Frank Herbert in 77 "Star Wars plagiarized Dune"

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    what did it plagiarize? Deserts and Empires?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If there's anything these movies bringing Dune to the forefront has done, it's made it clear that George Lucas really is a very creative man, and that Frank Herbert is a very bad author. Star Wars takes very little from Dune and is a thousand times cooler than it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Star Wars takes
        everything from other sources and had nothing original in it and you are a monkey.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >what is sabres of paradise

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            empire strikes back and return are recycling of first Dune

            >Good guys lose a battle (Harkonnens retake Arrakis, empire wins battle of hoth)
            >Good guys go into hiding to train and whatnot(Pochahontas and Stilgard train Paul the power of the desert, Yoda trains Luke the force)
            >bad guy revealed to be related to the good guy (Harkonnen is grandfather, Darth is father)
            >good guys use native population to defeat the bad guy

            premise stolen from Dune
            >evil emperor's and space feudalism
            >focus on desert planet
            >minimalist space magic and the voice
            >sword fighting in the future
            >protagonists wife dies in childbirth, protagonist gets sad
            >twin protagonists
            >Son redeems father (Letho 2 continues golden path, luke helps anakin to bring balance)
            >bunch of other stuff I forgot

            >sabres of paradise
            Nothing similar to Dune. Emperors of Dune and Star Wars were villains. The Tsar was in the right.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's kind of netflix tier writing, obscuring information for a cheap
        >Actually so and so is person's DAD!! Isn't that surprising??
        >Actually so and so is person's SISTER!!! What will he think of next??

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          the visuals did all the lifting in Star Wars.
          Put the story in a bland location with the same bland actors and you have a shit movie.
          The movie is great thanks to the mystery of this strange new world.
          As soon as Lucas entered the modern Era he fricked it all up.
          Sure The Phantom Menace is cool, but is it really that much better than 5th Element?
          Bruce Willis is a much better actor than most everybody in Star Wars, the only one you can debate is Liam Neeson and he wasnt much in Star Wars, just very stoic.
          >inb4 hatergay
          I love Star Wars

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            why is jesus at the bedside of a vancer patient?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              kek that is Qui Gon Jinn, the woman is the love of his life and the suffering of losing her taught him that the darkside is managable.
              He wanted to murder and destroy, but he chose not to.
              Qui Gon Jinn is a real human bean.

              Pretty much, Lucas was a pioneer in things like practical effects and cinematography but he’s borderline moronic when it comes to storytelling, I wouldn’t be surprised if he read Dune a decade earlier and just mixed it with half a dozen other things in his head before he got to Star Wars.

              Pretty much and frankly it worked, I still love Star Wars.
              The new movies are ass, but the Originals and even the Prequels are pretty decent movies.
              I think the only new Star Wars movie I can stomach is Rogue One, because it doesnt make a gay or Waman the new Main Character.
              It is just a story of a human in the Star Wars era.
              Parts of it were pretty cringe and illogical, but if you ever have a gf or friend you want to get into star wars show them Rogue One.
              Its simple, shows cool stuff, nice action and the story ends in one movie.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Pretty much, Lucas was a pioneer in things like practical effects and cinematography but he’s borderline moronic when it comes to storytelling, I wouldn’t be surprised if he read Dune a decade earlier and just mixed it with half a dozen other things in his head before he got to Star Wars.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          there's nothing wrong with simple stories

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >t.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Got this excited for what was guaranteed to be a gutter trash movie and was

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              isn't he an empty "influencer" just picking up projects to shill for? Disney probably just paid it for his face and reactions

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I NEVER LEARNED TO READ, OKAY??!?!?!?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I read every day, you silly b***h.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        George Lucas is a boomer core homosexual apologist
        cope

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >homosexual apologist
          You should be thanking him then, gay.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Got em

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >it's made it clear that George Lucas really is a very creative man

        lol

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Lucas is a very creative man
        It’s like poetry… It rhymes.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I completely agree with you.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        GL is pretty much known to have ripped off a bunch off old films too, but I wouldn't call SW a direct plagiarism of anything. More of a pastiche

        Cool beans, now how much did Frank Herbert pay Lesley Blanch?

        Fair point

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        half of these are grasping at straws

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yes.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            They are straw-grasping. If you're upset about Star Wars "plagarizing" wait until you learn about what other stuff not by Lucas lifted from

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          99.9999% of all plagiarism claims are just nitpicking bullshit.
          >what is this! Someone wrote a book that included a description of the sky as blue! I wrote that same thing 10 years ago! Plagiarism! Thievery! I invented the idea of the sky being blue!

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            This, though its obvious Lucas was inspired by Dune among other things. Actual rip offs are really rare.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >guys both stories have binoculars, giant worms, a desert planet, AND space magic!
          This is the smoking gun we needed. Lucasfilm is finished.

          >spying on people with binoculars

          The Jabba/Leto thing is a coincidence though.
          Lucas's script of Episode IV from 1979 calls him a "slug-like creature" so he was already thinking about changing the Irish guy from the deleted scene of Episode IV to a slug guy before GEoD was released.

