I don't know if there are minor differences here and there. Miles' hair is different but his face seems the same. All the characters look pretty much the same as the last game except MJ.
I don't know if there are minor differences here and there. Miles' hair is different but his face seems the same. All the characters look pretty much the same as the last game except MJ.
Someone wanted to frick an intern there and tried too hard by changing the model for MJ
The only one that is somewhat out of the norm, is the lesbian one in Exiles. And the water buffalo. Otherwise, Mary Jane being a hot lady is core to her character considering she's supposed to be THE pretty girl next door and she's based off Ann Margret.
you have no idea
every game now has to be produced by gays/dykes/trannies, and they all have one thing in common, they hate beautiful women all of them without exception and they all put in these woke elements and women will never be able to be hot again
It's insane just how quickly Starfield has been forgotten, even as mid as Fallout 4 was it wasn't dropped this hard. I played a little over an hour before realizing it was pure slop and refunded it
I never had an issue with Bayonetta being straight. In fact I support it.
But LUCA? FRICKING LUCA?!
He's the most annoying character in the entire series. It's like if Anakin Skywalker fricked Jar Jar Binks in the Prequels. Jesus Christ. I'd have more respect for Cereza if she got blacked by Rodin.
The entire narrative surrounding Bayonetta flipped when she got added to Smash Wii U/3DS as DLC. All of a sudden everyone pretended to have always loved her. And since back then they probably only played Bayonetta 2 I'd imagine that's where that narrative really started to take off
>Censoring any depictions of heterosexual romance >Censoring any depictions of sexualized women >Censoring criticism of government policy >Pro war >Pro government regulation >Pro religion (leftism)
Yep. They’re just copying their neocon parents (which ironically is what made them homosexuals). I can’t wait until Gen Alpha comes up and has a backlash to this current Puritanism like older millennials did in the 90s/00/s
She's a normal person so is Pete I think they were going for realism rather than cartoonish hotness but you can't be Red Dead when your fans are all coomers
Grounded take: It's ok for a woman to have a dumpy dumper. I say it's ok, not that it's good, obviously she could work out consistently for health, but if her ass looks like a pancake, that's fine.
MJ's heavy involvements kills any real replayability and will be one of the defining attributes of the next game's commercial failure by comparison to this one.
It's not about "hyper realism" you subhuman shill, they'll get a beautiful woman to mo cap the character and then turn the character into a ugly troony. It's all about destroying beauty and making everything ugly.
She has the kind of appearance that I think would be cute if you knew her in real life, but there's no reason to go for it in a medium where you can make people as attractive as you want.
Cool costumes and I like that they look like real people, this is just a random collection of normies and the chick in the middle is cute.
Name of game?
Pregnant on duty superhero is honestly one of the most unhinged things to come out of all this and it weirds me out that it seems to be one few people have a problem with.
It's not in the realm of male power fantasy, that's why. It's Girl Power being slipped in and the two jar fricking heavily. Men don't want to see women during a period when they're physically vulnerable exposed to danger. Not in a fantasy setting or otherwise. I frown every time I see it in media where it doesn't belong, which is often in male-oriented genres. Just a bizarre fricking choice that needs to go away. Anything that swollen on the human body is a liability in a crime fighting setting and it speaks to how negligent those heroes are. There's a time for private life and a time for patrolling and these situations always act as if there's zero compromise and that's--no human on Earth thinks like that so its a hard sell that someone would reason that they could will away the fricking warning signs that come with handling children in utero. There would be many dead heroines, metahuman or not, if they were operating while pregnant. Like what the frick are you out here trying to prove? Take your stupid ass home and go tend to your growing family.
As a Jessgay it's a blessing that MCU doesn't do Jessica yet. No, I don't consider Spiderverse Jessica to be the same especially when she's an amalgamation of three different characters.
But on the even shittier side, if they'll do Jess normies will b***h why she is not black.
Yeah its not pretty but there are plenty of real plain looking women with faces like that. I don't think it's the best choice for MJ who is supposed to be prettier but isn't some crazy grotesque thing like everyone in this thread is making it out to be for some reason. I at least hope most of the reaction is just hyperbole or else anons here must have so little interactions with real women they don't know that face type is possible, uncommon but not rare.
It’s not that women with faces like that don’t exist, it’s that it isn’t a good fit for MJ who’s traditionally been a very beautiful woman. Also, the face model is actually very beautiful and yet they purposefully chose to alter the face heavily.
I still don't understand why they would change either of their models. MJ is more subtle, but Pete's a totally different guy. Is this the fruit of high fidelity face scanning? Realism was a mistake. I want to go back.
It's the same person's face being used for MJ in both games, but something sure is fricking different, and it's not a higher quality model. In the first game she was cute, and didn't have a face like a brick.
Apparently because the newer face model is closer structurally to Yuri Lowenthal, so the motion capture data is easier to map.
Really the issue with the new face model is
>it was poorly implemented into the "remastered" first game, resulting in emotional moments not looking nearly as expressive >the skin texture is too "smooth" and perfect which makes him look younger. Which I mean some people can still have babyface but they should've just gone for a rougher face texture to help make him look less like a teenager.
For what it's worth, the face looked a bit better in the Miles Morales game, which it was designed for instead of sloppily implemented over a pre-existing model and animations
>Insomniac replaced actor John Bubniak, who had provided the motion capture performance for the first version of the game, with a new facial model. The company found that actor Ben Jordan was a better match for Lowenthal's facial capture, resulting in better facial animation.
>Asked about the recast, which was met with a certain degree of hostility by some fans, Lowenthal said he was 'all in' as the change was set to enhance his performance.
>"The performance was the same for me. I got over it as soon as they said 'Hey, we wanna make this change so that the facial animation is better.' I said 'I'm all in!' I don't care if he looks like a goblin, if my performance is better, then I'm in," he told ComicBook.com ahead of the sequel's debut.
>"I'm kind of tired of talking about it to be honest, because I think everything that needs to be said has been said," he continued.
Wait, this isnt his aunt?
Lmao, Also why did i see like 3 or 4 different Peters, isnt there only 2 games?
No idea whats going on in this version, why is MJ twice Peters age? Isnt he still in school?
We need to exorcise females from creative roles. Imagine being jealous that your own creation would get more male attention than you, so you purposely sabotage them and make them ugly.
Women are fricked in the head. Thank GOD for modders
Yeah I feel bad for that girl getting dunked on when I'm sure she had nothing to do with changing the look of MJ in the game. But man it bothered me and I never got over it during the game.
>I have a feeling this is some sort of petty payback for the whole ugly male protagonist of the 80's and 90's in movies
I could understand, but then just make both of them ugly. Since nerds are the biggest target demographic, might as well appeal to them more
I hate to break it to you anon, but face scanning is not the end of the design process
They completely changed Peter Parkers face in the first game ffs
yes when they got another actor likeness, they are literally using a person likeness here, there might be stylization but no one is changing the likeness from the hired person to a random writer because they want to bone her and decide to steal her face to show that, thats fricking bonkers to even suggest
you people live in simpland where pussy is the end all of all human interactions ffs
7 months ago
Anonymous
>you people live in simpland where pussy is the end all of all human interactions ffs
how do you think women have been making to positions of power where they can sink billion dollar franchises
7 months ago
Anonymous
*making it
7 months ago
Anonymous
you have eyes don't you, I couldn't give a shit about the logistics of why it happened, the artist clearly used her face to design her instead of using the face scanned model
7 months ago
Anonymous
grab the actor likeness and put it over the other, the features match the mj face is just way more detailed and looks ugly as sin due to that
the writer face has almosot no similar points to the model she just has a big jaw
7 months ago
Anonymous
c**t, did you even read what I said?
7 months ago
Anonymous
face it tiger, you need glasses.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Nah. That's not how game development works. She's a fricking intern, she has no power. Stephanie Tyler Jones is the face model, and fricking Laura Bailey is the VA doing the actual lip moving, there is no universe where the face is based on some intern. MJ and Stephanie have the same eyes with large irises. The same nose , the same freckles on their face in the same position even on their nose lol. The same lips, the same face shape and chin. MJ even shares the same teeth right down the slightly longer left- middle incisor.
7 months ago
Anonymous
If you think shit is taken straight from face scans to finished product and nothing else, then you have no knowledge about game development and have no business talking shit
7 months ago
Anonymous
They've said that it's the same actress and they have 0 reason to lie. Why would they use a random intern writer who never even went in to appear in person as the face of this character and then pay another actress to be her? If you think about it for longer than 5 seconds it makes no sense. The devs say it's not the intern, the intern says it's not her, and the actress says she is the face too.
