point to this when people say there’s superhero fatigue. people are just tired of the mcu
>crossover between popular characters is gonna do well >"see bro superhero fatigue aint real audiences are a precog unimind and they knew this was gonna be a good, quality movie just from the obnoxious trailers alone" >"please ignore the rest of their standalone projects"
Yeah, than explain Furiosa then
This alone disproves the "audiences just want good movies now bruh" meme certain people here like to spout.
The problem is really that Marvel by now has completely lost trust of the audience on their "main plot", while also having lost their most popular heroes. Ant-Man 3 was a huge mistake. But even before that, their idea of just making the movie tease random very distant future things, rather than something with immediate pay off, like the Avenger's formation was a huge mistake.
Audiences DO want "good" movies (as in movies that appeal to them). Not all good movies will succeed. Sometimes, films come out at the wrong time and Furiosa came out at the wrong time. It's a prequel to a 10 year old movie that didn't have an entry for nearly 30 years until that point. Furiosa was already a hard point to sell after releasing so long after Fury Road.
Fury Road wasn't successful either, some genres have such a niche appeal that even 5-star entries can't gain traction (Furiosa wasn't the 5 star Fury Road was).
Sometimes the path to success is just having Chris Pratt wave his hands at CGI Dinosaurs (again and again).
Adding to this, NONE of the Road Warrior movies have made a splash at the box office. Sure the original made "le 100x it's budget", but it's budget was a pallet of Foster's and some cameras.
People are fickle and these narratives about bubbles bursting are just pushed by online commentators. Viral little videos on social media are pushing this movie hard. The previous recent Marvel movies had cringey facebook ads. Watch how the narrative will change to "we're back baby, make films like this" overnight
At the same time Hollywoo goes through these boom and busts and modern Youtubers predicting it doesn't change its fate. The Superhero boom IS going to end at some point and frick me does it seem to be on the downslope since Endgame
The problem is you're assuming that normies are all invested in the perception. Normal people are fickle. A lot of the stuff people are watching has a viral quality, social media buzz, conversation points or FOMO (fear of missing out). Hence why the latest netflix true story type shit does well. This film has a little bit more buzz than others in part because of some of its social media stuff.
The problem with these grand narrative perceptions like superhero fatigue is the assumption that everyone else holds that opinion. The old MCU banked on a bunch of FOMO until FOMO turned bad... investment of time, money and effort was better with the early MCU as there was 2-3 films a year building to team ups. Now there are multiple shows/movies no team ups AND the quality is bad. A few good movies and the perception could change.
Getting people to go to the cinema at all has been a struggle in recent years and it took a viral Barbenheimer meme last year. This year Dune Part 2 really had to push "it is epic on the big screen" and even that hasn't done as well as movies of previous years.
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>Normal people are fickle
How true is this?
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A lot of normal people aren't in the same perpetually online bubbles as culture warriors or people here. Part of the reason films are doing bad is: >Cinemas are expensive. >Economy and inflation hit people hard. >Films come to streaming quicker, which is cheaper. >People have an over abundance of other entertainment like video games or youtube/tiktok or whatever. >Film budgets are too high. >No secondary market e.g. DVDs.
People said they were done with the MCU post-Endgame and yet some of the bigger hitter movies did better and the OP suggests Deadpool is on track to do better. I think a lot of normal people are not done with superheroes, not as much as they say they are. The problem is the cinema has become the big event place and you need to create a big event by more than their pitiful marketing. Word of mouth, viral influences, matter a lot to overturn people not wanting to spend money.
We'll see how much this holds up after James Gunns Superman movie comes out. Even if that's a good movie, that's likely going to at least underperform.
People aren't going to see Deadpool & Wolverine because they still love the MCU, they're going for Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynolds. Other superhero movies after this don't have any sort of gimmick going for them.
>People aren't going to see Deadpool & Wolverine because they still love the MCU, they're going for Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynolds. Other superhero movies after this don't have any sort of gimmick going for them.
Pretty much this. All that's really left for the MCU (and all that they've been doing) are, at best, C and D list characters and teams, right down to Z listers, at least to the eyes of casuals. I guess it remains to be seen if interest will come back when they get the FF and X-Men back in, but fir the last few years the super hero movies have been shit like Eternals, Marvels, Shang Chi, etc, and most don't know or give a shit about going that deep. They were already pushing it with C-listers like GotG, but they wove it in well enough, and stamped reddit humor into it so everyone stuffing their faces with popcorn just loved it and ate it up.
