This could actually be quite kino, lads.
The cast actually seems like it could work. Goggins seems like a good pick and Kyle MacLachlan also stars (presumably as the Overseer).
I'm intrigued.
Fallout TV Show (2023)
This could actually be quite kino, lads.
The cast actually seems like it could work. Goggins seems like a good pick and Kyle MacLachlan also stars (presumably as the Overseer).
I'm intrigued.
>Amazon
It's gonna suck
Nah, shut up simp b***h. Fricking b***hboi. It's gonna rock balls.
Amazon and Bethesda will assrape Fallout anon. Stop denying it. Black Isle/Obsidian were the only people that made Fallout good.
I don't know why people hate on Bethesda. I liked Fallout 4 and I LOVED Skyrim. Yeah their shit is buggy as frick, and the mod community always has to fix everything afterwards, but the mod community is fricking awesome as a result.
I was watching MXR on youtube long after I stopped playing either game. His new channel sucks, but frick me did those games have some replayability.
Their big mistake was going MMO and trying to police the mod community.
Fallout 3 and Oblivion were kino but Fallout 4 and Skyrim were utter dogshit. You have absolutely no taste in or understanding of video games if you think 4 and Skyrim were remotely good.
Don't care. Didn't ask. Plus you're black.
Also
>Fallout 3
>Not New Vegas
Even your attempts at being pretentious are lame.
Skyrim was objectively a better game than Oblivion in every single way, and the ONLY reason to think otherwise is nostalgia. Don’t get me wrong, I find Oblivion fun, but it’s probably the most broken pile of trash Bethesda has ever made. Skyrim improved on it in literally every way except some of the storylines.
skyri is literally obidian with more budget, what peopel are even arguing about
they are hated for horribe writing, constant moronic retcons, primitive quests and casualization
that's something no modder can fix
bugs are only a small part of it
>I'm a homosexual who hates stuff because I think it makes me look cool because I'm not cool enough to know it makes me look like the homosexual I actually am.
Didn't need your whole biography Anon, you could have just told me to ignore you.
iam a homosexual that hates when low quality content replaces high quality content you moronic consoomer
>iam a homosexual
I know, that's what I said.
In the meantime we in the heterosexual world played the frick out of Skyrim and Fallout 4 because they are good games.
yeah yeah, good one pajeet
ok but BESIDES that
what is even left?
>I don't know why people hate on Bethesda.
Their games are brilliantly mediocre and buggy. Writing is best described their games might be good despite writing. They have been one of the driving forces behind casualization of gaming. As you said it always fall to mod community salvage their games by fixing bugs, adding content and to extent fixing fricking game mechanics.
Skyrim is pretty much epitome of what they do. Pretty huge open world full of mediocre quests and those generated radiant quests. Go to a place, kill everything, loot everything and you see next place to explore or go find another radiant fetch or kill quest to use as excuse to get to another location. Rinse, repeat. You could spend endless hours and be mildly amused about it. It isn't bad, but certainly nothing great or epic.
New Vegas was developed by Obsidian, when compared to Fallout 4 or 76, even Fallout 3 is well written despite being moronic rehash of two original Fallout.
Fallout is unapologetic SCIENCE! fiction pulp with satirical tone. There is no reason to pretend those are some great literature, but compared to drivel Bethesda's interpretation of Fallout is, originals and New Vegas kinda seem like great literature with plenty of depth.
And yet people love them.
And lets be clear, the reason Amazon licenced Fallout for a TV show is BECAUSE people loved them.
Which means the ultimate end to this conversation is you don't watch and nobody listens to you because you don't actually like Fallout.
>facepalm
whay homosexuals like you like is not fallout
>And lets be clear, the reason Amazon licenced Fallout for a TV show is BECAUSE people loved them.
If it was about Bethesda Fallouts, Amazon would have likely licensed Elder Scroll's. Them licensing Fallout might have a lot to do with Originals and New Vegas being cult classics that are still talked about and showing up all kinds of articles about best rpg's of all time.
>you because you don't actually like Fallout.
I might not like Bethesda Fallout's because those have absolutely dreadful writing by admittedly anti-intellectual narrative design. You should watch Emil Pagliarulo's lecture about game writing from almost a decade ago, he thinks complex writing in video games is pointless because players are morons. That might apply to Bethesda fanboys.
Interplay licensed a Fallout movie in late 90's, but that project died long before filming anything.
Fallout 3 is shitty rehash of two original games. You seem like fan of exploring pointless metro tunnels.
Creatively Bethesda has been in decline since fricking Daggerfall. The thing is that more casualized and moronic games have sold ever better is because video games as form of entertainment and as business have grown at insane rate since 90's. We might be starting to reach a point where that growth might start to slow down. Given how latest Battlefield and Call of Duty have crashed and burned, we might have reached the point where shittier sequels don't sell better than earlier games. On long term that might lead to quality of AAA-games starting to improve.
>Daggerfall.
nta, do you preffer dagerfall over morrowind?
I find the idea of making a generic fantasy world simulator more interesting than Morrowind. Morrowind might be actually better game than Daggerfall. I can also admit that I have more nostalgia boner for Daggerfall because that was my first game in the series. Everything Elder Scroll's have devolved since Morrowind.
>They don't need more fantasy.
Post apocalyptic scifi is far more niche genre than fantasy.
>It's show-business, not show-a bunch of eternally dissatisfied hipsters something they'll only hate anyway.
They might be looking for similar audience as Bethesda ever since Morrowind, morons who don't care about story. The thing is that it might work in video game, not so much in tv-show or movie where story and storytelling are most of the thing. There isn't eternal exploration loop and semi decent game to distract from flaws in narrative.
>Post apocalyptic scifi is far more niche genre than fantasy.
It's worth a billion dollars.
>morons who don't care about story.
Who paid a billion dollars for it.
>There isn't an open wor and decent gameplay to distract from flaws in narrative.
fix't but I agree.
I think what's actually going to happen is they'll try to appease the blue check marks like they always do and stuff this thing so full of wokeshit that the billion dollars will hate it.
Look at the fricking mess Paramount made of Halo and Netflix made of Witcher. Ironically they're going to use your bullshit as an excuse, they're going to say "oh we wanted to go back to the feeling of Fallout 1 that's why we put interracial lesbians and a holocaust allegory in it."
It's what they always do, they can't help themselves.
