Dune 2

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Will you frick off about this garbage movie.
    Even the book was shit.
    Frick off shill

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Calm down, man.
      Why you so aggressive?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because I’m tired of homosexuals like you posting this type of shit in Cinemaphile. Do you even stop for a second and think that perhaps we have talked about this flick enough? This isn’t a homosexual worship board. Timothy Chalamet isn’t a sex symbol so quit trying to make it happen. He’s a skinny little twink and I could kill him if I wanted to. I could literally pick him up and ragdoll him. It’s fricking disgusting that Hollywood keeps spitting out little homosexuals like him. He’s not even attractive to go along with his twink physique. Sylvester Stallone wasn’t attractive but at least he was ripped. I couldn’t pick Stallone up even if I tried my hardest to. He would probably beat the shit out of me.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >crying about timmy out of nowhere

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not reading all that shit

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You are the angriest homosexual I’ve encountered in awhile.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          dunebros, did we lose?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          should've ended with
          >and don't even get me started on Zendaya
          then all the replies would've been "Based"

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        his sexuality is being attacked, see

        Because I’m tired of homosexuals like you posting this type of shit in Cinemaphile. Do you even stop for a second and think that perhaps we have talked about this flick enough? This isn’t a homosexual worship board. Timothy Chalamet isn’t a sex symbol so quit trying to make it happen. He’s a skinny little twink and I could kill him if I wanted to. I could literally pick him up and ragdoll him. It’s fricking disgusting that Hollywood keeps spitting out little homosexuals like him. He’s not even attractive to go along with his twink physique. Sylvester Stallone wasn’t attractive but at least he was ripped. I couldn’t pick Stallone up even if I tried my hardest to. He would probably beat the shit out of me.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because I’m tired of homosexuals like you posting this type of shit in Cinemaphile. Do you even stop for a second and think that perhaps we have talked about this flick enough? This isn’t a homosexual worship board. Timothy Chalamet isn’t a sex symbol so quit trying to make it happen. He’s a skinny little twink and I could kill him if I wanted to. I could literally pick him up and ragdoll him. It’s fricking disgusting that Hollywood keeps spitting out little homosexuals like him. He’s not even attractive to go along with his twink physique. Sylvester Stallone wasn’t attractive but at least he was ripped. I couldn’t pick Stallone up even if I tried my hardest to. He would probably beat the shit out of me.

      You're pathetic.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      based. I enjoy the book and all of the adaptions but pretending dune is the pinnacle of scifi and has to be taken seriously is so gay

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ÖÖÖÖÖRRRRYYYYMMMMM
      BIMBULIBUM

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ÖÖÖÖÖRRRRYYYYMMMMM
      BIMBULIBUM

      What a waste of digits too. Filtered, found out to be so dumb as to not understand why that story is incredible, and just plain homosexual.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Dune 2 SUCKS. It does not even show how many times per day the fremen take a shit or how the Bene Gesserits wipe their ass. Do Frements take hard shits or runny shits? what is their fiber intake like? immersion completely ruined. villeneuve is a hack and i cant believe people like this shit

      • 4 weeks ago
        f

        I would assume that runny shits would be a water crime and anyone who dared have runny shit would be put to death.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's shit because it focuses on the absolute least interesting, most pedestrian crap ever : paul and chani's relationship. Herbert didn't care about this and from the way people talk about this movie no one else does either. Cut 90% of those shitty scenes and insert some of the missing plot points instead. Also don't make any of the Fremen "atheist", nothing was gained there.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Also don't make any of the Fremen "atheist", nothing was gained there

          I'd argue its more interesting for them to have different beliefs, if all of them thought the exact same way it would be unrealistic and far less interesting in my opinion.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I'd argue its more interesting for them to have different beliefs, if all of them thought the exact same way it would be unrealistic and far less interesting in my opinion.
            They're meant to be mudslime, think about how they deal with apostates.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I mean it shouldn't just be a 1:1 duplicate of Islam, and I mean its not like there are no devout believers in the whole movie, or that no one is converted. It might be that Chani knew Paul far more personally, and could see how the power was affecting him, making her more difficult to be persuaded into believing the prophecy like the rest of the Fremen.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I mean it shouldn't just be a 1:1 duplicate of Islam, and I mean its not like there are no devout believers in the whole movie, or that no one is converted. It might be that Chani knew Paul far more personally, and could see how the power was affecting him, making her more difficult to be persuaded into believing the prophecy like the rest of the Fremen.
                The problem is that destroys the message of herberts work, the entire point is behind it is about systems and how they relate to humanity, how they are abused by bad actors, how sometimes they're traps.
                >So I quoted the First Law of Mentat at her: 'A process cannot be understood by stopping it. Understanding must move with the flow of the process, must join it and flow with it."

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well I don't think it cheapens that message, like I said most of the Fremen still believe, and those who don't are nearly all converted, so having one person who doesn't doesn't lessen its effect, and in many ways emphasizes and builds upon the original story's themes in a more interesting way

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Well I don't think it cheapens that message, like I said most of the Fremen still believe, and those who don't are nearly all converted, so having one person who doesn't doesn't lessen its effect, and in many ways emphasizes and builds upon the original story's themes in a more interesting way
                The problem is that the additional story goes nowhere and isn't interesting. You can't do anything with that plot thread, Paul even says he's seen that she comes to understand, so what's the point?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well it influences how she broke up with him and emphasizes Paul's darker turn towards the end of the movie.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Well it influences how she broke up with him and emphasizes Paul's darker turn towards the end of the movie.
                No it doesn't. Paul has to do what Paul sees by his prescience to stay alive he's literally trapped by multiple systems if he doesn't want to die, if anything trapped from the moment he links up with the Fremen at all. The other future is one where he dies but the Fremen create a Jihad in his martyred name. He never turns "darker", nor does he abuse power the movie tips certain things into near stupid territory due to villenueve having no real foresight about how he's going to clean up his dangling plot threads with a main character that can literally see the future, because villenueve is a moron.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                okay maybe my usage of 'darker' is incorrect, more he's just seemingly becoming more uncaring and inhuman to Chani, which I think is understandable, also calling Villeneuve moronic is kind of moronic

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >paul and chani's relationship. Herbert didn't care about this and from the way people talk about this movie no one else does either.
          I mean, a focus on the Paul/Chani relationship could work ... IF you get some really good actors, who have great chemistry with one another, to play them.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I loved it. Don't care what gays here think

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yes

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Watching it tomorrow. The last movie for which I'll spend $100 for 4 tickets

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    its definitely better than the slop the usually give us. in a typical movie i absolutely hate all the good guys. I respected all the characters in this movie. Even Zendaya's . i say "even" cause she plays a character that we see in every hollywood movie.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah. Its pretty good. I really enjoyed it. Preferred it to part 1. I've been a fan of the books and Lynch's dune for decades and I was happy with it.

    Don't let the autists and spergs put you off

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Movie of the decade so far.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Liked part one but part two was mostly garbage.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Liked part one but part two was mostly garbage.

