>Freeza should have been killed by Vegeta, whom he enslaved all his life.

>Freeza should have been killed by Vegeta, whom he enslaved all his life. It made sense that the man who suffered the most under Freeza was the one to get revenge instead of Goku who never met Freeza before his fight with him.
>Cell should have been killed by Goku, as the Red Ribbon Army's demise was entirely due to Goku's rampage and Gero's seethe was the reason the androids were built in the first place.
>Buu should have been killed by Gohan, to show that he was ready to take over the mantle of "Earth's protector" from Goku who was well into his 40s during Buu's saga (as well as dead, but death in DB means nothing).

Amazing how for such a great storyteller Toriyaki failed to tie loose ends.

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He made it up as he went.
    He built the sandbox but we have to make our own castles.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We all know.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody cares about vegeta

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why would someone named Bageeta try to kill a freezer? It’s an inanimate object.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bageera is a cat you moron

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      wait till you find out they tried to kill his brother Cooler too 🙁

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Damn, that’s cold

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    furiza should have been a girl and go on a date with me

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      All terrible, you will never have a fraction of Toriyama's talent.

      Also this.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >and then they think they're all gonna die because the bad guy started to glow but then the dragon balls bring everyone back and then the good guy he starts to get really mad and he glows more so then he wins even though it was hopeless

        Talent.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yup. It'd sell worldwide, unlike your work.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    freeza
    >cool final boss for the ss reveal
    cell
    >cool idea of mixing all the hero powers for evil
    buu
    >cool idea of mixing all the hero powers for evil
    >wait a minute

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the focus of Buu's power wasn't about stealing heroes' powers
      he was just strong and can regenerate no matter if he was blown to pieces

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        *sorry i meant cell

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Cell can't regenerate if he was blown to pieces
          all those pieces can't form into one

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          if his head was blown he can't regenerate

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous
            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Toriyama is a moron
              Cell's regeneration is stolen from Piccolo's DNA, which means he can't regenerate without his head

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Toriyama
                As usual, the blame should be put on Toei.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                IT Kamehameha didn't happen in the manga?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, it happened.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                that pic related was when Toriyama came up with the asspull, yes

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >hurry a gurr durrr
                Cell was Piccolo AND Freiza.
                If you add Piccolos regenerative abilities (which Frieza didn't have), which Freiza's durability (which Piccolo didn't have), who knows whats possible. I mean Frieza was on Namek with half a fricking body and the explosion just fricked his face a little.
                Cell also is a bioengineering creature.

                Stop pretending like things are cut and dried, suspension if disbelief can allow for things like this if done properly

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Cell was Piccolo AND Freiza.
                >If you add Piccolos regenerative abilities (which Frieza didn't have), which Freiza's durability (which Piccolo didn't have), who knows whats possible. I mean Frieza was on Namek with half a fricking body and the explosion just fricked his face a little.
                >Cell also is a bioengineering creature.
                >Stop pretending like things are cut and dried, suspension if disbelief can allow for things like this if done properly

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If it's any consolation, freeza was technically killed by the son of Vegeta. Kinda poetic that the new prince of saiyans (since Vegeta should technically be the king) avenges his people who he never even got to meet.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wrong board
    Your gay shit goes there, not here.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      *Crying laughing emoji* bro thinks he's the internet police

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I tried with Gohan, but it didn't work out, so I reverted to Goku
    What did Late Toriyama mean by this? What "not working" mean?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It means Gohan fricking sucks. He's a very passive character, he has no drive, Toriyama isn't interested in writing about "scholar" shit, you can't write a story with Gohan where he does anything but react to some new villain appearing.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >He's a very passive character, he has no drive
        That's entirely Toriyama's fault though.
        He goes from being a little baby in way over his head to the kud that beats Cell (after his father groomed him into it) to "nothing I guess lol" where he could easily have been much more like the future Gohan that mentors Trunks. He would be a lot more like Piccolo than Goku though.

        what proactive thing does Goku even do in Z? literally every major plot is just Z fighters reacting to new threats.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I honestly have no idea why people think Gohan is the new DBZ's main character
      the only actual DBZ's new generation is that black kid named Uub

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The evil essence of Majin Buu resurrects as a POC
        What did Teriyaki mean by this?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Uub is the strongest character in DBZ

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gohan never drew a dime

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It means Gohan fricking sucks. He's a very passive character, he has no drive, Toriyama isn't interested in writing about "scholar" shit, you can't write a story with Gohan where he does anything but react to some new villain appearing.

