As cute as JConn is, she's like 50 now >have a shit failed life with a annoying teenage son >along comes this cute latina who you cuddle in a dark hallway every night >you can create your own worlds and cruise to another when you get bored >she creates an ultra comfy one for you both to live >"no I want to go back to my shit life and get treated like crap by my annoying fricking kid who never shuts up"
What a dumb c**t
I wish we had more Dark Matter threads instead of the latest woke garbage show ir youtube drama. Easily the best scifi show in years.
>Evil imposter Jason is real Jason
You are 100% wrong
He wants his family not someone he met 2h ago. Plus, he can always go to the utopia world with his family. Also, she didn't create it, it always existed, she just found the correct path to it.
Last episode was rushed as frick. Looked up the book ending and its way better. sad.
It was a bit rushed, but there is one more to wrap it up, so we haven't seen the ending yet. The things they omitted are not that important. 10 episodes would have been better than 9 though. Still, the book author wrote some of the show scripts and was consulting thoroughly. What you see on the screen is pretty faithful to the novel. Entire scenes are 1 to 1.
Apparently the book is a mess and the writing sucks really bad.
The book is fine. It's what is called "Wallmart scifi". It's not hard scifi. It's a quick read on the train type of thing, but it's on the upper end of those. It's not trash.
>you are 100% wrong
How am I wrong? He was the one who created the box therefore made the alternative universe spawn. Multiverse is not a real thing on it's own. It can only be created.
>therefore made the alternative universe spawn. Multiverse is not a real thing on it's own. It can only be created.
Nope. All the alternate universes exists already and new ones are spawned with every decision. Truly infinite. The box allows you to access them by putting you in a certain state, that's it.
are you actually moronic? do you think the box is real? wtf am I reading.
1 week ago
Anonymous
People who try to explain this show believe it's real with their fake science like quantum mechanics.
They've been following the book fairly accurately and that's not what happens in the book. Jason and his family are going to flee using the box and that's it. Since there has been talks about another season they'll probably leave it open so there's the possibility of other Jasons coming after them.
Even though Jason who gets kidnapped at the beginning is the Jason we follow, he is simply a created world from Jason 2 who kidnapped him and entered the box first. Whoever opens the multiverse is the first Jason.
1 week ago
Anonymous
That's not what happens in the book so I don't know why you're trying to push this theory.
1 week ago
Anonymous
For one it's not the book and two it never explains it in the book
1 week ago
Anonymous
The author is literally writing the script for the show kek
1 week ago
Anonymous
The show has followed the book closely and it's explained very thoroughly in the book. They don't deviate from the book in the last few episodes and it seems like you might have severe reading comprehension issues.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Okay smart guy, where are the other Jason 2s that spawned over the months that he spent trying to find a world to steal?
1 week ago
Anonymous
You keep using the word spawn. They aren't spawning ffs.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Yes it does. You're telling me that they are able to visit an infinite amount of parallel worlds just because they think about them? No. They are on drugs in a satanic box.
1 week ago
Mr. Eko
>You're telling me that they are able to visit an infinite amount of parallel worlds just because they think about them?
The thinking part just helps you find a specific world. It doesn't create anything.
>satanic box
kek
1 week ago
Anonymous
If ther is an infinite universe of different worlds, it would be impossible to go to an exact world, yet Jason 2 able to go back and fourth where he wants. That would not be possible if it was infinite.
1 week ago
Anonymous
he trained himself to go there (so the character said) >yes it is a bit silly
1 week ago
Mr. Eko
>That would not be possible if it was infinite.
Why not? When you think about the specific features of the world it's loke dialing a number of putting in GPS coordinates.
Also if you want to mess with it even more, there are many worlds in which Jason2 kidnaps Jason1. When Jason1 returns to his world he might have returned to a world where the only difference is some dude in Australia swatting a fly with 2 swipes instead of 3 swipes lole in the actual Jason1 world. How would you know if the difference is not immediately and blatantly apparent?
>There are other Jason's who have invented their own box and travel around. Potentially an infinite amount, because a portion of infinity is infinite in itself.
No there is not. You can't just have infinite universes. You telling me that just because I take a shit at a different time, I spawn a new universe?
It's more like while taking the shit you strain 0.1 seconds longer on the final push kek. It has to be the same event that splits, the same decision. Now apply that for every decision, to every conscious being 24/7 since humans evolved.