7 months ago
Anonymous
You are trying to understand why they would do it
I am telling you, you have fricking eyes
7 months ago
Anonymous
Do you?
7 months ago
Anonymous
no anon you see the artist then went over it and added all the features of this intern i decided is destroying our gaming culture because pussy is bad and they are trying to take away our culture from us
7 months ago
Anonymous
Probably they thought it would be funny or they had a crush on the intern. Jordan White allowed Heather Antos to create her self insert Gwenpool because she was his work wife assistant and he is too much of a fat simp to tell her no.
are you sure about that
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and I remember people saying she looked ugly back then, by comparison she actually looks normal
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I have a feeling this is some sort of petty payback for the whole ugly male protagonist of the 80's and 90's in movies
She denies it now but it's only because she got caught. There is no way that coincidentally the designers made MJ look exactly like the writing intern when they were meant to be designing a girl that looks like this.
Do you?
7 months ago
Anonymous
dumb sjw homosexual
7 months ago
Anonymous
Even in these pictures, the real girl is cute, but Mary Jane is ugly.
7 months ago
Anonymous
the real person has imperfections that make them look like a living thing, the model has a bunch of lines and textures that make every piece of her face stand out unnaturaly, look at the eyes and the lines surrounding them and its easy to notice theres something wrong there
its clearly the same person tho, the model is just shit
7 months ago
Anonymous
>the real person has imperfections that make them look like a living thing
And yet, the word "imperfection" is a much better description for the CGI thing.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I think mockery would be a better term
7 months ago
Anonymous
this happens all the time with face rigs
either the technology sucks and leads to uncanny valley, making the actress look ugly or they just make the character look more ugly
look at Horizon's and Control's original actresses
7 months ago
Anonymous
are you face blind? do you have trouble recognizing facial features or what feeling someone face portrays? You keep saying that we have eyes but you dont seem able to see that she looks nothing like the intern and looks everything like the actual fricking actor, just uglier.
no anon you see the artist then went over it and added all the features of this intern i decided is destroying our gaming culture because pussy is bad and they are trying to take away our culture from us
the only eye you seem to be using is the eye of your butthole when your daddy bangs you, how can you not see the likeness of the actress
face it tiger, you need glasses.
you done?
did you work on this travesty or some shit?
7 months ago
Anonymous
Listen, if you want to engage in pointless victimhood, conspiracy theories, and confirmation bias, that's fine by me, but don't complain because others aren't broken like you.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I never said any of that shit, you did
All I said was it looks like this person and not that one, stop getting so defensive like you have some personal stake in this
here's a character that there's no mistaking who was face scanned for comparison
7 months ago
Anonymous
no i said that, not that guy, you seem very convinced you are arguing with one person when theres about 3 or 4 people mocking your inability of recognizing that the intern looks nothing like the model .
7 months ago
Anonymous
Projecting?
I know it wasn't one person, but being the hivemind that Cinemaphile is, it's easier to just reply to all of you at once
7 months ago
Anonymous
She even has the same mouth shape with the way one lip is slightly raised over the other when she smiles
7 months ago
Anonymous
She's a qt =^3^=
7 months ago
Anonymous
are you face blind? do you have trouble recognizing facial features or what feeling someone face portrays? You keep saying that we have eyes but you dont seem able to see that she looks nothing like the intern and looks everything like the actual fricking actor, just uglier.
7 months ago
Anonymous
the only eye you seem to be using is the eye of your butthole when your daddy bangs you, how can you not see the likeness of the actress
7 months ago
Anonymous
God I'm calling it already >inb4 le "I was only pretending to be moronic"
Don't fall for ignorant bait, anons. Discussion should be had with people that can put more effort into their arguments that aren't the same three phrases they spouted before
7 months ago
Anonymous
this little homosexual lives in a fantasy world where everything has to be some big conspiracy , anyone with a set of eyes can see that the intern isnt similar to the actual model but somehow
"oh no the artist saw one look at the puss on that one intern and decided that vavavooom imma throwing out the actual actor likeness we hired and making her as close as possible to the intern that will get me some of that puss, gang gang "
this kind of shit is why china is beating the shit out of us, all the kids are moronic nowadays and need narratives where they see through the hidden meanings
to feel smart
If true that means it was some skinny simp frick who made it like her calling it "the most beautiful design i could think of" in an attempt to frick her
every time a shitty game releases people just go down a list of everyone who worked on it until they find an ugly b***h who sort of looks similar and then that's the narrative they run with for the next 10 years
except for the fact these people usually don’t hide it all.
you could merely look up their twitter history and find out the truth easily.
these people do not hide their actions at all.
Idk why some people will try to argue that it's good for her to look more like the average woman when MJ was always way above average in terms of beauty.
I checked after asking and jesus, I'd have thought the price would have dipped at least a little after a month or so. Even in the UK it's a full £70. How the frick does this happen when a brand new game was, at most, like £45 just a few years ago??
Also I played Spider-Man 3 on the Wii, does that count?
This is honestly the wildest part to me, they put all this money, time and hype behind a more moronic WoS with somehow worse pacing and characters.
And the gameplay is only better because they had a decent base game to build on so it didnt feel as raw, WoS combat still feels better in the end despite being done in under 18 months
literally playing web of shadows right now and it plays like shit compared to the modern games. people saying web of shadows is better then ps4 are pure contrarians
This is honestly the wildest part to me, they put all this money, time and hype behind a more moronic WoS with somehow worse pacing and characters.
And the gameplay is only better because they had a decent base game to build on so it didnt feel as raw, WoS combat still feels better in the end despite being done in under 18 months
literally playing web of shadows right now and it plays like shit compared to the modern games. people saying web of shadows is better then ps4 are pure contrarians
iirc in web of shadows you could even fight enemies on building walls. if that's true then a decade old game had more "spiderman" mechanics than the last 3
The mechanics for that were shit and anything that wasn't fighting enemies on the ground was a slog to go through. Just cause it exists doesn't automatically make it good
I can't believe we live in a time where we got a "Symbiote takes over New York where Venom isn't allowed to be fun" plot twice now and Web of Shadows is the game which did it better. Also Black Cat mogs MJ in every universe
They wanted to be as faithful to the Disney movies that came out as they could and got his model to look more like Tom Holland who plays the character in those. From a marketing perspective, you can understand the possible decision of opting to go for the movie version of the character as audiences will already be familiar and more likely attached to him from there.
>unlock a suit after finishing her and Cletus Kasady's sidequest chain >you get an ugly knock-off Wraith suit instead of a Spider-Cop outfit because of the journoswine whining about "copaganda" years back
Fricking coward devs.
I haven't played the game but I heard they really toned down police presence in general, when Spidey working with the NYPD and fighting the Sinister Six alongside them was a notable part of the first game
Yeah, they show up exactly once (while you're chasing the Lizard as opposed to fighting Kraven's hunters, the Symbiotes, or any of the random crimes) and it's so Spider-Man can yell "YOU'RE NOT HELPING". He has more interactions with firefighters for frick's sake.
Yeah Spider-Man swinging over to talk to some fricking firefighters and help them out was super jarring. I didn't like how it portrays how Peter has a negative relationship with law enforcement but Miles, for SOME fricking reason, doesn't. He just doesn't. Peter has to finesse his way around a crime scene to gather evidence. Miles can plop down and stomp all over an investigation so he can Batman all the information up and swing away to a marker in the city. It only happened once in the game but it was another example of favoritism. The universe is literally bending to Miles' will to accept him as Spider-Man.
>No concern for budget or practicality afforded by being a videogame >Literally unlimited possibilities >Do a costume straight out of The CW
Whoever concept arted this should never work again.
That's the problem, women. A woman is an ugly creature, inside and out, a creature with a congenital defect. Peter always suffers from this, not because of the Goblin or anyone else. Women who cannot simply defend themselves, even Felicia. There is a solution, Peter needs a shota. spider boy, if at this moment you are spitting bile, then I can congratulate you, you are a cuckold and a feminist, your fate is to always whine about the fact that spider-man is humiliated. come on troony, write about pedophilia, you are a pathetic parody of a person. Relationships between men and handsome boys were favored in all great civilizations: from Ancient Egypt and Persia to Rome.
I hate how much the game rushes to get to Venom. Like, the pacing is fine until Peter gets the symbiote, and then it rushes through that so we can get Venom. Peter only has the suit for like a few days and it changes him? If it was paced well and a better written story, he should have had the symbiote for at least a month, and then he's telling Harry to take more pills. Not after a few days.
it feels like its missing a whole chapter where peter is now aware the symbiote is fricking him up and fighting it for control, where he would be over violent to someone like shocker
>missing a whole chapter where peter is now aware the symbiote is fricking him up and fighting it for control, where he would be over violent to someone like shocker
Unfortunately we for some reason needed Miles to be the one to help Peter take it off compared to it being a sole Peter arc like it should have been.
