The 78-year-old said he was being told to “dumb down” his productions, and had been warned against making television that “requires an audience to focus”.
“We’re going back to where I was,” said Chase. “They’re going to have commercials … and I’ve already been told to dumb it down.”
He told the Times about a show he has been trying to make with the young screenwriter Hannah Fidell, about a high-end sex worker forced into witness protection. They are on their third draft and fifth meeting and have been told “the unfortunate truth” that it is too complex. “Who is this all really for?” he said. “I guess the stockholders?”
“We seem to be confused and audiences can’t keep their minds on things, so we can’t make anything that makes too much sense, takes our attention and requires an audience to focus. And as for streaming executives? It is getting worse. We’re going back to where we were.”
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Can we stop pretending Sopranos was deep?
then imagine how shitty new tv shows must be, if they are supposed to be dumbed down even more
"too complex" was just a polite way of saying his idea is shit
The Sopanos is the most quotable non-religiouis piece of media ever created. And no I didn't forget about Shakespeare.
the only famous sopranos quotes are gabagool and ey i'm walkin here
give me a deep philosophical Sopranos quote
>Log off. That cookies shit makes me nervous
Words to live by.
Much like a child a film has many parents. That is to say many individuals who act like parents, or that by aversion, the film is their baby.
Whateva happened there.
It's a funny scene because it seems funny, but no one sees how sneaky Carmine is here. It's like everyone has forgotten how he tried to manipulate his father's emotions towards Tony. Little Carmine said that on purpose. He knew how Phil would react. He knew that after that, the deal was off. The power grab was going according to his plan.
>Speak
>You sound like a race horse pissing in there.
>they say, there are no two people on Earth exactly the same. No two faces, no two sets of fingerprints. But do they know that for sure? Cause they would have to get everybody together in one huge space and obviously that's impossible, even with computers. Not only that, they would have to get all the people who ever lived, not just the ones now. So they got no proof. They got nothin
>That's a racket for the israelites!
Applies to literally everything
>Jamal Ginsberg, the hassidic homeboy
>ACK!
satanic black magic, sick shit!
>gabagool, over here!
The Simpsons is infinitely more quotable.
sneed
I bet he's the one who wrote "Homer" all over the bathroom
Too bad literally 2/3rds of that is complete dogshit
>le quotable
holy fricking reddit
incorrect
>“The Sopanos is the most quotable non-religiouis piece of media ever created. And no I didn't forget about Shakespeare.””
I live in NY and the mob acts nothing like Tony. They're either bored rich kids or nigs robbing the Brinks truck, or old boomers with a podcast
what are some good boomer mob podcasts, anon?
The show was made 25 years ago. Life was just a tad bit different back then.
Metakino
did dent
We are such stuff as dreams are made of on, and our little life is rounded with a sleep
*blank screen*
>The fundamental question is, will I be as effective as a boss like my dad was? And I will be, even more so? But until I am, it's going to be hard to verify that I think I'll be more effective.
Sopranos wasn't deep, but it had the most realistic dialogue in any TV show I've seen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBQY3x6weYs
>the U.S. hardly goes to war anymkore
>this was the last episode before 9/11
Quasimodo predicted all this.
Realism is shit.
Who the frick wants things to be "real" when real people act like twitter c**ts.
go watch Marvel shows then
no how about i go watch some properly dramatized movie or show
Way deeper than anything of the trash made today. Nice try israelite. We can tell you're hired by some israeli producers to shit on the last great television show of all time.
>last great television show of all time.
go to bed david
Go to bed paramount israelite
Correct. Shield chads rise up!
>spook street
The shit you could get away with on cable
>Can we stop pretending Sopranos was deep?
It literally a show about a bunch fat, low T crypto Black folk pretending to be men while actually being b***hed the frick out by every woman ever.
It's embarrassing as frick that anyone thinks it was good, not to speak of it being so golden standard.
Learn grammar first before you try to critique shit you subhuman Black person.
