Does being popular matter that much?

Does being popular matter that much?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dipper never takes rejection well

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Personal theory is Elons attempt to remove bots just shook the hornets nest. Or maybe it's a sly way of encouraging people to subscribe to twitter blue? Every site has it but X's is on a completely different level.

      Thought [...] was being silly but damn the artist got Dipperized hard on this one

      oh no no no dipperbros

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He looks like he based his style off of Baby Blues.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it is, but you also need to understand you need to work around topics for popularity, people wont care for your own stuff because theres no connection, you nees to be smart, make fanart, tread on topics you actually have interest tho, otherwise you will resent your "popularity"

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it is
      Unless you're shallow as hell.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I thought that guy was deciding "do I want to deal with that"

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you're trying to be a freelance/patreon/commission artist, being popular is everything.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      To a degree yes. If you manage to build a niche, but dedicated audience of recurring customers, it can work out well enough without reaching gangbuster numbers.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It feels better, and it's great to have a audience support you and inspire you to keep going.
    Otherwise, if you're juggling real life shit with your art, eventually you will most likely abandon your passion

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you're trying to be a freelance/patreon/commission artist, being popular is everything.

      This. If you're popular, you sell more commissions and can charge more for commissions, which is encouraging and concretely supports your ability to devote time to drawing. Also, throwing your work into the void with nobody bothering to comment or anything begins to feel pointless, and eventually will drive artists to just keep their work to themselves.
      I will say that "making it" as an online first world artist is very difficult, because you have to charge more to receive any significant amount for your work, and most likely you're drawing alongside some other form of employment. Thridworlders can literally make a decent living churning out $40 commissions, which is why you see so many CA/SA and SEA artists who pump out a ton of art on twitter

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Except begging for popularity is just pathetic and reeks of desperation. Try to immerse yourself into art spheres or groups naturally, instead of trying to force yourself out there and plead for others to see your stuff.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >If you're popular, you sell more commissions and can charge more for commissions
        not necessarily
        I'm friends with plenty of twitter artists that have follower counts in the 5 figure counts and even they struggle to get consistent commissions unless they do some sort of trendy shit to draw and even that doesn't translate to anything tangible money-wise
        Unironically the ones that do make a livable income from patreon/commissions are the 1% of artists and they had to get lucky with getting popular years ago before patreon became an option. Nowadays if you get popular the most you could get financially is doing commission slots every once in a while or shilling some shitty plush and even they always get burnt out from doing a few of them
        Sometimes clout =/= success

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Man I checked a porn artist's site and he had like 5 commission slots, each being in the hundreds. To be fair, I say he makes the best art and although it's not exclusive he specializes in a specific type of art. I would love to pay for something but I have no ocs, nor money.
          I think most artists hate dealing with commissions too since it can be a hassle.
          >shitty plush
          I noticed thats the trend since youtooz died down.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          To make money from art you just find a fetish that the weirdly rich furries will pay you to draw. Make 1000 a week from drawing muscle horse or something.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >weirdly rich furries
            I get the feeling that's rooted in furries being a group of nerds who established a web presence early on and stuck around, so you have furry commissioners who are in their mid-50s and older, who have a larger amount of disposable income and don't think much about dropping $1k on a piece of art

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            study flattening, TF of all kinds, Inflation, muscle growth.
            AR, and AP.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Toucan Henry... Is there no justice in this world?

      Depends on what you want, there's some artists who give zero fricks about being popular, commendable, but I don't fault people for wanting their shit seen or even trying t work it into a career so they can do that shit full time.
      The issue is gays like OP who feel entitled to an audience but aren't putting in the work to create something that appeals to the mass they're going for or find an existing audience that's receptive to their output. Even worse is this guy literally hasn't changed for years, and is the same mediocre unremarkable mascot character doing fricking nothing.

      Yeah this guy wasn't technically wrong with the argument. Plenty of people joke and complain about visibility and social media platforms are becoming more hostile to anything that isn't maximizing engagement right off the bat. But he was probably the worst person to be saying it. I looked at his comics and honestly it's impressive how someone could work so long on something and make so little progress.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this abstract situation is essentially what happened to me
      when I was a kid and young teen, all I wanted was to start a comic or have a cartoon
      at around 14 or 15 years old, I realized that no one cared, I sucked at drawing, I couldn't animate worth shit, and I got mocked for even trying
      no one read my comics except me and they were cringe
      my siblings and their friends would sometimes raid my room to get shit that I drew, read the comics, and bully me for it
      I ended up burning everything so no one could go back to it, including me
      now I'm a good little company man with a wife and a house and all I want to do is hang myself in my basement and be done with my life
      I will never create something beautiful and, even if I tried now, I would be ripped to shreds
      even if you do succeed at doing something, artists are some of the most envious people and will do their damndest to drag you down
      there is no point to being creative anymore

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Or maybe you just suck. Oh well. Get over it. I wanted to be an artist, but then I realized that I didn't have the patience to hone my skills. It got worse with age, so I just gave up. Am i gonna cry about it? No. Figure out what works for you. Quit crying about the shit that doesn't.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Just draw you little b***h

          thanks for making my point, anons
          I'm sure you were both delighted to write something dismissive to a stranger
          this is why being creative is fricking pointless and meaningless in a culture that enjoys being mean to people
          you wouldn't say shit like this to your mother, or to your children, but you will say it to strangers you don't even know - even a stranger who outright mentions a desire to commit suicide
          I'm going to live my miserable life and content myself with Walter Mitty fantasies until I die

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Bro, learn how to live in the real world.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >you wouldn't say shit like this to your mother, or to your children
            You're not my mom, nor my kid. Quit being stupid.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I'm going to live my miserable life and content myself with Walter Mitty fantasies until I die
            Nice, just like me, Living frustrated because you know that others can do better things than you and that makes them worth more than you, my way to cope is remember every day, One day I will die!!

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            why are you talking personal insults from incels who wouldn't even make eye contact with you on the street? no one on this board is worth listening to, or pleasing.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You sound like some teenage emo homosexual:
            Shut up, noone cares, queer.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Art is meaningless. The only reason to live is for life itself. You'll never create anything beautiful, but you fail to remember that every bit of beauty will be wiped from be face of the earth sooner or later. Nothing ever lasts forever.

            Now quit being a b***h. Take care of yourself, for your wife and for all the other people who love you. You think nobody will miss you when you're gone but you couldn't be more wrong. You'll think nobody will miss you but you won't get to hear their terrible screams when you die untimely.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              he was right and everyone jumping on the #trend of #gossiping about him and turning him into a #meme only proved him right
              artists on twitter are hyper trend chasers and its honestly sad to see

              Both of you are right.

              He had childish naivety/ego AND the online art community are gossip queens that aren't worth your time

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >babby's first nihilism
              If he likes art he should make art. From a more practical perspective, I suspect the ultimate reason artistic creatives get depressed about their creations is mass media. Art takes effort, and instead of making stuff for your immediate social group which is duly appreciated as in days of yore, contemporary artists are compared to everybody in the whole goddamn world which is an unreasonably high bar.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's actually babby's last nihilism. The culmination is that you realize that, since everything is technically meaningless, then everything has practical meaning, even the smallest things. Life is for life's sake. You reach the same positive conclusion as that of other philosophies, just by a different path. That is why even the stick figures and cringe crude fetish art have value. Because they just do by virtue of existing. You should create if you have even a single creative bone in your body, regardless of the fact that everything will be lost to time and the universe will one day billions of years from now come to a complete stop.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The culmination is that you realize that, since everything is technically meaningless, then everything has practical meaning, even the smallest things.
                I regard that as pretty basic to the philosophy and something you inevitably arrive at early on if you aren't conflicted about it, is why I'm dismissive of it as being some great meaningful realisation. But visual artists are in a tough spot in terms of emotional feedback. Compare more intimate art forms (and I know they're not the same thing really): I'm an excellent cook, and I run a mean TTRPG. Without false modesty I'm definitely better than 90% of people at these things, not without effort, and I can take a tiny bit of pride in those small accomplishments. But the "audience" for those is a handful of friends and acquaintances. If I was being compared to the population at large like someone posting their drawings online, 90th percentile is dogshit. A visual artist can be really quite good but they're always judged against the best.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Other philosophies are important in terms of developing analytical thought which propels the mind to seek knowledge, a critical component of higher learning. But when it comes down to "My life is meaningless, should I kill myself?" there's no other relevant philosophy. This does not guarantee one's mental safety, but it forces you to reckon with everything else *besides* the meaning of life before you take your own life. Treat life's meaning as a given, and then you can assess your pain or whether or not the world would be better without you, etc.

                As for art skill, at a certain point it stops mattering (when it comes to online community that is, professional work is obv different). Some of my favorite artists are really bad at drawing, but are just good enough that they draw characters I find charming and adorable. That's all that matters. Technically skilled artists can be completely bland and uncreative. I want heart. People don't realize it but passion is what they look for.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Treat life's meaning as a given, and then you can assess your pain or whether or not the world would be better without you, etc.
                Ah, regrettably not so. "There are no extrinsic meanings" and "life's meaning is axiomatic" aren't compatible views. There are multiple very strong arguments against suicide on both a philosophical and personal level, such as that death kiboshes any and all considerations on the one hand, and potential suicides are nearly invariably not operating in a wholly rational frame of mind on the other, but having been on both ends of the argument under pretty dire stakes I wouldn't dare argue with a suicide risk using a claim as inconsistent as "life matters just 'cuz".