It's so weird. In every single other Spider-Man story with the symbiote, Peter's always been the one who can finally throw the symbiote off by himself. But because Miles is in this game and he's just oh-so-important and special, instead we get the first ever time where Peter's not strong enough to get rid of the black suit himself.
>we get the first ever time where Peter's not strong enough to get rid of the black suit himself.
Because Miles is the heckin bestest! That's also why he was able to redeem a villain despite not having a lot of experience compared to Peter! You gotta love the Miles wank!
You're a fricking moron complaining about a story when you read the cliffnotes that had coffee stains on them.
The reason the objectives are different is because you learn from the Peter fight that the only way to get it off is for someone to help you see through the manipulated feelings and frustrations the symbiote is using to control and isolate you.
The reason MJ's fight is one giant "woman moment" as you dumbass homosexuals call it is because those are the minor and suppressed thoughts the symbiote is bringing up to make MJ fight Peter.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>the only way to get it off is for someone to help you see through the manipulated feelings and frustrations the symbiote is using to control and isolate you.
Something that has never happened in any other Spider-Man telling of the symbiote
7 months ago
Anonymous
That's your only argument against it because now you can't say it's just them making Peter a b***h.
Keep crying culture war Black person.
7 months ago
Anonymous
It is them making Peter a b***h. Peter doesn't do a lot in the story without Miles. I know you Milesgays are hopeless shills, but there's no reason for Miles to be at every event happening in the game. Especially for an emotional arc for Peter like taking off the black suit. It's not culture war bs to point out that they keep shoving this character down our throats and telling us how great Miles is. Suck my dick, homosexual.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I never mentioned Miles once you disingenuous moron. I was pointing out that you were clearly ignoring that working with someone else is the only way to fight off the symbiote in this version of the story. It doesn't make Peter a b***h just because they made a change you pretend not to like just to rile people up on the internet.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>they made a change you pretend not to like just to rile people up on the internet.
Lifelong Spider-Man fan and it's a bad change. I know you feel you need to white knight this game, but it's pathetic to go this far. Miles is fine in Spider-Verse, but here it's so obvious frickin wank. >Durrr I never mentioned Miles
You know damn well you and I were talking about the same moment. Go argue in bad faith somewhere else.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I want to frick Venom.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>You don't understand, it's not shitty writing because there's setup!
Shitty writing can be shitty writing even if it has qualities that good writing does too.
Execution is what matters.
7 months ago
Anonymous
It can be shitty but you Black folk wouldn't know because from what I've seen half of you don't know what you're talking about.
I'm sick of you homosexuals coming on here to complain about things you haven't read and just assuming you're right. I get it, it's a next generation release and not everyone has the cash to get a ps5 and the game. But at the very least watch a playthrough before you complain about story shit.
The reason for that objective marker that gets everyone boiling in these threads being worded like that is very clear and makes sense if you have context and aren't just being baited into a kneejerk reaction.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>But at the very least watch a playthrough before you complain about story shit.
I literally played the game to completion and got the platinum trophy. The Miles wank is too much and Peter not taking off the suit himself is bullshit. Frick you.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>hurr durr i did just believe me bro i know everything in the story firsthand and didnt just absorb the shitposts from threads to form my own imaginary story in my head where mean ol miles oppresses the white man at every turn
Yeah right, and Cinemaphile likes video games.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I got the game on launch and went through it all in a weekend, but sure, don't believe me since you want to be a homosexual about it.
7 months ago
Anonymous
If you want to find a group of people who'll pretend the game is good, I suggest you leave Cinemaphile and find an echo-chamber to chat in. Maybe resetera?
7 months ago
Anonymous
Do you have a browser extension that jumbles posts into something completely different or can you just not read properly?
7 months ago
Anonymous
>because you learn from the Peter fight that the only way to get it off is for someone to help you see through the manipulated feelings and frustrations the symbiote is using to control and isolate you.
You mean getting punched by Miles Morales with a Venom Blast while also ringing the bell long enough to make the symbiote weak?
7 months ago
Anonymous
That doesnt actually address the post at all, wtf. There's no identifiable reason for the distinction, given the information you presented, other than for the purpose of hating on Peter.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Miles is trying to remove the suit from Peter. Only able to do it by the combination of talking to him and weakening it via sound.
Peter, knowing that the mental hold is important knows he has to help MJ remove it herself.
That's why they're worded differently.
7 months ago
Anonymous
homie he's still helping her remove the suit. Adding "herself" is still purely a vindictive choice.
wow you are so cool Miles... you can do things I could NEVER do despite you being a rookie and me being active for a decade... and doing those things in various stories for decades before... you should be the only real Spider-Man™ because you're so much better than me just like MJ said... I should've never been Spider-Man because of how stupid and incompetent I am... I wish I had a Gwen to give you because you deserve everything I have and invented so much more... I'll have to settle for giving you Silk and retiring at 26 so you can take over fully because you're so competent...
I could forgive a lot of the weird and terrible things they did with MJ if they didn't make her such an insufferable c**t and have the story bend over backwards to justify her terrible behaviour the whole way through
Like any of you incels whining here will ever touch a woman, period. Sad little misogynists fapping to porn and thinking it’s real life, you deserve your small lives of pathetic desperation.
I hate stealth sections shoved into games. They're always dogshit because you can't properly put in meaningful stealth gameplay that's only going to be used twice. It leads to shit like this where you can easily break it and turn it into a joke.
Peter and Harry act really gay as frick in the game. Which lets me know the writers are either gays are primarily women because they don't know how to write antagonistic men. They don't know how to write violence and deliver in an impactful manner that grips audiences. They were handed Venom on a platter and they did relatively little to elevate him. Venom had to be cool on his own--he got zero fricking help from the writing team on that end. Harry was a total pussy, the writing was anemic and stunted and everything got rushed. MJ never should have been involved as heavily as she was. That was their team's first and most undeniable frick-up.
To this day I'm trying to understand why people think she's ugly. Are my standards that low? Or are people moronic? The majority of complaints are on here and Twitter so I'm leaning towards the latter
>She has to compete with 10's like Tifa and Cammy....so she's ugly by comparison in the vidya world.
In fairness you compared to two fictional girls that never had face models; you should at least mention RE 4 Remakes Ashly as she had as face model that's even close to the actual girl they used.
the spidey games might be the most sexist and racist video games i know
i have never seen a protagonist being treated so badly before.
you can really tell that they hate peter for being a white guy
The thing that makes me mad is that she acts as if doing this is better than working for JJJ or writing another book. THEN YOU SEE HER UPLOAD HER PODCAST RIGHT AS SHE FINISHES RECORDING, NO EDITING, RAW AUDIO.
b***h NO ONE WILL TUNE INTO THAT EVERY WEEK.
Honestly I like the Venom redemption he did, it was nice development for Eddie and Venom. I just fricking hate everything else. The wings, the perfectly formed axe with glowing energy blades that he makes and wields instead of using his goo to form a blade, the King in Black stuff, turning red and growing extra arms. All the fricking KNULL SHIT!
It's all so tiresome.
I don't think she's ugly but the first time I saw her, I was like Aunt May looks great. This was not a good model for a Mary Jane. When you see her with Peter, she looks way older than him.
Curious as to why Insomniac didn't give the classic black suit costume the same logo as the game one. Using these action figures as a reference, the game one uses the symbol on the left, and the classic suit uses the one on the right, which I think looks worse. But it also makes no sense since in Secret Wars #8 and all of the ASM issues where he has that suit on, it looks like the left. I'm curious about the decision to not have the same logo used.
Change the symbol to a less ugly one, and then pick the left colors. I don't like how the right's shading looks in game. Should have been blue highlights or not even bothered.
Fair. I think they should have added a version of it with just the blue highlights as a reference to the classic comic highlights, I don't even remember what the fourth option for the classic suit is.
Mary Jane shitting on Peter during the fight for minutes on end completely undercuts the cool factor of Scream. It's the "that part" of boss fights. Have to play it on mute and watch the stupid fricking AI kite around and do this bizarre dance of running from you so the game can get all of its hero-shitting dialogue out. So that the game is certain you've heard the "argument" its presenting as the titular hero is torn down by a whiny nagging c**t who never apologizes or takes back the shit she says.
