Do you think the girlboss archetype will quietly fade out in the coming years?
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Do you think the girlboss archetype will quietly fade out in the coming years?
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Yes, I think it will fade. It will disappear gradually, when the people making shows and movies realise that women don't even like those characters. It's still alive for now, because even that Fallout shit coming out has a female lead.
>women don't even like those characters
It doesn't matter what audiences like, but what studio bigwigs like. Girlboss movies get made for the same reason as Holocaust movies
>Girlboss movies get made for the same reason as Holocaust movies
Mhm. What happens if I don't watch? Have they not wasted their time? Yes. I'm smarter than those people, which is why I understand this. It doesn't matter what they make, if I don't watch. I named everything in the image, and I haven't seen any of it:
>What happens if I don't watch? Have they not wasted their time?
You don't watch but a lot of people do. Nowadays with streaming services they can just fake the viewership.
Eventually the lack of an audience will kill the industry but it can limp along with unpopular films for quite a while - it's been doing so for about 15 years
>You don't watch but a lot of people do
Okay, but that doesn't affect me at all. Everyone has the right to watch whatever they want, and I said so here:
Am I in a thread for any of the shows being mentioned? No, I'm in a thread for people that don't enjoy them.
No. Deadpool 3 is going to be filled to the brim with girl bosses. Fantastic Four focuses on a black woman for half the film.
Let me ask you something: aside from the female(male) writer who creates those characters as a self-insert, who the frick likes them?
Females like bland/neurotic underdog female characters they can identify with, males like female characters they would wanna date.
Nobody likes "strong independent woman who will die alone".
I can actually name every show and movie in that image, but I haven't seen a single one.
>Captain Marvel
>Echo
>She-Hulk
>Rings of Power
>Madame Web
Ask me how many I've seen. The answer is none. None of those characters appeal to me, as a man.
>who the frick likes them?
You answered your own question; The people who write them like them. These characters are all written by unlikeable people.
>These characters are all written by unlikeable people.
Unlikeable IGNORANT motherfrickers.
Women have no desire to act like men as fighters....because they have men to do that. What appeals to women isn't a "badass" that's fighting men, but it's the woman that uses her femininity and sexuality to manipulate men. Women see these stupid "girlbosses" in these fake ass fights with men, and think it looks dumb, just like the rest of us. They know the difference between us, and know that when it comes down to it, most of them could get their asses beaten and raped by teenage boys, let alone full grown men.
Men don't to women as role models, and we don't look to them as "action stars", because we're the ones that women come to to open the pickle jar, carry the heavy box, and reach the shit on the top shelf. Women "fighters" just look stupid, and little more than children compared to men. It's the men of society that will be forced to do the heavy lifting and put their lives on the line, not women, and the superhero is one of the classic characters that help men understand about their duty and role in society as protectors.
~~*Hollywood*~~ won't figure it out, though, because their hatred of the white majority is stronger than any sense of reason they have. So do your duty and hate them back, and never give them any of your money.
>their hatred of the white majority
I liked your post up until I saw this. What white majority? You mean the 10% of the planet? The other 90% thinks this shit is absolutely laughable. It's just that the people who make these shows all live in bubbles, and they have no idea what people want. Also, they probably don't care what people want. That leads to people not watching.
I really hope they continue making this garbage, because it's their own lives they're wasting.
I was agreeing with you, which is why I said the viewers have no standards. I didn't watch it.
>Rings of power
Close, it's "Rangz of powwah".
>Nobody likes "strong independent woman who will die alone and doesn't entertain the male gaze".
FTFY
I like girlbosses in HK/nip movies. I can suspend my disbelief better because I respect that the 90lb actress is doing all that fight choreography and/or superhuman stunt work herself.
Only asians do this correctly.
