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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    this Black person

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >le serious face

      All they do us vaguepost

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Theyre trying not to laugh at seeing how people scoop up the pure crap they put out

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >all classified clips they leak are of balloons
      mick was right

      >International governments are using hyper advanced alien space ships to smuggle drugs across borders

      is this true?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      useful idiots for the glowies

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I honestly am not sure if corbell is a liar or just incredibly stupid.

      I honestly think Elizondo means well and is just wrong and kind of dumb and misinformed. Same with the other government guys. But Corbell and Lazar are definitely either literally moronic, or just cons. Lazar is likely a scammer, but Corbell... I just can't tell.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I honestly am not sure if corbell is a liar or just incredibly stupid.
        He comes off as an attention prostitute if anything.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Anytime a documentary is officially made, it loses credibility. It is just a propaganda piece.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >docuseries?
    dont know anyhitng about it Im just glad that Kirkpatrick feller is giving them a reality check by calling out thier grifting bullshit

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >all classified clips they leak are of balloons
    mick was right

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Balloons? In infrared?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        looks fake af

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        yes.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          What is the explanation for it going hot to cold (black and white in IR)?
          Ground troops couldn't see it without IR too.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            https://twitter.com/MickWest/status/1744622427051868263
            >The object in this thermal camera footage isn't getting hotter and colder. It's just the exposure levels adjusting for the scene. Similar temperature objects in the background do the same.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          This is the shittiest, laziest, most homosexual debunk cope I have ever seen.
          It's barely one step removed from putting your hands over your eyes and yelling "I'M NOT SEEING ANY EVIDENCE"

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            youre right its obviously an an alien wake up sheeple!

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Flying way too straight for a balloon lmao frick off.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            a balloon can only fly straight

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Are you moronic?
              Any gust of wind would change its line and rotation.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                so there wasnt any change of wind?
                next...

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You can see the trees gently swaying in a different direction to the supposed wind that is carrying the balloon.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >it looks like a ballon
                >it acts like a ballon
                >it very likely could be a balloon
                no frick no, it's clearly an interdimensional flying jellyfish monster. it's obvious

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Where can I get balloons not visible to the naked eye and can only be seen through IR?
                Does the U.S. military usually let balloons fly over their bases?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                i know right. it's clearly some magical object, and according to my calculations the most likely scenario is that a jelly fish monster from the zorix dimension accidentally traveled to our solar system

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                This is the most likely explanation. Certainly not some sky trash ballon floating up real high in the middle of the night thus making it unseen. No way. Def some weird freakin jellyfish monster. I wonder what they want from us.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                it's the only logical explanation i can think of. anyone with a brain will look at that black and white video and instantly know that it is doing some supernatural feats of movement and material transformations that it simply cannot be made by something within our dimension or maybe even universe.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Exactly my thought. The characteristics its displaying are not even possible with known balloon sky trash technology. The way it manouvers and transforms are beyong anything weve seen on Earth. Im gettng chills whao!

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Even the U.S. government has acknowledged they don't have explanations for what has been seen.
                Remember, they are called unidentified objects. Key word being unidentified. The government isn't saying it is aliens because we don't know what it is.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >aliens are totally here you guys
                >they're just...invisible...t-thats right! you just can't see them!

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Why take that approach? You obviously have made up your mind and don't want any answers to what is going on. Even when top ranking officials and fighter pilots from multiple militaries around the world have reported hundreds if not thousands of unexplainable phenomenon.
                It's weird to me that you just want to dismiss it even though we don't know what is causing the phenomenon. Don't you want the real answer? I do, even if it proves it's all fake.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >causing the phenomenon
                theres no phenomenon

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >theres no phenomenon
                You can't just say that without explaining what is happening in all of the legitimate military footage and reports. And it can't just be a gut feeling. You need proof like recreating what was seen/reported.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                it all has been debunked. you guys lack a certain sobriety / level headeness. Youre in a ufo cult and its like a religion. Give it 20 or 30 years and then youll realise but for now ok its a fun story

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >it all has been debunked
                Source? There's a lot of military footage. Even if only one vid is real it's still a big deal.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Even if only one vid is real it's still a big deal.
                that's the problem, there's not a single shred of compelling evidence. Just grainy, ambiguous, and inconclusive footage of random stuff without much context

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                But anon said it was debunked. Still waiting on the source(s).