>I had to work for Jonah and do things I didn't like!!
You turned in one fricking assignment on Spider-Man and shit your bed. Peter has been doing that for close to a decade, watching his heroic efforts and selfless virtue continuously marginalized just so he can have money to put food on the table. Living with the negative constant emotional and mental headspace of having to be positive as your boss shits your neck even though you're the only person able to provide him with what he needs. This just sets up Mary Jane to be a pussy who couldn't handle it. Her book sold like shit so she quits. She turns in one article and then quits. But no, keep blaming Peter for putting others first. People (women) writing comic book characters who are incapable of getting in their mindset make me fricking sick. This bullshit never would've made it in a game if Spider-Man was in the hands of a Japanese developer or something.
I miss the MJ who acted as Peter's rock, giving him not only perspective but reminding him to have fun and not spiral into his usual maudlin, guilt-ridden self. Why the hell does every writer insist on writing MJ as if Peter being a hero is a personal attack on her?
>Why the hell does every writer insist on writing MJ as if Peter being a hero is a personal attack on her?
Several reasons: >with Brand New Day, that's the in-universe reason why MJ broke up with Peter aside from the whole "sold their marriage to the devil for the life of some constantly near-death old biddy" thing >adaptation writers LOVE pulling from modern comics, as opposed to pulling from the classic comics that fans actually enjoy >most writers are hacky enough to think that any sort of relationship drama = good drama, regardless of how tacky and unpleasant it actually is
>I miss the MJ who acted as Peter's rock, giving him not only perspective but reminding him to have fun and not spiral into his usual maudlin, guilt-ridden self
The greatest love interests embody these attributes because these are what men--hell, anyone--would want in a romantic partner. No one benefits from strife between the two characters. Or making Mary Jane a boring ugly b***h.
It's funny how the Scream/MJ fight was supposed to show the struggles of a stronk wahman and the outcome of this fight was her calling J.J. to say that she quits her job while Peter should be like "You can't handle J.J.? b***h I've been getting our money from him for ages, lmao so stronk you are, Jackpot..."
The living costume is not a shonen manga power-up that makes you stronger and angrier, nor is it a metaphor for drug addiction ruining your life. No I don't care about modern retcons >But every adaptation since the 90's cartoon does that
And all of them have shitty, unsatisfying arcs involving the living costume or Venom. >Not muh
Exactly. Do it right or don't do it at all and especially frick that moron at Insomniac for saying they couldn't add it as an unlockable for the first game because "it's one of the best Spider-Man stories" with how blatantly he didn't read anything involving it
Not every version MJ is a hot bombshell. Deal with it.
Cope
You're right. Only the canon version is.
But she was in the previous game.
Did all the game models change or was it just MJ's?
I don't know if there are minor differences here and there. Miles' hair is different but his face seems the same. All the characters look pretty much the same as the last game except MJ.
Someone wanted to frick an intern there and tried too hard by changing the model for MJ
>ugly outside and inside
fitting
She looked better in Spider-Man 1...
No.
Any creative team incapable of making MJ a smokin' hot bombshell need to be shamed and harassed.
The only one that is somewhat out of the norm, is the lesbian one in Exiles. And the water buffalo. Otherwise, Mary Jane being a hot lady is core to her character considering she's supposed to be THE pretty girl next door and she's based off Ann Margret.
What other versions aren't?
Awfully bigoted of you to not think she is hot
If MJ aint hot I aint buying your shit. I wont even pirate your garbage.
Her face is longer than a Black folk criminal record
Frick you mods pieces of shit have a nice day
you are not a spider-man fan
>t-the era of beauty is over! I-im a real woman!
The acceptance era cost us more then we realize.
True, the Holland movies proved that.
Face it MJ, you hit the wall
you have no idea
every game now has to be produced by gays/dykes/trannies, and they all have one thing in common, they hate beautiful women all of them without exception and they all put in these woke elements and women will never be able to be hot again
isn't right a mod?
Ofc it is. It’s a meme on Cinemaphile and Twitter to pretend that Bethesda games are good because it pisses off autists who can’t detect sarcasm.
It's insane just how quickly Starfield has been forgotten, even as mid as Fallout 4 was it wasn't dropped this hard. I played a little over an hour before realizing it was pure slop and refunded it
Bayonetta is a gay icon national treasure
lol
cute
Madonna is a gay icon and im 99% sure she's straight. being an icon for the gays doesn't mean that person they idolizing is gay kek
That’s moronic. You’re moronic.
Seethe?
I never had an issue with Bayonetta being straight. In fact I support it.
But LUCA? FRICKING LUCA?!
He's the most annoying character in the entire series. It's like if Anakin Skywalker fricked Jar Jar Binks in the Prequels. Jesus Christ. I'd have more respect for Cereza if she got blacked by Rodin.
Did you think she thought Luka was moronic nobody in the first game? Rewatch the cutscenes cuz they clearly set them up
THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
What year did this happen because I swear to god progressives were still seething about Bayonetta in 2016
bayonetta 2
plus AGP "transbians" started taking over every feminist space
I remember Anita had a problem with Bayo
The entire narrative surrounding Bayonetta flipped when she got added to Smash Wii U/3DS as DLC. All of a sudden everyone pretended to have always loved her. And since back then they probably only played Bayonetta 2 I'd imagine that's where that narrative really started to take off
>Bayonetta is a gay icon national treasure
Gays are the new conservatives.
>Censoring any depictions of heterosexual romance
>Censoring any depictions of sexualized women
>Censoring criticism of government policy
>Pro war
>Pro government regulation
>Pro religion (leftism)
Yep. They’re just copying their neocon parents (which ironically is what made them homosexuals). I can’t wait until Gen Alpha comes up and has a backlash to this current Puritanism like older millennials did in the 90s/00/s
The next Hitler will come from Gen Alpha, in response to teachers grooming and trooning out kids.
Posting pics of yourself won’t change the fact you’re just a gay neocon
>no u
She's a normal person so is Pete I think they were going for realism rather than cartoonish hotness but you can't be Red Dead when your fans are all coomers
Capcom goes for realism and also has the characters look attractive. You can do both.
Grounded take: It's ok for a woman to have a dumpy dumper. I say it's ok, not that it's good, obviously she could work out consistently for health, but if her ass looks like a pancake, that's fine.
Only when she was Scream
The fact that her boss fight was one big woman moment killed whatever appeal she might have had.
MJ's heavy involvements kills any real replayability and will be one of the defining attributes of the next game's commercial failure by comparison to this one.
I agree.
you have such shitty taste.
I think her contact with Scream could lead MJ to become a Spider-Woman, just like in the animated series "Ultimate Spider-Man".
WE DEMAND JACKPOTS
Holy shit, what game is this? And why is the Asian guy the only one who isn’t hideous
I'm not certain but I think it's Forspoken.
>Asians are already so hideous you asume their ugly face is normal.
What is the game trying to tell us?
This isn't even about Woke forced diversity shit. Games nowadays that go for hyper realistic graphics dive headfirst into the uncanny valley.
Characters in Capcom games still look fine for the most part. It’s all on the developers.
Thats because Capcom games tend to be more stylized.
Not Resident Evil nor Devil May Cry.
It's not about "hyper realism" you subhuman shill, they'll get a beautiful woman to mo cap the character and then turn the character into a ugly troony. It's all about destroying beauty and making everything ugly.
>Average day in America.
Ah yes the young male fantasy of waking up in a strange land to be greeted by "lower than mid" females.
That looks like the kind of isekai where you're really motivated to go home, no sidetracking
Cinemaphile confession: I think that beaver face b***h is cute.
the white one is kinda cute if thats the beaver one
She has the kind of appearance that I think would be cute if you knew her in real life, but there's no reason to go for it in a medium where you can make people as attractive as you want.
women should be mad at this intead of defending it, I don't think I've ever seen women that ugly
Yeah, they won. My eyes are averted.
Cool costumes and I like that they look like real people, this is just a random collection of normies and the chick in the middle is cute.
Name of game?
Forspoken
Reminds me of Shallow Hal
>Wake up, things have gotten worse.
Here is the first girl you look at in the webm's concept art btw.
that's not jackpot material, chud
That's a game I could be interested in.
> What you see
> What they see
Picrel
I JUST POSTED SHIT WITH MY FREAKIN' MIND
who the frick is this bug-eyed black woman that keeps showing up in vidya?
Debra Wilson
She was on MADtv
She’s been voice acting for a long time but they insist on face scanning her now
>POV you wake up in hell
This isn't even that weird to me
It's the fricking awful tumblr writing and dialogue that kills this piece of shit game
what game is it? i thought it was that upcoming Fable game...