Yeah, this is squarely Singer and always has been. Even Deadpool's appeal comes from the tragedy of his first appearance and wanting to give the fans what they wanted.
If anything, this is just further reinforcement that X-Men gets butts in seats, not the MCU.
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>If anything, this is just further reinforcement that X-Men gets butts in seats, not the MCU.
People turned out to see Wolverine, not the X-Men.
>The hype comes from FoX-Men
The franchise that had its ass blown out by the MCU? Like, I've been done with the MCU since Endgame, but let's not pretend that the Fox X-Men franchise was anywhere near as hyped or mega successful outside of Deadpool.
It's both because the whole thing is about Deadpool and Wolverine, the only relevant FoX-Men teaming up for the first time, plus the idea that those two might get to appear in an Avengers movie with other MCU characters.
Fox-Men had 3 catastrophic flops in a row at the end of the Foxverse.
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>Think they refuse to make Lawrence Mystique blue and scaled most of the time because they wanted to bank off her image >Turns out her costume was fricking terrible anyway so it doesn't matter
Rebecca looked better than Jennifer when she was literally twice her age, I don't understand why people like Lawrence
People still give a shit about Deadpool
After that, back to floptown.
Cap 4, Thunderbolts, and yes, even fantastic 4 will all bomb or at best underperform
Dp3 also benefits from fairly low standards from fans. This film could get by easily with a 65 on rt.
This is all statistics shit to stir up positive press. They are estimating based on presales and historical data. Wait till it actually comes out to celebrate. Though OP is probably a Disney paid shill since this board has fallen a long time ago.
Maybe Disney will go back to making films people want to see instead of wall to wall garbage >bbbut Deadpool is garbage
I only saw the first one and and yes it was indeed garbage and unfunny BUT people did like it
And people liked Hugh’s Wolverine
solid flick ruined by a bad script and final act. Hemsworth was surprisingly enjoyable -- one of his better roles-- but should never be asked to make dramatic speeches. Anya Taylor Joy on the other hand got outshone by the kid actress.
As mentioned, the film suffers in the final act from what feels like a lack of real pay off as it sets up the pieces for Fury Road. Up until that point it is a lot of fun. The sets, the world building, the costume design, and the vehicles are all excellent. Overall, it was much better than I expected.
I thought Wolverine died in Logan. Or is this another multiverse shit meaning that nothing matters since there’s always going to be another variation of the same character in another universe.
>Or is this another multiverse shit meaning that nothing matters since there’s always going to be another variation of the same character in another universe.
Not like that matters since Logan was already clearly an alternate universe from the other X-men movies, and so was Deadpool
Logan was always an alternate universe from the other X-Men films (no mutants were born from 2004–2029, while Days of Future Past had tons of mutant students in the new 2023), and this Wolverine is also a variant from a different world than the X-Men films (this Wolverine somehow "let everydone down" and most/all of his friends died a year after DoFP). Deadpool, from the Deadpool films (which I personally believe to also be a different universe than the X-Men films), is the only returning character.
Being R rated might have a lot to do with it. The X-Men universe works better when they're allowed to be fricked up and violent. Back when X2 was released, people were happy Logan was stabbing people. The MCU of now is targeted to manchildren and pc women and that's why we have lame and asexual characters now. Let them frick and frick up.
why does everything look cgi/fake from the posters like in this tweet to the fricking trailers? it doesnt look like actors even showed up at any point and its all fake and gay.
It's weird right? Everything about this movie looks so artificial, like most of the film takes place in a different location and they hastily put some shit together for the trailers. I mean we already know it's building up to Wade and Logan jumping through a Dr Strange portal so it's doomed to be multiverse shit.
Endgame wasn't a very good movie, when you get right down to it. Despite all that hype, it was a bloated mess. So 3 hours of cameos and CGI won't sell nearly as much as Marvel seems to hope it will.
Truth is, they are building to a wholly different MCU Secret Wars that steals bits from the others, just like the rest of the MCU. Which is appropriate and right.
This movie ties in with the Loki Disney+ show of all things. >TVA appear in Loki. >Loki becomes God of Multiverse to save reality.