The reality is they're not adapting Fallout for the billion dollars, they're ruining Fallout to punish the billion dollars for liking Fallout before they ruined it.
But it's still all about the billion dollars, and not about some hipster banging on about how games "used to be so much better," when they were forced to run on 8mb of RAM.
>I think what's actually going to happen is they'll try to appease the blue check marks like they always do and stuff this thing so full of wokeshit that the billion dollars will hate it.
That is something I can agree with.
>a holocaust allegory in it.
Post apocalyptic scifi is most often result of nuclear holocaust. Holocaust allegory might not be out of place here.
>interracial lesbians
These might be bit out of place.
>when they were forced to run on 8mb of RAM.
That limitation might have forced better writing to compensate for lack of technical capabilities. Orig Fallout required 16Mb, Fallout 2 de facto required 32Mb or 64Mb to keep loading times reasonable. It had quite a bit more to load than first game.
>And the point I am making is that Fallout 4 should be the model as it has the broadest appeal and this is a commercial show.
It has even weaker writing than idiotic rehash of two originals that was Fallout 3. It has better game mechanics as shooter and better graphics. If they model the show on Fallout 4, it will crash and burn pretty hard as tv-shows or movies rarely get carried by visuals, in most cases good movies have good story. Sure there are rare exceptions of great films entirely carried by visuals, but those rare, few and far between.
You know fans of stuff sometimes end up reasonably high in corporate ladder of entertainment companies.
>That limitation might have forced better writing to compensate for lack of technical capabilities
Being crap for a reason is still being crap.
>tv-shows or movies rarely get carried by visuals,
This is wrong. Film is a visual medium. But more importantly what the audience expects to see is based on their experience of Fallout 4. So it will sink or swim based on that.
All you're really suggesting is that they should have good writing generally, nothing specifically to do with Fallout 1, just "write gud Amazon"
Fair enough I guess.
>If it was about Bethesda Fallouts, Amazon would have likely licensed Elder Scroll's
They've got Rangz and Woke of Time. They don't need more fantasy.
>I might not like Bethesda Fallout
Yep and they don't care about you. They care about the billion dollars that Bethesda made for Fallout 4.
It's show-business, not show-a bunch of eternally dissatisfied hipsters something they'll only hate anyway.
>eternally dissatisfied hipsters
it hurts to know we are right doesnt it. eat your slop piggy
>it hurts to know we are right doesnt it.
Not even a little bit.
There is literally nothing about you I want to be. I went through a hipster phase and very quickly realized that the people I was trying to impress were trying to impress a bunch of people I didn't like.
That's how I learned to stop caring about other people's opinions and just like what I like. And it turns out by doing that I can pretty much tell what will make money and what won't.
>I learned to stop caring about other people's opinions and just like what I like
you can like anything you want dumbo. it wont make bethesda shit good, but enjoy it as much as you can. But you do care what others think. thats why you are seething like a little kid
>it wont make bethesda shit good
Yes it will.
If I like it it's good.
I forgot to add that now all you homosexuals bend over backwards to try to impress the people trying to impress me. The world is fricking hilarious from my point of view. Sure you'll whinge and moan and deny it, and the blue check marks will try to punish me for being so important because they aren't. It's all irrelevant. It's all just ego getting in the way of kino.
>If I like it it's good.
then whats the point of discusing anything? go jerk off to your moronic bethesda shit and dont bother people
>then whats the point of discusing anything?
For you? None. I've made that point several times.
For the rest of us discussing what we like helps us learn about more things we might like.
Except they've already made several.
>helps us learn about more things we might like
dont pretend to be moronic. your measurment of good=what you like therefore anything anyone says is worthless as it cannot even be good if you have not played it.
but if discussion for was about looking for recomendations, you wouldnt be here ÏTT.
>your measurment of good=what you like
Sorry this seems to suggest that you think stuff you don't like is good.
If you don't like a thing I like, that's fine. But why on earth would even be in the thread for the thing you don't like? Let alone actually expect me to listen to you tell me why the thing I like is objectively bad.
You can bang on about Voice Actors till you die of dehydration, I liked it, and your input doesn't factor into that.
>But why on earth would even be in the thread for the thing you don't like?
because i liked FO1 and here are plenty of anons who feel the same and i enjoy their company.
you dont have to listen. why would you engage me in a discussion if you dont care? You also dont believe in objectivity so any discussion of quality is pointless with you
Because this isn't a thread for Fallout 1. It's a thread for the Fallout TV show where you're trying to explain why Amazon should ignore the billion dollars that paid for Fallout 4 because of it's shit Voice Acting and instead focus on thing but you don't actually give a reason why other than you personally liked it while at the same time dismissing what the billion dollars likes.
Objectively speaking Amazon, who is very much listening to us right now as this is a shill thread but the shill is virtually silent, should not listen to you.
and i am using this thread for a shitty fallout series to discuss how the old one was good. i dont give a shit if they listen, i am not going to pay for it or watch it.
Then you should be on Wrong board
I believe they have a thread up already.
no not really. as we are discussing story and worldbuilding in connection to new tv show this is very proper place. also i dont appreciate Cinemaphileermin
>i dont appreciate Cinemaphileermin
And now you understand why I'm stomping on you.
>as we are discussing story and worldbuilding in connection to new tv show
And the point I am making is that Fallout 4 should be the model as it has the broadest appeal and this is a commercial show.
Youre making this mistake of believeing this show is made for, or by, Fallout fans.
No. I'm not.
I'm
I'm just trying to get you on the right page.
>And the point I am making is that Fallout 4 should be the model as it has the broadest appeal and this is a commercial show.
and no one else ever was talking about that. it was either "i want" or "would be good".
but you know that very and are jsut trying to justify your powerless seethe
>it was either "i want" or "would be good".
No it wasn't.
It was a bunch of shit about how you don't like Fallout 4.
And me telling you why you should frick right off then.
>It was a bunch of shit about how you don't like Fallout 4.
and thats the continuation of what is good on fallout franchise. i dont adress your seethe as it isnt part of the discussion
>and thats the continuation of what is good on fallout franchise
But that's NOT what's good about the Fallout franchise.
You were outvoted.
What's good about the Fallout franchis is what's in Fallout 4 ergo you are not rightly considered a fan of the Franchise.