Forspoken
WAKE UP SOLDIER WE GOT A CHAOS TO BEAT
Could anyone ever imagine that Marvel would have films and games being made by Sony and Disney and that they would be pure trash, woke garbage?
Pregnant on duty superhero is honestly one of the most unhinged things to come out of all this and it weirds me out that it seems to be one few people have a problem with.
It's not in the realm of male power fantasy, that's why. It's Girl Power being slipped in and the two jar fricking heavily. Men don't want to see women during a period when they're physically vulnerable exposed to danger. Not in a fantasy setting or otherwise. I frown every time I see it in media where it doesn't belong, which is often in male-oriented genres. Just a bizarre fricking choice that needs to go away. Anything that swollen on the human body is a liability in a crime fighting setting and it speaks to how negligent those heroes are. There's a time for private life and a time for patrolling and these situations always act as if there's zero compromise and that's--no human on Earth thinks like that so its a hard sell that someone would reason that they could will away the fricking warning signs that come with handling children in utero. There would be many dead heroines, metahuman or not, if they were operating while pregnant. Like what the frick are you out here trying to prove? Take your stupid ass home and go tend to your growing family.
As a Jessgay it's a blessing that MCU doesn't do Jessica yet. No, I don't consider Spiderverse Jessica to be the same especially when she's an amalgamation of three different characters.
But on the even shittier side, if they'll do Jess normies will b***h why she is not black.
I genuinely love how much seethe MJ generates from wokies whenever she’s posted. They know she’s a laughing stock.
>STOP POSTING HER CHUD!
she looks like a granny
I hope Peter doesn't frick her too hard or she might break her spine
Maybe they'll release a cope DLC saying she was actually Anna Watson, but uglier?
I breathe older women x younger men but not like this. Not like this.....
Is this edited? it looks real bad.
This one on the other hand doesn't look as bad. Not super pretty but not ugly either.
That chin though.
Yeah its not pretty but there are plenty of real plain looking women with faces like that. I don't think it's the best choice for MJ who is supposed to be prettier but isn't some crazy grotesque thing like everyone in this thread is making it out to be for some reason. I at least hope most of the reaction is just hyperbole or else anons here must have so little interactions with real women they don't know that face type is possible, uncommon but not rare.
It’s not that women with faces like that don’t exist, it’s that it isn’t a good fit for MJ who’s traditionally been a very beautiful woman. Also, the face model is actually very beautiful and yet they purposefully chose to alter the face heavily.
they literally look like mother and son
Sold it for me
They really do. MJ looks about 18 years older than Peter.
She's so disturbingly ugly
ENTER THE CHINVERSE
>JoJo
missed the chance to say:
>JawJaw
Dubs confirm. The fact these homosexuals want people to pay 880 dollars plus tip for this crap is mind boggling.
I still don't understand why they would change either of their models. MJ is more subtle, but Pete's a totally different guy. Is this the fruit of high fidelity face scanning? Realism was a mistake. I want to go back.
It's the same person's face being used for MJ in both games, but something sure is fricking different, and it's not a higher quality model. In the first game she was cute, and didn't have a face like a brick.
What a fricking downgrade holy shit
>mj looks 40
>peter looks 14
What did Sony mean by this?
Huh. Maybe Sony is into shota
It's awful isn't it?
why'd they change Peter again?
Apparently because the newer face model is closer structurally to Yuri Lowenthal, so the motion capture data is easier to map.
Really the issue with the new face model is
>it was poorly implemented into the "remastered" first game, resulting in emotional moments not looking nearly as expressive
>the skin texture is too "smooth" and perfect which makes him look younger. Which I mean some people can still have babyface but they should've just gone for a rougher face texture to help make him look less like a teenager.
For what it's worth, the face looked a bit better in the Miles Morales game, which it was designed for instead of sloppily implemented over a pre-existing model and animations
he still looks like a gay twink
who was the new face model?
Some guy named Ben Jordan. Ironically I think if they'd copied his IRL hairstyles people would've been far less put-off by the redesign.
Previous face model was John Bubniak.
https://www.unilad.com/film-and-tv/marvel/spider-man-video-games-face-change-yuri-lowenthal-804694-20230923
>Insomniac replaced actor John Bubniak, who had provided the motion capture performance for the first version of the game, with a new facial model. The company found that actor Ben Jordan was a better match for Lowenthal's facial capture, resulting in better facial animation.
>Asked about the recast, which was met with a certain degree of hostility by some fans, Lowenthal said he was 'all in' as the change was set to enhance his performance.
>"The performance was the same for me. I got over it as soon as they said 'Hey, we wanna make this change so that the facial animation is better.' I said 'I'm all in!' I don't care if he looks like a goblin, if my performance is better, then I'm in," he told ComicBook.com ahead of the sequel's debut.
>"I'm kind of tired of talking about it to be honest, because I think everything that needs to be said has been said," he continued.
left one needed to be changed, one of spider-man's powers is an eternal norwood 0
Not sure if it's the lipstick or the dead soulless eyes on the one on the right that really freaks me out the most.
Wait, this isnt his aunt?
Lmao, Also why did i see like 3 or 4 different Peters, isnt there only 2 games?
No idea whats going on in this version, why is MJ twice Peters age? Isnt he still in school?
>one of the most famous red heads in all media
>give her the skull pheno-type of an anglo-norman dog
>imaginemyshock.gif
Oppressing an entire ethnic group isn't enough for these mutts, they have to culturally genocide them too.
Am a commie. I just like watching bad media fail.
indeed on tvtropes one of them removed the critic about her chara on the game page.
Someone post the side-by-side with the woman she's a self-insert of.
OP is spamming
We need to exorcise females from creative roles. Imagine being jealous that your own creation would get more male attention than you, so you purposely sabotage them and make them ugly.
Women are fricked in the head. Thank GOD for modders
I can't believe it's not a troony
Are you Jack Pot?
>face it tiger you failed the scratch and sniff
Self Insert
why do they always do this?
The female species view fictional characters as competition.
Yeah I know right?
the want the attention they never got from their parents
Ugly, but still proven false.
Yeah I feel bad for that girl getting dunked on when I'm sure she had nothing to do with changing the look of MJ in the game. But man it bothered me and I never got over it during the game.
please provide proof.
The scan is weird but its very definitely the actress the devs said it was.
Maybe we'll believe it when they FIX THIS DAMN SCANNER!
Well she doesn't look bad in those pictures. Why's she so ugly in Spider-Man 2?
because they make it worse on purpose, duh.
I'd be very mad if I was her. She's pretty.
Die screaming.
Then someone botched the face model bigtime.
are you sure about that
and I remember people saying she looked ugly back then, by comparison she actually looks normal
I have a feeling this is some sort of petty payback for the whole ugly male protagonist of the 80's and 90's in movies
>I have a feeling this is some sort of petty payback for the whole ugly male protagonist of the 80's and 90's in movies
I could understand, but then just make both of them ugly. Since nerds are the biggest target demographic, might as well appeal to them more
They may have scanned her for animations, but it quite obviously looks like they modelled the face on the other woman
It’s a man / troony.
Really? I feel bad now... She's not even that ugly
It wasn't debunked.
IIRC the going theory is that a dude higher up in the team was trying to get into her pants, not that it was her fault.
theres a literal face model that recorded all of those animations, it aint her chief, shes just a random junior writer
people are just horny for another reason they can shit on this when the actual reason it looks bad its uncanny valley and nothing else
I hate to break it to you anon, but face scanning is not the end of the design process
They completely changed Peter Parkers face in the first game ffs
yes when they got another actor likeness, they are literally using a person likeness here, there might be stylization but no one is changing the likeness from the hired person to a random writer because they want to bone her and decide to steal her face to show that, thats fricking bonkers to even suggest
you people live in simpland where pussy is the end all of all human interactions ffs
>you people live in simpland where pussy is the end all of all human interactions ffs
how do you think women have been making to positions of power where they can sink billion dollar franchises
*making it
you have eyes don't you, I couldn't give a shit about the logistics of why it happened, the artist clearly used her face to design her instead of using the face scanned model
grab the actor likeness and put it over the other, the features match the mj face is just way more detailed and looks ugly as sin due to that
the writer face has almosot no similar points to the model she just has a big jaw
c**t, did you even read what I said?
face it tiger, you need glasses.
Nah. That's not how game development works. She's a fricking intern, she has no power. Stephanie Tyler Jones is the face model, and fricking Laura Bailey is the VA doing the actual lip moving, there is no universe where the face is based on some intern. MJ and Stephanie have the same eyes with large irises. The same nose , the same freckles on their face in the same position even on their nose lol. The same lips, the same face shape and chin. MJ even shares the same teeth right down the slightly longer left- middle incisor.
