Not only is it one of Morrison’s worst (no it IS his worst) mckean’s “art” (if you want to call it that) is absolutely atrocious in this. It’s awful sequentially and really only appeals to people who like edgy shit. >inb4 you said edgy so you like happy smiles and Superman saving kittens.
There is no redeeming quality of this comic. The dark knight strikes again of all things is more worthwhile artistically and entertainment wise. Hell I’d read red son before this trash.
I’d read Amazon’s attack bef… alright it’s not that bad.
>The Mad Hatter is a pedophile and Two Face shits his pants because he can't decide if he should take a dump or not without his coin!
I don't care for it.
>no it IS his worst
Dare was worse, but Americans can't be expected to know or care about Dare. The closest you can get to a comparison would be a comic that ends with The Red Skull literally raping Captain America, after revealing his master plan to turn the world into sex-perverts, then the White House gets blown up.
>Dare was worse, but Americans can't be expected to know or care about Dare. The closest you can get to a comparison would be a comic that ends with The Red Skull literally raping Captain America, after revealing his master plan to turn the world into sex-perverts, then the White House gets blown up.
holy kek I thought this was hyperbole but it's true. Guess Thatcherism really did a number on britbong lefties.
Imagine trying to make this comparison because you heard people say Alex Ross is overrated.
Dave McKean didn’t make a comic and that’s not just on him it’s on Morrison for not writing a proper script. KC is undoubtedly better, Ross a better comic artist by far, and yes there is actual sequence to his pages. McKean just slapped a bunch of shit on the pages most of the time.
Learn to read anon. We’re discussing a single comic and I’m calling it dogshit, non-sequential and “not a comic”. I did not say he never made a comic. I said Serious house is not a comic. It’s a picture book.
Western comics are largely picture books. This is a damn good picture book though.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Western comics are largely picture books
Yeah because it not like there's far more playing with the format of layout and storytelling than Europe or Japan which tend to just use basic square panels and beat to beat storytelling, give me a break.
Learn to read anon. We’re discussing a single comic and I’m calling it dogshit, non-sequential and “not a comic”. I did not say he never made a comic. I said Serious house is not a comic. It’s a picture book.
It plays with the medium, it has word balloons, panels and it sequential, the style just visually different take your head out your ass.
I’m not discussing his ability in other comics. This is why I told you to learn how to read. I said his work in Serious House isn’t a comic and is just dogshit images slapped together with no rhyme or reason, let alone sequence.
I've always really liked it, but I first read it when I was like 12, so its always had a soft spot for me. Trying to read it on a computer sucks wiener though, makes it even more confusing. But I don't really think the story is that appealing in the first place, mostly just looks cool
The art is great but the plot always seemed a bit messy to me. Still a solid 7/10. Even if it isn't my favorite 80's Morrison work it is an interesting little read.
Ehh the art is alright for what it's trying to do but bit up it's own ass sometimes and lot of characters feel out of character (should've been an Elseworld) an alright comic but Last Arkham is an better BATMAN Arkham comic.
>That's nonsense.
No it makes perfect sense. Last Arkham has all the plot beats and characterization you'd want from Batman in a Batman story. In AA, he's largely a spectator to the goings on and the focus is more on the mood and psychological horror.
I disliked it because Batman came off as a complete pussy throughout. He was getting spooked constantly, jumping at every shadow, whining about what a hard time he's having and in the end he doesn't really save the day. He stabs Killer Croc after getting stabbed and then everyone just lets him go, probably because they felt embarrassed at how badly he jobbed that whole night.
This story is not meant to be taken literally you moron. You never had a nightmare where you're just overwhelmed by a feeling of dread for no apparent reason?
He’s Batman homosexual, you’ve already displayed your contempt for capeshit with the “power level” comment. You’re human refuse that likes the idea of something just because it’s “different”. Different is not a sign of quality.
I'm not the one using the term "capeshit" to deride my own hobby, so I might have more of a genuine appreciation for capes than you. This is an ambitious symbolic story about Batman's psyche. It's not about action or "jobbing". Do you also hate TKJ because it has Joker terrified of Batman when he bursts into the room? Batman's struggle with Croc is a struggle with the overwhelming overpowering animalistic part of his brain that urges him to regress in the face of horrors and give in to base primal fear like an animal would (at least that's the way I remember it, it's probably more complex than that).
8 months ago
Anonymous
Sounds like you’ve never actually read an ongoing since the only other reference you make is to TKJ.
I hate that guy's art.
You’re not allowed to say that anon because it’s different so it’s good.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Because TKJ is a relevant reference here. What kind off pissing contest are you even trying to start?
Honestly, it's pretty overrated. The story is incredibly loose outside of the Amadeus Arkham flashbacks, and, while I like McKean's art in some places, the vast majority of the time here it's just messy and confusing
You want the hot take that Cinemaphile isn't ready for?
Arkham Asylum is EXACTLY what it would look like if someone used an AI to generate all of the art for a comic to replace artists. All vague, amorphous shit slapped together with no sense of scene or continuity.