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous
              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                What does "real" mean to you? Is it an actual video? Yes. Has it been doctored? We dont know. What is actually being filmed? We dont know. Does any of it point to something ET? We dont know. Everything spectacular that these crafts supposedly do is never actually shown on these military videos. And for reference, I want this shit to be actual ET shit. But Im always skeptical, because everyone on media that talks about this is half a breath away from bringing up Skinwalker Ranch. I want a recovered craft. Until then, its anecdotes and unreliable footage

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'm extremely skeptical as well. And I just want to know the logical explanation for these things. Whether it be real or fake. That's the thing. Nothing can so far can totally sway me to one side or another. Especially not things like

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRbkOGu6Z78&t=2s

                that disprove all of the evidence that has been gathered throught the decades.
                And the fact that governments have actively ruined people's lives over such info just adds fuel to the fire that they have something to hide.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                If you need to prove that something is real, just listen to what the military and federal government approves for public consumption. Good job anon

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, maybe if the balloon bundles you've seen do not wiggle, turn, or shift their arrangement in the bundle while in wind that is strong enough to push them along at that speed. Like they were either one solid object, or held in place by struts. Totally normal balloon behavior, right?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Mick West has shown that clusters of balloons do act just like this. Of course it could be a crazy heckin jellyfish space monster too lmao

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The military doesn't allow random balloons to fly over the airspace of their bases.
                And the jellyfish name is because of the shape. People don't actually think its a "jellyfish space monster".

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          homie I'm Muslim and I've never seen a fricking eid balloon. What the frick is that, are they pretending it's common or? yeah I'm sure that specific sighting is of a specific random balloon that has been sold probably like 100 times lol.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Wasn't the video taken in the middle east?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        My favorite science youtuber says it's impossible to travel faster than light, so this is fake. God doesnt exist, Klein bottle does exist.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        something on a 8lb fishing line attached to a drone

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        lmaoooo this is obviously something at a very close distance of the camera

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Is that birdshit on a window?? IM GOING INSANE AAAAGGHHH!!!!!!!! lmao

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        the thing recording it is moving very fast, from very far away in the opposite direction to whatever that thing is, which is probably stationary

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      this guy is a morons idea of what a smart person is

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Reasons?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          completely uninspired and a total lack of spirit and low verbal IQ. 100 IQ larping as a 130 IQ "mediator of the truth"

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >they sucked his brains out

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    thought it was jake jillingprostitute for a moment

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      So I'm not the only one who noticed it, they have really similar eyes.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    He's an amateur.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    loved how he instantly discredited bob lazer and that hand scanner from close encounters movie
    i like bob, even though he is disinfo

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    yeah this fricking moron singlehandedly killed the missing 411 shit

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What happened? I liked the 411 stuff.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Missing 411 is a grift, anyone can see that.
      >woah people keep going missing on hiking trails, clearly this is supernatural in nature

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why is it that alien ship sightings are often different types of ships. Sometimes they're the flying saucers that spin and shoot up in the air. Other times they're the triangle ones, or they're boxes, or they're floating tic tacs, or they're long lines, yada yada yada. And the aliens people claim to see are all different, like the tall grey ones, or the short grey ones, or the black ones, or the hairy ones, or the hyperborean human ones. Nothing proves this shit is faker than the fact motherfrickers keep making up random alien designs they came up with as what they saw and other alien morons just accept it and think it's all real.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is the lowest IQ take in the thread.
      Why would the 'ships' all be the same?
      I don't even believe in UFOs but you're just a stupid c**t who disbelieves for stupid reasons.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There are a lot of explanations for why that would be the case, if we were to assume every single thing was real. Multiple species that either know each other in the form of a federation, or don't know each other and just happen to visit Earth as a point of interest; the same species with wide-ranging morphology; technological variation between species or innovation on pre-existing designs, or simply different purposes of the crafts (planes vs helicopters vs boats vs subs). There is also that larper who claimed there is a mothership which 3D-prints the ships tailored for specific designs. Just because things are different does not disprove anything.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        meds