In this: >Deadpool captured by TVA and recuited like how Loki was. >Fox X-Men-verse and co end up in the void that was in Loki show (Loki got trapped there for a time). >Teaming up with another universe Wolverine. >Cassandra Nova (New X-Men, Charles' sister) villain.
Keep in mind we have no idea how long he'll wear it, or what combo we'll see between mask/sleeves. Still cool. Preordered the frick out of this one.
There's no way this is Hugh's last time as wolverine is it I feel like they would bring him back for avengers or something
He's definitely coming back for an Avengers movie. Hugh himself said as such as being one of the few motivators to pick up the claws again. Though I have to ask what appeal is left now, as the window may have closed. It's not like we'll see him fight Hulk, or bro it up with Captain America
You can take the sleeves off, and he loses the sleeves in the movie. Your autism for everything else is strong, and I wonder what it must be like to be that broken
It's not autism, it's just wrong to say it's a comic accurate costume. Especially after watching X-Men 97 where everyone was reminded how Wolverine actually looks.
The big hitters will still make money. It used to be that shit movies like the original Suicide Squad, Thor Dark World, and Aquaman could make a shitton of money. That time is over. Got to have the big names to get money.
after green lantern flopped and was cast in meandering romcoms, ryan reynolds was real close from going stragiht to dvd tier, but deadpool saved his career
Which I want to point out that Ryan gets far too much shit for Green Lantern. It was far from the worst superhero movie out there, and Green Lantern isn't a bad character/concept to begin with. He just had the unfortunate circumstance of becoming the scapegoat to a poor script
Still pisses me off that WB acts like the material was flawed when they fricked everything up with a made for tv script. Flash likely will get the same treatment, and we won't see a proper film for either in years
He's hardly the first semi-talented actor who's found "that perfect role for me" and become a mega-star because of it. Not everyone aspires to be Le Method Actor.
>Devises a way to play Van Wilder in cape movies >Literally arm-twists Fox into funding it (very little funding) >Gets free SFX from an industry buddy. >Enters the Legend, shits all over studio's other efforts on a fifth of the budget. >Disney cannot NOT add him to their franchise. >Mouse capitulates to his R-rating demands
Superhero fatigue is only when the movie fricking sucks and looks like this will be the first good one since GotG vol 3
it's almost like bigger names are more appealing to people
>crossover between popular characters is gonna do well
>"see bro superhero fatigue aint real audiences are a precog unimind and they knew this was gonna be a good, quality movie just from the obnoxious trailers alone"
>"please ignore the rest of their standalone projects"
This alone disproves the "audiences just want good movies now bruh" meme certain people here like to spout.
The problem is really that Marvel by now has completely lost trust of the audience on their "main plot", while also having lost their most popular heroes. Ant-Man 3 was a huge mistake. But even before that, their idea of just making the movie tease random very distant future things, rather than something with immediate pay off, like the Avenger's formation was a huge mistake.
>The problem is really that Marvel by now has completely lost trust of the audience
This is a Marvel movie anon.
An MCU movie using characters established by Fox, not Feige.
didnt feige work on the original xmen movies
He was a producer but he's stated he didn't have much control over how those films were executed.
oh
Audiences DO want "good" movies (as in movies that appeal to them). Not all good movies will succeed. Sometimes, films come out at the wrong time and Furiosa came out at the wrong time. It's a prequel to a 10 year old movie that didn't have an entry for nearly 30 years until that point. Furiosa was already a hard point to sell after releasing so long after Fury Road.
Fury Road wasn't successful either, some genres have such a niche appeal that even 5-star entries can't gain traction (Furiosa wasn't the 5 star Fury Road was).
Sometimes the path to success is just having Chris Pratt wave his hands at CGI Dinosaurs (again and again).
Adding to this, NONE of the Road Warrior movies have made a splash at the box office. Sure the original made "le 100x it's budget", but it's budget was a pallet of Foster's and some cameras.
GotG was good? People said it was trash.
gotg 3 was not good.
The last good marvel movie was Roger corman's Fantastic Four
Some mother frickers always trying to ice skate up hill.
there has never been Superhero fatigue is the same tired lame excuse investors make when they fail
People are fickle and these narratives about bubbles bursting are just pushed by online commentators. Viral little videos on social media are pushing this movie hard. The previous recent Marvel movies had cringey facebook ads. Watch how the narrative will change to "we're back baby, make films like this" overnight
At the same time Hollywoo goes through these boom and busts and modern Youtubers predicting it doesn't change its fate. The Superhero boom IS going to end at some point and frick me does it seem to be on the downslope since Endgame
Yet they could release a new Spider-Man or Batman film that's actually good and people could all change their minds.