      Goku's journey from "boy to man" was more fleshed out and he was in the spotlight since chapter 1..Gohan gets introduced 200 chapters in and has to compete for attention with the pre-existing MCs

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I really like dragon ball, but japs are gonna japs.
    So of course Goku will fix everything every time, he is the protagonist.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Freeza should have been killed by vegeta

    No.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Its Frieza you fricking zoomer and Vegeta beating him would have made Goku completely irrelevant to the Namek saga and lessened the significance of the first SSJ transformation.

    Goku beating Cell would have done nothing for his character, and the Gohan plot had been going too long at that point, especially with what we knew of future Gohan. Future Trunks should have been the give away that the focus of the Cell Saga was building a better future, no one but Gohan could have cemented that fact.
    Piccolo passing on the torch to Dende and Vegeta realising he cares about Trunks were side stories to Gohan surpassing Goku.

    Buu was a primordial evil and the end battle took place in other world, the home of the kais were Goku has been training since the end of the Cell Saga, Goku defeating him with a spirit bomb with the help of the universe fits thematically and the show still makes it clear that Gohan is stronger than Goku, so it doesn't upset his arc but does add to Gokus character and completes Vegetas arc, something that wouldn't have happened if Gohan had beat Buu.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I agree about Vegetta

    Gohan killing cell was kino as frick tho

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >and then OP gets married and lives happily ever after
    homosexual

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Has Vegeta ever killed someone important?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No. He's a jobber. He's primarily there as a measuring stick for the big bad to humiliate so Goku or Gohan can deliver the final blow. Or He's just there for a fusion.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >be second strongest guy in the universe after Goku
        >still about as relevant as Krillin or Yamcha
        How has Vegeta not killed himself by now?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What's even sadder is a lot of the time he's not even second. He many points where he is weaker than gohan. He is far weaker than gohan in the cell saga and he is far weaker than ultimate gohan in the buu saga. I hate bringing up super because it's gay but gohan is actually the #1 right now.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Goku was weaker than Gohan too at that point, but Vegeta overtakes again immediately after the Cell Saga

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It was not immediately it took vegeta 7 years of nonstop training to reach a level of ssj2 that was of a higher caliber than kid gohan had against cell. Then within a week of goku returning gohan was already #1 again in that arc since ultimate gohan was a stronger form than ssj3

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >being weaker than Gohan
            >after the Cell saga
            Jesus Christ. Why do people even like Vegeta? He's like the Kaiba of the DBZ universe, except his autism is weak and he's an even bigger shitter.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Because he never gives up.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >being weaker than Gohan
              >after the Cell saga
              just like Goku

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's his son. So it's not an own. Vegeta is turd kek. Beneath his rival and his rival's son.... what a kek'd life. Not to mention gohan saved his life against cell and killed cell right after with a broken arm and leg he got from saving his ass.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Jobhan jobbed to Future Cell
                >Future Trunks (Vegeta's son) surpassed him

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Holy cope. Manlet fanboys really cope this hard?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >no argument
                Jobhan literally got killed by Cell in the future
                cope all you want

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Breh. That entire timeline jobbed. It's kek'd I think what's more kek'd is the fact gohan has actually killed a main villain and jobbletgeta never did in any timeliness kek.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                cool, but Future Trunks surpassed Future Jobhan

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >He is far weaker than gohan in the cell saga
            nope, Gohan was only strong because Toriyama couldn't found a way to kill Cell
            so he invented asspull "le strong Gohan because he le angry" at the last moment
            >he is far weaker than ultimate gohan in the buu saga
            because of the asspull Toriyama introduced, he had to make Gohan even stronger in Buu saga
            in Super, Vegeta could beat the shit out of Jobhan easily

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          about as relevant as Krillin or Yamcha
          lol no. It's insane how much humangays hate Vegeta.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Goku's strength has always been equal to Vegeta
        they're meant to be shounen rival

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Vegeta spends the entirity of Z post-Namek playing catchup and seething over Goku, who's completely over him already.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You're better than me kakarot you are the best
            >kneels

            ?si=88BgpXlCLvwiydVy

            Holy cope. Manlet fanboys really cope this hard?

