Does anyone else find it stupid when people's super powers can cause them harm?

Does anyone else find it stupid when people's super powers can cause them harm? Like when Firestar's abilities gave her cancer.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That makes sense. What’s stupid is all the times it doesn't.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well, you know, microwaves cause cancer and shit.

      Not OP but shouldn't her body come with immunity to something like that since she has the powers?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I liked when Hank fixed it

        It should. But it didn't.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I like when other super heroes actually help their fellows with no much fuss.

          Made me remember when Hank wasn't shit.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I liked when Hank fixed it
            Good ole Hank

            Busiek was good to Hank. I miss him.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It was grim when I began to look for Hank Pym in the comics after digging him in EMH as a young teen

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He was an adult in that show.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's easy to think Hank was always the company whipping boy, especially post 2000s, but there was actually a lot of times when Hank was treated fairly well.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I liked when Hank fixed it
          Good ole Hank

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Make it "Hank", Angelica
          >Now put this on
          Based Hank

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not necessarily.

        [...]
        >pointless drama
        yawn

        [...]
        >fiction being unrealistic is a flaw
        You're boring.

        [...]
        You're the people Morrison was talking about when he mentioned "who gasses up the Batmobile"

        >assumptions
        If a little more science trickled into superhero fiction, it would be a lot more fun and less bullshit. You could build a better internal logic to keep consistency, and you could use the myriad theorems and discoveries to fuel the fantasies.
        Just a little, though. Not too much.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Stop trying to make magic less magical. No one cares how Excalibur works, it just does.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This is a superhero that has had her powers explained many times, though.

            You're not giga brained because you can explain why shit don't break when Superman hoists shit up

            It's more fun to see ingenuity combined with his fantastical powers.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's made by faeries, that's more detail than we get for most stuff, and that helped explain the ending of the tale too.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You're not giga brained because you can explain why shit don't break when Superman hoists shit up

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://parahumans.wordpress.com/

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Based

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Based

            Going by the discussions here, this just seems like fuel for death battle junkies.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Welcome to stuff that involves a lot of fighting.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Honestly as someone who loves realistic stuff, the problem with realism in comics now is it has to balance with the more out-there stuff.
          Even trying to establish consistent grounding by the universe's own logic is hell because one rogue writer can undo it in a month.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That and most attempts at realism nowadays just amount to "[x] but without narrative convenience" instead of an actual examination

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well, you know, microwaves cause cancer and shit.

      >pointless drama
      yawn

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well, you know, microwaves cause cancer and shit.

      >fiction being unrealistic is a flaw
      You're boring.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well, you know, microwaves cause cancer and shit.

      You're the people Morrison was talking about when he mentioned "who gasses up the Batmobile"

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Well, you know, microwaves cause cancer and shit.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Depends on how it's written/used

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think it can be interesting, adds a nice sense of tension or strategy if a decent writer utilize it.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This specific case seems to have started around the time a story in New Warriors gave Firestar some massive cosmic-level power creep, so they balanced that out with a massively edgy drawback that made her afraid to risk using her new power level, keeping it as a last resort thing, so later stories could just keep using her at her normal power level and not overshadow the rest of the team by being insanely OP.

    Then she joined the Avengers, where her new OP abilities were only used once, Hank Pym fixed her powers for a while, but later she got cancer anyway.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >being a mutant is a gift
    >gets cancer from own powers

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She was only created because they couldn't get Johnny Storm for the Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends cartoon.
      Because licensing.
      Shits moronic as frick to me, no we can't have the character appear in multiple things at once.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    well, if you dna replicate themself to much, it cause cancer on you.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Has Wolverine ever gotten cancer?
      His cells replicate all the time, what with the healing he does.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, Wolverine just gets new meat from the Meat Dimension.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    But what if it happens as a joke?

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's similar to having super strength without super durability.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sunspot specifically has this as a power, but I don't think they ever bothered to explain why his arms or legs are tough enough to not snap when he punts a motherfricker through a concrete wall or punches, say, Colossus, but the entirety of his body can still be injured by mundane shit like bullets or thugs. Does his power work selectively and only has super durability when he's actively using his super strength or something?

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's good if it's setting wide.
    Everybody is OK except you because frick you, we need some drama, it's weak.
    With how superpowers tend to come they should be dangerous for the user in some way.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No. It’s barely ever the case so in times when it actually happens it’s interesting

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Monster Girl (from Invincible) gets younger every time she transforms. You might not think that's a bad side-effect but she doesn't like it.

    Same with Golden Gail (from Black Hammer). An old wizard granted her superpowers when she was 9. Her "mortal" form aged over the decades but the superheroine was permanently 9. Then, one day, the magic word stopped working and she was stuck at 9. She remembers having boobs and having sex, but that's all gone.
    Also, to keep her secret, she needs to keep adopting different identities and has been through 4th grade about 20 times. She can't be seen smoking or drinking either. She is, understandably, bored out of her fricking mind!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Monster Girl (from Invincible) gets younger every time she transforms.
      Monster Girl's abilities are the result of a curse, like Dupli-Kate's. They aren't "natural" to her.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I miss her.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The X-men ruined her.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Many such cases.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How?
        You won't give me a how outside of "uhhhh x-men bad!"

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          X-Men writing bad. More specifically, the author clearly didn't want her in the lineup and had no ideas for her, so he spent the entire run having other characters treat her like shit for being an Avenger despite multiple X-Men characters also being active or reserve Avenger memberships. Then at the end of the run he has a psychic make everyone believe she is a rascist supervillain.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah about what I expected

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >. Then at the end of the run he has a psychic make everyone believe she is a rascist supervillain.
            Does anyone ever like when writers use characters as punching bags? Or is the general sentiment "I don't give a frick about this character so it's fine." Cause shit like this doesn't feel like a real story, it seems like a bad joke someone made with their friends being written into a script.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Only if there is some catharsis to it, which means it only works on characters that are disliked.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              While it's in service to the general overarching storyline as Firestar is acting as a double agent against the villains of the story, it very much is generally apathy from the storywriters who think they can do better with the character than they're actually capable of. Especially with Firestar, who legitimately has far more interesting stories and ties that lie outside the X-men that are completely ignored because it's the age of mutants only talking to mutants and only those ties mattering.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        truest words

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's a decent way to keep OP characters from ruining your narrative. Of course, the best way is just not having OP characters in the first place, but this is Marvel we're talking about.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    X-Men bad

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Kek

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Kek

      X-men is bad. Only an unironic npc thinks theyre good people

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I only know her as a character created because they couldn't use Johnny Storm for whatever reason.

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