Films that tricked you into liking them with impressive visuals

I'll start

Fury Road had some of the best action sequences of the past decade, but the underlying script is incredibly stupid and makes no sense.
The "social commentary" in the film is dumb and upon further scrutiny, actually makes the "girl boss" characters look dumb and pathetic.

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Film is a visual art form, dipshit. If there's one thing a film is supposed to deliver, it's excellent visuals. What you're saying is the equivalent of "Singers you got tricked into listening to just because they had an impressive voice".

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Enjoy your feminist propaganda then, lmao

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The "social commentary" in the film is dumb and upon further scrutiny, actually makes the "girl boss" characters look dumb and pathetic.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You forget that the vast majority of the population isn't intelligent enough to understand things on that level.
          They still think Furiosa is a "bad ass", even though she only wins because all of her opponents are dumb and don't understand how cars work.
          >Throws bombs at the hood of the truck instead of the radiator.
          >Throw spikes at the side of the car instead of the tires
          >Try to cut the cab instead of the tires or engine

          Lmfao

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Peak midwit film analysis.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the girl boss character that fails at every instance and is always outsmarted, and her grand plan completely fails, and needs a male to give her a new plan, and gets injured and is completely useless in the final fight?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            A character can incarnate a trope and, at the same time, be undermined by the narrative.
            For example you can have a flawed character that is still a mary sue through and through because the narrative doesn't treat those flaws as flaws.
            Just saying

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah that what she was thought and ended up being in FR. This not a girl boss is shill shit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. They could've cut every line of dialogue from Fury Road and it still would've been a fine movie.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >still
        standards have dropped so fricking far. Its no wonder that film studios dont even try any more. You morons will slurp it up anyways.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The only way to watch Fury Road is with the sound off and heavy metal music playing from separate speakers.
        No subtitles either.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >If there's one thing a film is supposed to deliver, it's excellent visuals
      t. average adhd zoom zoom

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Go read a book pseud

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So if I hired Robby Müller back in 985 to film my butthole taking a massive shit on a woman’s head in a room of a roadside motel for an 1 and a half, it would be an excellent film because it would look good?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i hate homosexuals that focus solely on only one aspect of some artform and pretend it's the only thing that matters and this applies both to "muh visuals are the only important thing, visual medium!!!!" and "this movie is a great spectacle, but the story is stupid therefore bad" morons
      same shit on Cinemaphile with people reading only for le prose or only for le message and on Cinemaphile with people playing games only for le story or le gameplay
      why can't you just appreciate different works for different things, not every movie has to focus on the same aspects of the medium
      anyway my point is that fury road is a bad movie

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If a movie doesn't have nice cinematography it might as well have been a book

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Go watch the Grand Canyon or something, homosexual

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's not that the story itself is bad, it's that Fury Road is filled with dumb feminist propaganda.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i mean it is, but the fact is that the movie can be propaganda and still be good, like the cranes are flying, or black hawk down, in fact a lot of movies are some kind of propaganda, but they are still great movies
          fury road sucks, but being propaganda is not the only reason

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >both to "muh visuals are the only important thing, visual medium!!!!"
        That's reducing the medium to only one thing
        >and "this movie is a great spectacle, but the story is stupid therefore bad"
        That's litrally the fricking opposite of caring only about one thing

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm a dumb ESL, so maybe i wasn't clear, but with the second quote I meant the "story is the only things that matters" approach, like "this movie has some great elements, but because the story is secondary and thoughtless, the whole movie is bad and not worth watching"

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >"this movie has some great elements, but because the story is secondary and thoughtless, the whole movie is bad and not worth watching"
            A sensible statement, sort of. A movie with shit visuals is at worst unable to proprerly portray story and characters, but a movie without story and characters is just a lightshow. Only porn and documentaries can get away with it.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I disagree. Maybe not "not having a story at all", just like it's hard for movie "not to have visuals at all", but very often successful movies have very basic story and characters and the focus is on something else. Action movies like Predator or Speed, comedies like Airplane! or Monty Python and the Holy Grail, horrors like Suspiria or Blair Witch Project, pretentious experimental films like Eraserhead or An Andalusian Dog, you could argue all of these movies have very shitty story and characters, but this doesn't matter at all, it's not the point of them.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Action movies like Predator or Speed
                They don't lack story at all. The story is there and works, characters are interesting and there is plenty of interesting dialogue among them.
                Unlike FR.
                Comedies like Airplane are just collection of gags and still have more characters and story than FR.
                Blair Witch builds an interesting atmosphere and has plenty of dialogue. Eraserhead is just a pretentious experimantal movi.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >A sensible statement
              No lmao.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                See

                Go watch the Grand Canyon or something, homosexual

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you actually liked the visuals then you weren't "tricked." Some people are incapable of admitting when they actually enjoyed a film.