        >trust me bro i have a source who i can't name who was there at the 1825 machu picchu incident
        >i gotta protect my source so i can't give details but...
        >buy my book
        is this one of the easiest grifts?

        yes it is, you can claim any stupid thing and youll have em eating it up

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why is it that human car sightings are often different types of cars? SOmetimes they're sleek cars. Othertimes they're giant trucks, or they're SUVs, or they're mini-coopers, yada yada yada. And the humans people claim to see are all different, like the tall white ones or the short brown ones or the hairy pale ones or the angry black ones. Nothing proves this shit is faker than the fact motherfrickers keep making up random human designs they came up with as what they saw and other human morons just accept it and think it's all real.

      That's literally what you're saying.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        enlightened post, thank you

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why does he look like Jack Murphy? Am I about to watch some guy get cucked in a UFO documentary?

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >trust me bro i have a source who i can't name who was there at the 1825 machu picchu incident
    >i gotta protect my source so i can't give details but...
    >buy my book
    is this one of the easiest grifts?

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    He's a useful idiot. Grusch seems to cringe away from him because he's probably aware of the damage to his image if he continues to be seen/mentioned with him.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >we need a credible scientist for our alien documentary

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >COMONE! Just steal a pen from the alliums when you are abducted!

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I want all this shit to be real just to see this smug prick taken down several pegs.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      In ep 2 or 3 one of the people rips into him. Pretty funny.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, I saw that too. Wasn't a bad documentary but I wish TMZ toned down the drama. Still, it got my mother, who doesn't remotely believe in any of this shit, to talk about it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, I saw that too. Wasn't a bad documentary but I wish TMZ toned down the drama. Still, it got my mother, who doesn't remotely believe in any of this shit, to talk about it.

        Episode 2 or 3 of what? Is this a samegay thing or did I miss something in the thread

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          https://tubitv.com/series/300002259/tmz-presents-ufo-revolution

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >starring Jeremy Corbell
            I'll take your word for it. Thank you though! His Mickey Rourke documentary almost made me drop the entire ET topic

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >ayliens are like all around us and been visiting for at least centuries
    >but also they haven't because of like global warming and nuclear proliferation

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    who is that? i grew up playing in bands with someone who looks identical but haven't seen him in 10+ years

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Jeremy Corbell. He's a UFO guy.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Who this? He looks like that dude from Throtl

    ?si=Vo9YDEo_tnwk9Vfg&t=132

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I couldn't even finish his Bob Lazar movie on Netflix. It seemed like he wanted to be the star and that Mickey Rourke narration was embarassing.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There's no one with any legitimacy in the alien discussion

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      this, mostly because nearly all of them are american.
      show me a bunch of chinese scientists seriously studying alien shit. Show me a fricking italian that's got a hoard of evidence.

      The entire world agreed upon the covid hoax and then a mere couple years later the murricans expect us to give a frick when they alone claim to be revealing alien activity. During a huge crisis of faith in their government being lost. frick off.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        There is an Austrian(?) scientist in the doc that discovered abnormal trajectories from an object in our solar system.
        He was ridiculed mercilessly even though he never said it was aliens and was only reporting what the data was. And this guy is respected in his field.
        It's slowly getting easier for actual respected people to speak but they still risk their reputation and livelihood because of the stigma.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't care if UFOs are real or fake. I just want to know what the hell those objects were that NORAD shot down over Alaska and Canada. First time in NORAD's 70 year history it shot something down and they won't even say what it is.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    who is this dude and why should we listen to him?He looks like a washed out rock star or biker

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      one of the guys who, by matter of being in the right place at the right time, is taking a leading role in the current ufo disclosure stuff

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      one of the guys who, by matter of being in the right place at the right time, is taking a leading role in the current ufo disclosure stuff

      his name is jeremy corbell

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He's a con artist, look into his history. Before he did the Bob Lazar thing he was selling his own fake martial arts videos.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >He's a con artist, look into his history. Before he did the Bob Lazar thing he was selling his own fake martial arts videos.
        Someone message Joe Rogan ASAP we need a live reaction to that.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What is it with frauds and martial arts? It's always martial arts.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Corridor crew just debooooooooonked your little fake and gay squid alien you dumb UFO Black folk

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Did you watch this? They didn't say this

      Balloons? In infrared?

      was fake because they couldn't disprove it. They literally said they still don't know what it is. Then they talk about other videos.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The afghan squid aint in that video.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that not a single UFO video or picture has ever turned out to be an alien. Whenever there is enough evidence UFO videos and pictures are always proven to be prosaic objects.