          They're all coincidence on their own but together, it's straight up plagiarism.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >They're all coincidence on their own but with straw-grasping, it's straight up plagiarism.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Plagiarism?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Quit gaslighting. They’re nothing alike.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, people don't seem to grasp this. If the other factors weren't taken place in this shameless plagiarism then it wouldn't have been a huge stretch but when there are many elements taken straight from Dune it makes it more apparent.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, people don't seem to grasp this. If the other factors weren't taken place in this shameless plagiarism then it wouldn't have been a huge stretch but when there are many elements taken straight from Dune it makes it more apparent.

            Exactly. If there were a couple of similarities, it would be "pure coincidence". But it all adds up

            Dune is just shonen anime Laurence of Arabia anyway

            >disney drones haven't familiarized with either Dune or Lawrence.

            Letho sending Duncan to fremen was similar to UK sending Lawrence to Arabia, but that's pretty much it

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >white savior attempts to lead desert people to their own liberation

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Lawrence was British soldier send to help Arabs to combat Ottomans in a proxy war.

                He wasn't a saviour, he was an officer doing his job. Bri'ish and French then annexed the Arabs.
                It's the opposite of saviour

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Paul was the son of a nobleman sent to help the Fremen combat the Harkonnen's as revenge for his father's betrayal

                >He wasn't a messiah, he was a feudal lord seizing power. Fremen culture was then destroyed along with most of the desert. It's the opposite of savior.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Fremen culture was then destroyed
                > along with most of the desert.

                You haven't read Dune, you probably didn't even watch the film

                Fremen WANTED to terraform the planet and you can't "Destroy" desert. Your sentence makes no sense.
                >Paul was the son of a nobleman sent to help the Fremen combat the Harkonnen's as revenge for his father's betrayal

                This sentence makes no sense.
                Paul wasn't send to help the Fremen. He wasn't just an officer doing his job

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                A fedaykin betrays Paul in Messiah partially because terraforming the planet wipes out Fremen culture. Paul led the Fremen out of duty to house Atreides and wasn't actually their savior either. Herbert read T.E. Lawrence's Seven Pillars of Wisdom: A Triumph, and the parallels should be obvious, but I think you're being purposely dense.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I mentioned four major plot points that are found in Dune and Star Wars that are absent in life of Lawrence, and mentioned seven other similarities. You're the one being dense

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          which half?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          So if half of them are legit I'd say that's enough

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >spying on people with binoculars

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The great Frank Herbert was the first person to realise that binoculars could be used for a millitary scouting application. Before him, they were exclusively used for birdwatching. Show more respect.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          the cut part of portal where you come across johnson stuck in a box and he politely begs you to kill him was really good and i wish it was in the actual game

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >guys both stories have binoculars, giant worms, a desert planet, AND space magic!
        This is the smoking gun we needed. Lucasfilm is finished.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The Jabba/Leto thing is a coincidence though.
        Lucas's script of Episode IV from 1979 calls him a "slug-like creature" so he was already thinking about changing the Irish guy from the deleted scene of Episode IV to a slug guy before GEoD was released.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Leto II starts becoming a man/worm hybrid at the end of children of dune.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            yeah but he doesnt turn into jabba until the next book, at the end of children of dune he just has a sandtrout suit

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              thus, star wars is an unofficial sequel to children of dune.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Lucas's script of Episode IV from 1979 calls him a "slug-like creature"
          If he was a slug-like creature, then why did they cast a fat guy to play him in New Hope?
          The avaliable drafts online were forged by Lucas where he retroactively added shit to them so it looks like he had it all planned out from the beginning. It's his autistic obsession to make it look like Star Wars was this grand epic he's had all figured out in the 70s.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >from 1979
            he had already started forging the script by then

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Lucas's script of Episode IV from 1979 calls him a "slug-like creature"
          No it fricking doesn't. Also, the movie came out in 1977, moron.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You had me convinced for the first half but what the frick are those ones in the latter?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        lucas gays who cant read getting mega upset over here.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          there's a reason we're not reading anything longer than the intro crawl chud

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        wtf #cancelstarwarsnow

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        While rewatching the Star Wars films I noticed each one of them has someone looking through space binocular
        It even continues into the sequels and spin off movies
        I thought that was interesting

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          clearly disney has acquired a fraudulent product and the star wars IP must been transfered to the herbert family

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Jedi Bendu
        No need to make stuff up.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Jedi of Opuchi-Bendu was in an early draft, along with Bogan-Sith. Bendu got recycled as the name of a character in Rebels cartoon.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Exactly - not in the movies.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Where does Herbert have a israeliteess wearing a metal bikini which squeezes her melons together?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Now do Lensman.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Lensman
          and silver age Green Lantern?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Sounds like they both ripped off Joseph Campbell.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Paul does not use electric binoculars. they're described as having oil lenses, ie very low tech

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You can hear the liquid as he switches ranges