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, it's still babby's [x] nihilism after all. I suppose you're right overall, though I don't mean to imply them as opposing views. It is one thought that leads to the other, something like
                >Nothing has meaning.
                >Therefore I should die.
                >Everyone should die just to prove life is meaningless.
                >I thought I was supposed to benefit humanity in order to be worthy of life.
                >But what's the point of benefiting humanity if it's meaningless?
                >Even if a God existed, God would be as pointless as the rest of existence.
                >Why try? I guess I don't have to try.
                >My expectations for myself have vanished.
                >Now I don't need to meet any expectations.
                >I won't prove anything by dying, because death is meaningless too.
                >Why not just see what there is? There's nothing else to life except to experience it, for no reason at all.
                Of course, this is not something you can ever convince someone else of. You can show them a train of thought but you can't make them believe it. And it's a terrible idea to ideologically debate someone who is in a crisis situation.
                tl;dr It's not "real" philosophy, it's a self-defense against the dread of meaninglessness, and it's the only defense we have. What else is there?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >it's a self-defense against the dread of meaninglessness, and it's the only defense we have. What else is there?
                Taking the question non-rhetorically: existential angst is usually a symptom of emotional problems rather than a cause; as you point out "nothing has meaning" doesn't logically lead into "therefore I should die". Healthy, happy people don't generally need a defence and unhappy people have more immediate concerns.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just draw you little b***h

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        thanks for making my point, anons
        I'm sure you were both delighted to write something dismissive to a stranger
        this is why being creative is fricking pointless and meaningless in a culture that enjoys being mean to people
        you wouldn't say shit like this to your mother, or to your children, but you will say it to strangers you don't even know - even a stranger who outright mentions a desire to commit suicide
        I'm going to live my miserable life and content myself with Walter Mitty fantasies until I die

        I'm terribly sorry you feel that, anon. I was the one who wrote earlier about the joy of creating OC. Personally, I never do it with the real hope of every being recognized or seen. I do things for myself, and make thing I want to see, because not to do so is to be forever reliant on others to maybe dribble it to me here and there or to pay out for it. By drawing, I have attained a smidgen of freedom of expression for myself, even if I am not good at it.
        I'd encourage you to take up drawing seriously again. It will be very painful, it will take time, but if you do get to the point where you can genuinely draw things you like, you have made a little success for yourself. Sometimes that's the best we can hope for. I never post my stuff for this reason. I'm not bothered about going out and making other people look at what I like- first and foremost, I draw for myself. I hope you can too, sometime, if you should so like. good luck out there.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Damn, your poor wife.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I will never create something beautiful and, even if I tried now, I would be ripped to shreds
        By who? Those siblings and their friends who clearly hated your guts?
        Or are you afraid your loving wife will dump you the second you make a funny drawing?
        Grow a spine, put a pencil to paper, and draw as much as possible. Draw for drawing's sake and when you're satisfied with your growth, show your fricking wife.
        Then put a kid in her and give the little one the encouraging environment you never had yourself.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I love that video

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Here's some advice for your situation, Anon:
        Across the street for attention, along the road for results.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Try painting instead

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        thanks for making my point, anons
        I'm sure you were both delighted to write something dismissive to a stranger
        this is why being creative is fricking pointless and meaningless in a culture that enjoys being mean to people
        you wouldn't say shit like this to your mother, or to your children, but you will say it to strangers you don't even know - even a stranger who outright mentions a desire to commit suicide
        I'm going to live my miserable life and content myself with Walter Mitty fantasies until I die

        Anon, while I’m sorry to hear about how the people around you reacted to your comics in the past, you do understand you can create things just because you enjoy it right? I was in a similar boat to you, where for years I wanted to make a webfic with popularity on par with big names like Worm or PGTE. Ofc it was naive, I hardly knew how to write & the more I learned the more I realized how far away from that goal I was, yet I continued. But here’s the thing: I hated it. It wasn’t fun. I was just forcing myself to do it. I felt no gratification in the process, & though I did improve it was so incremental that I felt like I was getting nowhere. On top of that, I came to realize popularity mostly arose from connections & community instead of outright quality—which I had 0 interest in establishing myself in, like I could somehow exist in my own little vacuum. The final nail in the coffin (and mock me if you will, I wouldn’t blame you) was AI, at which point I figured it was hopeless since machines were catching up to people anyways. How could I even compete with something like that flooding the web? So… I gave up.

        Kinda.

        Now, there was this piece of advice I heard & ignored thinking that I knew better: write for yourself. Don’t just seek attention, or you’ll end up hating what you create. Because I ignored this I wound up depressed for months, but eventually I came back to the parts of writing that I genuinely enjoyed: worldbuilding and character creation. So now I make stuff for myself, with me as my only audience. And let me tell you, I’m *way* more satisfied. In fact, now that I stopped hyper-focusing on appealing to anyone I even feel like I ironically got better at my writing too, so… there’s that.

        Point is: do what you want for your own sake, and frick what the others think. If you truly have that passion, then make that shitty comic of your dreams. If not, then just let it go—it was never to be.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          NTA but good advice

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          this can also be cathartic, in that you get it out of your system and can move on with your life if you've given it a shot and finished something, whether it's quality or not. so from there you can decide if you want to continue or just be done with it so your mind stops nagging you.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I ended up burning everything so no one could go back to it, including me

        Dude, I literally did the same thing, but for opposite reasons, I was very good at drawing at a young age to the point where I could "trace" something from the TV to the paper by just looking at it, my parents didn't mind too much but noticed that I was very good at it, because it was all the shit I used to do at that time.
        I ended up burning it all because I reached a point where my curious child mind put cartoon characters in suggestive poses in underwear, and when my 4 year-old sister found them I can only explain that it was the first time in my life that I felt true embarrassment, so in secret I made sure that all of those drawings along with tons of paper were gone on fire to never came back.
        My mother sometimes remember that I used to draw a lot and she feels guilty for having burned part of those drawings, which I only thank because they only exist in my memory now, lmao

        and yeah sorry you had to live through that, no one deserves to have their dreams thrown away

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I read some webcomics that had amateurish art but hold up in it's writing.
        while i had to push through the first impression, it became one of my favorite webcomics.
        I also read many of comics that had great art but bad writing or was abandoned after page 6.

        Too be honest, if you really want to make a name for yourself, you have to break your perfectionist mindset and the fear of criticism and just post; write it, draw it, post it.
        Don't listen to the haters but take account of the constructive criticisms; the people who actually wants you to improve.

        You really just have to start it; and learn to improve down the road, if you want to improve. Don't fear your shortcomings.

        maybe i should start following my own advice?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This whole thing when it first started actually made me reflect on my work and webcomic. I wasn't getting much attention on it after a while but I always carried a mentality that I should never blame my audience. The advice anons said in those early threads about making something people wanted to read or captured interest was what fueled me to change things up in my webcomic.

          A few months later after alot of reworking and redesigning I began showing the new version of it with that advice. While it wasn't quick I did actually start to get new readers coming in to see what was different and even saw anons trying to make threads about my comic now on here.

          So yeah, humbling yourself and trying to improve is really the way to go.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >be smol child
        >always draw
        >draw bad
        >continue to draw
        >meet people that can draw
        >talk with them
        >keep drawin
        >Growing stronger
        >buy tablet
        >grow more
        >buy bitter tablet
        >make comic for small circle of friend
        >get praise
        >drawgay on some threrads here and there
        >get praises
        >happy
        >got a lot of people shitting on it
        >don't care drawin makes me happy
        i don't draw well but i learn to love the processe so much that the result don't even matter anymore, and people's critic and hate can't match my inner critisicism so it falls flat.
        i would have wish to see what you drew cause no matter the result the genuine honesty is what i love

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          show us what you got, if you're so sure of yourself, drawhomosexual

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i am sure

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              also to add from my post here

              >when the artist challenged the internet, man asked, would you be able to move past the critisicism?"
              >the artist replied, " well, if my ego wasn't that high, it might give me a little trouble"
              >but would you drow has an creative
              >nah, i'd whine

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >all I want to do is hang myself in my basement and be done with my life
        Based

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Toucans are my favorite animal. I'd let this guy tell me all about Toucan Henry.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I understand the frustration, but it is never a good look to complain about not being noticed on social media. This is a topic you have a heart-to-heart with a friend on your own self worth, not doomposting about your irrelevance. It comes across as whiny and self-entitled.
      Besides, it makes sense. If you made ’s Toucan Henry, most people won’t give a shit. But if you post Toucan Henry on a furry website, especially a community that likes bird furries, then it would improve your chance of being noticed since there will be people looking for feathered furries. But posting on twat? Most of it is for porn and angry posts. That’s like bringing oc to the Cinemaphile racebait thread.
      The trends are gay, but you aren’t owed attention. Trending shit is competing for the attention of others.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >oc to the Cinemaphile racebait thread
        haha yeah <.< >.>

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >hours of time and effort

      I still think he did nothing wrong, nsfw artists on twitter are the shittiest breed of artists, especially when the strip game shit started to beg for retweets and likes.

      >come up with idea you like
      >think it's cool
      >draw it
      >like it lots
      >draw it more
      simple as

      Already been done

      The real discrimination going on here has nothing to do with OCs vs trends, but males vs females.
      If his OC was a cute or hot girl, everyone would be going awooga and drawing porn and ecchi.
      Nobody gives a shit about male chaeracters.

      This is the real issue

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Personal theory is Elons attempt to remove bots just shook the hornets nest. Or maybe it's a sly way of encouraging people to subscribe to twitter blue? Every site has it but X's is on a completely different level.

        Correct, he should've given the bug breasts

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Whoch is funny considering how male characters that are popular are REALLY popular.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If you make it attract fujos or tumblrs then sure. A little chub or dad bod, some arm hair, blush on the nose, and some pastel colors and boom! You have a male character for all the horny women to enjoy.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >A little chub or dad bod, some arm hair, blush on the nose, and some pastel colors and boom
            damn my male ocs are the opposite

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Pretty sure

        was just a shit post and not related to any of this discussion.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I still think he did nothing wrong, nsfw artists on twitter are the shittiest breed of artists, especially when the strip game shit started to beg for retweets and likes.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >hours of time and effort

      Naw. He's wrong.

      Hours of effort for that actually shows where he's weak as an artist. He want accolades for mediocre results.

      This is more about acting entitled.

      I've seen some wacky and zany art styles get great engagement, but this guy far from refined.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I mean, he was being an autistic crybaby, but he's not wrong. Twitter is annoying as frick and is a detriment to fanart, encouraging artists to draw less of their original ideas and more meme shit to get trending. Gotta draw more anime girls with fatass things in goth clothing!!! Gotta keep posting generic one-liners like "step on me mommy"!!! Gotta attract the lowest common denominator!!!
      Terrible. I can't wait for this empire of hentai-addicted zoomers to collapse.

