/misc/ reacts exactly like that if the cast is black, in fact worse, since at least the blacks don't act like not seeing one of their own in a movie is literal genocide
you refuse to watch a movie without your hallowed special snowflake oppressed victim race, I refuse to watch a movie with you people specifically because I know it's going to be shit, we are not the same
just highlights the biological incapability of the Black to have the level of consciousness required for empathy, which on the other side of the coin is the same reason for their inherent narcicism.
see the murder of Ee Li,, when being questioned about why the one who beat her to death didn't call an ambulance, he replied that he didn't care because he didn't know her personally.
It's the same answer as is often given by these types, and isn't only a coincidence.
have you actually read this to the end? seems totally reasonable. white people can make white people movies about nothing but white people and blacks can just not watch them. what's the issue?
>white people can make white people movies about nothing but white people and blacks can just not watch them. what's the issue?
Now have a white guy make that same exact post but about films that only have blacks in them, and watch the bitching and cries of racism. THAT is the issue, the double standard.
I'm sure if you invert the races in a social media post people would also fall over themselves to agree with it as they schlick over what good people they are.
so you're not actually upset at the post, you're upset at imaginary replies to an imaginary different post that says the opposite thing? that's a lot of mental legwork just to make yourself angry, no?
i mean the picture is obviously meant as ragebait but as you both demonstrated you have to do a lot of mental gymnastics to even get to the rage because the opinion in the image is 100% reasonable. what did i say that wasn't accurate? or perhaps the actual reason it works as ragebait is that people won't even read it, they'll just see "black" and start shaking, in which case your explanations are purposefully misleading.
>you have to do a lot of mental gymnastics to even get to the rage
lol, why does every troll have to insert some upset emotion that isn't there. >the opinion in the image is 100% reasonable.
Never said it wasn't. Rest of your post is just baiting bullshit. Either you can admit there's an obvious double standard with the reverse case or you can just try to bait away from this fact.
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Anonymous
>make retarded post >tell anyone replying that they're upset >use any further reply regardless of its content as proof they're upset >instant victory >return to 10
2 weeks ago
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>lol, why does every troll have to insert some upset emotion that isn't there.
the purpose of posting some black guy's twitter posts on Cinemaphile is to elicit anger. this is called ragebait. i don't know how to talk to you if you won't admit this, it's like refusing to admit water's wet. what motivates you to whine about "double standards" or whatever, joy? happiness? give me a break.
>Either you can admit there's an obvious double standard with the reverse case or you can just try to bait away from this fact.
go find this danderson guy on twitter and ask him if he's okay with you not watching moonlight because you don't care about black people movies. if he gives you shit, okay, there's something to talk about. otherwise you're sitting there complaining about an imaginary interaction with a guy you don't know, which is deranged. I BET IF I TOLD THIS GUY THE SAME THING HE SAID BUT INVERTED HE WOULD BE MAD AT ME. THIS IS A HUGE PROBLEM GUYS, STOP TRYING TO DISTRACT ME FROM THE HUGE PROBLEM THIS HYPOTHETICAL CONVERSATION POSES FOR ME
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>this is called ragebait. >any reply is raging because I said so
The fact you had to add some all caps should-be-greentext "quote" gives it away, you know. You're trying way too hard.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
okay, i believe you. you are experiencing no anger at all, you are a sea of tranquility, you are merely very calmly concerned about an imaginary conversation you hypothetically could have with some guy on twitter but didn't. what's the purpose of this?
>what motivates you to "ragebait", joy? happiness? give me a break.
How many hours per day do you spend "ragebaiting" people on Cinemaphile on average, out of curiosity?
exactly zero. i have never posted a twitter screencap in my life.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>what's the purpose of this?
I don't know what the purpose of this conversation about my opinion that has nothing to do with the opinion expressed is. Other than you desperately trying to bait. Have another (You).
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
i was just trying to understand if people were reacting to op's picture before or after reading it to the end. then you derailed the conversation with some bullshit whining about "what if the situation was reversed" and i still don't know.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>you derailed the conversation >in a thread you've already said is "ragebait" >with replies that scream "ragebait" repeatedly telling me how "upset" I am and trying to do some deep dive into the psychology of why I even replied to the thread at all to begin with
I'm bored, like most people on this board. Why are YOU ITT?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>what motivates you to "ragebait", joy? happiness? give me a break.