      "Ah, so Part Two of Dune was like the disappointing sequel nobody asked for? Let's hope they don't make a trilogy out of it, or we might need a sandworm to swallow our disappointment whole!"

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >that good
    it's not any kind of good

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Psh, yeah, the 6hr (and yet still ends on a cliffhanger, somehow) perfume commercial starring two teenie bopers who can’t act directed by a frog cucknadian who made a good cartel film once is truly the scifi epic of our time.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >who can’t act
      timmy debunked this in part 2

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Him giving the mad dictator speeches did temporarily bump the film up from a 5/10 to a 7/10, but they were very brief.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's called being ugly

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There we points in the movie where they running and I couldn't tell her and Paul apart, imagine that.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no
    It's a passable scifi wrapped around a grating teen romance
    Watch the Sci Fi movies instead

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cinemaphile meme’d me into watching this. It’s worse than trash. And this is coming from someone who doesnt like the newer flicks.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Watch the Sci Fi movies instead
      what does that mean

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        he means the sy fy mini series

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          wasnt it sci-fi at the time?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      hello sirs

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yes
    its a very good scifi with great visuals and soundtrack
    watch it in the cinema

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    tron was a big ducati commercial and it worked, i want one

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah
    I wasn't too impressed with part 1. But this one exceeded my expectations and actually makes the first a much more enjoyable rewatch as well.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You have to watch in the theater, otherwise it will be shit

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. That being said, it's not perfect. I saw it for the second time yesterday, and noticed some really weak editing.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's prime midwit schlock.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's good, but it's not great, 7.5/10, great visual spectacle, atmosphere and cinematography are top notch (though it has some bad CGI), mediocre story/characters, but no one watches Dune for that. Lacks a bit of soul/emotions.
    I watched it in IMAX, so I would be inclined to give it 8.5, but when I factor that out 7.5 is more objective.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >mediocre story/characters, but no one watches Dune for that.
      You idiot. If you had read the book you would realize that is one of its strengths.
      >But dey only watch da movie for da spectac-
      Dont care. There would be bo opportunity for spectacle without the overarching story.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I enjoyed part 2 more than part 1

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      same, more action i guess
      also they amped up the production and showed a lot more detail in jsut about everything from setpieces to story

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Literally looks like wojak lmfao

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I enjoyed part 1 more than 2, but it's not by any meaningful margin. I want to see them back to back.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I rewatched 1 the night before. Got me hyped for 2. I'm less hyped for 3 now. 1 was better.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Doesn't use the word to paralyze arena fighter
      >Doesn't use poison in fight with Paul
      Why did they hide his treacherous nature and even make seem honorable?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They even made his power level higher and got 2 stabs at Paul.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It was cooler this way. I know cause I'm cool

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i liked it

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nope. 1 was better.

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >they included on the poster that fanfic character that served no purpose other than being Chani's smug, c**ty friend
    kek

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    One of the best theatre experiences I have ever had.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I liked Oppenheimer more, saw both in theater
      Dune lacks soul

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Its solidly mid and I disliked the first one

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I didn't like the ending, Chani's supposed to be understanding that what's going on is bigger than her.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I'M ACTING

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        God Zendaya really should stick to marvelshit

        >amazing lighting and set design
        The sets were literally stale "brustalist" empty rooms for the most part, and lots of CGI for outside views.
        And the whole thing was notoriously underlit for the most part.

        That was only really a thing for Geidi Prime. Most of the Arakeen architecture was more similar to what you'd see in Morocco and Tunisia and the Emperor's Palace felt more Northern European.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >more similar to what you'd see in Morocco and Tunisia
          >more Northern European.
          That's a stretch. It was all minimalist empty shit.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ok ma'am. Whatever you say.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        PAUL

        PAUL USUL HOW DARE YOU UNIFY MY PEOPLE WITH A NEW UNWAVERING CONVICTION AND DELIVER US FROM OPPRESSION AND EXPLOITATION. HOW DARE YOU LEAD US TO VICTORY AGAINST THE GENOCIDAL MANIACS THAT HAVE TORMENTED MY PLANET SINCE BEFORE I WAS BORN. YOU ARE A PALE OUTSIDER, USUL. IT IS WRONG AND PROBLEMATIC FOR YOU TO DO THESE THINGS.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          AYO I DON'T BELIEVE IN DAT SHEEIT

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Would you accept some random homie as the savior of your race?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            She accepted him inside her pussy.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            if that homie started speaking classical english and lead a extremely successful race war against other homies than yeah

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous
          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >disdainful of your ancestors

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              mutts hate their own existence
              they want revenge for being born

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Somehow the feminist people think women acting dumb is empowerment

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's great, but ironically it seems to have suffered from having a lot of Sietch Tabr stuff cut out in favour of more action and Zendaya. Obviously, it's nowhere near as butchered as Lynch's film was, but still, it seems impossible to escape the Dune adaptation curse.

    I don't really mind that Alia and the continuation of Chani's relationship with Paul are being relegated to Messiah, because they're much more important to that story than they ever were to the first book.

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not a bookgay (I unironically have only watched Lynchdune and parts of the miniseries) but I think the movie is flawed to a point where I think if Messiah happens it will be dogshit unless Dennis hires a better writer.
    >>Pros
    >amazing lighting and set design
    >sound fx and score were well done
    >Austin Butler as Feyd and Florence Pugh as Irulan were better than i expected
    >>Cons
    >cutting entire sections of the story that are extremely important as to WHY Paul drank the water of life and allowed the jihad to happen
    >making a significant portion of the plot focus on Paul and Chani's romance being some shitty 2000s high school romance while also cutting the fact that they had a kid who got ganked by Sardaukar bombings
    >no Fremen orgy funtimes
    >cutting child Alia and her killing the Baron out of the film. This alone almost ruined the movie for me.
    >not enough Lea Seydoux (or at least her not getting naked)
    >fricking up the Paul v. Feyd knifefight
    Honestly it's probably the best we could've gotten out of modern Hollywood, but it goes to show that Dune isn't unadaptable due to the material but because studios are utterly moronic and refuse to make true 1:1 adaptations of anything.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Also I just realized the co-writer of DUNC, Jon Spaihts, also helped write pic related.
      No wonder this shit was fricked from the beginning. He also wrote Passengers which was also fricking terrible.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The writers of Prometheus are still allowed to work?!