            >Freeza should have been killed by vegeta

            No.

            The score is 3-0. Bejita is 3-0 vs Goku. As in Bejita won thrice. Bejita beat Goku three times. Bejita=3 wins, Goku=0 wins. Bejita won 3 times. Bejita won thrice. Bejita beat Goku once and then once more, and then again for a total of three times. Goku has never beaten or won against Bejita. Bejita beat and won against Goku thrice. Three times. Not just once but thrice that Bejita won. Goku has 0 (zero) wins against Bejita, while Bejita has 3 (three) wins against Goku. Is there anything about this that is unclear?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Desperate. If he is such a big winner why is he always seething and having mental breakdowns over gokus power?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >always

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >super
                Kek. No wonder you're dense. Nothing has mattered since Z.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >it doesn't count because...IT JUST DOESN'T OK???
                kek imagine being you

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Whatever you say, pedrofanfic reader.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah white with a brain and not reading fanfiction for Mexicans like you

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The only white in you is the buckets of semen you swallow everyday to cope with the fact that official canon is contradicting your headcanon, pablo.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The only white in you is the buckets of semen you swallow everyday to cope with the fact that official canon is contradicting your headcanon, pablo.

                Go back.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because Bejita is relentlessly self-improving, to the point of torturing himself. Truly, Bejita-sama's relentless drive is an inspiration to us all.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He doesn't care about you if you're weak and there aren't that many people strong enough for him to bother with, so apart from Nappa and Friezas top guys like Zarbon no not really.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >be Jobku
      >didn't kill Frieza
      >didn't kill Cell
      >only killed Buu because Vegeta helped him create Spirit Bomb

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah I realized all these things when I was 12/13 years old watching the show too. That's the thing about Japanese IP for me, they do a really good job of creating an interesting or unique universe and filling it with good lore Saiyans/Frieza stuff is top tier, but then they butcher it with ultimately bad choices and plot and characters get too wacky. Everything they do is like this: Metal Gear Solid is just like this

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Unfortunately it boils down to being a product for most of those series, and it's not that easy to keep the ball rolling for hundreds of weekly chapters. Majority of manga fall apart/end before 100 chapters, some go the extra mile and make it to near 200 chapters before ending, but then there's the big boys who stretch their series even further

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >You're better than me kakarot you are the best
    >kneels

    ?si=88BgpXlCLvwiydVy

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >only weaker than Jobku because of the asspull called SSJ3

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >dub fanfic

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Frick. Look at him. On his knees in awe looking up at superior beings having a reality shattering battle that is beyond his comprehension and strength. No wonder he admits defeat to the hero goku in both strength and spirit.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >why can't every story end with a neatly tied bow and with poetic justice AND a happy family torch passing
    you don't know how to write a good story

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OP in turbohomosexual mode complaining about a dead author who basically invented modern anime. Frick off.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    KEKgeta doesn't deserve anything. You should be licking Toriyama's boots for letting him live past Namek.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >KEKgeta doesn't deserve anything. You should be licking Toriyama's boots for letting him live past Namek.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >weaker than both gohan and goku
    >shorter than them too
    Yeah it never even began for this moron

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A lot of complaints over Dragon Ball is just from people self inserting.
    Vegeta is hated because people self insert as Goku and think Vegeta is personally attacking them.
    Buu is hated because people self insert as Gohan, enough said.
    So on and so forth. Dragon Ball is not perfect, but whenever you see some nonsense complaint like Toriyama is le bad for sidelining the humans, you just know it's some self insert.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You’re only right about Gohan defeating Buu

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    than both gohan and goku
    than them too
    >Yeah it never even began for this moron

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I didnt even read your gay ass post. I was too busy staring at these 3 muscular megachads.

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is Cell Max just Cell resurrected? Is is it a whole new Cell?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    tfw no tracksuit gf

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Toriyaki
    >Great story teller

    I love DB/DBZ but no.... no.

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Vageta should have beat all three of them because he's my favorite, simple as.

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hmm, don't you sometimes stop to think why? Why you're a nobody who will never amount to anything, and Toriyama became rich before turning 30?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Damn, Bulma looks like THAT?

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