>film has no political message, social commentary, moral or profound meaning
>it's just a fun creative film to sit back and enjoy
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>film has no political message, social commentary, moral or profound meaning
I enjoy political messages, social commentary, morals and profound meanings
I enjoy political messaging, social commentary, and moral or profound meanings when they align entirely with my views.
Are you 10 years old
>No political message
Literally impossible. Name one.
The Naked Gun
Paints police as well-meaning.
Bait.
What merit can there be if a film has nothing to say?
>What merit can there be if a film has nothing to say?
What merit is there in a well executed fight scene?
There can be technical merit if the scene has particularly skillful camerawork or choreography. Of course it's impossible to say what the political message of "a fight scene" is without knowing the context of the scene and how it fits into the wider film.
>There can be technical merit
So there is merit. Thanks for the concession.
>What merit can there be if a film has nothing to say?
Doesn't that answer your question? What if you are explicitly looking for something unsophisticated or simple as a form of escapism or entertainment? Do you disregard all non-satirical comedy?
>Bait
How is Totoro bait? It's the only apolitical Ghibli movie. It's literally just about kids fricking around in their new house and having their imaginations run wild in their backyard.
>What if you are explicitly looking for something unsophisticated or simple as a form of escapism or entertainment?
Typically I just have someone jangle a set of keys in front of my face when I want that.
Technical merit is not artistic merit, the merit under discussion in our conversation. Please learn to follow a basic thread of conversation.
What is the political commentary behind the Mona Lisa? It's just a well-drawn painting, therefore it has no artistic merit, only technical merit. That is how stupid you sound.
I must have missed the film adaptation of the Mona Lisa. moron.
It was Dunstkino
i want to breed every single one of these women. what a top tier cast.
So you agree the Mona Lisa has no artistic merit then? OK.
So you agree that Herbert Hoover was a good president? OK.
>Typically I just have someone jangle a set of keys in front of my face when I want that.
Does somebody jangling keys make you laugh, cry, put you on the edge of your seat, or reel back in awe? Are you incapable of appreciating a classic action movie, any form of animation, or a a non-satirical comedy?
Look at Mr Art History Major who can't enjoy a good jangle.
NTA but I really only enjoy those first two for technical reasons. I watched The Matrix for the first time recently and found it to be an empty, soulless experience but the special effects were very impressive.
Funny because the Matrix is practically brimming with social commentary.
It's really dumb and surface-level.
That too. Some movies can be the visual equivalent of jangling keys.
Stopped reading the thread here. You lost, sir.
He lost the thread when he called Naked Gun and Totoro shit and said they weren't apolitical films
>Paints police as well-meaning.
You've never actually seen Naked Gun, have you?
Some people are beyond saving
Also this
Are you suggesting that there's "nothing to say" outside of political or social commentary? Art transcends those petty domains; it is true for all time.
Jesus dude go outside not everything has to be some deep political propaganda film. You need to have fun man and enjoy things
>Naked Gun
>Paints police as well-meaning.
>My Neighbor Totoro
>bait
You've seen neither of these movies
You sound like you're an extremely sad person to be around.
>What merit can there be if a film has nothing to say?
Evoking feelings of transcendence via aesthetic beauty.
Based, though Nietzsche would argue aesthetics and politics are inseparable.
There’s a sense in which that’s true, since any work of art is going to be shaped by the creator’s world view, whether the creator realizes it or not, and his political opinions are a part of his world view. But that’s not necessarily the same thing as someone consciously trying to make an explicit political statement with their art, which is what I think most people have in mind when they criticize certain works for being political.
Nordberg is suspected of being corrupt and Drebin has to solve the case to prove he's not. The possibility exists, therefore police corruption and other unacceptable conduct exists within the continuity of Police Squad. This plot point exists to up the stakes for the protagonist, not make a commentary. Drebin also considers soliciting illegal drugs for Nordberg's personal use, unprofessionally involves himself in a relationship with a potential witness close to the main suspect, searches property without a warrant, assaults innocent members of the public to acquire disguises, doesn't report his involvement in vehicular incidents, and takes a vacation just to fight foreign bogeymen. That last one is the closest you can get to TNG doing politics, and none of the targets are treated worse than the same slapstick the good guys get.