If you think shit is taken straight from face scans to finished product and nothing else, then you have no knowledge about game development and have no business talking shit
They've said that it's the same actress and they have 0 reason to lie. Why would they use a random intern writer who never even went in to appear in person as the face of this character and then pay another actress to be her? If you think about it for longer than 5 seconds it makes no sense. The devs say it's not the intern, the intern says it's not her, and the actress says she is the face too.
You are trying to understand why they would do it
I am telling you, you have fricking eyes
Do you?
no anon you see the artist then went over it and added all the features of this intern i decided is destroying our gaming culture because pussy is bad and they are trying to take away our culture from us
Probably they thought it would be funny or they had a crush on the intern. Jordan White allowed Heather Antos to create her self insert Gwenpool because she was his work wife assistant and he is too much of a fat simp to tell her no.
She denies it now but it's only because she got caught. There is no way that coincidentally the designers made MJ look exactly like the writing intern when they were meant to be designing a girl that looks like this.
dumb sjw homosexual
Even in these pictures, the real girl is cute, but Mary Jane is ugly.
the real person has imperfections that make them look like a living thing, the model has a bunch of lines and textures that make every piece of her face stand out unnaturaly, look at the eyes and the lines surrounding them and its easy to notice theres something wrong there
its clearly the same person tho, the model is just shit
>the real person has imperfections that make them look like a living thing
And yet, the word "imperfection" is a much better description for the CGI thing.
I think mockery would be a better term
this happens all the time with face rigs
either the technology sucks and leads to uncanny valley, making the actress look ugly or they just make the character look more ugly
look at Horizon's and Control's original actresses
you done?
did you work on this travesty or some shit?
Listen, if you want to engage in pointless victimhood, conspiracy theories, and confirmation bias, that's fine by me, but don't complain because others aren't broken like you.
I never said any of that shit, you did
All I said was it looks like this person and not that one, stop getting so defensive like you have some personal stake in this
here's a character that there's no mistaking who was face scanned for comparison
no i said that, not that guy, you seem very convinced you are arguing with one person when theres about 3 or 4 people mocking your inability of recognizing that the intern looks nothing like the model .
Projecting?
I know it wasn't one person, but being the hivemind that Cinemaphile is, it's easier to just reply to all of you at once
She even has the same mouth shape with the way one lip is slightly raised over the other when she smiles
She's a qt =^3^=
are you face blind? do you have trouble recognizing facial features or what feeling someone face portrays? You keep saying that we have eyes but you dont seem able to see that she looks nothing like the intern and looks everything like the actual fricking actor, just uglier.
the only eye you seem to be using is the eye of your butthole when your daddy bangs you, how can you not see the likeness of the actress
God I'm calling it already
>inb4 le "I was only pretending to be moronic"
Don't fall for ignorant bait, anons. Discussion should be had with people that can put more effort into their arguments that aren't the same three phrases they spouted before
this little homosexual lives in a fantasy world where everything has to be some big conspiracy , anyone with a set of eyes can see that the intern isnt similar to the actual model but somehow
"oh no the artist saw one look at the puss on that one intern and decided that vavavooom imma throwing out the actual actor likeness we hired and making her as close as possible to the intern that will get me some of that puss, gang gang "
this kind of shit is why china is beating the shit out of us, all the kids are moronic nowadays and need narratives where they see through the hidden meanings
to feel smart
If true that means it was some skinny simp frick who made it like her calling it "the most beautiful design i could think of" in an attempt to frick her
The female Robert Zdar
The male Wynona Judd
every time a shitty game releases people just go down a list of everyone who worked on it until they find an ugly b***h who sort of looks similar and then that's the narrative they run with for the next 10 years
except for the fact these people usually don’t hide it all.
you could merely look up their twitter history and find out the truth easily.
these people do not hide their actions at all.
How is it supposed to be a self-insert when there is a literal face model for this shit now?
I thought this wasn't real. Like it was photoshopped.
Idk why some people will try to argue that it's good for her to look more like the average woman when MJ was always way above average in terms of beauty.
please spoiler that shit
i get a microo jumpscare every time i see it
Is it at least worth getting Spider-Man 2 for the gameplay? Is it fun on that level?
It's just button-mashing BamHam combat but somehow even more braindead.
No
For a $70 price tag? Just play Web of Shadows or Dimensions
Hell, fricking play Spider-Man 3 on the PS2
I checked after asking and jesus, I'd have thought the price would have dipped at least a little after a month or so. Even in the UK it's a full £70. How the frick does this happen when a brand new game was, at most, like £45 just a few years ago??
Also I played Spider-Man 3 on the Wii, does that count?
Yes, don't let Xbeaners fool you
It's genuinely less fun and more poorly paced than the first one, just replay that one.
What boggles my mind is that they insist that there's no difference at all.
Mogged by an MJ made over a decade ago. Hell, the entire game was just a crappier Web of Shadows.
This is honestly the wildest part to me, they put all this money, time and hype behind a more moronic WoS with somehow worse pacing and characters.
And the gameplay is only better because they had a decent base game to build on so it didnt feel as raw, WoS combat still feels better in the end despite being done in under 18 months
literally playing web of shadows right now and it plays like shit compared to the modern games. people saying web of shadows is better then ps4 are pure contrarians
iirc in web of shadows you could even fight enemies on building walls. if that's true then a decade old game had more "spiderman" mechanics than the last 3
The mechanics for that were shit and anything that wasn't fighting enemies on the ground was a slog to go through. Just cause it exists doesn't automatically make it good
I can't believe we live in a time where we got a "Symbiote takes over New York where Venom isn't allowed to be fun" plot twice now and Web of Shadows is the game which did it better. Also Black Cat mogs MJ in every universe
>make Peter look younger and more handsome
>Make MJ uglier
What did they mean by this?
I miss old Peter too. Why are they doing this? Why can't they make up their minds? I expect Miles will be an elderly Chinese man in the third game.
Aw, left one looks like a sadfrog
I think the Not Holland model is a downgrade, even if he's more conventionally attractive. It's a little too boyish.
he looks too young now
left fits a bit older peter much more
also he looks bit uncanny now, like they couldnt get rights to Hollands face, but still tried to make something inspired by the new actor
But the old one is better looking.
They wanted to be as faithful to the Disney movies that came out as they could and got his model to look more like Tom Holland who plays the character in those. From a marketing perspective, you can understand the possible decision of opting to go for the movie version of the character as audiences will already be familiar and more likely attached to him from there.
I'm stealing this, gonna call MCUslop disney movies from now on.
Why does he look Asian on the right even though his model is based off Holland?
The left was way better but I'm glad they at least improved on the right in Spider-Man 2.
Ps4 Peter looks like Romita's Peter
Yuri is superior to MJ in every concievable way and I'm tired of pretending otherwise. Well, aside from the awful costume they gave her in 2.
>unlock a suit after finishing her and Cletus Kasady's sidequest chain
>you get an ugly knock-off Wraith suit instead of a Spider-Cop outfit because of the journoswine whining about "copaganda" years back
Fricking coward devs.
I haven't played the game but I heard they really toned down police presence in general, when Spidey working with the NYPD and fighting the Sinister Six alongside them was a notable part of the first game
Yeah, they show up exactly once (while you're chasing the Lizard as opposed to fighting Kraven's hunters, the Symbiotes, or any of the random crimes) and it's so Spider-Man can yell "YOU'RE NOT HELPING". He has more interactions with firefighters for frick's sake.
Yeah Spider-Man swinging over to talk to some fricking firefighters and help them out was super jarring. I didn't like how it portrays how Peter has a negative relationship with law enforcement but Miles, for SOME fricking reason, doesn't. He just doesn't. Peter has to finesse his way around a crime scene to gather evidence. Miles can plop down and stomp all over an investigation so he can Batman all the information up and swing away to a marker in the city. It only happened once in the game but it was another example of favoritism. The universe is literally bending to Miles' will to accept him as Spider-Man.
>No concern for budget or practicality afforded by being a videogame
>Literally unlimited possibilities
>Do a costume straight out of The CW
Whoever concept arted this should never work again.
They're all frumpy hags anon, don't new normal this shit.
are zoomer's more faceblind than previous generations or just groomed that way?
do they even care? cause I thought I was more face blind but these are so soulless and ugly almost deadpan robot expression(less)
no wonder they are all virgin morons
Could crack walnuts with that jaw
old peter was so fugly
Bait
Damn, guess they got older
They’re both in their mid-20s.
this is the same couple after they both transitioned.