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >just a name
        >what if the sahara was a whole planet
        >inspired by tanks in north africa
        >people in the desert need water, what a concept
        >reference, literally a single line
        >mind control, never mentioned before dune
        >not mentioned in the first movie, later canon, just an omage
        >frank herbert invented vissions of dead people, nevermind hamlet
        >phantom menace, not star wars, also comparing a minor part of the movie with one of the major players in dune
        >frank herbert invented training dummies
        >frank herbert invented the exciting action set-piece
        >laughable
        >again, later movies
        >giant frog vs man-worm, personalities are nothing alike

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >pure coincidence, bro

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Hmn I don't know, seems like a stretch to me.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Both stories feature a romance between a desert dweller and a member of nobility. One of them is a Chosen One with supernatural abilities. The woman dies in childbirth.
        Their children go on to become protagonists later in the saga.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The guy is also spooked by scary visions of the future

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        all of this shit was common tropes in the 60s science fiction. Frank Herbert plagiarized as well. it was especially obvious with how weak of a writer he actually is when all the tropes are stripped away.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        George should just buy the rights to Dune's own "Source Text", The Sabres of Paradise.

        Copyright law is so sketchy any random can buy up older rights that acted as inspiration to more popular works and troll the more popular IP's owner with them.

        Weirdest part of this is that the only guy who ever really acted on this was Vanilla Ice who bought the rights to Under Pressure so he couldn't get hit for Ice Ice Baby. He had the latter's rights muscled away from him by that sketchy rap producer who's killed a number of acts in his time, but apparently the UP rights still keep a decent amount of money flowing in.

        All that said the doco on Jodo's Dune makes a stronger case that Lucas cribbed harder from that book of storyboards than the og novel. Because it incorporates a ton of Jodo's strange additions. And Raiders having the "Vengeful Ghosts" sequence.

        Also all the "magic"and religious sect stuff in Dune and Star Wars can be compared to Jesuit practices. So in that they're "Public Domain" concepts, like the Hero's Journey.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Whatever happened to that one newage chick that the Matrix guys stole their story from? Did she win anything or did they get the rights to her source material?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          What does The Sabres of Paradise have to do with dune?
          Did Herbert stole premise, setting or plot elements from there?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Every time there is an allegation of plagiarism in popular music, it's always because both works are generic cookie cutter garbage, both of which could be accused of plagiarizing hundreds of other songs. The same applies here

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      mystical martial mentors
      desert planet
      young man being important

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        So Dune ripped of Joseph campbell

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          incel

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'll say the one that you literally CANNOT ARGUE

      is chani giving birth to twins and dying (like padme)

      Others you could argue it's a coincidence. That one is so FRICKING SPECIFIC it literally CANNOT be a coincidence. Lucas is a thief

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >is chani giving birth to twins and dying (like padme)
        That didn't come until after '77 though. Those weren't things until Episode 6 and Episode 3.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          In fact in RotJ Leia seems to have memories of her mother which would be utterly ridiculous if Padme died at birth, so the idea definitely came later

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The says "images" and "feelings" is what she remembers of her mother; she was beautiful and seemed sad. She didn't give anything specific, like how she would laugh when taking her to get ice cream or play on the swingset or whatever. Knowing that she was pretty but sad is consistent with Jimmy Smits giving a picture of Natalie Portman to his adopted kid.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Please don't ever explain anything else with the Force.

              StarWars will never have a plothole thanks to space magic.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              What's more likely:
              -Your contrived metaphorical headcanon explanation
              -Lucas just didn't had it planned yet

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Are you of the impression for some reason that Lucas stopped plagiarizing Dune after the first movie? Did you not hear the extremely awkward attempt to shoehorn the concept of ecology into Phantom Menace? (symbiont circle etc)

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >is chani giving birth to twins and dying (like padme)
        isn't that Romulus and Remus?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          This is what popped into my mind immediately, unless you're reading the Iliad or the Epic of Gilgamesh then you're probably reading or watching something derivative, which is okay as long as it's well-executed and is also much better than the modern and nihilistic deconstructionist narratives of the last decades who are obsessed with destroying and pushing LGBTQ marxism as the norm.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      come on, dude, you can see the dune right there.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There's some similarities, the Force mind trick and The Voice in Dune. Sand people are like a pathetic version of Fremen, Jabba and Leto 2 in wormform, but mostly the other similarities are generic stuff that are common in these kinds of stories

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The force.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >trained witches can control people with their voices
        >there is a mystical energy field that connects all living beings, which has a light side and a dark side that corrupts you, and you can be trained to tap into it to use telepathic and telekinetic abilities, see the future, enhance your speed and reflexes, and shoot lightning from your hands
        Dunegay think these are the same things.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The sarlacc pit is a Dune sandworm

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >a mouth in the ground is the same thing as a giant worm that shits space oil

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          If book Dune describes the worm mouth opening up from directly under the surface like the film shows then that is quite Sarlacc-y.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Han smuggles SPICE for Jabba. Star Wars is totally upfront about being influenced by Dune.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      empire strikes back and return are recycling of first Dune

