Five reasons Primer is the ultimate time travel kino. >1. It's not the squiggle chart

Five reasons Primer is the ultimate time travel kino
>1. It's not the squiggle chart
Anyone who thinks more lines on a timeline explanation chart equals a better film is delusional
>2. The low budget helps
No big stars, no special effects, the film is set in a generic everytown. Nothing prepares the viewer for what's about to unfold.
>3. Shane Carruth and David Sullivan
They are everymen, perfect in their roles. They are engineers and they act like intelligent people. They don't insult anyone's intelligence. Relatable.
>4. Minimalist soundtrack
Relates to the budget, but the soundtrack often cues the audience what to feel. In this film, there are gaps with no soundtrack where tension rises. Brilliant!
>5. Innovation
Nobody has ever seen time travel done exactly this way.

Probably from Shane himself on Cinemaphile:
>The chart is endearing but ultimately irrelevant. Primer is about making you think you know the rules, then changing the rules. We didn't want you to make that chart, we wanted to convey that feeling that something like that chart existed, and you couldn't figure it out. For every autist who figured out that chart, there were thousands of normies who felt that thrill that the rules had been redefined. That is the ultimate victory of Primer.

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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pretentious garbage

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      what is the pretense?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        The methods of time travel are stupid even by the standards of other time travel movies, for one small thing.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Completely backwards. Every other movie is moronic when it comes to time travel. This movie is famous for being the exception.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Wrong. Time travel is only good when it's power fantasy nonsense. This is why Back to the Future and Terminator are the only good time travel movies. Everything else is mopey bullshit.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              you can suck my dick and if i dont get dubs ill be piissseedd

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >mopey

              >morons always have to work their adolescent emotions into their whiny critiques

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Well, this movie is good, so your assertion is wrong.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Wrong. Your penis is only good when it's pure fantasy nonesense. This is why your small penis and small balls are the only real time travel movie because that look like kids genitals. Everyhting else is a false bulshit

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        It insists upon itself

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous
    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >277▶

      ok but why did they both start fricking each other over?

      Time travel/time loop movies are my all time favorite genre.


      I’ve seen every single one multiple times…

      … except Primer.

      I watched Primer once and concluded it was the WORST time loop/travel movie I’ve ever seen. Boring, unsatisfying garbage that doesn’t explain a god damn thing.

      In fact, it’s probably in my top 5 worst movies of all time.
      >Five reasons Primer is the ultimate time travel kino
      i like everything about primer
      i like the idea
      i like the charicters
      i like the stunted story
      i like the mystery*also the story what the frick happend i watched that b***h twice and would struggle to explain the idea of the plot
      i liked the simplistic complexity &read above
      i liked the themes read above open to my imagination I GUESSS lmao
      i liked it all

      that being said the theme carried it
      the cinimatography is medicore albeit servicable *(read amazing for the budget

      the dialogue is passable albient enhanced &theme chads we won

      great film they struck lucky lightning

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        tldr this film should be bad but it is amazing take that however you will its a must watch

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Interstellar is my favorite movie. I am very highq

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    ok but why did they both start fricking each other over?

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Time travel/time loop movies are my all time favorite genre.
    I’ve seen every single one multiple times…

    … except Primer.

    I watched Primer once and concluded it was the WORST time loop/travel movie I’ve ever seen. Boring, unsatisfying garbage that doesn’t explain a god damn thing.

    In fact, it’s probably in my top 5 worst movies of all time.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      magnificent self-own. just a beautiful, distilled advertisement for your own stupidity

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >that doesn’t explain a god damn thing.
      found the capeshitter

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Boring
      zoom zoom

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The sets and props were the best part. Looked exactly like the actual engineering labs I've been in. No other movie has gotten this right, they're all too sleek and flashy.

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I liked Dark until the alternate reality bullshit. How else would time travel work that's literally the only realistic way.

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    it's a great little personal story
    very focused and efficient

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cool idea but terrible execution

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      wrong the execution is niche and somewhat perfect immagine another primer.... ill wait your childrens children will stop being contrarian

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Can't film any scene with 2 version of the same characters because of budget limitations

        There's a scene at night by a fountain that is super grainy and has horrendous sound

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      you cannot point to a singular great thing about primer and yet.........

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cool idea, inspired execution with next to no budget. Shane is borderline genius, too bad he's actual insane.

  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I didn't read, OP. BUT that is only because I KNOW Primer is the ultimate time travel kino and don't need any further confirmation.

