Morning anons! Seems the hiatus was shorter than we were expecting and we've gotten a thriller of a new comic to end it out this weekend. Big things in here.
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Big implications here, and it says a lot about the rest of the Emmy the robot world, and even some fan stuff as well.
Sorry for (literally) falling asleep at the wheel last week, but as always, please remember to ignore and report obvious bait, trolling, spam and shitposting.
>robots used in Vietnam war
Willowbros?
Kil yourself nantales
This is dixie
Aaaaand back to your containment thread
junk spam
Go back to your thread nantales
>tall glasses plain jane
Fan art NOW
>The Dark Age
AIEEEE Emmy thread reference!!!
>robot Vietnam
Now I'm just imagining that panel from Watchmen of the Comedian using the flamethrower, only it's a Nandroid.
Glad to see Dom is finally pointing out the elephant in the room.
the real elephant in the room:
thank god yes, we did.
also does anyone know about these avery recolors i keep seeing? they arent bad at all, just interesting.
Not sure if they are recolors, Avery was just originally drawn with black hair before the red variant became more popular an stuck.
Avery looks good with black hair, but freckled red haired Avery is still the best. She looks hot with her red hair and her freckles.
Creation of the choker crew and lulu/sammy/avery/etc etc is always a good thing.
CREATE MORE!
Just don't make them sentient why is that so hard?
Obviously sentient robots provided a needed service, enough to ignore the ethical problems associated with it.
Too late for that now.
I like to think they didn't intentionally set out to make sentient robots, it was an unintended side effect of trying to make them smarter, and once people realized that they've basically created a new artificial human-like species it was too late.
have a transparent edit
improved ver
That's hot.
>all men
>all male robots
>all immaculately muscled
Bros... it's perfect...
Dom knows what he's doing.
>dom acknowledges the background anti-robot sentiments of wendy's story
>dom casually drops that nandroids served and fought in vietnam
>dom finally acknowledge's the fandom at heart with blacked imagery
masterful
I know I am replying to bait but there is nothing about "nandroids in Vietnam" here, just some unspecified robots in Vietnam.
cope cope cope nantaleschads stay winning
>commie propaganda shit
>Humans and robots are working together bro xDD
>where the future is made
CRINGE
I want a technopatriachy society where human men are the top and female robots are made to serve human men and provide them. Now this is the future I'd like to follow.
That's pretty much the society of Hawthorne Grove in the comic. As we're seeing, they're living in a bubble of privilege.
>Vietnam
homie I'm done, frick this shit
same, referencing wendy is one thing but to kowtow to nantales is another
what?
Man, human beings are BULLSHIT.
We invent a technology that can make it so that everyone's needs are provided for, no need to toil for a living. And we use it to intensify wealth disparity when we could abolish it.
I'm on the side of robots. Frick it, they don't even have to kill me last.
Like the comic says, "it didn't seem like a bad idea at the time." Automation increases the standard of living. That it increases some peoples' standards more than others is not the automaton's fault.
There will always be at least few workers, even in maximum automation. You still need somebody to design the next robot, code the next update, think up the next great idea, etc even if most of the heavy lifting gets done by machine in the end.
Don't forget spacefaring robots
No launch can go frick himself
>design the next robot, code the next update, think up the next great idea
Which robots will end up being able to do on their own too, kek. You're obsolete chud
Robots making better robots and programming smarter AI is how you get an AI overlord real quick, if this civilization isn't moronic they'll keep the design process in human hands and let the machines just do the labor.
>chud
Weird moron
>if this civilization isn't moronic
>sends robots to Vietnam to fight for them
>Smiles and is just fine when people start to overtly attack these robots for being inferior
>Thinks robots who are fully self aware would just abide by servitude to mankind at no gain to themselves
All it takes is one jannybot with his walkman taken away, anon
The answer is recognition of robot rights, acknowledging them as people in the truest sense of the word, maybe pass legislation to provide a set of protections/rights equal to those that humans enjoy.
>There will always be at least few workers, even in maximum automation.
>You still need somebody to design the next robot, code the next update, think up the next great idea, etc
I'm not saying we just sit on our asses all day like in WALL-E. It could have been a golden age of science, art, philosophy, exploration, when we shedded the shackles of toiling for a living and collectively embraced working for a purpose.
The catch with that line if thinking is that the people not suited for that line of work don't just disappear.
Too bad, law of offer and demand, if you're less productive than the alternative of course you're going to get sidelined.
Cruel, but that's just how it is. I'm not going to lag behind the competition because of someone else's job security.
The USA already did that when its companies shipped most of its manufacturing to hypercheap Asian dystopias in the 1970's, and ended the golden age of science and engineering it'd been riding since the 1880s. The science and exploration you speak of occurred in those factories' labs and engineering departments. Now you go to school to learn how to be a debt slave for eternity.
>people not suited for that line of work don't just disappear
That's not a problem, they're still provided for. At no expense to the people actually working, because automation has abolished scarcity. You wouldn't be working to support those who aren't. You would be working to accomplish whatever you're passionate about;
>Turns out when you take away work, people [...] sit around watching TV and eating and getting fat and having heart attacks.
Sure, people are free to do that if they want. Again, it doesn't matter.