1 week ago
Anonymous
You clearly can't grasp the abstract concepts of the show. There isn't a timeline tree that branches out everytime a decision is made, it's more like there's an infinite amount of trees behind the first tree which you can see but can't see at the same time because at the same time it's the same tree but it's not. You can also "see" all the branches but can't tell what tree they belong to because from our 3 dimensional point of view it's the same tree from all angles. This is illustrated by the hallway of infinite doors; it's a copy of the same door but it's not and the drug let's them visualize them and interact with the branches. Therefore the box and superposition comes into play and they can "control" where they go by thinking hard about it because a version of themselves which is themselves has done it before and is going to do it.
It's basically a fixed position of consciousness but the views vary and people can force a certain view to happen within the hallway.
1 week ago
Mr. Eko
>It's basically a fixed position of consciousness but the views vary and people can force a certain view to happen within the hallway.
That's well said. Neat.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Probably kidnapping other Jasons in other universes
1 week ago
Mr. Eko
>it never explains it in the book
It is. Jason has long monologues about it.
>I wish we had more Dark Matter threads instead of the latest woke garbage show ir youtube drama. Easily the best scifi show in years.
Ok I'm watching one episode of this, but if you guys bamboozled me with your shilling, I'm taking Cinemaphile down for good.
Coke back and call me names. I don't lie about recommendations. Even if you don't like it, you'll appreciate the effort that went into it. If you loke scifi you will 100% enjoy it.
1 week ago
Mr. Eko
>he is simply a created world from Jason2
Nothing is created by the box. There is no original Jason/Universe. Once a decision is made by a conscious being the universe splits and both have the same history up to that moment. The people in those universes have experienced and lived their lives from the start. All universes are equally the original because they have all existed since the Big Bang, because when a split happens it doesn't erase or create anything. >
Whoever opens the multiverse is the first Jason.
There are other Jason's who have invented their own box and travel around. Potentially an infinite amount, because a portion of infinity is infinite in itself.
I understand you have built some head canon about this, but it's not what's in the book and what the author intended.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>There are other Jason's who have invented their own box and travel around. Potentially an infinite amount, because a portion of infinity is infinite in itself.
No there is not. You can't just have infinite universes. You telling me that just because I take a shit at a different time, I spawn a new universe?
>I wish we had more Dark Matter threads instead of the latest woke garbage show ir youtube drama. Easily the best scifi show in years.
Ok I'm watching one episode of this, but if you guys bamboozled me with your shilling, I'm taking Cinemaphile down for good.
Silo and Dark Matter are my top picks. Good taste, anon
>Ok I'm watching one episode of this, but if you guys bamboozled me with your shilling, I'm taking Cinemaphile down for good.
your loss man, the show could have been the new "sliders" and instead they chose to go with...muh feelz and something...
do not waste your time on this
It would be a different story then. It's faithful to the book. AFAIK they are not looking to make S2, but who knows especially if it makes them money.
Okay smart guy, where are the other Jason 2s that spawned over the months that he spent trying to find a world to steal?
They are out there. There are an INFINITE number of worlds, anon. Provided all the Jason2s retained the same drive to find a family then they can all find a world of their own and never cross paths with the other Jason2s. They can kidnap another Jason1 or find a world where he died or something and take his place (like Amanda did). Use your imagination. They are not aiming for the same world, so they don't cross paths.
Jason1 is crossing the paths of the other Jason1s, because they all want one specific family - the Jason1 in the Jason1 reality.
>Ok I'm watching one episode of this, but if you guys bamboozled me with your shilling, I'm taking Cinemaphile down for good.
your loss man, the show could have been the new "sliders" and instead they chose to go with...muh feelz and something...
do not waste your time on this
>your loss man, the show could have been the new "sliders" and instead they chose to go with...muh feelz and something... >do not waste your time on this
Soooooo this. Its a frickin garbage
That's nothing compared to the constant barrage of globohomosexual propaganda in every other show.
You forget the black female scientist in the world with the giant hornet thingies being lesbian and a couple other things, but it's still nothing compared to the usual garbage.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>Female psychologist explains a male genius how to locate the cube using a compass.
1 week ago
Mr. Eko
Kek. I don't remember offhand if that was in the book. Anyway, if they don't have the required minimum amount of those scenes and casting the required racial/sex mix, the show would not get made.
I'm happy that we can point to half a dozen propaganda moments in 8 episodes instead of half a dozen per 5 minutes. It's still something. It doesn’t throw you out if the narrative.
They've been following the book fairly accurately and that's not what happens in the book. Jason and his family are going to flee using the box and that's it. Since there has been talks about another season they'll probably leave it open so there's the possibility of other Jasons coming after them.
Listen, I don't post in these threads because I love the show and don't want spoilers. I've seen you guys try to drum up interest. Instead of that, you're ruining the show for those already watching.