      But it doesn't even feel genuine, most of it is homogenized to include a bunch of the most popular basic b***h normie fetishes with basic b***h copy-pasted hentai dialogue.

      No. He's wrong, and you're fricking dumb with him.
      Here's the hard truth, you need to actually know how to market and get familiar with a demographic to make your art and designs successful, you need to improve your skills to pander to that demographic. Don't blame NSFW artists for actually knowing the trade and reaching out to who they're trying to appeal to.

      This shit doesn't deserve attention.

      >hours of time and effort

      Just looking at it's bland, it's flat, it's generic, there's no real character to this, these are characters you place on a generic cereal bag you would get a dollar store, not a cereal box, a cereal bag.

      Character design isn't as simple as, I drew a thing, shower me with praise, you need to actually work at making your characters appealing to wider audience, you need to convince the masses your characters are worth giving a shit about, even if it's as simple as appealing to base desires like "that's sexy, that's cool, that's cute" ect.

      Nobody has any obligation to give a shit about your art, you as an artist have to give them a reason to care

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Nobody has any obligation to give a shit about your art, you as an artist have to give them a reason to care

        Even as an artist I don't give any shits about my peer's art.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't know why you felt it necessary to go on this self-righteous tangent largely irrelevant to my post about how much twitter sucks for art. Do you enjoy beating down on the mentally deficient like this guy? His reaction is disproportionate to the quality of his work, but who gives a shit? I'm much more concerned about the platform. I repeat: homogenized art made to follow trends and appeal to the lowest common denominator is shit and soulless. I will continue to call it shit and soulless. Because I remember when art platforms weren't full of that shit, when people came there to express themselves and draw stuff they liked, not treat it as a substitute for a job by whoring their skill out.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Shut the frick up. You're whining that people who draw are appealing to a demographic, that's literally what you're supposed to do. It's no-one's fault if your art doesn't get seen but your own, because guess what? That's what marketing is, that's what conncetions are for. It's not the easiest thing in the world, but it might not always work, but don't like an entitled child because they're working with the platform and what people want out of it. And if people want to sell their art, then that's all the more reason to make it.

          Art is either a hobby or a job, you can make it both, but the "job" part should take precedence, and you need to damn well treat it like one. And if it's a hobby, don't act like a b***h that people don't care about something, you yourself aren't taking seriously.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >create a group of dog girls based on RPG classes
        >give them a variety of shapes and sizes
        >give them personalities even the simplest will do
        >let people draw porn of them (even if you don't share it around), thus spreading them to a wider audience
        CH knows what's up.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >those feetpaws

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      Naw. He's wrong.

      Hours of effort for that actually shows where he's weak as an artist. He want accolades for mediocre results.

      This is more about acting entitled.

      I've seen some wacky and zany art styles get great engagement, but this guy far from refined.

      [...]
      [...]
      No. He's wrong, and you're fricking dumb with him.
      Here's the hard truth, you need to actually know how to market and get familiar with a demographic to make your art and designs successful, you need to improve your skills to pander to that demographic. Don't blame NSFW artists for actually knowing the trade and reaching out to who they're trying to appeal to.

      This shit doesn't deserve attention. [...] Just looking at it's bland, it's flat, it's generic, there's no real character to this, these are characters you place on a generic cereal bag you would get a dollar store, not a cereal box, a cereal bag.

      Character design isn't as simple as, I drew a thing, shower me with praise, you need to actually work at making your characters appealing to wider audience, you need to convince the masses your characters are worth giving a shit about, even if it's as simple as appealing to base desires like "that's sexy, that's cool, that's cute" ect.

      Nobody has any obligation to give a shit about your art, you as an artist have to give them a reason to care

      He's both right and wrong
      it's basically what

      >Does being popular matter that much?
      It only matters if you know how to utilize that popularity. If you're not going to monetize a large following in a smart manner, then I personally wouldn't see any benefit.

      That being said, I don't think the autismo who made the OP image did anything bad. It's an extremely common stance too, but people laugh it off mainly.
      >"My OCs get less attention than my fanart."
      >obviously because people are already attached to the canon characters
      The kind of people he was talking about got offended and decided to make an example out of him by forcing a trend.

      said and if a big twitter artist said the exact same thing OP's image did all the other popular twitter artists that dunked on the guy for easy clout (ironically proving his point) would either say nothing or do a complete 180 in their opinion

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        People made fun of him because he is very dramatic, not because of his opinion.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nah a lot of the artists that dunked on him relied on the very things he was calling out
          The guy was being a giant autistic homosexual about it but let's not pretend it didn't strike a nerve, it wouldn't have become a trend otherwise

          finally i can talk about this: normies are leaving twitter and whats left are the artists. a lot of them are VERY stubborn about twitters decline, they dont want to lose their followers and fame
          even as a (smaller) artist, its strange, none of them have a plan b and it shows

          >none of them have a plan b and it shows
          yeah, ironically doing the easy trendy bullshit didn't actually help. All these guys do is either shill another shitty plushie or have to rely on their animator friends giving them handouts for work
          I think at the end of the day most of them are just lazy and didn't want to actually do the work required to make a living and hoped just banking off something easy would help. There's a reason Zach Hadel can live off of making Smiling Friends while someone like AkaiRiot still has to rely on unemployment checks/patreonbux and even then he's admitted he only makes minimum wagecuck numbers

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >say moronic shit
            >gets called out
            >"n-no he was right and everyone was mad at him"

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              lots of people say moronic stuff on twitter all the time anon, what made this any different? Even if the guy was being a moron about it, a lot of the artists that dunked on him relied on the things he was calling out so of course they probably took it personally.
              Again if a popular twitter artist that people liked shared a similar sentiment would these people react the same? No they wouldn't, they'd either keep their head down or act like they never dogpiled on the original guy for clout

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >gain if a popular twitter artist that people liked shared a similar sentiment would these people react the same?
                Robaarto

                Now have a nice day.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                that's a horrible example lmao
                no one gives a frick about Rob, that dude was already self-destructing and already had people giving him shit for being a tracer and trying to get nudes out of girls he worked with
                C'mon anon you can try better than that

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >i-it doesn't count
                the absolute state of you

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >t. seething twitter artist
                I accept your concession

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Some had sympathy.

            But it was pity, I don't know anyone who still cares for him and I don't think he ever got relevant. He just stroke a popular tweet by chance.

            Oh how brave, an artist using art to express his repressed feelings... where have I seen that before? Oh wait, most artist do that.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >not because of his opinion.
          lmao. that's literally all it was

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I am sick of the “Draw this in your style”

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nearly every Twitter art trend is fricking cringe tbh.
        It's all so desperate, even the popular artists engage in it (possibly more than the smaller ones)
        Social media has poisoned art. It has become a massive competition and results in complete prostitutedom for followers or people like the envious buggay in the OP

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I mean anyone follow trends. Make Skibidi Toilet popular and everyone will want to draw that to get cheap and quick clout.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I know it's not exactly your point but I've actually never once seen fanmade material of Skibidi Toilet, in fact the only time I ever see it mentioned at all is here

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe it's a cultural/mindset thing? Maybe if people have a "do what you love" thing it will help out. Making a living is another thing, but wanting attention is not needed to enjoy what you do. Hell, I made game mods for a 2 years and the one with the most downloads is 60 downloads. And Youtube. I suppose it's a different mindset than someone trying to become a youtuber, but I just upload my gameplay because I thought it was cool to show. No more than 20 people watch my videos. As I said, it might hit harder for someone who is trying to be an artist as opposed to someone who just uploads art for fun, but a change in mindset could help keep the suicidal thoughts out of these artist’s head.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Malin's art is so fricking unappealing I have no clue how he got 600k followers

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it's because he basically did "FOTM anime waifu but what if almost naked???" for years and now he has the lowest common denominator coomers as his main fanbase
        But if he still has to keep doing the strip game shit to the point of begging for likes/retweets he probably isn't doing good financially
        good riddance tbh, he used to be better but his art got so sterile over time

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >he probably isn't doing good financially
          Nah. His patreon is very healthy and he's had various successful kickstarters for graphic novels, sponsorships and plushes for stimulus injections of cash. Unless he's a moron living in California or New York, he's probably pretty comfortable.
          Sterile art style or not, he's extremely active, consistent, and gives his audience what they want: Cheesecakey breasts and ass. I can't even say he's betraying his passion for money because he's still getting to do those graphic novels on the side. Honestly, the guy's living most artists' dreams.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Well good for him then, let's just hope it lasts in the long term
            Can you read these graphic novels anywhere or does he make them through crowdfunding?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Seems the book (the second one was only just funded) was made for physical release, though a digital version is available on his online store, so I suppose it's possible someone has shared it. It's called Kindred Heavens if you wanna try and find it for free somewhere, but I wouldn't personally know where to look.

              >Unless he's a moron living in California or New York, he's probably pretty comfortable.
              NYgay here, California is infinitely worse off than we are
              The only bad place to live is the city, anywhere else here is way more feasible as long as you're not moronic with your money

              Yeah my bad, I always conflate New York state with just the city.
              I have heard Long Island isn't quite as bad as the rest of the city, so I imagine most anywhere else in the state is probably even more reasonable.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Unless he's a moron living in California or New York, he's probably pretty comfortable.
            NYgay here, California is infinitely worse off than we are
            The only bad place to live is the city, anywhere else here is way more feasible as long as you're not moronic with your money

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I dunno, running the hypothetical numbers even if you don't include how P:atreon and Kickstarter both take a cut of the money, it seems like he's still making the same amount as someone in a minimum wage job at McDonald's. It explains all the shilling for plushies and baiting for likes/retweets, you basically have to keep doing that even if you're popular and consistent but you're not actually making any real money on it. Plus that's assuming his graphic novels even sell well
            Credit to the guy he does seem to work hard and likes what he does but it seems like he's doing way too much for very little gain

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Social media just gives the illusion of success. Even with a successful Kickstarter that's not factoring in how much is going into printing, shipping and the percentage he takes for himself (if any leftover). You raise a good point cause the big issue is that even with those big numbers there's probably not as many buying the books or merch, that's the majorly fickle part of these followings. You could have a 10k following but nothing hits worse when only maybe 50 of that actually buy your stuff. For him it's obviously much higher but probably still not enough of that following to make a big difference.