I'm talking about the possibility of truly free will. What would we do with our well-being assured and our time truly our own? Maybe nothing. Maybe everything beyond our wildest shackled dreams. Either way it's a desirable outcome.
>What would we do with our well-being assured and our time truly our own? Maybe nothing
Precedent tells me this is the most likely, with a small percentage of driven individuals trying to advance their own interests for their own personal reasons. I genuinely do not believe that if you met all of humanity's basic daily needs it would result in a burst of creativity and productiveness. You'd need a better populace to get that sort of outcome, the current one is a complete write-off.
What precedent do we have?
>You'd need a better populace to get that sort of outcome, the current one is a complete write-off.
A better populace requires access to culture and education,which most people don't have because of wealth inequality. If we wait for a better populace to exist before we start providing for their needs, we're dooming ourselves to subhuman life.
Did you just miss out on two years of people being paid to stay home? It didn't result in anything but increased depression and a few more netflix subscriptions. People are lazy, stupid, unmotivated and uninterested in changing any of that, largely speaking.
>A better populace requires access to culture and education,which most people don't have because of wealth inequality
Oh, you're just one of those. "Surely humans will be perfect, we just need to remove <enemy> first!"
>Did you just miss out on two years of people being paid to stay home?
I did. I live in a country where not only that didn't happen, unemployment and starvation are at a historical high. We're all fricking doomed here.
But lemme ask: in the US, was there any place where emergency support maintained people's standards of living? I was under the impression your emergency support was mostly propaganda and people had to keep on working or live nearly in misery.
>you're just one of those.
I am, yes. But,
>"Surely humans will be perfect,
Not perfect, better.
>we just need to remove <enemy> first!"
Not remove enemy, improve conditions.
this.
I'm around people who have all the time in the world to do whatever they want (not just retired elderly, but 30/40 somethings) and they just sort of vegetate in place, despite having accessible entertainment, free/low-cost cultural places to visit or socializing hobbies in walking distance. They just sit on their couch, idling until death or something happens.
Sad as it is, some people need work to define themselves.
>some people need work to define themselves.
I'm sure some people do, maybe a lot of people do. But that's not the same as saying "people need work to define themselves".
>not just retired elderly, but 30/40 somethings
>all the time in the world to do whatever they want
I'll bite, who are these people? How did they get in that situation? How do I apply?
It depend, but it can be anything between having rich parents to abusing the system and getting government handouts, or just having made big bucks with a previous job, and at least one of the people I know won a decent sum at the lottery.
I don't count those who take at-home hobbies or who have medical reasons, tho.
Granted they could be doing stuff they don't talk about, but I doubt you can fake this level of apathy when a neighbor say hi to you through your window.
Shit, they don't even do gardening, I'd understand it if this was in a city, but no, it's on the outskirt of a small town.
Kek, sadly I can relate. I've been "between jobs" for a few months now, I've saved enough money to last a while, but all the wonderful and productive things I imagined myself doing during all this newfound free time don't seem to be going anywhere.
yeah. Been there, done that.
everyone need a motivator, it can be something/someone else or come from within, but I've found that without a work week to force me to have a routine and limit my time, everything just blur together. Used the threads as a way to reference the passing of time for a while, but then the days between just blurred again.
Only started to get coherent again when I got a job. Made me interact with people too, which is... not really a plus because I hate people, but I don't feel deranged anymore. I hate that I need this to function as a human being, but what can you do.
>because automation has abolished scarcity
Yeah, that's not going to happen. People will inevitably find new things to be scarce, so there will always be a reason for folks to work for them.
Turns out when you take away work, people don't really do much productive stuff, they do just sorta sit around watching TV and eating and getting fat and having heart attacks. I like Star Trek TNG too but I doubt people will ever have a system where you can just wake up and go apply for Starfleet because you like the idea, and not for career/financial reasons.
Turns out that blowing up random weddings and outdoor cafés doesn't win you a war, no matter how many flying robots you send in.
>I'm not saying we just sit on our asses all day like in WALL-E
WALL-E was a great movie, I loved that movie when I was a kid.
I fricking love WALL-E. It's one of the best works of animation I've ever seen; maybe one of the best movies, period.
>You still need somebody to design the next robot, code the next update, think up the next great idea, etc
With the robot's having reached human-level of intelligence, this may not be true;
We've seen Emmy have some limited form of creativity (that's how I interpret her being able to lie and play pretend on her own, and when she hid the stain with a ribbon) even as a relatively restricted machine, a machine being able to do any of the things human already can doesn't look like a far fetched concern there.
Even irl, there are AIs that can somewhat code, even if it's only correcting/filling the gaps for human programmers, and computers have been used for streamlining mechanical/electronics designs for years already.
I have to admire the use of 1930s-style Idealization of Labor art here. FDR would be proud.
>scrap GR
What's GR?
General Robotics, newbie
have a nice day, serious answer nantales
Don't answer if you have nothing constructive to say you parasite I need to shame a femoid for being a babykiller
Probably General Robotics, one of the other robot-manufacturing companies Dom mentioned. I suspect they're the folks who supplied the robot soldiers in the Emmyverse's Vietnam war.
