upper class.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Wealth doesn't exist without labor. Poor people make up the majority of the labor pool.
          They aren't stealing so much as taking back their fair share of the profits they earned for everyone. If we had socialism, there wouldn't be any poor.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >They aren't stealing so much as taking back their fair share of the profits
            Taking from the middle class is taking THEIR share. It'd be taking from the rich that would be internally consistent with what you just put forward

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Middle class is rich though.
              If you work for a wage, chances are extremely good that you are working class.

  13. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    the reason is an uncompetent resentful woman with a giant ego and a folders full of nasty shits done by the Hollywood higher up.

  14. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, the vast majority of women are simply moronic.

  15. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >on purpose
    No, that implies they care. They don't. They just correctly assumed they could milk it for lots more money.

  16. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Surprised there aren't as many shills ITT.

  17. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Her sole reason making the Sequels was to butcher Luke (who is now no more than a cautionary tale) and let female character take his place

  18. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Within weeks of finalizing the deal with Lucas, they said they were going to shitcan all the original SW characters.

  19. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    They wanted to ruin Luke Skywalker and replace him with a women, on purpose, the ruining of Skywalker is on purpose. They weren’t trying to ruin Star Wars persay.
    They are also just really fricking bad at sci-fi
    They think you can just hire off the shelf Hollywood directors for your sci-fi, you can’t, you need someone with a little tism in them, but now too much, someone who has experience with creature work blue collar artists, and has the right passion for the work.
    JJ and the other meme directors they hired look good on paper but they treat sci-fi like just another project, they lack that certain sparkle and drive for the style to get it done.

  20. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Arrogance and stupidity.

  21. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why did you cut out the left girl’s big breasts?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I got it from google.

  22. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nahh … as long as they are willing to pour their assets into the sakes of creativity, they totally are going to be freaking Oooookay !!!!!!

  23. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Do you feel like Disney ruined Star Wars on purpose

    Yes, I thought this was obvious to anyone with half a brain.

    >and if so, why?

    Because of Blackrock's ESG bullshit. So, in other words, it's all just israelites israeliteing.

  24. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Look at what she did to Indy? That fricking trailer is atrocious. This just proves she wants to destroy everything ILM/Lucasfilm made because she’s a bitter c**t. If you think the state of SW isn’t her fault you’re fricking moronic and probably work for Disney.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I am forgotten……
      Remember when she forced us to awkwardly watch Dr. Grant have dinner with his ex-girlfriend’s new husband and family? This prostitute has been on a warpath for decades. You don’t even wanna know how humiliated Grant was in JWD, I didn’t think she could assassinate his character any more than she already did but I was wrong.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I didn't watch the last world...how bad did they treat him.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Holy shit, you made me look it up and she really produced that shit

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ellie wasn't his girlfriend.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      She wants to replace Indy Jones with Indy Joanna.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        kinda based if you think about

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Not if you're not into girls. I only watch movies and shows that have young and handsome main characters.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            i hope you dont seek to imply that you are one of those capeshitters

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >probably work for Disney.
      I just assume this is true anytime I see anyone do this.

  25. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    what again was that quote about not attributing to evil what can be perfectly explained by stupidity or some such?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, no this is all done with calculated political intent.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        ruining star wars as a brand is not intentional, political or otherwise

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Okay well that will be your little secret. What do you base this on? Did you miss the “FORCE IS FEMALE” shirt the executive producer is wearing in the OP………?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Bit of both. To get money, they use DEI/ESG. DEI/ESG breeds incompetence and ruins companies.

            if they have a political message, the last thing they want to do is destroy their platform

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              You’re just some shill running damage control for pedophile israelites who want you dead for free…. get a fricking life.
              Ever hear of the scorpion and the frog?
              And regardless Disney is a pillar of American culture too, or used to be, but they intentionally destroyed it and turned it into Trans Kids HQ.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Exactly. As the saying goes when in Rome… Sack the shit outta it and burn it to the ground. Not of the top executives at Disney want to either keep making good entertainment for the whole family OR make profits. They want to shit on Uncle Walt’s legacy instead. Disney as it is probably won’t be recognizable in a decade. It’s going down 4realz with help from KK herself.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >duuuuhhh there’s agjooully no political intent behind all the politics in their media chud *diddles a kid*

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              The thinking is that the platform can't be destroyed because it has functionally infinite money behind it and the legacy of it's cultural impact

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              They have enough money to make six disneys ad an unlimited number of streaming services/cable channels.
              There is a reason we did "Trust busting" back in the day, it was to avoid shit companies like Blackrock owning our government.
              But /misc/ gays would rather cry about non-existent socialism than attack the real enemy.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Bit of both. To get money, they use DEI/ESG. DEI/ESG breeds incompetence and ruins companies.