              It's easy to draw stuff and post but WAY harder to get them to actually sell shit to them.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'll tell you a secret
        They're mostly fake bots

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      [...]
      No. He's wrong, and you're fricking dumb with him.
      Here's the hard truth, you need to actually know how to market and get familiar with a demographic to make your art and designs successful, you need to improve your skills to pander to that demographic. Don't blame NSFW artists for actually knowing the trade and reaching out to who they're trying to appeal to.

      This shit doesn't deserve attention. [...] Just looking at it's bland, it's flat, it's generic, there's no real character to this, these are characters you place on a generic cereal bag you would get a dollar store, not a cereal box, a cereal bag.

      Character design isn't as simple as, I drew a thing, shower me with praise, you need to actually work at making your characters appealing to wider audience, you need to convince the masses your characters are worth giving a shit about, even if it's as simple as appealing to base desires like "that's sexy, that's cool, that's cute" ect.

      Nobody has any obligation to give a shit about your art, you as an artist have to give them a reason to care

      it feels like the opinion is "NSFW is easy street" when it comes with its own set of hurdles and issues, it's simpler to appeal to people that just want porn but it also still requires a certain level of skill, moreso in some cases because you can't skimp out on anatomy

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I wasn't saying it was "easy" just that NSFW artists actually know what they're doing and know their audience. That is what any decent artist who wants their work known should do. Every demographic has its own hurdles, and its either your job to do that, or hire someone else to. For as much as people rightfully shit on corpos, part of why people actually flock to is the theotrical promise of them advertising your shit

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Do it the mangaka way, start out with hentai and move onto your dream manga

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >hours of time and effort

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The funny part is that it literally does take him a crapton of hours to draw something like that.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >No bg
        >Garish mismatched colors
        >Generic designs
        >Awful Pillow shading
        >No line weight
        idc how long it took its still garbage

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's what happens when you're low iq and autistic, but still want to make your dream drawing but dont have the mental capacity to do it.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Goddam, that is such a depressing existence.

            Like the ones who do art in the same skill bracket and then advertise commissions at $100 to $300, and then wonder why no one wants to buy from them.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Goddam, that is such a depressing existence.
              It really is.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              There was a guy in the MLP fandom called toxic mario that was like this too. He would make vector based art that sorta looked show style but was always off. He did streams and there you'd see him spend 10 hours a day or more trying to draw the vector art by hand with pencil first for the comic (even though MLP the show used premade flash rigs so face shape was always the same), and then he would scan those in, and then try to vector art his pencil drawings in sai which took him just as long. The final result looked like shit but one comic would take him 3 days of work. He did it from 2012 to 2019 and never improved.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >He did it from 2012 to 2019 and never improved.
                Autists can't improve. They're static for life.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's less that they can't improve and more that they're complacent. No drive, no goal, just happy to indulge in their silly little fixations.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >He did it from 2012 to 2019 and never improved.
                Autists can't improve. They're static for life.

                I think autists can improve at things, they just need guidance

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the horse show fandom has too many morons to count like animatedjames and the fluffle puff guy

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's a show for little girls. No shit.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      One of those characters looks familar.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Reg my beloved!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ro be completely honest, I can't draw for shit and it'd probably take me hours to duplicate that image.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I really hate that 90's Spielberg WB cartoon art style that artists like this guy & Andrew Dobson use.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Any artists that don’t take IRL inspirations first are cringe

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You mean artists who only directly study cartoons & manga & not IRL references?

          Agreed.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There are some artists that can perfectly imitate older cartooning styles and fill them with dynamism and energy, but that homosexual that made the "muh oc I worked so hard on :'(" comic is an adult man who wasted all his life trying to skip ahead to being able to draw cartoons and he never fricking learned to draw in the first place.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that is the most random mishmash of characters.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This whole thread has me seriously blackpilled
      I literally draw like this and it takes me hours (honestly days cuz ADHD) to do so.
      Honestly just wanna kms

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        pewdiepie managed to get good after going 30 minutes to an hour a day, what you need is self discipline, establish a new part of your home or temporary alteration to do art in and only do art there. /ic/ will give you more advice and free resources, like draw a box and loomis "Fu with Pencil", dont bother with programs and tablets for drawing, use paper and pencil first. helps with fundamentals.
        you can make it, keep in mind, most of the artists where where you are now, davinci's childhood drawings just weren't kept.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        before the thread ends: this story has a happy ending, the guy is married and the whole ordeal got him a small following that like his characters (plus he got a frickton of fanart)

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          all in all it gave him the support he was looking for, and that's fair enough

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I really hate that 90's Spielberg WB cartoon art style that artists like this guy & Andrew Dobson use.

      I love this art style like you wouldn't believe.

      This whole thread has me seriously blackpilled
      I literally draw like this and it takes me hours (honestly days cuz ADHD) to do so.
      Honestly just wanna kms

      just shut up and draw lmao. The secret to knowing if you like drawing at all is to draw and then never post it. If you don't have engagement numbers, then you'll find out real quick whether art is enjoyable for you.

      He was sorta okay drawing buildings, but he sucked at people and animals, right? I think I read that in middle school.

      I liked some of hitler's paintings.

      He was an autismo who painted extremely precise architecture and had a decent sense for color. His humans weren't awful but were quite awkward like "biblical human" paintings. He had a major problem with not properly giving his paintings a focal point, he'd often give less important areas higher contrast than the rest of the image. You can see the rest of the known examples of his art here, though in low quality: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paintings_by_Adolf_Hitler

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      im internet-poisoned to the point that all I can see here is the soijack pointing meme

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I mean it was a stupid pose

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      For being so opposed to trends his style is pretty derivative

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      if bluebottleflyer has a million fans, i'm one of them

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't even understand the point of "OCs" disconnected from any actual work. Okay, you drew an original character. So what? Use them in a story or something, otherwise who gives a shit? Characters disconnected from a story are meaningless.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Exactly, canon characters are going to get more attention on the basis that people know them more. There's nothing wrong with drawing OCs but getting pissy about your OC art not getting enough attention on comparison to a character with wider reach is moronic. NSFW art also has a completely different audience than SFW art so that shouldn't even be a point of comparison.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Exactly, canon characters are going to get more attention on the basis that people know them more
        People prefer familiar things.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's not even about familiarity, it's that OCs offer literally nothing to be interested in. I genuinely don't understand what these artists expect.

          >wow cool character design
          >thanks
          >so whats their deal
          >oh no, this is just an OC, there's no story
          >...okay

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >so whats their deal
            Most OC creators would go about how powerful this character is and how cool and tragic their backstory is and how they want to kill the setting's main hero/villain/God/whatever.

            People who got nothing to say are those that try to make OCs just cuz, without understanding it's a self-expression thing. They may be some secondary characters in some future story those people are planning, but that's it.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this, if I actually had a twitter id get a shit load of retweets with this peice of art alone. just the name of the game.

        Right, but the guy in the OP comic seems to expect some big reaction to their OC drawings, but what do they expect beyond "cool design"? Without a story there's nothing there. If you just wanna draw what you think is cool that's great, but don't whine about no one caring because there's nothing to care about.

        >Without a story there's nothing there
        Fairly true, now hes only remembered as 'the guy that made the salty whine comic. On one hand its one way to get people to actually look at this guys work to see what hes b***hing about and on the other hand, it just makes him look more like a homosexual.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >come up with idea you like
      >think it's cool
      >draw it
      >like it lots
      >draw it more
      simple as

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Right, but the guy in the OP comic seems to expect some big reaction to their OC drawings, but what do they expect beyond "cool design"? Without a story there's nothing there. If you just wanna draw what you think is cool that's great, but don't whine about no one caring because there's nothing to care about.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Oh yes, I know. I wasn't talking about OP, or popularity, only the prospect of "why make OCs"? I consider doing so a very pleasant thing and enjoy it a ton.

          I can actually speak from a little bit of experience here because I doodle stuff but never post jack shit. I have profiles and post work, but alongs with almost all of it being OC which I never expect to be popular, I almost exclusively share the bulk of what I draw with people I know only, if even them, and neither expect nor want absolutely no reception. Popularity is something which either must be earned through hard work or which is foisted on someone somewhat arbitrarily. OP's comic is just some guy seething because his work wasn't good enough, IMO not even worth thinking about because there's a million nobodies like him, myself included.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i love this guy's art but i wish he did more than just single character drawings

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        niice

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I remember this dude from /ic/! It sucks they bullied him off the board, I liked his stuff, better than the shitty anime girl scribbles everyone else made.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          why did they bully him?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They thought he was pretentious, ironically enough. /ic/ is highly toxic & think that outright insulting other artists is criticism.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              They love the shitty anime girl scribbles more than his innovation, I’m assuming

              well that sucks, i hope he's doing better now, they don't deserve him. fricking weebs man.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's also very slow, I've had more responses to my drawings here now than on that board a day ago.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They love the shitty anime girl scribbles more than his innovation, I’m assuming

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's just Ideaguys coping, or people with furry friends who don't understand their "oc" is literally an identity thing, not just a goofy mascot they keep around, but still feel pressured to follow through with a similar idea.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      OC aren't made for stories, they're made for self-expression. This is why they're indulgent, over-the-top, and tasteless because it's often literally just a combination of what the person (usually not a very developed one) thinks is cool. And this is why stuff like fanfiction about OCs has such a bad reputation because it's like trying to ride a bicycle with an awkwardly attached third wheel that isn't even round.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He does draw comics with those bugs.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People become desperate for validation, especially when online. The more ambitious a person is, the more attention they expect.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Depends on what you want, there's some artists who give zero fricks about being popular, commendable, but I don't fault people for wanting their shit seen or even trying t work it into a career so they can do that shit full time.
    The issue is gays like OP who feel entitled to an audience but aren't putting in the work to create something that appeals to the mass they're going for or find an existing audience that's receptive to their output. Even worse is this guy literally hasn't changed for years, and is the same mediocre unremarkable mascot character doing fricking nothing.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You dont need fame to make money as an artists ive done too much research on this

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've noticed cartoonist they can't draw well enough to make the kind of stuff they complain about

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Does being popular matter that much?
    It only matters if you know how to utilize that popularity. If you're not going to monetize a large following in a smart manner, then I personally wouldn't see any benefit.

