>don't worry, I have expert advice to help you be a better salesman
>you know how you sell stuff? well, sell more of it
>also drink less coffee idk
Why did boomers idolise motivational speakers like this? They're just a bunch of frauds
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>Why did boomers idolise motivational speakers like this? They're just a bunch of frauds
Coming from a generation that's largely anti-work, you're opinion almost means nothing on the matter.
*your
Guess we found out whose opinion really almost means nothing here, buddy.
Auto-correct might not be my friend, doesn't matter, I make my six-figures doing blue collar work that puts me in an actual house.
You live in an overpriced broom-closet, just so you can call yourself a city-gay, and complain you have to 'work' at all to make YOUR unrealistic ends meet.
Bro, you already made a typo. Just take the L instead of making up these weird fantasies about me.
the fact that the ONLY thing you got on me was an auto-correct failure to argue against my point, and you call it an L?
>Thinks so little of his own posts and/or is so lazy that he fails to look them over properly and lets autocorrect make him look like a complete fool
It says a lot about your character. More so when you continue dismissing it, arrogantly blathering on, and even begin concocting fantastical scenarios just to belittle other anons instead of admitting to your blunder and showing some humility.
>I'm right because I'm a good goy and follow all of Mr Shekelsteinberg orders
And again, I live in a house and make six-figures for listening to Mr.Shekelsteinberg's orders.
You're jobless, living in a trailer burden by 5 kids you had with your sister and cousin, using a Nazi flag for curtains because you're too broke to shop at Wal-Mart.
I live in two houses and make seven figures while not following Mr Shekelbergestein orders.
Sounds like you lost, homeh.
So you have two trailers...gotcha
>t. shekelberg's favourite goylem
if only the movie had incoporated that message into its themes in some way.
Because often people just need a little motivation to do what they already can. They just need a little push. Knowing how to motivate people into doing this can often be as valuable as actually doing something
Boomers were so lazy that they literally forgot to work a lot of the time. They had to be reminded what their job was.
>first prize is a cadillac
>second prize is a set of steak knives
>third prize is you're fired
Did boomers really reward their employees by firing them? That doesn't seem like a reward at all!
The ones who died in the initial blast were the lucky ones.
I've worked multiple sales jobs that play this clip as motivation oblivious of the rest of the movie.
Let's be honest, 90% of this board has only seen this scene too. Including me.
I haven't even seen the scene tbqh.
I have never seen a movie. I'm just here for the troony hate threads
You should switch it out for a copy of the Boiler Room scene where they watch that scene.
That happened to me once. I thought they would acknowledge the irony in only showing this scene but they didn’t. To me, that just means the person who played the clip and whoever organized the orientation were too lazy to come up with a motivational speech of their own.
I’m so shit at sales it’s not even funny.
I haven't seen the movie. Is Baldwin's character 'right' or does the movie give a more uplifting message?
No, Baldwin's character wasn't right. One character complains that he was given weak leads. Baldin says that's bullshit and he's just a weak salesman. We later find out that he was telling the truth. The sales manager gave him the leads to a couple of crazies because he personally didn't like that salesman. He was set up to fail.
I don't think Levine got the bad lead on purpose it's more that's all they had to give at the time. Williamson tries to give Roma Ramidan Patel and fricking Shiva gave this guy a million dollars and said "sign the deal" he wouldn't sign.
No, they were set up to fail. They were going to fire all but their 2 best sellers and wanted to put them in one last rat race
The point of the film is how capitalism exploits masculinity by convincing you to take shit jobs making other people rich because it makes you "tough"
Baldwin's message is motivational, but the real purpose was to gloss over a layoff announcement
Roma knew the leads were weak and so did everyone else. He could have gotten the crazies randomly, the point is that they were never removed from the pile even after they got a bounced check from them months ago
I worked as a coldcalling telemarketer and this was another great scene
I could never sell to a Patel. They were the worst. Not because they were rude, but because they'd waste your time spending 30 minutes asking questions and then NEVER CLOSE. In fact a lot of 1st-gen immigrants were like this.
It was better to get cussed out on the phone right away because at least they wouldn't eat up time on the clock
There were also the occasional elderly person that had nothing better to do than string you along because they were lonely and had no one to talk to but salesmen. Which is fine but again, they'd never close or agree to let a rep come to their house, or cover up the fact that they didn't own their home
(I was selling solar panels btw)
Williamson only knew that the crazies were nuts because he'd run into them previously working at another firm not while working for Mitch & Murray. Roma seemed shocked they signed but even he thought they were legit
>They were going to fire all but their 2 best sellers
I like that in the end they're left with Roma and George. Their best and worst salesman
George's fate always reminded me of this.
How do people get leads?
Like nowadays you could potentially use some ML on a potential customer database purchased from another company vs previous sales to determine the most likely customers to pursue.
But back then? What did they do? Did someone just cold call a bunch of people to determine who is interested, then pass them onto the actual pressure salesmen?
Did they do analytics on phonebooks by postcode?
Like the one client in the movie explained, his wife filled out a card at the mall to enter some sweepstakes for a new car and they've been inundated with salesmen ever since
Prior to the internet every single contest that begged you to fill out and send a postcard with your personal info would profit by selling the data. They could also access realtor data to see who recently bought or sold a homes, match it with the phone book. And yes, sales companies would build profiles of the people they talked to, so even if they couldn't sell them a timeshare they could sell the profiles to other companies selling different products.
Example, Nickelodeon tells you to fill out a postcard with your name, address, phone number and age to win a trip to Orlando studios. You do this even though you're 9. They sell the data, and as a result Gillette send you a sample razor when you turn 16.
>Why did boomers idolise motivational speakers like this?
not any different from the guru movement or the modern MRA/PUA/health food morons midwits crave ethos for their moron brains
confidence is catnip to boomers. they genuinely do not care at all if you're actually good at anything, but if you act like you're good at something, they will pave your way with literal gold. they like illusions.
>let's keep the good leads locked up and not used (because it's not like there's a time component to how hot a lead is)
>let's give out intentionally bad leads as a joke
What did they mean by this?
Every time a lead is approached by a salesmen they're far less likely to listen to another one selling the same product. The lead gets "burned" if one guy's pitch fails to convince them, they've made up their mind and a better saleman won't be able to change it later.
Hence they only want their best guys making the 1st impression. Again, they're paying money for customer information that's new, accurate, and within their metrics (income above a certain level, homeowner, someone on medicare etc)
>Hence they only want their best guys making the 1st impression
Yes, so you give the leads to your best guys ("downtown" since this was just a crappy office), you don't keep them locked up in said office filled with losers so you can not use them
They had only just gotten the leads, and they probably only cover a certain zipcode, which is why they have offices in different locations.
The men he's talking to are caught in a pyramid scheme. Of course he's a fraud you dumb dicklick.
It's not a pyramid scheme. They're selling worthless real estate to gullible boomers. It was a trend that emerged because a bunch of worthless swampland in Florida suddenly became valuable because Walt Disney bought it up to build his theme park in Orlando. A bunch of grifters emerged from that saying "this land in Shithole, LA might be the next Orlando! Don't miss out!" Not at all a pyramid scheme. They're salesmen.
Never thought I'd be nostalgic for newly formed volcanic land mass in Hawaii pamphlets.
We all live in the hell of our own creation.