  26. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    i don't give a frick about stah wahs and never have.
    all the characters are just painfully american in the films to be some non-americans in a galaxy far far away

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Everyone is British besides Luke and Han.

  27. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    DEI/ESG money, guarnteed with government bailouts, is better than having to produce quality products and hoping the public likes them.

  28. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Only a moron could think it wasn't ruined on purpose.

  29. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think it's general incompetence and industrial incest and a sense of invincibility.

  30. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, why would they do that?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why would they turn Luke into a weirdo attempted nephew murderer and bum instead of selling cool Luke Skywalker toys to 35 year old virgins with disposable income?
      Their actions are incoherent and fly in the face of conventional wisdom or common sense. That's why we're trying to make sense of them

  31. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Has adding a bunch of woman and brown people ever made anything better?

  32. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because the "subversion of expectations" only ever went in one way. They spent an entire movie on the character assassination of Luke Skywalker while simultaneously doubling down on the Mary Sue aspects of Rey.
    Not to mention that incident where they interviewed some LucasFilm employee and they clearly had a poster of Luke with his face X'ed off in the background.

  33. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why did they do it, or why do I feel that way?

  34. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Do you feel like Disney ruined Star Wars on purpose
    no, i think it was unintentional.
    my completely baseless theory is that while working for spielberg and lucas as a "producer," none of her ideas were ever accepted or taken seriously. now that she's in complete control of lucasfilm, she wanted to prove that she's more than a glorified secretary by re-imagining star wars, indiana jones, and willow.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I just don't think the skills translated. There's a difference between producing individual movies and trying to run a studio dedicated almost entirely to a single IP. I don't think Lucas would have ever entrusted Lucasfilm to a "glorified secretary." It's possible for someone to be good at what they used to do and total shit at what they are currently doing.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I don't think Lucas would have ever entrusted Lucasfilm to a "glorified secretary."
        He sold it to Disney. He's not moronic. He knew what they were.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >He's not moronic
          Are you an angel

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            What's wrong with that line?

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Go to bed George.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nice deflection, nerd.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >No argument
                I accept your concession.
                He had a lot of bad lines but that neither makes him a moron, and it doesn't make every single line bad.
                That's a perfectly fine line for Anni's introduction to Padme; it paints him as naive, infatuated, and leads us into his world and hopes when he expands on how he listens to pilots from far away.
                Tell me why it's bad

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not seriously calling George Lucas a moron. I'm suggesting he's fallible. If you seriously think Lucas selecting an old creative partner and friend to run his company was part of a master 4D chess plan to destroy Lucasfilm (and worsen the lives of its hundreds of employees, many of whom he knows personally) and Disney--despite having taken lots of Disney stock--you should reexamine your reasoning. Sometimes people just frick up, or demonstrate bad judgment. He thought she was a great candidate for the job and he was wrong. That's all.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                He sold it to Disney and then in interviews immediatly following the announcement he was crying about how he sold it to "white slavers."

                You can pretend he's senile, or doesn't care, but you cannot pretend he didn't know what he was doing. Like he sold the company, and then went home and thought "I don't actually know anything about Disney.." Did a quick google. And then the next day booked interviews so he could whine about how evil Disney is. It just don't add up.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >He sold it to Disney and then in interviews immediatly following the announcement he was crying about how he sold it to "white slavers."
                Because he expected to have more creative influence than he did. That's the whole reason he bothered to sell Iger the sequel trilogy outline he wrote onto a mall food court napkin. It became very clear immediately that this would not be the case.

                Why he sold Lucasfilm and why he sold it to Disney is all pretty obvious stuff. You don't need to invoke conspiratorial tard-logic.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                What conspiratorial tard logic are you pretending I am invoking specifically?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                That he sold Lucasfilm to Disney and/or hired Kennedy to purposefully sink it.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Something I have never said and is not inferrable from my post. Where I did infact say:
                >You can pretend he's senile, or doesn't care, but you cannot pretend he didn't know what he was doing.
                I make no assertions about why he did what he did. Just that he either knew what kind of beast Disney was, or was being willfully ignorant of said fact.
                If you think he holds no contepmt for the fans after the reaction to the prequels then I direct you to him being photographed wearing a "han shot first" shirt while filming.
                I don't think he did it to kill Star Wars or Lucasfilm. I think he did it to wipe his hands of the fans who turned on him. I think he sold to Disney specifically to spite them. I believe he thought Disney would make safe and kiddy star wars, which is what everyone assumed at the time.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I think he did it to wipe his hands of the fans who turned on him.
                I think you are mostly wrong. Prequel hate was at its zenith when he decided to keep on trucking with The Clone Wars. The reception to the prequels didn't stop him from pursuing a live action show at that time, either. His decision to sell had more to do with the overall state of Lucasfilm being on the decline. Lucas recognized he couldn't do this shit forever (and didn't have any desire to) but also didn't want to leave Lucasfilm high and dry, so he sold it to a company he already had a good working relationship with and that he believed had handled other acquisitions well (Pixar). He even worked Kennedy in as his successor (something Disney didn't even know he was going to do, IIRC). I really don't think he was trying to spite anybody. He wouldn't have bothered with his own sequel treatments or gotten so upset when it was clear they weren't going to use them if he was.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >. If you seriously think Lucas selecting an old creative partner and friend to run his company was part of a master 4D chess plan to destroy Lucasfilm
                What the frick are you talking about? When did I say anything vaguely resembling that?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                See

