Just rewatched Eureka 7 AO and it was IMO garbage. Are any of the other Eureka 7 spinoffs/sequels any good?
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Just rewatched Eureka 7 AO and it was IMO garbage. Are any of the other Eureka 7 spinoffs/sequels any good?
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As far as I can tell, no. They all seem hellbent on being super edgy and shitting on the original series (which was super edgy at times, don't get me wrong, but it always felt like there was a strong undercurrent of hope running through it.) There's the PS2 games, I guess. The new movie couldn't even leave them alone, though, they had to defile their corpses too.
thats a shame. i guess rewatching the og series it is. Have some Ray in the meantime.
>They all seem hellbent on being super edgy
I've still got to watch the third movie but I'll be real with you, edgy is the last thing I would call Anemone by the time it's over. It is arguably too upbeat and zany in its final act relative to the rest of the movie and its end of the world plot which has some mild edge with characters like Dewey but also a lot of goofing around de
Anemone is a weird movie that I would describe as existing for nobody but the people making it, but they certainly seemed to be having a good time doing it if nothing else. I kind of enjoyed it, honestly, I don't really care about weird spinoffs in alternate realities besmirching the purity of the original series.
>around de
around despite that.
I still don't know how or why these exist and why they keep being attached to E7 though, I doubt they're making back half their budget and E7 fans start frothing with rage whenever you bring them up. It's this perfect storm of why-does-this-exist.
It feels really weird that this became a franchise at all. Like I kind of get why you might want to strike when the iron was hot and make a movie when the show was at it's peak but who was really asking for sequels.
The only E7 sequel idea that would've been worthwhile is something like IGPX that follows a new character participating in a LFO racing circuit years after the war.
This is one of the rare times when most of the staff and seiyuu who worked on the anime actually love the series. All the latest movies are however, from the director being buttblasted over the changes made towards the end of the original TV series.
I really wanna know what the Japanese fans think because I’ve never heard their opinions of all the sequel entries after all these years.
Haven't seen Hi Evo 3 but in Hi Evo 2 Ray and Charles came back to life. Did he really go full Bane for the final movie and shit on everything even harder than he did for the last 15 years?
No. It's a series where you watch the original and leave.
The sequels dont exist. Theres going to be a shitposter coming in soon to say theyre objectively betyer but the general consensus has been ignore everything after the og.
never gets old
I took these screen shots, 2011 when Cinemaphile used to watch toonami on justivtv/livestream, streamer was called "livetoons".
It became routine to add a rising number to the end of the url (livetoons1, 2, 3 ect.) because he kept getting banned.
I remember that. One time i accidentally deleted my history and had to go through the stream urls again and whether it was on ustream or justin.
Those were comfy nights, eureka seven, samurai seven, and deadman wonderland.
my melanin brothers
I loved the Beams so much. They were the only positive influence in Renton's life, and genuinely well-written as a loving and caring couple. If I ever get married, I want to treat my wife like Charles treated Ray.
please dont make your kid smell you
What about his grandpa
Axel was sort of a neutral party. He loved Renton, and tried to prevent him from joining the conflict that took his son and granddaughter, but he didn't really care if Renton was happy for most of his life. He came around in the end, but for the most part he was a man who was coping with the loss of most of his family instead of trying to be a good parent. He wasn't a bad man, and he was great once Renton moved out, but during Renton's time with him, he didn't do a whole lot of good for him. A surprisingly realistic father-type character.
>but he didn't really care if Renton was happy for most of his life.
Renton decided to learn from his grandfather at the shop at the same time he left. He got a love of machines from his grandfather and being a mechanic is one of the first things he brags to Eureka about. Renton wanted excitement and Axel wanted him to be safe, but really accepted his decision. Charles and Ray might have inspired Renton for what it meant to be in a relationship, his sister was a bit of a mother figure he latched onto but his Grandfather was his main parent.
>but during Renton's time with him, he didn't do a whole lot of good for him
Renton was a good mechanic and learned how to drive LFO in his shop. Only real failure was a lack of discipline with Renton dropping out, also allowed Renton to pursue his hobbies. Even the dropping out was more related to Renton not fitting in.
Play the PS2 games, you can emulate them on PCSX2.
I don't want to spoil it but it ties into the show in a really neat way while being its own story.
It's characters also had a cameo in the show.
What Hi-Evolution did to them felt extremely mean-spirited
Oh yeah, it was really fricked up, it's so weird because they didn't have any significant presence in the anime before.
Part of me is paranoid enough to believe Kyouda saw people praising the games and decided to shit on them.
I mean, considering Kyoda seems to be actively and intentionally shitting everything people liked about the original, I can't even put that past him.
i dont plan on watching hi-evolution, can you expand on what it did to them? (morbid curiosity)
I genuinely liked AO more than the forced coming of age melodrama original
and there it is
How do you force someone to come of age?
Coming of age is the flavor theme of the forced melodrama that is most of the plot, dummy
Nothing is forced in the show.