SOME FOLKS ARE BORN, MADE TO WAVE THE FLAG
If the current state of Dupont as an analog to Newark or Detroit or Hardford is any indication, the manufacturer's solution seems like it was to bail on the States and build them elsewhere. Switzerland in Sterling's case, unless their factory was always there. An earlier Darcy strip showed what looks like a Murdoc-Ray manufacturing building. It's clock is operating but its smokestack is dormant on a school day, i.e. a normal manufacturing work day. It could be mothballed while the company waits for a more favorable manufacturing environment, if the Dark Age resulting in neither human workers or robot workers being used.
>Switzerland in Sterling's case, unless their factory was always there
I'm pretty sure that's the case, though I'd have to check the Patreon descriptions on those older lore drops to make sure.
It's a good thing Dom switched to putting text directly into images for these lore posts, making it easier to save and share as one image.
>An earlier Darcy strip showed what looks like a Murdoc-Ray manufacturing building
Looks more like an (abandoned?) store building to me, not enough chimneys for a factory and too many adverts.
Horry shit
>IT AIN’T ME, IT AIN’T ME
Im glad their not pussy footing around the actual implications sentient robots. Robots are cheep labor with very limited rights and are easily replaceable, Humans have less employment opportunities and are also replaceable by the literal thousands looking for work! EVERYONE LOOSES! except the rich.
>Emmy reading about the protests and human suffering
>Vietnam War
Now draw her getting dicked by Marcus after failing to ambush his platoon
Marshall Brain wrote about this sort of thing years ago.
Not sure if this is the exact article i remember, but it's similar.
>https://reasonandmeaning.com/2017/03/20/summary-of-marshall-brains-robotic-nation-2/
If vast numbers of people lose their jobs and don't get some other source of income, they'll revolt! When things got bad in the Soviet Union, the Politburo ordered the army to suppress the uprising. The army refused and the USSR collapsed. But robotic soldiers/police might have "stayed loyal".
So, what do you do with millions of people the State no longer needs? You could kill them. And I supposed there are totalitarian regimes which wouldn't hesitate to cull the population. Or you could "buy them off" as Rome once did. Bread and circuses. Guaranteed annual incomes and television.
Would people crack up without something to do, something to give them a sense of "self respect"? Many would. Some would undoubtedly take up hobbies, art, further education. On the other hand, think of all the SF stories of generation starships and people going mad with boredom. We all know someone who'd be perfectly content for 40 years with Netflix and videogames. "Go to your room" isn't the punishment it once was.
i can see it going to down like that comic, where robots took over and only care about humanity's immersion to sensations.
They cut human heads off, put them into little pods that causes mental torment because its the strongest sensation they can feel and just stash them in a hole in the ground.
>think of all the SF stories of generation starships and people going mad with boredom.
I read one a couple years ago called Orphans of the Sky about a generation ship that had suffered a revolt several generations into the long voyage resulting in near total loss of the operating crew. The ship kept hurtling towards its distant objective and after several more generations all knowledge of what the ship even was got lost, people never knowing that there even was an 'outside' or that they were in transit someplace. Ship's operation (mostly just recycling materials to a big mechanism) became a religious ritual, kept up for posterity alone without understanding what the purpose was.
I don't have a point, it was just a very good read.
That's Robert Heinlein and was the 2nd story to deal with a generation starship. It's considered a classic.
The 1st, "The Voyage which lasted 600 years" by Don Wilcox, is virtually forgotten today.
I recently read one where they made the hull of the starship transparent so the crew couldn't forget there was an "outside"
>Seems the hiatus was shorter than we were expecting and we've gotten a thriller of a new comic
Monthly patreon bonus posts come out regardless of the main story being on hiatus or not. There might still not be a new chapter next week.
Also it's technically not even a comic.
>There might still not be a new chapter next week
Aw bummer. But in retrospect that strip seems more suited for the LORE patreon stuff than the normal strip, so you're probably right and the hiatus is still on.
Anyway, I'm very happy to see Dom finally touch upon this part of the lore and show anti-robot sentiments existing in this universe.
And I especially like how familiar this panel seems.
>"Your first encounter with androids at your first job at the harbor, holding the strike line arm-in-arm with your fellow man against scabs and their automaton guards, the roar of the crowd when their polished metal skulls hissed open from thrown bricks."
Wendychads win again
>hiatus is over
It's a festivus miracle!
May have misspoken there, sorry, but Dom didn't say explicitly that.
This comic is getting more and more like Animatrix the second Reinassance, the fact Emily backstory is identical to B1-66ER is not helping
>Emily
Emmy
>Emily
ok aunt Ginny
>Avery came out of nowhere giving you this expression
What would you do? And what would you react?
Deliver a roundhouse kick to her face and walk away with Savitri and Denise in each arm
oh hey its caillou
>Ethics Code
OH NO NO NO ASIMOV BROS
Why is the thumbnail spoiled? It doesn't even contain lewd content.
Gynoid robots are needed to replace femoids and in order to make every human men to get their own wives and end female hypergamy. Every human men can get pussy now, no more male loneliness.