    Here's some articles and docu series showing you exactly how this whole UFO thing started in the media over the past 5 or so years.

    >KIRKPATRICK'S OP-ED
    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/heres-what-i-learned-as-the-u-s-governments-ufo-hunter/
    >EXCLUSIVE REPORT
    https://nypost.com/2023/03/21/ufo-believing-pentagon-bosses-missed-spy-craft-for-years/
    >INVESTIGATIVE DOCUMENTARY:

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    He's an industry plant.
    That's right, I'm saying he is a UFO.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Jake Gigglyhall has not aged well.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Where does the CIA even find these people?

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Jesus jake gyylenhaal is looking rough

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Well he has a good hairline for his age and a thick beard.
      Wish I had that.

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Have some jellyfish UFO kino

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i wish i could be there when you close minded gays see one for yourself. its fricking surreal. i was outside having a smoke with my bro in law on christmas eve circa 2016. huge red orb slowly approaches through the treeline in the back yard. no sound whatsoever. then it shot off up into the sky at 40 degrees. you want to know why so many people dont have videos? BECAUSE YOURE TOO BUSY STANDING THERE FROZEN IN AWE/FEAR WONDERING WHAT THE FRICK IS THAT

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I did see one back in 2016. A green orb that did some crazy back and forth zig zagging maneuvers then shot off at mach 5. No sound. No sonic boom. No visible propulsion. I don't see why it wouldn't be a military project. I doubt it was even a physical object. Probably just some hologram electronic warfare countermeasure meant to trick fighters and anti-air. Either that or a drone.

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's Mormons. all the way down.

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  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    We need a ufo paranormal crossover experience

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Who is a good source for yufos?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Meandraco on e621

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I think the hipster facade is his undoing. he seems like a sincere and competent filmmaker
    his fanbase want some raggedy homeless-looking guy like they tended to be in the 90s (who today would be a fentanyl-addicted lunatic spouting likely insane shit on social media disqualifying them from even qualifying for food stamps let alone an actual job of any sort but I digress)

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Glows like the freaking sun.

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Strange how many people here have already made up their mind that there is nothing out of the ordinary going on. What made you anons so sure?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >What made you anons so sure?
      watching the Grusch congressional hearing

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What, just because he has said multiple times that the IC and Federal government are literally telling him what to say makes you suspicious?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          He had full military permission to come out with his coverup claims. Isnt that a red flag? why would they allow that?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            They've decided what he can or cannot say. 60 years later and Kennedy documents are still redacted. The things that matter will never see the light of day.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I was a hardcore believer up to when Grusch came out and we had the congress hearing and I just knew nothing would come out of it. Thats when I flipped over to seeing the nature of this stuff, the way the world works, the psychology of people. Pilots are notoriously unreliable witnesses studies have shown that
      https://commons.erau.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1040&context=ijaaa

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        theres another study I meant to find but I couldnt find it

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Pilots are notoriously unreliable witnesses studies have shown that
        Can you share the study actual pilots? And fighter pilots? Militaries spend millions on training pilots to assess any situation. They are the most qualified to deem something out of the ordinary.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >They are the most qualified to deem something out of the ordinary.
          Thats a common myth. They are no better than anyone else and can be prone to magical thinking and primed to believing in ufos. Theyre just ordinary people like anyone.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Theyre actually a lot better than most people in almost every quantifiable category. But, I agree that they can be prone to being logically moronic. The standards to become a fighter pilot are incredibly high. But, like being a SEAL, tards slip through the gap. I agree that it doesnt make them a reliable witness at all, just saying you dont roll out of bed and become a military pilot (not counting warrant officer helo pilots, theyre barely literate).