>t. israelite
>You were outvoted.
quality isnt a democracy anon. i am definetly not a fan of the franchise. or any other for that matter. i am not a part of any gaming community either
>quality isnt a democracy anon
Kinda is tho.
>i am definetly not a fan of the franchise
Then why are you in the thread? You were never going to like it, you definitely shouldn't watch it, it's not for you and that's literally all that matters as far as you're concerned.
Your opinion here is exactly as important as your opinion on which is the best tampon for a heavy flow day. Nobody care, why are you even thinking about tampons?
>Kinda
it isnt
>Then why are you in the thread?
i already explained it to you. but tbh you held me here much longer than i would be here normaly as you twirling around like an autistic kid is kinda funny
Kiiiiiiiiiiindaaaaaaaaaaa is tho.
>i already explained it to you.
No you didn't. You said you weren't a fan of fallout. Why would you be in a thread about fallout if you're not a fan of fallout?
Don't pretend you're trolling, you're seeing things my way and you're trying to save face.
I remind you you are anonymous, you can stop at any time without admitting anything and you'll have lost nothing, nor will I have gained anything.
>Being this moronic
Cool beans bro. You sure got me. It's not like good has multiple overlapping definitions or anything. Have an updoot. Oh wait this isn't reddit.
>Why would you be in a thread about fallout if you're not a fan of fallout?
because i liked FO1.
Is this thread about FO1?
No.
It's about the TV show that you have zero chance of liking because you hate the fallout franchise and aren't a fan of it.
But the point that you seem to be struggling with is that a BILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF PEOPLE are.
This show SHOULD be for them and not for you.
That's just right.
its FO1 adjecant enough for me to be here. and you pointless seethe is a cherry on top
That's doesn't change what I said.
you mean the financial side? i never disputed that. from the financial standpoint they shou make a show from FO3/FO4 and for TES from skyrim 100%
>It's not like good has multiple overlapping definitions or anything
so the whole time you were talking about your personal opinion? why didnt you say so?
I did idiot. So many fricking times.
when?
You literally started @ing me because I said if I like it then it's good.
You fricking moron. You have literally pwned yourself.
no, i asked you if financial succes=good. You said yes. also statment
i like=good
doesnt mean good=i like it
see
well yes, now you made it clear and i can understand your use of good is worthless to anyone else and an empty word
are you black anon?
>If I like it it's good
this line of thinking is degenerate
as long as todd howard runs that place they will never make a good game
emil and todd are wombo combo that ruins bethesda games for at least 20 years
exactly
it's funny how these lemmings just keep denying
it's as if these games condition them to be on their knees and suck up to toddler
the fact that you call dogshit good says a lot about you
The fact that the bullshit earned a billion dollars says something about me.
The fact that you actually think anyone should care what you think says EVERYTHING about you.
If you can't see why Fallout 4 is successful then your opinion is worthless. And that's a fact.
Nobody has any reason at all to even listen to you, let alone impress you.
This isn't reddit, you don't get updoots for hating the popular thing. You get called a homosexual and told to frick off.
So frick off homosexual.
do you also equate financial success=good?
Of course. People pay for what they like.
The revenue of a thing is the price of a thing x the number of people who liked it enough to pay for it.
Ergo big revenue = lots of people who liked it.
Welcome to capitalism. If you don't like it there's always tetris. And only tetris.
is twillight good?
No it was awful. I can't female power fantasies.
But I'm not the target audience so I don't matter.
you dont see the the hole in the logic right?
Why don't you spell it out for me.
financial succes=good
twillight=financial succes
twillight=good
Yes.
What's that got to do with me?
This isn't a Twilight thread. If there ever is a Twilight thread I might make one comment saying I hate it, though probably not, and then hide the thread because I don't care about female power fantasies.
>What's that got to do with me?
it shows your measure of quality where
fin succes=good
as stupid and worthless
No it doesn't.
It just shows that I'm not in the audience for female power fantasies and therefore don't matter EXACTLY as I said when you asked me.
no you didnt. you said fin succes=good without any addendums.
Black person
>is twillight good?
>I'm not the target audience so I don't matter.
and that made no sense which i pointed out. if your law is fin succes=good its not possible.
>I don't think it's good but you shouldn't listen to my opinion
>b-b-but that's illogical
Smartphones were a mistake.
>I can't actually criticize israelites
There are no good israelites. You're all awful. You are absolutely representative of israelites, it's you we hate not those "other israelites" that you're "not like".
>opinion
we are not talking opinions. you said good. not i like it
High critical praise and finacial success are more legitimate measures of quality than anything that has ever been posted on Cinemaphile or Cinemaphile as it pertains to Fallout.
>anything that has ever been posted on Cinemaphile or Cinemaphile
why are you here
To shit on you, which I have done repeatedly.
ah in that case it makes sense. carry on
you keep yapping about money as if it means something
it doesn't
Didn't I post this already?
it doesn't seem to sink in so i feel it bears repeating
>i'll accuse him of exctly what i am, that'll show him!
your bullshit no workee on me, canaanite
Say what you hate about israelites using the word israelite and not a euphemism.
i'll call you what you are, edomite
and it's those who call themselves israelites but are not
get with the program, homosexual
No it isn't.
It's you. It's literally you. Your behavior in this very thread is a big part of what people don't like about israelites.
>talks about preddit, all the while making preddit posts
go back, you homosexual, you clearly don't belong
>If you can't see why Fallout 4 is successful then your opinion is worthless. And that's a fact.
Game industry and audience was still growing at really fast pace when it came out. So, naturally it sold better than previous games. That applied to pretty much all AAA-games back then. Video games might be reaching maturity as market and insane growth might be over, so sequels worse than previous installments of franchises might no longer outsell previous ones.
>Being crap for a reason is still being crap.
Both originals and New Vegas were far better written than anything that has come out of Bethesda.
>This is wrong. Film is a visual medium.
Films are rarely carried entirely by visuals. Sure there are experimental shit Koyaanisqatsi, that literally has no narrative, but usually you need both visuals and the story to make a good film. Film and video games are have massive difference there. Good game play can compensate for shitty story, shit, FPS's can become massive hits without even having a single player campaign. Even if those have critically acclaimed single player campaign, significant part of players entirely skip it and play the game only for multiplayer. If the fan reaction of The Last Jedi was entirely based on visuals, Solo might not have flopped and The Rise of Skywalker would have made even more money. That didn't happen. Visually nice film, with so shitty writing that it burned the franchise on big screen and made next film in trilogy relative flop.
