>DUUUUUDE YOURE LITERALLY KILLING A LITTLE TURTLE 300000 MILES AWAY BECAUSE YOU KEEP BUYING COFFEE
frick off boomer i like my coffee
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>DUUUUUDE YOURE LITERALLY KILLING A LITTLE TURTLE 300000 MILES AWAY BECAUSE YOU KEEP BUYING COFFEE
I'd rather frick my sister than drink American coffee
Here you can have both at the same time
people over 75 should just shut the frick up
ywnbaw
The funny part is Attenborough would in all likelihood be perfectly happy with the world if you slack jawed knob gobbling urbanites could just stop being unwitting buttholes to every bit of wildlife you see on a daily basis.
he won't be happy until you're taking the bus to the bug mart
It is my DUTY as the planet's apex predator to terrorize lesser species. Quite literally nature in action. Dethrone me if you don't like it, homosexual quadrupeds.
Sam Neil would fricking wreck you, anon and don't pretend otherwise. He'd fricking swallow you whole like a snake.
> as the planet's apex predator
Are you sure about that? I bet you are not even the apex predator in your neighborhood, let alone on the planet.
>AAAAAH IT'S THE CHUD'S FAULT THE CORPORTIONS ARE RUINING THE PLANET
>HOW CAN I BE RESPONSIBLE FOR SOMETHING I AM STILL A BABY!!
If you're under 25 this is true though.
clown world
>YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR OTHER PEOPLES ACTIONS
>THE IDEA OF PARTICIPATION IS TOO COMPLICATED FOR ME TELL HIM MOM! I'M ALL ONLY A BABY!
You say that about the only good boomer
the world would instantly be a significantly better place if everyone over 75 died immediately
I agree. So should people under 75. You should only talk on your 75th birthday.
This guy lives life like it’s an endless vacation and expects everyone to live incredibly bleak inconvenient lives so he can go see monkeys eat their own shit in beautiful forests around the world
absolute chad energy
Not as chad as his brother
Literally just make environmental conservation profitable. That's all it takes.
isn't that the idea behind carbon taxes? It's shit.
I hate these fricking nature documentaries. They anthropomorphize the animals, give them human intentions, and make out as if there's some grand scheme to their actions/behaviour. Worst is they present this disneyfied view of nature where it's this happy place and everything is in harmony until the evil humans came along and fricked it up. as if wild animals live these joyous lives. imagine all the brutal killings and suffering they leave out, the daily death struggle for survival all animals go through, constantly in fear, pain, seeking food water shelter warmth etc. killing each other, raping each other, battling rivals, dying of simple cuts or bone breaks, starving to death, parasites, bacterial infections etc
and that's only the mammals and birds really. the type of animals which give some type of shit about their offspring. note how they always show adult animals, those that have made it. the natural world is a just gigantic survivorship bias, only the strong and lucky are the ones you see alive.
the vast majority of actual life (fish, insects etc) literally just spambot out thousands of offspring in the offchance out of all the youngings that get eaten or killed or die or suffer that one luckboxes out into adulthood to do the same meaningless shit.
I would bet for every adult fish you see there's 1000 little baby fish that died some miserable fricking death before it. and for what? just so that adult homosexual can spambot more short life suffering fishies in the odd chance another will make it to do the same thing. the natural world is fricking hell.
don't drink your coffee to preserve this??? frick off
I hate when they give animals names.
Same, stop giving them moronic names. The stuff they show is already visceral, they don’t have to make it melodramatic and force a narrative behind what’s going on
Yeah. They should just call them "animal".
Grizzly Man was a kino documentary about the flaw in trying to project humanity's goodness onto nature.
I unironically hate nature. >NOO WE HAVE TO PRESERVE LE ANIMALS BECAUSE ITS LE WHOLESOME!!
frick off. It's as bad as libtards thinking Black folk deserve rights
>I unironically hate nature. >NOO WE HAVE TO PRESERVE LE ANIMALS BECAUSE ITS LE WHOLESOME!!
Don't worry, you'll grow out of that opinion when you're no longer a kid
Touch grass homosexual
this but unironically
this post was ironic and made by a leftist but ironically CAUGHT two discord trannies thinking it was real, lmao
It's really just "these things are cute so we should preserve them". Which is fricking stupid, zoos exist. The only reason we haven't genocided all these species is because they don't get in the way enough. Wolves and bears are extinct in my country because they're fricking Black person animals and we hunted them until they were all fricking dead.
the worst part is that the leftie crazies always want to bring them back. Why on earth would I want to literally be in danger of being eaten alive by a pack of wolves or a bear while I go for a jog in the forest or use my bicycle somewhere. There is zero benefit to me. It's literally 100% about some irrational worship of nature. Yes we should preserve them but no, we dont need them running around in every forest. Their only argument is: "but they are scared of you anyway, don't worry lol". Bruh they are scared because we hunted them to near extinction and it literally got transcribed into their DNA. That will reverse again if you give them time. There are even morons who defend sharks! *sharks*. Imagine defending a microbrain giant flesh eating animal that attacks you in an environment where you have no hope of fighting back.