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It effectively killed off Lindelof's career but somehow this guy squeaked off cause his name was too unremarkable to remember.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >It effectively killed off Lindelof's career
            are you moronic? no it didnt he went on to make The Leftovers (kino), Watchmen (shit), Mrs. Davis (kino) and a bunch of other shitty movies

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i love how prometheus is still filtering morons 12 years later

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          explain

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >not enough Lea Seydoux (or at least her not getting naked)
      just about the only thing i agree with of your cons

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Don't worry, she's in the next Carax

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >fricking up the Paul v. Feyd knifefight

      Please elaborate

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They cut Feyd trying to use the poisoned spur.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Who cares. It was the best part of the movie.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It was a great knife fight. Good choreography, having no music somehow helped the tension, just a shame about the ending. Even my dumb ass could tell he was going to use the knife in his body. Really spoiled the other guy supposedly being such great fighter/killer.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Feyd-Rautha in the books is a bit of a spoiled gladiator. He's accustomed to using shields and fighting drugged slaves. What makes him threatening in the final fight is his use of the instant killing poison

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >What makes him threatening in the final fight is his use of the instant killing poison
                Which is why Paul getting wounded in DUNC is such a massive failure on the director's part.
                Maybe it's because the final fight in the book was already somewhat of an hommage to Hamlet, and Hamlet does get wounded in his fight against Laertes? So Villanova wanted to go all the way? But then he should have had Paul die, like Hamlet died.
                He might as well have, considering that Villanova had already completely rewritten everything.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >failure
                What is it that's so hard to get in the concept of adaptation?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What's so hard to get about "if it isn't broken, don't change it"?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Adaptation bro you gotta make choices and that fight details is quite irrelevant to the rest of the story

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >gotta make choices
                >that fight details is quite irrelevant
                So why add something in, like Paul getting wounded? Just leave it out. No conflict with the book, no increased runtime. Win win.
                Yould it be that Villeneuve just changed random shit for no reason other than his own vanity? Could it be that he fundamentally misunderstood what an adaptation is about? Or has he simply not read the book in years and just scraped something together from memory?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't care, I read the books but I'm not a book autist.
                The fight was okayish although the ending was a bit obvious.
                Regarding the whole film I'm more concerned by how disarticulate it is with tacked on characters. The Chani/paul dynamic isn't good, the big fight is weirdly underwhelming and the quips are cringey

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They did not cut that you moronic tiktoker

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Florence Pugghy
      She's a big girl

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        She's a little piglet, actually.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >amazing lighting and set design
      The sets were literally stale "brustalist" empty rooms for the most part, and lots of CGI for outside views.
      And the whole thing was notoriously underlit for the most part.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Deakins is the only one that knows how to work with Denis' fetish for brutalism

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Deakins generally likes it clean, and structured and straightforward. In a way, Villeneuve's autism is a good fit for him, even though to Deakins it must feel like switching to easy mode.
          Still think that Villeneuve's lack of creativity hurts films like his Blade Runner.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >to Deakins it must feel like switching to easy mode
            I still don't get why he didn't just call Roger in that case. A lot of the night scenes in Dunc look downright amateur.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              For some reason Villeneuve cannot stick with one cinematographer. He changes them after every other project, at the very least.
              I think it also might have to do with him not being a auteur who manages the projects from start to finish, but more of a director-for-hire, where the studio also hires everyone else.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm curious where they'll go in the next movie if it deviates much
      I read the book and the houses decide not to wage war because of muh spice (hence Paul threatening them with nuking the spice production) but in the movie they outright start a war there and then
      I haven't read the book in ages so not sure if I missed something that made it excludable from the movie, just seems a pretty big thing to not include kek

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why did Paul jihad them if they decided not to wage war? Because he could?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >cutting child Alia and her killing the Baron out of the film. This alone almost ruined the movie for me.
      i guess they didn't want a big timeskip? this was one of the weirder changes

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Are just on a different branch bros?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, the one with all the rotten apples.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >tfw we're gonna have the more brutal timeline play out in Part 3
          I wonder how so though, more deaths than the 61 billion?

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It feels kinda weird that my first experience with this universe was that porn game

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What was the point of Feyd Rautha? They were hyping him up but he was kind kinda there.

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Frick no. The first one was better; 4chud lied to me.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cinemaphile has been shitting on Part 2 since it came out. The frick are you talking about?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Part 1 preferers RISE.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Part 1 preferers RISE.
        Of Skywalker?

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Watched it twice on IMAX with my brother, we both loved it and I can't stop saying "Lisan al Gaib" unironically.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He's so beautiful bros.

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just watched it, it's total garbage.
    had to laugh for most of the second half because the plotholes and "we teaser shit 10 times, every time more obvious than the one before, so that every moron gets it" was just so unwillingly comedic

  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >book and film try to subvert Paul and his hero's journey by mocking the idea of prophecy and faith
    >Paul's accomplishments are so fricking awesome and his believers are so passionate and sincere that any attempt to deconstruct him falls completely flat
    I was converted before the credits even rolled, bros.
    LISAN AL GAIB.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Felt this aswell - the liberal cuck morality of the filmmakers compels them to turn Chani into some disapproving c**t which they seem to think will be enough to sway the audience, but in reality the awesome satisfaction of seeing Paul obliterate everyone who fricked with him is way too powerful, and any red-blooded young man will come away from the film feeling fired up to wage based jihad

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        One of Denis' biggest mistakes was using Chani and her ugly friend as the mouthpieces of his liberal atheist views. They're supposed to be presented as rational and wise, above the silly, backwards faith of old men like Stilgar. Instead, they came off as b***hy and smarmy as their characters would be in the real world, complaining about achieving the goals they've worked towards for years because they got done by someone they don't approve of. The sorts of people who'd rather have everything go to shit than admit to being wrong. Not to mention the whole "tough girl" archetype has been steadily losing its appeal these last few years, audiences are probably sick of characters like Chani.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          But they need to keep showing a close up of her ugly scowling face to remind everyone what's happening is BAD. Having her fricking face be the very last shot felt like a joke.

          I think we saw more of that than any 'love' between the characters.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Denis can shove in as many shots of Chani’s ugly mug as he pleases, I still want to Jihad in service of the Madhi.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Makes me wonder about 'Messiah'. Are they gonna kiss and make up? Is she gonna get preggers? I hope they don't and Alia becomes the God Empress of Dune instead.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                All bets are off for DUNC3. Villeneuve has completely fricked over the whole story at this point. He might as well adapt some Brian Herbert shit.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But he really hasn't. He is most likely taking the Peter Jackson approach and relegating certain events from the first book to the other movie

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >But he really hasn't.
                He has, completely, fricked over anything to do with Alia, Chani and Jessica. There's no coming back from that.
                Just like DUNC1's treatment of Liet Kynes fricked up Chani in DUNC2, and missing half of Yueh and the political plot fricked over Thufir in DUNC2. Villeneuve is a compelte hack, and the sooner you accept that, the more disappointment you can avoid in the future.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I have seen dune 2 in imax twice and I'm going again on Wednesday. I cannot be disappointed in films because I don't watch stuff I don't like. I enjoy villagenooboo and his movies just like I enjoy wim Wenders and his. Learn to enjoy the ride, it's more fun that way

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I enjoy villagenooboo and his movies just like I enjoy wim Wenders and his.
                That makes no sense whatsoever.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I enjoy kino slop as much as I enjoy arthouse slop. It's slop all the way down. I'm also glad I didn't read the book because then I'd be seething at one of the best duologies in forever instead of getting excited to see it every week

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're overdoing it with the bait.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's not what they're doing at all. If you paid attention, Paul tells his mother, "She'll come to understand, I've seen it." She's upset in the moment but if you have the IQ of at least a dog you'll realize that she'll understand soon (in Messiah)
          Media literacy is dead and Cinemaphile posters constantly remind me of this fact

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            screencapping your post

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        One of Denis' biggest mistakes was using Chani and her ugly friend as the mouthpieces of his liberal atheist views. They're supposed to be presented as rational and wise, above the silly, backwards faith of old men like Stilgar. Instead, they came off as b***hy and smarmy as their characters would be in the real world, complaining about achieving the goals they've worked towards for years because they got done by someone they don't approve of. The sorts of people who'd rather have everything go to shit than admit to being wrong. Not to mention the whole "tough girl" archetype has been steadily losing its appeal these last few years, audiences are probably sick of characters like Chani.