>America used robots to fight in Vietnam and they STILL lost
Or do you think Vietnam had robots of their own? Do you think the USSR had robots? The setting is really starting to take an interesting shape. I hope we get more lore strips in the future. I hope we get some cool robots fighting in vietnam art
>Do you think the USSR had robots?
We know that much for certain, don't we? I thought the astronaut robot from the bonus comic a few months ago was Russian.
Also if China industrialized a little earlier they might have been able to field plenty of junker bots to overwhelm the invaders. I wonder if those mitigating factors would result in a drastically different, or basically unchanged outcome?
Stop interacting with him and the other gay trying to spam abortion shit(inb4 hurr durr you must like abortion and/or be a woman/never a woman simply because you don't want to argue about abortions in a comic thread)
I do recall but if Soviet Russia is still Soviet Russia it's still hard to say if they could produce a large amount of robots that actually worked—let alone send fighting machines to the vietkong. At the time, factory production was really shoddy in Russia, where in WW2 for example Russian soldiers were almost told to not use their supplied Russian made landmines since they were so crudely made that they were more likely to blow up as you set them than kill an enemy, so soldiers often reused enemy landmines instead. There are many reasons for the issues with production that stemmed both from promises made before the revolution and the compromises made after communism took control. Using and producing robots under the soviet union would have many ideological and logistical difficulties so making functioning automatons outside of a very controlled and high profile setting might not be viable—especially with the tight grip the government had on the private sector (and the money simply having to go elsewhere with all the already moving infrastructural and expansive plans in place)
As cool as it would be to have robotic stalin bots and robot viet cong fighting robot marines it's just too hard to imagine Russia keeping par in this robot revolution
Sorry, I'm a bit hungover (or am I still drunk?) because I accidentally didn't write the rest of my thoughts one of which being that maybe it was the aid of combat robots that changed the outcome of the war ala Dr Manhattan in Watchmen
>Or do you think Vietnam had robots of their own? Do you think the USSR had robots?
We know that much, seems there was a robotics race just as much as a space one.
Don't care + didn't ask + L + ratio + CPU issue + no kids + your owner is a perv + seethe + cope + defragment
What's robot rehabilitation supposed to be like? Would it be as simple as just messing with an android's programing or would they actually require professional therapy? Or on a fricked up note, maybe "rehab" is just doing a factory reset on someone. If it takes more effort to fix an android's issues than just pulling a few wires, I could see greedy companies just junking the bot and shipping a replacement. I hope he elaborates on this idea because I think it's neat.
Interesting point, as much of their post-build programming is done manually by teaching them in a classroom you could presume that they'd need the same kind of attention to 'fix' something that'd gone wrong in their heads.
A factory reset is probably far easier, if obviously less ethical.
There hasn't been much in the comic showing they can be treated like a normal computer and 'reset'. So if there is rehabilitation it's probably similar to the way a human would be treated. Or it's like the outmode house, down on their luck robots have to group together for support because no one else cares. Kinda sad
>There hasn't been much in the comic showing they can be treated like a normal computer and 'reset'.
Bennet wanting to dismantle here suggests they can't, but they also have backups in their chairs. We just don't know what the extent of the backups are - the entire personality, or just recipes or characteristics of their families that can be easily transported into a new nan?
Likely the latter, some sort of secondary data dump rather than an a 1:1 HDD cloning, otherwise several other elements of the established setting immediately fall apart.
I think if you were to dump a chair-backup save into a brand new nan, she would get the basic memories of the backup without the intrinsic understanding, basically the same as how they get a bunch of data when initially assembled but still require extensive experience to categorize and understand it all correctly. A new nan getting an old nan's data dump would be just as 'green' as a nan that just came off the assembly line knowing that she's a nanny but still needing to be taught "don't smother baby".
Quickly, kill every sparrow
>We just don't know what the extent of the backups are
I think it's just the memories, and not even "real" memories that come with associated sensations and thoughts, just video and audio recordings probably.
If we presume their robot goop forms something akin to neural connections, then a raw dump of data would be like reading a book you didn't quite understand. The information might be there, but the connections necessary to actually comprehend it aren't since each nandroid head is a unique 'brain', connections formed from her individual experiences. A nandroid getting the memories of another might know that the old nan saw a pretty sunset one time, but not really grasp what that sunset made the old one feel, what the old nan thought about it, all the associations in her mind. To the new nan, it's a simple memory, a fact that 'this thing happened'.
I don't quite buy into the whole "robot goop is where the brain is" theory, but I agree in general. It's one thing to be able to know and copy what a nandroid sees or hears, it's another to be able to know and copy what she thinks or feels about it. And it seems the technology in the comic doesn't allow for the latter, or else like others have said there wouldn't be a need for the nandroid education process in the first place.
Could depend. Any robot that isn't suffering a debilitating malfunction and is roughly human shaped can work any menial job without much retooling, in theory.
I could see basically any kind of dexterous robot go work in picking fruits in orchards for exemple.