How many hours per day do you spend "ragebaiting" people on Cinemaphile on average, out of curiosity?
I find the image more laughable than ragebait. "There's no one exactly like me" is a pretty pathetic and shallow reason for someone to relentlessly cry over and totally reject otherwise very good works of art.
>b-but double standards!!!!!!
Your very own belief is that races and genders are different. Different people react differently to different things. Get over it. You're not appreciated on twatter when you say you don't wanna see Black Panther? Maybe you'll consider extending that way not watching black peepo movies mindset and stop going to twatter too?
What movies do you wanna talk about?
Well, I know the answer is black people, feminist and gay movies, but you might not realize it. You love these movies and love ranting about them and self-victimizing on fucking twatter.
Which movies? Seriously, which ones? The only ones you can talk about that have literally no white people are the old blaxsploitation films and that's because they probably couldn't afford any in the rarest cases of that genre.
Why are you pretending to be unaware that if white people dont watch black panther it's because they're racist?
Same as when men didnt watch ghostbusters2016, the only possible explanation is sexism.
I'm sure if you invert the races in a social media post people would also fall over themselves to agree with it as they schlick over what good people they are.
>the entire continent of africa with its 30.000.000 square kms has more buying power than the 40.000 suqare kms of barely inhabitable swamp the prussians couldnt be bothered to conquer, but only barely
I don't recall Burton ever saying his world was "perfect" -- whichever world that is.
It doesn't sound reasonable, though. He's complaining a fictional world doesn't contain X person -- "not even have any". So? It doesn't have any of Y or Z characters, either. He's just another narcissist who HAS to see himself in everything.
Because that is not reality. You are not allowed to make White people movies about nothing but White people anymore.
Whereas making the same thing but for any other race is okay to do.
Pretty much. Especially considering how old Tim Burton is, it's not like someone born in half of the US now being surrounded by nogs, mutts, and Hispanics everywhere.
Why is it that seemingly only black people are the ones who get like this? If I watch Blade and see him killing vampires and being cool, I don't think to myself "Man, I don't know how to relate to this guy because I'm white." I think, "Oh shit, Blade just sliced that motherfucker in two! What a cool dude he is."
>*baiting intensifies*
I'm so glad my brain isn't fucked up to the point that this kind of empty baiting, where you have to constantly tell them how "upset" they are, isn't the only way I can get dopamine.
I find it hard to believe that Tim Burton would get away with such a thing in current year. I haven't seen Wednesday but I bet my life savings it does have obligatory nogs in it.
There is a sheboon in the first five minutes of that netflix show that /misc/ was shilling that he directed? I distinctly remember because I stopped watching it after I saw her.
I honestly don't understand how you Americans can complain so much. POC are not over-represented in your movies. A significant number of Americans are black or some other non-white ethnicity and that is represented pretty accurately in the media I feel. Meanwhile here in Britain, black people only make up 4% of the population and yet are represented in the media tenfold.
Nope. morons are only 13% of the population, they are extremely over represented, as are garden gnomes. Literally every race is underrepresented except for morons and garden gnomes. That’s why if the concern is about representation and inclusivity then we have every right to complain about overrepresented people when we ourselves are underrepresented.
Blacks in America are still like 15% of the population and most of Burton's stories are set in places where there are no blacks. >Blacks are not represented
He made the black guy be the protagonist's best friend in Big Fish and Mars Attack Jim Brown is badass.
>when you can't elicit actual "rage" everyone can plainly see so you have to pretend and repeatedly tell them they're raging trying to wish their rage into existence
Blacks really don't understand why goth fashion will never ork for them. You literally need to have pale skin to act as a contrast, or to look corpselike. Best you can do as a black person is Baron Samedi, but that's more voodoo than goth and wouldn't fit the victorian aesthetic.
Joel Schumacher recast Harvey to be white. Burton's Robin was also planned to be black for the third movie but when JoJo took over he quickly scrapped that idea and casted a white Robin.
White people simply are the best fit for Burton's stuffy, gothic, gloomy, Bongish aesthetic. Similarly White people would look out of place in a setting inspired by feudal Japan. Imagine a bunch of pajeets in a Martin Scorsese film. Sassy loud blacks literally do not belong in something like Sweeny Todd, Edward Scissorhands or Sleepy Hollow. It barely matters because Burton has made one or two actual good movies.