    That being said, I don't think the autismo who made the OP image did anything bad. It's an extremely common stance too, but people laugh it off mainly.
    >"My OCs get less attention than my fanart."
    >obviously because people are already attached to the canon characters
    The kind of people he was talking about got offended and decided to make an example out of him by forcing a trend.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Someone make this comic edit but with hitler

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Already been done

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Canon

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Hitler in a hoodie sends off huge Clone High energy

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The crowd should be israeli.
          You know, for subtlety.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          bump

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He was sorta okay drawing buildings, but he sucked at people and animals, right? I think I read that in middle school.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I mean I like this one wikipedia put on his page.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous
        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I liked some of hitler's paintings.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >watching art stream
    >artist is pretty decent
    >only couple people in stream
    >artist ends stream because not enough people showed up
    And next time I won't either

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If i did an art stream and like 5 people showed up that would be awesome

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You could actually interact with that amount of people if you are half decent at multitasking

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It does if you're an insufferable homosexual, yes.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If he cared so little about his creation that he would rip it up, just because other people were more interested in other things, why should anyone else care about it either?

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes
    And if anyone here disagrees be sure to point them to the countless Monkey Wrench threads that shit on it for not being as popular as TADC or Hazbin Hotel.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He got what he wanted.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He got what he wanted the monkey paw way, infamy

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I mean, he was being an autistic crybaby, but he's not wrong. Twitter is annoying as frick and is a detriment to fanart, encouraging artists to draw less of their original ideas and more meme shit to get trending. Gotta draw more anime girls with fatass things in goth clothing!!! Gotta keep posting generic one-liners like "step on me mommy"!!! Gotta attract the lowest common denominator!!!
    Terrible. I can't wait for this empire of hentai-addicted zoomers to collapse.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sex sell always, dude.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        But it doesn't even feel genuine, most of it is homogenized to include a bunch of the most popular basic b***h normie fetishes with basic b***h copy-pasted hentai dialogue.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Well, yeah. If you want mass appeal you appeal to the masses. Super-niche fetish stuff definitely exists but it's not going to bring in the numbers and it's not going to be found in the stuff for general audiences. What exactly do you expect?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I expect art to be hosted on art platforms and not social media for morons.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Then you're the moron. If you want to sell or be known you go to where the people are and people use social media no matter how dumb you think it is.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And yet, a time existed where twitter wasn't the primary art platform. Don't you miss that?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Drawing is a hobby not a job

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Depends on if you make a liveable wage on it or not

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not giving money to prideless losers who draw ironic furry porn instead of working

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah, this is why I don't tip waiters.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Personally I don't tip waiters because I'm autistic and the unspoken social convention of when and how you're supposed to do that is lost on me

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't because carrying food and flashing a shallow smile in the hopes of a handout isn't a real job.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              t. seething because a macro furry artist makes more in one commission than he does in a year

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm starting to think furry artists being big money makers is a huge meme now
                I remember a while back about how a bunch of furries basically admitted most of them were broke and they have no idea how the idea that they get huge NEET/Autismbux git as big as it did
                It's more possible that whoever got big from drawing this stuff was only able to do so years ago and just disappeared when it became less profitable
                Unless someone can show proof that this is even happening anymore I'll eat my words though

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it is a meme, and tbh it kinda always was, its like how people say "im gonna get rich of youtube/twitch" and think all of them are rich when in reality its mostly a few of big money makers.
                a lot of it is to try and push more artists into making more furry porn for free because its "exposure"

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm starting to think furry artists being big money makers is a huge meme now
                It pretty much is, but it's more of a general problem with perception firstly. We only know about absurdly rich furry artists because of some very visible and noteworthy incidents. Some guy paying thousands to have his fursona drawn by some bigshot, for instance. People assume there's a massive collection of wealthy furry artists, but there's not, even with furries being suspiciously wealthy at times from their no kids, no wife, moderately well-paying IT career lifestyles. You look into how much these people are actually making monthly and it barely measures up to the kind of pay they'd get just from doing full-time minimum wage work.

                The other problem with the "just draw furry art" meme is that you have to be a furry, or furry adjacent to make it work. You can't just force yourself to become an artist and then by drying furries, instantly become popular. No one will care. No one will notice. The algorithm will absolutely do nothing do help you or recommend you to other furries. You have to have design sense and have an OC that people like, and then you have to draw them a lot, and then draw other people's OCs, and then cater to certain fetishes, and the entire time you have to actually care enough about these things to be self-motivated to want to draw them with a certain amount of skill and attention to details that someone outside the fetish community wouldn't even think about. You cannot fake it and even if you try your hardest, it still won't be worth it.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You dont have to draw anthro content, there is plenty of porn to be drawn of standard vanilla human characters, rule 34 applies to everything and hentai is still a thing

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Point still stands that "just do this hobby you have no interest in and no attachment to the community with and you'll make a ton of money!" is a fundamentally moronic idea. If you don't already want to draw weird smut or furries or whatever, you're not going to suddenly make it into your career just because one art out of 10,000 barely scrapes by doing the same thing.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >furries basically admitted most of them were broke
                poor people are often poor because of how bad with money they are. all the expensive streetware fashion that you see american blacks, white kids who like black culture and white trash, culturally descend from groups known as the celtic fringe. Borderland regions in britian where people expected to die young in war and wanted to get as much pleasure out of life as possible. Spent alot of time doing mercenary work across europe to the point most armies would have scots and irish fighting other scotts and irish.
                They all expected death soon, they would spend money as soon as they got it, would get int outrageous amounts of debt, allowed their families to grow up in squallor and even develloped the love of spicy "Devilled" food their descendants share while shocking the inland english so much theyr descendants would anything with spice and flavouring out of disgust for them.
                Fury hate comes from the same place hate for hicks, nigs, micks and chavs comes from. "Those things come from emotionally unstable, overly violent, loud, dumb, shortsighted hedonsts, better not do those things." thought the anglo.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Drawing is a hobby not a jobby

          I don't because carrying food and flashing a shallow smile in the hopes of a handout isn't a real job.

          Thankless tiresome labor, abused by management, forced to work long & random hours to make ends' meet, often doesn't come with workplace insurance. There's seldom harder jobs to have.

          I'm not giving money to prideless losers who draw ironic furry porn instead of working

          "Ironic"?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It is if you're making more than a few grand from it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It really is complicated to draw the line, because even today I find some gems every once in a while, fanarts with thick, sexy and overly squishy looking females, guys who draw in literally minutes amazing stuff that even without colors looks hot!

      And then there are examples of literally mindless homosexuals who take some of those pics and add either tattooes to just force the "muh bbc" or burn a piece of fanart to the point it looks black for the same shit, is disgusting to say the least.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Porn > Whatever non porn content people wanna make 9/10 times

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Post the dicky one.

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Popularity matters, or else you'll never properly achieve your goals as an artist wanting to make it big
    The ONLY REASON why anyone fights posts like this is because the guy complaining sucks at drawing and can't come up with a mildly interesting idea that appeals to more than just him. If it were a genuinely good artist posting cringe like this then you'd have a thousand Big Named artists pushing the guy for a week

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Bushy

    Yes. My life matters too little to be satisfied on my own.

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    not really but is kinda gloomy you take your effort and people ignore it

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    there is nothing as enjoyable as making an OC and having people love them

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    post OCs and judge them

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what kind of ocs

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not really an OC I'm just trying to figure out how to do the uglycute "I'm not even trying" style

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cute. The colors are good and I like how round her head looks

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Then why did you post it?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        actually draw a nose you fricking weeb

        [...]
        baggy eyes are op, thumbs up

        looks really weird without a top lip. maybe just thickening the line of the top lip will suffice

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >looks really weird without a top lip
          i was testing it out, idk it seems like no top lip helps with expressions (other than smiling)

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I swear I see you in nearly every thread, gotta respect that dedication to your art

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              tbh ive been avoiding Cinemaphile for a bit.. but thanks lol

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This enough of a nose?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            much better
            so much of a face's structure is based on the nose it's fricking critical to design

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I made an OC with the most liked tropes of girls
        >Baggy eyes
        >Cropped sweater
        >Big lips
        >Big hips
        >Mercenary fit
        Here she is.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I unironically really like this character, she's really abstract and weird in a pleasant way.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Thanks, I try to balance the line, especially I like (more like instinctively) drawing 'mickey mouse/sonic/bosko' type creatures.

            Also remembered I drew this too.

            • 4 weeks ago
              A fake artist

              You have art ability i dont you should learn shit like “instagram marketing” to get exposure if you want

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                For me, it's expanding my style, and learning digital. I learnded /trad/ and learning art program's are infuriating.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I bet if you practiced drawing you could draw these fast at the same quality but its good nonetheless

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This looks like a mix of Mickey Mouse and obscure European stop motion shows.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Pogo? never read the comic, but I think it has similar aspects.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous
            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It's a bit of a joke post because she is ugly in canon and actual vent art because I gave a frick about shading

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Unironically kinda lewdable. Maybe a splash of complimentary yellow on her ball crotch to diversify the design and you could be cooking.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          stop fricking your socks anon

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            She's not a sock, anon.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not really an OC I'm just trying to figure out how to do the uglycute "I'm not even trying" style

      baggy eyes are op, thumbs up

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Looks really good style wise, always love those East European dot eyes. Could just use a few more design details to tell a bit of backstory. A unique silhouette is key

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >good style wise
          its just a tweaked vault boy style, i used more angular heads, teenier eyes, longer developed bodies... but thank you!
          >design details to tell a bit of backstory
          i have WAY more art of the guy, but i kinda wanna hold back and see what other people post first

          This enough of a nose?

          she not ugly to me, looks like an old teacher of mine

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not really an OC I'm just trying to figure out how to do the uglycute "I'm not even trying" style

        You can draw

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ok

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        orange fanta! i love the right pose, would make a good charm/sticker

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          cute!