>Game industry and audience was still growing at really fast pace when it came out.
And? Still a billion dollars worth of people who liked Fallout 4.
>Both originals and New Vegas were far better written than anything that has come out of Bethesda.
That doesn't actually matter in this context tho does it.
>Films are rarely carried entirely by visuals.
Transformers 2.
Written in crayon
Shot beautifully
836 million at the box office
THANKYOU. My entire fricking point.
>THANKYOU. My entire fricking point.
if you werent seething so much we would have solved that in two posts anon.
No if your if you approach to conversation was to form consensus instead of achieving victory we would have reached it in two posts.
i have been nothing but civil to you the entire time anon. you called insulted me in every single post you made.
i am happy to form a concensus if what you are arguing is agreeable. like the financial side
>And? Still a billion dollars worth of people who liked Fallout 4.
>That doesn't actually matter in this context tho does it.
Story and writing matters far more in film or tv-shows than it matters in video games.
>Transformers 2.
>836 million at the box office
Driven by 80's kids nostalgia for toys they played with as kids.
>I went through a hipster phase and very quickly realized that the people I was trying to impress were trying to impress a bunch of people I didn't like
this homosexual is not only insecure about liking shit, he is also projecting
Or are you self reflecting
>Skyrim
You mean the offline MMORPG simulator?
you're giving that turd too much credit
The writing and wirldbuilding in FO3 and FO4 are HORRIBLE. And Fallout originally being from the franchise with really good writing and worldbuilding, this leads to a lot of butthurt.
It's like asking Michael Bay to direct a sequel to Godfather.
>will
they did it like 15 years ago anon
This.
>I LOVED Skyrim
FRICK off. Bethesda has not released a single competent game since Morrowind. Oblivion and Skyrim gays are the literal equivalent of election tourists. I'd rather play Wasteland 2 and 3 that whatever Fallout garbage Bethesda shat out. New Vegas barely gets a pass because it's a competent developer stuck using the shitty Bethesda framework.
its gonna rock shit balls xD
This.
These are the same homosexuals doing Woke of Time and Lord of the Rangz, there's no way they're making something people who like Fallout will actually like, they're making something people who like Fallout will absolutely hate to punish them for liking stuff without permission from Blue Check Marks on twitter.
terminal list was kino tho. in fact there's quite alot of white male operator/none wokeshit on there, so hopefully this falls into that rather than lord of the rings etc
No there's not. There's two. Terminal List which was not at all Kino. And Reacher which was Kino.
Terminal List was just an attempt to repeat Reacher because Reacher was popular with "the right" but it didn't understand what everyone liked about Reacher and so it was just pathetic pandering.
patriot
new jack ryan
Patriot is literally the most pretentious and boring thing released this decade (and Malick has been releasing movies so that's saying something).
I didn't know new Jack Ryan was Amazon, but it's hardly kino.
>Goggins
is he gonna get to say Black person a lot?
can someone say what show/movie he actually says Black person a lot ?
The Shield, moron, see
Django, Hateful Eight
I've got more of a challenge. Name a show or movie that he doesn't?
Based Goggins
he rants about the israelites as the cartoon racist on Justified
Could be good only if it's the team that made The Boys and if the arts department creates a good retro future 50s aesthetic.
Otherwise it will suck.
Piss off Rogan. Nobody believed Charlize Theron would actually sleep with you.
WHAT ABOUT THE TEAM VIC? WHAT ABOUT THE TEAM?
Family meeting
AS I LIVE AND BREATH TOXIC AIR
WAHL TOWN GAWG EENS
AS I WISH FOR THE NUCLEAR WINTER
Don't say it Walton.
I hope this is based more upon the world of the first two games rather than the bethesda games. I'm not getting my hopes up though
>bethesda
>amazon
yeeah,
>lore will be raped harder than cook cook rapes ncr soldiers
>witing will be lifeless at best and oncentrated cringe at worst
>ESG score aka homosexualry, stronk wahmen, Black folk and other shit
>brotherhood will be a major thing
>pew pew and explosions over characters, dialogue and worldbuilding
>lore
lol
yes, lore, all fictional universes have it you moron
>I unironically think Fallout games are big brained literature.
Is this really what Cinemaphile is like?
fighting in fallout existed as supporting element in every mainline game(1 2 and NV)
only shitty spin offs were centered around combat
And yet nobody except a handful of obnoxious hipsters even gives a frick about Fallout 1 and 2.
New Vegas was good, but it's old.
Fallout 4 was worth literally hundreds of hours of play which even at New Release prices makes it one of the best value entertainment choices to ever exist, only beaten by Skyrim which was worth thousands of hours of play.
That makes them, objectively, the best single player games ever made. And you hating on them because they're popular makes you lame.
>zoomers and normies only care about 3+
yeah, we know
>we
Who?
You seem to be fricking lost. This is Cinemaphile.
if you don't play games you don't have any say in game adaptations, simple as
Firstly, if that were true Netflix wouldn't be being boycotted into oblivion.
Secondly you DON'T play the games. You HATE the games. That's your whole fricking point. That's what you're in this thread to do - hate on Bethesda.
But this is a Cinemaphile thread, not a Cinemaphile thread, you're supposed to be hating on Amazon because they're going to woke the frick out of it.
i have enough hate to spare, it's the current year after all
And you can do that on Cinemaphile where presumably dumb frick opinions like yours don't get immediately called out for being a symptom of untreated homosexualry.
Idris Elba.
>That makes them, objectively, the best single player games ever made
play THIS
>you just hate it because it's popular
the ultimate consoomer cope,
fallout 4 was better than some other games, but in context of fallout series it's an utter piece of shit.
In the context of the fallout series IT IS the fallout series. The majority of people who played any fallout at all played fallout 4 and they played the frick out of it.
Your dumb text adventure from the 90s doesn't rate.
What were the last 3 movies you paid to see?
it is as much a part of fallout series as sequel trilogy is a part of star wars or rings of power a part of the lord of the rings
Different author, different vision, different direction, so basically nothing but name connets them.
interstellar. that recent movie about ww1 and the lioghthouse
No it isn't. It's literally the last good game Bethesda made which is why it made a frickton of money.