This is an even more moronic train of thought than
Conservation efforts are not rooted in "cuteness", it's about the proper functioning of the ecosystem that is disrupted by human action. If the top predators are all killed by humans because they eat your dog or whatever, this has a chain reaction where, for example, prey animals breed out of control.
Like, I'm sorry you fricking five year olds, but the state of nature is more important than you personally not being scared when you go outside.
>Conservation efforts are about the proper functioning of the ecosystem
Who said that the "correct" function of an ecosystem is precisely to remain unchanged?
it doesn't have to remain unchanged, but if you sterilize it with chemicals then there's no ecosystem anymore.
>it doesn't have to remain unchanged
Thus, the ideology of nature conservation is undermined.
The only thing you're undermining is your own brain idiot.
>conservation means change
I learned something new today.
It does if what you're conserving is a system where change is inherent.
I don't understand why you're pretending to be moronic.
Well then, there is no need to roll back the changes that people have brought to this system.
Why are you pretending to be moronic we already went over this
Yes I agree. If the goals of "preserving" nature allow for changes to occur with nature, then I am not against it. I am quite satisfied with the changes in nature that have occurred in recent times since the beginning of industrial evolution.
revolution*
wrong, the point is to preserve ecosystems not individuals.
btfo
You''re just trying to reframe the issue as you "allowing change". Conservation is not about preserving as-is forever. It's about allowing life to live and change.
And it's such a lazy point as well, because you if you like, build a oil rig in the middle of the great barrier reef, it's going to remain very fricking unchanging after it's dead.
So anything that humans do by is by definition okay because "we're all part of nature maaaan"? is that seriously your lazy troll stance?
>It's about allowing life to live and change
What about that life called the bubonic plague? Why not let it live and change? Not? I thought so.
you call others responses “trolling” even though your position is no deeper
pathetic narcissist control freak
how small is your pp tho fr
This is religion. Science has proven that there is no metaphysical division between people and nature, we are the same part of the biochemical reaction of evolution as any other organism.
and who imposed this function on ecosystems? The function of ecosystems is to make people enjoy watching them. And I'm not very pleased to look at not very cute animals.
>The function of ecosystems is to make people enjoy watching them
What the frick are you even talking about
>proper functioning of the ecosystem
Big predators are useless for ecosystem and can be fully replaced by humans at minimum cost
Plenty of things CAN be replaced by humans, but why fix what isn't broken?
I mean I guess if you're imagining a perfect system where people would never kill more animals than has been scientifically estimated should be killed. Maybe it's just more efficient not to kill top predators?
>should
>scientifically estimated
oh my god what an idiotic moron
How else do you imagine humans filling the role of all the top predators? Letting a bunch of drunk hillbillys go into the woods and shoot willy nilly and hope it all works out?
why do you get to define what’s important
i think your the 5 year old here pretending to be in charge
lmao kys loser
The suffering of prey outweighs the satiation of predator, it is the innate state of this reality. Buddhists get it. 1st noble truth - Life is suffering.
We are all part of a life force farm for parasites.
>pic related
Wise anon is wise
same for humans tbh look how many people are stuck living miserable lives or even suffering from horrible fates and illnesses vs what we see on TV the success stories and happy faces
I hate the Demiurge.
Suffering is a spook and buddhists are morons
Ok I'll come along and insert bamboo shoots in your fingernails and you can tell me how suffering is just a spook while I do it.
A lion could kill 100 gazelles in its lifetime, but the gazelle will only be killed by a lion once
based
herzog said when needed to be said years ago
That's an amazing clip.
I don’t know man there’s a lot of documentary footage of animals eating and killing eachother
he's literally an amerilard who only looks at american nature documentaries which have fricking sound effects and feel like slapstick comedy. attenkino is nothing like this
>I hate animals because they kill and eat other animals
>us humans on the other hand...
When was the last time humans ate animals alive while they still had enough strength in them to scream in agony for minutes?
People give humanity for shit for being capable of cruelty but there isn't a single animal that is capable of compassion and the lack of compassion in nature is pretty fricking close to cruelty in its consequences. Predators give zero shit about how their prey feels and the utlitarian way for them to hunt involves a great deal of suffering. Not to mention animals that straight up kill for fun, practice, to get rid of competing offsping and other reasons.
Are you imputing responsibility to beings who are objectively incapacitated?
There is a thread in /gif/ for such things, you can take a look.
>When was the last time humans ate animals alive while they still had enough strength in them to scream in agony for minutes?
Never been to the third world?
>When was the last time humans ate animals alive while they still had enough strength in them to scream in agony for minutes?
2 seconds before you posted this, in China.
The vast majority of documentaries are not guilty of your charges. You probably conflated them with facebook postings or something in your head.
if that’s true you’ll need to provide a case for it otherwise you’re just being a gay coping with words
antinatalist redditor detected
wrong Black person
You are a Black person if you don't understand the importance and value of nature.
>Worst is they present this disneyfied view of nature where it's this happy place and everything is in harmony until the evil humans came along and fricked it up.