      >Good guys lose a battle (Harkonnens retake Arrakis, empire wins battle of hoth)
      >Good guys go into hiding to train and whatnot(Pochahontas and Stilgard train Paul the power of the desert, Yoda trains Luke the force)
      >bad guy revealed to be related to the good guy (Harkonnen is grandfather, Darth is father)
      >good guys use native population to defeat the bad guy

      premise stolen from Dune
      >evil emperor's and space feudalism
      >focus on desert planet
      >minimalist space magic and the voice
      >sword fighting in the future
      >protagonists wife dies in childbirth, protagonist gets sad
      >twin protagonists
      >Son redeems father
      >bunch of other stuff I forgot

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >evil emperor's and space feudalism
        Where did you get that the empire in SW is feudal?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Because there are royalty like Leia under emperor Sheev.

          It's poorly defined and makes no sense, though.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Ummm…sweetie ever hear of a thing called SAND!!!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It didn't plagiarize. But the jedi are based on the bene-gesserit. I mean the "Jedi mind trick" is just the voice, straight up.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        And we're pretending that's a new idea? There's nothing new under the sun anon. There are stories about sorcerers and gods and demons commanding people like that throughout the mythologies of hundreds of cultures.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Oh sure, but I think you have an argument when one piece of media becomes a cultural touchstone and then other media uses ideas from it. The ideas weren't new in Dune, but in the 60s/70s, Dune was how people got introduced to those ideas.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          But see, a demon telling someone to do something is distinct enough. An order of monks that use mystic powers to perform very similar feats is where it becomes a little too similar.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >the jedi are based on the bene-gesserit
        >space samurai are based on israeli witches who control the government through their pussy
        No, they're not.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          the Jedi are LITERALLY israelites

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          samurai
          Jedis are literally israeli monks

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Probably

      Yes

      Everybody already knew all of this

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Dune ripped off Warhammer 40K

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How fricking old is warhammer

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        40,000 years

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      40k is better than Dune

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      40k came out in the 80s and is filled with 80s and older fantasy/scifi references and ripoffs. It tries to be the ultimate scy fi fantasy setting because they put not aliens and not dune and not starship troopers and the list can go on and on, into one setting so it can pull in fans of different franchises.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      When I was growing up only fat kids liked warhammer

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    wait, hold on a minute, hold your horses, hang on for a second, george lucas... is a hack?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's very sad that he looks like a genius compared to most filmmakers nowadays. I dislike George Lucas.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >the hero of both the book and the movie is a messianic young man who can tap into a mystical force to get him out of his predicments
    This is the most generic description I've ever read holy shit.
    >som of the action in th book and in the movie takes place on a sandy, desolate planet inhabited by nomadic scavengers who are pursued by enormous sand creatures
    I can't believe Frank Herbert invented deserts! As well, there are no "enormous sand creatures" of note in the original Star Wars, just the skeleton in the OP.
    >and many of the names, gadgets, and concepts in Star Wars seem suspiciously similar to those in Dune
    Do they? Which ones? Name them you cowards. All of these details are so incredibly generic and belonged to a thousand stories before Herbert put pen to paper.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think there are names lifted from Dune, but "bantha" and "sith" are lifted from the John Carter of Mars books.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      there is literally a giant sand worm in the mandalorian

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah well everyone has been plagiarizing they guy that invented the alphabet for a really fricking long time and you don't hear him complaining about it so get over it.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >THEY STOLE MY HECKING IDEA! IT'S NOT FAIR!!!!

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    herbert was definitely a b***h for making these claims, but lucas is, in fact, a hack

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i dont really think its a secret that star wars took inspiration from dune, tattoone was obviously inspired by arakis, and the movie uses casual terms like “spice” that were a genuine reference to the series.
    but suggesting luke, obi wan, and tuskens are a rip off is a bit questionable. none of those are exactly novel ideas

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It might've been a rip off had Luke joined the sandpeople.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He literally ran into the desert when his family got killed and joined one wan there.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >he's the chosen one... like Paul Atreides
    >and he lives on a sand planet... like Paul Atreides

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Luke isn't the chosen one

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Indeed. There's no prophecy in the OT, and it's better for it.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >The chosen one to bring balance to the force isn't a prophecy
          The absolute state of Cinemaphile

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Are you moronic or are you ESL?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I was already an adult when Lucas brought "the balance of the Force" prophecy into Star Wars, 22 years after the first movie. TBotF was the rumored title of TPM for much of the time it was in production.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Anakin was supposed to be the chosen one.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          He was the chosen one. He killed the emperor mostly.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            he literally throws him into the conveniently placed pit of electricity

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          he actually wasnt. he fell to the dark side, proving he wasnt. everyone definitely thought he was, even the personifications of the force, but truly what they were seeing was luke swimming in his balls

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The being literally created by the force itself is NOT the chosen one???

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Cool beans, now how much did Frank Herbert pay Lesley Blanch?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This, that's why the word "sietch" is there. Not Arabic.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      what the frick, Dune was real

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imam_Shamil

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Harkonnens are Russians

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why doesn't Dune have any MMA fights?