My Neighbor Totoro
>written and directed by hayao miyazaki, a virulently anti american scumbag
nope, it's definitely political.
Going by this logic everything ever made is political because all the people who make films have their own political beliefs.
You see, this is why Metal Gear Solid, despite being an ostensibly political series, is actually not, because Kojima holds no real political beliefs.
Kojima has a thing for trannies, that's a political statement regarding sexuality. But other than that I'd agree. It's very much an irony similar to Junji Ito of him being the nicest most pleasant guy ever who makes the most revolting nasty shit.
Totoro is pure vibe. Of course if you want you can claim it is "anti war" or something but it really is just an honest-to-god kid's movie in its purest form.
>missing the rural = le good and city = bugman commentary
Even though they are moving to the country the movie is never framed that way like the other Ghibli movies. The Dad still works in the city at a university and the Mom gets her treatment there. It never says anything about agrarianism vs. urbanism like the other Ghibli movies.
But why does this picture exist
I spent the weekend watching Ghibli movies and drinking liquor late at night while I was at a family reunion at my Grandpa's cabin in Northern Minnesota.
Sex Drive
You could argue it's anti-racist given the characterization of Buford T. Justice and the exchange he has with the sheriff.
Also in general it's about police corruption and pettiness in the South, even if it's done so in very silly fashion.
No.
Either way, it's an incredibly comfy, very funny movie that has aged surprisingly well despite being very of it's time. I was pleasantly surprised watching it last year.
It's a man's movie, bro.
Directed by:
Hal Needham, arguably the greatest stuntman of all time.
Starring:
Burt Reynolds, who had his D1 football career ended by a high speed car wreck because he really was The Bandit.
Jackie Gleason, who once fought heavyweight contender "Two Ton" Tony Galento for heckling him during his standup act.
I think the fact that everybody was drunk and pissed off while making it really gives it a ton of character and energy that you don't really see in recent movies, especially comedies. From what I hear the production was largely ad-libbed for nearly every scene, and it really pays off given the madcap tone of the movie.
The Fifth Element
Literally any David Lynch film. You're midwit as frick btw.
>FWWM
>Story about how deep evil is lurking beneath the white picket fences of the American dream
>Not political
What are you on about? Twin Peaks is supposed to be set in a dilapidated deindustiralizing area.
But generally yes, David Lynch movies/stuff are apolitical and even he himself hates politics. Especially The Straight Story, it's one of the most soulful, pleasant movies ever made.
Kingdom of the Planet of The Apes
Monkey Man
Godzilla vs Kong
Beekeeper
Society of the Snow
Evil Dead
127 Hours
Encino Man
Bill and Ted
Hot Tub Time Machine
Peanuts
Puss in Boots 1 & 2
Shrek
The Mummy (1999)
Too feminist
Tremors
Captain Ron
uhmm actually you just didn't get it because it's 100% political
supporting my worldview of course 🙂
>film has no political message, social commentary, moral or profound meaning
>it's also unfunny, uncreative and unenjoyable
That's anime. You're literally talking about anime. israelitewood films like that don't exist anymore.
>Anime has zero (0) artistic merit or reason to watch
I agree.
>all artistic merit is derived from political or social commentary
Holy reddit.
>t. phd in media literacy
Christ, imagine being such a redditor you REQUIRE something to have politics in it for you to even consider watching it.
If it doesn't have minorities and trannies I refuse to watch it
Whatever floats your boat, israelitebro.
They do but they can be hard to find
Pseud alert
All the critically acclaimed greatest anime films of all time are political or social or have morals
>muh critically acclaimed
Doesn't mean jack shit. Look at OP again.