I feel like none of the people here b***hing about this comic read the 2010 or so edition that includes Morrison's full script with the comic. It's incredibly eye-opening just to the sheer extent of shit Morrison thought to put in in terms of symbols and references, and the things each villain is meant to embody.
That doesn't make it good, though. In fact, I'd say that if the best way to enjoy a work of fiction is for the author to literally explain to you what it means himself, that's the surest sign that it failed at its most fundamental level.
If you have to explain the joke, its a bad joke. Same principal.
You can enjoy the work just fine without it. You won't catch all of the shit he put in, but that's what rereads are for. It even may encourage you to broaden your horizons and discover more things.
People come out of the woodwork to shit on less talked about comics, then go back to not liking anything. They even go after popular, beloved ones, but are met with more resistance, almost as much resistance as you get from hate-readers defending the shit they hate.
What readers have to do is ignore those people and continue to post about comics, but most just don't seem to want to bother with the constant nuisance.
I liked it a lot. The art was amazing and I had the anniversary edition with the annotated script and thumbnail sketches from Morrison so it was really interesting to see how McKean went from that to the final product. Was probably the first time I really thought about how comics were made and who makes these sorts of artistic decisions.
Let me guess, you found out about it because of the new YouTube video that was chosen by the algorithm.
4 lettered word.
No. I don’t but Cinemaphile is not a hivemind.
Not only is it one of Morrison’s worst (no it IS his worst) mckean’s “art” (if you want to call it that) is absolutely atrocious in this. It’s awful sequentially and really only appeals to people who like edgy shit.
>inb4 you said edgy so you like happy smiles and Superman saving kittens.
There is no redeeming quality of this comic. The dark knight strikes again of all things is more worthwhile artistically and entertainment wise. Hell I’d read red son before this trash.
I’d read Amazon’s attack bef… alright it’s not that bad.
>reddit spacing
I don't have to read the rest of your post to know you're a moron
That's not reddit spacing moron
newbies always expose themselves with this, huh?
Quiet, newbie
Serious house in serious earth is peak Reddit you homosexual
You'd know
>The Mad Hatter is a pedophile and Two Face shits his pants because he can't decide if he should take a dump or not without his coin!
I don't care for it.
>no it IS his worst
Dare was worse, but Americans can't be expected to know or care about Dare. The closest you can get to a comparison would be a comic that ends with The Red Skull literally raping Captain America, after revealing his master plan to turn the world into sex-perverts, then the White House gets blown up.
>Dare was worse, but Americans can't be expected to know or care about Dare. The closest you can get to a comparison would be a comic that ends with The Red Skull literally raping Captain America, after revealing his master plan to turn the world into sex-perverts, then the White House gets blown up.
holy kek I thought this was hyperbole but it's true. Guess Thatcherism really did a number on britbong lefties.
Not all comics need to hsve hardcore sequential paneling. Do you hate Marvels and Kingdom Come too because of Ross' art?
Imagine trying to make this comparison because you heard people say Alex Ross is overrated.
Dave McKean didn’t make a comic and that’s not just on him it’s on Morrison for not writing a proper script. KC is undoubtedly better, Ross a better comic artist by far, and yes there is actual sequence to his pages. McKean just slapped a bunch of shit on the pages most of the time.
>Dave McKean didn’t make a comic
He has made many comics. You suffer from capeshit overload syndrome.
Learn to read anon. We’re discussing a single comic and I’m calling it dogshit, non-sequential and “not a comic”. I did not say he never made a comic. I said Serious house is not a comic. It’s a picture book.
Western comics are largely picture books. This is a damn good picture book though.
>Western comics are largely picture books
Yeah because it not like there's far more playing with the format of layout and storytelling than Europe or Japan which tend to just use basic square panels and beat to beat storytelling, give me a break.
It plays with the medium, it has word balloons, panels and it sequential, the style just visually different take your head out your ass.
McKean is better at art and writing than Ross. Go read Cages and Black Dog.
I’m not discussing his ability in other comics. This is why I told you to learn how to read. I said his work in Serious House isn’t a comic and is just dogshit images slapped together with no rhyme or reason, let alone sequence.
You just like it because “different is better”
No, McKean is just more interesting to look at.
Alex Ross is different too.
Ross is shit and so is KC. That dumb poser shit is not comic art.
Let's not go that far.
Morrison's best Batman comic.
It's better than Gothic and his Bat Epic.
Morrison is trash
Batman getting angry at Joker slapping his butt is hilarious. Overall it feels a fever dream just like author intended. Also great art
nah (you) are
I love the art although that’s an very polarizing aspect of the book
I've always really liked it, but I first read it when I was like 12, so its always had a soft spot for me. Trying to read it on a computer sucks wiener though, makes it even more confusing. But I don't really think the story is that appealing in the first place, mostly just looks cool
its a masterpiece. easily among the top ten batman comics
The art is great but the plot always seemed a bit messy to me. Still a solid 7/10. Even if it isn't my favorite 80's Morrison work it is an interesting little read.
i related to it
You're telling me this isn't kino?