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    space samurais with fricking laser swords is way more kino than anything in Dune tough

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Space samurais with FRICKING lazor swords

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >space samurais
      Good job on not understanding Star Wars.
      The entire thing should have been Tolkien-eske, but for some reason it gets fricking butchered.
      My biggest grievance is the destruction of the Millenium Falcon origin story.
      >before
      >Cool space cowboy named Han Solo wins a ship gambling
      >Gets out of trouble through skill and some luck
      >Ship seems to have something odd about it that makes it misbehave... is it alive???
      vs now
      >Ship is a sassy robot giiiiirl that used to be owned by a groud, shiiiieeet.
      Great, murdered the heroes steed analogy and made it a sassy woman

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        But the Falcon always used to be owned by Lando

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Good job on not understanding Star Wars.
        who gives a frick what you think

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >>Ship seems to have something odd about it that makes it misbehave... is it alive???
        what the frick are you talking about?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      seethe manchild

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        good comeback, bro

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Dune sucks
    Star Wars sucks
    Both stories stole from Flash Gordon. No I won't elaborate.
    Space samurai is still cooler than anything in Dune. Suck my dick.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Herb sounds like a whiny c**t.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I just read that article. Were people in the 70s really this cool?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I was. Not anymore, though.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    reminder that journalists can never be trusted (yes, I know Herbert himself was one), and OP is a gay for his misleading title
    for example, they quote Herbert as saying
    >I think there's reason to believe that he did. Whether it's actionable, I'm not the one to judge.
    but note that the question they place before it,
    >Did "Star Wars" director George Lucas, who says the movie was inspired by his love affair with science fiction, plagiarize "Dune"?
    is conspicuously NOT a quotation, nor do they say that Herbert's response was a response to that SPECIFIC question—note how they never quote Herbert saying any variation of the word 'plagiarism', and the headline of the article is "Writer of 'Dune' says 'Star Wars' used elements of novel without permission" which again, is not the same thing
    I fricking hate these homosexualy word games

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Stop making excuses. Dune has mind control and swordfights with spaceships on a desert planet with an evil empire and a young chosen one fighting against it. So did Star Wars while Dune was still the most popular scifi novel at the time.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        your response has nothing to do with the content of my post
        I therefore conclude you are a moron

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Luke wasn't even a chosen one. He was just a viewpoint character for the audience. Paul is the product of thousands of years of eugenics.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Paul is the product of thousands of years of eugenics.
      so he had The Force inside of him?

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Star Wars plagiarized The Hidden Fortress

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You've never seen The Hidden Fortress. All Star Wars took from it was the idea of the least important characters being the viewpoint into the story.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        And what makes you think The Hidden Fortress came up with that?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I never said THF invented that you illiterate baboon. It is a fact that Lucas has said that's what he took from the movie, and if you've seen THF you'd know there's nothing else of its DNA in Star Wars.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >It is a fact that Lucas has said that's what he took from the movie
            Proofs or you're a lying c**t

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              ?si=F4me54p75inLozYb&t=208

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Samurai?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        unironic fricking brainlet, kek
        The basic structure of the plot, of the characters trying to rescue a Princess from the evil empire, is from Hidden Fortress.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Star Wars isn't about trying to rescue a princess from an evil empire, the characters happen upon both the Death Star and Leia inside it by accident. Hidden Fortress is a guard the npc quest.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >the characters happen upon both the Death Star and Leia inside it by accident
            They're heading to Alderaan, because that's where the Princess lives. They're responding to her recorded message. They are ABSOLUTELY trying to save the princess.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Based hidden fortress is a great fricking movie. Mifunes staff fight is kino

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You've never seen The Hidden Fortress. All Star Wars took from it was the idea of the least important characters being the viewpoint into the story.

      Star Wars plagiarised mostly Dune, but also Kurosawa, Flash Gordon, French comics, a few sci fi books and The Wizard of Oz.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's okay they took stuff from Oz. At least Lucas let him play Yoda.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      and the hidden fortress plagiarized 3 bad men

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Article makes him sound like an eminently reasonable fellow, doesn't come across remotely like a bitter schizo like I expected him too

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Lucas openly admits Dune was a huge inspiration for Star Wars. We've known this since 1977

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    lol Dune plagiarized from Foundation
    what a fricking hack

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Daneel?