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Very professional looking. Got a good head on your shoulders

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          orange fanta! i love the right pose, would make a good charm/sticker

          thanks anons

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wtf

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A decent start

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have far too many, most with quality I deem too shit to show with file names too moronic to view

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not sure if quite considered OC but I did my own design when I played Oberon in a local production of A Midsummer Night's Dream.
      And yes. I was the best part of the play

      • 4 weeks ago
        A fake artist

        Youre an artist dont quit you have it in you

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Thank you anon
          Have some fanart

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This brought a smile to my face. I really like how you drew the colors with color pencils of all things

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You forgot to draw this man a belt.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Noted. I did end up wearing one, but a. Elegant belt and sash combo would really tie the finalise the illustration. But I drew it in 2021, and returning to old work is conflicting for me. Then again, Frazetta often changed his classics. Here's something more recent

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You should send this to Zack if you haven't. I think he'd love it

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      His name is Nico

      [...]
      baggy eyes are op, thumbs up

      I love your art style.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        cute, he looks throwable, and thanks friend

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sheep/Goat

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cutie

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        are you making a game ?!
        the art is pure kino godspeed anon

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yep a game, thanks!

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Sheep/Goat
        God damn you you know my weakness. What are you making and can I get more?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He's not really an OC, more of just a representation I use for myself to have sex with mature furry women like Princess Caroline's Mom, Nicole Waterson's Mom, and Dr. T'Ana. Hell, I've had him since 2018 and still don't have a name for him.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is the shadow witch. She lives in a dungeon and is lonely, and tries to win the heart of the hero invading her dungeon. Unfortunately for the both of them, she's completely inept in love, and doesn't know anything about what makes corporeal beings happy. Despite that, she never gives up, and is determined to make him fall in love with her.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Here's mine; Dillan, the sheep mayor. He's the mayor of a city. There's more to it.

      Likes to smoke but like the old cartoons. And also likes to participate as the host of beauty pageants for both men and women. I like to think he's secretly bisexual but just because he can enjoy everyone.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Count Chocula looking motherfricker

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >OCs are from a publicly available webcomic that’s not utterly small

      Nah

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't have any OCs to share given 90% of them are some variation of myself and overly anime-styled but it always makes me feel like Cinemaphile still has a chance when I see interesting, creative people share their hard work here. I do wish there was better content in the west out right now so that we could have better and more interesting fanart.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cyborg Priest guy

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Would be cooler with a long cassock and a cardinal style hat
        Otherwise best design in the replies by a mile

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          thanks lad

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ironically I think if you want him to read more as a "priest" I think his hat should just have one cross on it. It's a distinguishing feature so it shouldn't be too cluttered like the rest of him

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        needs bigger breasts, magi

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No bully pls

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      hello

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Perfect furry ass. No other notes

          [...]

          Thank you!

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Just asking for it.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Aren't you the one who made the rat jiggle gif

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              rat wiggle yeah

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Rattie, nice to see you again

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Perfect furry ass. No other notes

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ed Edd n' Eddy but they're a "gang" and also all 3 of them are idiots

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sounds fun. Would watch/read.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My mahou shoujo, Saria

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She just wants to vibe and sing

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Decent but, the artstyle looks like something out of Craig of the Creek (derogatory)

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >post OCs
      If we're going by the definition of characters that need an existing IP to exist in, did three girls for an anon for the Cookie game, and wew, the style here reminds me of South Park. From top left clockwise, here's Dumpling Cookie, Crowned Cupcake Cookie, and Salsa Cookie, abstractically representing the three branches of basic cookie government: legistlative, executive (purely ceremonial), and judicial (live by the sword, clang, clang!)

      What about OCs that exist in their own settings then?

      >OCs that exist in their own settings then?
      Just characters, yeah. Worldbuilding is hella intense, almost always gotta default to an aspect of Earth, best an everytown, you know, for the relatability, yee.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Just characters, yeah.
        I hang out with a ton of artists and all of them refer to the characters they've created entirely for their own gratification/fun as OCs. It's got nothing to do with fan characters.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      am I allowed to post an entire music video

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      are my ttrpg characters OCs?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, they are

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >tfw i've been in denial for years
          should i comission artist to draw my characters?

          >tfw my Seneschal in my decade long Rogue Trader game has been split into to characters for the videogame Rogue Trader so if I comission people they'll think I stole it from the game
          its not fair

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You should commission your favorites to do whatever. The world needs more art

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      95% of these replies suck

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Many will demand porn of her.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Now go make a story about her.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's an absolutely amazing picture, thank you so much. And I will, I should just invent a coherent narrative.

          Many will demand porn of her.

          Thank you for your kind words, fellow Cinemaphilemrade.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        give me my 50 exp points homosexual
        pic unrelated

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Tangle's dad would be awesome to hang around with.

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. But only to a certain extent and there is a thing as being too popular (Something increasingly obvious these recent years with all of the Parasocial issues coming to light, but that shit was always a thing, it was just rarer for people to realize it was a thing.) but at is core if you are "Popular" it means people like you (even if it is more because of a thing you do then who you are) and being liked feels good, if fill one of those, is it a pyramid? of needs sections. Being popular means you have a "pack", a "tribe", people who will cover for you when you are in trouble. In Theory anyway, but as we seen in practicality it is more complex, like with "Being Cancelled", but even then some people are so popular you can't cancel them.

    The point is, popularity matters because it is useful and one of the manifestations of power. When people like you they are more likely to act in your interest which gives you indirect power and influence.

    An example of too much popularity being bad would be that people will start making enemies on your supposed behalf even if you do not want to, and then you have to deal with that bullshit, but there is other shit, but i digress.

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No but once you get it you can decide how to leverage it

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >doing things exclusively for other people
    Why the frick would you do this? Why just do something you enjoy anyway and if it gets popular it's just a bonus?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because they really want attention and adoration.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's just a terrible mindset to have.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >doing things exclusively for other people
          Why the frick would you do this? Why just do something you enjoy anyway and if it gets popular it's just a bonus?

          It is and shows that youre not a real artist i realized that real artists just do it for fun and show it to people whenever not a big deal

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think i remember this guy not making his actual art easily accessible, like it wasn't on twitter or something
    This really comes off as whiny either way, if you want to play the social media twitter game but won't play by the rules you're only going to limit yourself
    If you're making art for yourself and have no bigger ambitions you won't always get popular

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    finally i can talk about this: normies are leaving twitter and whats left are the artists. a lot of them are VERY stubborn about twitters decline, they dont want to lose their followers and fame
    even as a (smaller) artist, its strange, none of them have a plan b and it shows

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's not strange at all when you consider there aren't any real alternatives to twitter in terms of pure networking. Twitter is fricking hot garbage but for many artists it is the best art site they have, it lets them get their work out and connect with other artists. Deviantart is fricking tanking itself, Newgrounds isn't quite there yet nor is Itaku, tumblr won't allow in the porn artists who birthed it, etc. etc. I hope twitter dies.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I hope twitter dies.
        same here, i tried every alt to twitter and theyre all shit, bluesky just now added gifs but still no tagging system (not that twitters tagging system works; if you use more than one tag its instantly hidden)

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't think Newgrounds will ever be there, the issue is ultimately that a networking site will never be FOR artists, they'll always be following where the people are so any art specific site will be bereft of normalgays for better or worse. I'm honestly surprised how most artists don't seem to base themselves on instagram. It always seems so secondary despite being an image based site, granted it's very art unfriendly and is built for phone resolution thirst pics but still it's not as twitter is much friendlier.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Instagram was made for artists
          I had some satisfaction with that app
          It worked got some attention but broke it down due to bigger ambitions

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Im so glad i left twitter

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I hope twitter dies.
        same here, i tried every alt to twitter and theyre all shit, bluesky just now added gifs but still no tagging system (not that twitters tagging system works; if you use more than one tag its instantly hidden)

        What about Instagram? I remember some artists a while ago talking about it as an option... is it at all?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Any form of social media that requires an account is a waste of fricking time unless you are a marketer.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oh DeviantArt. Your fall from grace has been a long, painful, and disgraceful one.

        It really sucks that there isn't an "artists' art site" like Pixiv here in the west. Just a site with high searchability, a functional tagging system, and easy browsing. Pixiv may not be completely perfect, but I can find a WHOLE lot more just looking on Pixiv for a tag I like then following artists who make good art relative to looking on Deviantart, sorting by latest and finding nothing, and then trying to sort through random collections to find a functional group of stuff I'm looking for. Certainly much better than searching on twitter 90% of the time (although people who don't tag their own art should be dragged out into the street and shot on all of these sites).

        I guess the other key problem is that America has the issue of NSFW art still being stupidly taboo at the payment processors' scale. I'm not one for porn myself but it's dumb that pornography is so derided at the top level here in the west. So any corporation or individual who'd WANT to try and make a functional western art site like Pixiv would have the issue of both capital acquisition and consistent monetization on hand.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >It really sucks that there isn't an "artists' art site" like Pixiv here in the west
          It literally used to be DeviantArt

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Newgrounds isn't quite there yet
        Newgrounds is almost 30 fricking years old and older than most of the other sites artists go to. At the end of the day, it's a place where you try and rub hands as much as possible with other, bigger artists. It's a site that celebrates itself and has a culture of fellating itself - the shoegaze of internet art sites.
        If it isn't there yet, it never will be.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Can't you just put your portfolio on ArtStation? Mby someone will hire ya lol

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Artstation is an AI hellscape. Anything you could possibly put in there will just be drowned out by the endless slop flooding the site.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Twitter was never popular to begin with.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah. Most people just followed a few people, liked/retweeted whatever the frick for a bit and called it a day. They weren't heavy users. Only the freaks were on that shit on the regular.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      because blue sky was a dud.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >normies are leaving twitter
      And going where? Cinemaphile?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yes or outside

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Reddit? Tumblr? Bluesky? Mastodon?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Reddit isn't really a social media website, and people are already irate with the web-browser changes made to cater to mobile.
          People left tumblr after the porn purge.
          Bluesky is a bare bones attempt at being Japanese twitter, but simply doesn't have the followers, something the Japs have complained about.
          Mastodon is the closest but has similar problems as bluesky.