FRICK YOU
All right what would (you) do if you had the box? Obviously you could go to enough labs to stock up on the serum or even have someone manufactured it for you. What then?
Go to post-apocalyptic worlds for the destruction porn?
Go to normal worlds and do stupid shit without consequences and then leave?
Try to put massive conspiracies in motion to take over the world(s) for fun?
Chill on utopia worlds?
Go empty worlds and build a house in the middle of nowhere?
Find worlds that are a little behind in technology and become a billionaire with your superior knowledge?
For the moment let's leave out the idea of permanently living in an alternate world, and let's say you just want to visit and then come back to your world. In that scenario you'd want to look up some technology that doesn't exist in your world to see if you could recreate it. Or maybe look up what the popular movies or TV shows, or music, or books are in that world, and copy those ideas in your world. Basically take ideas that are valuable to financially gain in your original world.
If we are talking about permanently living in an alternate world, then you either have to take out your double or find one where you don't exist, but then you'd need to get a new identity to do most things, and then you still have to figure out how you will support yourself there, which brings back the ideas from my first paragraph.
the Jason that meets his wife and son by the bean is not the real Jason we have been following. what I don't get is why the one who was in the car with her thought she would not freak out when he laid the alternate reality shit on her.
our jason does not have any cuts on his face the smoking jason did. there are 3 jasons that we know of that are in Chicago on top of the original imposter jason.
I read the book but can't remember if it addresses this.
How does the box materialise in universes where the box wasn't invented? Such as the Jason1 world?
Well isn't the point of the box to shield those inside from literally all external stimuli that may collapse the waveform of the consciousness of the minds inside which have been put into superposition with the drug (i.e. Literal schrodingers box)
So it's not the box that moves universe, it's what's inside, the drug allows their mind to be in a superposition of many states simultaneously, and the box is just protecting them from all external stimuli that may collapse it
He didn't get to it. The box doesn't move. The outside does.
1 week ago
Anonymous
If Jason 1 went to the spot where the box is a day before he got kidnapped, what would he find?
1 week ago
Anonymous
A box
1 week ago
Anonymous
Put there by who?
1 week ago
Anonymous
Jason2 entering Jason1's world. He spent months there before the kidnapping thing.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Okay, you know what I meant.
If Jason 1 went there years before he was kidnapped, what would he find?
1 week ago
Anonymous
Nothing. An empty warehouse. The Box is there only after Jason2 uses it to enter this world.
1 week ago
Anonymous
So how does Jason1 knows that he needs to go to that warehouse?
1 week ago
Anonymous
What? I don't understand.
1 week ago
Anonymous
how does he think it will help him to find true love by going to that warehouse? why?
1 week ago
Anonymous
He knows about the warehouse, because that's where he exited after he ran away from the lab. Either I don't understand what you are saying or you are confused about events.
Was there a box in Jason1's world before Jason2 arrives?
If no, then how does it get there to allow Jason2 to arrive?
>Was there a box in Jason1's world before Jason2 arrives?
No
>if no, then how does it get there to allow Jason2 to arrive?
It doesn't allow anything. The box is not a spaceship. It creates absolute sensory deprivation, so the serum can put you into superposition, that's it. It's an isolation tank. Everything happens because of the intelligence inside of it thinking and observing.
I'd you have a problem with the box showing up physically instead of just being a door hovering or something just accept that's how it works in that universe.
1 week ago
Anonymous
The biggest repercussions is that they leave the box on all the planets they leave and not to mention all the other people that got lost in the box and all their clones. Eventually governments are going to be researching them on every world.
1 week ago
Mr. Eko
>The biggest repercussions is that they leave the box on all the planets they leave >
The box leaves with the traveller. It doesn’t stay behind (Jason2 leaving his friend in utopia world).
not to mention all the other people that got lost in the box and all their clones. Eventually governments are going to be researching them on every world.
True, but considering we are talking about infinite worlds it will always be a drop in a pond.
How did Jason2 make it so that Jason1 woke up in Jason2's old world (or something very similar)
Jason2 went with him and threw him out of the box lol.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>Jason2 went with him and threw him out of the box lol.
Oh forgot that bit
1 week ago
Mr. Eko
I forgot Amanda existed in the book. I thought she was an original character lol.
The story is it's own thing. Black Science Man or anyone else can claim whatever they want, it has no relation to an original story. The box is a sensory deprivation chamber. It doesn’t create wormholes or anything like that.
its*
1 week ago
Anonymous
>The box leaves with the traveller. It doesn’t stay behind (Jason2 leaving his friend in utopia world).