>anime
i couldnt watch anime past the age of 16
And? I stopped watching capeshit after I turned 14.
So one more year until you stop watching it?
That's still 5 more years than when you stop watching anime then.
MODS this anon is 13
Least I'm not a capeshitter like you.
*doesn't exist in your path*
i enjoy whatever is good
porn movie?
Schindler's List and Come and See
I prefer Schindler's Fist
This is why Pokémon has stood the test of time and is still the highest grossing media franchise of all time. Because pokemon refused to grow up with its fan base. It's just a kid catching weird creatures and fighting them
>film has black character
>he never makes a remark about white people
>movies like this were routinely made not even 30 years ago
You guys were spoiled
Did Finn make any comments about white people in Star Wars episodes 7 through 9?
Finn being Black was never the problem with those movies; the issue with those movies is the shitty feminism that made him such a lame and sidelined character.
Also MIB is an actually good movie unlike those three lol.
>Finn being Black was never the problem with those movies
I accept that you may believe this but this is not a popular opinion on this board. I remember when the first trailer dropped.
That's largely just for joke's sake and a part of the board's culture.
Black folk have been canon in Star Wars ever since the OT, and it actually makes sense for his character given he was a janny doing menial shit behind the lines during his service in the Empire.
>capitalizing black
you are, in fact, a Black person.
Triggered snowflake
"White people" aren't really a thing in a universe where you got crazy looking aliens and shit.
Who has the pasta?
>movie set between 40s-60s
>contains shoehorned scene of a woman or black character getting harassed
>adds nothing to the plot and only serves to remind the audience that this was the dark ages and you’re le problematic if you have a positive opinion of it
Don't forget israelites, they do that in movies too
It’s so funny to see this getting posted on Cinemaphile, the site where literally every single thing becomes a culture war bullshit issue talking about politics, race, sexuality, a few years ago always talking about Covid related topics, etc.
«MOVIES» ARE ARTIFACTS; ALL ARTIFACTS HAVE A POLITICAL MESSAGE, CONVEY SOCIAL COMMENTARY, AND HAVE MORAL SIGNIFICANCE, WHETHER IMPLICITLY, OR EXPLICITLY.
>The Supreme Court says if you're under 18 you can not see this film... If you are over 18 you can not miss it!
I've been so bored of my girlfriend for like a year. I need to break up with her lol
HUNDREDS OF BEAVERS
FUNNIEST MOVIE EVER MADE
I don't care about political messages or social commentaries, even when they completely clash with my worldview, as long as they are subtle, nuanced and expressed in a clever way.
great cinema has always been political, but everything is so ham-fisted these days.
>great cinema has always been political
it hasn't
It's always been political, just not woke.
There are no films like this really. Even silly comedies like Mouse Hunt, Pirates of the Caribbean, Minority Report, Twiins, Robocop, hell even Predator have some sort of moral and ethical message. You can't really tell a story without them.
I'm about to watch some non-political slashers with the boys at v4c.fun
I like old politics like Womans Lib and bra burning
>I like women who are hairy abrasive ugly buttholes who hate me
That's not how it was.
>boomers think girls that look like junkies that have been out in the sun too long are the divine feminine
I hate you fricks so much it's unreal, you guys singlehandedly destroyed beauty standards for all of mankind forever.
Boomers are in zero position to lecture us about women lmao
Give me some good recent (2020 or later) movies to watch
Top Gun: Maverick
Dream Scenario
Boy And The Heron
The DUNCs
Godzilla Minus One
Drive My Car
Suzume
Pig
>Dream Scenario
what's this, haven't heard of it
Pig is the Nic Cage one right?
Yes.
It's a Nicholas Cage movie that I would argue is the best satire of the internet made so far.
I have test, that's why I don't want every womsn to be some shade of bawd or autist.
Pic.
What a gay thing to say, have your test checked.