>Nolanshit, 1917, and unironically A24
Like I said you're just a fricking hipster. Those are the movie choices for people who post their taste in "cinema" on instagram.
No one will ever be impressed by your detailed explanation for why you don't like Fallout 4.
bethesda has never made a good game
The billion dollars that paid for Fallout 4 disagrees with you.
And to be clear only the opinion of that billion dollars should matter. They paid for it, it's theirs.
now you are openly trolling
shoveling cash does not a good game make, canaanite
like all the previous games it had
>shit writing
>shit voice acting
>shit graphics
let's just say it was just shit
but of course, you're bound to defend anything your tribesmen shit out
Making a good game earns you cash.
Bethesda made a lot of cash with Fallout 4 because it's a good game.
look at you, defending their bullshit
nd fallout isn't good
the shitty voice acting alone disqualifies it
it's merely passable
A billion dollars disagrees with you.
That billion dollars gets it's opinion heard.
You don't.
just because lemmings blindly shove their cash at it doesn't make it a good game you fricking "jew"
Yes it does. That's exactly what it means.
People don't shove their cash at things they don't like, and the purpose of art is to be liked.
And I'm not israeli.
>the purpose of art is to be liked
the absolute state
Give me an alternative purpose to art.
not "alternative" but the main one, what is, as everyone but you moronic zoomer knows, is to convey expirience(s), thoughts and ideas, or depict something in a cerain manner with a certain purpose or no purpose at all but demonstration.
you can fit "Fun" somewhere in there, but it is far from the main point you hedonistic simple minded twat
>demonstration
To whom?
Again one answer and that is the audience.
The purpose of art is to demonstrate [something] to the audience.
The quality of that art is how well that [something] is demonstrated and the value of that art is how much the audience enjoyed the demonstration.
The [something] doesn't have to be "fun" though it often is because people like fun.
But the judge of art is always the audience, if they like it, it is good.
And in capitalism we can measure that because they'll pay for it.
Don't like capitalism? Go play Tetris, literally the ONLY thing in pop culture not produced in a capitalist country.
the amount of logical humps you made is absurd
just demonstrating something to the audience is the basicx purpose that is almoust never given to works of art, it is for the most part not the purpose itself but it's servant, the quality of art is measured by how well and coherent it demonstrates what it tries to demonstrate, how well it delivers a certain feeling or explores the subjects, and this is a separate question depending on what exactly the particular art piece did for different measurements are used for different art.
Even if purpose of particular piece is to be entertaining methods it can still be measured
the rest of your bullshit is just
>art is sibjective
what is bullshit for degenerates, and you dare to call me a commie after that.
>Sophistry and obfuscation
>the quality of art is measured by how well and coherent it demonstrates
To who?
>how well it delivers a certain feeling
To who
>or explores the subjects
For what purpose?
> different measurements are used for different art.
Like what?
Art IS subjective. The only OBJECTIVE measure is its market value which is itself merely the will of the participants in the market based on their subjective valuation of the art.
It's literally fricking axiomatic. There are NO alternatives. No matter which way you slice it the value of art is determined ENTIRELY on the effect it has on the audience. Struggle, whinge, experiment, rebel, pray for God himself to make it not so, it will ALWAYS come back to the relationship between the art and the experiencer of the art.
It is natural law.
to whom can appriciate it, number of those people is irrelevant
and objective quality can be measured in different ways, to example if the art piece is a story, it can be measure how logically coherent it is, it is irrelevant to emotions of the audience.
>number of those people is irrelevant
Incorrect, the number must greater than or equal to 1.
>and objective quality can be measured in different ways,
And no it can't. Because whether something is logically coherent or not is ENTIRELY up the judgement of the audience.
I didn't say emotions. I said judgement.
You can think the rest through on your own, I've got nothing new to say, you'll can take both sides of the argument and you'll eventually see the truth.
>art
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>I'm israeli
How are that easy to spot?
>i'll defend my tribe to the death, even if it means accusing my enemies of exactly what iam
you appealed to taste of the masses in every fricking post, yet act like it is i who craves some sort of recognition and wants to impress someone.
Just admit that the game you like is shit, you insecure homosexual, i enjoyed some shitty games in my life too.
And of course i visit theaters only for special movies, why would i go somewhere and pay to watch some conventionally directed, boring predictable shit
If I like it, it's not shit.
>A24
>special
It's literally low effort trash made exclusively to trick wankers into thinking low effort trash is actually artistic. Conventionally directed, boring and predictable is what they do you wanker.
Jesus Christ you probably watch shit that gets nominated for Oscars just because they've been nominated for Oscars.
If I like it, it is good. True for films, true for video games, true for literally every form of art. The purpose of art is to be enjoyed, the purpose of your opinions is to impress people which is the single stupidest thing you can try to do on an anonymous imageboard. We don't know who you are, we cannot possibly form an opinion about you personally about what you claim to like.
On every level you are a homosexual.
go back to redd*t with your shit takes you insecure normie moron
No this is MY house. You're the fricking tourist that wants his updoots by saying the thing you think everyone wants to hear.
Like you'd fricking know.
Holy fricking shit kid. You can't drag Tolkien into this. Rings of power might be good, or even great, but it will never be lore or cannon. Not even Christopher Tolkien can add to middle earth lore, all adaptions not written by J.R.R are just fan fic.
>Rings of power might be good, or even great
Nah.
Everything else you said was correct.
But it's going to be shit.
If they wanted to do it properly they would have. But they wanted to do diversity casting which means they didn't want to do it properly. 0% it's good, watch only if you like having shit rubbed in your eyes.
that was the point i made
No it wasn't. You don't understand the point
made. Because you're new here.
>Fallout 1 and 2
literally one of the most popular games of its times
It's times were the 90s.
They don't even compare to the popularity of Skyrim.
i mean yeah, but i wouldn't call them "hipster", they are still well remembered by boomers
Yeah look maybe, I'm certainly part of the group that didn't hate the Warcraft movie because I actually played Warcraft 1&2, but there's no doubt the movie did poorly in part because most people only experienced warcraft from War3.exe onwards (amongst many other factors).
But with Fallout there's even less reasons to give fricks about what those who played the originals think because Fallout can always move to a new location and tell a completely different story without retconning anything.
Vaults are a science experiment, FEV virus, no microchips, like as long as the basic rules of the universe are there there no reason to do anything involving the NCR.