It would take multiple films in a row to reverse the perception. A single movie in a sea of Madame Web isn't going to fix the perception
The problem is you're assuming that normies are all invested in the perception. Normal people are fickle. A lot of the stuff people are watching has a viral quality, social media buzz, conversation points or FOMO (fear of missing out). Hence why the latest netflix true story type shit does well. This film has a little bit more buzz than others in part because of some of its social media stuff.
The problem with these grand narrative perceptions like superhero fatigue is the assumption that everyone else holds that opinion. The old MCU banked on a bunch of FOMO until FOMO turned bad... investment of time, money and effort was better with the early MCU as there was 2-3 films a year building to team ups. Now there are multiple shows/movies no team ups AND the quality is bad. A few good movies and the perception could change.
Getting people to go to the cinema at all has been a struggle in recent years and it took a viral Barbenheimer meme last year. This year Dune Part 2 really had to push "it is epic on the big screen" and even that hasn't done as well as movies of previous years.
>Normal people are fickle
How true is this?
A lot of normal people aren't in the same perpetually online bubbles as culture warriors or people here. Part of the reason films are doing bad is:
>Cinemas are expensive.
>Economy and inflation hit people hard.
>Films come to streaming quicker, which is cheaper.
>People have an over abundance of other entertainment like video games or youtube/tiktok or whatever.
>Film budgets are too high.
>No secondary market e.g. DVDs.
People said they were done with the MCU post-Endgame and yet some of the bigger hitter movies did better and the OP suggests Deadpool is on track to do better. I think a lot of normal people are not done with superheroes, not as much as they say they are. The problem is the cinema has become the big event place and you need to create a big event by more than their pitiful marketing. Word of mouth, viral influences, matter a lot to overturn people not wanting to spend money.
We'll see how much this holds up after James Gunns Superman movie comes out. Even if that's a good movie, that's likely going to at least underperform.
People aren't going to see Deadpool & Wolverine because they still love the MCU, they're going for Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynolds. Other superhero movies after this don't have any sort of gimmick going for them.
>People aren't going to see Deadpool & Wolverine because they still love the MCU, they're going for Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynolds. Other superhero movies after this don't have any sort of gimmick going for them.
Pretty much this. All that's really left for the MCU (and all that they've been doing) are, at best, C and D list characters and teams, right down to Z listers, at least to the eyes of casuals. I guess it remains to be seen if interest will come back when they get the FF and X-Men back in, but fir the last few years the super hero movies have been shit like Eternals, Marvels, Shang Chi, etc, and most don't know or give a shit about going that deep. They were already pushing it with C-listers like GotG, but they wove it in well enough, and stamped reddit humor into it so everyone stuffing their faces with popcorn just loved it and ate it up.
I have major doubts about the fantastic four after they announced they were race swapping Mr Fantastic and gender swapping Silver Surfer.
Probably. I have no interest in seeing FF myself, I'm just point it out to another name that casuals are probably vaguely familiar with.
At least the new Superman movie is getting a ginger to play Jimmy Olsen.
>for Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynolds.
As Wolverine and Deadpool. Their non-Marvel movies don't do nearly as good.
I know people liked gotg3 but tome it was a bit of a letdown
It fet like Gunn phoned it inand was angry at disney
point to this when people say there’s superhero fatigue. people are just tired of the mcu
Are you under the impression Deadpool & Wolverine is a DC movie?
I don't recall Wolverine nor Deadpool in the MCU
That's the whole point of it, literally "Deadpool and Wolverine join the MCU: The Movie"
The hype comes from FoX-Men
Not Disney’s mcu
Yeah, this is squarely Singer and always has been. Even Deadpool's appeal comes from the tragedy of his first appearance and wanting to give the fans what they wanted.
If anything, this is just further reinforcement that X-Men gets butts in seats, not the MCU.
>If anything, this is just further reinforcement that X-Men gets butts in seats, not the MCU.
People turned out to see Wolverine, not the X-Men.