This is not true. The box stays behind. He left drugs for Amanda to leave. Even if your theory is correct, anyone Jason 2 maroons on another world is actually a traveler so the box would stay for them.
1 week ago
Mr. Eko
That's a fair point. I don't remember if that was in the book. Same with the highway scene.
Even if the box remains after the person leaves the world it means nothing. It's just a fancy metal box. Probably think it's a prank. It's useless without the drugs. People would just sell it to the junkyard for metal.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Then how does the box materialise there if it only allows what's inside to move universe?!
1 week ago
Anonymous
Who said that? There is no movement man, it's not a tardis. When you enter the serum state you collapse the putside quantum state based in what you are thinking.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Was there a box in Jason1's world before Jason2 arrives?
If no, then how does it get there to allow Jason2 to arrive?
1 week ago
Anonymous
Magic lol,but they call it quantum physics so normies believe it
1 week ago
Anonymous
The box just teleports into the world's in the same spot. Remember one of the world's it made the box begin to sink in the lake from the surface where they spawned in. The whole story makes no sense.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Exactly, Jason 2 makes Jason 1's world come into existence by opening the multiverse. My theory is, there is no such thing as parallel universes. There is only this world. Jason 2 literally opened a satanic portal into hell. Story would have been better if we followed Jason 2.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>Jason 1's world come into existence by opening the multiverse.
The box is there after he "travels" to the world, but the world has existed all along. Why would the box be there before the travel? In the book the multiverse and parallel worlds exist. What you say is cool but it's another story not the one in the book/show.
Also, don't forget there are numerous Jasons who have invented the box. I don't mean splits of Jason2. Other Jasons from their own original worlds. Does each one "open up" a different multiverse? Obviously all the worlds exists.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>If Jason 1 went there years before he was kidnapped, what would he find?
a BOX mother fricker!
Doesn't happen in the book, so we don't know. Probably both end up in the same box, because physically they are there. The corridor is how your brain interprets superposition, it's not the box extending physically. The author was bombarded with similar questions and he said he has thought of answers about some of them, but the rest is up to the reader.
the box is supposed to act as a wormhole to another world or some stupid pseudoscience. At least that's how Neil Tyrone Tyson says is how you would travel between universes.
The story is it's own thing. Black Science Man or anyone else can claim whatever they want, it has no relation to an original story. The box is a sensory deprivation chamber. It doesn’t create wormholes or anything like that.
Because Jason 2 just wishes it like Dorthy. Don't forget Jason 1 and Amanda accidently went back to that exact world. Also Jason 2 went back to twice. Once to drop off Jason 1 and once to grab more drugs off the wall.
>There are a lot of Jasons in Dark Matter. Do you see any of the Jasons as the real one? Does the fact that one particular Jason narrates the novel help you to sympathize more towards him or to see him as the OG Jason?
>Blake Crouch’s answer: Ah, this is a great question! I think it’s interesting that you ask about the “real” Jason, because the truth is, there’s no one “real” Jason. Each Jason is a version of the same person, but with different experiences, different choices, and different outcomes. The fact that one particular Jason narrates the novel is meant to create a sense of intimacy and immediacy, but it’s not meant to imply that he’s the “real” Jason. Instead, it’s meant to show that each Jason has his own story to tell, and that each story is valid and important.
They need to adapt the In Times Like These novels by Nathan Van Coops. Similar premise except it's time travel, a very satisfying and consistent time travel mechanic, about a guy trying to get back to his own time, and running into versions of himself, with lots of good side characters too
Is it acrually good? Female protagonist screams woke garbage nowadays. One can never know. I'm a bug fan of time travel and alternate reality/multiverse books, but good quality ones are hard to fund. Especially modern ones.
The first starts as an obvious homage to Back to the Future but it goes its own way eventually.
The second is the best IMO, would make a great TV series
nuh uh
>jennifer comedy
jennifer cannoli
I'd fill her with my ricotta, if you get what I'm saying.
As cute as JConn is, she's like 50 now
>have a shit failed life with a annoying teenage son
>along comes this cute latina who you cuddle in a dark hallway every night
>you can create your own worlds and cruise to another when you get bored
>she creates an ultra comfy one for you both to live
>"no I want to go back to my shit life and get treated like crap by my annoying fricking kid who never shuts up"
What a dumb c**t
I wish we had more Dark Matter threads instead of the latest woke garbage show ir youtube drama. Easily the best scifi show in years.
>Evil imposter Jason is real Jason
You are 100% wrong
He wants his family not someone he met 2h ago. Plus, he can always go to the utopia world with his family. Also, she didn't create it, it always existed, she just found the correct path to it.