That said, the odds that they don't turn the BOS into unironic antivaxxer nazis just to make them the whipping boys for the writer's personal politics is pretty much zilch. The people in charge of making this show aren't capable of understanding that the BOS watched their world burn in nuclear fire and believe the power of technology needs to be kept out of irresponsible hands, no they'll just be cartoon republicans as per usual.
The word you zoomer morons are looking for is retro.
It's called homosexualry. And you're called a homosexual.
You forgot
>long winded dialogues that go nowhere because the budget is spent on some other shit
>characters are still underdeveloped
>ghouls and super mutans will be everywhere as fodder enemies instead of raiders because MUH ZOMBIES AND MONSTERS
>the plot will have a jaded older man who rescues/escorts a young child
probably that
jesus, same thing every fricking time
i prey to god there will be no romance
there will be and you know 90% of it will be pure homosexualry
and i'm being generous here
and none of it will be good, just passable
just enough to part the morons ITT from their shekels andlaugh all the way to the back
and they will suck toddlers howards dick for like you won't believe
you heard it here, probably not for the first time
>i prey to god there will be no romance
might as well as them not to make the show
WHOR
WHOR NEVA EENDS
goggins is based and the video games didn't exactly have the best stories or characters so there's nothing to frick up there, it's not like you're comparing this to good source material like LOTR or ASOIAF, or even mediocre source material like WOT or Witcher. really they should not frick this up. probably will, though.
so what can we count on seeing in this shitshow?
>brotherhood
>enclave
>super mutants
>bottle caps
>super duper mart
>vaults
>ghouls (as generic zombies)
>dog companion
>another east coast setting?
just listing things that seem to be in every bethesda fallout game regardless of it makes any sense or not
i know who will be Enclave presedent and you know it too
Also i bet brotherhood's elder is a woman
Giving John Henry Eden a Trumpian flare could be pretty based
Super Duper Mart is 100% confirmed, there are pictures from a set they built of one
it's going to be fallout 3 in series form and you know it
Ghoul rights activism
#notallsupermutants
THREE DAWG BOW WOW
Frick off you fricking shill holy shit.
Amazon is fricking dogshit
Bethesda is fricking dogshit, they have not made a good game after morrowind, kys.
they made far harbor, but in general you are right
No thanks I'm boycotting all streaming services until they stop hiring blacks and women.
>lads
You have to go back
Babbies first shill thread huh?
>Developed by Lisa Joy, Jonathan Nolan
>Written by Lisa Joy, Jonathan Nolan
lol
>seems
>seems
you are such a sad pathetic loser
it will be no kino because they will press their political shit into it (muh evil whites, muh strong women, muh we wuz good people n shiiiieeeet)
even walton won't be able to save this woke-ass shitshow
i mean, the man's a fantastic actor, but they involved toddler howard, so it's DOA
Who will play Dogmeat?
How hard are they going to butcher the enclave and how wrong are they going to be on the nature of the brotherhood of steel being hoarding c**ts?
Get Michael Dorn to voice a super mutant
Yes please. Would not write the show off immediately if that happened.
it's going to suck so bad we're going to have shitpost material to last years
Boyd Crowder as the PC?
That sounds like a fun as frick playthrough in any non-bethsoft fallout.
Fallout is already dead and washed over. All the brainwashed children have no idea that Fallout 1 exists. Just let it die.
>ITT - Plebs with short memories and homeschooled /misc/tard chuds who are too soulless to actually watch things and have opinions about them.
Beth has made cinema before, and it was killer
They have also crafted some trailers that were so great that they were art. Like the 11.11.11 announcement trailer with Max Von sydow.
They said for a long time they didn't really want to get into film or TV, so if they've decided to do it, they will do it well. Probably only the blade runner and LOTR series are as exciting as this.
Bethesda isn't making this, Amazon just bought the licence. Exactly like they did with Lord of the Rangz.
bethesda and amazon is like shit and piss entering alliance
Well fricking obviously. That's why Beth never did it, they are game designers, that's where their interests lie, and what they are good at. I don't think anyone except a few 600lb permavigins ITT want to see them stop making games and start focusing on film.
Point is, Beth are a money printing machine, and do not need to do this, so the fact that they are doing it suggests they are confident it will be something they stand behind that will represent the franchise well.
>I don't think anyone except a few 600lb permavigins ITT want to see them stop making games and start focusing on film.
600lb permavirgin speaking, I don't want that. I want them to make Skyrim 2.
> the fact that they are doing it suggests they are confident it will be something they stand behind that will represent the franchise well.
OR, Amazon paid them a frickton of money, they don't know that Amazon has a track record of pissing off Bethesda's customers because they're located in California where people pretend to like wokeshit, and they like money.
Yea and the bungie Halo promos were great too, so what
>East Coast
FRICK YES. None of the awful obsidian shit that makes zero logical sense when you think about it for five minutes
this pic is beyond moronic, brotherhood and enclave were unsustainable and thus lost in all out war with a literal nation
motor runners never "won" ncr was just too busy to go after them
anon one paladin would kill a battalion of ncr homosexuals and there is nothing they could do. squad of them would just go straight through to presidents office and kick him to death
you sound like someone who thinks tank is the ultimate weapon
there are plenty of weapons and tactics ncr could use with their resourses and numbers
>resourses
they dont have resources. with brahmin supply lines you are completely unable to concentrate firepower. and comparing tank and power armor is moronic.
numbers wont help you becasue again. you are unable to concentrate them
but it seems like they did, helios was described as a large battle
You think power armor can tank falmers, rocket launchers and A-T rifles?
yes. yes it can. helios is nulore nonsense. dont argue with it if its the point of contention
This show's not for you chud. It's way too #triggering for alt snowflakes. It contains complex adult themes like black people existing, and other non white Anglo Saxon content. It may even contain other types of evil Muh israelites! propaganda like gay thoughts, strong females, gender ambiguity, or socialised medicine.
How bout you rewatch your Last Man Standing boxset again? Or perhaps a nice Gary Sinise film festival with your trad waifu? Good clean conservative fun. Maybe even a little pureflix and chill with your mom? You might even get lucky eh? Hahaha!