      Yep.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What about the script doesn't make sense?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Here's an easy one.
      Immortan Joe has a fortified position and a huge Citadel with tons of food and water.
      For no reason, him and his entire crew are seen dicking around in the desert instead of returning to their military base after they lose their first chase.
      This decision gets most of them killed.
      The film basically makes Immortan Joe incredibly stupid in order for the plot to work.
      There are many examples of this.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >have a handful of unmutated, undamaged breeding wives that took you years to gather
        >durr just give them up and forget about them

        Are you moronic?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, because they stopped chasing Furiosa and the War Rig.
          If Immortan Joe and everyone was waiting for them to come back, they could've done that from a fortified position and also re-stocked their supplies.
          Alternatively, Joe could've sent out Separate War Parties to scour the desert for them.
          You know, basic military strategy?

          >This is your brain on goyslop, btw

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Immortan Joe had direct knowledge that Furiosa went unto bandit territory and if it wasn't for his war host being there, Furiosa and his wives would have been killed. You can't pretend to be this tactical genius and at the same time just say "Eh, let this extremely valuable thing you want above all else just get away. Maybe eventually you'll find it in the wasteland among the numerous tribes." If Joe kept most of his forces at the base and let his scouts locate Furiosa then odds are they would be captured by another warlord and Joe would have to bring the entirety of his forces to fight anyway. Only, if he follows your strategy he'd be days or weeks behind.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Can you watch the scene here and tell me what you think is happening?

              This is Joe preparing an ambush?

              [...]
              Anyone with even a basic grasp of knowledge knows that it's better to go back to headquarters.

              >Go ahead with the examples if you've got more, I'll try to answer them if I can.
              Immortan Joe has no reason to release water down to all the dying people below in the first place. It's like they're helping him or doing anything but being a nuisance. If he stopped providing water for 3-days they would all be dead, and then he could keep the water for himself, military, and to trade with at places like "GasTown" or the "Bullet Farm", two other places that don't make any sense in this universe.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Which scene? You're beginning to mass reply so I don't know if you mean the clip or the water scene.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This one.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Immortan Joe and his party chased Furiosa to a chokepoint which got caved in and only Joe's monster truck could quickly make it over the rubble. Joe's chase ended because his truck crashed because Joe didn't want to run over one of his brides. The scene you linked is quite a while later after the rest of his forces caught up after clearing the rubble. They are scouting for possible leads when they see Furiosa heading back to the citadel. What is your problem with this scene?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm sorry you can't understand the difference between scouting the desert landscape from an unfortified position, and scouting the desert from the top of the Citadel which has a great vantage point and all the resources they need.

                I guess in your head, Immortan Joe made all good decisions, and Furiosa is a badass who outsmarted the bad guys.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I guess in your head, Immortan Joe made all good decisions, and Furiosa is a badass who outsmarted the bad guys.

                What are you seething on about moron.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You don't understand the difference between scouting from one location and scouting from another location many miles away?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This. Also, as a leader Immortal Joe can't afford to look weak. You need to let everyone in your crew know "Betrayal will not be tolerated escape is NOT an option and attempting to do so means I will hunt you to the end and you'll never be safe".

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >him and his entire crew are seen dicking around in the desert instead of returning to their military base after they lose their first chase.
        They were preparing an ambush, they didn't expect them to literally go back on their tracks.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This is Joe preparing an ambush?

          You're assuming Joe has viewer-like omniscience and a hindsight understanding of the events, like yourself. He was chasing Furiosa until she got away, at no point did he actually know where she was trying to get to or that she would make a play on the Citadel. There's no way he could know that she would do that, because it depends on him knowing that her goal had gone up in smoke, and that would be impossible if he didn't know her goal in the first place. When you see them in the desert they could either be waiting for the bullet farmer to return word of success, or taking a rest before they continue the pursuit.

          Go ahead with the examples if you've got more, I'll try to answer them if I can.

          Anyone with even a basic grasp of knowledge knows that it's better to go back to headquarters.

          >Go ahead with the examples if you've got more, I'll try to answer them if I can.
          Immortan Joe has no reason to release water down to all the dying people below in the first place. It's like they're helping him or doing anything but being a nuisance. If he stopped providing water for 3-days they would all be dead, and then he could keep the water for himself, military, and to trade with at places like "GasTown" or the "Bullet Farm", two other places that don't make any sense in this universe.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >This is Joe preparing an ambush?
            Yes? Do you know what a sentinel is? The entire army doesn't need to stand at attention when they're preparing an ambush: plus they were probably waiting for hours at that point.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            People are drawn from all over the wasteland to the sight of the greenery they grow, and they only have one way in and out of the Citadel, which is the hoist. You can see every time they raise the hoist back up it's getting swamped by people who want in, if Joe didn't placate the masses somehow and give them a distraction to look forward to they would be much more interested in getting to the hoist and Joe would be unable to conduct operations.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Turn off the water for a few days
              >Everyone dies
              Now they can use the hoist whenever they want.