Many of Attenborough's documentaries do show the brutal side of nature. There's always some hunt footage where a calf gets picked off by a wolf or something. But nature IS in harmony, that's the point. Harmony is not a moral assessment. Humans disrupt that harmony because we are such a force to be reckoned with.
I will admit many of his more recent docs focus way to much on trying to guilt trip humans for our own existence, which is equally moronic, but plenty of his documentaries don't mention humans at all. It's just observation of nature.
do I have to watch documentaries from the 70s or 80s if I don't want any dishonest storytelling bullshit, overuse of dramatic music and people trying to convince me animals behave just like humans would?
You need to dilate.
Black person you have never watched any of Attenburough's documentaries.
best post on Cinemaphile and Cinemaphile right now
What isn't lit up hard in nature documentaries to the point where morons such as yourself aren't even aware of is the SYMBIOSIS of nature. Like how Mao ordered all the sparrows to be culled so they wouldn't eat the crops, but then they were overrun by locusts and insects because of that cull. Nature can be brutal but we live in an interdependant ecosytem and its only when the great mass extinction accelerates that humans will learn what we had and can't get back.
70 percent of animal species have become extinct since the 70s.
>SYMBIOSIS
What good does it do a salmon to have a bear skins it alive and leave it to die like that?
There's a lot we don't know, and we'll never know. The depletion of the Amazon and Borneo rainforests is tragic. There could be unidentified cancer curing plants gone up in smoke yesterday.
>I don know. God works in mysterious ways
I acknowledge your honesty.
This is what happens to animal populations all the time. This is a natural dynamic, during periods of reproduction, the populations of some animals increase thousands of times. Although I still don't know how hunger is worse than being eaten alive. What if we fight hunger among people this way?
>Although I still don't know how hunger is worse than being eaten alive.
it's not about the individual death it's about killing a few of the population (who reproduce enough to compensate for predation) or killing off the entire population due to overpopulation.
> killing off the entire population
You cannot kill what is not alive. And overpopulation is no more capable of leading to the extinction of a population than predators.
>overpopulation
Lol. This is a meme. Define an overpopulation.
white people exist
Its not 'god works in mysterious ways', I'm not saying that idiot
>I'm not saying that
I don’t really understand what else you are saying, when in a situation where you cannot point out what justifies the suffering, you conclude that it must still be justified (after all, the world was created by an all-good God)
Its just the balance of nature, no it isn't good for a salmon to die but it killed stuff too while it was alive, btw God isn't real
God punishes the salmon for her sins by having the bear skin her alive. That's what justifies her suffering.
But if there is no God, then it doesn't work very well, right?
WHy not?
The amount of suffering in the world leaves no chance for the existence of an all-good and all-powerful God.
>because I die God isn't real
What a whiney gay. Suffering is a fraction of the existence on earth. Salmon aren't even sentient either you giant homo.
God exists but is extremely evil and enjoys the suffering of his creations.
predators and prey are naturally made to balance each other out. if prey animals were to stop being preyed upon their population would quickly boom to unsustainable levels and end up wiping them out due to lack of resources.
Kind of what humans are actually
>predators and prey are naturally made to balance each other out.
Then why am I forbidden to balance blacks in Africa, preventing famine there?
Europe wiped out like 90% of it's nature including all of our megafauna and turned an almost 100% forested continent into a quilt of farmland and cities and yet we are fine. Where is our ecological collapse? Truth is, we didn't need the nature in the first place. If we manage our manufactured ecosystem with wisdom and care, it can be independent of nature.
Rainforests are earth's air conditioners and create rain. Take those away and everywhere will be hot and dry as frick
The water cycle happens regardless of trees, anon.
Obviously, but that's not much of an argument is it, The frustrating thing about climate change deniers and 'who needs' nature' is the willfil stupidity of it, read a book!
We don't need nature. This world would be better off as one giant farm. Man will defeat nature and put something better in it's place.
>justifies his view by humanizing animals
idiot
This fact may seem insulting to you, but science has proven that people ARE in fact animals.
you're quite right.
r whole post is just fricking moronic for that reason.
moron. I say people and animals as if it were the 17th century and I was talking people meaning only white men.
Humanizing animals would make sense then.
based
there is no god. there is only mother nature. and she is the cruelest of all mistresses.
>there is no god. Only . . . ANTI-GOD!
I see we have mr. 'twisted fricking psychopath' with us today
>remove one divine essence
>replace it with another
Jordan Peterson is right, people just can't live without God.
>the natural world is a just gigantic survivorship bias, only the strong and lucky are the ones you see alive.
yes, that's us. why are you complaining again? we turned that vicious cycle into entertainment
This but unironically, nature is disgusting and the further we stray away from it as humanity the better.
except there's nothing out there. Everything good about you comes from nature.
If there is a hell, we are already in it.
Certainly seems that way
Take notes on this post if you want to see what end level, fedora-tipping, suicidal atheism looks like.
>Ah here we have the African Pied Hornbill, a magnificent creature that may not live to see the next century. If only you white people, and only you white people, would eat out of tin cans and never cook, we could save this species. You should also donate all of your savings to immigration aid and invite one into your home.