Sopranos didn't necessarily require you to focus either tho, that's what made subsequent rewatches so much fun is that there are tons of stuff you missed out on the first time through, that weren't necessarily important but gave so much more context.
can we stop pretending sopranos was good
t. israeli shills that want to dumb down the goyim and force them to watch goyslop
>
Name 20 complex and ambitious TV series
Sounds like it's a problem with moronic producers.
Maybe he's just turning up with shit like Many Saints of Newark and nobody wants it.
This. Nothing to see here but another old has-been crying about how stupid audiences are nowadays for not realizing his genius.
>boomer crying that companies won't throw money at him
He could probably fund the fricking thing himself. If he is so confident then why doesn't he take the risk?
he probably agrees with the producers. >Audiences ARE too dumb for my genius.
Sopranos sucked ass though.
Here come the contrarians, you just know this thread would be filled with idiots calling him a "moron" if he had said the complete opposite, you people are a joke.
Why are you being such a contrarian instead of joining us in calling him a "moron"?
>dude just join the hive mind!
literal NPC
>NO I WON'T STOP BEING A CONTRARIAN ALSO FRICK ALL YOU CONTRARIANS
Because of his age, most of his shows are going to only be relevant to people over the age of 60 at best, so they need a less complex story, one they can still follow.
He might also be going a bit senile being 78 as well and present people with what he thinks is a coherent and deep drama full of twists and clever plot-lines that all tie together in a neat bow, but actually be delivering an incoherent mess full of dead ends and characters and plots that get forgotten halfway through and never mentioned again. "make it a bit less complex and dumb it down, you know for the audiences" might be them trying to tell him that he has fricked it up, but politely.
Zoomers love Sopranos tho. True, 95% never get past the twitter memes and yt clips but the 5% probably go on to watch the show.
>turns up with Newark-tier shit
>producers say "Uh, David, this is shit, can you do another pass on the script?"
>REEEEEE COMPLEX TV IS DEAD!!!
Isn't this always the case?
>guy makes a successful show/movie
>suits want in
>refuse to "take risks"
>guy gets told to do a checklist based off market research
Better Call Saul finished over a year ago, that was a pretty good show.
Before that there was Breaking Bad and before that Sopranos
sopranos is the best tv series to understand human psychology.
The people portrayed there abound in real life.
>The 78-year-old said he was being told to “dumb down” his productions
Chase and "The Sopranos" is actually responsible for modern tv shows revolving around family drama bullshit.
It worked for him because he balanced the family drama that nobody really cared about, with the mob stuff we were actually watching the show for but nowadays, it's ALL family drama bullshit and actual plot takes a distant backseat.
You sure?
Yes I am sure, part of the appeal of "The Sopranos" was the family drama storylines and now Hollywood sees this as the only way to write tv series.
Name a modern tv show that _doesn't_ remove around family drama bullshit?
Yep there wasn't a single tv series about family before the sopranos. Gotta be the stupidest thing I've read in a long time.
welcome to
my Black friend
its the exact opposite lol. Today shows focus all on plot, where shows like The Sopranos or Mad Men were focusing on characters.
Horrible take. israelites in Hollywood are so out of touch they don't even know what people want. At least video games are taking over because they have to put leftist rhetoric in every single show/movie.
Chase is Italian.
He wishes
Don't worry. israelites will try and subvert that too. They have to corrupt everything around.
>video games are taking over
>70 $
>always online
>unmodable
>dlc
Humans on average will barely be able to talk by 2150
Already happening, have you seen how Zoomers speak?
Yes, it will only degenerate from here with each subsequent generation.
>literal boomer doing "back in my day" garbage
I denounce the talmud btw
Thank God, I'm tired of all new shows being 10 hour boring movies haphazardly chopped into 50 minutes "episodes". Bring back "X of the week" type shows.
Is it too much to ask for a television show to be 30 minutes nowadays? How are people finding the time for these 3 hour melodramatic stories?
I miss how shows like Star Trek would have small scale, character focused episodes. They didn’t advance the storyline but could be a joy to watch. Netflix killed those for shorter seasons that could be binged and totally forgotten.