        But they need to keep showing a close up of her ugly scowling face to remind everyone what's happening is BAD. Having her fricking face be the very last shot felt like a joke.

        I think we saw more of that than any 'love' between the characters.

        >muh liberals
        >zero media comprehension
        Chani is conservative. She wants to protect her people's way of life. Nowhere does she say "oh think about all the people who will die." She clearly and repeatedly only expresses concern for the Fremen and their way of life.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Mahdi subverted the subversion by being totally fricking based. As written.

  35. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Well ... just don't expect it to have anything to do with the original Dune. Don't expect it to have colour either, or good acting, or good cinematography, or good soundtrack.
    It's pretty much capeshit at this point, filled with pointless poorly-choreographed action scenes. And thanks to IMAX, it's really big and really loud. If that's your thing, you'll love it.

  36. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yeah

  37. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I really like it overall, but I didn't like Zendaya in it. She has zero chemistry with Timmy and is poorly written. I also feel like Denis isn't fully commited to the weirdness of Dune, an example would be not having Alia be born. The books get more and more wild as they go on, and Alia is entry level batshit.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She really is the worst part of the film.

  38. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    DUNC 2 is a better film overall than DUNC 1, but DUNC 1 has better individual standout scenes than DUNC 2

    Pic related scene is still the peak of all DUNC

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Pic related scene is still the peak of all DUNC
      It's a fricking meme. Nothing else.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Relaxing ASMR to comit warcrimes to

      ?si=T4C-A9wwzzLgD1ck

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      AND A SIDE OF FRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Art imitates life.

  39. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Colonialism bad.

    Natives good.

    Wives are manipulators.

  40. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why are they so scared to say jihad? the muslim/middle eastern influence isn't exactly subtle

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Theyre not muslims.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They're inspired by muslims.
        Well, in the book they were. Not sure what they're inspired by in DUNC.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          BIPOC

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Everyone's calling them space Muslims now anyway.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If the Fremen are the Muslims, does that make the murderous and land stealing Harkonnans the israelites?

  41. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Denis taught me that you can become Kwisatz Haderach, Lisan al-Gaib, and Emperor of the Galaxy, but still end up a single chud.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A chud maybe, but betrothed to a hot princess who is willing to do anything as long as you don’t hurt her dad.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >a hot princess
        Hot? What's so hot about fugging a pig?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I thought Florence looked nice in the movie. Better than Zendaya for sure.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous
          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Better than Zendaya
            Anything looks better than Zendaya.

  42. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    PAUL

  43. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For a movie with such strong word of mouth, it has barely made a dent in the box office

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      IMAX literally rat out of seats at one point, the movies is doing amazing

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > IMAX literally rat out of seats!!

        The only locations that have sell outs are the 12 70mm IMAX theaters on the planet. Everywhere else it's walk up and buy a ticket.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is pure cope, it did double the first film's weekend opening (over 80 million)
      Just because it doesnt make as much as your heckin yummy Avengers films doesn't make it a box office failure

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It won't make it anywhere close to the billion you and your fellow redditors were projecting before release.
        It won't even reach 800K as the studio had hoped.
        It won't cross 700K as you said it would right after the opening weekend.
        It will break even with maybe a bit more than 600K, but that's it. Not a flop, but not a success either. Just like part 1.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I never claimed it would make a billy, you would have to be delusional to think that
          But its doing better than BR2049 and Dunc 1 at least, so good for Villeneuve
          >600K
          600 million, you mean?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I never claimed it would make a billy
            The boxoffice subreddit did. And not just in fringe opinions.
            >But its doing better than BR2049 and Dunc 1 at least
            That's not saying much. It needed to do better, considering it had a much higher budget.
            >600 million, you mean?
            Yeah. Sorry.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > it did double the first film's weekend opening!

        Shutdown. Same day release to streaming.

        > but!

        Got beat by Kung Fun Panda 4 last weekend. Gets beat by Kung Fun Panda 4 this weekend. Gets beat by Kung Fun Panda 4 and Ghostbusters next weekend.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Got beat by Kung Fun Panda 4 last weekend.
          Not a fair comparison. KFP4 is acually good. It has everything that DUNC2 does not have.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Enjoying your animated slop, aren't ya piggie?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >animated slop
              Half of DUNC2 is "animated slop". Which will age way worse than KFP4.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                People will forget KFP4 by the end of the year, so in a way you could be right.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >People will forget KFP4 by the end of the year
                People haven't forgotten KFP 1 to 3. Children love that franchise, they'll fondly remember it all their lives. And the animation is heavily stylized and will always work.
                DUNC2, on the other hand, has terrible CGI that already looks like it's from a bad video game. Ten years from now it will be seen like the Star Wars prequels are seen now.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It seems like everyone disagrees with you, this movie is getting massive acclaim and everyone I know is talking about, KFP4 was a mediocre movie in a great franchise that most would rather forget.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                KFP is beating DUNC at the box office right now. Second week in a row.

                The CGI in Dune is state of the art. The prequels had bad effects when they came out.

                >The prequels had bad effects when they came out.
                Imagine being this clueless. How old are you? Ten?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Avatar 2 beat Everything Everywhere All at Once and Top Gun: Maverick at the box office, but I'd argue they've had a far larger cultural impact. It also certainly hasn't surpassed the gross of Dune 2 at the moment and has far worse reviews from users and critics.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I'd argue they've had a far larger cultural impact
                >shills EEAOO
                >shills American military propaganda
                >shills DUNC2
                You're /r/eddit personified.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How is saying they've had a larger cultural impact shilling them?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >saying they've had a larger cultural impact
                EEAAO had NO cultural impact whatsoever. It was literally just a stupid niche comedy filled with childish /r/eddit meme-humour, that got a minor publicity push after winning an Oscar.
                And Topgun Maverick wasn't even about anything. It's just your typical cult movie sequel. It was popular, but also ultimately forgettable.
                As for DUNC (1&2), barely anyone cares about them.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My point wasn't that they changed the industry or that they were even good, just that they had far more impact than Avatar 2 regardless of how much more money that movie made, also saying no one cares about the Dune movies is downright ridiculous, this thread and all of the positive reviews disprove that, no matter how much you dislike it

