Do you think they can recover from these Phase 4 disasters?

Do you think they can recover from these Phase 4 disasters?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The movies are still making money and getting mostly positive reviews. Thor was a disappointment and Eternals didn't resonate (despite actually being a decent movie that tried something different). People are exaggerating the state of the MCU right now. The fact is that they just finished their first big arc now we're back to setting up the next big threats.

    Also, I think there are a lot of loud idiots who wanted to see the MCU finished after Endgame or critics are tired of feeling like they have to keep up with story lines over several different franchises.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >The movies are still making money and getting mostly positive reviews.
      Not anymore. It's an uphill battle. They have to keep introducing crossover gimmicks in order to achieve a comparable result to the past. Like a drug addict who takes a bigger dose to achieve a lesser high

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >still making money
      A dollar profit is still making money. The real question execs and share holders ask is how much money could have been made by investing these huge budgets elsewhere. In Phase 3 the budgets justified themselves, but they proceeded into 4 with the same expectations, and there's no denying they're seeing significantly smaller numbers than they wanted.
      The MCU isn't finished obviously, but expect changes. Either smaller budgets or fewer movies (probably both).
      >The fact is that they just finished their first big arc now we're back to setting up the next big threats.
      Wandavision set up the Skrull, but for the most part what each individual Phase 4 property has set up has been its next sequel. It's nothing like the way that Phase 1 was setting up Thanos.

      I agree about Eternals for the record. The only Phase 4 movie that I found sort of interesting, even though it was brought down by quips and bad acting.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Eternals was brought down by being a series of stories better suited to a series. The movie could never figure out what it wanted to be

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >It's nothing like the way that Phase 1 was setting up Thanos.
        Thanos was a last minute inclusion while Avengers was being made. The main goal of phase 1 was literally just to build to having everyone meet in Avengers and try to make the movies feel like they were all in the same world. This is also why you've got the Infinity Gauntlet in Thor, which had to be retconned as a fake in Thor Ragnarok.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Lol you aren't thinking like a suit. Marvel is supposed to be the biggest game in town. They're not going to be happy having their big summer blockbuster make less than it's previous films and losing to the fricking Minions

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Is this what James Gunn got all prissy over?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Supposedly Gunn was going to develop F4 and other space-based MCU along with Thor+GotG, but getting fired over tweeting hundreds of cp jokes derailed the MCU. Phase 4 is like what happens during a writer's strike (except the writer was briefly fired)

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        From what I've heard, pedo Gunn will now be in charge of up to four DC comics shows.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Marvel has plenty of time and material to course correct, but phase 4's a flop

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Who's the dude on the right? Looks familiar.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No, it's the beginning of the end. Capeshit's time is up

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It’s on the decline but it probably won’t be truly dead for another 10 years at least. They know how to drag this shit out as long as possible

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      it could be the franchise with the most beautiful and hot actresses but one day they brought taika waititi

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        the Black personisraelite will only have mid tier girls because he himself cant pull real hotties

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        why is she half naked

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          She could say the same about your clothes

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Come on anon, you know what happens to redheads when they adapt comics to film...

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    They should have just known to call it after Endgame.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Grace gave the wrong box office numbers

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      She corrected herself in the comments

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Marvel has gone to shit because it became a content generation machine. I'd guess disney expects this to work as long as they have occasional spiderman-style successes.
    MCU #28(thor l&t) will probably get to around 700 million, with a 250 budget+ maybe 200 marketing. not great on paper, but will also help sell disney+ and frankly I don't believe the 250, that's just gravy going into various corporate and production pockets.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    grace sisters not like this

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >James Pedo Gunn
      >after Suicide Flop

      ...not exactly the right pedo to be listening to on much of any subject, especially law, lawsuits, or successful movies.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Ahahaha butthurt pedo

        But she's right about this one

        cope

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Yes but that video wasn't a scoop. It was her saying Thor 4 had the biggest drop of any mcu movie and MS marvel and the lowest viewer ship of any mcu show, it was an objectively true statement not a rumor or bullshit.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Ahahaha butthurt pedo

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      But she's right about this one

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Context of this?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Hes butthurt he got kicked out Disney/Marvel for being a public pedo

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          That's not the context of the tweet you worthless moron. Next time you reply to me, have something useful you dumb Black person

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            The context is youre a useless Black person homosexual and i hope this enlightened your room temperature IQ (celsius) mind

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >suddenly anon is all about cancel culture and taking jokes dead seriously once it suits him

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I dont give a shit i just want to teard down smug c**ts who think they are hot shit

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      James Gunn...
      FRICK OFF YOU FRICKING homosexual

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        right looks moronic. get over it

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          t.james.gay

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Besides Spider-Man phase 4 should have been introducing the X—Men. That’s the only thing people care about

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      > X-gay claims X-Men is all people care about.