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Be real, anon. They are trained to identify any possible debris or weather phenomenon. And they still have their instruments to use to further assess. Yet there are still cases that cannot be explained using all of human and computer knowledge.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This latest push. I've loved ufology since Sightings and UM, and it absolutely piqued my interest when the NYT and Fravor stuff hit. Then, when the hearings happened, and the podcast media blitz, and I heard the same obvious tells; Bob Lazar, Greer, Alazando, zero point, 4D beings, etc., I knew we had been bamboozled for hopefully the last time.

      I have never been more sure in my entire life that we have never interacted with an outside intelligence on any level.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What's crazy to me is there are still so many unexplained events yet you've just given up on getting a real answer. Maybe you haven't given up but the fact that you can say it's fake without a good explanation makes it seem like you have. It's sad to see that more people aren't hungry for answers from our governments.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You see, we did learn something. We learned that the government has next to no interest in what is potentially an unparalleled security crisis, let alone the most profound existential information one can possess.

          Does any one, any one of the people "coming forward" act as though they know the most important thing in human history?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >We learned that the government has next to no interest in what is potentially an unparalleled security crisis
            I don't think so. There is proof that the government has gone to extreme lengths to dissuade civilians from believing in UFOs. In so far as ruining lives.
            There is a huge incentive to keep it secret back when countries weren't as unified. No one would want to admit they are incapable of defending their land and citizens from an unknown threat.
            Today, the tone is slowly changing. Governments have openly acknowledged of such phenomenon. And yet some anons here are still saying it isn't real.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I feel very similarly. I love UFO stuff. I saw a UFO myself when I was a kid. Then years and years and years of learning how everything is fake and gay and reading countless books about government ops and secret military technology. Throughout it all, no real reason given for how sentient lifeforms could make the distance between here and literally anything else. Then all this glowing bullshit started coming out and it smelled exactly like every other psyop used to justify bigger budgets, and in this time of belt tightening. There are no ayys. There's Ted and Frank dressed up as greens fricking with Brazilians. There's the XX-99 conducting flight tests. There are balloons captured on radar made to look like fast moving objects. And there are many many many many many MANY many buttholes making fake videos that look fake but every fricking schizo thinks is real. I know schizos IRL. I know how they think. Just because they're skeptics doesn't mean they're intelligent, or have critical thinking skills. They don't. They barely understand material science let alone what would go into something like a conspiracy to cover up ayys.

        I WANT TO BELIEVE anons, but I simply do not.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The lack of concrete evidence. Military people and civilians have been swearing to seeing UFO's etc for what, 80 years? Now we have footage of........something. 50 years ago someone seeing a SR71 was a UFO. Give me a craft or a body, not grainy footage or a military pilot's highly redacted testamony. The same people telling you the tic tac UFO went from 80,000ft to sea level also believe that there are demons eating cows on a DIA and CIA controlled ranch

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Fair, but can I ask for concrete explanations for the unexplained footage? That's why I can't take sides just yet.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          the unexplained footage is either low quality bait or explainable and morons wont be satisfied. So which are you?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >the unexplained footage is either low quality bait or explainable
            Shouldn't that mean it can be explained either way? If the explanation is logical and can be proven then yes, I would be satisfied. This isn't a lot to ask for.

            Of course you can ask. But not getting an answer that satisfies you doesnt mean its an alien. I WANT all this shit to be aliens. Thats why Im so hesitant to believe any of it. You wouldnt think so, but Im as big of a UFO, paranormal, cryptid nut as almost any of the hardcore people in terms of interest and wanting to believe. I just have a higher burden of proof.

            Are the things in those videos unidentified? By the public, sure. By the IC and the military? We wont know unless they want us to. Youre talking about people that have staged coups, assassinated presidents and foreign leaders, and ran entire propaganda campaigns and and biological warfare testing against US citizens. And thats just shit we know about officially. You dont think a couple videos could be leaked and potentially doctored on purpose?

            Honestly, I don't care either way. I just want a logical explanation that can tell me either it is real or isn't. I'm not asking for much. There has just been no concrete evidence for either side yet.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >im not asking for much, just proof of either the first or second most important question since the dawn of human consciousness

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Thank you for acknowledging the importance of the quest for the truth to this question.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Youre right though. You arent asking for much, and theres a good chance youre the first person to ever have those thoughts

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              So you're moronic. It's okay to straight up admit it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Why am I moronic? Because I haven't jumped on the "there's nothing to see here" bandwagon yet? I'm not going to blindly follow you until all of these unexplained sightings have a logical explanation. Why am I moronic for wanting knowledge when you actively hide from it and don't want others to have it?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Don't feel bad bro. I've listened to several people I think are reasonably intelligent, down to Earth (no pun intended) critical thinkers and they leave the possibility open too.