                >I don't think Lucas would have ever entrusted Lucasfilm to a "glorified secretary."
                He sold it to Disney. He's not moronic. He knew what they were.

                That's what this about.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                In no way does that post imply some intentional conspiracy to destroy Lucasfilms by Lucas

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why else would he hire Kennedy if he didn't think she would do a good job?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                So it's entirely disconnected and not at all related to that wha post said. Got it

  35. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I thought it was a plot to crash Disney stock for a takeover. I didn't think there was a way that all those studio execs would allow KK to make those movies without a plan and without someone with story sense to veto all those stupid ideas. If it wasn't intentional then it was gross mismanagement and the shareholders should be calling for heads to roll. It was their money to burn - 4billion on anti-fan fiction. Who knows why? No actual fan considers any of it to be canon.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think it was just genuinely hubris and complacency. They thought it'd print money regardless of what they did with it as long as it had lasers and 'splosions and advertising.
      And since people in media live in perpetual fear and paranoia like a communist snitch office the USSR, nobody questions it and nobody really believes the behemoth can fail. Surely somebody will right the ship

  36. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, I don't think it was on purpose. They jsut figured they would for some reason retain the base audience and could also attract women and gays too. Typical hubris.

  37. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine for a moment being this b***h:

    -year after year being the one serving coffee to the israelites
    -any idea that comes out of your mind is met with laughter and maybe a spank "when we need more coffee or stupid ideas we will call you sweet cheeks"
    -only reason you don't get fired is because you know your boss dark secrets
    -the resentment grows bigger every year
    -finally the big fat nerd sells his company and you get the shot of your life
    -"Now I will show these mysoginists what a strong competent woman can do!"
    -your ideas make the IPs at your charge basically radioactive
    -the sycophants you brought along and uses t-shirts "The force is female" reminds you when you were only the coffee girl
    -it takes a couple of big fat nerds to put the franchise on life support
    -you will not be the b***h of a big fat nerd again
    -better burn it to the ground

    this b***h must have some sort of Order 66 ready

  38. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's demoralization.
    You have no heroes.
    You have no idols.
    They are all evil or pathetic.
    Everything you naturally admire as male is wrong.
    Men admire other men. Men go towards masculinity.
    Females can't do this and instead fear the younger more beautiful female. Remember snow white: who's the fairest of them all. That's what bothers them the most. Their own mortality represented by them aging and a more beautiful younger female appearing.
    Men grow old but have the feeling of helping younger men as a mentor to them. The truth is men experience life in a larger range than women do.

  39. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    In their attempt to push the female roster of characters, they nearly always made their male counterparts look foolish or moronic in some manner. This is sort of a normal thing in media and advertising too, like the bumbling dad who leaves their kid in a hot car or on a sushi belt and shit like that.
    It's all just too much now, it's fricking everywhere.

  40. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    why are you depriving me of BOOBA

  41. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nah, it was plain incompetence.

  42. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >the force is female
    ask them to define "female"

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      BOOM *mic drop* GOT ‘EM!

  43. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It was George who decided that Kathleen took over.

  44. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Star Wars is a multigenerational demoralization psyop

  45. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    They do not know what the frick to do with the IP

  46. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, Disney's purchase of Star Wars turned into a spectacular failure for the same reason that the Russian invasion of Ukraine did.

    A bunch of half-brained decisions made by the people at the very top who are likely almost totally disconnected from reality due to a corporate culture of ass-kissing, never receiving anything resembling a reality check, and when they finally do, they fall into the "zero sum game" trap and proceed to double down out of fear of being perceived as weak.

    It's not so much "I want to ruin Star Wars for da ebil chuds" as it is "I've never been told 'no' in my life".