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Has Lucas ever mentioned or talked about Dune? Either way I don't see enough there to call it plagiarism.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    lol what a butthurt gay

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Mhm.
    Mhm.
    Dune inspired Star Wars but outside the setting Star Wars chose a simpler yet more diverse story, with fencing and not knife fighting, actual space battles, and more.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I thought it was commonly accepted that Star Wars plag- erm was inspired by Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets? Whether or not they in turn were inspired ny Dune I'm not sure

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      true

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Most of these are universal in sci-fi/fantasy. The only one that looks directly influenced is Han in carbonite.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >i've never read Valerian et Laureline
          ok m8. you missed out

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        So who was the one reading Valerian & Laureline on the SW staff that influenced the designs? Lucas himself?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      it was a pastiche of all the existent/popular science fiction

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      it was a pastiche of all the existent/popular science fiction

      Yeah, there's quite a bit of John Carter in there too.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >John Carter
        There probably isn't a Sci-fi work it didn't influence

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        > Jed (count) Jeddak (king)
        Jedi
        >Padawar (soldier)
        Padawan

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, commonly accepted because of obvious visual elements.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    By that logic Dune plagarized Lawrence of Arabia

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, is moronic, Lucas didn't hide any of his many influences, including dune, saying it was plagiarism is moronic.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Lucas didn't hide any of his many influences
        He definitely hid all the israeli mythology he inserted

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Star Wars OT is the least israeli thing to come out of Hollywood, and it stars a half-jew, and a quarter-jew.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            no such thing as a quarter or half israelite

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >movies that are basically toy commercials
            >steals plot, premise and design from other works
            >least israeli

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              What does that grid of 100% non-Star Wars gingers being replaces by Black folks have to do with Star Wars?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                What does Star Wars have to do with Dune more than Lawrence of Arabia?

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >I wrote a book called Dune now I own all the dunes!
    lol what a beta homosexual

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >herbert was a moron who didnt know the difference between copyright and trademark law

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    And GRRM plagiarized Romance of the Three Kingdoms and Warcraft. Who cares

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How did he plagiarize warcraft? Did blizzard invent zombie armies?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Lich King's an ice zombie or something.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Tolkien based war of the ring on Ottoman Invasion of Europe, specifically battle of Vienna.

      GRRM based war of five kangs on War of Rose's. His zombies are based on Germanic myths- Draugr.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Tolkien based most of the lore from english and other northern european epics (like kalevala from finland, or The poethic edda)

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Correct, but I am talking about the war of the ring specifically.
          Lore is based Christianized Germanic(Inlcuding Anglo Saxon) myths.
          By Christianizes, I mean Elves are stand in for Angel's. Orc, literally means deamon. Sauron is Lucifer etc.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The war of roses is more kino than any space opera will ever be.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Ralph McQuarrie plagiarized Wookiees from John Shoenherr's art for GRRM's "And Seven Times Never Kill a Man." But GRRM plagiarized Tolkein's middle names.

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I wonder if all these stories about galactic empires all have some sort of common FOUNDATION

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      nope!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Which of the 'inspired by Foundation' things even deal with the FALL (not overthrow/rebellion) of established empire?

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    frank herbert directl plagiarized a little known book about the caucasian muslims rebels against the russian empire called Sabres of Paradise. to the point that he lifted some passages almost verbatim.

    they're both hack frauds

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Sandworms clearly don't have those (or any) heads.

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Dune (six books by Herbert) > D U N C > (power gap) > Shart Wars (moronic cliched dogshit full of tropes for moronic kiddies)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Oops, wrong picture.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I was going to talk shit at you for posting Kevin J. Anderson trash.

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's kind of funny when you go watch the old Flash Gordon and realise a ton of shots/scenes in Star Wars were basically 1:1 copied from it. I don't have a problem with people taking a ton of shit they like, mashing it all together and making something even better out of it though.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >even better

      Lmao. Out of nine movies seven are unwatchable

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >protagonist is a whiny homosexual unwilling to do what needs to be done
    Checks out.

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The audacity of Frank Herbert is outstanding.

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Let us not forget who started the space desert meme

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yea and dune ripped of Lawrence of Arabia

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah no shit, star wars is dune meets samurai movies meets western meets ww2 and some older sci fi and fantasy movie and book tropes. But its actually how many stories evolve by being inspired from older works. Dune has some inspiration from Lawrence of arabia and even qoran (messianic warlord carves an empire)

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody cares about Dune

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      More people care about it than Sòy wars now

  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    "Based on" and "inspired by" mean different things

  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Zamn now i see how much Bethesda ripped off both Dune and SW in both Morrowind and skyrim...

  44. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Saying Star Wars ripped off Dune is the most braindead thing Ive seen recently. Someone today said Star Wars ripped off Dune because both use swords as a primary weapon...even tho Star Wars swords function entirely differently and the use of swords in sci-fi is pretty standard even back in the pulp scifi days.

    Star Wars draws far more from sci-fi adventure serials from the 40s/50s and samurai movies than Dune.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      it draws from lots of things one is dune

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Nope

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      clearly john carter ripped off dune

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        John Carter is several decades older than Dune.

  45. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Have to remember the context of sci fi writing at the time. Sci fi was incredibly influential and its ideas were starting to make big money in Hollywood but most writers themselves were impoverished schizos like Philip K Dick. They contributed a lot to culture and art for how little they were recognized compared to bigger productions like Star Wars that really did use their genius ideas as creative fuel.