              Alternatively:
              >Trade water for resources instead of blindly handing it out. If people don't have anything to trade, then they don't get any water.
              >Create some kind of a barter economy instead of fricking nothing.

              Alternatively:
              >Use flamethrowers to clear out people below

              Alternatively:
              >Come up with a better solution than a huge multi-ton hoist that requires the labor of about 100 people to operate.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Trade water for resources instead of blindly handing it out
                They have everything they need between the cabal of the three warlords and their resource pits. There's nothing peasants could offer him.
                >Come up with a better solution than a huge multi-ton hoist
                This is what makes the fortress impregnable.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It’s a flex moron. Why did Egyptian Pharaohs build giant pyramids they didn’t need?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Joe was performing an Aborigine prayer rite for his deceased wife slave here actually.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're assuming Joe has viewer-like omniscience and a hindsight understanding of the events, like yourself. He was chasing Furiosa until she got away, at no point did he actually know where she was trying to get to or that she would make a play on the Citadel. There's no way he could know that she would do that, because it depends on him knowing that her goal had gone up in smoke, and that would be impossible if he didn't know her goal in the first place. When you see them in the desert they could either be waiting for the bullet farmer to return word of success, or taking a rest before they continue the pursuit.

        Go ahead with the examples if you've got more, I'll try to answer them if I can.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The social commentary of hoarding natural resources like water and leaving the majority of the population to starve is actually a bad thing?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's not bad at all if resources are limited and your population is made of klingons

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There's "properly distributing water every day in determined rations" and "literally let the water fall for 30 seconds in front of the people"

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          True, but don't let freedom get in the way of your survival

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is Furiosa better or worse than Fury Road?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Worse on every front, clearly

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Best action scenes, but only compared to the shit available in said decade. It's just a single, overlong, repetitive action scene that gets boring after a while.
    Also the visuals are all spattered with a godawful orange filter.
    There are no interesting dialogues, if there are dilagues at all.
    Characters are all flat with the exception of Furiosa, and only for half movie. The brides aren't a feminist remark or something, but justa mcguffin no fifferent from a bag of seeds or a mat to the green place.
    Max,a non character, was just there to justify the title. Should have been Furiosa, instead of hijacking the franchise.
    Basically nice idea, some praiseworth effort, but overall a mediocrity that only shines if your frame of reference is modern dogshit movies

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You homosexual's getting caught up on the paper thing feminist message are such pseuds. Over never looked at war boys and thought anything other than "frick yeah". The scene between Joe and Nux where he assures him that he will personally carry him to Valhalla is unironically a beautiful moment showing self-sacrifice for the sake of a higher purpose.
    >but it's le lies and manipulation
    Doesn't invalidate the sentiment or heroism.

    The women were right that it was greed and brutality that killed the world but that's just the way of the world. It's a trivial detail. You've literally just become SJWs yourself, raging over microtriggers. It's all so goddamn homosexual.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    fury road was awful. don't let it put you off watching furosia.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I enjoyed Furiosa but when it went into the credits and they showed some clips from Fury Road I thought damn I would pay double to see Fury Road in theaters again

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >lynch's dune
    costume's and set design were phenomenal. it could have been one of the greatest movies of the 80's. Instead the producer shit the bed and ruined it. the second half in particular was terrible.

    Lynch even wanted his name off the credits. it was that bad..

    .....and yet contrarian newbies still pretend it was a good movie.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a good movie, flaws and all.
      And Lynch disowned it because it was butchered by producers.
      Stop seething about it, moron

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Return of the Jedi
    It's really too bad they put Lando as a pilot in the 3rd act instead of Han. Han is wasted and has to wait on the ground in front of a giant door.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How is there still life on Earth if the oceans have dried up?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      never heard of an unreliable narrator?

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like it for the same reason I like zootopia because it tries to be woke but goes all the way back into proving trads were right all along

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Road Warrior is the only good Mad Max movie.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >girl bos

    opinion discarded. Fury Road is the textbook definiton of cinema. Stick to watching cartoons, chud.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      actually George Lucas said the textbook definition of cinema is moving pictures so cartoons are cinema too

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You need a new textbook, then, "chud"
      Watch more movies, possibly made before current era

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Andy

    Tom Hardy tricked me into liking this movie…and I ended up liking it.

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