>If only you white people, and only you white people, would eat out of tin cans and never cook, we could save this species.
Well, since a single whitey consumes about as much as 100 Black folk, I don't see a problem in this demand.
>You should also donate all of your savings to immigration aid and invite one into your home.
I've already invited an immigration into my home. Have you?
Also nice strawman.
a single white person is worth more than 1 billion Black folk
>frick off boomer i like my coffee
>don't you DARE over consume and risk hurting nature!!!
>humans are greedy and destroying the planet!!!
>anyway, I've got to get back home to my mansion. Don't forget to buy my DVDs, books, posters and other paraphernalia
That's a lot of chimneys
Spared no expense
He’s got more chimneys than a power plant
That's a mansion? It looks like a hospice.
I unironically think all predators should be killed. They're the lowest form of animal.
t. herbivore mad he can't eat all the defenseless plants with impunity
Rope is cheap. You go first.
if I could push a button and kill every animal on this earth I'd do it in a heartbeat. What the frick is the point of an animal? Brutes.
They provide us food and help the ecosystem. Only mosquitos are worth genociding
>*crime rate in america drops by 50%*
>he doesn't like to eat meat
what are you? some kind of vegan animal hater? what a homosexual
Can you moronic zoomer fricks go back to playing Fortnite or whatever it is you do? Holy shit.
Are you a plant?
europeans hate how americans have access to cheap energy and do propaganda like this to shame them for it
They seethe about everything though, so it’s not really surprising
Seems like the issue lies with the companies making coffee.
cool it with the anti semitic remarks
>DUUUUUDE THE GARBAGE I THROW AWAY JUST MAGICALLY DISAPPEARS LMAO
Urbanites get the rope.
>born into a society that wraps everything in plastic, but has no way of disposing of it
yeah bro this is definitely the consumers fault
But duuuuude you can spend twice as much to buy paper wrapped organic shit instead
why didn’t liberals keep responding to these posters
let’s count how many arguments the left runs away from every day here really
>doesn't mention over population in his own country due to mass immigration
>doesn't mention the countryside is being destroyed to house the growing immigrant population
>doesn't mention local wildlife are becoming extinct as a result
he's a voice actor, he doesn't write his inane dribble
Overpopulation only applies to western white people with already declining birthrates, it's fine when China, India and Africa do it.
When China started the one-child policy to prevent overpopulation they got accused of genocide. It's damned if you do damned if you don't.
>accused of genocide
No they weren't.
They were accused of genocide when they were actually busy genociding their own population repeatedly, maoist scum
They quite literally were.
>you're killing the little girls
>this is inhumane
>you can't do this
Now that they've stopped?
>you're overpopulating the planet
>you're going to kill us all
>be more responsible
Can't win.
Yeah ok Chang, none of these are genocide and click bait articles from 30 years ago aren't the ICC
Fricking chinks and their moronic persecution complex
You just suck at civilization, fricking deal with it already
>You just suck at civilization, fricking deal with it already
*goes from literally eating their own people because of famine to owning the majority of the world (including the americans) in three decades*
>owning the majority of the world (including the americans)
Do you.. do you actually believe this stuff?
Try making an explicitly anti-China statement or film without having to quietly acquiesce. Everyone is in their pockets. This isn't a particularly good thing, especially regarding Taiwan but it's the reality of the world right now.
The fact it makes the burgers shit themselves with rage as they go down in rainbow flames is probably the only good side of it.
Burgers deserve what they get.
whoever wins we lose
i don't know why mutts are angry at china tbh
you made china what it is now
They underestimated them and are now coming to terms with the fact that they facillitated their own downfall. They thought they were making cute little slave pets destined to make them trinkets forever. They didn't realise the Chinese were always smarter, just biding their time.
TLDR: America lost a long time ago and they're only just beginning to realise.
>aren't the ICC
The ICC are toothless. They literally got sanctioned by the US for investigating a frick ton of American war crimes in Afghanistan. Not even the organisation, the investigators themselves.
Anon they were accused of genocide not because of the one child policy but because they were killing their girls. Parents wanted boys and since you can only have one child you abort the girls until you get to a boy.
That's gendercide.
Which is actually not what turned out to happen. Just that an absolute frick load of undocumented girls started appearing years later. China does a lot of bad shit but the mutts are doing their damndest to turn them into cartoon villains for the utter idiots to fall for.
Fricking mutts.
That's good, then I'm sure there is no large observable sex imbalance in Chinese society then.
The imbalance is nowhere newar to the level it would be had these purges taken place. It's a known fact that families simply didn't register their kids after having more than one. I've spent some time living in China, it's surprising how much of the general belief of the place from the west is bullshit.
Their antagonism with Taiwan is 100% accurate though and they need to cut that shit out.
I don't drink coffee.
>South east Asia accounts for 99% of plastic pollution in the sea
>but it’s middle class white peoples fault
Western countries literally export their rubbish for these countries to dump. They threw a hissyfit when China stopped taking in their shit.