It was a bit rushed, but there is one more to wrap it up, so we haven't seen the ending yet. The things they omitted are not that important. 10 episodes would have been better than 9 though. Still, the book author wrote some of the show scripts and was consulting thoroughly. What you see on the screen is pretty faithful to the novel. Entire scenes are 1 to 1.
The book is fine. It's what is called "Wallmart scifi". It's not hard scifi. It's a quick read on the train type of thing, but it's on the upper end of those. It's not trash.
>you are 100% wrong
How am I wrong? He was the one who created the box therefore made the alternative universe spawn. Multiverse is not a real thing on it's own. It can only be created.
>therefore made the alternative universe spawn. Multiverse is not a real thing on it's own. It can only be created.
Nope. All the alternate universes exists already and new ones are spawned with every decision. Truly infinite. The box allows you to access them by putting you in a certain state, that's it.
There's no proof alternative universes exists. It's not real science.
Which is an irrelevant comment to what we were discussing. They exist in the show.
Well that's weird because I thought this was a documentary.
are you actually moronic? do you think the box is real? wtf am I reading.
People who try to explain this show believe it's real with their fake science like quantum mechanics.
Even though Jason who gets kidnapped at the beginning is the Jason we follow, he is simply a created world from Jason 2 who kidnapped him and entered the box first. Whoever opens the multiverse is the first Jason.
That's not what happens in the book so I don't know why you're trying to push this theory.
For one it's not the book and two it never explains it in the book
The author is literally writing the script for the show kek
The show has followed the book closely and it's explained very thoroughly in the book. They don't deviate from the book in the last few episodes and it seems like you might have severe reading comprehension issues.
Okay smart guy, where are the other Jason 2s that spawned over the months that he spent trying to find a world to steal?
You keep using the word spawn. They aren't spawning ffs.
Yes it does. You're telling me that they are able to visit an infinite amount of parallel worlds just because they think about them? No. They are on drugs in a satanic box.
>You're telling me that they are able to visit an infinite amount of parallel worlds just because they think about them?
The thinking part just helps you find a specific world. It doesn't create anything.
>satanic box
kek
If ther is an infinite universe of different worlds, it would be impossible to go to an exact world, yet Jason 2 able to go back and fourth where he wants. That would not be possible if it was infinite.
he trained himself to go there (so the character said)
>yes it is a bit silly
>That would not be possible if it was infinite.
Why not? When you think about the specific features of the world it's loke dialing a number of putting in GPS coordinates.
Also if you want to mess with it even more, there are many worlds in which Jason2 kidnaps Jason1. When Jason1 returns to his world he might have returned to a world where the only difference is some dude in Australia swatting a fly with 2 swipes instead of 3 swipes lole in the actual Jason1 world. How would you know if the difference is not immediately and blatantly apparent?
It's more like while taking the shit you strain 0.1 seconds longer on the final push kek. It has to be the same event that splits, the same decision. Now apply that for every decision, to every conscious being 24/7 since humans evolved.
You clearly can't grasp the abstract concepts of the show. There isn't a timeline tree that branches out everytime a decision is made, it's more like there's an infinite amount of trees behind the first tree which you can see but can't see at the same time because at the same time it's the same tree but it's not. You can also "see" all the branches but can't tell what tree they belong to because from our 3 dimensional point of view it's the same tree from all angles. This is illustrated by the hallway of infinite doors; it's a copy of the same door but it's not and the drug let's them visualize them and interact with the branches. Therefore the box and superposition comes into play and they can "control" where they go by thinking hard about it because a version of themselves which is themselves has done it before and is going to do it.
It's basically a fixed position of consciousness but the views vary and people can force a certain view to happen within the hallway.
>It's basically a fixed position of consciousness but the views vary and people can force a certain view to happen within the hallway.
That's well said. Neat.
Probably kidnapping other Jasons in other universes
>it never explains it in the book
It is. Jason has long monologues about it.
Coke back and call me names. I don't lie about recommendations. Even if you don't like it, you'll appreciate the effort that went into it. If you loke scifi you will 100% enjoy it.
>he is simply a created world from Jason2
Nothing is created by the box. There is no original Jason/Universe. Once a decision is made by a conscious being the universe splits and both have the same history up to that moment. The people in those universes have experienced and lived their lives from the start. All universes are equally the original because they have all existed since the Big Bang, because when a split happens it doesn't erase or create anything.
>
Whoever opens the multiverse is the first Jason.