>The hype comes from FoX-Men
The franchise that had its ass blown out by the MCU? Like, I've been done with the MCU since Endgame, but let's not pretend that the Fox X-Men franchise was anywhere near as hyped or mega successful outside of Deadpool.
It's both because the whole thing is about Deadpool and Wolverine, the only relevant FoX-Men teaming up for the first time, plus the idea that those two might get to appear in an Avengers movie with other MCU characters.
>X-Men
Wolverine is the only constant people watch from X-Men
And Deadpool.
>The hype comes from FoX-Men
Kek.
Fox-Men had 3 catastrophic flops in a row at the end of the Foxverse.
>Think they refuse to make Lawrence Mystique blue and scaled most of the time because they wanted to bank off her image
>Turns out her costume was fricking terrible anyway so it doesn't matter
Rebecca looked better than Jennifer when she was literally twice her age, I don't understand why people like Lawrence
Anon, this is MCU
People still give a shit about Deadpool
After that, back to floptown.
Cap 4, Thunderbolts, and yes, even fantastic 4 will all bomb or at best underperform
Dp3 also benefits from fairly low standards from fans. This film could get by easily with a 65 on rt.
stfu moron
Not an argument
This is all statistics shit to stir up positive press. They are estimating based on presales and historical data. Wait till it actually comes out to celebrate. Though OP is probably a Disney paid shill since this board has fallen a long time ago.
Maybe Disney will go back to making films people want to see instead of wall to wall garbage
>bbbut Deadpool is garbage
I only saw the first one and and yes it was indeed garbage and unfunny BUT people did like it
And people liked Hugh’s Wolverine
Summer box office has been saved
>New movie has biggest box office openings
Yeah no shit, currency has inflated to frick.
A loaf of bread also costs the most it ever has.
Yeah, than explain Furiosa then
Do prequel movies usually do bad?
No, they arent
First Class did worse than the original trilogy. So, yeah.
What is there to explain? Inflation doesn't magically stop flops from flopping.
>In 30 Year
Mad Max is not popular.
People don't want to watch a Mad Max movie without Max in it, duh.
I mean, nobody watched the first Mad Max because it looked like a small indie film shot in a weekend in Australia.
Mad Max 1 was the most successful independent movie of all time until Blair Witch in the 90s. It made like 100x it's budget back.
solid flick ruined by a bad script and final act. Hemsworth was surprisingly enjoyable -- one of his better roles-- but should never be asked to make dramatic speeches. Anya Taylor Joy on the other hand got outshone by the kid actress.
>solid flick ruined by a bad script
HUH?????
As mentioned, the film suffers in the final act from what feels like a lack of real pay off as it sets up the pieces for Fury Road. Up until that point it is a lot of fun. The sets, the world building, the costume design, and the vehicles are all excellent. Overall, it was much better than I expected.
Movie barely got advertised. I only saw one trailer for it all year months before it came out.
LEAKS NOW! Please
I thought Wolverine died in Logan. Or is this another multiverse shit meaning that nothing matters since there’s always going to be another variation of the same character in another universe.
>Or is this another multiverse shit meaning that nothing matters since there’s always going to be another variation of the same character in another universe.
Not like that matters since Logan was already clearly an alternate universe from the other X-men movies, and so was Deadpool
Logan was always an alternate universe from the other X-Men films (no mutants were born from 2004–2029, while Days of Future Past had tons of mutant students in the new 2023), and this Wolverine is also a variant from a different world than the X-Men films (this Wolverine somehow "let everydone down" and most/all of his friends died a year after DoFP). Deadpool, from the Deadpool films (which I personally believe to also be a different universe than the X-Men films), is the only returning character.
All it takes for Deadpool to finally pass Christ as the highest grossing R-Rated film domestically is teaming up with Wolverine
Phase 4 and 5 are the best, everyone seems to agree. I trust Disney and I’m only seeing this for Loki. I love the MCU
another money laundering vehicle for disney. be surprising if it breaks even in reality.
>2 A-list heroes
>2 A-list actors
>Crossover
Are people surprised?
Being R rated might have a lot to do with it. The X-Men universe works better when they're allowed to be fricked up and violent. Back when X2 was released, people were happy Logan was stabbing people. The MCU of now is targeted to manchildren and pc women and that's why we have lame and asexual characters now. Let them frick and frick up.
Really weird how Superhero Fatigue only started when the Avengers went diverse and they replaced all the cool superheros with blacks/asians/women.