>BROS ITS TOTALLY GONNA BE KINO WINO!!! I KNOW WITCHER AND RESIDENT EVIL AND EVERY OTHER THING NETFLIX HAS EVER PRODUCED HAS BEEN COMPLETE SHIT BUT YOU GOTTA BELIEVE ME BROS! WE GOTTA SUPPORT MORE GAMER KINO LUDO! PLEASE DONT PIRATE AND GET THE SUBSCRIPTION. GET HYYYYYYYYPE!!!!!
you done?
it's amazon but you are still right
>ITT - Nostalgia gays and commie morons that hates bethesda because fallout 76
There is only 2 good fallout game in existence Fallout 1 and fallout 3. If you use your 1 braincell you can see how shit fallout new vegas is
>low quality bait.
fallout 2 is just fallout 1 but worse.
>Hey we just killed the mutant cyborg guy what should we do?
>Hmmmm lets add nazis
and new vegas factions so fricking bad also story doesn't make any sense
enclave comes logically from fallout's lore, you fricking moron, when playing fallout 1 for first time i was surprised that something like this wasn't there.
When sequel came out and it all made sense
>fallout's lore
what lore in FO1 dictates existence of enclave?
it dosent deny the possibility of it existing and lays of a groundwork by demonstration communities and enteties taking root pre-war and establishing america as fascist militaristic country run by republican deep state
>it dosent deny the possibility
lol. you sound like hall of coast affirmer
>I want to turn everyone into mutant
second game
>we want to kill everyone in wasteland and settle pure humans in wasteland
yeah fallout lore that includes enclave happened after fallout 2 you absolute fricking moron
america established itself as something that can form enclave in the fist game
yeah new vegas trannies are so proud of their shitty game but the truth is thats only a tiny bit better than 3.
FO2 makes no sense either. and it started the trend of vualts being social experiment
Fallout 3 is absolute kino, and I'm tired of pretending it's not.
I'd call it the perfect Fallout game, tbh.
I want to go back to the capitol wasteland but I legit have put over a thousand hours into that game
I've put 4500 hours into Fallout 3 and 9000+ hours into Oblivion, been playing them both since release.
And I'm talking vanilla here, not a single mod.
i'am not even trying to insult you but it seem bethesda is really popular with people who love mindless gameplay and don't need actual content to have fun
You've obviously never played either Fallout 3 or Oblivion if you feel they're mindless fun without content.
You clearly started with Skyrim and Fallout 4, and being underage I'm surprised you even find them garbage but kudos for recognizing how shallow and shit they both are.
lol fallout 3 is the definition of mindless content. oblivion isnt that bad, but has lot of pointless stupid choirs
>lol fallout 3 is the definition of mindless content.
You've clearly never played it.
FO3 began the "follow the arrow" mechanic. mindless nonsense for morons
That was literally in Morrowind. Frick, even Arena and Daggerfall had on-screen compasses.
>That was literally in Morrowind.
no it wasnt
Yeah it literally was, idiot. You've clearly never played it.
no it wasnt you. why the frick do you schizo creep think people come here to discuss what they have not played?
so is there a quest arrow in morrowind or not?
yes indeed
i'm ashamed i ever played these lame ass games
they had the community because it were ok games to mod, could've just as well turned into another r*
but the shitty VA kills it all for me
if only they would fix that, the jank and drop their shitty engine all would be well
but nope, toddler howard thinks he's the man
starfield will prove him wrong
of course, it'll sell like hotcakes because this world is full of morons
i'm not even going to pretend to understand it
it has like 10-15 quests and most of them involve shooting
i 100% this fricking game back in the day i fricking know it
all bethesda games are lukewarm dogshit that are LUCKY to have the modding communtiy they have
without it, they wouldn't even exist anymore
Yeah kinda. But they have (or rather had) the modding community for a reason.
Skyrim is like 15 years old now IIRC, and it still looks like a new release game because of the modding community, better in fact since most new release games are just Unity engine garbage. They fricked up BIG with Fallout 76 and microtransactions.
>odding community for a reason.
because of morrowind and easy tools?
I'd say mostly for the easy tools, but nobody else did that except maybe Maxis with The Sims.
The closest competitor to Skyrim was The Witcher 3, and it has nowhere near the modding community, and certainly not the colleective hours played that Skyrim does. That's the game you play because you loved Skyrim but are looking for something a bit different.
So credit where credit is due, that's Bethesda's win.
how big is blizzard mod comunity in comparsion? that one was big af. I didnt even know witcher had a modding community lol
>how big is blizzard mod comunity in comparsion?
None. Pathetic.
The first non-Bethesda game by mods produced is Stardew Valley. The top TWO are both skyrim.
lol who would make mods for cringepunk 77. but could blizzard be none esxistant due its integration into battlenet?
You realize half the skyrim mods aren't even on that site because they invariably involve turning your character into a Futa right?
You fricking /misc/shitting israelites are not part of this community, you're posers and everyone knows it but we can't actually force you to leave.
what community? i have no idea about mods. i was havin polite discussion with some anon about modding popularity
Dude i dont even know what kind of games blizzard makes, why reply to me?
>troony valley has more mods than clownpunk
it has a little bit of mediocre content, and the fact that you stayed that long after it was over with clearly shows it wasnt the thing you liked this game for.
dam son, I have never played oblivion. I don't know why either.
dont. its not worth it
I often forget all you fricks are nerds and geeks but fallout 4 is ok, story is shit though. and we all know the show will be pozzed somehow ffs lets just swallow that pill now so it doesn't hurt so bad when it happens.
>story is shit though
I thought the story was fine. It's weird that you're all like
>MUH SOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNN
And then basically conquer the entire commonwealth before EVENTUALLY getting around to saving him. But the BOS and Minutemen endings were kino.
I chose minutemen but I just didn't like the character. and what they did to the brotherhood was stupid made them feel moronic. maxson just felt dumb
>I didn't activate liberty prime to watch it go ham on the commie Enclave
NGMI.
I did, Im talking fallout 4 dick hole
>He doesn't even know Liberty Prime is in Fallout 4
See you in a few hours bro.
I know he is you have to piece him together homosexual baiter
liberty prime was so moronic, and they used him twice in literally the same manner but worse, i hate bethesda
not as stupid as the android superfactory with super teleporter in FO4. makes my blood boil.
true
>bethesdashit
>fallout
lol, lmao even
>I don't like Fallout because I'm a homosexual
Heard you the first billion times. Why can't you hear me when I tell you your opinion is actually worthless.