There are other Jason's who have invented their own box and travel around. Potentially an infinite amount, because a portion of infinity is infinite in itself.
I understand you have built some head canon about this, but it's not what's in the book and what the author intended.
>There are other Jason's who have invented their own box and travel around. Potentially an infinite amount, because a portion of infinity is infinite in itself.
No there is not. You can't just have infinite universes. You telling me that just because I take a shit at a different time, I spawn a new universe?
>I wish we had more Dark Matter threads instead of the latest woke garbage show ir youtube drama. Easily the best scifi show in years.
Ok I'm watching one episode of this, but if you guys bamboozled me with your shilling, I'm taking Cinemaphile down for good.
>Easily the best scifi show in years.
It's much worse than Severance and Silo.
Silo and Dark Matter are my top picks. Good taste, anon
It would be a different story then. It's faithful to the book. AFAIK they are not looking to make S2, but who knows especially if it makes them money.
They are out there. There are an INFINITE number of worlds, anon. Provided all the Jason2s retained the same drive to find a family then they can all find a world of their own and never cross paths with the other Jason2s. They can kidnap another Jason1 or find a world where he died or something and take his place (like Amanda did). Use your imagination. They are not aiming for the same world, so they don't cross paths.
Jason1 is crossing the paths of the other Jason1s, because they all want one specific family - the Jason1 in the Jason1 reality.
>Ok I'm watching one episode of this, but if you guys bamboozled me with your shilling, I'm taking Cinemaphile down for good.
your loss man, the show could have been the new "sliders" and instead they chose to go with...muh feelz and something...
do not waste your time on this
>your loss man, the show could have been the new "sliders" and instead they chose to go with...muh feelz and something...
>do not waste your time on this
Soooooo this. Its a frickin garbage
The show is bad except for the last few episodes.
the first few episodes are a bit shit because the characters act moronic, but it does get good towards the end.
>but it does get good towards the end.
Interesting. For me the episodes where they explore other worlds are the peak of the show. The ending is meh compared to those imho.
>nstead of the latest woke garbage show ir youtube drama
>DarkMatter
>Not woke garbage
Black person are you fricking serious?
Compared to Acolyte or Rings of Power it's a bastion of normalcy.
I counted 3 interracial relationship up to the last episode. Dude, the show is woke trash
That's nothing compared to the constant barrage of globohomosexual propaganda in every other show.
You forget the black female scientist in the world with the giant hornet thingies being lesbian and a couple other things, but it's still nothing compared to the usual garbage.
>Female psychologist explains a male genius how to locate the cube using a compass.
Kek. I don't remember offhand if that was in the book. Anyway, if they don't have the required minimum amount of those scenes and casting the required racial/sex mix, the show would not get made.
I'm happy that we can point to half a dozen propaganda moments in 8 episodes instead of half a dozen per 5 minutes. It's still something. It doesn’t throw you out if the narrative.
What are some good hard sci fi books? Old or new, what are your favorites?
The first 5 that popped into my head. All kf them are top tier and among my most liked novels. Revelarion Space is my favourite of all time.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Revelation_Space_series
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Suns
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Fire_Upon_the_Deep
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schild%27s_Ladder
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_of_Time_(novel)
Last episode was rushed as frick. Looked up the book ending and its way better. sad.
Apparently the book is a mess and the writing sucks really bad.
Recursion is the messy one with a shit ending
why didn't they include the part where all the Jasons (at least 14 of them) meet in an internet chatroom and argue about the situation.
Too corny
zoomers don't know what chatrooms are and it would translate poorly to tv probably
>literally hell
Would love to read what that cringe lord saw
I love the way they’re handling their multiverse in this show.
The book sucked.
They've been following the book fairly accurately and that's not what happens in the book. Jason and his family are going to flee using the box and that's it. Since there has been talks about another season they'll probably leave it open so there's the possibility of other Jasons coming after them.
All this show does is remind me that I want to see more Jodelle Ferland kino.
apparently the book is also not good...
shartpple shills are in full force today
they're all real, moron
does jennconn show her deflated breasts in this? or better yet, her feet?
She a mediocre actress and shes ugly and she old.
Listen, I don't post in these threads because I love the show and don't want spoilers. I've seen you guys try to drum up interest. Instead of that, you're ruining the show for those already watching.
FRICK YOU
>discussing tv shows on a tv show board is bad
Unironically no one has posted any spoilers itt except one dude
Not my problem
All right what would (you) do if you had the box? Obviously you could go to enough labs to stock up on the serum or even have someone manufactured it for you. What then?
Go to post-apocalyptic worlds for the destruction porn?