Watch mars daybreak
I get that E7 isn't everyone's cup of tea, but I've yet to see a single compelling argument for why AO and other sequel stuff is supposed to be better. They're leeching off original work in the first place, cannibalizing it with endless retcons.
>I've yet to see a single compelling argument for why AO and other sequel stuff is supposed to be better
Almost nobody argues this. It is nearly universally accepted that the original series was the peak of the franchise and that everything else is not as good (although some other things might be fine; like I have heard the manga, videos games, and - if you accept it as a AU story - the Pocketful of Rainbows movie are okay...but AO and most of Hi-Evolution activately are blemishes on the legacy of the original series)
>if you accept it as a AU story - the Pocketful of Rainbows movie are okay
Jesus Christ no
>but I've yet to see a single compelling argument for why AO and other sequel stuff is supposed to be better.
I've never seen a compelling argument as to why the original TV series is any better.
Surfing robots
a guy did a good youtube video describing what a proper sequel should be for eureka 7. but the movies and shit werent that good. hi evo 1 was a badly done retelling of the story and evo2 is again with this other dimension crap.
>Youtube
Frick off.
>i need someone who tell me what would be a good sequel
Do idiots like you have a single thought of your own?
Stop doom posting
>It's out.
>Eureka: Renton, my beloved is dead and I have no family woe is me my life has no meaning time to kill everyone
Uhhh what about the three orphans?
>Eureka: NO. FAMILY. WOE IS ME.
the worst part of the movies
Thats been a problem since Ao
>Uhhh what about the three orphans?
Nobody liked those characters
I'm assuming this is the dedicated E7 thread for now.
Nu-Eureka is walking SEX
Also RIP Holland's original VA, must've been hard for the team, new guy sounds okay but he's no Fujiwara
Nu-Eureka's design is awful.
muh sex-appeal doesn't do any favor if she barely resembles the previous design.
What I hate about this design the most is how it removes the energy and gesture of Yoshida's style.
It just looks so stiff and heavy.
is there a rip for the new movie? I saw the RAW on Nyaa got taken down.
I have loved this song for years
E7 had some pretty good OST if I remember
Yes
Every so often I get tempted to watch AO or the movies because i love the whole look of the franchise and want to get something new like the original, but I just can't bring myself to do it because I know it's not.
AO is a disappointment if you've seen the original first. I saw it prior to E7 so my initial opinion of it was that it was a fine show, but even on its own it still does some dumb things towards the end. It sucks because there are elements of AO that are really good and captivated me.
The emotional core that was present in E7 is still here in AO and that's apart of what makes the show so disappointing.
Ao's episode reuniting with his mother was great, the beginning arc with him on the island dealing with their xenophobia but still wanting to protect it because it's the only place he's ever called home and because of Naru was fantastic.
And the music, god the music it's fricking incredible. And it's used masterfully throughout the show, so many scenes are enhanced by it.
And the characters are all likable and have a decent amount of characterization.
But what's sad is how it ends up developing. Around halfway or two thirds into the story it just abandons a lot of the ideas it was developing to reboot the narrative and get into the finale, and it does this twice.
Honestly I Kyouda wanted to revisit E7 again he should've just done an AO remake as a movie trilogy instead of this garbo.
just ordered the official archives along with a couple other artbooks
I have that book, it's pretty good.
Has all the settei and official illustrations.
I really need to snag one of Yoshida's artbooks soon.
I still deeply regret not buying one I saw on ebay for $70, that was such a steal, should've jumped on it.
WHAT happened to Renton in Hi-Evolution!?
They literally don't give him screen time in 2 of the movies, he just comes back in for a cameo at the very end of movie 3 and gets maybe 5 lines.
That was on top of movie 1 just being recut scenes from the tv show.
You basically do not get a character arc for Renton in this trilogy at all.
What's the fricking point of these movies then?
I ask myself that for every new e7 spinoff media.
May work as a decent standalone. Like Ao did for those who watchedit first
Can't we just get a happy epilogue with Renton, Eureka and the kids happy together in their home with grandpa?
what kids?
dvd cover gives a preview of their kids, although they never did anything with it in the sequels/spinoffs
It was never stated that they were their kids. I migth have just been cool concept art
yes, it was never explicitly stated that these were their kids, but i wouldn't call the actual dvd cover for volume 12 "concept art"
10 years later and I still haven't forgiven AO for what it did to Naru.
She was such a cute design and a good partner for Ao in the beginning of the show, then they just went absolutely moronic with her character and wasted her.
I know it's common for the childhood best friend to not win in anime, but they made Naru suffer even more and then completely just changed her.
big forehead make for good target practice
Big forehead for maximum headpat effectiveness
that looks like knockoff Anemone
The rest of E7 stuff exists purely to dunk on the first show and everyone who liked its goofy ass, it's some of the most passive-aggressive shit I've seen.
Just reading this thread and trudging through years of fans crying that Kyoda didn't just do the same shit again I would become disillusioned too.
>Kyoda didn't just do the same shit again
He made a soft reset coming of age with Ao and retread the same story twice making it edgier each time. He has been doing the same thing making it edgier each time and the reaction is moving on from disappointment to confusion.