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >they had far more impact than Avatar 2
                I disagree. Avatar 2 didn't have much impact, but easily more than EEAAO.
                >saying no one cares about the Dune movies is downright ridiculous, this thread and all of the positive reviews
                The reviews are pretty worthless. Most of them are not particularly positive, just get categorized as such. See

                >6.9
                duncbros... we so back

                as an example for something that RT considers positive. Those that are overwhlemingly positive are often brief, superficial, and from private blogs.
                This thread at best proves that people wildly disagree about its quality. But that's also worthless, since this is an anonymous board and no one can actually count how many people are on which side, how many are just baiting /shitposting and so on. Typical online discourse.
                That leaves the box office, and there both DUNCs seem to be end up breaking even, but not making much of a profit. That's not particularly outstanding.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >but easily more than EEAAO
                I saw far more discussion on EEAAO than Avatar 2, but that might just be me, your still right though both didn't make too big a splash

                >6.9
                duncbros... we so back

                That is one review one Rotten Tomatoes, you can look at other aggregator sites like IMDb and Metacritic to get more accurate results and there are still positives.

                >This thread at best proves that people wildly disagree about its quality

                My point wasn't that everyone liked it, just that people certainly cared about it, and I used this thread as an example because its easy to point to, not necessarily because its a good one.

                >the box office

                I was just making points on how box office isn't necessarily indicative of cultural impact.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >other aggregator sites like IMDb and Metacritic to get more accurate results and there are still positives
                They all have the same weakness: Points systems aren't all the same, or even comparable from reviewer to reveiwer. You have to read the reviews to get the gist.
                And of course there are clear positive ones, just like there are clear negative ones. That's to be expected.
                >I was just making points on how box office isn't necessarily indicative of cultural impact.
                Yeah. But nothing is. If we were 20 years in the future and could see how often something gets randomly brought up, that would tell us about its cultural impact. Right now, no way to know.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The CGI in Dune is state of the art. The prequels had bad effects when they came out.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Ghostbusters
          OOOOOOH

  44. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I saw it today and loved it. I am a big fan of the book though so I'm a bit biased, but Villeneuve's two films are good adaptations. I got kind of thrown off guard how he didn't end this one as conclusively as Lynch did, but I realize he's setting up Dune Messiah to make it a trilogy.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >as conclusively as Lynch did
      >I realize he's setting up Dune Messiah
      You fricktard have never read the books this is based on.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're the only fricktard here. Its just been a decade since I read Dune in high school so I dont exactly remember how Herbert ended it, yet I saw 1984 Dune more recently so I can compare it to that. Sorry you are such a moron you can't realise I have different experiences with the source material than you.
        Pic related are my copies. Still havent read Messiah though. And its a fact Villeneuve wants to make a Dune Messiah adaptation, which the ending of this film was pointing to.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >a Dune Messiah adaptation, which the ending of this film was pointing to.
          Read Messiah then. What Villeneuve has set up heavily contradicts it. What Villeneve wants to make is not actually a Messiah adaptation, it's just DUNC3 based mostly on his own fanfiction.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ok. If you are the same anon then that advice is more productive than us calling each other names. If a Messiah adaptation gets greenlit I will read it over the summer. Well I will read the rest of the series anyway, I've wanted to for a long time. I will admit Villeneuve has messed up the Alia character, even that was obvious to me not having a full memory of the books events. There are many articles online saying it will be a challenge for Villeneuve to adapt Messiah due to its own content and the changes he made.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But are they going to just call it Dune: Part 3?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They might but I hope they just call it Dune Messiah as it would mainly no longer be based on the original book's material, but the sequel.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        DUNC |||ESSIAH

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nice

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          DUN三 MESSIAH

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >DUN3

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'd prefer Messiah but they box office wise probably should call it Part 3 now for a multitude of reasons, one being that gay ass brian herbert tv show coming out called 'Dune: Prophecy' it's just going to confuse normie general audiences which is which

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, people are probably going to think its like a spin-off or something, probably a bad marketing choice, but who knows we might underestimate all of the normies

  45. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah its pretty good. Dune 3 with anya will be better tho. Everything is better with ayys.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You need to stop judging films by whether you like the actors or not. They just play a minor part in the quality of a film. They could be the best actors ever, giving the performance of a lifetime, and still won't save it if the rest is trash.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Films are all shit shit because screen writers all come from the same israeli feminist studies course at berkley then run thru the same diverse screen tests. Its a return to the golden age of movies. When star power mattered. Because the slop they are handed to act out is all the same.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >screen writers all come from the same israeli feminist studies course
          You're a moron. Stop getting all your film knowledge from youtube.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah. DUNC Part 2 is still good even though Zendaya.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          DUNC2 is trash, regardless of Zendaya.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I didn't read the book so explain me, did she have that supernatural power of growing up fast or not? Because Anya-Taylor Joy is only one year younger than Chalamet how to explain this?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >how to explain this?
        Don't look for explanations when Dennis Vileneuf is involved.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wasn't that a flash-forward, though?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They certainly didn't just cast ATJ for two scenes.
          If DUNC3 gets made, she'll be playing Alia. She's technically going to be a bit too old for the role still, but it's not too much of a stretch.
          The real question is how they're going to pretend that Timmy is now 30+ years old. Yes, that's his actual age, but he looks like a prepubescent boy. He barely looked old enough to play Paul at the start of DUNC1, and already too young for Paul at the end of DUNC2.
          If the timeskip to DUNC3 stays the same as it was for Messiah, he won't be able to pull it off.
          And if there's, once again, no significant timeskip, ATJ won't work as Alia.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I guess we'll just have to wait and see whether they mess with the timeline, or just age Paul and Alia up or down, as I'm not too sure

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >"I love you."

  46. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >chani's friend gets put on the movie cover

    who's dick did she suck?

  47. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No. Dune as a story is pretty terrible.
    >superficial politics given a large focus despite doing absolutely nothing interesting
    >absolutely horrendous sense of scale given to the few events that do occur
    >they're so heckin advanced it wraps back to being low tech just because, it is fantasy with a sci-fi veneer
    >the lore reads like that meme chart of the finnokorean hyperwar
    This adaptation focusing on aesthetic filler shots was probably the only smart thing they did to give the audience a break from this horrid writing.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Politics dont actually matter boomer.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Bot post

  48. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes it’s very good. /Tv is full of contrarians who are so used to hating on anything mainstream. That’s valid 95% of the time but this movie really didn’t have much woke shit at all despite what you’ll hear on this board

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >this movie really didn’t have much woke shit
      Imagine thinking that THIS is what film criticism should be about. /misc/ has utterly destroyed your brain.

  49. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Panda Crushes Worm. News at 11.

  50. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes

  51. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I couldn't get through the first 20min of Dune 1. Atrocious and up its own ass.