          Note that I'm playing devils advocate, I'm trying not to be biased but the claims about people leaving in droves is pretty speculative considering the sheer amount of bot accounts the fricking website has.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Seriously though
            Why the frick are there so many bots on Twitter?
            Every 5th comment I get is "Pussy in bio" or some variation and I see similar on other accounts both small and large

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Personal theory is Elons attempt to remove bots just shook the hornets nest. Or maybe it's a sly way of encouraging people to subscribe to twitter blue? Every site has it but X's is on a completely different level.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Interesting

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                give her the neck fluff back

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                bugussy

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Hehehe

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thought

                Dipper never takes rejection well

                was being silly but damn the artist got Dipperized hard on this one

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Most of them are Chinese because Elon is in bed with them (despite the fact they're trying to subvert his business with their own EVs) and is trying to find people who criticize it, or are Great Firewall hoppers.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The battle between bots and websites is a continuous back and forth and the biggest open source argument you need. once a script is made to exploit a flaw, everyone can use it. Attempts to fix flaws make new flaws. Back in I think 2012, runescape did a bot nuking event, they said it would remove botting forever. they got noticeable bots back a month later.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, You can't call someone a gay without them dogpiling on you. tbh, tbh, tbh,

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why the frick do you think this site has so many screen caps?

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    And another thing. You can't obligate people to like you. This tweet-comic sounds like he deserved to be famous just because he had good intentions. When if people don't like him, they don't like him.
    Maybe if people don't like you find a different hobby or try to improve.

    >Why won't people like my art? Am I so out of touch?
    > No, is the Twitter users who are wrong.

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Like that's ever gonna happen.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      things that never happen

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      damn, sad because while yes ocs aren't everyone's favorite finding other people to mingle with about them its so fun, i dont want to be popular, just a small handful of people to talk to about art stuff would be nice

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nice filename

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >#UpliftSmallArtists
      homosexuals who say shit like this won't even drop a dollar in their tip jar and more often than not won't comment, repost, or promote, or commission anyone who doesn't already have a decent following. They won't go looking for talented artists who have been made irrelevant by the algorithm and promote them and they certain don't want to pollute their timeline with a ton of art reposts from low-skill losers crying about how they want to be a big shot that everyone adores, because that would annoy their followers and that might make them unpopular too!

      But you know what everyone likes? Seeing some big shot talk about how they think it sucks that "the little guy" doesn't get as much attention as he wants for posting shitscribbles. Everyone loves saying how much they care about the little guy, even though they actually don't and will not help him by even suggesting ways he could become a better artist or behave like less of a moron.

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Popularity counts for a lot online sure, but it's something that you have to earn. pumping out ramdom generic doodles and calling them ocs is not going to get you famous on it's own nor should it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I recognize that style

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah that artist is pretty well known and for good reason.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Popularity counts for a lot online sure, but it's something that you have to earn. pumping out ramdom generic doodles and calling them ocs is not going to get you famous on it's own nor should it.

          What’s up with her? Why’s she so sad?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            She lost her job at the canning factory and got hired as a maid

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              where can i read it?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              it's not really a full story but all the art is on their e6 page as far as I know
              https://e621.net/posts?tags=hladilnik

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >it's the same guy that did the goat devil comic
                Holy frick that's a blast from the past.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And ghost dog girl, and murder sheep, and a few others

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I hate his goddamn name because I always remember it as "Hildalink" and have trouble finding him.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I see. Why does this artist look like he makes fat art?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They don't. In fact they generally draw fit/skinny characters

  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My favorite version of this is the one where a bunch of dicks cum on him.

  35. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Now this is what actually happens, these autismos people don't quit, they keep spamming until we pay attention then they spy even more.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      IS THAT JAX AND CHARLIE FROM SMILING FRIENDS???

      >million people come flying in

  36. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >A man denied his likes and re-tweets

  37. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine this being the legacy everyone only knows you for.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Mr bug looks like a pedophile

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      bad man

  38. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Needs an edit where the dropped picture is some obscure fetish

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      floor tiles?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Paper TF

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I feel like I saw a paper tf comic recently

  39. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes
    But never EVER do what OP pic did.
    It's not about whether it's true or not (it is kinda) but complaining about internet engagement will make you look weak to others.
    That's it, really. I could go on about entitlement but most artists feel like he does, they just don't go public about it which is smart.

  40. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wasn't this homosexual the one with almost zero development in spite of being years doing his shitty cartoons?

  41. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He was right and based
    I hate Twitter nsfw artists
    I DO believe I am entitled to popularity
    I AM the main character
    I DESERVE success
    And I don't care if it's "bad"

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not with that filename.

  42. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There's a sense of validation in people boosting your work and essentially giving you a pat on the back, especially for guys like this who likely don't have any friends anyway.

  43. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Daily reminder that all porn the artists who shit on this dude act exactly the same as him. There is no one more numbers obsessed than porn artists. Especially furries.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Most of life is just shit people talking shit about other shit people tbf

  44. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    popularity on the internet is not worth it at all.

  45. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    artists, tell me. why are you guys such luttle b***hes?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you sound sad, miserable even

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        if you think i sound sadder than these validation junkies, you need to get your ears checked

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you sound like you're seeking validation for your artist hate

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i'm seeking an answer for why artists are consistently the most embarrassing people on the planet, but all i get are people (possibly) dancing around an observation that many have made

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              asking the same question over and over until you get an answer you like
              yup that sounds like seeking validation for existing beliefs

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You made it pretty clear that you are

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i'm expressing a very hard hit of disappointment after seeing the OP, you might be mistaking that for sadness. that or you're trying to deflect. stop being a b***h and maybe you'll be happy

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              the irony in your words just make your situation worse

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i've pondered your post for the past couple of minutes and you're not making sense to me. mind explaining what you mean?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >no respect for their craft, which is brutally difficult to hone/master
      >treated as "not a real job"
      >endlessly ridiculed for their profession
      >shat on en masse now that Ai is a thing
      >shat on by people that "never made it" cause they gave up immediately (like the guy in the thread), and now harbor unrelenting hate towards artists
      >treated as "gatekeepers" despise art resources never been more freely available
      >prone to schizo stalkers, parasocial behavior, doxxing if somebody doesn't like what you make, and other shit in social media
      I dunno man. It seems like there's way more cons than pros. Like what upside do they have? Besides like the couple in a million that become popular and make a good living out of it?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Get a real job you lazy homosexual.
        You sound as bad as the OP pic rel

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Case in point.
          I don't work in art anyways. Doesn't make anything I said not true.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        all of that boils down to "people say mean things" and that being their problem isn't why they're a little b***h, but what makes them one. all of the things you listed don't matter

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >>no respect for their craft, which is brutally difficult to hone/master
        The funny thing about that is that masters are people you never actually hear from.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >what upside do they have?
        the joy of creation, perhaps? how sad "artists" that don't do it simply for the joy of it must be

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      if you think i sound sadder than these validation junkies, you need to get your ears checked

      i'm seeking an answer for why artists are consistently the most embarrassing people on the planet, but all i get are people (possibly) dancing around an observation that many have made

      and Cinemaphile wonders why artgays don't come here anymore

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cause a lot of online artists are teenagers and thus more emotionally unstable. I would've probably had a few online b***hfests too if I didn't start in my late 20s.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I see artists in their fricking 30s behave like shit.
        Like

        There's outliers but you have to be mentally ill to be an artist. There's a reason so many artists have a breakdown and purge all their work and go ghost.

        said, you have to be unwell to do art

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The good thing is that the some of the most amazing things are made by autists and insane individuals. The bad thing is that they are autists and insane.

          Personal theory is Elons attempt to remove bots just shook the hornets nest. Or maybe it's a sly way of encouraging people to subscribe to twitter blue? Every site has it but X's is on a completely different level.

          Would jerk off to but not follow the artist.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        frick, you're right. i keep forgetting not everyone on the internet is the same age as me.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There's outliers but you have to be mentally ill to be an artist. There's a reason so many artists have a breakdown and purge all their work and go ghost.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this why archiving is very important. you never know if an artist goes rouge and delete their stuff

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The guys who get steady work are generally too busy to complain

  46. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This just comes off like self importance and sour grapes. You will never get an unbiased take from an artist. They all always act the victim. Because it's never their own fault their shitty bug character sucks.

  47. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Publicly crying that people aren't paying attention to you is fricking wild. Especially when you admit that you aren't doing anything to make yourself stand out.

  48. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He calls that original? And that took him hours?

    You know what I think. We should feel sorry for this guy.

  49. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    From experience I can tell you that having thousands of followers doesn't really do much for you if most of them are third world children or autistic nonbinary furries of the non-rich persuasion.

    The only real way to get stable work that isnt commission based (and lets be real, commissions don't pay bills for even most popular artists) is specifically to network with other artists who can help land you commercial gigs.

    Meeting one person who actually wants to make shit and that you can help make shit together and help steer a team with is going to make more of an impact on your financial stability as an artist than even one thousand patreon fans will.

    People really just forget that even successful artists with patreon and commissions and stuff usually live below the fricking poverty line, and really just survive for a while before burning out and having to go to a job with shit like healthcare benefits.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why does no one ever mention that those suspiciously rich furries will only repeatedly go to already big artists? I know people constantly point to furries as the easy money maker but it's really only a small majority that'll be wealthy repeat customers cause you'll probably be competing with 5 other artists who are faster that they'll throw all their money at.

  50. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  51. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How is it that everytime there's a thread on this guy It's already 200 posts deep? Must be a hot topic

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >IP counter hasn't gone up
      Hmmmmmmmm

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What IP counter?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Keep drinking the blood of the ignorant, Schindler. I know you're watching me

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          that's his OC, the IP counting wizard

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The IP counter got removed several months ago in anticipation of the elections anon.