Plastic lobbies threw a hissy fit, no one else gave a frick
>they pollute more yes BUT ITS LE WHITE PEOPLE’S FAULT
Get a better government wang chung
>Western countries spend two centuries polluting the world to build their dystopian nightmare
>Nooooo you can't do that too, you have to embrace net zero now
The west manufactures all of their disposables there then sends the trash to be “recycled” (read dumped into the ocean).
Environmentalism and heavy industrialism both share the same core belief at heart: The belief that nature is a distraction from industry and should be treated as such
And the bots bury this one, I don't even expect the OP Attenborough bot to reply to this
lol, aren't zoomers the ones concerned about the environment? pretty sure it was the boomers who didn't give af
The people that are "concerned" about the environment are misanthropes that project their hatred of civilization onto climate activism, ultra rich globalists that want to micromanage the lives of 99.9% of people to secure their power position, opportunistic grifters that see climate activism as a means to make money and get influence, NPCs that listen to the media that the globalist owns and the grifter uses as a platform and teenagers with protagonist syndrome.
I'm genuinely shocked by how much this guy hates humans.
As people get older they just seem to want to genocide their countrymen. It's a bizarre phenomenon that no one could have known because people are living longer now than ever.
I'm only 30 and I hate humans, thanks to this website
You have to be moronic if you don't hate most humans on this planet. If I could I'd wipe out like a quarter of humanity at least just out of the disgust I feel towards Black folk, amerimongrels, chinks, pajeets and what have you subhumans.
I agree, the world should be the Welsh and whoever the Welsh decide to keep around as pets. Nothing more.
He is upperclass British, literally the entire world should move around what they think.
This is pretty much the perfect statement on the matter. It comes with the territory with these guys.
Shit, I think I'll go and have a cup right now.
I felt the same way. Im gonna go make two cups and dump one in the sink.
>you vil drink ze coffee
>Cinemaphile has turned on David Attenborough of all people
Incontrovertible proof that the demographic replacement of this board happened as a result of the 2016 election. It's like reading a Facebook thread full of old women and Muslim shills.
Any and all antienvironmentalists get the rope as far as I'm concerned
>oh my science, not my wise old bri'ish voicerino
after a certain age you realise that things appearing on tv are not always true or in your best interest
Yeah and that age being 15, and what you left out is that you now get all your information from the internet
have a nice day already trannoid city slicker
i love it when libtards have to use our words to sound smug or tough when they lose an argument
you love tranoids moron don’t pretend to be cool like us
>labels labels labels
yes i labeled you and i see you don’t like it
if i did it incorrectly let me know how and why
His pontificating is tiresome when he ignores the true sources of the problems he complains about.
b***h more brainlet
maybe if your opinions weren’t stupid people wouldn’t turn on you
it’s not that impossible to understand moron holy frick you’re a karen moron
Turtles are living on the moon?
Chink discord raid? Attenborough is a living hero
can't wait until this old hack fricking dies, the reddit tears will be glorious
Yeah millions of people will be sad and rightfully so, he's had a huge effect on our appreciation of the natural world and many people grew up with him being a household name. Unless you're not white or something. Problem?
He's done massive harm to our appreciation of nature by humanizing wildlife to such a degree that people literally don't understand the danger they're in when they visit wild spaces.
you hate white people dumb frick
>110 years old
>still has more hair than I do
JUST
Stop feeding the wildlife
>MOVE TO WHERE THE FOOD IS! OH OOOOOOOH!
I unironically hate him now and I hope his death is long and uncomfortable. Elitist prick.
Water Buffalos is literally me
i always thought greentext is zoomer ideology, were i wrong?
what?
He never said any of the things in this thread, you just want to get mad.
You know he makes public statements too? Not everything he says is from a doc.
> YOU WILL CONSIDER THE CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR WAY OF LIVING ON OTHER INHABITANTS OF THIS PLANET AND FUTURE GENERATIONS
Frick those israelites, if there is no god, then everything is permitted.
The thing is, caring about nature is fine. That statement is fine. The bullshit comes in because the WEF does not give a shit about nature. All these things are being done to limit our freedom and prosperity and give them more control, and guilting people with the "green" agenda is just a great way to mask this.
In any case, Hitler loved nature and knew that European national socialism was the best way for humans and nature to prosper alike.
You can always begin conscious consumption voluntarily, without forcing anyone to control you. it's how adults behave, but you decide to behave like children, and the elders have to control you.
That makes it more difficult to signal my status
>it's how adults behave
>coming from someone under 20
If adults behaved that way we wouldn't have a crisis. You seem stupid.
being smug and sucking your own cum isn’t helping
>It's okay to care about a THING that can't feel anything.
What's next, will we take care of the stones? How much of my well-being do you want to take away so that the stone does not die?
>caring about nature is fine
Oh sure. But why does that mean we have to conserve it?
Based we need to return to agrarian pocket society
MILES
Anon, the circumference of the earth is roughly 20,000 miles.
>old white frick shows me a video of animals raping and eating each other alive
>don't you want to keep it?
Of course not, problems?