This social justice stuff is all just petty jealous at the end of the day.
>HUGE FAN >got an ick very quick cause no brothers in his movies >HUGE FAN BTW
Very believable and authentic. Totally not Nightmare on Christmas once year energy.
The video itself was very boring, a couple of "I feel statements" that were poorly supported. So I suppose it self-selects for an audience lacking reason.
I agree. We definitely need more White people writing blacks. Like that one guy who wrote that Miles Morales as Thor comics that the black community loved so much.
hell yeah bro sheeit you know who da blackest mf i seen in his films? batman lmao
Now I do
Projection
/misc/ reacts exactly like that if the cast is black, in fact worse, since at least the blacks don't act like not seeing one of their own in a movie is literal genocide
cool story bro
this would be better without the :^) tier message.
just post another drawing as a response.
Blacks are 13% of the country. Imagine if 50% of movies randomly started having vietnamese stars.
bullshit we love Black media like Boys in the Hood and San Andreas we just hate morons being shoehorned into white media by communists who hate beauty
you refuse to watch a movie without your hallowed special snowflake oppressed victim race, I refuse to watch a movie with you people specifically because I know it's going to be shit, we are not the same
>/misc/ reacts exactly like that if the cast is black
because it's political poison that naturally makes the entire work insincere you fucking ape
Kek, women acted the same way about Ghostbusters 2016
>FINALLY a Ghostbusters movie I can relate to
just highlights the biological incapability of the Black to have the level of consciousness required for empathy, which on the other side of the coin is the same reason for their inherent narcicism.
see the murder of Ee Li,, when being questioned about why the one who beat her to death didn't call an ambulance, he replied that he didn't care because he didn't know her personally.
It's the same answer as is often given by these types, and isn't only a coincidence.
That whole breakfast hypothetical makes so much sense now...
have you actually read this to the end? seems totally reasonable. white people can make white people movies about nothing but white people and blacks can just not watch them. what's the issue?
>white people can make white people movies about nothing but white people and blacks can just not watch them. what's the issue?
Now have a white guy make that same exact post but about films that only have blacks in them, and watch the bitching and cries of racism. THAT is the issue, the double standard.
so you're not actually upset at the post, you're upset at imaginary replies to an imaginary different post that says the opposite thing? that's a lot of mental legwork just to make yourself angry, no?
>upset
>angry
>"imaginary"
Here's your (You)
does it feel empty
it should
i mean the picture is obviously meant as ragebait but as you both demonstrated you have to do a lot of mental gymnastics to even get to the rage because the opinion in the image is 100% reasonable. what did i say that wasn't accurate? or perhaps the actual reason it works as ragebait is that people won't even read it, they'll just see "black" and start shaking, in which case your explanations are purposefully misleading.
>you have to do a lot of mental gymnastics to even get to the rage
lol, why does every troll have to insert some upset emotion that isn't there.
>the opinion in the image is 100% reasonable.
Never said it wasn't. Rest of your post is just baiting bullshit. Either you can admit there's an obvious double standard with the reverse case or you can just try to bait away from this fact.
>make retarded post
>tell anyone replying that they're upset
>use any further reply regardless of its content as proof they're upset
>instant victory
>return to 10
>lol, why does every troll have to insert some upset emotion that isn't there.
the purpose of posting some black guy's twitter posts on Cinemaphile is to elicit anger. this is called ragebait. i don't know how to talk to you if you won't admit this, it's like refusing to admit water's wet. what motivates you to whine about "double standards" or whatever, joy? happiness? give me a break.
>Either you can admit there's an obvious double standard with the reverse case or you can just try to bait away from this fact.
go find this danderson guy on twitter and ask him if he's okay with you not watching moonlight because you don't care about black people movies. if he gives you shit, okay, there's something to talk about. otherwise you're sitting there complaining about an imaginary interaction with a guy you don't know, which is deranged. I BET IF I TOLD THIS GUY THE SAME THING HE SAID BUT INVERTED HE WOULD BE MAD AT ME. THIS IS A HUGE PROBLEM GUYS, STOP TRYING TO DISTRACT ME FROM THE HUGE PROBLEM THIS HYPOTHETICAL CONVERSATION POSES FOR ME
>this is called ragebait.
