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It was good up until the third season. What's Pen's next project?
>Bravest Warriors
>Pen Ward
All he really did was create the original pilot. I don't recall him having anything to do with the full Cartoon Hangover series aside from voicing a computer on the Bravest Warriors' spaceship in one episode. Now that The Midnight Gospel is confirmed cancelled, I don't know what the guy will be doing next.
>It was good up until the third season.
Which coincides with Breehn Burns being replaced as showrunner. It's about the time they killed the comics, too.
>Breehn Burns being replaced as showrunner
Why? Was he too busy with something else at the time?
Had his concept for season 3 rejected and he moved to dreamworks within the year.
oof, do we have any idea what some of those rejected ideas might've been?
YouTube Trend chasing TicTok for short content
Considering the success of this and other CF shows for that small 4 year window of time, the experiment was something of a positive thing. But YouTube pulling the rug from under people pretty much sealed its fate. In another world, BW had a strong finish that everyone enjoyed on YouTube and people would remember fondly.
this. Iirc it was even uploaded on that official nintendo video service on the 3DS.
I get all the other Adventure Time stand-ins, except for Wallow. Which AT character is he?
the big black brute in the 5 man band
it's always non-blacks who like this trope
None of them are AT stand-ins, but Wallow is somewhat a stand-in for his VA Ian J.
lol shut up kid
this.
Wallow is just fat Effnocka
What comic is that from?
https://www.octopuspie.com/2008-04-25/137-souffle/
Eff-nocka
>never seen again after laser tag arc
Marigold
>practically becomes a main character, is almost unrecognizable by the end
Puget Sean
>sporadically shows up as a punching bag
Funny how that shook out
>never seen again after laser tag arc
Yeah, I wish that Eff-nocka would've been in more arcs but I'm not surprised he was only there for a brief stint. Ian and Meredith were SVA friends and she probably wanted to boost his work but Octopus Pie ended up outlasting NockForce anyway. I wish Ian and Meredith would collaborate in the future though.
>practically becomes a main character, is almost unrecognizable by the end
Yeah, but I think she latched onto Marigold in later years and ended up elevating her to the main cast. Maybe it's because she put a lot of her into the character? Marigold practically shares the same nickname as Gran in real life.
>Puget Sean
>sporadically shows up as a punching bag
Never really liked him anyway but yeah, he kinda got the shit end in the comic. The panel where he sleeps in the rain was not even his lowest point, in my opinion.
At least Will and Eve got a decently happy ending though.
Hannah looks and kinda acts like a lost Katie Rice character to me
the nockforce expanded universe
Is it time for people to finally admit that character designs in this art style are really boring?
It was going well until YT suddenly pulled funding without notice.
Youtube was also the reason the show even lasted as long as it did. It only started going wrong when Youtube Red flopped and YT started axing shit to make up for the loss, leaving the team creating Bravest Warriors to have to shop around for years for another network to pick them up.
>YouTube Red
The show wasn't done for YT Red, but it would've helped to make it an exclusive. Channels get more ad revenue from Red IIRC.
I can't believe these were the only two Cartoon Hangover pitches to just barely make it out alive.
What about Bee & Puppycat?
That amounted to a troubled Kickstarter and some sequel series that's been in limbo for whatever reason. I'd hardly call Bee and PuppyCat "alive."
>an actual bikini as opposed to a one-piece
I thought those were outlawed these days...
does anyone have a non-vitiligo edit?
Pussy.
Vitiligo is this generation's equivalent of heterochromia, a character trait that adds nothing to the design and is only used to make a character more "unique and special".
All these artists are trying to do is normalize a fairly common skin condition. They were being very casual about it with Cass, too, so you can't say this was all in an effort to "make her design more special."
Cass has vitiligo. That's it. No need to make it a bigger deal than it is.
In fairness, I've seen plenty of people on Tumblr just treat vitiligo like its a thing you can add to a character to make them "quirky yet relatable", like making your character fat and giving them stretchmarks. That anon isn't wrong to say people use it that way.
Having known someone with a pretty severe version of it, She sure as hell didn't want people drawing attention to it. That said Cass seems to be a case of doing it "right" in that it's there but doesn't define her
shut up troony
At least they have the decency to put it on her legs which can be covered. Her brother straight up has two different eye colors.
Lemme crack out the photoshop
Cass is cute! CUTE!
What did you all think of the leaked season finale? Personally I wasn’t really a fan.
Season 2 got leaked in 2020 by Fred seibert himself of all people
Who is he in relation to the show? An animator? Writer?
Company owner
People where disappointed by the end product.
Goddamn Frederator's dumb 2014 pastel-tumblry looking shit did not age well.
Yeah, would have been a shame if we had missed out on this
Hard core gay sex would have been less homosexual than this god damn
Catbug's the star of the show. Whenever Catbug's not on screen, all the other characters should be asking, "Where's Catbug?"