                Me personally, I think it's all bullshit because I've learned about way too many that most people gobble up regardless of the evidence in front of their faces. People like their narratives. For 2000 years, everyone KNEW there was a god who didn't want them to maturbate and needed a percentage of their earnings. Some people still believe that shit, even in the face of everything we know, not the least of which is that this book was written by lying moneygrubbing pedophiles who wielded power like kings and edited the "word of god" over and over again based on the agenda they wanted to push. We KNOW that now, and yet...

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                *learned about way too many >lies<

                Sorry I'm falling asleep here. I hope you find the answers you seek anon!

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >they leave the possibility open too.
                That's all I'm doing and what any logical person should do. Why wouldn't you? Just because something else unrelated to this topic was lied about doesn't mean you should just disengage.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I also don't leave the possibility open that gremlins live in the clouds and the moon is made of cheese. We all draw the line somewhere.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Why are you being an butthole? You bring up far fetched ideas unrelated to the real video evidence.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Okay now you're being obviously insincere.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                NTA, but I'll engage with it when you guys have more credible evidence instead of clutching your pearls any time somebody mentions that your nothing-video isn't very interesting.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                If it's a nothing video why can't any government prove it's fake? Why can't you prove it's fake? Until then I'll keep an open mind to both possibilities.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It's not 'fake', there is just nothing interesting happening in any of the videos, and all the testimony is third hand he said she said bullshit.
                The problem is that the ufo community has it in their head that the *things* on video are doing these impossible things, when the reality is that nothing is happening in the videos.
                There's nothing to 'prove' wrong. Random shit flies around all the time everywhere in current year. Yeah sure, sometimes it can actually be tracked down to a specific balloon type, or a specific plane, or a specific star/flare/drone/etc. But not every single video can be positively debunked, but there's also nothing happening in the videos so what's the fricking point of bothering?
                Get a good video that actually lines up with the testimony instead of a boring video with testimony that assures us that something amazing happened before or after the video was recorded.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >nothing interesting or happening in the video
                Nobody can explain what is flying! How it can only be visible with infrared and why it goes hot to cold. How it can fly over military bases without sounding alarms or why it can not be engaged with our own weapons.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Nobody can explain what is flying!
                Nothing is flying, it's a smudge on one of the optics or lens covers
                >How it can only be visible with infrared and why it goes hot to cold.
                It is changing infrared colors because it's not in focus and is just scattering random infrared inconsistently based on the general light in the scene, it's not actually changing colors. Infra is not inherently 'the temperature of the thing', it's like just like any other and reflects and refracts and scatters.
                >How it can fly over military bases without sounding alarms or why it can not be engaged with our own weapons
                again, didn't fly, the video is of nothing

                The problem is that you're coming at this with the conclusion that it's a thing flying over the base, so you run into all these other problems that make it seem like it's impossible to explain without aliens or advanced technology. Except maybe you're initial assumption is just wrong? Idk, just a thought.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                just some dirt on the screen

                I've heard that before. But at this point it's your word against the military personnel who put out the video. It's not even a very good explanation since professionals say otherwise.
                And it still doesn't explain away all of the other cases throughout the military.
                I wish you had more concrete evidence but there is a lot you would have to explain away. Don't get me wrong, I don't lean one way or another. But it's going to take 100% irrefutable proof to make up my mind.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >I demand proof that these ambiguous videos aren't aliens
                if you're so impartial why does the negative position need to be the one providing conclusive proof?
                I mean if you're just saying you're on the fence and like to keep your eye on this for more compelling videos because it's fun, then fine, we're in the same boat. But I have a suspicion that you go around arguing that the pyramid space ships were aliens because "THEY'RE SHOWING UP ON RADAR!". Anyone who thinks there's 'a lot you would have to explain away' that hasn't already been explained away I think is being willfully obtuse. Extraordinary claims/extraordinary evidence and all that.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                hes arguing in bad faith. dont waste your finger strength.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Wrong. The cameras have a glass dome over the moving camera so any debris would not have followed the moving camera inside the housing.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, if you haven't realized yet you haven't disproved this video

                Balloons? In infrared?