  52. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Even as a hobbyist and not even comparing yourself to other people, reactions to art can cause frustration. You'll do something that takes you all day and no one will care, then fart out a sketch in two minutes and everyone loves it, and it's hard not to think "shit I should just post the lowest-effort stuff all the time." And if you go for quanity over quality you'll have a better chance of getting a hit because you're rolling the dice more often.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's why I use AI
      10k followers and counting

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Very impressive, now let's see the engagement %

  53. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All the good artgays went to the Murder Drones threads

  54. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've never gotten really really into anything super popular and it's not even by choice.
    Im just cursed to only really love stuff that isn't popular.

  55. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >tons of effort for a shitty bug man
    It looks like shit and gives zero impression. It's not cool, cute, sexy, sad, etc. It's as empty as some random mascot character from an obscure cartoon or anime that is more annoying than anything.
    The only way you can get away with shitty designs like that is good writing or if you are in a position to shill it to kids somehow, and even then it still takes tons of money. Of course this isn't counting luck. Part of the reason I refuse to learn how to draw is because I can visualize great things in my head but cannot manifest them into reality - I know my limits. I can do so in writing though to an adequate degree so I stay in that lane for any creative process. If you don't have both passion to learn and the talent to manifest what you learn, you are wasting your time and need to find something in which you have both or just don't do shit that you know is going to make you unhappy because no one will pat you on the back. Too many people are entitled fricks who need to learn their place as untalented plebs.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Kamen Rider Blade has spoken

  56. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I used to be really desperate for fan responses and popularity but you gotta learn to get your validation elsewhere.

  57. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I mean i guess
    You can get commissions n shit more easily . Though i'm happy that i have small following that likes shit i draw and even follows my endeavours rather than mindless bots that go there for x thing and go away

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I like the hands

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      is that hank

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, hank mr combat

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          awesome

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i just realized i follow you on ng, cool

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >have small following that likes shit i draw and even follows my endeavours rather than mindless bots that go there for x thing and go away
      I swear that any time i see some twittergay artist with 300-500k or some shit, i automatically assume only a ridiculously tiny amount of that actually give a shit about said artist

  58. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The point of art is to express yourself to the world

  59. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For artists ie prostitutes? Yes

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      poor widdle baby got his epic idea of a request rejected

  60. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You have to remember that the vast majority of internet "artists" suffer from a terrible disease known as GOTIS
    >But I thought that only infected women
    You'd be fricking suprised

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >GOTIS
      ????

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Girl On The Internet Syndrome

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ok

  61. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    he was right and everyone jumping on the #trend of #gossiping about him and turning him into a #meme only proved him right
    artists on twitter are hyper trend chasers and its honestly sad to see

  62. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Attention whoring Artgays seething
    lol post retirement plan

  63. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Being popular matters, but not too popular.

  64. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, but also no.
    Popular means you get money to keep doing what you want.
    No because the masses don't let you do what you want.
    Catch 22.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's not a catch-22. The masses "don't let you do what you want" by not giving you money to keep doing what you want.

  65. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Being popular on the internet is all that matters, I wish I was a hot girl with big boobs.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Big boobs seem like a hassle, being a girl seems not ideal, and being hot is temporary.

  66. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >2/10, wouldn't even coom to.
    thanks for at least noticing her lol

  67. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    hey, uhhh you missed mine

    My mahou shoujo, Saria

  68. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I got 5 digits followers but never had the drive to make stories, I’m content just drawing because i enjoy the process so commissions always been easy compared to some artist I know. Funnily enough the character I use as a place holder has small following.

  69. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    most big artists are more likely to stagnate and get trapped in an endless loop of frustration over their art, their followers, and their likes/rt. why bother, just drop the art and leave don't bother with playing the number game or fighting the algorithm and instead build friendships with other artists

  70. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As long as one person likes my comics, I'm satisfied.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This looks bad.
      I'm going to read your comic.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I'm going to read your comic.
        Do it, it's complete.
        https://tapas.io/episode/2534058

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      spooting rat

  71. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If anyone is still here please watch this video:

    ?feature=shared

    Is basically an animated version of this comic, granted with a very specific context but the idea stil stands there, i just feel called out honestly and really feels cathartic after experiencing what this comic caused all over twitter

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i did not expect to see self contradiction get posted in a random Cinemaphile bait thread

  72. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    only if you base your monetization on popularity
    which i do and now that i've typed that out there has to be a way to do shit like this while being unpopular

  73. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    as much of a b***h as this giy is and as much as he deserved to be shit on, the injustice of this is that there would be no backlash if a bigger artist made something like this despite being just as wrong

  74. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    for money, yes

  75. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >enjoy making OCs, coming up with backstories, combining backstories of different OCs together, etc.
    >never post 'em on twitter except to enter them in the occasional art raffle
    >commission artists who occasionally post the finished art on twitter
    >they get a handful of likes/retweets, rarely ever over 1k of either
    >still enjoy coming up with OCs and character designs
    My autism may not be good for much, but it's a peaceful life, not giving a frick what anyone else thinks.
    Here's Jingle Belle, my thick shortstack Christmas elf, made for a game of Goblin With A Fat Ass. She went undercover to infiltrate a band of goblins.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      OuttaSync?

  76. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    humanity has 3 major driving emotions,we have more influence us, but they do less than these 3
    >Fear
    >Shame
    >Guilt
    Fear's a primal one, tribal shaministic and animistic people are heavily fear driven. They do things to appease the proper spirits so nothing fricks with them. "We draw images this way and sacrifice goats to the spirits so the jungle witches dont steal our testicles in the night" sort of mentality. It's hard for us to grasp with our mechanic world view.
    Shame is an emotion to keep social approval, you dont do anything to make the group look bad. The group is above all else. without balancing emotions, things will devolve into retarted courtly politics and the most decadent shit you find aristocrats doing, with constant anxiety of fitting in. American psycho yuppies, or that time period in japan where noble women spent whole live in one room not moving and seing everyone behind screens.
    Guilt comes from the belief in objective (to you) higher powers whose morality you have to match, this allows more independant thought, morality and excellence. You dont do things for the clan/tribe, but yourself/god. Without a way out, of forgiving people who inevitably fail to live up to their morality, anxiety generated can be worse than shame.
    If you're a western artist, shame and guilt can devolve into anxiety really quick without a level of self reliance. Most of these people have relied on others for everything, material and psychological.

  77. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

  78. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What happened to this guy? Did he get to capitalize on his notoriety at all?

  79. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >WHY ARE PEOPLE LOOKING AT ALL THIS TRENDY AND RELEVANT ART AND NOT MY POORLY DRAWN SLOP???

  80. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't want popularity
    I just want a friend with mutual taste

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >a friend with mutual taste
      I’m starting to like Kuromi myself

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I want popularity so I can get published and eventually make a high concept animated series

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Get in line

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No shit I'm not the only one, that's why I want clout so the robots who publish and approve projects will be more likely to accept me. People complain about diversity ruining media, but the big algorithims that make up entertainment are really bias towards familarity and safety i.e. people with big numbers behind them

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yep.

            Sometimes I’m in awe of how Ready Player One received enough clout for a movie adaptation

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'm more in awe at how people were surprised the sequel novel was awful when the first as abysmal. It's literally like middle school levels of writing and people were acting like they were betrayed.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      All you need is very low standards

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      thats a good place to start, what are you all into?

  81. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >big artists blatantly fishes for attention by claiming no one cares about their work
    >everyone goes out of their way to suck their dick
    >small artists vent similar frustrations in their own space, since no one ACTUALLY cares about them
    >everyone goes out of their way to harass and shit on them anyway, especially said big artists
    Shit like this is exactly why I stopped respecting Twitter "artists". They forgot what it's like to be small fries and immediately turned into bootstrap boomers the moment they see other people go through the same shit.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's human nature to ladder pull
      self absorption is complete and absolute, especially for those who claim the opposite. A hateful old man just wants you off his fricking lawn. Artists pretend to be empathetic and wise as well as original (ridiculous) and important. In reality, artists turn themselves inside out for extremely little reward: even when successful no one actually 'gets' the art and always misinterprets it in the bog standard ways to serve their own insipid agendas. Artists then become even more bitter, angry, and hateful than your average grumpy old man.

  82. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically yes.
    The man saying they draw “for themselves” is like the bawd saying they dress loose “for themselves.”
    It’s EXTREMELY feminine cope and I’m glad this artist had the balls to say he wants his work admired.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. If you put your stuff out there, you want it to be seen. Very rare are you like that guy who wrote a bunch of manuscripts and buried them somewhere

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Very rare are you like that guy who wrote a bunch of manuscripts and buried them somewhere
        Well you wouldn't know that, would you?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm just being honest. If everyone has the principles of JD Salinger then egg on my face but stories are made to be told at a baseline.

  83. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How do I clout chase as a weboriginal writer?

    Dante Must Die mode: No writing isekai or LitRPG

  84. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have 100 followers, I need 1000. When I get 1000, I'll need 10,000. When I get 10,000, I actually will want 100k. When does it end?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      when you drop the "need"

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      10k or 100k, only 10% are going to interact, engagement is at its lowest rn

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fame, fortune, career. When does a career end? You're looking at this very shallowly.

  85. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He was right. You'd like to think that social media is a marketplace of new ideas and fresh content but it's not like getting a timeslot on network television, it's putting something no one is interested in in a pool of things people are already interested in.

  86. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Well this was a big bunch of nothing....again.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i dont know what you expected anon, this comic always grinds peoples gears

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I kinda liked it. The OC's were pretty good and I got some to check out in mah bookmarks

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well that was fine but I wish it wasn't under this thread, a proper OC thread should be made if it was going this route.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you attract more posters with negativity

          It boosts artists confidence.

  87. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    frick it, i'ma start drawing to see if it turns me gay. then maybe i'll understand why you guys are the way you are

  88. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    starting now

  89. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this thread sure moved fast

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you attract more posters with negativity

  90. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The new Jim Davis?

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