>posts a quote from an old White frick to support his position against another old White frick
Whites really are the only relevant people in this world aren't they?
well if you have any quotes from african philosophers of the time on the subject we'll be happy to hear them
I would murder all of you people for the sake of turtles. I unironically value turtles more than a lot of human lives.
>edgy 14 year old kid named Brayson
Nah. I just don't value most human lives anymore. Certainly a lot of people I care about, but if I had to pick between nature and half of the current human population surviving I would happily pick nature. Your lives mean nothing to me.
yeah that’s what you said in your first post idiot
Buy a machine, or a grinder and aeropress if you're poor and make your own coffee homie. Chain coffee is fricking gross.
Doesn't matter. 99 percent of animals in nature die prematurely from disease, starvation, or from being eaten by the remaining 1 percent.
chinese fishing nets kill the turtles, not the plastic from first world.
I only pay the killers, I do not kill anyone myself.
That's finger pointing cope. It's a problem of both and that's a fact.
Pulling the "nuh uh it's all him" act is insanely pathetic, anon. LIke amoeba tier behaviour.
It's typical right wing scapegoating behavior. Not to say the left doesn't do it, but it's so fricking common for the right wing it's tiresome.
ironic
look in the mirror my cross dressing chinese friend
What I want to know is why do my plastic bags and straws end up in the ocean anyway? Is that not the fault of the ones in my nation tasked with managing refuse? How exactly is my trash getting from landfill in the middle of the country all the way out to sea?
Not my fault.
You knowingly vote for and pay to make it someone else's problem. Often a country without the means to effectively dispose of the rubbish. Because "out of sight out of mind" is your entire mantra. Like babies with no concept of object permanence.
PEEK A BOO ANON
I can just imagine you laughing your ass off at being peek-a-boo'd kek.
>You knowingly vote for and pay to make it someone else's problem.
Voting doesn't do anything but yes I do pay to make it someone else's problem. Should I did my own landfill in my back garden instead? Fricking homosexual. I do not give a shit about your moronic turtle choking on a shopping bag. That's HIS problem.
>starts an argument, loses it
>YES I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE POINT OF DISPUTE FROM THE BEGINNING
I don't care because the people who's job it is to keep things clean don't care. If they don't care why should I care? I have no say in the matter. Not worth caring about what I can't control. Read Meditations. Also where did I start an argument? My first post was simply querying why my shit ends up in the sea. I never actually claimed to care about it. You are just seething for no reason.
Haha you're on a mental one aren't you?
>Haha you're on a mental one aren't you?
Currently staving off alcohol withdrawal (which is pathetic in it's own right) and arguing with people on Cinemaphile is my primary therapy for getting through it.
Yes, I'm a c**t.
Why would anyone argue with you if you don't care about your arguments? Persuasion is not for everyone, for people like you there is coercion. You don't have to worry about the consequences of your lifestyle on other sentient beings.
What goes around comes around. It'll be your mum choking on a black dick soon enough. (Well she already is along with daddykins but it'll be out in the open and poor anon will be embarrassed.)
this is how liberals act when losing an argument
>BLACK DICK BLACK DICK I LOVE BLACK PENIS YUMMY
>That's HIS proble
But it will be you who will live in a capsule and eat bugs, not him.
What's wrong anon? You don't want to eat bugs? Well, that's your problem.
Shut the frick up you whiney british homosexual. Why is everyone in your country so fricking GAY?
>only britain uses british english
Could be Indian, Australian, Canadian, Chinese, Hong Kong, Kiwi, South African. You forget that the vast majority of spoken English in the world is British English. Burgers are a footnote soon to be forgotten.
But you're not, you're British and you're seething and coping that you can be identified by being a whiney fricking homosexual in a short text post.
Whatever helps you deflect from the point, anon. We can't talk about how anything is YOUR fault god-forbid. YOU are special, YOU are a good person, YOU are important.
You're a homosexual just like everyone else in your homosexual country
And you are a dog fricker. Go take poochie up the arse, anon. Daddy will help I'm sure on your bi-weekly """"hunting""""" trip. Kek.
Poor, abused dog. You owe reparations to that poor pooch. Abusive c**t.
>how could he possibly know I'm british?
Sounds more Australian than British to be fair.
t. brit
Just throw it all into hot magma. Earth will recycle it.
>voting
LMFAO
everybody point and laugh at the small chinese penis
What's wrong? This is how the market economy works. When you buy a product, you give your vote to its owner.
the second quoted anon in my post wasn’t meant to be on there
third worlders dumping their shit into rivers
most of seaa polluton come from china and india since they really don't give a shit
Which was actually massively cut down when they started saying no to accepting western plastic disposal and those same western countries threw a fit. I remember Canada having a particularly bad tantrum with...was it Indonesia? When they started telling them to deal with their own mess.
Pathetic.
There can be no moral argument in favor of preserving nature. Nature may seem beautiful to such bomer buttholes, but that's not a moral argument.
I remember watching a program with this dick, he cut his leg on some snag, so after that he shot himself with antibiotics that his film crew carries everywhere with them lol, such a nature lover does not want a piece of this very nature in his body.