Go to normal worlds and do stupid shit without consequences and then leave?
Try to put massive conspiracies in motion to take over the world(s) for fun?
Chill on utopia worlds?
Go empty worlds and build a house in the middle of nowhere?
Find worlds that are a little behind in technology and become a billionaire with your superior knowledge?
rape
Get to the world where I won the lottery, off the original and then it's smooth sailing.
For the moment let's leave out the idea of permanently living in an alternate world, and let's say you just want to visit and then come back to your world. In that scenario you'd want to look up some technology that doesn't exist in your world to see if you could recreate it. Or maybe look up what the popular movies or TV shows, or music, or books are in that world, and copy those ideas in your world. Basically take ideas that are valuable to financially gain in your original world.
If we are talking about permanently living in an alternate world, then you either have to take out your double or find one where you don't exist, but then you'd need to get a new identity to do most things, and then you still have to figure out how you will support yourself there, which brings back the ideas from my first paragraph.
I'd go to the universe in which I picked the right college major
the Jason that meets his wife and son by the bean is not the real Jason we have been following. what I don't get is why the one who was in the car with her thought she would not freak out when he laid the alternate reality shit on her.
proofs it's not the real one?
the moron in the car was just desperate. prolly went through he'll.
our jason does not have any cuts on his face the smoking jason did. there are 3 jasons that we know of that are in Chicago on top of the original imposter jason.
Our jason has cute on his nose
>3
There are hundreds. We see... 6 or 7 by my count in addition to Jason1 and Hason2
No our Jason has a cut on his nose from being falling down the stairs and struggling with Jason 2 in episode 1
I read the book but can't remember if it addresses this.
How does the box materialise in universes where the box wasn't invented? Such as the Jason1 world?
I don't understand the question. Why wouldn't it?
Well isn't the point of the box to shield those inside from literally all external stimuli that may collapse the waveform of the consciousness of the minds inside which have been put into superposition with the drug (i.e. Literal schrodingers box)
So it's not the box that moves universe, it's what's inside, the drug allows their mind to be in a superposition of many states simultaneously, and the box is just protecting them from all external stimuli that may collapse it
Yes. So when you think of a world it collapses the waveform into that world outside. The box doesn't actually move or materialise.
So how did Jason 2 get to a universe where Jason 1 hadn't invented a box?
He didn't get to it. The box doesn't move. The outside does.
If Jason 1 went to the spot where the box is a day before he got kidnapped, what would he find?
A box
Put there by who?
Jason2 entering Jason1's world. He spent months there before the kidnapping thing.
Okay, you know what I meant.
If Jason 1 went there years before he was kidnapped, what would he find?
Nothing. An empty warehouse. The Box is there only after Jason2 uses it to enter this world.
So how does Jason1 knows that he needs to go to that warehouse?
What? I don't understand.
how does he think it will help him to find true love by going to that warehouse? why?
He knows about the warehouse, because that's where he exited after he ran away from the lab. Either I don't understand what you are saying or you are confused about events.
>Was there a box in Jason1's world before Jason2 arrives?
No
>if no, then how does it get there to allow Jason2 to arrive?
It doesn't allow anything. The box is not a spaceship. It creates absolute sensory deprivation, so the serum can put you into superposition, that's it. It's an isolation tank. Everything happens because of the intelligence inside of it thinking and observing.
I'd you have a problem with the box showing up physically instead of just being a door hovering or something just accept that's how it works in that universe.
The biggest repercussions is that they leave the box on all the planets they leave and not to mention all the other people that got lost in the box and all their clones. Eventually governments are going to be researching them on every world.
>The biggest repercussions is that they leave the box on all the planets they leave
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The box leaves with the traveller. It doesn’t stay behind (Jason2 leaving his friend in utopia world).
not to mention all the other people that got lost in the box and all their clones. Eventually governments are going to be researching them on every world.
True, but considering we are talking about infinite worlds it will always be a drop in a pond.
Jason2 went with him and threw him out of the box lol.
>Jason2 went with him and threw him out of the box lol.
Oh forgot that bit
I forgot Amanda existed in the book. I thought she was an original character lol.
its*
>The box leaves with the traveller. It doesn’t stay behind (Jason2 leaving his friend in utopia world).
This is not true. The box stays behind. He left drugs for Amanda to leave. Even if your theory is correct, anyone Jason 2 maroons on another world is actually a traveler so the box would stay for them.
That's a fair point. I don't remember if that was in the book. Same with the highway scene.
Even if the box remains after the person leaves the world it means nothing. It's just a fancy metal box. Probably think it's a prank. It's useless without the drugs. People would just sell it to the junkyard for metal.