I always kind of felt Bravest Warriors and Bee and PuppyCat were overrated. Were people just that starved for more mature animation at the time?
Now this shit right here was the coolest thing to come out of Cartoon Hangover: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Siiov36YXs
Smallbu bless everything they touch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXbDu4Hh8Bo
Wish they didn't delete some of their earlier animations.
I liked Bee & Puppycat's pilot but I hated the series. It's kind of like PPG vs PPG 2016; what made the original so great was it's cutesy stuff was mixed with somber, melancholy themes, hints at lore, and genuinely unsettling monsters, while the series was just 100% cutesy stuff 100% of the time.
I fricking hate Adventure Time and Steven Universe including the first 1-2 seasons.
But I enjoy Final Space and Star Trek Lower Decks.
What kind of writing can I expect out of Bravest Warriors?
Something closer to Adventure Time and Steven Universe. So it starts out with general adventures and merriment, delves a bit into more eldritch horror before immediately doing a backflip off into the love triangle dropzone and cracking its spine on the pavement of "social commentary" and "refuses to have a satisfying conclusion".
Basically, if you watch it, don't bother watching the fourth season, it's the worst of Adventure Time and Steven Universe combined.
Yeah, it wasn't, but if I remember remotely right Youtube Red going under meant a lot of other channels that were being given funding as part of Youtube experimenting with new directions to take were conveniently given the boot at the same time as YT Red being downplayed, and Cartoon Hangover was one of the victims of it
It was so fun, why did it have to degrade so fast?
The company missed out hard on not making a Adventure Time movie when it was at it's height. Not sure what they have going besides the female fanfic version of AT for HBOMAX.
Isnt this the show where two lesbians cuck the main guy?
I don't think YT was the sole purpose the show sank. they were also experimenting with having cartoon hangover be it's own 'channel' where you get first access a week before and then the show went to YT. there was a lot of product first, show second (look at Bee and Puppycat) as well.
It didn't die because it was on youtube, when it was it was super popular, it died when its new seasons became exclusive to that shitty american only streaming website
So, what was everyone's feeling on Bravest Warriors anyway?
First and second season were considered good for web animation iirc. Third season is more debatable on its quality because that's when the love triangle shit started going heavy. But general consensus was that the fourth season sucked ass, in both animation and writing quality.
yikes
I didn't like the odd asspull to make Beth horny for Danny and that's around where I fell off because the show started going through its bullshit
the problem was being dependent on youtube issuing free grant money instead of getting sponsors or a patreon
Back when they produced Bravest Warrior not only Youtube was giving creators funds for their projects but the monetization system allowed short cartoons to make money.
The not only youtube removed their funds but also made them impossible to make money out of adds.
Sex with Cass.
I wish to comfort the Cass.
I want her to comfort ME. She can be the Big Spoon.
She's a cutie
Is she going to hump that pillow?
>What's Pen's next project?
Coasting on voice work and one off episode writing, if anything at all; I can't find him attached to any upcoming projects.
Are there even any options of keeping the rights/creative control over your show if you pitch to a network?
Whatever the hell sugar did
If you get it published in some other form like a book or (in some cases) webcomic
IIRC Danny Antonucci pulled some kind of magic that allowed him to retain nearly full creative control of Ed, Edd n Eddy. I haven't actually looked into the details of that, but it's something I've seen brought up time and time again.
>They're friends because they have the same name
I've had something similar where I had a small casual group of friends because my name is towards the end of the alphabet and most kids I went to school didn't share the same letters as my last name.
if what i remember is correct:
antonucci got to keep everything related to the EEnE IP because he produced the series at his own studio in Canada to take advantage of tax credits given to Canadian productions. all of this required that the IP remain in Canadian control. CN was OK with this as it meant they got a cartoon on the mega cheap
EEnE never took out any Canadian funding. It was all paid for by CN.
Whatever happened to Bee and PuppyCat anyway? I remember there being tons of hype behind it years back, but now it's even more irrelevant than Star vs.
They made an entire second season after the first one tanked because of VRV, but it got leaked when the Frederator CEO uploaded the whole thing to his Vimeo. Supposedly it’s being released on Netflix, but then having the whole thing ready to go and doing nothing with it for years doesn’t exactly speak well to their management.
Did anyone ship them?
Little bit. At this point I wouldn’t be surprised if it ever gets an ending, that Puppycat returns to his original form and hooks up with her.
How would Puppycat sex be?
Satisfactory.
Blame it all on the studio deciding to release the season exclusively on a streaming site that’s US only during a time when VPN’s weren’t widespread
heh
I remember season 1 was pretty good if kind of awkward, and then season 2 felt like it whiplashed for me so I stopped following it.