>any reply is raging because I said so
The fact you had to add some all caps should-be-greentext "quote" gives it away, you know. You're trying way too hard.
okay, i believe you. you are experiencing no anger at all, you are a sea of tranquility, you are merely very calmly concerned about an imaginary conversation you hypothetically could have with some guy on twitter but didn't. what's the purpose of this?
exactly zero. i have never posted a twitter screencap in my life.
>what's the purpose of this?
I don't know what the purpose of this conversation about my opinion that has nothing to do with the opinion expressed is. Other than you desperately trying to bait. Have another (You).
i was just trying to understand if people were reacting to op's picture before or after reading it to the end. then you derailed the conversation with some bullshit whining about "what if the situation was reversed" and i still don't know.
>you derailed the conversation
>in a thread you've already said is "ragebait"
>with replies that scream "ragebait" repeatedly telling me how "upset" I am and trying to do some deep dive into the psychology of why I even replied to the thread at all to begin with
I'm bored, like most people on this board. Why are YOU ITT?
>what motivates you to "ragebait", joy? happiness? give me a break.
How many hours per day do you spend "ragebaiting" people on Cinemaphile on average, out of curiosity?
>post funny pic
>someone asks what the issue is
>explain what he pretends not to understand
>lol u mad bro?
nah
I find the image more laughable than ragebait. "There's no one exactly like me" is a pretty pathetic and shallow reason for someone to relentlessly cry over and totally reject otherwise very good works of art.
>b-but double standards!!!!!!
Your very own belief is that races and genders are different. Different people react differently to different things. Get over it. You're not appreciated on twatter when you say you don't wanna see Black Panther? Maybe you'll consider extending that way not watching black peepo movies mindset and stop going to twatter too?
What movies do you wanna talk about?
Well, I know the answer is black people, feminist and gay movies, but you might not realize it. You love these movies and love ranting about them and self-victimizing on fucking twatter.
>You're not appreciated on twatter
>stop going to twatter
>on fucking twatter.
Who are you even talking to.
Which movies? Seriously, which ones? The only ones you can talk about that have literally no white people are the old blaxsploitation films and that's because they probably couldn't afford any in the rarest cases of that genre.
Why are you pretending to be unaware that if white people dont watch black panther it's because they're racist?
Same as when men didnt watch ghostbusters2016, the only possible explanation is sexism.
Most movies in America should have white people, for the same reason that most south African movies would have blacks.
I mostly only watch movies where blacks are either maids or porters.
avoid seeing them completely if possible, it will allow your brain to feel clean for once.
I'm sure if you invert the races in a social media post people would also fall over themselves to agree with it as they schlick over what good people they are.
>what's the issue?
>the entire continent of africa with its 30.000.000 square kms has more buying power than the 40.000 suqare kms of barely inhabitable swamp the prussians couldnt be bothered to conquer, but only barely
>african american population
Nice reading comprehension, whatever shade of nonwhite you are.
I don't recall Burton ever saying his world was "perfect" -- whichever world that is.
It doesn't sound reasonable, though. He's complaining a fictional world doesn't contain X person -- "not even have any". So? It doesn't have any of Y or Z characters, either. He's just another narcissist who HAS to see himself in everything.
Because that is not reality. You are not allowed to make White people movies about nothing but White people anymore.
Whereas making the same thing but for any other race is okay to do.
Billy Dee Williams played Harvey Dent in his Batman films.
Directors should make films about things they know, otherwise it's disingenuous
Pretty much. Especially considering how old Tim Burton is, it's not like someone born in half of the US now being surrounded by nogs, mutts, and Hispanics everywhere.
Would someone not watch Korean films just because there aren't any white people in it?
Nice false equivalence
wrong
>t-that doesn't count
This entire site started because a white guy liked Naruto.
Harvey Dent
>the second half of this comment
Man, if only everyone else had the same mindset we could go back to having entertainment that isn't mostly blacks.
An OP that posts a screenshot of text should be banned. Especially xitter
I saw it on youtube:
Why is it that seemingly only black people are the ones who get like this? If I watch Blade and see him killing vampires and being cool, I don't think to myself "Man, I don't know how to relate to this guy because I'm white." I think, "Oh shit, Blade just sliced that motherfucker in two! What a cool dude he is."
Blacks aren't cucks like you are.
>*baiting intensifies*
I'm so glad my brain isn't fucked up to the point that this kind of empty baiting, where you have to constantly tell them how "upset" they are, isn't the only way I can get dopamine.