                You can say it's dirt or bird shit on the screen but what's your proof? Nothing you said is convincing and actually goes against what professionals say about the same video.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No, I agree. I can't disprove the video. I can offer you a conventional explanation of what it could be. But it could also be an alien, you're free to believe that if you think it's likely.
                I admittedly haven't listened to much 'expert' commentary on it because I don't take any of the UFO 'experts' seriously because of how desperately people want things to be aliens I find it hard to take them at their word, especially given how often they double down when they are proven incorrect, in cases like the green pyramids, or the 'experts' disagreeing with the manuals and specs on the FLIR pods, that kind of thing.

                Do you know what Elizondo said when he was actually explained the accepted debunks of the 3 navy videos? He said that he understands that they might not be very compelling, but that he's seen other stuff that is and hopefully it will be released.
                The problem I have with this, is that he supposedly headed the task force investigating them, and yet he literally did not understand what the debunking explanations were without great difficulty - suggesting that they did not investigate those possibilities. The FLIR 'expert' at least claimed they were wrong for specific reasons, except the manuals and specs were contrary to what he was claiming.
                Given that, why would I expect the still classified videos that Elizondo has seen are any more compelling when he's proven to not have a good radar on what constitutes a compelling video?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                When I say professionals I mean people video professionals. Not UFO people. People who are familiar with and can recognize every trick in the book when it comes to video manipulation.
                And that video has not been proven fake (yet?).
                All we can do is keep chipping away at the validity of the evidence. New technology should help with that endeavor. But when we come across footage that cannot be readily explained we should acknowledge it and realize we don't know everything (yet?).

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                just some dirt on the screen

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Of course you can ask. But not getting an answer that satisfies you doesnt mean its an alien. I WANT all this shit to be aliens. Thats why Im so hesitant to believe any of it. You wouldnt think so, but Im as big of a UFO, paranormal, cryptid nut as almost any of the hardcore people in terms of interest and wanting to believe. I just have a higher burden of proof.

          Are the things in those videos unidentified? By the public, sure. By the IC and the military? We wont know unless they want us to. Youre talking about people that have staged coups, assassinated presidents and foreign leaders, and ran entire propaganda campaigns and and biological warfare testing against US citizens. And thats just shit we know about officially. You dont think a couple videos could be leaked and potentially doctored on purpose?

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Wait… there are non-boomers that believe this shit?

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you dumbasses believe alien beings from another planet (or dimension, if you want to use that word as part of your massive cope) traveled here and are just chilling in the shadows, you are a heavyweight dumbass and you should be cast out into the middle of the ocean so your genes don't propagate.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Can we first just get explanations to what people are seeing before saying anything is extraterrestrial? One step at a time. There are so many unexplained sightings.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        There are three explanations that cover all unexplaind sightings:

        >you didn't see what you thought you saw
        >you saw something but it's a normal thing
        >black budget government projects

        Let's quit pretending eyewitnesses are infallible because there's a reason eyewitness testimony is unreliable. People see shit all the time that isn't there, and vice versa. They also see balloons and planes and birds and think it's ayyliums. And some, I assume, are aircraft cooked up at China Lake that we won't even know about until WW3 kicks off because the element of surprise is paramount.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          See

          Be real, anon. They are trained to identify any possible debris or weather phenomenon. And they still have their instruments to use to further assess. Yet there are still cases that cannot be explained using all of human and computer knowledge.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That other anon already answered the question with a perfectly reasonable response. Not to mention any of these guys could be LYING. Do you people not remember that human beings LIE to each other constantly? You guys believe they're LYING about the nonexistence of aliens, so why not believe the ayy pushers are LYING in the other direction? Oh because that goes counter to what you want to be true? This guy said it best:

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            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Every flight a military pilot takes is recorded. Footage and data do not lie.

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    bro that's jake gyllenhaal in star trek makeup

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