This thread gave me the motivation to rewatch the series this weekend. 2 days in and I'm already halfway through the entire series. It's 3 am and I have work in 5 hours. Ironic, the first time I watched the series was during college and instead of studying for a test I just spend all night watching all the episodes on YouTube all the way to ep 48, and got to watch the final 2 episodes as they aired. I was worried that watching the series now wouldn't age well, but it still holds up and I'm getting serious nostalgia. Actually I haven't watched any anime for almost a decade, and it's fitting I start rewatching anime with eureka 7 as it was the anime that had ignited my interest in anime in the first place
That's really pathetic
>Wojack posting
Honestly I'm not surprised.
I've started to realize AO wasn’t a sequel to E7.
The details don’t line up for it at all.
Renton has the spec 3 and it looks completely different, more like the one from PFOR but in the tv version's colors.
But In both PFOR and E7 the Nirvash disappears at the end, and in PFOR they don't call corallians by that name.
And it can't be a case of simply redesigning the same one from E7(The way the Gundams in EW are supposed to be the exact same ones from the tv show) because they keep the original Nirvash Spec 2 design intact as well as designs like The End which briefly appears.
That alone feels like it should break any chance that it’s a sequel to E7 or PFOR.
One of AO’s main concepts is multiple universes, and it’s an idea that’s been continued into the hi-evo movies. So to me it makes more sense that the version of the E7 story that happens before AO is one we haven’t seen at all.
One that ends with Renton keeping the Nirvash somehow.
>The details don’t line up for it at all.
AO doesn't even manage to have events in its own story line up internally. But yes, there are enough contradictions that it doesn't make sense in continuity with anything else.
>E7gays don't actually pay attention to their own show
Shocker...
Are you gonna substantiate that, or just make a baseless claim?
no, frick you
guys guys, lets not fight, we are all degenerate weebs here.
also, there is a lack of actual mechs
anyone know where i can get subs for hi-evolution 1? I got the rip, but no subs; i just wanna see the first 15 min or so of new animation
to answer my own question, 9anime has both subbed and dubbed
Did Kenichi Yoshida draw this?
Talho looks like the way he normally draws her, but Eureka looks a little off, so idk.
Is it just me, or did the animation quality take a nose dive mid-season? Its not 100% of the time, but every now and then you get a extremely badly drawn face thrown in. Mainly around episdoes 27-30.
If I remember right, a lot of resources were throw into episode 26, so a couple of episodes around it got lower priority
It was that workload balancing that made them hand over the third OP sequence to one moderately famous animator with a distinctive style which involves not staying on-model, which got b***hed and moaned about so hard at the time that his animation work in later episodes of the show were under a pen name
just finished the series. NGL I love how at the end they just went frick it and went full cheese, carving a giant heart on the moon lol. almost felt like i was watching gurren lagann
And today I watched the first 30 min of hi-evo 1. I gotta say it was absolutely beautiful both visuals and soundtrack. Ill definitely add that soundtrack to my collection. Only part that kinda took me out of the movie was having a literal disco as a super weapon, and that it kinda muddles the og series Canon, but otherwise i really enjoyed it. As soon as the recycled clip show started I just stopped watching, so to me it was a pretty entertaining 30 min movie.
You made the right choice as far as how Evo 1 should be watched
Any redeeming parts in the other two movies? Even if you treat them as outside the E7 universe?
Anemone is genuinely a fun movie, and the ending has this bizarre self aware acknowledgement of every previous work in the franchise in some way being a failure.
Hi evo 3 is a mess, but it ends in a way that has everything loop around and eureka and renten finally together again. It bad, but you can at least say all the other shit isn't cannon, love did actually conquer all, and the original show is all you need.
I like the second and third for what they are. They are almost completely unrelated to the first one to the point the next movie preview at the end of the first movie literally never happens, I assume because like they saw the negative feedback and went back to the drawing board entirely
I have not read this thread at all yet but I'm betting that one AOgay is going to derail it like every E7 thread
Hasn't really happened aside from 2-3 shitposts
Eureka 7 is good for a gundam clone. Sunrise productions can be kind of soulless, but they're so professional
Easily one of the best looking mech anime of the 2000s
E7 wasn't a sunrise show
I wish Bones never split from Sunrise
But then again, some Bones anime wouldn't have been made if they were still under Sunrise
Anyone seen fansubs made for the e7 pachinko vids?
These are just from Hi-Evo 1
Unless there is a extended edition of hi-evo 1, hi evo 1 starts right after the last clip ends; I believe these are clips from pachiko machines
Oh you're right, for some reason I thought these from from Hi-Evo 1.
I'm surprised they'd put this much effort into pachinko, it actually pains me.
Don't worry the geriatric gambling addict who doesn't know what day it is will love these clips
>only important Goldilocks is the epin e-girl
Don't worry, the shitty e-girl gets shafted in that same episode, and the tomboy is the one that gets the most screentime after that.
Doesn't make Chloe any less shit, though.