  52. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's very good. It's not the "greatest sequel ever" or whatever extreme hyperbole you're hearing, but it is a very enjoyable movie. It's definitely a theater experience you shouldn't miss if you like that kind of thing.
    My least favorite thing about it is Chani and when you see it, you'll know why. And it's not even because of the change from the book that I don't like that aspect.

  53. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's not an 8.9 like the imdb initial spamming is suggesting, but it's better than the first one
    also better than any star wars movie overall

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >also better than any star wars movie overall
      No.
      It's not even better than Rise Of Skywalker. That one at least had halfway competent cinematography, and overall pretty good accting performances.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        star wars is for children

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Okay, so what?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Original Star Wars ending pisses over this ending from a great height.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        starwars have failed on every level to live up to its name, 10 movies of inconsequential bullshit , empire LE BAD, rebels LE GOOD
        andor has been the only interesting thing to come out of the entire franchise
        dune comes along and mogs it with one movie,
        once the trilogy is complete, it will literally be over for starwars

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >andor has been the only interesting thing to come out of the entire franchise
          Andor was trash.
          >dune comes along and mogs it with one movie,
          Since you mean DUNC, no. DUNC was even worse.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            andor was the only thing in starwars with depth, character motivation on both sides
            everything else in star wars has been surface-level slop for moron man-children to keep buying toys
            i can smell the plastic funko pops toys in your room from here

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Andor
              >depth
              Kek.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >starwars
                >depth
                kek

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Exactly. Star Wars barely has any depth. Andor is no exception. But it's also one of the worst things in that franchise for how disingenuous it is about it. Or rather for how disingenuous its fans are for pretending that it's way more "deep" and "mature".

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                thanks for confirm that dune has mogged starwars all along

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >thanks for confirm that
                Thanks for confirm that DUNC attracts subhumans like yourself with abysmal langage skills.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >langage skills
                >langage

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >bad grammar = typos
                Sure thing, child.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                actual moron tries to call out someone for being a moron and fails
                tries to overcorrect with capitalization on Cinemaphile

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sure thing, DUNCtard.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                still mad that you can't spell?
                yikes, star wars fans on suicide watch

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >star wars fans
                As if there was a difference between Star Wars fanboys and DUNCtards.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it's so easy to trigger star wars fans by saying andor is better
                but its objectively true
                star wars IS surface level trash, and andor has a standard set of writers that are well above the IQ levels of lucas that took the material, which was utter dogshit, and made passable tv for adults to watch

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >made passable tv for adults to watch
                See. This is why I called it disingenuous. It's the same trash for children, but with a pretense of being "dark and serious". In that way, it has a lot of common with DUNC.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >well above the IQ levels

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                so the argument is that someone in the franchise pushed back and made the product better?
                maybe they should have been around when lucas produced the prequels

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      TRUE. I hate that kind of Sci-Fi slop, Dune has a far more original identity and much more engaging world-building, don't know why so many people seem to dislike it on this board.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >don't know why so many people seem to dislike it on this board.
        Because it's shit.
        If Cinemaphile is split on something, you should always see whether /film/ likes it or not. If they do, that means it's most probably well-made, at least on a technical level, and might have something of import to say.
        If the majority of /film/ dislikes it, that means that all the positive voices come from normalgay election-tourists who also love capeshit. It's most probably not well-made and completely superficial.

  54. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Atleast I get all the Muad'Dib usernames on forums 20 years ago now.

  55. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I might watch it once more but it's not a movie I would return to over and over. I will definitely see a third if Villeneuve does it. He's good at making worlds, not in the narrative sense, but making environments that are tactile and satisfying to be in.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >satisfying to be in
      Did you grow up in the USSR or something?

  56. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's so fricking bad. I really enjoyed the first movie, too. What a disappointment

  57. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    saw it with my grandma last week. it killed her.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I hope you returned her water.

  58. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why didn't "DOG of a woman" anon post yet?

  59. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no, part 1 is better

  60. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's pretty damn well made but it has major pacing issues and plot points that come out of nowhere / are never really explained. also Zendaya and Chalamet have no chemistry and I don't understand why they love each other

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Read the book. The movie gets even worse once you realize DVil either didn’t understand the story, didn’t care, or both.
      It’s visually very cool…but damn, bro, real guts would have been to tell the actual story. The movie is parody; everything Herbert was thumping on the reader’s head about is what the movie fell right into without even the smallest glimmer of self-awareness.
      >There’s good guys and bad guys, see…
      Frick off, film.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yeah, the more I read about the books (Alia killing the baron, Paul's kid being killed by the Harkonnen, etc.) makes them sound way cooler than the movies

        >everything Herbert was thumping on the reader’s head about is what the movie fell right into without even the smallest glimmer of self-awareness.

        what do you mean by this?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          1)
          The story is the story of humanity, of us. It’s how ideas and stories are passed on through the generations and how those stories, even if they were say meaningless or deleterious, shape the political landscape and downstream of that the lives of the people who, quite possibly (and most often actually), suffer greatly because of it.
          Everyone in the story is following a tale they’ve been told without really thinking of these things, where they came from, if it’s even real, or whether or not they should abandon it altogether.

          We’re born into a world where the story, the mind virus of a preconceived seemingly fixed version of history, is given to us and we carry it forward passing to our kids. Herbert wasn’t a-religious, but there’s certainly a conversation regarding the transmission of religion. In the book, and in the film kinda, this idea of a messiah that everyone is following behind gives rise to a Hitler in Paul, and as a consequence billions die. Because of the story they were told and believed, a story that’s so old it’s unknown the real origin, suffering. Great, great pain.
          The worms are God’s, and look how easy it was to bend them to your will. The people literally ride them around. With no control maybe, but even Gods we’re oblivious to the ways in which they were being manipulated, used, bent to purposes not their own.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          1)
          The story is the story of humanity, of us. It’s how ideas and stories are passed on through the generations and how those stories, even if they were say meaningless or deleterious, shape the political landscape and downstream of that the lives of the people who, quite possibly (and most often actually), suffer greatly because of it.
          Everyone in the story is following a tale they’ve been told without really thinking of these things, where they came from, if it’s even real, or whether or not they should abandon it altogether.

          We’re born into a world where the story, the mind virus of a preconceived seemingly fixed version of history, is given to us and we carry it forward passing to our kids. Herbert wasn’t a-religious, but there’s certainly a conversation regarding the transmission of religion. In the book, and in the film kinda, this idea of a messiah that everyone is following behind gives rise to a Hitler in Paul, and as a consequence billions die. Because of the story they were told and believed, a story that’s so old it’s unknown the real origin, suffering. Great, great pain.
          The worms are God’s, and look how easy it was to bend them to your will. The people literally ride them around. With no control maybe, but even Gods we’re oblivious to the ways in which they were being manipulated, used, bent to purposes not their own.

          2)

          It’s funny, because DVil is doing with the film EXACTLY what Herbert was discussing: rallying behind this idea that there are good guys and bad guys. He, just like the rest of us, grew up hearing that kind of story. True growth is in seeing around it and through. Some however, fall into the trap.
          The movie is blind to itself.
          >It’s rebels against the MAN, maaan
          Plucky heroes fighting the good fight.