  46. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the universe of Star Wars is so fricking boring compared to literally any other sci fi

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This. I've always found it completely unengaging. The mainline films were always very simplistic and straightforward - which is fine for a popcorn flick but makes for bland world-building - and all the spin off shit is so random and varied in scale and what takes place when that it's just a boring mess that has no appeal.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        the universe of Star Wars is so fricking boring compared to literally any other sci fi

        SW was basically a shallow pastiche of what Lucas liked. Asimov's Robot/Empire universe,KSR Mars trilogy, Vernor Vinge's Zone of Thought series, Simmon's Hyperion, Greg Bear's Forge of God/Anvil of Stars, and Niven/Pournelle's works (Known Space and CoDominium) are all better at making a detailed world than Star Wars. It doesn't help that this is mostly a kids franchise and can only be as deep as the best kids media can be (Pixar/Avatar level). I read Blindsight years ago and it is packed with more imagination and creative concepts (like making vampires scientifically believable) than even the OT. And I say this as a dillusioned SW fan.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      same, logh suffers from the same thing, a whole galaxy as your setting and there's only 3 factions? of course japs can't into art

      georgie boi doesn't have clue about anything beyond old serials made for kids

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >3 factions
        Democracy, autocracy and parasitic israelites. What more do you need?

  47. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Worms aren't vertebrates. Case closed.

  48. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What did he invent sand?

  49. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Tatooine not having any kind of important natural resource just begs the question of why the frick is anyone living on it in the first place.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The sandcrawlers were supposed to be ancient ore miners that were abandoned and eventually taken by Jawas. So ore, I guess? Luke's family is just too damn poor to go anywhere else, I'd assume.

  50. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Star Wars was always a fairly simplistic fairy tale for children. It's not the most original thing in the world, as many others have already noted, Lucas stole a bunch of things that he'd liked and presented it with a different coat of paint. What made Star Wars a success is not the story, but the fact that it revolutionized film and offered a movie like no other before it. Everything about it was groundbreaking: the pacing, the editing, visual effects, action, sound. Even if the story was simplistic and childish, it hooked you in and you experienced it via the magic of cinema. This is why Star Wars movies have been for the longest time considered an event, until Disney killed that. The so-called Star Wars "Expanded Universe" tried to make Star Wars some kind of edgy, gray, "adult" sci-fi with its tie-in material, but for the most part the attempts were quite shitty and cringe, and all those shitty books leeched off of the cinematic event that actually made people like it in the first place. The world of Star Wars was never anything more than a backdrop for the simple morality play. Often times it's just aesthetics over common sense. It was designed as a simple fairy tale for children, but unfortunately, it cultivated generations of man-children, who can't let go and move on with their lives. Star Wars was designed to make you want to go out in the world and do shit, like Luke in the first film. Instead, Star Wars "fans" attached themselves to their childhood memories and collect funko pops.

    Whereas Dune was designed from the get-go as a serious, thoughtful, adult science-fiction from the start. In that regard, Dune is obviously superior.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >ut the fact that it revolutionized film and offered a movie like no other before it. Everything about it was groundbreaking: the pacing, the editing, visual effects, action, sound. Even if the story was simplistic and childish, it hooked you in and you experienced it via the magic of cinema.
      This. It is pure movie magic. The art of the moving image. From that first opening shot of the star destroyer moving overhead, to the escape pods jettisoning, to the droids moving along the desert landscape, George was giving us a gift.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Dim take. Herbert wrote these books because he wanted to get on board bandwagon that l ron Hubbard lit out in. And all you morons tagged along by arguing about this made up bullshit.

  51. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    OG Star Wars is Dune except with some actual heart, and I'm saying this as a guy who was never that crazy about SW. The movies are solid, I'll give them that, but the people trying to prop them up saying they are the new Star Wars or Lord of the Rings are nuts. They are way too....cold. Over time, they just won't stick with general audiences the same.

  52. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Frick Dune, Frick Star Wars. Post serials that meant something.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Dune was first publised serialized

  53. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Holy cringe Herbert was a seething autist Star Wars is like the lynch dune movie a classic movie which brings out hope and inspires heroism while dune books inspires depression, atheism, muh bad colonialism etc

  54. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Frank Herbert in 77 "Star Wars plagiarized Dune"

    That's big talk from a man who blatantly plagiarized Lawrence of Arabia.

  55. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    george lucas STOLE from everybody

    he is NOT the genius filmmaker people think he is

    hell, george didnt even create the lightsaber

    jjohn dykstra created the lightsaber and presented that idea to george

    george took that idea and ran with it, can claimed it was HIS creation

    even the music was stolen

    listen

    yes, george gave williams the songs to steal from

    it wasnt williams who wrote the songs from scratch

  56. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >woketards using one hated franchise to attack another
    The sequels failed and now that DUNC is failing you use one to attack the other?

    FRICKEN LAWL

  57. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    that just makes him look pathetic
    >no one else can have le deserts or magic powers or worms but me!
    ok

  58. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Nausicaa ripped off dune

  59. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    its well known star wars borrowed a lot of elements from dune, but thats just what happens when a genre evolves. every scifi has lightsabers now because of star wars

  60. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    And Herbert ripped off Laurence of Arabian
    Lucas is a hack, we all know this

  61. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Dune plagiarised Lawrence of Arabia.