Not worthless to me personally.
Just worthless.
>we're israelites
Just go away. Go to
, troll the shit out of some boomers, you'll have fun. You don't belong here.
Calm your breasts, schizo
>We're israelites
Stop repeating yourselves.
There are exactly two of you, you're the same homosexuals shitting up every capeshit thread and every anime thread.
>capeshit thread and every anime thread
well not every single one...
anon this mutch seething aint healthy. and yes, every fallout after FO1 is bad. especialy the one you like the most
Why don't you just say you don't like Fallout and leave the thread like a normal moron?
Video game adaptation will always be dogshit.
The whole point of Fallout is doing whatever the frick you want and it affecting the part of the world you're in.
It doesn't really work as a show.
They can make it. It can have dust and broken highways, but it's just going to be internal area shots for everything after the pilot.
>The whole point of Fallout is doing whatever the frick you want and it affecting the part of the world you're in.
do bethesda drones really believe that? FO1 was a story. parts were optional, but it was a story
Besides the fact that you know damn well everyone is referring to 3, NV, and 4, you can do whatever you want in FO1 too.
You're supposed to explore and find these weird parts of the post apocalypse and a show can't do that.
You're supposed to railway spike gun people's heads to walls and take their shit.
You're supposed to find escaped slaves and sell them.
You're supposed to become a walking explosion.
You're supposed to find that chick that's REALLY into Nuka-Cola.
You're supposed to play with nuclear weapons platforms.
So unless the show has you nuking a caravan, just so you can sell their stuff so you can buy more nukes, it's not going to be all that great.
you can do whatever you want in taking part of the story. but its not like FO1 aimed at being a GTA where you can do random shit like fly with a glider.
Its completely different kind of doing what you want.
I would say it would be possible to turn FO1 into linear story, but if it is amazon making it then lol
>You're supposed to explore and find these weird parts of the post apocalypse and a show can't do that.
Never watched The Walking Dead, I take it, particularly the early seasons...
>You're supposed to railway spike gun people's heads to walls and take their shit.
Show can easily show that too.
>You're supposed to find escaped slaves and sell them.
Show can show that.
>You're supposed to become a walking explosion.
Show can show that
>You're supposed to find that chick that's REALLY into Nuka-Cola.
Show can show that
>You're supposed to play with nuclear weapons platforms.
Show WILL show that
>So unless the show has you nuking a caravan, just so you can sell their stuff so you can buy more nukes, it's not going to be all that great.
I don't think you understand how TV works, do you?
>hi do you know where could i find waterchip? oh well, nevermind, i'll just try searching in a different place
>repeat 20 times
i'll admit it's still miles better than bethesda's "stories"
It's just gonna be westworld season 3 wasteland
I only got hope for this shit because of practical stuff instead of CGI
can't wait to see all the gays and trannies repopulating the earth
>Goggins has confirmed that he will play a radiation-infused being called a ghoul
I'm already disappointed
>what if a southern racist, but in space
yeah, nah
tv show about kenshi would be even more kino
It'll probably be pretty good. I know some people are cynical about it and that's good, but honestly I'm pretty optimistic. The sets and costumes look like they're 3D printed straight out of Fallout 4, figuratively speaking of course. If they get the aesthetics right and don't make the story completely moronic, it should be decent supplementary material to the games.
>I'm pretty optimistic
why? what show recently gave you a reason to be
LOST
>kino aesthetics
>kino 50s soundtrack
>kino violence and gore
>kino cast (Goggins and MacLachlan)
Yep, this shit is looking like the real deal.
Who gonna play the now inevitable black lesbian in this one?
>Jonah Nolan and Lisa Joy
It's over
You mean Jonathan Nolan.
Person of Interest was kino.
YOU KNOW WHATS WORST THAN A GHOUL ????
I think it'll be pretty honestly for the same reason fallout is. The 60s era influence on design and culture combined with post apocalypse is just good. It's a good world building base. Fallout has wacky TV logic anyways for it's world. Like how radiation works,.energy weapons etc. It's got all the makings of a cult sci-fi TV show
at least try to make your post look organic
???? Shits just facts. Plenty of shows have cult followings because how they mash up styles.
It'll hit a market and be popular. The fallout universe gives it a good base while still being grounded in the real world people can relate with unlike other games.
Fallouts design is much more friendly for the TV audience and market than say Halo.
It's the 50s, you moron. Fallout timeline forked off in the 50s and remained in cultural homeostasis despite experiencing much greater science and technological advancement.
No moron. In the fallout timeline they never invented the semi-conductor.
they have, but it was like 3 years before the big war.
I meant to type 50s-60s. There's still a decent amount of references to early 60s in all the fallout games.
Christ I would love more than anything else in the world to lick the top of Walton Goggins' forehead. Not a long, sexually charged lick you understand, just a quick dab of the tongue, right at the hairline.
They should have Patrick Wilson in it, him and goggins are actually just kino machines
I'm stuck at an airfoirce base with no fricking bullets
just hth them bro
Well I took my geiger and I started to climb
Right up to the top where I thought I'd find
A hunk of rock that would make it click
Just like I'd read about vernon pick
On the second day, I made the top
And I'm tellin' you, steve, I was ready to stop
The only clickin' that I heard that day
Was the bones in my back that had gone astray
Man, Amazon has really invested in high quality shills these days.
Could it be that you are just out of touch?
Nope.
>This could actually be quite kino, lads.
It could've been... but not in 2022.
The new Sheriff of Primm
>it starts in a vault so the audience can self insert as the main character leaving it for the first time to see the new world out there
anime Isekai tier garbage
>Resident Evil
>Halo
>The Witcher
There isn't a single modern live-action video game inspired show I can think of that wasn't hated by the game's fans. Zero reason to think this will be different.
witcer is book series first but book fans hate the show even more so yeah
book fans hate the books too
well first one was mostly nice
lady of the lake and tower one were horrible tho. killed the whole saga
Fallout Tactics is the only good Fallout game
Hey cool thread cap.
Great thread guys, I actually enjoyed the non-israeli bits.
OP here, you’re welcome. Also, I’m israeli.
so are there quest arrows in morrowind?
Yeah, but also no
Stop replying to money obessed normie homosexual already
he will never stop seething about the concept of objective quality because he feels bad about liking mediocre products