HE IS A LIAR AND A GLOBALIST SHILL
David Bellamy spoke the truth and was pushed out of TV because of it.
thats literally boomer mentality. individualism is the cancer that made the 70s and 80s so shitty.
vegans hate him so I love him
why is it that everyone says we have to save the planet but when someone like hitler puts into practice the actual way to save the planet aka genocide everyone loses their minds
if you want to save the planet then just kill all the indians, chinese and africans. simple as.
>kill all the indians, chinese and africans
And Americans, don't forget the burgers.
this old fart has done more to damage the environment than probably 10000 families put together
>nooo we have to save the heckin animalerinos!!!!!! brb i will now jet around the world with my crew of several hundred people and multiple planes and vehicles and tonnes of equipment for months and months every single year and then I will broadcast my footage across the world taking up insane amounts of energy before going home to (one of many) my multimillion pound estate with substantial acreage
frick off
then drink from a fricking mug you dumb tripple Black person
It's amazing how we are able to fly into space, and at the same time, there are still people who believe in all sorts of spiritual nonsense like balance in ecosystems. I mean, Druid is my favorite class in the World of Warcraft, but let's not mix up reality and fantasy.
Ignore colony collapse and the bee decline, don't worry about it. Only 35% of the food the world depends on requires animal pollinators and that's only one impact on the chain. It'll be fine, it's all made up anyway right?
Y'know, there was a time when "35% of the food the world depends on" wasn't contingent on bees... and the world didn't explode.
No there wasn't.
>Hunger didn't exist before humans
Wtf does this mean, moron? Pesticides that kill bees didn't exist before humans, of course.
>There was no famine before the use of pesticides
ok
Lol. People below a certain IQ threshold should be banned from communicating their input.
>IQ
Found the brainlet
you looked in a mirror?
>seething about IQ
Only a low IQ person would do this, lmao.
You've only exposed your own moronation.
>using IQ, ever
moron
>being low IQ
I'm so sorry anon.
>t. took an IQ test and didn't like the result
t. took some facebook boomer test that blew smoke up his ass and actually fell for it
IQ tests are great because they demonstrate someone who is stupid. Anyone who takes it seriously instantly outs themselves as a midwit, it's great.
Sounds like the sort of cope a moronic person would come up with.
you know what would really be a midwit move? Shitting up the thread with an argument about IQ.
ok moron
i love liberals sometimes
>People who expose my ideological bullshit should be silenced
you can try
animals arent real wake up
>categories of human language are not real
Wow you are a genius. Is it like how we arbitrarily divide the continuity of sensory experience into separate categories for convenience? Wow.
no, animals literally do not exist. theyre all cgi
>ozon layer
>throw away old fridges they ruin the environment
>icebergs are melting soon well be underwater
>5 more years
>rainforests
>wildfires
>global warming
>climate change
whats the next big envionmentalist thing
Icebergs melting makes no difference to water level you moron
d9nt tell me that
It's the ice shelf that makes the difference, not bergs. Their mass already displaces water, the shelf is on the antarctic continent with freshwater
>humanity is responsible for the extinction of more than 80% of the world's animals since the beginning of the 20th century.
It probably even outweighs the suffering we inflict on farm animals. The existence of humans is net positive for animals.
Use a reusable metal cup instead of buying plastic lined paper and plastic lids with your hot drink you plastic blooded homosexual.
If coffee shops didn't have to cater to the lowest common denominator we wouldn't be in this fricking mess.
this is going to be a brain twister for some of you, but suffering ≠ evil. It's a state of heightened energy. You may have seen threads about women and rape, or men going off to die for ZOG. A sexless, immobile noodle person may look at those things and say humanity is doomed to suffer an endless torture world. but really, that misrepresents the energy and context of "suffering."
this should be first grade education but instead most people have to be on drugs to realize basic truths
This guy doesn't know what he's talking about. If I do not kill this turtle, it will die of disease or starvation, or maybe it will be eaten by a shark, on the other hand, if the turtle continues to live, it will also eat someone, or it will eat food that another animal could eat and now that animal will starve to death.
DUDE YOU'RE LITERALLY KILLING HUNDREDS OF TURTLES RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU BECAUSE YOU KEEPING EATING THEIR EGGS
>STOP TELLING ME TO BE RESPONSIBLE, I NEED TO CONSOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!
all you anti-old people morons realise you're going to be old one day right
No, they're moronic zoomers.
i dont want to live on this earth 40 years from now are you fricking kidding?
WHAT THE FRICK NOBODY TOLD ME
WHAT THE FRICK THATS IMPOSSIBLE HOW IS THAT A THING WHATTT???
>developed world removed all its forests
>got rich
>third world does that same
NO YOU HAVE TO STAT IN POVERTY THINK OF THE ANIMALS
Yes.
Environmentalism isn't necessarily wrong, but it does conflict with leftism.
>huge swaths of forests in california
ur just straight up wrong
Don't tell him about the arctic tree line
>ignoring thagit covered the continent
Are you intentional moronic? Do you not know about European forests too?