For those that can't be easily repurposed, they could fall into the "may be considered dangerous"
We've talked this to death but robots aren't really programmed in that kinda way. They've got brains that learn and don't function on code so much as function similar to a organic brain. They have some code components that interact with software updates and so on. I imagine broken or defective parts, brain or body, is what is dealt with in roborehab. Just from their personalities it's hard to imagine a robot needing or benefitting from something like therapy—also I imagine it wouldn't really work unless you have someone who specialises in robot psychology. That sounds fun actually
>robot psychology
>"Go on Franny, tell the group, how did them not putting their toys away properly make you feel? This is safe space."
Good point, if it was possible to 'factory reset' they probably would have at least entertained the idea but instead they went for shipping her off for dismantling. I am also really interested in the chairs and what they can do.
What falls apart?
>What falls apart?
The entire school/training part in particular: if an entire AI mind can be flawlessly copied and transferred to a new shell, you'd only have to train one droid of a given type/purpose/etc in all the basics, then copy her at that point as a sort of mastermold for spitting out pre-trained machines immediately ready for shipping.
you'd need several to get distinct personalities, at least.
and while it would seriously put a damper on how much things make sense, even if they're a bunch of copypaste, the schools could still be a form of troubleshooting, or we just saw the memories of the "originals", that got copied then pasted over and over again.
For all we know, all classes are identical, and the only true first moment of "individuality" would be when they get their assignments.
>or we just saw the memories of the "originals", that got copied then pasted over and over again
Then you run into existential crisis potential when they see another of their archetype running around and have a fit when they realize they aren't Amy, they're Amy #137-B.
Knowing Amy she'd be thrilled.
>The classes show them being largely identical, but Emmy asked the question about outmodes independently of her peers, which suggests that by the time they enter training the beginnings of a personality already begin developing. After all, Molly didn't start training with bedroom eyes.
Oh I didn't mean that they all were identical, but that the Emmy/Amy/Polly/ect we saw attending the classes were just the original batch that got used as templates for the following batches of nandroids, instead of training all batches from scratch.
>If Sterling could just copypaste couple nandroids and ship them after they're built they would.
which is what I was getting at, so you didn't read what I said or misunderstood pretty bad.
>misunderstood pretty bad
I know. But I already wrote it out and thought "frick this guy."
>just the original batch that got used as templates for the following batches of nandroids, instead of training all batches from scratch.
If that were the case then setting up that whole elaborate school facility for just one use seems overkill. You could just train one nan, copy her brain, factory reset her, and train her again differently, instead of training the customer's received product directly.
>For all we know, all classes are identical, and the only true first moment of "individuality" would be when they get their assignments.
The classes show them being largely identical, but Emmy asked the question about outmodes independently of her peers, which suggests that by the time they enter training the beginnings of a personality already begin developing. After all, Molly didn't start training with bedroom eyes.
Not a great argument. You'd have to be moronic as a company to dedicate that many resources to "getting robots to have more personality". The reason did train them is that just hard coding them resulted in lost of issues with robot logic. Code can't adapt very well so they have to teach them how to act appropriately. If Sterling could just copypaste couple nandroids and ship them after they're built they would.
Ah, you're right, that makes sense.
I really like this idea, like the feelings and emotions or sensory perceptions are either too much data or too advanced to be copied correctly
Here is the requested recreation from last week. I am so happy with how it turned out, I think it looks exactly like the panel lol
>I am so happy with how it turned out
OR here, me too. Thanks!
Here is a bonus one for you, I hadn't fully realized just how expressive and interesting the faces could be made to look
You've just activated your Sterling Nandroid for the first time. As she starts up and begins speaking, her cute cheeks begin to glow softly and you are ensnared. You can either:
A: Provide her your full attention and introduce yourself when she completes her speech, giving her proper respect and boundaries.
B: *squish squish*
REMEMBER, first impressions are important!
How about option C, hug.
Glorious, now can you do some Emmy pretending to be a doll?
I don't know what you mean, give me more direction
Hugging is acceptable, but will fall under squish squish haha
I mean, Emmy sitting on a chair pretending to be a lifeless doll and then smiling and winking at the viewer with a quick little spark or a heart.
Emmy pretending to be lifeless but is secretly giving the ok hand sign lol
OK, I get it now. I'll put it on my list for next week
Here is a 4th of July video. AMY SAYS: Have a fun and SAFE holiday!
fricking kek, she's GOT a fire extinguisher but still chooses to walk away. Typical Amy.
4mb ram, please be patient.
I started thinking about their dress material, think it's got some kind of fire moronant built in? It could be all kinds of chemically treated and not be comfortable for a human to wear, but perfect for a Nandroid. So in my head the fire goes out a second after the video ends and there's no panic lol
It's so hard to tell if something is gonna be able to be seen clearly or if compression and file size will muddy it up
You know what would be ironic?
If Emmy didn't go into attack mode and didn't used her extinguisher.
fantastic work as usual! those facial expressions are so cute haha
>someone who specialises in robot psychology. That sounds fun actually
That's a big part of Asimov's work, anon. You might want to get on it.
Jane is cute, where's the Jane fanart
thought you quit?
He did. That's an old pic.
Do we know they lost though? It seems we're pretty firmly in alternate history territory here.
>America used robots to fight in Afghanistan and they STILL lost
Well...
kek, this made me chuckle a little bit.
Probably the darkest humor we've seen in this strip, considering that this was pretty much the rationale behind human slavery for centuries.