    SHANE PLEASE POST

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      resoviour time travel
      its 100% certified

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    explain the significance of them stopping the ex boyfriend with the shotgun? what was the point of it? aaron seemed to be the one who cared about doing it the most, but it was abe's own girlfriend.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think Abe agreed to help him the plan because he felt bad lying to him about the box or something. They did all kinds of dumb shit, like got in the box to stop noisy kids so their future selves could sleep in.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        explain the significance of them stopping the ex boyfriend with the shotgun? what was the point of it? aaron seemed to be the one who cared about doing it the most, but it was abe's own girlfriend.

        Realistically, what else can they use the box for besides stopping crazy gunmen and making money? not a whole lot. I guess Aaron really wanted to feel like a hero for some reason.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Well Arron moves to France to make a giant box for their government or something. Using the box for military purposes would be like TENET.

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I love this movie and it's one of the top 10 I've ever seen just from the sheer inventiveness of it.
    But I can't help but assume it's reddit because people think it makes them smart if they watch it. Sort of like inception

  11. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    read 'a topiary'

    read 'a topiary'

    read 'a topiary'

    time and time again you have been promised adventure and have never found it

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I tried
      i didnt fricking get it
      so the aliens were made of tupperware discs? like wtf is going on?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        also i gave up about half way, didnt go all the way to the end
        I hope some jap incel animates it one day

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Its not a traditional alien intelligence. Its more like biology. Just how your DNA contains instructions to build increasingly complex structures, the process just scales up until something intelligent enough to build choruses comes along. Then maybe the choruses start working on the next thing.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >time and time again you have been promised adventure and have never found it
      Kino. We need more work out of the primer guy. Everything he's made is good

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >We need more work out of the primer guy.
        About that...

  12. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I liked Primer because of the setting. It's that same comfy little yank town as Memento. Love places like that in films. Really should move to one of those one day.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Think Primer was somewhere in Texas.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's the nowheresville aspect I like. Just a sleepy little town which is distinctly American but that's the only distinguishing feature. I've lived in the UK, China, Korea, Japan but I really want to find that little kind of town to settle down.

  13. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    So it's basically about them being stuck in a endless loop right? Or at least, constantly creating repeating timelines forever. Go in the box, come out, go back in the box. One person goes ahead to the future, but the person who originally travelled into the future has to go back, and then avoid their future self, who has to go back, and so on forever

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      i thought he trapped his friend

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      No. No, man, no. No one is "stuck" doing anything. The Abe and Aaron iteration we follow are, by the end, at the start of Abe and Aaron building boxes. Abe can stop them or not, but there's no more repetition than dropping a stylus in an earlier groove. If he never goes back again, then that's it. He'll just go on as a copy of a dude in the world.

      Now Aaron on the other hand is obviously planning something. You don't build either a warehouse-sized box or a warehouse full of boxes unless you're planning to send back something very large or numerous.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Shane?

  14. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >invent Time Machine
    >suddenly presented with chance to foil a murder

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Its possible Aaron engineered the danger as well. Aaron right away is shown getting a little nuts over fricking with reality. What's money? That's nothing for them.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >invent Time Machine
        >suddenly presented with chance to foil a murder

        Yeah their world had already been compromised. This movie is frickin sick

  15. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Primer is good. upstream color is cool too. If Shane is here please make more kino, thanks.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Upstream Color
      I regret that I tried to watch it as a dumb weed kid with my dumb weed friends. It almost certainly deserved better. Maybe Primer needs another shot, too — I hardly remember anything about it.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I regret that I tried to watch it as a dumb weed kid with my dumb weed friends.
        I watched it with my brother while we were high. We still enjoyed it, but mostly because of how weird it is, not that we understood any of it. I should give it another rewatch.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          its all one big metaphor for a codependent relationship

  16. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Sekimeiya is the ultimate time travel story, despite some flaws.

  17. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Aaron invites his cousin to the party
    >cousins friend shows up and shoots Rachel fatally
    >Aaron knows he caused this and has to come back to fix it. He lies to abe "no, he doesn't fire" (looks very guilty and shifty as he says this) because he knows Abe would rather let her die than frick with causality
    >at some point Thomas Granger figured out what happened and tried to go back too after following the boys or Aaron told him how
    It's the only thing that makes sense

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >>at some point Thomas Granger figured out what happened and tried to go back too after following the boys or Aaron told him how
      Why did Granger pass out then? It took many time travel trips for Aaron to get blood coming from his ear. Odds are Granger just travelled once.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        He had a beard. He might have been in there for days. Plus the machine itself fricks you up the longer you use it so why not the longer you are in it, too?

  18. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Primer is good but it's overrated by STEMgays who want to think they're smarter than they are.