How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
I find it hard to believe that Tim Burton would get away with such a thing in current year. I haven't seen Wednesday but I bet my life savings it does have obligatory nogs in it.
It does
There is a sheboon in the first five minutes of that netflix show that /misc/ was shilling that he directed? I distinctly remember because I stopped watching it after I saw her.
I honestly don't understand how you Americans can complain so much. POC are not over-represented in your movies. A significant number of Americans are black or some other non-white ethnicity and that is represented pretty accurately in the media I feel. Meanwhile here in Britain, black people only make up 4% of the population and yet are represented in the media tenfold.
black people are also only about 13% of the US. You pretty much proved yourself wrong.
Exceprt they are
Nope. morons are only 13% of the population, they are extremely over represented, as are garden gnomes. Literally every race is underrepresented except for morons and garden gnomes. That’s why if the concern is about representation and inclusivity then we have every right to complain about overrepresented people when we ourselves are underrepresented.
kek no they are way overrepresented.
the nation is like half indian and mexican at this point. IDK why the media is so obsessed with blacks.
my small town was unironically like 90% white 5-6 years ago. now half the people who come into my work don't even speak english
Lol good bait. Pieces of shit and outdated farm equipment don't belong adorning TV screens unless it's to fix them
>i m not saying a black person has to star in every film
>he can make art however he wants
nig will think these are the takeaways from his rant
>I'm a huge "fan" of thing
>now here are the following reasons why i hate thing
Blacks in America are still like 15% of the population and most of Burton's stories are set in places where there are no blacks.
>Blacks are not represented
He made the black guy be the protagonist's best friend in Big Fish and Mars Attack Jim Brown is badass.
Based black man understanding what it really means when whitey excludes you from stories and such.
Everyone should know that when whites do this they want to erase you fictionally and literally.
>when you can't elicit actual "rage" everyone can plainly see so you have to pretend and repeatedly tell them they're raging trying to wish their rage into existence
Blacks really don't understand why goth fashion will never ork for them. You literally need to have pale skin to act as a contrast, or to look corpselike. Best you can do as a black person is Baron Samedi, but that's more voodoo than goth and wouldn't fit the victorian aesthetic.
Ethnic narcissism is hilarious
>but as a Black person
Mars Attacks? Really? Jesus Christ.
Is there any proof to this? Or is it just some schizo making shit up again for likes?
Joel Schumacher recast Harvey to be white. Burton's Robin was also planned to be black for the third movie but when JoJo took over he quickly scrapped that idea and casted a white Robin.
>Tim Burton don’t cast blaccpeepo in he movies
Didn’t he do Planet of the Apes a few years ago, though?
Decades ago.
>White people merely existing makes PEE OH SEE feel bad about themselves part 47272921
White people simply are the best fit for Burton's stuffy, gothic, gloomy, Bongish aesthetic. Similarly White people would look out of place in a setting inspired by feudal Japan. Imagine a bunch of pajeets in a Martin Scorsese film. Sassy loud blacks literally do not belong in something like Sweeny Todd, Edward Scissorhands or Sleepy Hollow. It barely matters because Burton has made one or two actual good movies.
This social justice stuff is all just petty jealous at the end of the day.
>jealousy
envy but same diff
Best term is Ressentimement
>It barely matters because Burton has made one or two actual good movies.
These are Sweeny Todd and Mars Attacks.
Nightmare and Corpse Bride were Selick.
Henry Selick did not direct Corpse Bride, and regardless NBC wouldn’t exist without Burton’s concept
And Mars Attacks over Beetlejuice? Really?
Why did he do this?
>HUGE FAN
>got an ick very quick cause no brothers in his movies
>HUGE FAN BTW
Very believable and authentic. Totally not Nightmare on Christmas once year energy.
How the fuck did this get 23k likes?
The video itself was very boring, a couple of "I feel statements" that were poorly supported. So I suppose it self-selects for an audience lacking reason.
Jesus Christ, the projection in that pic
/misc/ - grown ass men getting angry about Disney movies and twitter screencaps
Tim Burton wrote a charachter so black that he stole the concept of Christmas.
Big Fish was his last good film
So he was a huge fan and then one day randomly decided to become offended because there are no token black characters?
Seems fake.
I agree. We definitely need more White people writing blacks. Like that one guy who wrote that Miles Morales as Thor comics that the black community loved so much.