>I want you to rot in a cell
Why? What did I do? I didn't hurt anyone.
What would you guys do if the only way to power nandroids was through ritualistic sacrifice of the unborn?
Create an underground imprisoned harem (Fritzl-style) and stagger their impregnations like planting tomatoes for continual harvest.
And then you kill them because they angered god for losing the baby right?
No, then you'd run out of broodmares
But why would you let a femoid who failed to produce an offspring live
THE MILK
THEY PRODUCE SO MUCH MILK
Or you coild just keep doing as you do anon, your constant fapping sacrifice them every day
Big lore just dropped
???
You raped a six year old child in Trøndelhag nine years ago. You were released on probation just this February, where you were allowed un-policed access to a computer and found these threads, thinking more children would be here to link up with.
Cute and wholesome and not just coombait, more like this please Lem
no.
i do what i want.
>no.
>i do what i want.
Cute commiebot, Lem
Sadly this baby is an abomination against nature, but at least Franny didn't abort.
very nice, very cute, very wholesome franny. thanks, anon.
I miss the "you stop that" poster
I don't.
Neat, new character?
Found the abortionist
Independence Day is right around the corner! Any interesting plans this weekend or on the day itself?
I was going over the comic again and found something interesting. Here we have the panel showing Madeline's birthday as being Saturday, September 18th. A quick search reveals the following post 1950 years as having that date: 1954 1965 1971 1976 1982 1993 1999 2004.
In the panel when Emmy is being assigned to her family we see that Madeline was born in '19XX' so I've excluded any years post 2007 as that would make her birthday be in '20XX'. Next I went ahead and threw out any years prior to 1950 as all of the technology we see, while fanciful, is aesthetically from that era or later.
This week's comic mentioning Vietnam can also mean that any year before the early 1970s can get thrown out. The final clue was from the comic used for last week's thread, where Emmy and Madeline talked about two movies, one being Home Alone (1990) and the other being Baby's Day Out (1994). If we take those into consideration then that means that Emmy the Robot either takes places in 1999 or 2004, as any year prior to those that had a Saturday September 18th would not have had BOTH movies. I think it would be safer to assume the year closer to the release of those movies, therefore I believe that Emmy the Robot is currently taking place on September 29th or 30th, 1999 (as Emmy was in the care of Sterling for 11 days after the September 18th incident). I look forward to reading any refutations or confirmations you may have.
Movie gags aside a lot of the not-explicitly sci-fi tech sitting around looks 80s level at best, so I'm willing to wager this an an Archer situation in which the year is meaningless because the setting is an intentionally incongruent mess of elements spanning almost 50 years.
Yes, that's absolutely the case, I just find it funny that there is an actual year that 'fits' into place
>A quick search reveals the following post 1950 years as having that date: 1954 1965 1971 1976 1982 1993 1999 2004.
I did that a while ago too, and used to pin the comic on 1982. However, 1993 is the best fit given this comment from Dom.
The EtRverse is significantly different from the real world, so those movies or their real-life release dates don't really mean anything.
Good find!! If we fudge the release years of the movies in the comic, which I think is acceptable, then 1993 is probably the more 'canon' answer.
It's gonna be really interesting to see if any of the expanded lore comics affect the main story at all, or if they are just being used as filler.
Beautiful. No interesting plans per se, just fireworks with family and friends. I wonder if Nandroids dress up for every holiday? They at least do for Halloween, I wonder if you could convince them to wear cute outfits for every holiday.
Honestly with the war shit, Dennis being a vietvet is still up in the air. I think we'll need one more comic with him to get a better taste of her personali
Yeah the vietnam thing is certainly the biggest takeaway in terms of what we can glean and speculate. This could also be an AH frozen culture deal or repeated culture. Like it could be 2030 but certain events result in a 1960s-esque culture. Although late 90s and early 00s, with how Corbyn was listening to a audio book with headphones on.
Absolutely mind numbing how a thread can have such a rich and massive lore dump to pick apart as it's op and it devolves into this immediately
Any day I see a new Denise pic is a good day. Nice work
Sometimes I want to write shortstories based on the Emmy world, like a story about a robot fighting in Vietnam but at that point it's so far removed from nandroids that it's really just a robot story with nothing do with the comic. I think I'll just do it for my own life pleasure. You can't really insert nandroids into the vietnam conflict without some weird jank—like you could make them impromptu nurses that Sterling sent over to help with the war effort but really nandroids are half their setting so with out the nan they're just droids and begins to feel like you've just cheaply forced them in
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA oh man wait til you find out
find out what? Yeah I know some people make really "out there" OCs and stories
What do you mean? You don't know what I'm brewing in my brain. No such thing as a "done" story 🙂
>It's gonna be really interesting to see if any of the expanded lore comics affect the main story at all, or if they are just being used as filler.
Most of it, aside from back story for people like sterling ect. will likely just be flavour text to explain certain stuff in the world. There may be a short spin off arc set in a different period of the world who knows.
This exact premise has been done anon sorry to burst your bubble and erode any interest you had in the fan stories. Admittedly it was really bad and is to this day unfinished, but there's plenty of other just as bad stories with endings
Why couldn't you make a story about the soldier robot you posted in your pic, or maybe a "what if" about Denis' time in the war (since we kind of assume he's a military model of sort)? It's still nandroid related, since it's in their universe.