          That’s the main source of headache. There’s plenty more, but damn here was a chance to tell one of the greatest tales ever, something that could truly make people consider the ground beneath their feet.

          So you, now hearing this, get to watch and go “oh, man” at how blind, how snowed these people are. Doesn’t make you better, just like a bird on a wire able to see a little further.

          Like I said, without even a glimmer of self-awareness.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          [...]
          2)

          It’s funny, because DVil is doing with the film EXACTLY what Herbert was discussing: rallying behind this idea that there are good guys and bad guys. He, just like the rest of us, grew up hearing that kind of story. True growth is in seeing around it and through. Some however, fall into the trap.
          The movie is blind to itself.
          >It’s rebels against the MAN, maaan
          Plucky heroes fighting the good fight.

          That’s the main source of headache. There’s plenty more, but damn here was a chance to tell one of the greatest tales ever, something that could truly make people consider the ground beneath their feet.

          So you, now hearing this, get to watch and go “oh, man” at how blind, how snowed these people are. Doesn’t make you better, just like a bird on a wire able to see a little further.

          Like I said, without even a glimmer of self-awareness.

          3) So the real story isn’t just bigger, is more organic. More real and very human.
          It’s a better story, because it’s so, so aware of the pastoral tribal nature of humanity and our generational ignorance. Childhood is going
          >exploitation bad! Good guys n bad guys!
          Adulthood is going
          >It’s people.
          And empathy can arise in consequence.

          The movie takes that from you and replaces it with the more reductive, simplistic take drawn in huge crayon.
          That’s why I wonder if DVil even read the story, and if he did, did he understand it or care.

          The total story is very dark, but it ends with hope.
          …I want to see THAT story at the kinoplex.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The total story is very dark, but it ends with hope.
            >…I want to see THAT story at the kinoplex.
            That's what Lynch's Dune is for.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous
          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            while I agree the film largely lacks the level of nuance you imply the book has, it is very clearly setting up the prophecy and good guy vs bad guy dynamic to be false and for Paul to become Mega Hitler later on. Not sure if this is exactly what you were getting at though

            thanks for the explanation though, you made me want to read the books even more

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Not sure if this is exactly what you were getting at though

              Yes, the movie does, but it treats it very differently than the books. Like I said, “kinda.” Like yes and no and yes and no.
              A bit too much for phoneposting, but if you read the books you’ll see all these things surrounding those central points of prophecy etc. the movie just doesn’t understand; it apes the things without nailing the subtext underpinning the thing i.e. the message that COULD be given to the audience never happens. What you get is an action film that doesn’t think much at all.
              It wouldn’t have been hard, just a few lines and different scenes.
              It’s like DVil make a cardboard cutout of a plane, because that’s what they look like and thought it was a real plane.
              The film treats prophecy and vision as both and neither whenever it’s convenient. It’s more of a superpower than what it really was: this collapsing wave-function that, once you see it, you’re heading straight for it. It’s a conversation of fate, choice, free-will etc. that’s in the movie in only a very superficial sense. Again, I don’t think it would have been hard to inject the context which would flesh it out properly while also not scaring away the norms from having to think to much. DVil just did it bent and as such by the end nothing really meant too much. It’s a soap opera that if he continues forwards is going to require some weird ninja-ing to make it work (read: they’ll probably have to just change the story altogether). As such both the film and the audience are lacking essential elements that would have made it a better film VIA the mental conversations it could provoke.
              Seems like a nitpick, but I truly feel the film leaves a hole in the audience without their knowing it; something feels off, and they can’t explain why. Doesn’t have to be there.

              I blame this largely on his approach of dialog = useless in film
              in a story about politics…a little more dialog might’ve been a good idea lol.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Not sure if this is exactly what you were getting at though

              Yes, the movie does, but it treats it very differently than the books. Like I said, “kinda.” Like yes and no and yes and no.
              A bit too much for phoneposting, but if you read the books you’ll see all these things surrounding those central points of prophecy etc. the movie just doesn’t understand; it apes the things without nailing the subtext underpinning the thing i.e. the message that COULD be given to the audience never happens. What you get is an action film that doesn’t think much at all.
              It wouldn’t have been hard, just a few lines and different scenes.
              It’s like DVil make a cardboard cutout of a plane, because that’s what they look like and thought it was a real plane.
              The film treats prophecy and vision as both and neither whenever it’s convenient. It’s more of a superpower than what it really was: this collapsing wave-function that, once you see it, you’re heading straight for it. It’s a conversation of fate, choice, free-will etc. that’s in the movie in only a very superficial sense. Again, I don’t think it would have been hard to inject the context which would flesh it out properly while also not scaring away the norms from having to think to much. DVil just did it bent and as such by the end nothing really meant too much. It’s a soap opera that if he continues forwards is going to require some weird ninja-ing to make it work (read: they’ll probably have to just change the story altogether). As such both the film and the audience are lacking essential elements that would have made it a better film VIA the mental conversations it could provoke.
              Seems like a nitpick, but I truly feel the film leaves a hole in the audience without their knowing it; something feels off, and they can’t explain why. Doesn’t have to be there.

              I blame this largely on his approach of dialog = useless in film
              in a story about politics…a little more dialog might’ve been a good idea lol.

              >thanks for the explanation though, you made me want to read the books even more

              I’m glad, truly. I hope you do.

              Peace.

  61. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The final act felt rushed IMO

  62. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    my dad turned to me and said "wow i have never seen a movie like that in my life" hes 65

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, I get where he's coming from.
      Films this bad are rare.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I guess you've been in a coma for the past 15 years, films have gotten why more shit than this

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >films have gotten why more shit than this
          No. "Movies" have. Films still are great. They're just not what you watch.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What do you mean they are literally synonyms.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >they are literally synonyms

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh sorry I'm mistaken.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Looks like fake shit made by memesters

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's about the general use case of those termini.
                "Film" is a technical term that gets used in academic contexts. It's "filmmaking", not "moviemaking". The word itself originally refers to the phyical medium that was used to record moving pictures on. To this day, it's generally used outside of America to refer to, well, films. And in America it's used in contexts of film as an artform and when artistic authorship is the focus of the discussion.
                "Movie" is a popular term that is of American origin and refers to pictures that move. The history of American cinema knows other ridiculous terms like this, like "talkie" (as opposed to silent films). It's used in colloquial contexts, mostly by casual audiences and studios, and refers to the experience of consuming it rather than the art of making it: It's "moviegoing", not "filmgoing".
                Therefore, if contrasting the two termini, "film" is generally used for more artistic directorial works, while "movie" is used more for commercial products.
                If in doubt which applies to a certain work, I recommend refering to it as a "film", since calling something a "movie" could be seen as offensive in some cases.
                And never call something a "flick" unless you mean to demean it.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >since calling something a "movie" could be seen as offensive in some cases.