  62. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    he sounds genuinely butthurt over star wars.

  63. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Dune is terrible prose with weak philisophy, Herbert is a terrible writer with high school level ideas
    any book with good prose, or any philosophy book make his overlong ramblings redundant

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      like what?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        i don't know, ask Cinemaphile or something

  64. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Oh no. Whatever you do, don't tell anyone about The Sabres of Paradise.

  65. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i felt that sinking feeling again the other year when i saw the word 'geidi' on the screen and realized someone might read it with a soft g.
    It never ends there's always another thing

  66. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I have seen a talk given by Philip K. Dick in 1977, and at one point he mentions having seen Star Wars recently (that morning, if I remember it right). He says something about the movie (which he enjoyed), gave him a strong sense of Deja Vu. At some point in the same talk, he basically describes The Matrix. I assume the Wachowski gays lifted that from PKD's talk, Shadowrun, and other shit.

  67. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    All he is saying is that he has to try and sue them so other people in the future can't rip off Dune a lot more obviously by claiming he didn't care when Star Wars did it.

  68. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    star wars is the best media to come out of dune

  69. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Dune is just shonen anime Laurence of Arabia anyway

  70. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    movie making is about stealing aesthetics and story elements from a million other ips and then claiming it's "inspired" ad that the creators of those things should just chill out

  71. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Real G know that it's Tremors that ripped off dune, duh.
    You are either moronic, baiting or a disgusting mouse shill.

  72. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Fremens are just dirty Islamic nomads and I'm tired of acting like there not.

  73. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Burt Gummer would destroy the landsraad the guild the empire drink all your water and still have mres and ammo left over to do it again.

  74. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the amount of people going "NU UH" in this thread made me realize how full of zoomers and hispanics Cinemaphile is

  75. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    yea it used some surface level structure, as in elements, it also used the depth and substance of shamanism in pop culture and that one books of Castaneda that he only bought because his face showed on the cover of the Times while Lucas was re-writing the script for his SW
    he also uses the plot structure that Joseph Campbell explained in a book.
    He also cites and pays tribute to a movie scene or long ass sequence of events in almost every single frame of his movies...

  76. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    So what?
    That's how genres are created

    No one cries about the hundreds of Mad Max ripoffs they get popcorn and watch slop kino

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If you had read an ounce of real science fiction you would know there's far more to the genre than just endlessly xeroxing Star Wars and Dune.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I wouldn't realize anything because your premise is a false supposition, really a non sequitur.

        I won't bother telling you what I do read

  77. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Idiots here, dune clearly rips off Hamlet.

  78. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Humans are idea raping monsters.

    They say ‘imitation is the sincerest form of flattery’, but it can also be the sincerest form of insult.

    Whether this is an insult or flattery is up to you to decide.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Neither, it's just how cultural idioms are formed.

      Sword and Sorcery became the genre it is, with hundreds of heros and heroines and styles of movies and types of combat all piled up on each other to make the genre what it is.

      Thats beautiful.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, but some ideas totally miss the mark of the original. Some ideas can hit the mark, but not always.

        What Disney has done to Star Wars, or what Amazon has done to Lord of the Rings, is pure insult.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, most of what I say is looking back.

          The big difference is rhe soulless nature of film in general, nowadays. The newest Mad Max for example wasn't the best, but you could see real influences from the genre like The Cars That Ate Paris

          Making a LOTR with exclusively mixed race homosexual elves isn't that, that's just a cash grab.

  79. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >culture spreads like a disease
    that it do

  80. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Harkonen is father of Jessica and grandfather of Paul.

    Anakin is father of Luke.
    Sheev is grandfather of Rey.

  81. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    THE NORMIES ARE WAKING UP!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You use Twitter?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I can't believe DUNC pandemic is making me side with star wars

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      BASED

      I can't believe DUNC pandemic is making me side with star wars

      Cringe disneydrone

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Shit is getting obnoxious.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is incredibly cringe since nerds from the 80s already knew this

      Are people under/around the age of 30-40 getting dumber?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Americans had to fight for 20 years just to get lead out of the gas and paint

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Nerds knew something
        >post is about normies
        bruh

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What a midwit.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Darth Maul is just Feyd Rautha
      I'd say it being possible for someone to come to a conclusion like this just shows how much Denis botched the job.

  82. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Star Wars has hot fetish rapeable aliens. That's the only upside to it. Dune has stinky arabs who drink their own pee.

  83. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >i-is that sand on a planet?? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST PLAGIARIZE MY WORKS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I INVENTED SAND YOU CAN'T DO THIS

  84. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Fiction writers are hacks who write the same garbage over and over again
    >muh young chosen one
    >muh surprise family members
    boring

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I've been saying this about anime for a decade

  85. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Luke looks up into the sky of Tatooine resolving to find and save his dad, Darth Vader
    >"Father! The sleeper has awakened!", he yells.
    Lucas, you utter hack!

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