It's like if someone wanted to make a jane and joe story but stopped themselves from doing it because it's not about nandroids.
They should be happy with self service instead of a cashier that'll manhandle your bread.
>there's no way for us to test our hypotheses.
I base my position on human history. People have always found new scarcities as civilization has progressed; there's no reason to assume it'll be different in the future.
Wrong. you'd all just be robot managers.
Automation destroys old jobs and creates new ones. Study the luddites and their reaction to industrialization. Would we be better off without that? Have good job propspects? Unless you're a Kazinzcky-ite, no, no we wouldn't.
>Would we be better off without that?
Perhaps
>Wrong. you'd all just be robot managers.
>Automation destroys old jobs and creates new ones
I'm more interested of gynoid robot maids being perfect ideal wives to human men. I like this idea more.
>Automation destroys old jobs and creates new ones
When you reach a point where robots are as smart and sapient as humans, it becomes different because now robots can do ANY job, including those new jobs that automation has just created.
Requesting a nan of your choice celebrating the 4th of July
AND IT WILL COME
LIKE A FLOOD OF PAIN
>It's beyond demonstrable that simply giving people money to do nothing [...]
Maybe I'm just not educated enough on that. This is not nearly the reality of the community I live in.
>Human nature isn't something you can shape and mold like clay,
I don't buy it. Human behavior is shaped by the society they live in, by what they're taught and socialized to believe in. And there are those of us who reach beyond that and try to effect change. There's no programming.
Your way of thinking creates a mindset of stagnation, "we can only keep doing what we've always been doing because that's human nature".
>"Any nandroid who wants to exist needs to fill out the necessary paperwork!"
>And will keep doing that as long as they have the option.
One of the good side effects of it is that shutting those business down for so long forced people to explore other employment options, or even start their own online businesses. Wages have skyrocketed relative to where they were before because many people collectively realized "this is fricking shit, I can't live on it, and I can make more money doing other things". So it was a failure in both that wound up being a positive. That's for industries that *have* to occur here, like fast food or retail. Other industries that could replace their workforce elsewhere probably did, but I don't know anyone in those fields. I got lucky and only shifted from an office to W@H.
>I absolutely, categorically do not trust any individual or congregation of individuals to try and 'change society' according to some idea or plan, it is a one-way ticket to bad times.
You mean you don't want your country to make a great leap forward?
>somehow missed/forgot about poor Emmy a bit prior to the no-nose guy showing up
>running away
>now this
I am frightened and afraid...
Salutations, fellow nandroid enthusiasts! The hiatus resumed with a whopper of an update, eh? Well, you know the drill, request away!
Tabby zapping a nandroid of your choice with her taser
This is a shocking development, indeed.
Dangerously dense concentration of basedness within a span of less than 10 seconds
This is only going to make her worse
Now draw her sniping a bunch of G.I Joes.
Hahaha, I love it!
I'm behind the times, what's up with the tazer?
There is this fandroid named Tabby, and in the original drawing of her (
) she is depicted with a taser for some reason. That's it.
Haven't really written up much about her yet, but my idea was that she carried it to defend herself against malicious humans and outmodes while she's out and about. After being rescued from the dump, she finds herself in an electronics repair shop. She decided to stay with the owner afterwards, since she really didn't have anywhere to go.
PERFECT
Avery and Denise arm-wrestling
Tabby zapping Koko for being Koko.
Tabby zapping Mort on Koko's request
A very patriotic 4th of July Tilly
I consider this quite patriotic, yes?
Very patriotic, damn fine work you legend, thanks
SALUTE
can you pls do something with tatyana
In Tilly we trust.
More Charlie as a nandroid
yo is that one new? I don't remember ever seeing it
that is just the main gal from hazbin hotel as a nandroid. she has popped up before since her cheeks look like a nandroid's.
Misspoke I suppose, I asked if this picture was new.
And if you'd look closely you'd see I posted another Charlie nandroid picture while asking so I did know the character
seconding
Her face does actually looks like a nandroid.
That is the joke yes
Is this supposed to be her as a Nandroid, or is she dressed as Alice?
Re-requesting Sally in some 1970s pajamas please
Seconding request, but its the choker crew
Please draw Emmy hugging and caring for his human owner and attempt to cheer him up when he thinking about his past life living in an absuive household.
Are you making propaganda pieces?
what?
Franny took care of 3 other siblings before the twins.
wait what? That can't be right, the twins were 3 years old when she got there
What?
Then whats that comic of her talking with Emmy with how the other kids are grown up and have their own lives.
They are the older siblings of the twins, but Franny was purchased specifically for the twins.
oh, this confused me.
yeah, Franny have some extra wisdom there, since unlike most of the other nans she had to deal with teenagers and young adults leaving the house. Even Molly seems to be mostly (if not only) around for Corbin and the other Mendenhall kids are still around anyway.
She's such a great caretaker :')
requesting this with nate and noelle
Did I get it right?
how does that even happen
New upgrades to help lift Mr Crowley out of his wheelchair. She's not quite used to them yet and can't always gauge her strength properly.