They did it with all forms of entertainment, music being the worse. They’ve been dumbing people down for decades and television didn’t hit its golden age until early 00s and it’s already on its way to being sabotaged
it's hard to process how much worse video games, movies and television have become since the 90s and 00s, this wasn't the future I imagined for entertainment
He is 100% right though. It's happening to all forms of media. Whenever a movie, a video game - hell, even a website or app - is being designed, everything has to pass through the filter of
>is this understandable for an 80iq audience of easily distracted 3rd worlders?
Explain then how something like Better Call Saul or Barry then shows up. More like the old grumble: it used to be better when I was young. And don't forget Twin Peaks Returns (even if it's not the newest example, I'm sure Lynch would have been given any money for any of his new projects without looking)
have a nice day troony, not even zoomers think the current times are better than the 90s or 00s
The only aspect of life that has improved since the 90s is that internet speed is faster. Everything else has declined, this isn't old man grumbling but a fact of life.
Well, yes and no. I just don't think a TV show of the level The Sopranos can appear or David Chase can do a second The Sopranos. Whedon did Buffy but never repeated it. But we have Better Call Saul, for example. And it's brilliant. Every creation has its time and place. You can't do Twin Peaks. But you can make The Return (as an example). Chase can make a new show, but even if given full control and opportunity, it won't be The Sopranos. I respect him, but I think he just got a gentle hint that he was going to do some shit. After all, he's responsible for Many Saints of Newark.
Twin Peaks Returns and BCS were great because Lynch and Gilligan are creative savants who were given almost total control. They are exceptions to the rule. Almost everything else is being pushed through the mesh of ESG corporate boardrooms and that's why it sucks.
Yes, but it seems to me - I could be wrong - that there's a lot more room for authorial vision now than there used to be. Like we have tons of streaming services that are willing to produce interesting, original stuff. Not like it used to be when there was a dictatorship of cable TV channels. I just think the authors have nothing to say. Take Barry, for example. Barry may not be the greatest tv show ever, but at moments he kicks ass, he goes above and beyond. You couldn't do that 30 years ago on cable TV. Because, uh. the producers wouldn't understand it. It's like Twin Peaks. It's an exception. Barry was given that chance. I think other shows would have been given a chance too. The Sopranos, like so many other TV shows, started out pretty standard, entertaining. But the more popular it became, the more control the writer was given.
pic related is complex and ambitious, checkmate you greasy wop
>reality shows are LE BAD??????
boring, NEXT!
that's your interpretation? how's it feel being moronic anon, genuinely curious?
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David Chase might have turned into a moron but he's 100% right. All the israeli israelite shills and useful idiots shitting up the thread are seething because they know he's right
>Makes Many Saints of Newark
He's generally right I'd venture, but frick him for that backdoor pilot on the Newark Race Riots disguised as a Sopranos prequel.
Era of complex and ambitious TV, whatever happened there
We already knew the golden era was over when LOST ended. Zoomers just say “The Sopranos” as an analogue to LOST because they can’t understand LOST but want to still be able to share in the “golden age” sentiment.
lost was fricking gay, shut up.
Cinemaphile is a HOAH
Barry felt like a very cheaply produced show for homos.
Chase is responsible for that terrible prequel movie. He doesn't have a right to act superior.
Mr Inbetween is the only recently produced show that sort of feels like the Sopranos.
What's it about? What am I in for?
He’s being polite. If you read between the lines, they’re not just asking him to dumb it down, but also wanting him to make sure he inputs the right black & white moralizing that all productions are required to do now. the clue is in him naming the screenwriter he’s “been trying to” work with. you’re supposed to google them, see it’s a milennial feminist writer, and put 2 and 2 together.
So this is his excuse for making Saints of Newark? Really? The executives made you put a race-bait plot into your shit movie? And you listened to them instead of just scraping the project? You needed the money that bad?
> TV show about gangsters
> Ambitious
That's like saying a TV show about a cop who is a bit of a macerick and who doesn't play by the rules is ambitious.