It's funny because Peter became (slightly) better looking but MJ became much uglier
KEK
MJ crashed the wall it seems
It's ma'am!
Enough with the realistic graphics. Let comic book games look like comic book games again.
Does she look like Shrek to anyone else?
Any chance someone can mod MJs face to appear as another face model? Like a Chloe Grace Moretz face mod for MJ?
That's the problem, women. A woman is an ugly creature, inside and out, a creature with a congenital defect. Peter always suffers from this, not because of the Goblin or anyone else. Women who cannot simply defend themselves, even Felicia. There is a solution, Peter needs a shota. spider boy, if at this moment you are spitting bile, then I can congratulate you, you are a cuckold and a feminist, your fate is to always whine about the fact that spider-man is humiliated. come on troony, write about pedophilia, you are a pathetic parody of a person. Relationships between men and handsome boys were favored in all great civilizations: from Ancient Egypt and Persia to Rome.
>MJ was so ugly that even normalgays shitted all over her, not just the usual culture warriors
fricking hilarious
I hate how much the game rushes to get to Venom. Like, the pacing is fine until Peter gets the symbiote, and then it rushes through that so we can get Venom. Peter only has the suit for like a few days and it changes him? If it was paced well and a better written story, he should have had the symbiote for at least a month, and then he's telling Harry to take more pills. Not after a few days.
it feels like its missing a whole chapter where peter is now aware the symbiote is fricking him up and fighting it for control, where he would be over violent to someone like shocker
>missing a whole chapter where peter is now aware the symbiote is fricking him up and fighting it for control, where he would be over violent to someone like shocker
Unfortunately we for some reason needed Miles to be the one to help Peter take it off compared to it being a sole Peter arc like it should have been.
It's so weird. In every single other Spider-Man story with the symbiote, Peter's always been the one who can finally throw the symbiote off by himself. But because Miles is in this game and he's just oh-so-important and special, instead we get the first ever time where Peter's not strong enough to get rid of the black suit himself.
>we get the first ever time where Peter's not strong enough to get rid of the black suit himself.
Because Miles is the heckin bestest! That's also why he was able to redeem a villain despite not having a lot of experience compared to Peter! You gotta love the Miles wank!
Their message is so clear
You're a fricking moron complaining about a story when you read the cliffnotes that had coffee stains on them.
The reason the objectives are different is because you learn from the Peter fight that the only way to get it off is for someone to help you see through the manipulated feelings and frustrations the symbiote is using to control and isolate you.
The reason MJ's fight is one giant "woman moment" as you dumbass homosexuals call it is because those are the minor and suppressed thoughts the symbiote is bringing up to make MJ fight Peter.
>the only way to get it off is for someone to help you see through the manipulated feelings and frustrations the symbiote is using to control and isolate you.
Something that has never happened in any other Spider-Man telling of the symbiote
That's your only argument against it because now you can't say it's just them making Peter a b***h.
Keep crying culture war Black person.
It is them making Peter a b***h. Peter doesn't do a lot in the story without Miles. I know you Milesgays are hopeless shills, but there's no reason for Miles to be at every event happening in the game. Especially for an emotional arc for Peter like taking off the black suit. It's not culture war bs to point out that they keep shoving this character down our throats and telling us how great Miles is. Suck my dick, homosexual.
I never mentioned Miles once you disingenuous moron. I was pointing out that you were clearly ignoring that working with someone else is the only way to fight off the symbiote in this version of the story. It doesn't make Peter a b***h just because they made a change you pretend not to like just to rile people up on the internet.
>they made a change you pretend not to like just to rile people up on the internet.
Lifelong Spider-Man fan and it's a bad change. I know you feel you need to white knight this game, but it's pathetic to go this far. Miles is fine in Spider-Verse, but here it's so obvious frickin wank.
>Durrr I never mentioned Miles
You know damn well you and I were talking about the same moment. Go argue in bad faith somewhere else.
I want to frick Venom.
>You don't understand, it's not shitty writing because there's setup!
Shitty writing can be shitty writing even if it has qualities that good writing does too.
Execution is what matters.
It can be shitty but you Black folk wouldn't know because from what I've seen half of you don't know what you're talking about.
I'm sick of you homosexuals coming on here to complain about things you haven't read and just assuming you're right. I get it, it's a next generation release and not everyone has the cash to get a ps5 and the game. But at the very least watch a playthrough before you complain about story shit.
The reason for that objective marker that gets everyone boiling in these threads being worded like that is very clear and makes sense if you have context and aren't just being baited into a kneejerk reaction.
>But at the very least watch a playthrough before you complain about story shit.
I literally played the game to completion and got the platinum trophy. The Miles wank is too much and Peter not taking off the suit himself is bullshit. Frick you.
>hurr durr i did just believe me bro i know everything in the story firsthand and didnt just absorb the shitposts from threads to form my own imaginary story in my head where mean ol miles oppresses the white man at every turn
Yeah right, and Cinemaphile likes video games.
I got the game on launch and went through it all in a weekend, but sure, don't believe me since you want to be a homosexual about it.
If you want to find a group of people who'll pretend the game is good, I suggest you leave Cinemaphile and find an echo-chamber to chat in. Maybe resetera?
Do you have a browser extension that jumbles posts into something completely different or can you just not read properly?
>because you learn from the Peter fight that the only way to get it off is for someone to help you see through the manipulated feelings and frustrations the symbiote is using to control and isolate you.
You mean getting punched by Miles Morales with a Venom Blast while also ringing the bell long enough to make the symbiote weak?
That doesnt actually address the post at all, wtf. There's no identifiable reason for the distinction, given the information you presented, other than for the purpose of hating on Peter.
Miles is trying to remove the suit from Peter. Only able to do it by the combination of talking to him and weakening it via sound.
Peter, knowing that the mental hold is important knows he has to help MJ remove it herself.
That's why they're worded differently.
homie he's still helping her remove the suit. Adding "herself" is still purely a vindictive choice.
You are a mentally ill schizo
wow you are so cool Miles... you can do things I could NEVER do despite you being a rookie and me being active for a decade... and doing those things in various stories for decades before... you should be the only real Spider-Man™ because you're so much better than me just like MJ said... I should've never been Spider-Man because of how stupid and incompetent I am... I wish I had a Gwen to give you because you deserve everything I have and invented so much more... I'll have to settle for giving you Silk and retiring at 26 so you can take over fully because you're so competent...
>pic
It's THAT bad huh
Why is Peter a ninja
Who's that guy from Shrek? Farkwad? A woman's face shouldn't remind you of a man's face no matter how ugly they are.
with that attitude you're really limiting yourself to dating orphans
I could forgive a lot of the weird and terrible things they did with MJ if they didn't make her such an insufferable c**t and have the story bend over backwards to justify her terrible behaviour the whole way through
Like any of you incels whining here will ever touch a woman, period. Sad little misogynists fapping to porn and thinking it’s real life, you deserve your small lives of pathetic desperation.
Why would anyone want to touch a woman period?
I sleep with hookers.
>Real women look like video game characters chud!
Brainrot
Poor Pete.
Avert your gaze, male.
I want someone to rip the games models and take off her shoes and display her sexy feet with this model.
>The New Normal
Subtle.
Ugly women should be enslaved and forced to work in coal mines or some shit. They serve no purpose otherwise.
one look at this MJ and the canary would drop dead
did they used someone with a diaper full for the running mocap animation???
I hate stealth sections shoved into games. They're always dogshit because you can't properly put in meaningful stealth gameplay that's only going to be used twice. It leads to shit like this where you can easily break it and turn it into a joke.
I wish I had a jaw close to that
Face it tiger. you like boy clitty and pounding bussy.
Harry is gay as frick in this game
Peter and Harry act really gay as frick in the game. Which lets me know the writers are either gays are primarily women because they don't know how to write antagonistic men. They don't know how to write violence and deliver in an impactful manner that grips audiences. They were handed Venom on a platter and they did relatively little to elevate him. Venom had to be cool on his own--he got zero fricking help from the writing team on that end. Harry was a total pussy, the writing was anemic and stunted and everything got rushed. MJ never should have been involved as heavily as she was. That was their team's first and most undeniable frick-up.
You're moronic if you think she's not good looking
>The most beautiful Irish woman
To this day I'm trying to understand why people think she's ugly. Are my standards that low? Or are people moronic? The majority of complaints are on here and Twitter so I'm leaning towards the latter
She just looks like a normal person to me. Not hideous not a goddess just an average girl
She has to compete with 10's like Tifa and Cammy....so she's ugly by comparison in the vidya world.