>Cast a young up and comer
>Make her do all her stunts
>Throw her through fire, glass, just beat the shit out of her
>Dress her sexy or cute tthroughout the film
>And ofcourse the shower scene
There are signs suggesting it will start slowing down, but we're going to have another couple of years of it, minimum. Even if Echo had last minute edits to disconnect it from Daredevil: Born Again it was still grll powa hour, complete with a seventy year old woman beating up Kingpin's goons and Echo herself shaming Kingpin into being a better person. The current rumor is Fantastic Four is going to be Sue-focused, and 'Mr. Fantastic' is her insult for her insufferable husband. Amazon has doubled down on Rings of Power and Wheel of Time.
>Amazon has doubled down on Rings of Power
Yep, there's going to be a season 2. I also mentioned Fallout, which will be Rings of Power adjacent. My only hope is that the people who watch those shows enjoy them.
>the humiliation of the ritualee
Everything there was a humiliation ritual for the women involved, and one of them (Dakota Johnson) even admitted it. The actors did it for the money, and so did everyone who worked on them. It's all super soulless.
No, Mario movie with girlboss Peach did 1b in box office.
Inb4 "the movie is secretely redpilled"
That's just proof that Nintendo fans, and children, have no standards. Plus, Peach is attractive, which is the major difference between her and these women.
Compared to Game Peach she's a coldfish.
I don't see how Galadriel is comparable to these others since her storyline was actually a critique of girlbosses
>her storyline was actually a critique of girlbosses
Yeah, no. I don't think you've ever actually seen a story like that. Have you seen Sicario? That's a much better criticism of strong female characters. Unless Galadriel was unimportant to the story, then you're wrong.
>Have you seen Sicario? That's a much better criticism of strong female characters
I'm not sure the filmmakers were aware of that
Hoping that we'll eventually see a wave of post-postmodernism (or traditionalism?) where the modern/Hollywood girlboss archetype is deconstructed and/or parodied, starting from indie creators until it gains popular ground.
Like the Devil Wears Prada? Or every single romantic comedy from 1990-2010?
>Yeah, no
She starts the season full girlboss and then you see her at the end getting violated and pathetically crying into the arms of the man who had to save her.
Barely anybody in the shows likes her and all her girlbossing did was to piss everybody off, got them killed and annoyed satan so much he decided to be evil again.
Definitely was a critique of lone wolf/girlboss knows best tropes.
Feel free to make a thread about Rings of Power, and talk about it there, because I'm never watching. I'm guessing it's so popular that you don't dare make a thread, because the discussion will be too lively.
>That's a much better criticism of strong female characters.
She was chosen not becuase shes a girl boss but because shes naive fbi agent. A critique of the girl boss is that back chick from star ship troopers getting her arm burned off.
Asians and only asians are able to pull off the girl boss architype.
Who cares?
It's not like girlboss is the only issue. It's just one of a thousand problems.
they should just follow the comics, these producers amy pascal, kevin feige don't know who the people who pay for tickets to see these movies really are, they're making them for an audience that doesn't exist, in the comics they're awesome but the writers of the movies don't know how to write female characters and there's still the famous miscast, as long as they cast brie larson and gal gadot for these key heroine roles who wear leotards in comics and diapers in movies, will never work
That second image is just Saoirse Ronan. It looks exactly like her, but they keep casting actresses that nobody likes. I think Saoirse would decline the role anyway.
Saoirse is too flat for this kind of role.
Well, the face is identical. If you want face and body, I think it's impossible. Even if you found someone who looked like that, they probably couldn't act.
Doesn't matter if they cast prime Pamela Anderson, they'll put her in a burqua too
The comic character changed drastically around 2012 or so. No leotard, different attitude, etc. And then Kamala Khan happened too.
girl bosses have been around since the 1980s. They aren't going anywhere.
Baldur's Gate 3 juts won game of the year and is a world wide cultural phenomenon
Almost every single female character is an unfeminine girlboss
You can apply the same to the current state of anime too, people just love these kind of characters.