  19. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    i feel like one guy is just shilling a film no one wants to see

  20. 10 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      interesting

  21. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    i love you shane, i need just one more shane kino in my life please i have been watching and waiting for decades

  22. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's good, but there's lots of dumb shit
    >they don't buy lotto tickets because "dude, the lotto is on Saturday which is like 5 days away", yeah much better to frick up the timelines then to wait 5 days
    >main character literally said to the other character "you're just jealous of my wife and her son"
    >"lets punch our ex-boss in the face" and undo it with time travel

  23. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >your hand writing gets messy because youre an anonoly from a different timeline and the universe is trying to get rid of you
    LMAO literally low iq moronic magic back to the future time travel logic

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      No. Their hand writing gets worse because early in the film both Abe and Aaron put their hands over the early anti-gravity thing that they made which would become the time machine. Their hands were out of time sync with the rest of their bodies.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Their hands were out of time sync with the rest of their bodies.
        Holy shit this is even more moronic

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's a time travel movie, they are all moronic. This one is just a little smarter than the rest.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nope, plenty of time travel movies with better logic that doesn't involve magic. Primer is literally Terminator Genisys levels of stupid.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Name two

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Nope, plenty of time travel movies with better logic that doesn't involve magic.
                There's nothing "magic" about it you dumb homosexual. They put their hands on some insane experimental anti gravity thing and it fricked up their hand writing as they used the machine more and more. Name a few of these smarter time travel movies.

                Bill and Ted and Timecrimes.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Timecrimes
                Yeah, that's smart
                >dude, there just happens to be a working time travel lab just past your backyard!

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >dude, there just happens to be a working time travel lab just past your backyard!
                yeah, and? theres 9 billion people on the planet and 1 guy happens to have a time travel lab behind his house. of course theyre not gonna make a movie about the 9 billion people who dont have a time travel lab behind their house.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >yeah, and? theres 9 billion people on the planet and 1 guy happens to have a time travel lab behind his house.
                This proves that it's not a smart movie. It's just as fricking stupid as the other time travel movies. At least in Primer they are scientists that invent their machine. In Timecrimes the guy just wanders 20 feet from his property and a time travel lab is just there for some reason. In reality such a building would be behind a fortress of walls and guards.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Bill and Ted
                Had time travel, but not a time travel movie
                >Timecrimes
                okay but worse than Primer in every way

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Nope, plenty of time travel movies with better logic that doesn't involve magic.
              There's nothing "magic" about it you dumb homosexual. They put their hands on some insane experimental anti gravity thing and it fricked up their hand writing as they used the machine more and more. Name a few of these smarter time travel movies.

    • 10 months ago
      sage

      No. Their hand writing gets worse because early in the film both Abe and Aaron put their hands over the early anti-gravity thing that they made which would become the time machine. Their hands were out of time sync with the rest of their bodies.

      >Their hands were out of time sync with the rest of their bodies.
      Holy shit this is even more moronic

      Wait, really? I thought the time travel process just caused progressive nerve damage and was fricking up their motor control the more they used it.

  24. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    are you supposed to read the chart before rewatching, so you know whats coming and can look out for it and analyze it as it happens, or rewatch then read the chart, so the pieces come together afterwards in reflection?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      the charts are stupid. If you want a real break down of everything you have to watch the london city girl video.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      look at the chart after so you can try and figure it out the first time, I don't even really get it with the chart after 2 viewings

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I explained earlier today in another thread; No, the charts don't mean anything unless you can't grasp the immediate narrative behind the iterations we're being shown. Primer has an unreliable narrator, and the "true" events and consequences are inherently unknowable.

      There is no chart. Shane Carruth has no idea what happened, so you can be sure as shit neither does some redditor.

      >Nope, plenty of time travel movies with better logic that doesn't involve magic.
      There's nothing "magic" about it you dumb homosexual. They put their hands on some insane experimental anti gravity thing and it fricked up their hand writing as they used the machine more and more. Name a few of these smarter time travel movies.

      That's an old fan theory. This was never said outright. It could also have something to with symmetry breaking. Recall that the weeble, then the men, are cycling between points and B in a causal loop, then violating one of the cycles by "getting out" halfway. This could have profound effects on things like bodily orientation.

  25. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >the ultimate time travel kino
    *blocks your path*

  26. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    do you guys think shane would kill baby hitler or help him

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why do you think he was building that big one at the end?

  27. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    could the technology be used for longer than 6 hours or whatever?

  28. 10 months ago
    sage

    My dad's a professor, so I got taken to see this at a college film festival when I was like 8. Didn't understand it at all, and was intimidated from re-watching it for years.
    Saw it last year though and it was pretty good! Really wasn't that complicated either. I think maybe the people who saw it did so in a crowded auditorium and thus struggled to hear the details? Or maybe they just struggle to pay attention in general.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      is ur dad a professor in gay son studies

  29. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nah Bill & Ted is better

  30. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

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