It was a widely loved and popular show. Stop trying to rewrite history just because you don't like John K. He's not the only one who worked on the show.
>In 1993, Nickelodeon agreed to a two-year contract with 20th Century Fox to make feature films. The joint venture would mostly produce new material, though a Nickelodeon executive did not rule out the possibility of making films based on The Ren & Stimpy Show, Rugrats and Doug. >None of the movies were produced due to the 1994 acquisition of Paramount Pictures by Nickelodeon's parent company, Viacom.
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1350&dat=19930607&id=gldPAAAAIBAJ&pg=2074,1837600&hl=en
Sounds like one may have been briefly considered at some point then quickly scrapped.
Doug and Rugrats had stability. R&S had controversy and production issues throughout it's lifespan on Nick. R&S also had no concrete narrative to build a film on.
>Spongebob
Series finale where Plankton finally wins and Spongebob ends up proving that he's mature enough to be manager of the Krusty Krab
>Rugrats
1st one is Tommy getting little brother, the 2nd one is the normal "babies doing wild stuff when the adults aren't paying attention" that would make up the B-parts of old Rugrats episodes, but now they're on a vacation
>Wild Thornberries
Eliza does the one thing that makes her lose her powers and the entire movie is her proving that she deserves them again
>FOP
Timmy makes a wilder than normal wish or the established series villains do something that takes more than 11 minutes to resolve
Unless is was a Space Cadets movies, the only way I could see them doing a Ren and Stimpy movie would have been modelling it after the Looney Tunes movies were its preexisting Ren and Stimpy cartoons with a newly animated framing device to tie them together.
The point is that all of these shows save wild thornberries (I barely watched it) are episodic and wacky in nature like Ren and Stimpy is, don’t impact the ability of a movie to have a longer, grander storyline, and continue as normal after the movies are made. If fricking Beavis and Butthead can get one of the best animated films ever made then the cat and chihuahua can at least get something decent.
With Ren & Stimpy being the MOST episodic of them. The whole premise of Ren and Stimpy was that you were watching a weirdo 50s style variety cartoon show. You can't get a serious plot out of Ren & Stimpy; the show literally went out of its way to shit on that idea with the Stimpy's Fart episode.
Well, John K. originally wrote Ren Seeks Help for season 2, and if there was anything supposed to be funny in that episode, it was funny only to him.
Otherwise IMO it feels like a sort of deconstructive wrap-up of the show’s basic premise (Ren breaks up with Stimpy once he finally cracks, reflects on how he turned out the way he is, gets locked up after murdering Mr. Horse).
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as a teenage edgelord I thought it was pretty funny, and along with fire dogs 2 one of the only episodes in that run that wasn’t terrible
the same way they did it for Spongebob, Rugrats twice, Wild Thornberries, god knows how many times for Fairly Oddparents, etc.
Give them something to do that takes 90 minutes.
>Spongebob
Series finale where Plankton finally wins and Spongebob ends up proving that he's mature enough to be manager of the Krusty Krab
>Rugrats
1st one is Tommy getting little brother, the 2nd one is the normal "babies doing wild stuff when the adults aren't paying attention" that would make up the B-parts of old Rugrats episodes, but now they're on a vacation
>Wild Thornberries
Eliza does the one thing that makes her lose her powers and the entire movie is her proving that she deserves them again
>FOP
Timmy makes a wilder than normal wish or the established series villains do something that takes more than 11 minutes to resolve
Unless is was a Space Cadets movies, the only way I could see them doing a Ren and Stimpy movie would have been modelling it after the Looney Tunes movies were its preexisting Ren and Stimpy cartoons with a newly animated framing device to tie them together.
What would a Ren and Stimpy movie be about?
The point is that all of these shows save wild thornberries (I barely watched it) are episodic and wacky in nature like Ren and Stimpy is, don’t impact the ability of a movie to have a longer, grander storyline, and continue as normal after the movies are made. If fricking Beavis and Butthead can get one of the best animated films ever made then the cat and chihuahua can at least get something decent.
The biggest throughline across most of Ren and Stimpy's stories involved Hollywood or a money-making scheme in some capacity. A film plot would be simple: make a get-rich quick comedy of errors inspired by classical films. Although knowing John, he could've just pulled an Airplane and made the Ren and Stimpy movie a remake of some obscure 50s comedy.
If anyone is confused Paramount now has completely different management and the head of series development is a late gen X/early millennial dude who has a boner for MTV stuff which is why we’re getting the R&S reboot show, more Beavis & Butt-head, Clone High, Daria etc.
Rugrats was one of their most successful shows and it was Disney who put out the Doug movie, because the Rugrats movie did so well in theatres. This was 1998 and 1999; Ren and Stimpy had LONG since stopped production.
Movies take so long to get going that usually by the time they get past the year+ of development it takes (before even starting on the script/board in earnest) shows that are popular enough to warrant considering a movie have passed their peak popularity and starting to decline so execs get cold feet.
Would have to do some research and math but I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that more TV cartoons have had movies announced than have actually been produced.
In R&S’s case though I doubt any progress was made with how full John’s hands were just trying to finish episodes and not get fired
moronic shit for 90 minutes ala Beavis and Butthead Do America and the Aqua Teen movie. Concept could have been a classic if done in its heyday, but there is a 0% chance John K could’ve handled it.