      Quelle surprise.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Spider man and XMen are the only characters people give a shit about . Dr strange made 900 million JUST because the trailer HINTED that the XMen might appear

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Most people do not care about the x men. Fox drove the franchise into the ground. There's a reason the mcu is letting as much time as possible go by before rebooting them.
          Nobody went to see dr strange for a minute of Patrick Stewart. They thought that might mean there's be more cameos and were disappointed when that was actually the biggest one.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      you know it won't be Xmen

      it'll be mixing inhumans & Xmen as .... Xhumans

      screencap this

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    blockbuster movies are just money-laundering schemes, even if they lose money ~~*they*~~ still make money.

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I hope DC takes advantage of these MCU flops to finally catch up to Marvel.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      DC is dead, they will never recover, once the MCU dies completely it's officially over for everyone except Spiderman and The Joker

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Ironically, they would be in a better position if they stuck to their cartoons and didn't try to chase marvel in live action.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        No they wouldn't. DC has given WB more billion dollar films than their other franchises. They aren't as successful as Marvel but they aren't going to stop

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Warner does not have what it takes

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No, the MCU will never go back to being like it was during phase 1 to 3, weird to me that somehow they didn't know how to keep up, they had an amazing run for an entire decade, they had the DCEU and every failed cinematic universe to see what NOT to do
    And yet they turned into one of those now

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Shitty CGI, the director mocked the audience for wanting quality, and the moron fans still defend it. I say YOU GET WHAT YOU FRICKING DESERVE

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Phase 4 being a huge fail is hard proof that putting a woman into a leading decision making capacity is the quickest way to destroy something that is thriving. MCU circa endgame was on the top of the world and could do no wrong, and all it took to destroy all that momentum, good will, and success was Victoria Alonso allowed to helm an entire Phase. And just like that, the biggest movie franchise the world has ever seen is now on the decline.

    Now, maybe things can be salvaged if the higher ups reign Victoria and her cronies in but look at Star wars, they're still allowing Kathleen Kennedy to run wild and wreck the brand even more than she already has with massive frick ups like Kenobi, so there isn't much hope in a course correction. It seems that this is the end.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      good, I'm tires of woke capeshit and soi wars. can we get back to fun slashers and edgy indies of the nineties and early 2000s now?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      A lot of clothes look like that shit from Amazon, The Boys

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      So do the shareholders just not give a frick about the feminists and political activists within their company that are moonlighting as producers and writers dismantling their cash cows?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        They care more about the company ESG score.

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I watch movie math every week and I would love to had sex with Grace.

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What the frick is the direction of Phase 4, anyway? People talk about how it's leading up to the Secret Wars or some shit, but is there anything that is hinting at that?

    So far, all I see as a bunch of movies that are disconnected from each other yet references each other heavily.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The executives and directors also dont know shit, they are making it up as it goes

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Its going in like ten different directions. Secret wars might be In like 2026 at the earliest. They are setting up midnight suns, young avengers, thunderbolts, etc right now.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        midnight suns is a game that has nothing to do with midnight sons

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          They will change the title because sons is a gendered term

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >all I see as a bunch of movies that are disconnected from each other yet references each other heavily.

      It's pretty much just that, people say that it's leading to Secret Wars because these morons watch theory videos and read what scoopers are saying, so that's where their mind is at
      The movies and shows don't seem to be going anywhere, they're barely connected with each other and they're not telling a unique overarching story like the early phases, they're just setting shit up that will never pay off

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Likely Secret Wars at some point with several of the shows involving Secret Wars. I imagine Secret Wars will turn into some sort of soft reboot where the current McU merges with another and it allows them to recast various roles of certain characters they either want to kill off or recast with someone younger or more suited to the role.

      Of course that would be the smart thing to do and allow them to keep these characters going another 10-15 years and tell stories they never got the chance too with characters that have already been killed or written out.

      Recast Tony Stark, Black Panther, Thor, Hulk, Captain Marvel, Steve Rogers, and bring in mutants or other shit. Of course they will likely frick this up.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >with several of the shows and movies involving the multiverse*

        God these movies are rotting my brain

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The thing about Secret War s is it only happened because Mattel told Marvel they'd onmly license toys if they did a big event with all the heroes and villains. So it comes out of nowhere, the Beyonder just shows up out of the blue and teleports everyone to Battle Planet so they can all duke it out for no reason. So there's not really any breadcrumbs they could have laid, he's a multiversal being so I guess that ties in, maybe it'll be that the Beyonder only noticed 616 or whatever MCU universe is called because of the current multiverse shenanigans, who knows.

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Grace moron

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    When it all fails the shill paycheques will stop. That's why they seem so desparate.

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, if they make an Ultron 2

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