It's funny how out of touch Cinemaphile is, even compared to other boards on Cinemaphile
>Almost every single female character is an unfeminine girlboss
Have you even played Baldur's Gate 3? Shadowheart isn't a girlboss, and Lae'zel is tough on the outside, soft on the inside. Those characters are liked because intelligent people wrote them. There's a huge different between that, and what happens in TV and Film.
huge difference*
>Have you even played Baldur's Gate 3?
Yes and it's the wokest most girlboss heavy thing in popular culture.
Every corner you turn there is a woman with dyed hair in armour + sword (with no apparent family) angrily barking orders at men as they scramble to do her bidding.
Do you really need me to start reeling off the dozens of story relevant characters that fit this mould in BG3? It's like getting waterboarded by girlbosses.
If you disliked those characters, why didn't you just kill them? Do you know you can do that? Even your companions can die if you don't like them. You can replace them with henchmen.
I never killed Shadowheart or Lae'zel, because they were likeable people. If someone didn't like them, or any of the NPCs, you can straight up murder everyone. For someone to complain about the characters in Baldur's Gate 3, tells me they haven't played the game.
Here's my playtime, if anyone doubts I actually played it. Even if you hate everyone, you can side with the bad guys to kill the people you meet. The game was not made by idiots, and they actually considered
>what if people don't like the characters we made
and they gave those people an option.
That's stupid reasoning that deflects from the issue.
>Don't like bear sex in the game? Just don't do it, bro
But it being there at all is the issue. Why is it like that in the first place? Why make the decisions as a dev? I'm criticizing the whole artistic merit and vision.
Plus you're not living up to your own standards when you do that. If you think the proper response to things you don't like is to be quiet and never say anything, then why are you posting about this?
>If you think the proper response to things you don't like is to be quiet and never say anything, then why are you posting about this?
I'm posting about it, because I loved Baldur's Gate 3. Do you think I didn't? I thought the game was amazing. You're the one who's saying it isn't good. Do you have any self-awareness?
You're posting about people complaining about it.
Yes, and I was saying that there's an option in the game to kill everyone, if you don't like the characters. Thanks for this low quality reply. I'm likely replying to a woman, and now filtering the thread. Please assume I'm joking. Please realise you entered this thread because the rest of the board is people like you.
>Announcing that you're no longer going to participate instead of just ceasing to participate
>Then calling others women based on their behavior
Nah you're ot going to do anything but the same thing you've been doing.
And yes I understand the character thing and saying it's stupid. "You can kill the characters" is a thought terminating moron approach to "why are the characters like this?" It's also doubly moronic because character interaction is the central part of a CRPG like this.
>Yes and it's the wokest most girlboss heavy thing in popular culture.
>Every corner you turn there is a woman with dyed hair in armour + sword (with no apparent family) angrily barking orders at men as they scramble to do her bidding.
You literally didn't play the game, shut the frick up.
How do I get this shit out of my recommended?
I watched some before it was alright and all but now hearing these talking points over and over again just make it obnoxious as frick.
I'm telling YouTube to not recommend both the videos and channels to me but I still get them back into my recommendations at random.
Culture wars are manufactured because as it turns out, people do vote with their wallets but no matter who you "vote" for, the winners are always the same.
Eventually, yeah.
Actors themselves seem tired of these kinds of roles. Emily Blunt has explicitly said she avoids "strong female characters", and you have to imagine people like Brie Larson and Daisy Ridley have realized they probably would be more respected as artists nowadays if they didn't take the roles of Captain Marvel and Rey.
Couple that with recent flops and I can see this character archetype being quietly dropped.
>I can see this character archetype being quietly dropped
I think so too, once they realise that even women don't like them. They'll begin to ask themselves who the characters are even made for, and the answer is "themselves". They likely want all women to hate men like they do, but the idea doesn't seem to be popular. I think women would rather be liked, and that's why they dislike these characters.
>respected as artists
They're actors. They're human props for actual artists to pose, dress, and speak through.
Much like with "woke", these people will always just stretch the terms to be right. If there's a successful one, that's actually anti-woke, a deconstruction of "girlboss" or whatever.