Would you mind doing this one
please?
He's always drawn fat fleshy breasts newbie
never this badly, and not pregnan shit, those don't even look like nandroids
your shit would be leagues better than what you post here now
Who fricking cares.
Literally shut the frick up.
Hey Lem, think you can sketch a quick secretary Molly being scolded by HR Emmy?
What about this
?
What did he mean by this?
I don't see the problem anon. What's wrong about having a robowaifu who serve her human husband? I mean that's what robot maids do.
Would an android in charge of other nandroids really be called HR
Asking the big questions here
Humans
and
Robotoids
Department.
To be honest, my headcanon here was that Molly's looseness caused a very rich possible assosiate to lose his wife and his own nan.
All that after Emmy specifically told her to not come to the office that day.
That was quicker that I thought it would be, really good one.
Here is a funny thing that happened, for some reason certain frames would get weird artifacts like this when rendering. Re-rendering would make it go away, I just thought it looked funny so I saved one. Amy accidentally lit the big one
Makes me think of the Hammer of Dawn from Gears.
Black person you could at least post a nandroid meme this isn't the robot girl general
I just posted this because I want a nandroid as my robowaifu. Robowaifu will make femoids obsolete.
and it still have nothing to do with emmy the robot at all, so, again, if you post your stupid /misc/ memes at least post the ones that are on topic
>The fundamental problem with this kind of coding when it comes to robots specifically is, in real life, we are all people. Everyone is a human being regardless of any cosmetic disparity. Personhood is generally a pretty easy thing to define IRL. We’re all the same species without much internal variation when you get right down to it, but robots aren’t humans. Where real-world bigotry is unilaterally directed from one ground of humans to another, fictional robot racism is directed from a group of humans to a group of non-human outsiders. You know, that thing real-world bigots really like claiming the targets of their bigotry to be. In fiction the personhood of a robot is an actual debate, where no such debate really meaningfully exists within real-world instances of prejudice. And because it’s not clear how human the robot actually is, it’s not clear how human they should really be treated. And a lot of these stories the robots are explicitly very much not human. In the Animatrix, for example, the machines are very clearly quite different from humanity, and they’re not claiming anything otherwise. They just want the right to exist without getting destroyed. Basically, real-world humans are all human, but in fantasy worlds, human is a much more complicated thing to define. And trying to code a fictional non-human demographic to parallel a real world very human demographic can produce unfortunate resonances and it doesn’t matter how much you don’t want your audience to draw that connection because they’re gonna. Because if there’s one thing humans are good at, it’s pattern recognition.
I have this faint hope that when/if AI or robots or whatever actually come about there won't be any sort of moral issues and they will almost unanimously be accepted as non-human persons. People treat their pets better than they treat some other humans so I hope that kind of empathy would be at play here, like "Robots aren't human so I can't have a prejudice against them, but they are human like so I will treat them positively, like how I treat animals."
Would a fully realized AI except or reject you comparing them to a pet?
It's just a comparison so hopefully they wouldn't have an issue with it. I don't think people would treat them like animals and I don't expect them to be 'underneath' humans, what I meant was that in the same way that a person can LITERALLY love their dog more than another human, they could become friends with and genuinely care for what would amount to a bunch of 1s and 0s. And I'm hopeful most people just would accept it and there isn't any huge robot uprising or robots rights scenarios like what we see in most media.
This is what I was meaning, the same mechanisms in the mind that make us care for other people don't just stop working because the object we're thinking about isn't human. We give anything and everything characteristics in our mind whether deserved or not.
I have more empathy for the hammer in my garage than I do for most people, so guilty as charged.
The only problem is if they were created by a big corporation like Google, if they see that this sentient AI is not turning profits or that it has no practical use they'll just kill it.
>what stupid fricking commie bullshit this post is, google would neve-
https://killedbygoogle.com/
That's a very likely scenario, which I hope doesn't happen. I was thinking of something like that when I said 'almost unanimously' since there's always gonna be some problems.
AHAHAHAHA OH NOOOOO
>People treat their pets better than they treat some other humans
The majority of humans treat animals better than their own species. Good thing I'm not one of them. Lol. As the matter fact nandroids are far more superior than animals and way better companion than animals. Animals shit, scream and bite. Nandroids have sense of character, will show love, affection and loyalty to their human owner and will give you sex (unlike dogs, lol).
Penis inside Avery
Penis outside Avery
>this will never be finished
it's by anontheanon on twitter iirc, go ask him
nearly 3 years of being shelfed. the original artist could have been friggin slain for all we know.
Well....all that was something that the companies should have seen comming, I mean the economic backlash for the working class should have been one of the topics they should have thought about.
I understand companies are to make money but the riot problems are something that may harm your public image
When in the history of human civilization did we ever consider the unintended consequences of technology?
pls draw the nans admiring a horseless carriage
Here's a Polly video. Polly doesn't get much panel time but she is awfully cute and I'd like to learn more about her personality. Is it morally reprehensible to lie to your Nandroid for affection?? I'd break my own legs if it meant a Nandroid would dote on me.
That's really sweet. I think that song did end up being a good choice for her.