Crazy how this movie his looking like a billion dollar blockbuster hit even tho all the marketing is about two white guys.
Its almost as if the fatigue is about n
*ot having popular marketable celebrities as the stars.
Sorry, my post got cut off.
It's like the more they try to make things diverse, the worse the writing gets
Like writing a good or, at bare minimum entertaining, story ceases to be the point
why does everything look cgi/fake from the posters like in this tweet to the fricking trailers? it doesnt look like actors even showed up at any point and its all fake and gay.
It's weird right? Everything about this movie looks so artificial, like most of the film takes place in a different location and they hastily put some shit together for the trailers. I mean we already know it's building up to Wade and Logan jumping through a Dr Strange portal so it's doomed to be multiverse shit.
>doomed
What this is building to will make Endgame seem like small potatoes box-office-wise.
No one gives a shit about Secret Wars and it hasn't been built up successfully post Endgame
Endgame wasn't a very good movie, when you get right down to it. Despite all that hype, it was a bloated mess. So 3 hours of cameos and CGI won't sell nearly as much as Marvel seems to hope it will.
IF they keep postponing it, you will be right
They're not even building to that Secret Wars, they're building to the bad one from the 2010s because that's the multiverse one.
Truth is, they are building to a wholly different MCU Secret Wars that steals bits from the others, just like the rest of the MCU. Which is appropriate and right.
This movie ties in with the Loki Disney+ show of all things.
>TVA appear in Loki.
>Loki becomes God of Multiverse to save reality.
In this:
>Deadpool captured by TVA and recuited like how Loki was.
>Fox X-Men-verse and co end up in the void that was in Loki show (Loki got trapped there for a time).
>Teaming up with another universe Wolverine.
>Cassandra Nova (New X-Men, Charles' sister) villain.
>Zeb Wells writing credit
Ehhhhh
Deadpool 1 = 6 / 10
Deadpool 2 = 3 / 10
Deadpool Volvo = Not watching it
I strongly dislike Ryan Reynolds
I'm just happy we're finally getting a proper suit
Frick yeah
Keep in mind we have no idea how long he'll wear it, or what combo we'll see between mask/sleeves. Still cool. Preordered the frick out of this one.
He's definitely coming back for an Avengers movie. Hugh himself said as such as being one of the few motivators to pick up the claws again. Though I have to ask what appeal is left now, as the window may have closed. It's not like we'll see him fight Hulk, or bro it up with Captain America
>no blue trunks
>sleeves
>tacticool stripes instread of painted stripes
Nah brah
You can take the sleeves off, and he loses the sleeves in the movie. Your autism for everything else is strong, and I wonder what it must be like to be that broken
It's not autism, it's just wrong to say it's a comic accurate costume. Especially after watching X-Men 97 where everyone was reminded how Wolverine actually looks.
There's no way this is Hugh's last time as wolverine is it I feel like they would bring him back for avengers or something
The big hitters will still make money. It used to be that shit movies like the original Suicide Squad, Thor Dark World, and Aquaman could make a shitton of money. That time is over. Got to have the big names to get money.
after green lantern flopped and was cast in meandering romcoms, ryan reynolds was real close from going stragiht to dvd tier, but deadpool saved his career
Which I want to point out that Ryan gets far too much shit for Green Lantern. It was far from the worst superhero movie out there, and Green Lantern isn't a bad character/concept to begin with. He just had the unfortunate circumstance of becoming the scapegoat to a poor script
Still pisses me off that WB acts like the material was flawed when they fricked everything up with a made for tv script. Flash likely will get the same treatment, and we won't see a proper film for either in years
total reddit victory
Ryan Remolds is now an A-list actor this is the timeline we live in.
He's hardly the first semi-talented actor who's found "that perfect role for me" and become a mega-star because of it. Not everyone aspires to be Le Method Actor.
>Ryan Remolds is now an A-list actor
Always was, champ
>Devises a way to play Van Wilder in cape movies
>Literally arm-twists Fox into funding it (very little funding)
>Gets free SFX from an industry buddy.
>Enters the Legend, shits all over studio's other efforts on a fifth of the budget.
>Disney cannot NOT add him to their franchise.
>Mouse capitulates to his R-rating demands
Hey
As long as its not WE WUZ KANG, and instead Beyonder that's actually behind Secret War, i'm fine with it