Yes, how in gods name could you think that’s good? Just because you like the two face design? Shit is awful.
Yeah, it's good. Love the art.
Ehh the art is alright for what it's trying to do but bit up it's own ass sometimes and lot of characters feel out of character (should've been an Elseworld) an alright comic but Last Arkham is an better BATMAN Arkham comic.
>lesser known comic X is better than the super popular comic Y
People always say this, but then you read both and it turns out to be bullshit.
I said it's better BATMAN comic not a better comic.
That's nonsense.
No.
>No.
back to plebbit Black person
Arkham Asylum everyone feels extremely out of character besides Joker.
Well, it is a reimagining of sorts.
>That's nonsense.
No it makes perfect sense. Last Arkham has all the plot beats and characterization you'd want from Batman in a Batman story. In AA, he's largely a spectator to the goings on and the focus is more on the mood and psychological horror.
Batman is not a spectator because everything going on relates directly to him.
Any comic reader worth his salt knows Alan Grant mogs Morrison
It's a fine commentary on the unhinged, grimdark take on Batman.
I disliked it because Batman came off as a complete pussy throughout. He was getting spooked constantly, jumping at every shadow, whining about what a hard time he's having and in the end he doesn't really save the day. He stabs Killer Croc after getting stabbed and then everyone just lets him go, probably because they felt embarrassed at how badly he jobbed that whole night.
he got triggered and was trying to work through it
Enter: powerlevel moron trying to comprehend a symbolic story that doesn't revolve around powerlevels
What does power level homosexualry have to do with a man who spends his life in the shadows being scared of things in the shadows?
Batman isn’t Shaggy dumbass
>inb4 le zesty red shirt shaggy memes
This story is not meant to be taken literally you moron. You never had a nightmare where you're just overwhelmed by a feeling of dread for no apparent reason?
He’s Batman homosexual, you’ve already displayed your contempt for capeshit with the “power level” comment. You’re human refuse that likes the idea of something just because it’s “different”. Different is not a sign of quality.
I'm not the one using the term "capeshit" to deride my own hobby, so I might have more of a genuine appreciation for capes than you. This is an ambitious symbolic story about Batman's psyche. It's not about action or "jobbing". Do you also hate TKJ because it has Joker terrified of Batman when he bursts into the room? Batman's struggle with Croc is a struggle with the overwhelming overpowering animalistic part of his brain that urges him to regress in the face of horrors and give in to base primal fear like an animal would (at least that's the way I remember it, it's probably more complex than that).
Sounds like you’ve never actually read an ongoing since the only other reference you make is to TKJ.
You’re not allowed to say that anon because it’s different so it’s good.
Because TKJ is a relevant reference here. What kind off pissing contest are you even trying to start?
>no you moron, you just don't get it, it's supposed to be symbolic
My sense of boredom and irritation while reading it was definitely literal.
Stick to shonen.
Yes. I'd waited years for Two-Face to wet himself. Dream: realized.
I didn't. Mostly because the art was shit. Yeah, I said it.
Honestly, it's pretty overrated. The story is incredibly loose outside of the Amadeus Arkham flashbacks, and, while I like McKean's art in some places, the vast majority of the time here it's just messy and confusing
You want the hot take that Cinemaphile isn't ready for?
Arkham Asylum is EXACTLY what it would look like if someone used an AI to generate all of the art for a comic to replace artists. All vague, amorphous shit slapped together with no sense of scene or continuity.
I feel like none of the people here b***hing about this comic read the 2010 or so edition that includes Morrison's full script with the comic. It's incredibly eye-opening just to the sheer extent of shit Morrison thought to put in in terms of symbols and references, and the things each villain is meant to embody.
That doesn't make it good, though. In fact, I'd say that if the best way to enjoy a work of fiction is for the author to literally explain to you what it means himself, that's the surest sign that it failed at its most fundamental level.
If you have to explain the joke, its a bad joke. Same principal.
You can enjoy the work just fine without it. You won't catch all of the shit he put in, but that's what rereads are for. It even may encourage you to broaden your horizons and discover more things.
I hate that guy's art.
I mean, it made for a nifty trailer for a fake Spanish movie.
fricking amazing
I am starting to get why nobody ever talks about comics on Cinemaphile.
People come out of the woodwork to shit on less talked about comics, then go back to not liking anything. They even go after popular, beloved ones, but are met with more resistance, almost as much resistance as you get from hate-readers defending the shit they hate.
What readers have to do is ignore those people and continue to post about comics, but most just don't seem to want to bother with the constant nuisance.
Its unfortunate.
I liked it a lot. The art was amazing and I had the anniversary edition with the annotated script and thumbnail sketches from Morrison so it was really interesting to see how McKean went from that to the final product. Was probably the first time I really thought about how comics were made and who makes these sorts of artistic decisions.