Nobody likes this trash, neither it's author.
It was a widely loved and popular show. Stop trying to rewrite history just because you don't like John K. He's not the only one who worked on the show.
At it's time it was loved, now it's really just dumb kiddy shit.
I think it holds up well, still funnier than most cartoons
it was not very good
slash thread
It would never make its release date. John can't commit to a deadline for shit.
tpbp
well hello Guy, or are you Spumshot?
>In 1993, Nickelodeon agreed to a two-year contract with 20th Century Fox to make feature films. The joint venture would mostly produce new material, though a Nickelodeon executive did not rule out the possibility of making films based on The Ren & Stimpy Show, Rugrats and Doug.
>None of the movies were produced due to the 1994 acquisition of Paramount Pictures by Nickelodeon's parent company, Viacom.
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1350&dat=19930607&id=gldPAAAAIBAJ&pg=2074,1837600&hl=en
Sounds like one may have been briefly considered at some point then quickly scrapped.
Doug and Rugrats had stability. R&S had controversy and production issues throughout it's lifespan on Nick. R&S also had no concrete narrative to build a film on.
How the frick would you stretch a Ren and Stimpy plot into a ninety minute film?
the same way they did it for Spongebob, Rugrats twice, Wild Thornberries, god knows how many times for Fairly Oddparents, etc.
Give them something to do that takes 90 minutes.
>Spongebob
Series finale where Plankton finally wins and Spongebob ends up proving that he's mature enough to be manager of the Krusty Krab
>Rugrats
1st one is Tommy getting little brother, the 2nd one is the normal "babies doing wild stuff when the adults aren't paying attention" that would make up the B-parts of old Rugrats episodes, but now they're on a vacation
>Wild Thornberries
Eliza does the one thing that makes her lose her powers and the entire movie is her proving that she deserves them again
>FOP
Timmy makes a wilder than normal wish or the established series villains do something that takes more than 11 minutes to resolve
Unless is was a Space Cadets movies, the only way I could see them doing a Ren and Stimpy movie would have been modelling it after the Looney Tunes movies were its preexisting Ren and Stimpy cartoons with a newly animated framing device to tie them together.
The point is that all of these shows save wild thornberries (I barely watched it) are episodic and wacky in nature like Ren and Stimpy is, don’t impact the ability of a movie to have a longer, grander storyline, and continue as normal after the movies are made. If fricking Beavis and Butthead can get one of the best animated films ever made then the cat and chihuahua can at least get something decent.
With Ren & Stimpy being the MOST episodic of them. The whole premise of Ren and Stimpy was that you were watching a weirdo 50s style variety cartoon show. You can't get a serious plot out of Ren & Stimpy; the show literally went out of its way to shit on that idea with the Stimpy's Fart episode.
Well, John K. originally wrote Ren Seeks Help for season 2, and if there was anything supposed to be funny in that episode, it was funny only to him.
Otherwise IMO it feels like a sort of deconstructive wrap-up of the show’s basic premise (Ren breaks up with Stimpy once he finally cracks, reflects on how he turned out the way he is, gets locked up after murdering Mr. Horse).
as a teenage edgelord I thought it was pretty funny, and along with fire dogs 2 one of the only episodes in that run that wasn’t terrible
The biggest throughline across most of Ren and Stimpy's stories involved Hollywood or a money-making scheme in some capacity. A film plot would be simple: make a get-rich quick comedy of errors inspired by classical films. Although knowing John, he could've just pulled an Airplane and made the Ren and Stimpy movie a remake of some obscure 50s comedy.
They were going to make a road trip comedy movie during that time when they made the new Rocko, Hey Arnold and Zim movies but it got canned
Source?
https://exclaim.ca/film/article/ren_and_stimpy_movie_pitch_rejected_at_paramount
If anyone is confused Paramount now has completely different management and the head of series development is a late gen X/early millennial dude who has a boner for MTV stuff which is why we’re getting the R&S reboot show, more Beavis & Butt-head, Clone High, Daria etc.
Nickelodeon hated it and hated working with John K. By the time they got rid of him and left it to Bob Camp they were done pumping out movies.
Rugrats was one of their most successful shows and it was Disney who put out the Doug movie, because the Rugrats movie did so well in theatres. This was 1998 and 1999; Ren and Stimpy had LONG since stopped production.
Movies take so long to get going that usually by the time they get past the year+ of development it takes (before even starting on the script/board in earnest) shows that are popular enough to warrant considering a movie have passed their peak popularity and starting to decline so execs get cold feet.
Would have to do some research and math but I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that more TV cartoons have had movies announced than have actually been produced.
In R&S’s case though I doubt any progress was made with how full John’s hands were just trying to finish episodes and not get fired
Movies announced and then cancelled, I mean
It actually got greenlight, John's just still making it
What would a Ren and Stimpy movie be about?
moronic shit for 90 minutes ala Beavis and Butthead Do America and the Aqua Teen movie. Concept could have been a classic if done in its heyday, but there is a 0% chance John K could’ve handled it.
John K wanted a live action R&S movie with Al Pacino as Ren.
one of the directors did make Madagascar, so there's that
not a Spumco eps director tho. That would've been too good. He directed some Games eps
John K. was too hard to work with