                It's like I've been calling it by the wrong pronouns or some shit

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, it's more like calling a social democrat a "communist", or a conservative a "nazi". You'd be taking a nuanced idea and throwing it in with the most radical bastardization of that idea.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My point is, mostly don't and shouldn't give a shit if you call their film a movie, it doesn't really matter.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >don't and shouldn't give a shit if you call their film a movie
                Because filmmakers know that casual audiences don't know what they're talking about. Nonetheless, "film" is the more refined term, and "movie" has the connotation of mass-produced entertainment.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                what about "kino"

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                "Kino" is German for "cinema".
                No point in using it if you're not speaking German.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                shut the frick up

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What are you getting so triggered about, anon?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Your mostly arguing about pedantics here, but I understand why it'd be an issue in official media analysis, but that's kind of irrelevant here

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Your mostly arguing about pedantics here
                True. But the question whether there's a difference came up pretty organically. I'm just trying to give an answer.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >autismo etiquette
                Nope, I only use the word cinéma

  63. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    dune is garbage, watch LOTR again

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      LOTR is also garbage, just way more derivative.

  64. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    These movies are overrated as frick.

  65. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i just got back from seeing this
    visually cinematic but kinda boring, i liked part 1 better
    i was thinking at least ill get closure to part 1 but then it ends on a cliffhanger and now i see theres gonna be a part 3
    theres a part where paul is supposed to prove himself and they tell him he has to cross some sanddunes and come back but then it never resolves?
    it just cuts forward to some scenes with zendaya and then its like it never happened
    i thought it cut to a flashback or something but it never addresses it again it was kind of confusing

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah or when Rabban goes to the desert with 20 choppers to find Muadib, and fricks off back the moment he sees a glimpse of him in the sandstorm. He's blind with rage, not a very calculating man, and he doesn't respect fremen power, yet he jolts the moment they appear, rather than fight them head on.
      Obviously a lot of stuff from the book had to be cut or changed, but the end result was that many scenes felt like filler, that was there just because Villeneuve thought it looked visually cool.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Book Rabban is quite smart, and gets fricked over by Thufir and the Baron.

        It was a great knife fight. Good choreography, having no music somehow helped the tension, just a shame about the ending. Even my dumb ass could tell he was going to use the knife in his body. Really spoiled the other guy supposedly being such great fighter/killer.

        And yet they cut the ironic ending to the fight. Book Feyd had been implanted with a code word to relax his muscles, and Paul knew it. Paul yelled out that he won't say it, and that act caused Feyd to hesitate for a bit, just enough for Paul to deliver a killing blow. It's like an entire thesis on how Paul is trying to avoid his fate, and yet it happens anyway. Paul didn't want to paralyze Feyd by saying one thing, but put him saying the other thing, brought about the same conclusion.
        Meanwhile the movie did the same fricking thing as John Wick 1. John let's himself be stabbed non fatally, so he can take the knife out and use it himself.

  66. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's for Dune what the LoTR trilogy was for LoTR.
    Yeah, it's pretty good.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It's for Dune what the LoTR trilogy was for LoTR.
      A terrible adaptation for terminal normalgays?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A great adaptation for people who either didn't read the books or are able to appreciate both? Yeah
        You're as a bad a homosexual who can't separate art from an artist who holds opinions antithetical to your own

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >able to appreciate both?
          Why would you appreciate something that fails both as an adaptation (by completely rewritting the story for the worse, changing characters and bastardizing themes) and as a film (by showcasing a severe lack of craftmanship in nearly all aspects of filmmaking)?

  67. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Me and my wife's boyfriend saw it last night.
    I liked how loud the IMAX was.
    He said "I liked DUNE your wife."

  68. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    '__'

  69. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just watched Dune Part One yesterday and i feel like i'm going insane. This is what people have been hyping? It was so bland and uninteresting.

  70. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Watched a stream, get fricked. I hated part 1 so I won't pay for 2.

    It's more of the same. It had some highlights, not gonna lie, but those were tiny moments in a vast sea of shit.
    I don't like Denis' direction of this story and setting. He is a cowardly director that leaves out cool and interesting shit and inserts ESG/DEI shit instead. I don't like his minimalism either, which he very nearly fricked BR2029 with, too. At this point it feels like an excuse to use as few extras as possible, and to put in as little work in a shot as possible.
    His version is a very basic b***h telling of the story. I hope it stops here because as far as I'm concerned this Dunc is yet another failure put to film.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Go back to your Marvel films homosexual

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        These movies are marvel you brain addled trog

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Go back to "The Wind Which Whips My wiener" or whatever pretentious yawn inducing arthouse paint drying films you watch then. Two sides of a shit coin Black person

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Go back to your Marvel films homosexual
        You mean like Aquaman here with his ridiculous capeshit fights?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I like how they have color coded aura for the video game crowd

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >ESG/DEI
      Did you watch the same Dunc I did????

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Unfortunately we did

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Is character that doesn't matter chainis mother???
          Or are you just mad that the desert Muslims aren't all white?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm upset that they're Black folk.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Comically debauched
      >Gladiator pits
      If anything theyre the corrupt roman emperor archetype. The israelites are their own group in the dune universe

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Watched a stream
      so you didn't watch the movie. it's dune music video, the story doesn't matter

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Watched a stream
      Opinion discarded

  71. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes it is

  72. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's watchable but disappointing.

  73. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    2/5

  74. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    can't wait to see anya in part 3

  75. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just got done watching it half a hour ago. Definitely worth the watch and a pretty good adaptation. The biggest flaw is them leaving out the fact that Paul and Channi having children, and the whole added Channi side story of hers in the film is pretty shit. That and not going over the fact that Paul has multiple wives and children in the book.

  76. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it was incredible but autists on this board dont like it because it was well received and popular therefore its "bad" if you are a contrarian sperg

  77. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not quite THAT good, and definitely not as good as LotR, which some people are comparing it to, but still a pretty good movie, and the kind of blockbuster we need more of now a days

  78. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes.

  79. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    dune part 1 was a dogshit movie carried by the uber sexy milf that was timmy's mom.

    Does she get lots of screentime in 2?

  80. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Worse that 1, still enjoyable, felt much 'smaller' than 1, somehow, probably too kuch focus on desert shit

  81. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't understand the timeline.
    Pauls mother is pregnant in movie 1, and she is still pregnant at the end of movie 2

    so less than 9 months have elapsed? and in that time all kinds of shit has happened? It doesn't make sense

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It was supposed to be two years, give or take, but Villeneuve wanted to avoid Alia at all cost.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It was supposed to be two years, give or take, but Villeneuve wanted to avoid Alia at all cost.

      It's funny to me because they tried to "hide" her pregnancy after she drink the water of life, It's like when actress is pregnant in tv show and they use pillows, sheet, heavy clothes and camera angle to mislead the viewer.

  82. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >6.9
    duncbros... we so back

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >6.9
      >Rotten Tomatoes classes this as a positive review
      That's how you get to 93%.

  83. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I thought riding the worms was silly

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