Then how does the box materialise there if it only allows what's inside to move universe?!
Who said that? There is no movement man, it's not a tardis. When you enter the serum state you collapse the putside quantum state based in what you are thinking.
Was there a box in Jason1's world before Jason2 arrives?
If no, then how does it get there to allow Jason2 to arrive?
Magic lol,but they call it quantum physics so normies believe it
The box just teleports into the world's in the same spot. Remember one of the world's it made the box begin to sink in the lake from the surface where they spawned in. The whole story makes no sense.
Exactly, Jason 2 makes Jason 1's world come into existence by opening the multiverse. My theory is, there is no such thing as parallel universes. There is only this world. Jason 2 literally opened a satanic portal into hell. Story would have been better if we followed Jason 2.
>Jason 1's world come into existence by opening the multiverse.
The box is there after he "travels" to the world, but the world has existed all along. Why would the box be there before the travel? In the book the multiverse and parallel worlds exist. What you say is cool but it's another story not the one in the book/show.
Also, don't forget there are numerous Jasons who have invented the box. I don't mean splits of Jason2. Other Jasons from their own original worlds. Does each one "open up" a different multiverse? Obviously all the worlds exists.
>If Jason 1 went there years before he was kidnapped, what would he find?
a BOX mother fricker!
What happens if the drug wears off when the two of them are in the box but further apart from each other than the normal width of the interior?
Doesn't happen in the book, so we don't know. Probably both end up in the same box, because physically they are there. The corridor is how your brain interprets superposition, it's not the box extending physically. The author was bombarded with similar questions and he said he has thought of answers about some of them, but the rest is up to the reader.
the box is supposed to act as a wormhole to another world or some stupid pseudoscience. At least that's how Neil Tyrone Tyson says is how you would travel between universes.
The story is it's own thing. Black Science Man or anyone else can claim whatever they want, it has no relation to an original story. The box is a sensory deprivation chamber. It doesn’t create wormholes or anything like that.
That's true, in the book the infinite corridor is explained as a mind trick, not real
Well, I, for one, am shocked at this turn of
events.
How did Jason2 make it so that Jason1 woke up in Jason2's old world (or something very similar)
Because Jason 2 just wishes it like Dorthy. Don't forget Jason 1 and Amanda accidently went back to that exact world. Also Jason 2 went back to twice. Once to drop off Jason 1 and once to grab more drugs off the wall.
The box does just materialise in the TV show because it just opens up to the middle a highway in episode 5.
OP I got something for you
>There are a lot of Jasons in Dark Matter. Do you see any of the Jasons as the real one? Does the fact that one particular Jason narrates the novel help you to sympathize more towards him or to see him as the OG Jason?
>Blake Crouch’s answer: Ah, this is a great question! I think it’s interesting that you ask about the “real” Jason, because the truth is, there’s no one “real” Jason. Each Jason is a version of the same person, but with different experiences, different choices, and different outcomes. The fact that one particular Jason narrates the novel is meant to create a sense of intimacy and immediacy, but it’s not meant to imply that he’s the “real” Jason. Instead, it’s meant to show that each Jason has his own story to tell, and that each story is valid and important.
But if Jason 2 never observed other worlds with a box and drugs, they wouldn't exist.
Says you. The author says otherwise. Who should we trust?
They need to adapt the In Times Like These novels by Nathan Van Coops. Similar premise except it's time travel, a very satisfying and consistent time travel mechanic, about a guy trying to get back to his own time, and running into versions of himself, with lots of good side characters too
Is it acrually good? Female protagonist screams woke garbage nowadays. One can never know. I'm a bug fan of time travel and alternate reality/multiverse books, but good quality ones are hard to fund. Especially modern ones.
It's a male protag
There's 3 novels
Lighthearted but extremely clever and internally consistent
Ah, I was looking at some prequel novella that has a female protag. Ok I'm downloading it based on your recommendation.
The first starts as an obvious homage to Back to the Future but it goes its own way eventually.
The second is the best IMO, would make a great TV series
So far so good.
I love MILFs so much.
ass to ass girl is a good actress she is just way too old for this
>"Jason, this is the progressive universe!"
>goes to a bar, gay couple with hyper gay voices start talking
You just wait until S2 with the Black as the main character. The one we saw wounded in the box.
>ayo so you wuz sayin we finna go to anywhere bruh?
Unironically
How could you get rich with the box? Steal shit from one world and invest it in another?
It's like Counterpart with all the political intrigue taken out and more focus put on vague scifi concepts
Counterpart was such a good show in S1.