>developed world removed all its forests
>is proven wrong
>calls others stupid
>he doesn't understand what a forest is
he's right. Go look at Europe on google earth and then look at the Congo. Africa and Brazil are where Europe was 10,000 years ago.
North America is a modern innovation with lots of forest land per capita, they cut down all they needed.
personally im all for global hunger because of crop failures because it will encourage autarky and ecofacsism
Coffee is disgusting.
I can't watch nature documentaries anymore. It used to be one of my favorite things but I can not take anything whinging moralist lesson from an butthole flying around the world doing more ecological damage than I ever will
>sister is a teacher and making new major to teach biology in middle school
>told me that 90% of stuff she supposed to teach is about global warming and negative impact people and overpopulation has on earth
new zoomers will be so brainwashed they will want to eat bugs, own nothing and be happy
All it takes is changing one generation and the entire house of cards collapses 🙂
What do you possess that is more important than happiness?
>I'm smart because an online test designed to flatter me so I share my results and thus spread the website and drive ad revenue to them says I have a good number
2022 and people still do this
I don't think it'll never not be a valid. People are just too stupid to notice this extremely successful strategy (successful on stupid people. To be clear, you are stupid)
>still seething over something moronic
>trembling in fear and can't directly address anyone, like an autistic
Yep, moron confirmed.
>People take IQ seriously
>Mensa has a membership fee
If this doesn't elucidate the matter kek
>be moron
>be constantly told you are a moron
>think "I'll show them!"
>take an IQ test
>score low, confirmed to be a moron
>seethe
>cope for the rest of your life by saying IQ tests don't matter and you're actually dumb for scoring high
>I don't think it'll never not be a valid
>it'll never not be a valid
Looks like you made a mistake, making your argument null and void.
We collectively accept your concession.
holy shit get over it
you’ll be smart once you admit you’re stupid
What is leftist conservation of nature. That is nature should be what the leftists want it to see - a bloodbath in the struggle for survival. If somewhere human actions have reduced the level of suffering and violence in nature, then they must be rolled back. This is another proof that liberals are the servants of Satan.
>What is leftist conservation of nature
an excuse to take your shit. never anything more.
THIS. The leftists in my area banned elk hunting, instead they brought wolves into the forests to tear the elk apart.
>using and owing weapons of murder is okay but nature isn't
Why do you want to kill things?
I just want to kill as little as possible and as painlessly as possible. You probably won’t understand, because you don’t take into account the consequences of your actions beyond what you see with your eyes, as well as your inaction.
if you kill everything once, nothing ever has to hurt again! Just gas the whole area, yourself included.
Life um, finds a way.
The fact is, if you want more animals to be killed and as brutally as possible, then you take out a credit card and go to the grocery store. Otherwise, you take a rifle and go into the forest.
The supposed brutality of the animal food chain (and fake bad-faith empathy for random animals) is the most pathetic brainlet idea in this entire thread.
>complains about people being able to own cars to get to their second jobs
>flies across the globe on a private jet to film some shitty frog
Thank science that the experts are destroying the environment buy mining trillions of tons of lithium so that we can build electric cars to save the environment
OP should be force fed plastic bags
So because China can do what it likes I can't have a coffee?
>YOU HAVE TO BEHAVE HOW I SAY. I'M A BIG GROWN UP AND YOU ARE LE BABY HA HA HA
>durr, all that matters is reducing pain in the world
why? You can't think of any better moral standard? Here, I'll give you one: life matters. Animals deserve to be alive and they deserve to be different from one another, wolves and bears included.
>immediately uses gay coded language
From my completely selfish and utterly correct solipsistic view of the universe the animals are me so why would I want them to suffer?
obviously because suffering is important. You need to suffer in order to live a good life as well.
Of course, fewer predators - more living beings. By removing predators, you leave nutrients and energy for other animals.
If you want less predators then dissolve the church
more living beings ≠ more life. Everything being genetically the same is only one step from death.
Of course, I'm talking all other things being equal. Are you dumb?
so am I, idiot. Try to keep up.
Moron. Don't you think that if I presented an argument in favor of my statement, then you should answer it?
I did. More individuals ≠ more life, all things being equal.
Great, how did you calculate it?
Numbers. Big ones beat smaller ones.
Give me your numbers and tell how did you get them.
so you have a wolf and an elk that's 2. 2 species. They have complex interactions because they've spent millions of years together. Kill the wolf, you have 1 which is less than 2. Elks multiply but the environment actually became less complex. Also the elk multiplication could damage other species or lead to trouble for the elk themselves because they usually have predators. Human hunters are supposed to replace the wolves, but they can only do a fraction of what more life was doing.
that's mixing, not diversity. Created by habitat destruction lmao
>It is good to introduce aggressive animals into the habitat of deer.
>To introduce aggressive animals into my habitat is bad.
Yes I understand.
I thought you were the one who didn't want wolves and bears around.
Great, you will live with blacks and muslims, because you love the variety of life forms.
I still don't understand why I can't control peoples population by feeding them to my dog. Are we overpopulated or not, damn it?