>She has to compete with 10's like Tifa and Cammy....so she's ugly by comparison in the vidya world.
In fairness you compared to two fictional girls that never had face models; you should at least mention RE 4 Remakes Ashly as she had as face model that's even close to the actual girl they used.
Capcom actually tries to keep the faces 1:1 to their models.
You're giving them too much credit. Jill Valentine in Resident Evil 3 Remake is much uglier then the actual model
>Jill Valentine in Resident Evil 3 Remake is much uglier then the actual model
Going to have to stop you there, anon.
Literally 1:1, dude.
She's ugly in comparison to MJ from the first game.
>Take previously attractive character
>Inflate jawline
>”Omg why do people think she’s ugly?”
>hawt
Why is Mr Incredible wearing a wig?
the spidey games might be the most sexist and racist video games i know
i have never seen a protagonist being treated so badly before.
you can really tell that they hate peter for being a white guy
Hope this MJ dies in the3rd game. Then Peter can go find himself a better replacement
kek Insomniac Spidey is the worst version so this is the MJ he deserved before retiring like a lazy quitter for Spider-Token anyway.
I only play maximum carnage on sega genesis
She looks fine
/v/tards really want people to hate the game, don't they?
The thing that makes me mad is that she acts as if doing this is better than working for JJJ or writing another book. THEN YOU SEE HER UPLOAD HER PODCAST RIGHT AS SHE FINISHES RECORDING, NO EDITING, RAW AUDIO.
b***h NO ONE WILL TUNE INTO THAT EVERY WEEK.
Will any Spider-Man game ever give her the black highlights?
I understand all the hate but anons, listen to me!
She big...
I could dig a latrine if I used her face as a shovel.
What was his fricking problem?
Donny Cates Venom run and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
>Donny Cates' comics and their consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
Fixed it for you
>forgot the ' at end of a name that ends with s
I want to fricking kill myself I'm so embarrassed.
It wasn't even that. It was just that all of Cates' comics are bad.
Honestly I like the Venom redemption he did, it was nice development for Eddie and Venom. I just fricking hate everything else. The wings, the perfectly formed axe with glowing energy blades that he makes and wields instead of using his goo to form a blade, the King in Black stuff, turning red and growing extra arms. All the fricking KNULL SHIT!
It's all so tiresome.
Anyone got the sauce on these? My image searches have failed.
Pretty sure those are from Spider-Man.
Thanks anon that's great. You're truly as helpful and useful as testicles on a woman.
You're welcome anon.
I don't think she's ugly but the first time I saw her, I was like Aunt May looks great. This was not a good model for a Mary Jane. When you see her with Peter, she looks way older than him.
>at some point miles was meant to get the symbiote as well
>90% of venom's dialogue was cut
Why did they do it?
Curious as to why Insomniac didn't give the classic black suit costume the same logo as the game one. Using these action figures as a reference, the game one uses the symbol on the left, and the classic suit uses the one on the right, which I think looks worse. But it also makes no sense since in Secret Wars #8 and all of the ASM issues where he has that suit on, it looks like the left. I'm curious about the decision to not have the same logo used.
It wouldn't be the classic black suit if it had the Insomniac Spider symbol would it?
What did he mean by this?
Another one to show that the left symbol should have been on the classic symbiote suit.
God the all black look with the minimal blue highlights is so fricking good.
Nothin better, honestly. It's why I love that the Mafex figure also has blue highlights.
i hope amazing yamaguchi move his broken ass and make a symbiont spiderman figure already
Which way, black suit enjoyer?
Change the symbol to a less ugly one, and then pick the left colors. I don't like how the right's shading looks in game. Should have been blue highlights or not even bothered.
It's a reference to Fox Venom.
I'm aware. I just don't think it looks very good in game.
Fair. I think they should have added a version of it with just the blue highlights as a reference to the classic comic highlights, I don't even remember what the fourth option for the classic suit is.
that's pretty cool
kinda wish it was more flat looking though
Leftmost
I think that's meant to be subtle rather than how distinct it is in the game. Red and blue are reflections there
Red/Blue only works in 2D
Purple works in cartoony Spidey games
Black all the way
If game is bad how come Venom and Scream make my Spider Sense tingle? Checkmate.
Mary Jane shitting on Peter during the fight for minutes on end completely undercuts the cool factor of Scream. It's the "that part" of boss fights. Have to play it on mute and watch the stupid fricking AI kite around and do this bizarre dance of running from you so the game can get all of its hero-shitting dialogue out. So that the game is certain you've heard the "argument" its presenting as the titular hero is torn down by a whiny nagging c**t who never apologizes or takes back the shit she says.
>I had to work for Jonah and do things I didn't like!!
You turned in one fricking assignment on Spider-Man and shit your bed. Peter has been doing that for close to a decade, watching his heroic efforts and selfless virtue continuously marginalized just so he can have money to put food on the table. Living with the negative constant emotional and mental headspace of having to be positive as your boss shits your neck even though you're the only person able to provide him with what he needs. This just sets up Mary Jane to be a pussy who couldn't handle it. Her book sold like shit so she quits. She turns in one article and then quits. But no, keep blaming Peter for putting others first. People (women) writing comic book characters who are incapable of getting in their mindset make me fricking sick. This bullshit never would've made it in a game if Spider-Man was in the hands of a Japanese developer or something.
I will now buy your game.
How would a She-Venom work in Insomniac Spider-Man?
So what could they even do in Spider-Man 3? They killed a LOT of villains.
Yeah, because we all know that Spider-Man is lacking in stories
Yeah but they involve people that are alive. Usually.
Multi universe shenanigans, why else did make Miles a bigger part in the story?
Would you plough MJ's symbiussy?
the prostitute of marvel comics
Not my MJ.
I miss the MJ who acted as Peter's rock, giving him not only perspective but reminding him to have fun and not spiral into his usual maudlin, guilt-ridden self. Why the hell does every writer insist on writing MJ as if Peter being a hero is a personal attack on her?
>Why the hell does every writer insist on writing MJ as if Peter being a hero is a personal attack on her?
Several reasons:
>with Brand New Day, that's the in-universe reason why MJ broke up with Peter aside from the whole "sold their marriage to the devil for the life of some constantly near-death old biddy" thing
>adaptation writers LOVE pulling from modern comics, as opposed to pulling from the classic comics that fans actually enjoy
>most writers are hacky enough to think that any sort of relationship drama = good drama, regardless of how tacky and unpleasant it actually is
>I miss the MJ who acted as Peter's rock, giving him not only perspective but reminding him to have fun and not spiral into his usual maudlin, guilt-ridden self
The greatest love interests embody these attributes because these are what men--hell, anyone--would want in a romantic partner. No one benefits from strife between the two characters. Or making Mary Jane a boring ugly b***h.
The frick? Is MJ supposed to be specifically muscular in this run or that's how she always used to be? Those thighs and calves are hectic
thats not Tony Stark
Fricking b***h
>the prostitute of marvel comics
Yeah unlike Gwen who never cheated on Peter I am sure that MJ prostitute is happy with Paul.
>Face it munchkin, you just received the consolation prize
It's funny how the Scream/MJ fight was supposed to show the struggles of a stronk wahman and the outcome of this fight was her calling J.J. to say that she quits her job while Peter should be like "You can't handle J.J.? b***h I've been getting our money from him for ages, lmao so stronk you are, Jackpot..."
>AIEEEEEEEEE MJ HELP ME!
Post more fridge
Why are realistic women ugly?
Are they saying beautiful women aren’t real?
You never see hot chicks called “realistic”
>why do weak, ugly people think that being strong and pretty is unrealistic???
It's a real headscratcher, anon.
The living costume is not a shonen manga power-up that makes you stronger and angrier, nor is it a metaphor for drug addiction ruining your life. No I don't care about modern retcons
>But every adaptation since the 90's cartoon does that
And all of them have shitty, unsatisfying arcs involving the living costume or Venom.
>Not muh
Exactly. Do it right or don't do it at all and especially frick that moron at Insomniac for saying they couldn't add it as an unlockable for the first game because "it's one of the best Spider-Man stories" with how blatantly he didn't read anything involving it
She looks like a 46 year old mom
And not even a MILF
Your ass belongs to me Peter Parker forever so says Mephisto
The art styles of these games have had serious uncanny Valley since the first. Some characters are not as bad but most aren't great
The right man for that MJ prostitute.
i have a big chin gf. i love her
nop
Face it, man-dible. You jaw-st chin-t the cleftpot.