    If events since February, 2022 have demonstrated anything, it's that the absolute worst thing leadership can do is start engaging in systemic intellectual dishonesty

  47. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    They probably thought women would be interested in what they were making, Kathleen's thought process was "I'm a woman, and I like what I'm doing"

  48. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    it was 100% fully intentional. there's literally no fricking way you can look at all the steps taken from when they bought the brand rights to when they finished the trilogy to now and think it was simply a series of poor decisions
    >buy star wars for $4b
    >state soon after that the expanded universe is fake and gay, basically telling hardcore fans to get fricked
    >new trilogy planned with no overarching story or plot, just hands it over to different people and let them run with it, guaranteeing it to be incoherent
    >give the first one to captain magic box to set up a bunch of bullshit that never gets explained
    >give the second one to a guy who gets off on fricking with people's expectations
    >give it back to the first guy for the finale even though actually finishing shit is his greatest weakness
    >first movie completely undoes the victory of ROTJ because the empire is still around but changed its name
    >han solo is now a deadbeat absentee father who gets murdered as thanks for trying to make amends
    >luke abandons his friends after he tries killing his nephew because he got a bad vibe and dies alone on an ocean planet
    >somehow sheev has returned, nullifying vader's redemption
    >leia dies from ???? before she can see the rebellion's victory
    >these were all perfectly fine with disney
    >trilogy ends with a bad taste in everyone's mouth, fully transition to disney + shows
    >mandolorian tv show ends up scratching the itch for some fans
    >frick that up to by making him the sidekick in his own show and making it generally boring
    >make their parks fully sequel trilogy based because the past is dead
    >announce new movie featuring rey doing shit that luke did in the eu to really drive home that this is the only star wars and WILL frick it up how they see fit
    they couldn't even be bothered to have a decent soundtrack, because that would be a redeeming feature. they WANTED total star wars death

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      the rose/finn kiss complimented with the explosion in the background of the base they were meant to be fighting to protect confirmed to me every frick up was entirely intentional and borderline genius

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I understand how you would wind up coming to that conclusion but I honestly think you're probably overthinking it.

      The invasion of Ukraine has been nothing short of a historic calamity for the Russian Federation but I wouldn't go around saying that it was intentional on the part of Vladimir Putin and his cabinet either.

      I really do think the failures of Disney, Lucasfilm, and Russia come down to the same root cause. Breeding a culture where

      >the higher-ups won't take "no" for an answer
      >no one is willing to tell them "no"
      >intellectual dishonesty has been actively encouraged to the point of becoming an integral part of the system to function
      >the accumulation of such enormous resources is taken as an excuse to "wing it" when plans go awry
      >anyone who attempts to rock the boat and impede on the aforementioned swiftly finds themselves without a job, or in the Russian context, dead

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      soon after that the expanded universe is fake and gay, basically telling hardcore fans to get fricked
      Most hardcore fans already jumped ship when they did a smaller version of the EU purge in 2008. I think that was done intentionally, too.

  49. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, they just overestimated the number of redditors who would drink the koolaid.

  50. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Star Wars is a medium to sell toya such as light saber or legos etc. It is a success as long as it is doing that

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      But it didn't do that. The toys didn't sell.
      its the fricking video games that are keeping it alive, ironic that the FRICKING WHITE MALE in Jedi Outcast/Survivor is keeping this shit afloat.

  51. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    No. As Globohomosexual made everything faker and gayer, it was only natural that Star Wars would follow suit. All movies are shit for the same reason. Not just SW.

  52. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I couldn't imagine liking star wars in tyool 2023, like it actually makes me question someone's sanity if they do

  53. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    god kathleen would be frickable if she wasn't a complete moron who ruined one of the most renown franchises ever

    like, imagine if she stuck to george's vision. she'd be one of the most fapped-over women on the internet

  54. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Our societies are being ruined by incompetent white women with huge egos that everybody is terrified of saying "no" to

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah White women are in charge kek. The reign of Karen has dawned. Lookout israelites, a new ruling class is here!

  55. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    On purpose? No. But hiring based on DEI and not merit or experience is guaranteed to ruin your established IPs.

  56. 10 months ago
    CreepyThinMan

    Kuntleen deliberately fricked up everything because she's an old woman bitter that she didn't get more credit for Spielberg and Lucas' work. Also, if a woman had to work to achieve success she'll always resent that she had to earn it and become a powertripping b***h!!! FACT!!!

  57. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    They banned skilled and experienced people from industry (mostly white and male) and replaced them with unskilled diversity hires in the name of equality.

  58. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The force is homosexualry. The whole purpose of western media is to reduce birthrate by turning almost everyone into a homosexual. Yes its on purpose.

  59. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    As a long time investor, its funny when Disney purchased Lucas it was to attract boys. Historically, they are the princess company. So they buy lucas and then turn the heroes to new princesses. Stupid.

  60. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. Because israelite demoralization is death by 1000 cuts. And if you can take the biggest and best cultural works and art, ruin them one after another, you will achieve demoralization.
    >it costs a few bucks
    Indeed, monopoly money to begin with, that you pay for yourself.
    Hate whites, destroy what whites love. Simple. Which is why most of the stuff today is shit.

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